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Hi! Don't be fooled, a public hospital in Argentina may not be as aesthetically beautiful to look at, and you probably would have had to wait a little longer, but the attention and professionalism would have been exactly the same. Welcome to Argentina!
it would have been more than a little, also, as a foreigner in the country, good thing they decided to go to a private hospital and pay for a service, instead of taking avandtage of the public system, not for the money alone, but taking time away from local pacients that cant afford private attention.
@@andressousa9006 Ocurre que hay una gran diferencia de "criterios" la Salud en USA o el Helathcare, que es un sistema estrictamente Comercial (US National Library of Medicine) así, por ejemplo el costo promedio para dar a luz es de aprox. 18.000 dolares, esta claro que estoy hablando de " dar a luz" no? hago hincapié porque "dar a luz" es uno de los procesos naturales mas comunes de la Vida. En cambio acá la Salud es un Derecho consagrado en la Constitución Nacional. Yo creo que hay derechos mínimos de los cuales está bien que Estado se haga cargo y es una cuestión mínima de Solidaridad, aún cuando quien lo utilice tenga los medios para recurrir al Sistema Privado. Pero no me interesa debatir, solo creo que esto aporta a entender porque te resulta "chocante" o "sorprendente" los costos.
@@andressousa9006 you didn't "take advantage", we pay for everyone who wants to use it because is in our Constitutional motto...well, some people understand this and some don't. 50% + percent of it to be more precise...
The best specialists are actually in public hospitals. In private hospitals, you don’t necessarily get better care, but you get more comfort: less waiting time, a room to yourself, and nicer amenities, etc. However, the medical care itself is the same. As a matter of fact, many times you’re directed to public hospitals for high-complexity treatments, especially for children, or surgeries. My father was redirected from our private hospital to a public one to get the best neurosurgeon for his case.
Hay mu has quejas de muchas partes del país en que la atención pública es tardar y varias veces de poca calidad, si es un resfriado o cosas simples okey pero cosas más serias mejor uno privado.
@@holms2849justamente porque los públicos son gratuitos y atienden a todos (sean de Argentina o extranjeros de manera gratuita!). Se termina colapsando, desabasteciendo y eso deteriora la calidad y el tiempo en el que se puede atender a los pacientes. Mismo en las unidades sanitarias, los turnos se acaban rápido (la mayoría son para personas de otros países).
Muy cierto,todos hacen su carrera y ganan experiencia en hospitales públicos,y eso lo sabemos todos.La mayoría trabaja x la mañana en hosp.públicos,unos luego atienden sus consultorios y otros van a clínicas privadas.PERO TODOS PASAN POR LOS HOSP. PUBLICOS!
We have some important things that actually work. People who never were abroad think Argentina is the worst in every aspect, but that is not true, and it's a good thing people like you remind us about those things. Thanks!
Miguel, as an Argentinian that has lived more thant 20 years abroad, and in more than one place, I can tell you that our country, even with all the problems it has, is one of the best places to live in the World... Saludos!
Hello, it is nice to know that you have chosen my country to live. As for hospitals in Buenos Aires, the Garrahan Pediatric Hospital is first class and public. In case of an extreme emergency it has to be your first option, I hope this comment helps you.
El Garrahan es un hospital de alta complejidad, atienden casos de enfermedades muy graves y extremas y tambien enfermedades altamente contagiosas , el hospital Gutierrez y casa cuna ( pedro erizalde) son también hospitales de niños.
@Economic_Front hi!, an usual mistake from the use of G Translator ...better use something like "te agradezco"[singular] or " te lo agradecemos"[plural] rather than "Te apreciamos" We appreciate this! > ¡Apreciamos esto! it's wrong or not good for spanish speakers. Welcome to Argentina, btw Argentina is not only Buenos Aires city, if you can try to travel, explore and know the interior of the country
Well, all parents in Argentina need to know Garrahan Hospital. It is one of the best children's hospitals in the world. Treats rare cases in children, it is public and free.
“Hablando a tu corazón” from Charly García sounding in the background while you walk down the street in Buenos Aires, nothing more Argentinian than this moment right here 😂
Uno de los mejores hospitales privados del país , es el Hospital universitario Austral.En el suburbio de Pilar.Atencion y médicos excelentes.Un hermano.mio fue operado allí. Para cardiología sin duda el Sanatorio Favaloro.
@@SlashsBluesBall Si estamos hablando del tema que está sonando al final del video (5:40), es "Tu amor". Conozco bien los dos temas. Edit: me hiciste volver a ver el video, es verdad, durante la primera parte están pasando "Hablando a tu corazón". Están los dos temas.
I am a doctor in Argentina and as such I can say something about the video, and that is that with some exceptions, the fees of doctors (even specialists) are just below the average income of the general population. For example, last week a surgeon colleague told me that for a pancreatectomy the module (amount that his patient's health insurance pays for the procedure) was around 500,000 pesos (about 350 dollars). This amount had to be distributed between the surgeon himself, the anesthetist, the instrumenters, the material, etc. In the end, the surgeon had an income of 80,000 pesos (a little more than 50 dollars) for his fees. This for a pancreatectomy... in the USA for $50 a surgeon doesn't even touch the patient's abdomen
I really appreciate your experienced response and information. This is a complex topic and I only know what goes on from the customer side. Also, In the USA we are scammed and taken advantage of by predatory insurance companies and centralized hospital networks.
Basically doctors and specialists are so underpaid as the rest of the people (of this country) who cannot access to private attention, as said for example, if you have kids, waiting with them for 8 hours (or more) to have attention in public hospital is not something pleasant also as an adult that need to go work is more complicated. So ok, the tourist find "cheap" to have attention here but this is completely unfair for those who studied for years and maybe had masters and such and work for more than 8 hours/ day and still cannot afford having dinner out with their family, or have nice vacations because they're so underpaid. Now the question is, are the doctors well paid on the US? because if they pay 1000usd for attention and they give their best and they are also well paid I see some justice there.
Argentinian here, I live in New Zealand, but every time I visit my family in Arg. all of us, husband, my 2 sons and myself we visit a dentist there because it’s a lot cheaper, and much better service and quality, my sons needed new teeth retainers, in Arg, was us$20 including the visit, and NZ us$100 only the retainer, the visit it’s around us$80. My dad had eye surgery for cataracts for both eyes for the same price that my father in law in NZ did only for one eye, without multi focal lenses, my dad doesn’t need reading or progressive glasses anymore. Medical tech in arg, it’s not behind, you get better care. I don’t know how they do things in USA, but before a surgery in arg, you have to do blood test, check your heart, etc. so there are not surprises during surgery, but it shocks me here that you go to surgery without tests, you just fill some papers and they ask if you have any medical conditions, if you don’t know, I guess it’s a risk. By the way, my husband and kids are moving to arg. next year. We can have better life there than NZ. it’s to expensive to leave here, and we get better health care too, my husband loves Argentina, we all do. Good luck to you and enjoy your stay. There are so many beautiful places to visit. Patagonia, Iguazú falls, and much, much more.
@@basiliusnaaninga7512 Igual si pasara un accidente el SAME lo llevaría a un hospital público... la otra opcion era haberse atendido y donar a la cooperadora los 30 dólares y ayudar al hospital. He visto extranjeros en el Hospital Argerich dejar U$S 100 claro para ellos por lo que cuenta este señor es el 10% de lo que le cuesta una consulta en su país y para la cooperadora cien dólares es un montón. Saludos
Éxitos. Te deseo la mayor de las suertes. Que la gente buena y trabajadora como vos venga acá y triunfe, será una de las bases para que el futuro de Argentina sea prospero y bello. Bienvenido a Argentina. Éxitos y bendiciones a tu familia.
0:48 Charly García in the background, he's probably the biggest legend of Argentine Rock music! Once you start diving into all the national music stars you might be very surprised.
Your feedback is good, I am happy that you enjoy Argentina but what for you was cheap for an average Argentine is not. The minimum wage in Argentina is around 250 dollars (and that changes all the time because we have a lot of inflation). So your visit to the hospital is equivalent to 12% of the minimum wage. The prices are low because they adjust to the purchasing power of an Argentine and also because they are subsidized by the state and the medical insurance of Argentines. You are not to blame for this situation but in my opinion tourists should have a mandatory medical insurance (as requested by most European countries, in the United Kingdom and the US) that covers their expenses in case they have an accident with costs that are without state subsidy or other money that comes from citizens. This would be fairer and would prevent people from coming to the country to get free treatments and would alleviate the tax burden for those of us who have to live here.
A ver...si vos dependes de un salario mínimo es porque nunca quisiste a ser algo mas...sos de la generación que siempre viviste de la esclavitud del Estado...o sea...los que viven del salario mínimo es porque nunca trabajaron en relación de dependencia ni trataron de mejorar su situación...creo que si medianamente lista sabrás a qué me refiero...sl2.
El Garrahan es lo mejor para los niños. Inclusive tiene lugares para que se queden los padres que vienen de otras provincias que no pueden pagar alojamiento. Totalmente gratuito y de alta complejidad para los niños. Es increíble el trato de todo su personal.
A mi me operaron en febrero de 1988 por una fisura de cadera cuando tenía 13 años. Solo tuvimos que comprar los clavos porque tardaba mucho el trámite para obtenerlos “gratis “, recién se inauguraba el Garrahan. Estoy tan agradecida por la atención de todos❤. Me salvaron de una renguera permanente.❤❤❤. Hoy tengo 49 años.
Public hospitals are as good or better at some thing than private ones. My brother was redirected to the children's public hospital after 2 failed surgeries to fix his kidney malformation as a child. The top pediatric nephrologist in the country took his case and fixed the problem in one go.
Regarding health, I`m not sure in Argentina, but in Uruguay (next door country) apart from health insurance companies, you have also "mutualistas" and they are hospitals with a membership monthly fee (like if it was a club or a gym). This is a good system because they get to know their clients, and they keep track of them. It is also in their interest to do preventive care, since they will spend less money. They will do cancer check ups, for example, so they can find it at early stages and remove it by surgery instead of expending a tons of money in a patient doing quimio during years. With the insurance system, hospitals just make more money the more sick you are.
@@luxinterior5743 Vos adorás al mayor monopolio de todos, el monopolio de la violencia llamado Estado. Si trabajás no te vas a morir de hambre, zurdito.
Here 300 dollars is a lot. That's why unless you have an "obra social" or "prepaga" in Argentina, nobody uses private hospitals. In ANY hospital, private or otherwise, they should treat you like a patient, NOT a costumer.
Thanks for the information. And I agree, I misspoke. I was trying to explain how they treat you like an inconvenience in the USA. And that the Argentina experience was so much better!
@@Economic_Front I prefer to be treated like a costumer haha also, if you need drugs from the pharmacy many times you can get them without prescription you just have to try going to different pharmacies
@@darkglobe420 thats why public hospitals exist in Argentina and Europe, Im talking about private hospitals, last year I paid my own surgery for hernia, around 400 dollars if I remember correctly.. not sure but around that amount,.
How good that you value and respect my Beloved Country! Success and may God bless you in everything you want to do in our country. Fraternal hugs from Tucumán. (New subscriber)
Freedom in Argentina has been around since 1984. Some people think that it is something recent. NOT TRUE!! DON'T LET THEM KID YOU!! Restrictions n freedom and repression are back!!
Freedom in Argentina has been around since 1984. Some people think that it is something recent. NOT TRUE!! DON'T LET THEM KID YOU!! Restrictions n freedom and repression are back!!
Lots of comments about the public hospitals in Argentina here, but I haven’t seen anyone mentioning that one problem the last few years is that LOT of people from other south American countries (literally MILLIONS) are freeriding and that is putting a strain on the system, especial people from Bolivia, Paraguay and Peru. One example is AIDS patients that only come to Argentina for "free" (taxpayer funded) service that they world never get in their home country. That is one reason many chose private hospitals, the service may be the same, actual often better in public hospitals, but it can be overcrowded by foreigners. (I had several operations here and can attest to getting faster and better treatment than I would have in my native socialist utopia in Scandinavia).
Es cierto lo que dices. Algunos hospitales públicos, sobre todo en provincias fronterizas, están empezando a cobrar atenciones a los extranjeros. Hay mucho abuso.
Come on guys... the problem is not (and never was) the immigrants. Being for a poor or a rich country. The problem is the low budget, the parasitic companies (like SwissMedical, owners of AméricaTV). If the patient (patient, not customer) is like the host says as a "cow milk", welcome... at the moment it begins to be deficit... to the public health system. They even have a term "tornillo" (screw) because it is worse than a "clavo". Almost all major entrepreneurs in Argentina support whoever promises to reduce public spending. In lawful and ethical ways... or in lawful ways... or they support. They are fundamentalists, fanatics of that. But make no mistake, they are reasonable and intelligent people. The subsidies they receive, the multiple aids they get... that, on the contrary, should be increased. And of course, the infrastructure they need is paid for by the state and must be ideal. Many, the majority of the big ones, perceive themselves as libertarians, but they live off the state’s teat. ("viven the la teta (teat, breast) de Fulano" is the argentinean way of saying "John Doe is the cow milk of them... I love how similar and different the expression are!) My mother (82 years old) had a surgery... not covered by the "insurance" (la prepaga, SwissMedical)... she pays 600 dollars a month (it a lot of money here, specially for a retiree). She had to undergo surgery covered by the social health insurance. Surgery, hospitalization, pathological tests, food, and the kindness of a lovely nurse... zero pesos. A social health insurance is a society where workers of a specific industry, such as transportation, metallurgy, etc. (not necessarily, but that’s how it started), pay a monthly fee for medical coverage in institutions that have an agreement with it (or that are directly owned by the social health insurance). The difference (positive according to my way of thinking, though it might not be according to yours) is that if you are in a higher position and earn more, you pay more. If you are not and earn less, you pay less. They are not necessarily limited to that. They also often have hotels (open to everyone, very affordable for members... But really ridiculously affordable. I will always remember the magnificent croissants at the Campsic hotel in Cosquín. But speaking of immigrants. First: They are people, if they are ill, they need treatment. I do not care if they have money, come from a poor country or from Sweden. White skin, brown skin, purple with green dots skin... I don't care. Second: France. Third: They are already paying taxes. You can argue that some came from countries.... ok. Donations are always accepted, but to create a bureaucratic structure for this... could be more loosing than winning. And fills with mud, something that should be (it is not) spotlessly clean. My way of thinking is veeeeery different from yours. I see the world in an entirely different way. But you are not only welcome, I am happy you are here. The Constitution of Argentine begins with a paragraph known as "the Preamble," which outlines the context, foundations, and objectives of the supreme law. Its current text is as follows: "We, the representatives of the people of the Argentine Nation, assembled in General Constituent Congress by the will and election of the provinces that comprise it, in fulfillment of pre-existing pacts, with the purpose of constituting national unity, ensuring justice, consolidating internal peace, providing for common defense, promoting general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty for ourselves, our posterity, and all men in the world who wish to inhabit Argentine soil: invoking the protection of God, source of all reason and justice: do ordain, decree, and establish this Constitution for the Argentine Nation." The constitution was inspired by Alberdi. A man that Milei worships (anyway, I respect Alberdi a lot). I am sure you notice how similar to the beginning of the US constitution, but ours makes explicit one point... "and all men in the world who wish to inhabit Argentine soil".
As an Argentinian I don't like Hospitals being free for foreigners. We're a poor country and we can't really afford to treat foreigners for free. As long as you pay for it be my guest. Welcome brother!
@@AlejoDarioni stop with this nonsense, foreigners that use the healthcare system DO NOT compensate via the couple hundred dollars MAX they would be "spending" in taxes. If you have to travel thousands of kilometers just to exploit the good will of a country that has "free" (no such thing) healthcare then you deserved to be charged.
@@AlejoDarioni no he is not, stop spreading this blatant lie. It's more than likely that 0 of the foreigners dollars you claim is being used to pay for the service actually end up in the hands of the health professionals.
Vivi un año en Europa y no hay como la atención medica Argentina y su sistema sanitario publico y privado!! Lo mejor y la cobertura para medicamentos costosos es total!!🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
You should have tried a Public Hospital... I worked as an MD at a Public Hospital over 40 years and gosh I am PROUD!!! Health care is al least as good as in a private clinic OR STILL FAR BETTER!!! And you wouldnt have paid anything at all, not even a nickel!!!
We are paying our public health through our taxes, that still are one of the highest in the worlds. The Argentine State, the State in general does not give anything for free, all is given by us, the citizens of good will (not the leftists) through our taxes.
A friend from Barcelona had an emergency because he's a diabetic. The treatment and cost of the room for one week was free. He was treated at the Zubizarreta Hospital in Buenos Aires last August
00:47 Oooohhhh Dame tu amor a mí! Le estoy hablando hablando hablando a tuu coorazón! Despite this channel was thought to help the new comer and those who want to come, you're goint to have a lot of argentines suscribers when they notice you. We love the people who love our country and is always interesting and fun to know how they see us and their experiences here. I hope you can help many of future expats/new argentinian citizens (and not just watched by argentines haha, although everybody can see by the comments that we receive you gladly and warmly, perhaps that could be a topic for a future video). My best wishes for you and your family.
En un hospital público, la calidad de la atención hubiera sido exactamente igual. Quizas el edificio no sea moderno, pero los médicos en Argentina son muy profesionales y la atención es muy buena.
I'm an Argentine American Cabify (like Uber) driver in Buenos Aires, I know there is something called Medical Tourism where Americans and European people travel to Buenos Aires to get procedures done (hair transplant, teeth, miscellaneous other surgeries) and travel around Argentina a little enjoying the savings.. =)
Thanks for sharing that information! I didn’t realize this. But I have been seeing a lot of people with bandages from procedures. Maybe this is what I’ve been seeing.
@@Economic_Frontit’s really not that common. It’s usually Argentinians living abroad that will come back, travel a bit, visit their families and have some procedure done (usually odontology, or cosmetic surgery)
@@Economic_Front the full combo includes bringing some tech gadgets from your country of origin to sell here at great profit (they're stupid expensive here) to cover part of the fare, stay and whatnot
4:40 i know you're talking about private hospitals prices but birth and g section is completely free in public hospitals here, other stuff like for example abortion is free too(since 2020 a law passed), contraceptive treatments like vasectomy or tubal ligation are free also in public hospitals.
New subscriber, want to follow your experience living in Argentina. I'm from the US, being to Argentina a couple of times and I love the country, the people, the food, and the culture.
I’m so glad you’ve experienced it! It’s so insanely friendly here in comparison. Very happy to have you subscribing. If you ever have questions please message or ask me on X. I’d love to help more immigration.
Medical care here really is something else! It’s unfair how underpaid the profession is (on average) though. New subscriber, welcome to Argentina and have a nice stay! 🫶🏼🇦🇷
$30 lol. That’s amazing. We’re getting robbed left and right here in the US. No reason we should be paying hundreds or thousands of dollars a month in insurance to get treated like crap by the healthcare here. It’s horrible.
At a private hospital, costs can be considerably higher, reaching $60,000 pesos or more for a natural birth and more than $100,000 pesos for a cesarean section since they offer more exclusive services and additional amenities.
Salud pública y GRATUITA.... Si no pagas seguro de viaje y te pasa algo acá quédate tranquilo que los vamos a atender igual, tengas o no tenga dinero. Otros países cruzás la puerta con las tripas en la mano y te preguntan si vas a pagar, sí decís que no, te podés ir muriendo tranquilo en la vereda.... Orgullo de ser Argentina!!!
Happy 4th July !! interesting that Argentina has it´s independence on 9 of july. America as a Continent shares a lot of same history, colonization and then independence from Europe, massive immigration and love of freedom were similarities back then. Nice video !
Welcome to Argentina My friend! Beautiful to see how foreigners value my country 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷 New follower here. I saw you in "Astro recargado" TH-cam profile
If you're going to live here, you are going to benefit more to have a "prepaga" which is an insurance you just pay monthly like cable, they dont add aditional fees if you visit an hospital like in the us. And that includes everything you need to give birth and your future child care. You just pay a monthly fee x family member according to your plan. It only gets adjusted to inflation
I am very glad that you made this video, it is very informative. I have seen comments on videos from other American professionals that degrade the professionalism of other countries just because they are not from a "first world"... making excuses like "they don't speak the same language, it could be a scam or there is no follow-up afterwards" which seems very hypocritical to me, since scams happen in any country, it is racism and enormous selfishness. Doctors from countries like Argentina study for many years, have a lot of experience and are even more professional than a doctor who only seeks his own benefit, charging a lot for something as simple as an x-ray in USA. Thank you so much for this and greetins from Argentina 💕
No no no, a private hospital is the same as a public hospital. In fact, all the best averages for the entrance exam for residencies are in public hospitals, all the best medical professionals worked in a public hospital.
We had the same exact experience while we were there visiting family about 15 years ago. our son had a terrible fever extremely sick we got in saw a doctor medication some lab tests as well as a thermometer to take his temperature all for less than $30 and we were in and out within an hour to an hour and a half.
It can be said that Argentina is slowly recovering what made it great before, what it once represented in the world. I hope that your life here is the best possible and that your family can be happy in this beautiful country!
El servicio médico y educativo en la Argentina es “world class”!! Ni un país del “1er mundo” como USA pueda llegarle al talón .. pero bueno, ese costo lo pagamos entre todos, y el beneficio lo gozan hasta los extranjeros 🤷🏽♀️
@@pablorey9203 Los médicos del hospital que hagan lo que quieran con el dinero que ganan libremente. Ellos cobran un sueldo que viene de nuestros impuestos. En fin, el hospital público sirve para que nosotros le paguemos a los kirchos y a los zurdos por la medicina con nuestro esfuerzo capitalista.
It's great to hear that you had a positive experience with the healthcare system here in Argentina. The first-rate care you received in the private hospital can be attributed to the high-quality free education provided by institutions like the University of Buenos Aires (UBA). The UBA educates many of our doctors and healthcare professionals, for "free" through state-funded programs, ensuring that everyone has access to top-tier medical training. Additionally, the reduced cost of your medical attention is a result of the socialist policies implemented over the past 100 years. These policies have aimed to regulate and subsidize healthcare, making it more affordable and accessible to everyone, regardless of their economic status. This is a testament to the values of solidarity and social welfare that have been at the core of our society. However, if the inhumane policies of the conservative (not libertarian!) Milei succeed, public health services will become much more expensive, and our country will start to follow the path of the USA. This could lead to a system where only those with significant financial resources can afford quality healthcare, undermining the inclusive and equitable principles we've built over the years. Welcome to Argentina, and I hope you continue to enjoy and appreciate the unique blend of our social and cultural heritage!
@@Economic_Front You are welcome. It's great to hear that you had a positive experience with the healthcare system here in Argentina. What you and your family are enjoying now in Argentina was built through a state-regulated capitalism, which has fostered a morally sound country. This healthy blend of 19th-century liberal traditions and a strong work culture institutionalized by Peronism incorporates the anarchist and socialist leftist traditions from Europe. It's this unique combination that has shaped our nation's moral and social fabric.
El hospital público habria estado probablemente menos prolijo, estéticamente menos bello y hubiera esperado un poco mas, pero habrías obtenido exactamente la misma atención y gratuitamente.
@@basiliusnaaninga7512 Si el turista tiene seguro médico, yo creo que el hospital publico les cobra la atención, como hace cuando tenés obra social. Y bueno si no tiene nada que se lleve una buena imagen ese gasto es una inversión para que hable bien del país. Como al pobre estadounidense que perdió la pierna en un robo y acá le salvaron la vida. Dijo que igual volvería porque se sintió cuidado no todo es $$$$ en la vida. Es importante pero no lo es todo. Nunca fuimos una sociedad interesada y ojala no nos transformemos en eso es horrible
@@Economic_Front as a doctor myself,i don't agree that the "Britts" Hospital is the Best in Rosario,80% at least are very good,patients usually select a private hospital for which Docs work there (or a team of Docs),some are better for ab surgery,others have the best Internists,or others the best equipment like TC scans or Lab. Justo ask for options. Have a nice day 👋👋👋
If you have a serious accident, most likely you will be taken to a public hospital and I can assure you that the doctors will do everything they can to save you. Once you are stabilized, they can transfer you wherever you or your family ask, because depending on the specialty you need, it is very likely that there will not be beds.
ok, I'm hooked on your channel!!! I’m Argentinian living in the USA and love your views on different aspects. They are different and well treated. Nice to hear more from your adventures.
Public health system is horrible. We have to go before 6 a.m to see if we have luck to get an appointment with a doctor, and if you didn't get one, you have to wait till next month and repeat the process. It's impossible, they're full of immigrants who treat you bad for being argentinian. It's just all horrible. I hope things change.
Greetings from Peru. Saw your video announcing moving to Argentina on El Clarín a news channel on IG. Great choice you guys made. Argentina is showing the world how things actually have to be made. How the job has to be done. Wish you guys the best. New follower here🙋🏻♂️
welcome to Argentina bro! i will follow your channel now and watch your videos as i can, i am from Argentina too, i live in Bahia Blanca which is part of Buenos Aires! it makes me happy you are having a nice experience! apologies for any mispelling as well, i taught english myself haha
Back in 2018 I went to the US with my family for an exchange program. We had to take our kid to a hospital in Missouri for the same reason as you guys, they charged us 250 dollars for an x-ray!. In 2020 our daughter was born here in Argentina, in a public hospital. We didn't pay a single cent.
Buenos Aires city hospitals are great bro, so glad that people like you choose my country to live. Wish you the best, and I would love to be your friend
I'd like to say our Health Care System is not perfect at all. Indeed it has many flaws and not everyone is happy, including patients and health staff for several good reasons. However, I think we are still very lucky and I can get you because I know the problem you have in US with this matter. You must pay a fortune if in need of medical care and treatment and many Americans just can't. I watched Michael Moore's film, Sicko some years ago. I remember what happened with Obama Care. It's not a model to imitate. Anyway... Don't expect most people here to understand it because the grass is always greener in the US. They'll assume that absolutely everything must be better since it's part of the first world while at the same time they'll tell you without a blink that Argentina is the best country in the world and they may truly think so! These are some of the peculiar mysteries of the Argie nature. Welcome to our dearest Argentine land. You'll never get bored.😁
Please note that Argentinians salary is not comparable to USA at all, therefore that price for the citizens there is high. iT IS TRUE THAT THERE ARE FREE HOSPITAL WHERE YOU MAY PAY BANDAGE AND MEDICINE ONLY. YES, SO FAR DOCTORS ARE EXCELLENT AND i SAY SO FAR, BECAUSE IT IS VERY NOTICEABLE THAT DOCTORS THAT WENT TO STUDY MEDICINE THERE ARE NOT APPLYING THE SAME CRITERY AS THE LOCALS. iT IS KIND OF "TITLE MATTER", THEREFOR THEIR MEDICAL SERVICE IS NOT AS GOOD AS THE NATIONALS. Bue in general there are many doctors that even visit their patients at home, not expecting a sick person travel to their clinic.
What do you mean "treat us like a customer"?? Doctors and nurses treat us as a human being not matter what. If you go to a public hospital will not make any difference,.
I was comparing to the USA experience. In the USA you’re treated like cattle. You’re also treated like an inconvenience. I’m happy to hear that! Argentine culture is incredible.
Una amiga mia que vivia en cordoba habia nacido en yankilandia pero luego sus padres argentinos volvieron asique ella estudio aca y luego de recibirse eb una univerdsidad publica volvio a los estados unidos a buscar laburo y se qyedo alla pero cuabdo venia de visita aprovechaba y se hacia examenes y controles medicos aca porque es carisimo en los estados unidos les recomiendo el documental de michael moore Sicko donde muestra la realidad de la medicina paga
A los que dicen que la guardia de un hospital público es buena, les pregunto si alguna vez se hicieron atender o fueron a la guardia del hospital Argerich o Santojanni por ejemplo
Yo fui a la guardia del hospital de clinicas San Martin y fui atendido a nivel de excelencia, vivo en el Reino Unido y la atención acá deja mucho que desear
@@ggl2947 Tuviste suerte, yo la llevé a mi mamá de 80 años con bronquitis y no la querian atender, yo creí que se moria de la tos, empecé a gritar como un loco que hasta vino la policia y recién ahí se dignaron a atenderla. Eso fue hace años, ya en el 2022 mi mamá tuvo un ACV y la trataron mal y allí falleció. Una golondrina no hace verano, yo me atendí en los hospitales públicos toda mi vida y la atención es horrible, lleno de gente, la mayoria extranjeros y te tratan muy mal y de muy mala gana
The health insurance companies are milking people here in Argentina, too! What a limited view you have of the situation. And yes, do come to Argentina with an insurance because if something more serious than a crushed finger happened to you, you would get taken to a public hospital where, unlike the USA, you would be treated for free in perhaps a less nice atmosphere, with less "fit" (!!!!) nurses, but still with great efficiency. The thing is, public resources here are unfortunately way too limited and they should be ideally destined for local people, not for tourists who decide not to buy travel insurance because it's "scam". PS: I'd much rather be treated as a person, not a customer, when in need of help.
@@Wajihavibes no, public hospitals doesnt charge people for treatments. here where i live you can get the meds (prescribed) for free from the inside farmacy in the hospital.
Mi hermano vive en Florida. Cada vez que viene a la Argentina, visita al dentista y a los médicos especialistas para hacerse estudios. Sus cirugías han sido aquí también. Creo que en EEUU además sde sobre medicar a sus pacientes, les convierten en "enfermos" consumidores de drogas, tratamientos, terapias, etc. De por vida... todo un gran negocio de los Hospitales, aseguradoras y empresas farmacéuticas...
Hola, la gente se muestra tan agradecida con tu actitud, porque lamentablemente la mayoría de los extranjeros que vienen de paises vecinos vienen a vivir de nosotros, usurpan terrenos, colapsan nuestros servicios, viven sin trabajar con planes que pagamos los argentinos que trabajamos y critican el pais. Lo mejor es tener obra social y atenderte en clinicas privadas. Antes iba por necesidad a hospitales públicos, y aunque te atienden bien, siempre esta saturado de extranjeros a los que les dan prioridad, y yo como argentina teniendo que esperar mucho para todo. Incluso siempre faltan materiales y no alcanzan, porque se gasta todo en esa gente. No debería ser gratuito para extranjeros, vivan o no en el pais, es muy injusto para el nativo
Hello, welcome to Argentina. I'm from Venezuela, have been here for 5 years. Hope you keep posting videos. And also if you need to ask any question don't hesitate... Regards
If you land in a public hospital in an emergency it would count too, they ask for your private health insurance too, but the idea in general in the country is that in an emergency the treatment is not that costly as in USA. You wouldn't get short in treatment, the problem we have is the medicine and lab material that comes from overseas, that is really expensive ( but covered in part for the insurance). The idea of the new government is to extend a payment for procedures begining at 250 dls for foreigners ( done now in certain areas of the provinces limiting other countries as an experiment, because the government cut he funding on small health centers). It would be very hard to implement in national hospitals, as the free health is coded in the laws of the land. In my opinion the quality of life of everyone depends in a big part in the low rate in medical treatments, I hope it keep this way.
Hi! Don't be fooled, a public hospital in Argentina may not be as aesthetically beautiful to look at, and you probably would have had to wait a little longer, but the attention and professionalism would have been exactly the same. Welcome to Argentina!
it would have been more than a little, also, as a foreigner in the country, good thing they decided to go to a private hospital and pay for a service, instead of taking avandtage of the public system, not for the money alone, but taking time away from local pacients that cant afford private attention.
Totally agree
@@andressousa9006 Ocurre que hay una gran diferencia de "criterios" la Salud en USA o el Helathcare, que es un sistema estrictamente Comercial (US National Library of Medicine) así, por ejemplo el costo promedio para dar a luz es de aprox. 18.000 dolares, esta claro que estoy hablando de " dar a luz" no? hago hincapié porque "dar a luz" es uno de los procesos naturales mas comunes de la Vida. En cambio acá la Salud es un Derecho consagrado en la Constitución Nacional. Yo creo que hay derechos mínimos de los cuales está bien que Estado se haga cargo y es una cuestión mínima de Solidaridad, aún cuando quien lo utilice tenga los medios para recurrir al Sistema Privado. Pero no me interesa debatir, solo creo que esto aporta a entender porque te resulta "chocante" o "sorprendente" los costos.
@@andressousa9006 you didn't "take advantage", we pay for everyone who wants to use it because is in our Constitutional motto...well, some people understand this and some don't. 50% + percent of it to be more precise...
Falso, abrazo.
The best specialists are actually in public hospitals. In private hospitals, you don’t necessarily get better care, but you get more comfort: less waiting time, a room to yourself, and nicer amenities, etc. However, the medical care itself is the same. As a matter of fact, many times you’re directed to public hospitals for high-complexity treatments, especially for children, or surgeries. My father was redirected from our private hospital to a public one to get the best neurosurgeon for his case.
Thank you for sharing!
Hay mu has quejas de muchas partes del país en que la atención pública es tardar y varias veces de poca calidad, si es un resfriado o cosas simples okey pero cosas más serias mejor uno privado.
@@holms2849 how the f would u know that if you'r not even argentinian? lol
@@holms2849justamente porque los públicos son gratuitos y atienden a todos (sean de Argentina o extranjeros de manera gratuita!). Se termina colapsando, desabasteciendo y eso deteriora la calidad y el tiempo en el que se puede atender a los pacientes.
Mismo en las unidades sanitarias, los turnos se acaban rápido (la mayoría son para personas de otros países).
Mmmm de enserio ? Eso es ya una leyenda urbana.
Los médicos en los hospitales públicos son excelentes
I believe this also!
Muy cierto,todos hacen su carrera y ganan experiencia en hospitales públicos,y eso lo sabemos todos.La mayoría trabaja x la mañana en hosp.públicos,unos luego atienden sus consultorios y otros van a clínicas privadas.PERO TODOS PASAN POR LOS HOSP. PUBLICOS!
We have some important things that actually work. People who never were abroad think Argentina is the worst in every aspect, but that is not true, and it's a good thing people like you remind us about those things. Thanks!
Yes!! I hope I can open their eyes!
Miguel, as an Argentinian that has lived more thant 20 years abroad, and in more than one place, I can tell you that our country, even with all the problems it has, is one of the best places to live in the World... Saludos!
Hello, it is nice to know that you have chosen my country to live. As for hospitals in Buenos Aires, the Garrahan Pediatric Hospital is first class and public. In case of an extreme emergency it has to be your first option, I hope this comment helps you.
Thank you for the great information! We appreciate this!
El Garrahan es un hospital de alta complejidad, atienden casos de enfermedades muy graves y extremas y tambien enfermedades altamente contagiosas , el hospital Gutierrez y casa cuna ( pedro erizalde) son también hospitales de niños.
@@maryzacheo6498 gracias por esta muy buena informacion! Te apreciamos.
Es un hospital y centro de investigacion, hasta vienen de otros paises a atenderse.@@Economic_Front
@Economic_Front hi!, an usual mistake from the use of G Translator ...better use something like "te agradezco"[singular] or " te lo agradecemos"[plural] rather than "Te apreciamos"
We appreciate this! > ¡Apreciamos esto! it's wrong or not good for spanish speakers. Welcome to Argentina, btw Argentina is not only Buenos Aires city, if you can try to travel, explore and know the interior of the country
Well, all parents in Argentina need to know Garrahan Hospital. It is one of the best children's hospitals in the world. Treats rare cases in children, it is public and free.
Great information! Thank you
“Hablando a tu corazón” from Charly García sounding in the background while you walk down the street in Buenos Aires, nothing more Argentinian than this moment right here 😂
Uno de los mejores hospitales privados del país , es el Hospital universitario Austral.En el suburbio de Pilar.Atencion y médicos excelentes.Un hermano.mio fue operado allí.
Para cardiología sin duda el Sanatorio Favaloro.
*nothing more Porteño *cof cof*
Era "Tu amor" la canción, no "Hablando a tu corazón".
@@alejomdpehhh no. Es Hablando A Tu Corazón. Googlealo.
@@SlashsBluesBall Si estamos hablando del tema que está sonando al final del video (5:40), es "Tu amor". Conozco bien los dos temas. Edit: me hiciste volver a ver el video, es verdad, durante la primera parte están pasando "Hablando a tu corazón". Están los dos temas.
I am a doctor in Argentina and as such I can say something about the video, and that is that with some exceptions, the fees of doctors (even specialists) are just below the average income of the general population. For example, last week a surgeon colleague told me that for a pancreatectomy the module (amount that his patient's health insurance pays for the procedure) was around 500,000 pesos (about 350 dollars). This amount had to be distributed between the surgeon himself, the anesthetist, the instrumenters, the material, etc. In the end, the surgeon had an income of 80,000 pesos (a little more than 50 dollars) for his fees. This for a pancreatectomy... in the USA for $50 a surgeon doesn't even touch the patient's abdomen
I really appreciate your experienced response and information. This is a complex topic and I only know what goes on from the customer side. Also, In the USA we are scammed and taken advantage of by predatory insurance companies and centralized hospital networks.
Ay re triste 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
@@Economic_Frontpero en EEUU un médico gana bien! Comparado con argentina. Hay abuso de poder también si lo ves
Basically doctors and specialists are so underpaid as the rest of the people (of this country) who cannot access to private attention, as said for example, if you have kids, waiting with them for 8 hours (or more) to have attention in public hospital is not something pleasant also as an adult that need to go work is more complicated.
So ok, the tourist find "cheap" to have attention here but this is completely unfair for those who studied for years and maybe had masters and such and work for more than 8 hours/ day and still cannot afford having dinner out with their family, or have nice vacations because they're so underpaid.
Now the question is, are the doctors well paid on the US? because if they pay 1000usd for attention and they give their best and they are also well paid I see some justice there.
Que verguenza
Argentinian here, I live in New Zealand, but every time I visit my family in Arg. all of us, husband, my 2 sons and myself we visit a dentist there because it’s a lot cheaper, and much better service and quality, my sons needed new teeth retainers, in Arg, was us$20 including the visit, and NZ us$100 only the retainer, the visit it’s around us$80. My dad had eye surgery for cataracts for both eyes for the same price that my father in law in NZ did only for one eye, without multi focal lenses, my dad doesn’t need reading or progressive glasses anymore. Medical tech in arg, it’s not behind, you get better care. I don’t know how they do things in USA, but before a surgery in arg, you have to do blood test, check your heart, etc. so there are not surprises during surgery, but it shocks me here that you go to surgery without tests, you just fill some papers and they ask if you have any medical conditions, if you don’t know, I guess it’s a risk. By the way, my husband and kids are moving to arg. next year. We can have better life there than NZ. it’s to expensive to leave here, and we get better health care too, my husband loves Argentina, we all do. Good luck to you and enjoy your stay. There are so many beautiful places to visit. Patagonia, Iguazú falls, and much, much more.
Thank you for sharing all your experiences! I appreciate that!
En la guardia de un hospital público te hubieran tratado igual de bien .Que disfrutes tu estadía..❤🇦🇷
¡gracias por la información! También he estado viendo hospitales públicos muy recomendados.
No tendría que ir a un hospital público porque eso se deja para atender a los que realmente lo necesitan.
@@basiliusnaaninga7512 Igual si pasara un accidente el SAME lo llevaría a un hospital público... la otra opcion era haberse atendido y donar a la cooperadora los 30 dólares y ayudar al hospital. He visto extranjeros en el Hospital Argerich dejar U$S 100 claro para ellos por lo que cuenta este señor es el 10% de lo que le cuesta una consulta en su país y para la cooperadora cien dólares es un montón. Saludos
@@leocuello66en todo caso el arancel debe ser calculado en proporción al salario y el costo de salud en su país de origen.
@@Economic_Front Tal cual.
Éxitos. Te deseo la mayor de las suertes. Que la gente buena y trabajadora como vos venga acá y triunfe, será una de las bases para que el futuro de Argentina sea prospero y bello. Bienvenido a Argentina. Éxitos y bendiciones a tu familia.
Thank you so much!
0:48 Charly García in the background, he's probably the biggest legend of Argentine Rock music! Once you start diving into all the national music stars you might be very surprised.
Your feedback is good, I am happy that you enjoy Argentina but what for you was cheap for an average Argentine is not. The minimum wage in Argentina is around 250 dollars (and that changes all the time because we have a lot of inflation). So your visit to the hospital is equivalent to 12% of the minimum wage. The prices are low because they adjust to the purchasing power of an Argentine and also because they are subsidized by the state and the medical insurance of Argentines.
You are not to blame for this situation but in my opinion tourists should have a mandatory medical insurance (as requested by most European countries, in the United Kingdom and the US) that covers their expenses in case they have an accident with costs that are without state subsidy or other money that comes from citizens. This would be fairer and would prevent people from coming to the country to get free treatments and would alleviate the tax burden for those of us who have to live here.
Thank you and thanks for sharing those details!
A ver...si vos dependes de un salario mínimo es porque nunca quisiste a ser algo mas...sos de la generación que siempre viviste de la esclavitud del Estado...o sea...los que viven del salario mínimo es porque nunca trabajaron en relación de dependencia ni trataron de mejorar su situación...creo que si medianamente lista sabrás a qué me refiero...sl2.
El Garrahan es lo mejor para los niños. Inclusive tiene lugares para que se queden los padres que vienen de otras provincias que no pueden pagar alojamiento. Totalmente gratuito y de alta complejidad para los niños. Es increíble el trato de todo su personal.
Thank you for that information!
A mi me operaron en febrero de 1988 por una fisura de cadera cuando tenía 13 años. Solo tuvimos que comprar los clavos porque tardaba mucho el trámite para obtenerlos “gratis “, recién se inauguraba el Garrahan. Estoy tan agradecida por la atención de todos❤. Me salvaron de una renguera permanente.❤❤❤. Hoy tengo 49 años.
Public hospitals are as good or better at some thing than private ones.
My brother was redirected to the children's public hospital after 2 failed surgeries to fix his kidney malformation as a child. The top pediatric nephrologist in the country took his case and fixed the problem in one go.
That’s amazing story! Thanks for sharing this.
really happy for having you here in Argentina. Hope all the best for you and your family. Thank you for sharing your experiences!
Thank you! :)
Regarding health, I`m not sure in Argentina, but in Uruguay (next door country) apart from health insurance companies, you have also "mutualistas" and they are hospitals with a membership monthly fee (like if it was a club or a gym). This is a good system because they get to know their clients, and they keep track of them. It is also in their interest to do preventive care, since they will spend less money. They will do cancer check ups, for example, so they can find it at early stages and remove it by surgery instead of expending a tons of money in a patient doing quimio during years. With the insurance system, hospitals just make more money the more sick you are.
Thanks for the information!
Hello, guys! A new subscriber here. Welcome to Argentina!! 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷 Hope you feel great and happy here ❤
Thank you so much! Also thank you for following along.
Para que vengan a atenderse casi gratis en nuestro sistema y seguir chupando del estado que está en banca rota? Bienvenidos??
It's Nice to hear how people treate You. Make me Proud of My country
Viva la Salud y educacion publica!
And freedom!!
Q tipo de freedom?
Viva la libertad! Viva la propiedad privada!
La libertad de morirse de hambre. Vivan los monopolios
@@luxinterior5743 Vos adorás al mayor monopolio de todos, el monopolio de la violencia llamado Estado.
Si trabajás no te vas a morir de hambre, zurdito.
Here 300 dollars is a lot.
That's why unless you have an "obra social" or "prepaga" in Argentina, nobody uses private hospitals.
In ANY hospital, private or otherwise, they should treat you like a patient, NOT a costumer.
Thanks for the information. And I agree, I misspoke. I was trying to explain how they treat you like an inconvenience in the USA. And that the Argentina experience was so much better!
@@Economic_Front I prefer to be treated like a costumer haha also, if you need drugs from the pharmacy many times you can get them without prescription you just have to try going to different pharmacies
@@ultrajoe3671 dont forget that when you are a costumer and you dont have money you dont get treatment! lol
@@darkglobe420 thats why public hospitals exist in Argentina and Europe, Im talking about private hospitals, last year I paid my own surgery for hernia, around 400 dollars if I remember correctly.. not sure but around that amount,.
How good that you value and respect my Beloved Country! Success and may God bless you in everything you want to do in our country. Fraternal hugs from Tucumán. (New subscriber)
Wow, thank you! Very grateful to be here and to have you following along!
Welcome to Argentina bro. The true land of the free❤
Thank you so much! I feel the freedom here! It’s a breath of fresh air!
Freedom in Argentina has been around since 1984. Some people think that it is something recent. NOT TRUE!! DON'T LET THEM KID YOU!!
Restrictions n freedom and repression are back!!
Freedom in Argentina has been around since 1984. Some people think that it is something recent. NOT TRUE!! DON'T LET THEM KID YOU!!
Restrictions n freedom and repression are back!!
Tierra de boludos, querrás decir. Que vienen y se quieren llevar todo gratis de un país en banca rota
Except I’m trapped in my house cause I have bars on my windows. Lol
Lots of comments about the public hospitals in Argentina here, but I haven’t seen anyone mentioning that one problem the last few years is that LOT of people from other south American countries (literally MILLIONS) are freeriding and that is putting a strain on the system, especial people from Bolivia, Paraguay and Peru. One example is AIDS patients that only come to Argentina for "free" (taxpayer funded) service that they world never get in their home country. That is one reason many chose private hospitals, the service may be the same, actual often better in public hospitals, but it can be overcrowded by foreigners. (I had several operations here and can attest to getting faster and better treatment than I would have in my native socialist utopia in Scandinavia).
Thanks for sharing this!
Es cierto lo que dices. Algunos hospitales públicos, sobre todo en provincias fronterizas, están empezando a cobrar atenciones a los extranjeros. Hay mucho abuso.
@@AugustoNicolai y como resultado de eso, los hospitales que estaban colapsados ahora se ven como hospitales normales y no como terminal de autobuses.
Come on guys... the problem is not (and never was) the immigrants. Being for a poor or a rich country. The problem is the low budget, the parasitic companies (like SwissMedical, owners of AméricaTV). If the patient (patient, not customer) is like the host says as a "cow milk", welcome... at the moment it begins to be deficit... to the public health system. They even have a term "tornillo" (screw) because it is worse than a "clavo".
Almost all major entrepreneurs in Argentina support whoever promises to reduce public spending. In lawful and ethical ways... or in lawful ways... or they support. They are fundamentalists, fanatics of that. But make no mistake, they are reasonable and intelligent people. The subsidies they receive, the multiple aids they get... that, on the contrary, should be increased. And of course, the infrastructure they need is paid for by the state and must be ideal.
Many, the majority of the big ones, perceive themselves as libertarians, but they live off the state’s teat. ("viven the la teta (teat, breast) de Fulano" is the argentinean way of saying "John Doe is the cow milk of them... I love how similar and different the expression are!)
My mother (82 years old) had a surgery... not covered by the "insurance" (la prepaga, SwissMedical)... she pays 600 dollars a month (it a lot of money here, specially for a retiree). She had to undergo surgery covered by the social health insurance. Surgery, hospitalization, pathological tests, food, and the kindness of a lovely nurse... zero pesos.
A social health insurance is a society where workers of a specific industry, such as transportation, metallurgy, etc. (not necessarily, but that’s how it started), pay a monthly fee for medical coverage in institutions that have an agreement with it (or that are directly owned by the social health insurance).
The difference (positive according to my way of thinking, though it might not be according to yours) is that if you are in a higher position and earn more, you pay more. If you are not and earn less, you pay less.
They are not necessarily limited to that. They also often have hotels (open to everyone, very affordable for members... But really ridiculously affordable. I will always remember the magnificent croissants at the Campsic hotel in Cosquín.
But speaking of immigrants.
First: They are people, if they are ill, they need treatment. I do not care if they have money, come from a poor country or from Sweden. White skin, brown skin, purple with green dots skin... I don't care.
Second: France.
Third: They are already paying taxes. You can argue that some came from countries.... ok. Donations are always accepted, but to create a bureaucratic structure for this... could be more loosing than winning. And fills with mud, something that should be (it is not) spotlessly clean.
My way of thinking is veeeeery different from yours. I see the world in an entirely different way. But you are not only welcome, I am happy you are here.
The Constitution of Argentine begins with a paragraph known as "the Preamble," which outlines the context, foundations, and objectives of the supreme law. Its current text is as follows:
"We, the representatives of the people of the Argentine Nation, assembled in General Constituent Congress by the will and election of the provinces that comprise it, in fulfillment of pre-existing pacts, with the purpose of constituting national unity, ensuring justice, consolidating internal peace, providing for common defense, promoting general welfare, and securing the blessings of liberty for ourselves, our posterity, and all men in the world who wish to inhabit Argentine soil: invoking the protection of God, source of all reason and justice: do ordain, decree, and establish this Constitution for the Argentine Nation."
The constitution was inspired by Alberdi. A man that Milei worships (anyway, I respect Alberdi a lot). I am sure you notice how similar to the beginning of the US constitution, but ours makes explicit one point... "and all men in the world who wish to inhabit Argentine soil".
nobody mentions that because that idea has no specific data support, its just an idea
Is The same public hospitals . People Is very nice and good atentions . Good look
I’ve been hearing this! We are glad to learn this.
bienvenido a la ARGENTINA EL MEJOR PAÍS DEL MUNDO
YES!!🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
As an Argentinian I don't like Hospitals being free for foreigners. We're a poor country and we can't really afford to treat foreigners for free. As long as you pay for it be my guest. Welcome brother!
he's literally paying for the service just by paying VAT taxes (IVA)
I couldn’t agree more. That would be a very bad policy. Thank you for the warm welcome!
@@AlejoDarioni stop with this nonsense, foreigners that use the healthcare system DO NOT compensate via the couple hundred dollars MAX they would be "spending" in taxes. If you have to travel thousands of kilometers just to exploit the good will of a country that has "free" (no such thing) healthcare then you deserved to be charged.
@@AlejoDarioni no he is not, stop spreading this blatant lie. It's more than likely that 0 of the foreigners dollars you claim is being used to pay for the service actually end up in the hands of the health professionals.
Who told you that we are a poor country? Milei? Sounds so damn weird, how are we poor?
visit also Tigre district, and northern zone of Buenos Aires. here is the best quality of life in the zone.
Thanks for the tip!
Vivi un año en Europa y no hay como la atención medica Argentina y su sistema sanitario publico y privado!! Lo mejor y la cobertura para medicamentos costosos es total!!🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
Europe and USA system is corrupt.
Vaccines are obligatory in Argentina for children, but it is mostly enforced by the schools.
Las pseudo vacunas que causaron trombos y millones de efectos secundarios para la farsa del 2020-2021 también?
Are there excemptions out of it? I do not believe in vaccines for children.
You should have tried a Public Hospital... I worked as an MD at a Public Hospital over 40 years and gosh I am PROUD!!! Health care is al least as good as in a private clinic OR STILL FAR BETTER!!! And you wouldnt have paid anything at all, not even a nickel!!!
Thank you for your service! We have always respected and appreciated medical personnel
For yhe tourists as well
We are paying our public health through our taxes, that still are one of the highest in the worlds. The Argentine State, the State in general does not give anything for free, all is given by us, the citizens of good will (not the leftists) through our taxes.
@@MariaBelenSeyssInquart and we respect that
A friend from Barcelona had an emergency because he's a diabetic. The treatment and cost of the room for one week was free. He was treated at the Zubizarreta Hospital in Buenos Aires last August
00:47 Oooohhhh Dame tu amor a mí!
Le estoy hablando hablando
hablando a tuu coorazón!
Despite this channel was thought to help the new comer and those who want to come, you're goint to have a lot of argentines suscribers when they notice you. We love the people who love our country and is always interesting and fun to know how they see us and their experiences here. I hope you can help many of future expats/new argentinian citizens (and not just watched by argentines haha, although everybody can see by the comments that we receive you gladly and warmly, perhaps that could be a topic for a future video). My best wishes for you and your family.
Great video idea!
Le dio un re toque Charly de fondo 😂
En un hospital público, la calidad de la atención hubiera sido exactamente igual. Quizas el edificio no sea moderno, pero los médicos en Argentina son muy profesionales y la atención es muy buena.
Thank you for sharing this
I'm an Argentine American Cabify (like Uber) driver in Buenos Aires, I know there is something called Medical Tourism where Americans and European people travel to Buenos Aires to get procedures done (hair transplant, teeth, miscellaneous other surgeries) and travel around Argentina a little enjoying the savings.. =)
Thanks for sharing that information! I didn’t realize this. But I have been seeing a lot of people with bandages from procedures. Maybe this is what I’ve been seeing.
@@Economic_Frontit’s really not that common. It’s usually Argentinians living abroad that will come back, travel a bit, visit their families and have some procedure done (usually odontology, or cosmetic surgery)
@@Economic_Front the full combo includes bringing some tech gadgets from your country of origin to sell here at great profit (they're stupid expensive here) to cover part of the fare, stay and whatnot
@@agme8045oh a flight attendant said he/she was doing the dental work done in Argentina.
Man, Cabify is so much better than Uber for us clients (and i think the drivers aswell) so you made the right choice lol
4:40 i know you're talking about private hospitals prices but birth and g section is completely free in public hospitals here, other stuff like for example abortion is free too(since 2020 a law passed), contraceptive treatments like vasectomy or tubal ligation are free also in public hospitals.
Thanks for the information
New subscriber, want to follow your experience living in Argentina. I'm from the US, being to Argentina a couple of times and I love the country, the people, the food, and the culture.
I’m so glad you’ve experienced it! It’s so insanely friendly here in comparison. Very happy to have you subscribing. If you ever have questions please message or ask me on X. I’d love to help more immigration.
Bienvenido al mejor país del mundo 🇦🇷
Yes! Thank you
Medical care here really is something else! It’s unfair how underpaid the profession is (on average) though.
New subscriber, welcome to Argentina and have a nice stay! 🫶🏼🇦🇷
Thank you so much
Welcome to Argentina! I hope you spend a beautiful time among us.
I will! Thank you
$30 lol. That’s amazing. We’re getting robbed left and right here in the US. No reason we should be paying hundreds or thousands of dollars a month in insurance to get treated like crap by the healthcare here. It’s horrible.
You nailed it!!!
He is talking to your heart, says charly garcía in the song that sounds in the very beggining, welcome home friend !
Thank you so much!
Awe poor Bridge❤️ Also, it looks and sounds amazing so far! Cant wait to see more updates!!
At a private hospital, costs can be considerably higher, reaching $60,000 pesos or more for a natural birth and more than $100,000 pesos for a cesarean section since they offer more exclusive services and additional amenities.
Thank you for sharing this information!
The Public Hospital also are very good in Buenos Aires
Thank you
Welcome to Argentina. Thanks for your comments.
Thanks! 😃
Salud pública y GRATUITA.... Si no pagas seguro de viaje y te pasa algo acá quédate tranquilo que los vamos a atender igual, tengas o no tenga dinero. Otros países cruzás la puerta con las tripas en la mano y te preguntan si vas a pagar, sí decís que no, te podés ir muriendo tranquilo en la vereda.... Orgullo de ser Argentina!!!
Thanks for sharing this!
Welcome to Argentina, man. Congratulations on the baby :)
Thank you! We are very excited!
Welcome to Argentina, and Welcome to the forces of heaven!
"...and Wellcome to the forces of hell". There I fixed it for ya.
Enjoy healthcare while it last. They already Fired doctors. The same they calles "heros" on pandemy.
Thank you!
Happy 4th July !! interesting that Argentina has it´s independence on 9 of july. America as a Continent shares a lot of same history, colonization and then independence from Europe, massive immigration and love of freedom were similarities back then. Nice video !
Welcome to Argentina My friend! Beautiful to see how foreigners value my country 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷 New follower here. I saw you in "Astro recargado" TH-cam profile
So happy to have you! Thanks for finding me.
I stumbled upon your channel and it makes me so happy to see that you're happy with your decision to kove to Argentina. Keep the good stuff coming!🎉
Thank you so much!
I'm happy for you. I live in Canada but I'm from Argentina. I recommend you to get health insurance nevertheless but up to you.
Appreciate your advice! Thank you
Yes! OSDE is the best and very convenient
If you're going to live here, you are going to benefit more to have a "prepaga" which is an insurance you just pay monthly like cable, they dont add aditional fees if you visit an hospital like in the us. And that includes everything you need to give birth and your future child care. You just pay a monthly fee x family member according to your plan. It only gets adjusted to inflation
Thank you for the Information!
Los hospitales públicos son muy buenos
Thanks for this info!
Great update!
I am very glad that you made this video, it is very informative. I have seen comments on videos from other American professionals that degrade the professionalism of other countries just because they are not from a "first world"...
making excuses like "they don't speak the same language, it could be a scam or there is no follow-up afterwards" which seems very hypocritical to me, since scams happen in any country, it is racism and enormous selfishness. Doctors from countries like Argentina study for many years, have a lot of experience and are even more professional than a doctor who only seeks his own benefit, charging a lot for something as simple as an x-ray in USA. Thank you so much for this and greetins from Argentina 💕
Thank you for such a wonderful comment! I love this country and people! It’s the best choice we ever made!
No no no, a private hospital is the same as a public hospital. In fact, all the best averages for the entrance exam for residencies are in public hospitals, all the best medical professionals worked in a public hospital.
Thank you for sharing this!
We had the same exact experience while we were there visiting family about 15 years ago. our son had a terrible fever extremely sick we got in saw a doctor medication some lab tests as well as a thermometer to take his temperature all for less than $30 and we were in and out within an hour to an hour and a half.
It can be said that Argentina is slowly recovering what made it great before, what it once represented in the world. I hope that your life here is the best possible and that your family can be happy in this beautiful country!
Thank you so much!
nadie diria eso nunca
@@facundomolli3089 que cosa?
El servicio médico y educativo en la Argentina es “world class”!! Ni un país del “1er mundo” como USA pueda llegarle al talón .. pero bueno, ese costo lo pagamos entre todos, y el beneficio lo gozan hasta los extranjeros 🤷🏽♀️
It’s great here
Así és...Vivamos y dejemos vivir!
Que un medico recomiende vacunarte no es crap, es cuidarte. 🙄
Hey glad to have you here buddy, things are just going to get better and better.
Yes! Thank you
La atención de los profesionales en los hospitales de Argentina es muy buena.
Sin lujos, pero excelentes profesionales
Yes was great!
La salud en Argentina 🇦🇷 es GRATUITA, hubieran ido a un hospital público; allí nadie debe pagar para ser atendido ni tampoco para dar a luz.
that is socialism (according to him)
No es gratuita, la pagamos los argentinos de bien a través de los impuestos. El Estado no te da nada gratis.
@@MariaBelenSeyssInquart y los médicos del hospital la fugan la plata? la mandan a Panamá u otra guarida fiscal?
@@MariaBelenSeyssInquart La plata se la roban y la reparten entre rugbiers; son todos chorros ustedes corruptos
@@pablorey9203 Los médicos del hospital que hagan lo que quieran con el dinero que ganan libremente. Ellos cobran un sueldo que viene de nuestros impuestos. En fin, el hospital público sirve para que nosotros le paguemos a los kirchos y a los zurdos por la medicina con nuestro esfuerzo capitalista.
It's great to hear that you had a positive experience with the healthcare system here in Argentina. The first-rate care you received in the private hospital can be attributed to the high-quality free education provided by institutions like the University of Buenos Aires (UBA). The UBA educates many of our doctors and healthcare professionals, for "free" through state-funded programs, ensuring that everyone has access to top-tier medical training.
Additionally, the reduced cost of your medical attention is a result of the socialist policies implemented over the past 100 years. These policies have aimed to regulate and subsidize healthcare, making it more affordable and accessible to everyone, regardless of their economic status. This is a testament to the values of solidarity and social welfare that have been at the core of our society.
However, if the inhumane policies of the conservative (not libertarian!) Milei succeed, public health services will become much more expensive, and our country will start to follow the path of the USA. This could lead to a system where only those with significant financial resources can afford quality healthcare, undermining the inclusive and equitable principles we've built over the years.
Welcome to Argentina, and I hope you continue to enjoy and appreciate the unique blend of our social and cultural heritage!
Thank you for the welcome! Also thank you for sharing your information and point of view.
@@Economic_Front You are welcome. It's great to hear that you had a positive experience with the healthcare system here in Argentina. What you and your family are enjoying now in Argentina was built through a state-regulated capitalism, which has fostered a morally sound country. This healthy blend of 19th-century liberal traditions and a strong work culture institutionalized by Peronism incorporates the anarchist and socialist leftist traditions from Europe. It's this unique combination that has shaped our nation's moral and social fabric.
🙂 welcome to all of you!
Thank you!
El hospital público habria estado probablemente menos prolijo, estéticamente menos bello y hubiera esperado un poco mas, pero habrías obtenido exactamente la misma atención y gratuitamente.
Si tiene poder económico, no debería usar un hospital público, mantenido con nuestros impuestos.
@@basiliusnaaninga7512 no le estoy diciendo lo que tiene que hacer o no, le estoy contando, para que sepa, que hubiera pasado.
@@basiliusnaaninga7512 Si el turista tiene seguro médico, yo creo que el hospital publico les cobra la atención, como hace cuando tenés obra social. Y bueno si no tiene nada que se lleve una buena imagen ese gasto es una inversión para que hable bien del país. Como al pobre estadounidense que perdió la pierna en un robo y acá le salvaron la vida. Dijo que igual volvería porque se sintió cuidado no todo es $$$$ en la vida. Es importante pero no lo es todo. Nunca fuimos una sociedad interesada y ojala no nos transformemos en eso es horrible
Thanks for the great information!
No es gratis,lo pagamos los argentinos con nuestros impuestos y ya estamos sobrepasados ..así q paguen como nosotros debemos hacerlo en su país
Hi, welcome to Argentina. Don't just focus on Buenos Aires; you have the provinces of Santa Fe or Córdoba where you can find safer cities to live in.
Thank you for the great advice
welcome!! un argentino nace donde se le de la gana!
Ya. I also paid 30 bucks a bit ago for emergency and x-rays in Rosario’s best private hospital. Hospital Británico.
Love to hear this! It’s eye opening from a USA perspective.
@@Economic_Front as a doctor myself,i don't agree that the "Britts" Hospital is the Best in Rosario,80% at least are very good,patients usually select a private hospital for which Docs work there (or a team of Docs),some are better for ab surgery,others have the best Internists,or others the best equipment like TC scans or Lab. Justo ask for options. Have a nice day 👋👋👋
If you have a serious accident, most likely you will be taken to a public hospital and I can assure you that the doctors will do everything they can to save you. Once you are stabilized, they can transfer you wherever you or your family ask, because depending on the specialty you need, it is very likely that there will not be beds.
Thank you for that information!
ok, I'm hooked on your channel!!! I’m Argentinian living in the USA and love your views on different aspects. They are different and well treated. Nice to hear more from your adventures.
So glad to have you!
Public health system is horrible. We have to go before 6 a.m to see if we have luck to get an appointment with a doctor, and if you didn't get one, you have to wait till next month and repeat the process. It's impossible, they're full of immigrants who treat you bad for being argentinian. It's just all horrible. I hope things change.
That’s horrible! Thank you for sharing this story.
4:59 hi to the one on the back 🤣
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Greetings from Peru. Saw your video announcing moving to Argentina on El Clarín a news channel on IG. Great choice you guys made. Argentina is showing the world how things actually have to be made. How the job has to be done. Wish you guys the best. New follower here🙋🏻♂️
Love to have you following! Thank you and I’m so glad more people are seeing this incredible time for Argentina.
Hi, welcome to Argentina. I am a new subscriber to this channel. I hope you are very happy in my country.
Thank you for the warm welcome! Argentina is absolutely beautiful and the culture is a gem in the world. Glad to have you following along!
welcome to Argentina bro! i will follow your channel now and watch your videos as i can, i am from Argentina too, i live in Bahia Blanca which is part of Buenos Aires! it makes me happy you are having a nice experience! apologies for any mispelling as well, i taught english myself haha
Your English is great! Thank you so much
Hola! Me alegra que disfruten de nuestro hermoso pais.A los 58 seg mas o menos:Charly hablando a tu corazon!
Thank you! It’s wonderful
Back in 2018 I went to the US with my family for an exchange program. We had to take our kid to a hospital in Missouri for the same reason as you guys, they charged us 250 dollars for an x-ray!. In 2020 our daughter was born here in Argentina, in a public hospital. We didn't pay a single cent.
Thank you for sharing this!
Buenos Aires city hospitals are great bro, so glad that people like you choose my country to live. Wish you the best, and I would love to be your friend
Thank you!
Happy 4th of July 🎉 !! .Poor little guy ..
I'd like to say our Health Care System is not perfect at all. Indeed it has many flaws and not everyone is happy, including patients and health staff for several good reasons. However, I think we are still very lucky and I can get you because I know the problem you have in US with this matter. You must pay a fortune if in need of medical care and treatment and many Americans just can't. I watched Michael Moore's film, Sicko some years ago. I remember what happened with Obama Care. It's not a model to imitate. Anyway... Don't expect most people here to understand it because the grass is always greener in the US. They'll assume that absolutely everything must be better since it's part of the first world while at the same time they'll tell you without a blink that Argentina is the best country in the world and they may truly think so! These are some of the peculiar mysteries of the Argie nature. Welcome to our dearest Argentine land. You'll never get bored.😁
Thank you so much! And for the information
Please note that Argentinians salary is not comparable to USA at all, therefore that price for the citizens there is high. iT IS TRUE THAT THERE ARE FREE HOSPITAL WHERE YOU MAY PAY BANDAGE AND MEDICINE ONLY. YES, SO FAR DOCTORS ARE EXCELLENT AND i SAY SO FAR, BECAUSE IT IS VERY NOTICEABLE THAT DOCTORS THAT WENT TO STUDY MEDICINE THERE ARE NOT APPLYING THE SAME CRITERY AS THE LOCALS. iT IS KIND OF "TITLE MATTER", THEREFOR THEIR MEDICAL SERVICE IS NOT AS GOOD AS THE NATIONALS. Bue in general there are many doctors that even visit their patients at home, not expecting a sick person travel to their clinic.
Thank you for the information
Enjoy!
Thank you
Buena musica de fondo man...
Haha
What do you mean "treat us like a customer"??
Doctors and nurses treat us as a human being not matter what.
If you go to a public hospital will not make any difference,.
I was comparing to the USA experience. In the USA you’re treated like cattle. You’re also treated like an inconvenience.
I’m happy to hear that! Argentine culture is incredible.
You have very good private health care with family plans like OSDE and is not an scam. It’s really good and convenient
Thanks for sharing this!
Bienvenido a la Argentina..Long Live Freedom Damm it !!!
Thank you !
Una amiga mia que vivia en cordoba habia nacido en yankilandia pero luego sus padres argentinos volvieron asique ella estudio aca y luego de recibirse eb una univerdsidad publica volvio a los estados unidos a buscar laburo y se qyedo alla pero cuabdo venia de visita aprovechaba y se hacia examenes y controles medicos aca porque es carisimo en los estados unidos les recomiendo el documental de michael moore Sicko donde muestra la realidad de la medicina paga
I’ll have to watch that!
A los que dicen que la guardia de un hospital público es buena, les pregunto si alguna vez se hicieron atender o fueron a la guardia del hospital Argerich o Santojanni por ejemplo
Yo fui a la guardia del hospital de clinicas San Martin y fui atendido a nivel de excelencia, vivo en el Reino Unido y la atención acá deja mucho que desear
I’m curious to learn more about this too. Thanks for the comment.
@@ggl2947 Tuviste suerte, yo la llevé a mi mamá de 80 años con bronquitis y no la querian atender, yo creí que se moria de la tos, empecé a gritar como un loco que hasta vino la policia y recién ahí se dignaron a atenderla. Eso fue hace años, ya en el 2022 mi mamá tuvo un ACV y la trataron mal y allí falleció. Una golondrina no hace verano, yo me atendí en los hospitales públicos toda mi vida y la atención es horrible, lleno de gente, la mayoria extranjeros y te tratan muy mal y de muy mala gana
@@davealone1798 Que triste tu historia, lo lamento, pero también hay muchísima gente diciendo que la atendieron muy bien. De qué localidad sos?
@@aphewtxin CABA
The health insurance companies are milking people here in Argentina, too! What a limited view you have of the situation. And yes, do come to Argentina with an insurance because if something more serious than a crushed finger happened to you, you would get taken to a public hospital where, unlike the USA, you would be treated for free in perhaps a less nice atmosphere, with less "fit" (!!!!) nurses, but still with great efficiency. The thing is, public resources here are unfortunately way too limited and they should be ideally destined for local people, not for tourists who decide not to buy travel insurance because it's "scam".
PS: I'd much rather be treated as a person, not a customer, when in need of help.
i wish to you and your family the best of luck in this amazing country
Thank you!
most public hospitals here are incredible too, and you dont have to pay anything. I LOVE ARGENTINA
Really?? For treatment?
@@Wajihavibes no, public hospitals doesnt charge people for treatments. here where i live you can get the meds (prescribed) for free from the inside farmacy in the hospital.
Mi hermano vive en Florida. Cada vez que viene a la Argentina, visita al dentista y a los médicos especialistas para hacerse estudios. Sus cirugías han sido aquí también. Creo que en EEUU además sde sobre medicar a sus pacientes, les convierten en "enfermos" consumidores de drogas, tratamientos, terapias, etc. De por vida... todo un gran negocio de los Hospitales, aseguradoras y empresas farmacéuticas...
Wow! You are 100% correct. Thank you for sharing your story and making this point!
Hola, la gente se muestra tan agradecida con tu actitud, porque lamentablemente la mayoría de los extranjeros que vienen de paises vecinos vienen a vivir de nosotros, usurpan terrenos, colapsan nuestros servicios, viven sin trabajar con planes que pagamos los argentinos que trabajamos y critican el pais.
Lo mejor es tener obra social y atenderte en clinicas privadas. Antes iba por necesidad a hospitales públicos, y aunque te atienden bien, siempre esta saturado de extranjeros a los que les dan prioridad, y yo como argentina teniendo que esperar mucho para todo. Incluso siempre faltan materiales y no alcanzan, porque se gasta todo en esa gente. No debería ser gratuito para extranjeros, vivan o no en el pais, es muy injusto para el nativo
I agree with what you’re saying. It’s not a sustainable the way things are going. Really appreciate you sharing your thoughts.
Tal cual!! El padre de una amiga que vive en EEUU se vino a hacer la dentadura postiza aquí,la pagó pero menos que allá.Y muy feliz!!
Hello, welcome to Argentina. I'm from Venezuela, have been here for 5 years. Hope you keep posting videos. And also if you need to ask any question don't hesitate... Regards
Thank you!
Te viniste a la Argentina nomas..!! 🎉❤
Love it here
If you land in a public hospital in an emergency it would count too, they ask for your private health insurance too, but the idea in general in the country is that in an emergency the treatment is not that costly as in USA. You wouldn't get short in treatment, the problem we have is the medicine and lab material that comes from overseas, that is really expensive ( but covered in part for the insurance). The idea of the new government is to extend a payment for procedures begining at 250 dls for foreigners ( done now in certain areas of the provinces limiting other countries as an experiment, because the government cut he funding on small health centers). It would be very hard to implement in national hospitals, as the free health is coded in the laws of the land. In my opinion the quality of life of everyone depends in a big part in the low rate in medical treatments, I hope it keep this way.
Thanks for all the information!
welcome to your most amazing experience: Argentina
Absolutely! Thank you