No kid would just "choose" to be a different gender! It's obviously not a choice. No one would choose to face discrimination. So therefore, no one should tell people what they are and aren't. Only you know what you are.
and here it is, 10 years after this episode aired, and transgender children are now illegal in 26 states! CPS is called by people who have neighbors that have transgender children to take them away from those "abusive parents". It makes me sick, and I'm ashamed to know that my state is one of those 26 backward looking states. I recently called out my governor, lieutenant governor and Congressman in an email with several points they just don't seem to give a damn about regarding what the transgender youth face and deal with every day, and their bullshit certainly isn't helping them, only making matters worse! I doubt my emails to them actually reached them, probably got deleted by some underling censoring everything going to their offices.
15:50 - If what he says should keep any merit, then Moses shouldn't have freed the slaves, because they were born slaves, not free. Jesus should not have healed the sick or turned the water into wine, because God did not want one form change into another.
AMEN. Also, if "God doesn't make mistakes about the way you were born," what about conjoined or parasitic twins? What about other birth defects? Should medical intervention be denied to such babies because they're "the way God intended"?
Kami Renee Melanie Greenwood Fundamentalist Christians dont see the world that way. My Jehovah's Witness neighbour at the top my street wont use mobile phone again because she sent a text message once and apparently the recipient didnt get it. My mum thinks that she cant have children because of Reproductive Problems but I think she cant have children (the JW neighbour) because they had sex ONCE and didnt fall pregnant.
"Some people say support your child, let them live their life. Others say don't do that, that's the worst thing for your child." Is there even a question what should be done?? Supporting your child is the ONLY way to handle being a parent to someone.
24:30 So she and her parents are shock that a Catholic school will follow the teaching of the Catholic Church? Even if you do not agree with the teaching of the Catholic Church, you should NOT be surprise that a Catholic School with follow the teachings of the Catholic Church. Actually, you should totally expect Catholic schools to follow the teachings of the Catholic Church.
So much ignorance in the comment section that it makes me sad. How are they in any way hurting you? Who are you to tell these girls that they are living their life wrong?
+Justine Stylinson Hello Justine. Just wanted to say you are 100% correct and that they aren't hurting anyone and no one has the right to tell them they are living a life that is "wrong". There is a saying: "Do not judge anyone else until you have walked a mile in their shoes". Not the original phrase but you understand what that means right? Anyways, as far as the comments, lots of stupid people in the world. You learn to laugh at them and know you are right as you get older. Most people can't be reasoned with because they don't use common sense or reason but emotion or what their wacked out parents believe. Laugh Justine. Learn to laugh because life is too short to be sad. :oD
No, they are not hurting me or others in any way, but that does not mean I and others can't raise doubts about what they are doing. If you believe that someone is going down a destructive path, would you not feel obligated to say something? In this case, I'm not sure if you can change your gender and if that is good/heathy, which is why I discuss with others to get closer to an answer.
He meant in gender, i don't accept gay,transgender or anything because of my religion but if i see a person like that i won't judge them, i won't make fun of them i will just not pay attention and let them live their life, but in the bible it states man and women and not man and man or women and women so i cannot accept it but i have always told everyone love is love so i am neutral.
well they mentally confused his gender. Quite literally. So a grasp on reality he may not have. When he figures out reality and comes to the realization he was born. And he had no choice. And no matter how much you visualize it as different than what it is. It's not. you're either born as the majority of normal male-female. Or nonnormal like a hermaphrodite. For something that nature. Normal as in being regular occurrence. Such as a male or female baby. Once he figures out science is real. And your concepts can be abstract. I think he will be mad at the ones who directed them down the path of your imagination is reality. see I found out the 70s they defunded mental hospitals. And released a lot of mentally ill people in the population. Very scary.
I never understand why haters insist 'it's a choice - change it!!' - can they not SEE all the pressure and rejection these young children have to face? Very very few ADULTS could face that amount of hate and pressure - so that these children feel THAT strongly that they lose friends, school, EVERYTHING - should be proof enough it's not a 'choice'. What amazingly courageous young women. They have a huge amount to offer society and they have the right to be treated fairly. Cos how the hell can it affect anyone else if they wear a girls school uniform???!!!
Very true. To all the "haters" out there, if being gay is a choice then right now, choose it. Can u do it? Can u force yourself to like the same gender? Didn't think so.
Queen Bee Exactly!! Also, why would we *choose* to live a life worrying about discrimination and violence?? I don't understand how people can think that gender and sexuality are a choice.
+Jeremiah Johnson sorry but sex and gender are not the same thing. While people do use the terms interchangeably in common speech the medical and scientific communities differentiate between the two. www.med.monash.edu.au/gendermed/sexandgender.html
@Robin they fear what they find hard to understand sweetheart! Just remember to keep an open mind and attempt to understand how and why otters may feel, look or act differently than you. That is the best way to overcome our differences.
So much for a 10 year old to worry about. However, they appear to be so mature for their age. Great parents for accepting them and loving them for who they are not what their parents wish them to be.
marhoekful Yes scientifically proven medically safe hormone blockers. This delays the onset of puberty and gives the child time to better determine the path they wish their life to take. Puberty as the wrong sex is utter hell for a trans person. You argue to putting healthy, happy kids through utter torment and hell for your own twisted ideology as to how others should be living their life. For shame.
marhoekful Paedophilia analogy? Really? Serous? I hope you never have kids. You clearly have no ability to listen to the needs and desires of a child. As for psychologists or lawyers condoning this, they do condone this. A lot. Many, many trans kids have gone on hormone blockers with the aid of their gender therapists and the courts. Many have now grown up into happy and productive adults. Who are you to dictate to others how they should be living their life? You sound as though you would be quite happy to stand back and let young trans boys and girls kill themselves because they have been denied access to the hormone blocking treatments (and later hormones) that can improve the quality of their life dramatically. All this because YOU don't like the idea, as if you know anything about it. You wouldn't know the first thing about being trans. Just another cis ignorant.
marhoekful Oh please. You've already been told that all blockers will do is delay the onset of puberty. If a mistake has been made (and it rarely is for the record) then the child will just go through puberty at an older age when they stop taking the blockers. In how many ways and how many times do you need to be told that hormone blockers are medically safe before it SINKS IN!!!
Oh here we go, you move from one ignorance to the next. Now it's about how boys are raised and that if they're raised wrong they'll want to be girls. Nevermind that parents will often actively discourage such behaviour out of social pressures to the detriment of the child. Just accept that some girls are born with boy bodies and some boys are born with girl bodies. Jesus. You don't go through it yet you sit there acting like you know all about it.
marhoekful You're an ignorant twit, stuck on 'playing dress-up' idea, when while there are SOME who do that, many are genuinely born into a physical body which does not jive, does not match with their brain, their natural disposition of either male or female. NO one can force a child to be a boy/man if everything else (other than a penis) within the child is a female. Many parents try to ignore and or deny any kind of expression of femininity , thinking the child will 'outgrow' it. I read so many stories about transgenders, and some of them are so heartbreaking. Google: Leelah Alcorn . She was born with male body parts but knew as even a tiny child that she was a girl . Her religious mother was a monster, and made her life hell, telling her "God don't make mistakes" and punishing, and shaming her so bad that she went out and stepped in front of a semi truck on the Interstate----D E A D.....at 14 yrs of age. I hate that bigoted religious freak mother who drove that child to her death !
"I don't believe God makes mistakes." So, maybe you're right and God made this person the way they are to teach YOU that your beliefs are backwards and are actually against the teachings of Jesus and God.
Being trans is okay, nothing wrong with that. What bothers me is the fact that there is a relationship with clothing. Clothing is clothing. There is no natural scientifically substantiated fact for boys and girls clothing and is therefore not tied to gender. You do not have to be or become trans to be able and allowed to wear certain types of clothing that are assigned to a gender based on stereotyping thoughts. Clothing is genderless! You don't have to be a girl to wear a skirt or dress, and you don't have to be a boy to wear pants. This also applies to jewelry, make-up and other things. This is a fabrication of our narrow society. Time for change and acceptance in the interests of happiness, freedom and humanity.
The fact that they are so mean to these brave girls is discussing. They are amazing the way they wanna be, as a gender fluid person I can't describe how brave they are.
Sick of people useing God as an excuse for hate! Im 52, i have been Trans since i was 4. So that shows im long before this new avalanche of folks coming out. Im also a Christian. To all of you that spout Gods name with hate, re read your Bible. God is love ot says, for God so loved the WORLD. He did not separate anyone!
+FeelTheLack I'm intersex (please don't use "hermaphrodite") and there are verses that mention us in passing as being totally okay (using extremely old terminology but it still checks out). I'm also a transman. I'd cite them, but I'm currently dealing with kidney issues and don't have my desktop computer where I have everything bookmarked, because I'm not at home.
Not as rare as you'd think, most people who are intersex don't know that they are until a medical issue arises. Some go their entire lives without knowing, until an autopsy is performed.
It's not just genitalia - it can be internal such as internal testes or ovaries, it can be excess androgens or estrogen. It can be present only chromosomally, such as having XXY or XYY chromosomes. All of these (usually) don't present anything that would cause an average doctor to genetically test you. It took nearly two decades of my life to get anywhere with doctors.
Exactly. Stuff like this makes me mad. I am know as a girl with girl parts but I know I'm transgender. I would love to be a guy and have guy parts. Anyway, if God doesn't makes mistakes then.....why are there even transgenders in the first place?
supercountryboy1999 I find your comment funny for being a dumbass ^^ Anyway, It's not like I was trying to offend you or anything xD STOP ASSUMING THINGS YOU'LL GET IT WRONG!
The lawyer, near the end of the clip, speaks total sense about the job of an adult being to listen carefully to the child. If only more adults took that view, half of the rubbish in this World would probably disappear. The two girls featured will face enough difficulties in their lives, they need our support, not condemnation.
I am change my transgender and being girl. My family disowned me. Been bully by my family my whole life. I love play with my doll and wear girl clothes and make me happy. Been depressed and crying everyday because people keep jump me all time for being different. My name is Courtney and need support in my life and need friends in my life.From Courtney
You're such a brave person! I wouldn't have made it. Keep strong, there are a lot of people that support you. And I know that what I'm gonna say is cruel, but if I were you, I would reject my family and continue living my life with the people that support me and love me for who I truly am. Stay strong :) Love, Alexandra.
it's how i feel sometimes, but i remain i the closet because im too afraid to say "im not a fucking boy!" to my parents. i don't want to be disowned as i always think, and most likely know it. im only 14, but i understand what's wrong and why im like this. when i was 5 i knew, but i shut up about it because i know it's something wrong with me. sorry for ranting, anyway, you need to be strong and every Transgender, Gay, Les, etc. needs to be strong for the people that loves them and the people they love too. Love Allyson
Mmm. These two children are/were only ten. They saw that a (girl) wears pink, dresses, high heels, jewelry, and make up, and a (boy) wears pants, likes trucks, and plays roughly with other boys. Trey/tracy, with his ten year old mind, realized that he didn't like rough housing, and he liked dresses, thus he came to the conclusion that he /must/ be a girl because, well, he liked what (girls) liked. However, the girl and boy categories mentioned above are mere stereotypes. There are girls out there that like the color yellow instead of pink. There are girls out there that prefer pants over dresses. There are girls out there that take pleasure in capturing bugs and playing video games. Do these external things make her a he? Of course not. These external likings, however, seem to define who someone is in nowadays society, and it deludes people. Boys don't have to always be aggressive. There are many boys out there that are sensitive and would rather sketch or dance opposed to shooting his first duck with a bb gun. Does this make him a girl? Of course not. Since when were dresses only designated for girls/women? A couple hundred years ago males wore dresses and nightgowns. Since when was blue a boy color and pink a girl color? It's mere preference. People like simplicity, so stereotypes are formed. Stereotypes confuse others, and the stereotype that trey/Tracy wasn't a boy because he didn't like "boy" things confused him. But ultimately in the end, he's still a boy who merely likes pink (just another color in the color spectrum), doesn't like aggressive rough housing, and likes shoes that higher situate your heel. These preferences don't suddenly make him a girl.
I'm sorry but you are wrong it is not about what a color a person likes. Listen to what they say when they see themselves as a girl or boy they are telling the truth. Liking a certain color or toy only serves to reinforce what they know who they are.
Sorry, but you are definately wrong here. You are confusing gender expression with gender identity. The media does not help this image, actually, because they always pick children who are more stereotypically feminine or masculine. I am a transgender woman. I loved Star Wars, He-man and fighting boys. I hate pink, and really though Barbie was just trashy junk. I was a happy kid running around in my Spiderman Pygamas. I am not transgender because I liked those things. I am transgender because my brain was telling me I was a girl, and that my body was wrong. PIcture me as a little golden haired, happy go lucky boy growing up on a farm in the middle of suburbia. This happy little kid, for no reason- and barely able to string together a sence, tried to cut off 'his' penis. I was not because I was sickened or disturbed by it, my parents where great, caring and informative. It just didn't belong to me. I did it in a relaxed manner... I seriously thought it was like hair or fingernails... attached but not part of me and so it would not hurt. It wasn't mine. I wasn't supposed to have one, so I figured, hey... I will just trim it off. Problem sol...YOUCH! Turns out, it did hurt. Then, as I hit my teenage years I got seriously depressed and nearly killed myself a couple of times. Reason? No idea, at the time. I felt horrible. My girlfriends say I was handsome, but I looked in the mirror and felt ill. No idea why. Long story short, it turns out I was a victim of D.E.S. My brain developed female, as well as some internal things. I was not a boy. Years later, when trying to find why I couldnt conceive, I got the news. Pretty freaking weird, but suddenly a whole life of weird little things I did made sense. Why I wanted to be princess leia, not luke. Why I fancied 'dykey' looking girls with short hair, why my social group was almost all girls. Had I been given the right information at the right time, had the right health care, I could have had corrective hormones before puberty hit, and my life would not have been so confusing, dreadful and filled with suicidal thoughts. I would be the happy, healthy woman I am now. Only, I wouldn't have had to go through many hours of painful treatments to fix secondary sex characteristics and would have a twenties I could remember. So spare a thought for these kids. They are not mentally ill, they have an intersex condition. They need treatment, and they are getting it. Leave them to take the best path.
What no! My younger sister bites, and loves trains. But hell she knows that she's a girl. When she was younger, she was far from the pink and purple girl. These kids are smarter than you think. It's not even on preference on clothes or taste but literally, they want to be mommies, have boobs get married, give birth and get periods. Which I would easily avoid. Furthermore. Kids that young know whether they are girl or boys. When I was 9, I overheard this conversation between my mom and her friend talking about how Thailand sometimes kidnap men and force them to change into girls. That gave me nightmares because I thought someone could do that to me and I didn't want to be a guy. I literally couldn't sleep for a week be
I must ask -- have you ever stopped to wonder why there are so many transgender males in comparison to transgender females? I am, of course, not disqualifying girls in any way; there are many girls out there that feel they're really a boy, but I'm speaking in vast majority. I hypothesize its because a male's identity is largely taken on and learned, not inherently bestowed. In the womb, all children start out as female, and later on male genitalia develops. As the male infant grows after birth, little testosterone is present, and as you know, female children and male children share many similarities, such as high voices, same height, low stress tolerance, and so on. Male children need -- and I stress on 'need' -- a masculine, fatherly figure around to look up to and to take on that male identity -- they cannot learn it from women or other boys their age. With divorce rate so high nowadays and so many kid's living 90% of their lives surrounded by others the same immature age, it's no mystery why so many children are confused with what and who they are; of course I cannot extrapolate without evidence at my fingertips, but there is enough reason to assume. This also links with homosexuality and why many male homosexuals are quite, well, "feminine". It seems as though there was a disconnect with their male identity during childhood. I don't want to dig too deep into the subject of homosexuality because it's besides the point, but its just another example. In essence, I have reason to believe these children are confused. If I grew up around parents that taught me everything was relative, and that I can be whatever I want to be -- male or female despite what's down there -- I'd be a very, very confused child. Sometimes -- no, a lot of the time children need guidance, especially at such a tender age when they are still developing. I call it irresponsible parenting to neglect the enlightenment of the most rudimentary basics. If I had a child and it had a male genitalia, I'd say, " Honey, you're a boy" and of course never confine him to society's stereotypes. I wouldn't, however, kiss my son on the forehead and seriously say, " Now honey, what's between your legs means nothing, okay? You be whatever you feel like." Then my son would stare at me wide-eyed and tentatively inquire, "You mean I can be like Hopper -- a frog?" " 'Course."
It hurts my heart to know these children have to struggle like this. Everyone should be free to be who they are and what they want to be. It shouldn't be an issue at all.
I don't know why people feel so strongly against this, as long as they're good people, being raised to be productive adults in society and are kind, who cares what gender a person associates with regardless of what role in reproduction they're biologically programmed to play. And I'm a Christian, and I don't think God made a mistake here, he made all transgendered people perfect just as He did everyone. And He loves them!
I'm MTF transgender too and I can really relate to this! I really hate it when people use the bible as a excuse to hate LGBT+. Honestly not everyone believes in god so they DON'T have to follow Bible says. Not to mention that there is no exact proof that he exists or not and we don't even know who wrote the Bible either so nobody should make anyone feel bad about themselves just because they think it's true! Also the Bible says that wearing clothing with more than one material and getting hair cuts are sins so we're all sinners so why does it even matter!? These people can believe as much as they like but no one should change their minds just because of a omnipotent being that we don't even know exists or not.
The irony is amusing considering that the LGBT is probably the most aggressive cult out there these days. The only difference is they call people bigots instead of sinners. Frankly, the Christians are more reasonable because at least they have some evidence for what they believe.
Daniel Newman 1. Well if you're insulting us with your bible excuse then yes we will call you bigots. You're saying that you hate being called a bigot and yet you're being a bigot to us which make you a hypocrite! 2. We have evidence too! There are loads of scientific proof that LGBT exists and we already know it exists. Heck since we don't even know if god exists or not hating gays because the bible said so is like saying "Aliens came down to Earth to tell me to make up this argument." 3. Like I just said anybody that uses their god as a excuse to hate gays... just... don't even bother saying anything because their arguments are not going to change any of our views whatsoever.
No child or parent chooses to suffer the discrimination these beautiful children face daily. Good luck and God bless these parents who are fighting for these beautiful children to live their lives as they feel they are instead of living how society dictates they must. Xx
Only someone who doesn't experience gender dysphoria would say it isn't real or that it's just a choice. It has haunted me my whole life until it got to the point I couldn't endure it anymore, embraced the truth of who I am, and began my transition. It's the best decision I've ever made. My anger, anxiety and irritability have subsided tremendously, and I just feel balanced and sane for the first time. Being transgender isn't a delightful experience, but it's far healthier to live your life authentically than to repress who you are because of fear or denial. And it's nobody's place to decide what God's will is. It's quite clear that Nature makes mistakes all the time, and that has nothing to do with spirituality or some creationist rhetoric. The body does not determine its sense of identity anymore than a cup determines its contents or a musical instrument determines its own melody. It's just a vessel, and the vessel is not the soul.
The Bible says it’s because of sin that nature was corrupted and “thorns and thistles” entered the world. Romans 8:22 says, “We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.” In other words, nature longs for redemption to come and for things to be set right. That’s the source of disorder and chaos. Let’s make this crystal clear once more: God did not create evil and suffering. Now, it’s true that he did create the potential for evil to enter the world, because that was the only way to create the potential for genuine goodness and love. But it was human beings, in our free will, who brought that potential evil into reality. Soo boo-hoo you and stop blaming god.
loveme05 Did God not know that was going to happen? Is God really that inept? Is that why God repented ( נָחַם Genesis 6:6) of making man? Oh wait, God doesn't repent. Whoops. ( נָחַם Numbers 23:19 )
loveme05 Your a victim of mental abuse. You have bought into the circular talking used to manipulate good people like you into doing the will of a religious organisation. I hope that one day you will wake up and have a fullfilling, free, life of love and light. There is no iron age hebrew god. He just does not exists. Look outside. There is an amazing universe full of diverse and brilliant things. Go learn about it. Stop buying into the bullshit. I challenge you to google contradictions in the bible and read them for one week. Just one week.
I noticed that Tracy and Harriet, other than the genitalia, still have feminine features. Even at the age 10, most boys would develop a masculine frame such as the broad shoulders, longer feet etc. Tracy and Harriet have smaller shoulders and smaller feet than boys their age. Jazz (founder of Purple Rainbow foundation) also had wider hips than boys BEFORE she took the blockers. A lot of people don't know that the pre-natal maturation of sex involves the development of other features before the genitalia. The genitalia is determined by the third trimester. It very possible that these girls could have biological blueprints making them feminine. NOTE. This is just my hypothetical observation. Don't yell at me.
Why does everyone have to give up the gender on their birth certificate just for a few, who are confused? Race and father's occupation aren't relevant, but how do you deny your genetic and chromosomal classification as male or female?
No trans person is saying to get rid of gender as someone who best friend's with a trans girl they just wanted to change there gender on there THERE birth certificate no one else's
You can't expect to attend a Catholic school and expect them to change their rules that are based on their religion to accommodate your child whether they be a boy or a girl or transgender. What if all of a sudden your child decided that they were Muslim... would you expect the Catholic school to accommodate you then? No... you would attend a Muslim school or a school that would allow you to practice your own religion. Same goes for this situation. Unfortunately the road they are headed down will be a rough one, I'm glad they're parents are there for them 100%.
Some Christians, Catholics included think that they are above God, because he creates other animals that can change their gender/sexes naturally... But HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO CREATE HUMANS WHO DO SO PSYCHOLOGICALLY OR SPIRITUALLY.
Removing gender from I.D. Forms. You have got to be freakin kidding me?! You people need to get real help. Quit forcing your sickness upon the sane people of the world. We in the majority shouldn't have to bend to comfort you.
These girls are so precious and I am so proud of them for being so strong! I'm also glad that they have happy, supportive families! I wish the whole world could be supportive, but there will always be some jerks among the good guys.
A clinical psychologist who is an expert in the field of child psychology and behavior, and has observed/studied many cases of Gender identity problems in childhood. The majority of cases grew out of it. They went through puberty, and by 16 were happy with their born gender and sexual orientation. You are calling these boys, girls. Like its an open and shut case. Clearly they are boys playing dressup. Encouraged by their parents even. To misdiagnose this and put children on hormone blockers would be tragic and criminal. It has been proven to be a childhood behavior that is grown out of. Most cases, end up enjoying their born gender.
You know what, you are treating it as a closed case too. Do not tell me what I'm doing like it's a huge deal if you're going to do the exact same thing. These girls, regardless of who they may develop into in the future, ARE STILL GIRLS, even if just in the moment. And treating them like an abomination for exploring their gender will only oppress them and do them a great deal of psychological damage. Besides, I would absolutely love to see your sources on this, because I swear to you that I could match them with equal and better sources of studies they did proving these girls are fine. There is actual medical science behind this showing that the brains and hormone levels of people who are transgender or other marginalized gender identities are that of the gender (or lack of or combination of) that they identify with. In the case of these young girls, it can be medically proven that their psychological state and mental and medical states are that of their identity.
illogicalArtifact They are not girls. They are boys. Only a biased mind with an agenda would not acknowledge this. Playing dressup or pretend is quite common. If a human dresses up as a lion......It is not a lion. It is a human dressing up as a lion. I have seen a 12 year old girl pretending she was a horse. To the extent of galloping through a series of horse jumps. She was quite good at it. But nobody suggested she was a horse trapped in a humans body.
You are equating a gender, which is very real, to illogical and irrelevant things. As someone who follows psychology closely and almost religiously, I can guarantee you in all medical and psychological standpoints you are incorrect. Scientific studies done on children have proven that transgenderism is a real and urgent thing. Would you have these girls suffer for not being able to be themselves? Can you honestly be so cruel and awful to the point where you would cause a little girl pain by taking away her identity? What is your gender? Imagine everyone tried to force you to be the opposite of that, and only recognized you as the opposite of that. Any time you tried to explain what your gender was, everyone turned you away and denied it. That is what had been happening to these poor children. And if you can't suck it up and grin and bear it, against your beliefs or not, just to make a little girl's day, then in all honestly, you do not deserve to have or be around kids.
Besides, commenting on MY comment of support, which was in no way imposing on you or anyone else, shows you just have a problem. If you can't get over yourself long enough to overlook a positive and encouraging message, maybe you should take some time to evaluate how you're living and fix something, hun.
I even don't see why do they have to struggle like that. I mean if they want to be girl or boy, just let them be what they want. Their wish to be girl or boy doesn't affect anyone's life, doesn't hurt people so why is it so difficult for them to be themselves. I find that the most scary thing in the world is the way the society look at us, judge us when we are different in the way it is not supposed to be, but not everything different in that way is a bad thing. Accept it, world. Love is acceptance, that is so true
Tracie, Harriet, you live in a world the you frighten. The communities and schools are fearful that you bring uncertainty into a system they all thought they had figured out. Seeing you makes them have questions about society, God and even biology. They thought they knew what was/is right. You've shown them and us that we may not know what's right. Stay strong girls.
These poor girls. I wish the best for them. I’m a cisgender girl, and if someone made my hair short and gave me a suit and tie and forced me to play with trucks, I’d be, “No! I’m a girl!” That’s kind of how I try to understand it. It must be so frustrating.
Trans people are supposedly supported, and yet we’re denied our rights to be happy and ourselves because it doesn’t suit society and other people. BS,! Why do I have to cry myself to sleep, why do I feel the need to not drink no matter how thirsty I am out of fear of needing the bathroom!. Why should I have to feel the need to disappear and die when all I want is acceptance and not death. -Zaky T from England
i'm catholic I don't get why people say god loves everyone but then they also say god hates gay, trans ect, so if god loves everyone it should mean he also loves people who r gay, trans ect
Teressa Prince leanne lee Too bad those like you two are few. How much of the Bible do you two believe? I'm pretty sure that a lot of the Bible was written by man with no divine inspiration, like the part about men laying with other men as with a woman.
I was a tomboy, too. I wore boys' clothes, played with boys' toys, had mostly boy friends. But I knew I was a girl; I identified as female. I never actually wanted to BE a boy. That's the difference.
Transgender kids are not "issues", transgender kids are not "mistakes". God made us all and loves us all. Period. He didn't make us to all be the same. I'm a bisexual Christian and I believe if God didn't want me this way, he wouldn't have made me this way. People are transgender because they're meant to be transgender. If God didn't want us "mistakes" and "issues" here, he wouldn't have let us exist at all in the first place. We're all the way we are for a reason.
They are just beautiful girls ... can't even understand why it can be a discussion to just let them be who they are. Love and acceptance in the church? In church you're only loved and accepted if you fit in their vision. So I am glad to go to hell ... all the great people are there :)
19:20 "Im not saying nobody else isnt special Dont wanna start a riot" lol she is so cute! My heart breaks for these GIRLS and thier families. NOTHING is that SIMPLE humans are the furtheset thing from SIMPLE @the Drunken Clam
Part of the problem is that until recently we didn't realized there is a difference between social gender and genetic gender. Many still don't understand this concept. And most people are not aware that genetically there are more than two genders as well based on how many X and Y chromosomes there are.
The thing I don't understand about gender identity is that it is not biological, genetic or hereditary, it is a human invention based on our human experience. Sex is biological, that you cannot change. No one can infuse themselves with y chromosomes or get rid of them, but I guess I just feel like the debate of whether someone feels like a boy or girl puts too much importance on gender identity and roles. A woman should be able to engage in activities and roles which men have traditionally engaged in and vice versa while not having to be ashamed of they way they were born. I think that if the only way you feel you can be yourself is to change your body, then.. I don't really understand.
well the thing is that we actually can change our sex! in fact if you talked to most transgender adults they would tell you that they are uncomfortable with their BODIES not their GENDER. the modern understanding of what constitutes "sex" actually includes many other factors besides your chromosome (i.e. fat distribution, bone structure, hair growth, ability to carry a child, etc. etc.), so when a trans person undergoes hrt or get's any of the other related treatments we understand that as changes their person's "sex". idk if that answers your question at all! :3
It answers some questions, but what about the concept that it's not what's on the outside that counts, but rather who you are as a person? Does that change anything for some people? I guess what I am saying is should people treat you any differently when they perceive you as a guy or girl? Do they? How do changing your body make you feel more like how your mind feels?
You are quite wrong - many, many thousands of people are born 'intersexed' - about 1% of live births - where they are genetically neither male or female, and have very ambiguous genitalia. This is of course an outward, physical sign - but there are psychological signs as well, particularly as they grow up. This has prompted some countries to have a third 'sex' classification available to intersex people should they so wish to identify as such. Australia, Argentina and some European countries like Spain have three gender classes 'M', 'F' & 'X' as choices for legal status and is included in official documents such as passports. Gender identity disorder, which applies to these children here, is a recognised medical condition from which people suffer and rightly treatment is available. It is certainly not 'shameful', the world really is not as narrow as you appear to see it!
God dose not make mistakes he is perfect by these boys and there parents are making big mistakes and gender should be on your birth certificate this world is becoming sick and full of evil and I will not get the sickness everyone else is getting and most people are just push overs and that why they agree with this
I was a patient at a hospital once after a suicide attempt. The nurse put me in a room with a male roommate. When I complained they ignored me and gave me anti-anxiety pills. I tried everything I could think of and they still ignored all the suffering they were causing. Eventually my parents showed up and straightened everything out. The nurse was moved off the unit and nearly lost her job. It's one thing to read scientifically illiterate things on the internet. It's quite another to have someone who should care for you abuse you psychologically. There's only one way I can sum up what that was like: I felt raped. And don't tell me that's an unfair comparison or that I'm denigrating rape victims. One of the male patients had to be removed from the ward because of the way he talked to the women (many of whom were rape survivors). He actually went so far as to try and feel up one of my friends. I could have been stuck in a room with him. If what happened to me had happened to an anatomically female woman, no one would question her feeling violated in the way I did.
i've also dressed as girls in my childhood days just for fun. but now i've grown out of it. my parents didnt suspect me of being transgender because they dont know anything about it. i know im NOT transgender. i was just curious. there days over educated parents push even small things like dressing up / make up as transgender and brainwash their children that they are transgender in an age when the child cant even understand what gender is. i think parents should wait for atleast for 10 to 12 years than to force their assumptions on their innocent children.
@richard how you are so sure ? i dont think so. i said my own example. what if my parents thought that im a transgender and bombarded me with books and materials about transgender. there is a very high chance that i've become confused with my gender. i think gender is constructed by society. if people deviate from preset gender stereotype people automatically assume that they are transgender . im not sure. im not a scholar. just speculating..
Well God doesnt make mistakes because hes not even classified as "everybody" hes above that, but I dont think he hates Gays and etc. I think he loves everyone soo and im christian and i dont hate them so
Kyndall Beautyx i'm not against people who believe in 'god' , i would just like to see some proof and for people to stop trying to shove it down peoples necks if they don't believe. And of course he make mistakes, he killed his own son for crying out loud.
it doesn't matter what you were born as. Everyone tells us to be ourselves, but when we do that, and people don't like it, they tell us to stop like, that makes 0 sense. I was born a girl and I am what some people call " gender questioning" I don't care what anyone says I am who I am
"God doesn't make mistakes"? Okay, being transgender IS NOT a mistake. It's not "mismatched". It's just one kind of person. Trans people have always existed, there's nothing wrong with it, it's not an accident. We need to kill this thought, and learn how to use different language when referring to trans people. It's easy to understand the idea of a "girl in a boy's body"- but if she's a girl, then it's not a "boy's body". It's her body. it's a girl body. Regardless of the parts. Parts are just parts. Sex and gender are different, and they don't have to be the same.
Awww, what sweet parents to support their kids. My niece is a boy in a girl's body, and she was born like that. The creator made us all so let Her/Him be the judge.
these two girls are incredibly smart... i cant believe that they've been through so much at just ten years old! i hope they live their life in happiness and freedom..
Having a son that grew up playing with dolls( barbies) and dressing up in his sisters clothes, he grew up trying to find out who he was. i could accept that he became gay but the day he told me that he wanted to be a girl shocked me, and i still cant come to terms with it,even more so changed his name 😱. Why cant he accept himself as he is? so now hes in the process of transgendering into a female. They say that its having too many female hormones instead of having male hormone balance. vice versa for born females. Still cant get my head around it.
when thinking about transgenderism it's helpful to use multiple personality disorder as a frame of reference as though not identical there are many parallels and it hasn't been politicized yet.
I am a transgender woman and I'll try explaining it. Nobody knows the exact cause of transgenderism, but we know that it is innate (i.e you are born with it). It is not something that you acquire, as many people think. Nor does it have anything to do with sexual orientation (i.e. who you are attracted to). The most plausible theory that I've heard of is that it is caused by the masculinization process of fetuses being interrupted (as all fetuses are female until the XY ones masculinize from a testosterone bath within the womb), meaning that the brain is not fully masculinized and therefore is still wired to receive estrogen(the main female hormone) instead of testosterone(the main male hormone), meaning that when puberty starts, the brain starts going crazy because it's getting the wrong hormones. This is why hormone replacement therapy almost completely removes gender dysphoria, since it gives the brain the correct hormones. Transgenderism is something we are born with, and does not go away with time,no matter how much we try to pretend it isn't there. It is not a product of today's society or social/cultural Marxism etc, it cannot be acquired. Transition is the best treatment we currently have, and your daughter has realised this and started transitioning. Message me if you have any more questions :)
We do know what creates transgender.... It's at eight to ten weeks gestation the female babies body is starting to form it's second fazr of gender. This is when a sudden and wrong burst of the opposite gender hormone is sent rushing through the little fetus and mistakenly created a penis rather than the vaginal opening. This is fact and can be seen in medical journals of credible countries. Don't think because you say it's not real that it makes it so. Just like when a baby is formed without limbs...it doesn't make them a potato it makes them a baby lol. My point is if one thing can go wrong so can others.
Children are know to play dress-up and pretend. I have seen Many, Many boys dressup as girls in early childhood for fun. And animals as well. They almost always grow out of it, go through puberty and are attracted to girls sexually. A child lacks the life experience, and hasnt gone through puberty to make such a Major life decision. The boys in this video are not having fantasies of Men sexually. The are playing dress-up. They are not gay. They are not homosexual. Going through puberty and gaining life experience is the only way to determine this. To put a child on hormone blockers, hormone treatment or even a sex change is nonsense. No lawyer or psychologist would suggest such a thing. You cannot drink alcohol until you are 21. You cannot have sex until you are 16. Yet you are able to have sex change when you are 10.
I just wanted to say that one has to be 18 before they can get a sex change. I would love to get into why your other points are also wrong but I get the feeling by your comment that you wouldn't listen to them. But even you can't find a link where a 10 year old has had a sex change. They may start living as the other gender at but no sex change. In full disclosure a couple of people have convinced a surgeon to do the surgery before 18 but those are very few.
Mark Clink Hormone blockers, not sex change. I dont really care. I just put in my two cents. I listened to what a clinical psychologist, an expert in this field had to say, and She said that most cases grow out of it. They go through puberty, and end up happy with their born gender and sexual orientation. Therefore my personal opinion, is it would be tragic to misdiagnose a child, and put it on hormone blockers.
Nahanee Davidson See that is why hormone blockers are used. The blockers gives the child time to decide if they will grow out of it. If they do then the blockers are stopped. If they they don't the child keeps taking the blockers and then hormones are used. What you are not understanding is that going through a puberty that you feel is not right is hell. I am not blaming for not understanding as the fact that you are questioning this tells me that you are not trans*. To me it would be more of mistake to not take the blockers but than again I have never felt like I was in the right body so my experience maybe biased as I know what it feels like to go through the wrong puberty.
Nahanee Davidson " my personal opinion, is it would be tragic to misdiagnose a child, and put it on hormone blockers." and... i'm assuming in your personal opinion, those few cases where these kids don't grow out of it, it wouldn't be as tragic if that child goes undiagnosed.. suffering through an unwanted puberty and ending up miserable with their newly aquired sexual characteristics they didn't want in the first place. Yeah, it certainly sounds like you don't care. but the purpose of hormone blockers is to pause puberty in case there was a misdiagnosis or he or she decides they want to develope according to their sex. I don't think you put a whole lot of thought in your opinion. Leave the worrying and problem solving to the doctors, psychologist, parents , patients, and those who actually care, who are knowledgeable about the situation who are able to critically think, your 'two cents,' if it's even worth that, isn't needed.
I just wanted to interject and say that sexual orientation and gender are not always correlated. I think our society has created extremely narrow narratives to people who are transgender so we assume that is always the case. However there are so many types of sexualities. I think it's just part of your identity like if you're extrovert, or introvert. What do you think is the most confusing part about understanding transgenders?
As a Christian you are called to love all people, regardless of their background. The head minister of the Catholic school clearly did not exhibit that, which made me sick to my stomach. Anyone else feel that way?
If parents with a child who was born with a severe birth defect that killed 40% of people who have it came to that pastor and said "we're not getting it fixed because this is what God wanted" he'd say they were nuts. But fixing trans people's bodies to help them avoid suicide is "wrong."
I've watched a brief amount of this clip (so this could be covered) but I think a young boy wearing pink fairy wings and wanting to wear dresses doesn't necessarily mean he wants to be a girl. I think people very often confuse societal stereotypes for gender with actual personal identity to gender. In reality, there's not much difference in the identity without the societal ideals.
Yeah, there are probably girls in the jungle who don't know what pink fairy wings are. I doubt they spend much time worrying about pink fairy wings. They probably don't want high heel shoes that get stuck in mud, either.
Yes, but there are boys in jungles who want to be girls. There are trans girls and women (born biologically male) who don't like "girly" stuff, just as there are girls born girls who would rather play with tractors and toy guns. I do think, though, if your brain tells you you are a certain gender (whether your genitals agree or not), there is a tendency to gravitate toward whatever your culture says is "feminine" or "masculine." Those kids living in the jungle understand that there are males and females just as well as we do, they just express those states differently.
Melanie Greenwood I think that's an interesting point, but I don't necessarily believe it to be valid. I'm a woman and identify as so, but I've always gravitated towards what society would call masculine ideals. I have short hair that is partly shaved, I have somewhat masculine affectations and I only ever wear pants and shirts (I don't wear dresses). I also have very feminine friends (who wear dresses and have long hair and fit into the female stereotype) but who ride motorcross bikes and practice karate and fighting sports. I just think there's too much of a need to put things into categories - people aren't that simplistic.
I have grown up as the same I identified myself as a female, but my family told me otherwise, wanted me to be the gender I was assigned so there was alot of confusion and hold backs, until my late 20's was when I was finally getting my family to understand that I was transgender and a female, yet there are still hold backs and a lot more I would like to change even the scars on my wrists say the same thing, be free, be who you really are heck its only a letter on ID's and birth certificates, its only two extra letters in the full name and yes I am a true Female! and I find comfort and happieness in that, its not a fantasy, its not a fetish, its none of that its matching my mind with my body as much as I possibly can, despite my 5 oclock shadow I myself will be as clean shaven as much as possible, be as feminine as possible, from the scent I give off, to how I dress. I say deal with it! you may look and talk with yourselves but dont confront me and be rude.
If i feel like i am a lion, and i act like one does that mean that i am a beautiful lion and everyone should look at me as such???No that means i have a mental disability that needs to be treated as such...
Goku AKA Kakarot did you know, at birth, your sex is defined, but the gender in the brain can sometimes not my synced with the physical sex. so in fact, it's completely valid that these girls genders is female despite their physical sex. it's science.
No one of us are the same. We can't all fit into gender norms and tiny boxes that society puts us in. Were all like colors. There's not just one form of red, there's different shades of red, just like there's different shades of people. It's time for bus to realize that and move on.
My friend also identifies as a ftm transgender, and since he told me I've started using male or gender neutral pronouns and stopped calling him "Person" as a nickname, so I wouldn't have to refer to him by the very feminine name he was given at birth. I do this to show my support, because everyone deserves someone on their side to have their backs. In this small way, I hope to show them that no matter what they are my friend, and if nothing else they can trust me and bw themself around me.
U know heroin feels amazing, should we just be ok with people shoving needles on their arm cause it makes them "feel" better? The answer is no, not everything that "feels" good is good. In fact many things that "feel" good destroy us because the feeling deceives us. The fact that trans folks continue to alter and mutilate their bodies in order to be happy is a sign of a serious mental instability, because they obviously aren't satisfied in their own skin. A child could see that there's a problem here and the solution isn't to allow people to mutilate themselves to the point that there is no going back.
"God doesn't make mistakes" So first of all, they are referring to us as mistakes. Second, how can you even base your opinion off something that hasn't been proven. You don't know if there is a god. Why does everyone have to disagree with this. These girls are 10 years old. Are they personally hurting you? No, they're not. So just let them fucking live their lives and be happy like normal people. We all have an equal shot at life. I thought my country would be more accepting.
No, Reed Lazar. God didn't make a mistake he just made these children different. A dig your gonna say something like " oh you guys aren't being supportive" than this video isn't the one for you, sir. With all due respect.
+Olaf Frozenman I think he's trans as well. I'm not sure tho that's how I read his comment. I wish I could have transitioned at a younger age. My parents would have never allowed it
***** There is no such thing as transitioning sorry buddy. You're the same sex when you die as you were when you were born. This is called reality please join us.
_He's_ not referring to you as mistakes, _you_ are. If your right, your body is a mistake. If your wrong, your mind is a mistake. Your not hurting me unless I have to call a man a woman which can trigger anxiety from having to breaking the normal established facts of biology or the English language to make _you_ feel good about yourself.
Remove gender from passports and birth certificates?? oh come on now this is absolutely ridiculous! I'm open to hear these people out but that request is ludicrous.
+ConcreteAngelx3 Hmm Idk why I thought this was "ludicrous" 9 months ago lol... I still think gender/sex should not be removed from birth certificates though but I wouldn't say it's a ridiculous thought
Actually the definition of gender is the state of being male or female typically used with social and cultural differences rather than biological ones the guy who said transgender people don't exist is wrong
My name is max. I am a trans boy. I love dressing up nice for school. but because i cant be open about my gender i dress as a girl. Which leaves people doubting my gender. Just a reminder, ones outwordly appearence does not define ones gender!
The parishioners at my Catholic church still call me Bethany, not James, and it really bugs me. I'd love to get back into the church but I want to be accepted for who I am. I can't live a lie.
Every time Tracy's mom refers to her daughter with male pronouns, it just breaks my heart. I am gender non-binary, so watching this just speaks to me. :,)
+karen dunn well my friend, I'm sorry to report but you too will in fact see God one day. in fact, you will get on your knees and worship Him as the only one true God cry, then you will be thrown into hell along with all the other people who denied God here on earth. that is truth! a parent allowing a child to change gender is equivalent to sending your child to hell. The sadness that is the whole today ....
+Shteena M Sorry but no-one is "allowing" their child to change gender. They are simply allowing the child to live life as the gender they've always been. Refusing to do so would be child abuse - there is a reason that over 40% of transgendered youth attempt suicide (the norm for all teenagers is about 4%). The biggest single reason? Their parents don't accept them for who and what they are.
Sam Adams how can a child just decide to wanna be the opposite gender??? Children need parents to make decisions for them. They kill themselves because it's the devil getting into their heads, brainwashing them that they shud be the opposite sex. The Devils #1 plan is to seek, kill & destroy. So when there are vulnerable ppl, the devil gets in. Don't be fooled, it's chromosomes that define gender, not feelings!!!! Have these children seen their DNA? That's right no they haven't. You wanna belive in science, that's your most absolute answer: science and DNA. Can't deny that even apart from God.
sasha01198 God wud not create kids in a 'wrong' body to test their neighbor in how great their love is. Ppl just wanna believe whatever 'feels' best for them & never actually consider truth.
None of you people who are against this have any idea of what it feels like emotionally, mentally or physically to have this issue, and shameful that even though we've claimed to evolved, we have a primitive mindset. People have a right to freely express themselves, and for children, this issue is not something they can control or change. It's the people like you, Drunken Clam, who causes people to have even further issues, such as suicidal thoughts and actions. It's not something controllable, not a joke, not something to ignore or hide. Just get over yourselves and wake up. This is the 21st century. People are speaking up, don't mute them.
No one has the right to tell you your gender. If they can’t see one soul, I have been out 23 years had surgery 14 years ago to save my life. I’m a 64 year old woman and happy that’s the first four decades of my life hiding my truth, destroyed, my health, mentally and physically.
I love those kids because of how understanding they are about the subject and they know who they wanna be and it just makes me so happy to see how strong they are I jusT LOVE THEM
The part that bothers me about this video is when they consider it as a disorder! I feel there is nothing wrong with being a Transgender. I am personally not a Transgender but I support everyone the way they are and don't care!
Alexx Awkward As Duck Don't let anyone tell who to be and how to think. The haters are delusional for their misunderstanding. I wish you guys the best and hope that you will have happiness in your lives.....GOOD LUCK.
I did not mean it that way. What I meant by that is that I can't go back in time at a young age and start the transition. I did not meant it to come off that. It is never too late, young, middle age, old. Transitioning doesn't need a certain age to do it, you can do it any time.
I don't mean this about EVERY Catholic or Christian person, but let's just say that I am NOT SURPRISED that Tracy's parents did NOT get the love and acceptance they expected from the Catholic community that TALKS ( a big talk) about love and acceptance. Ive seen those double standards OVER AND OVER again. They will love and accept you AS LONG AS you are doing everything their way! ITS LAUGHABLE!
No kid would just "choose" to be a different gender! It's obviously not a choice. No one would choose to face discrimination. So therefore, no one should tell people what they are and aren't. Only you know what you are.
and here it is, 10 years after this episode aired, and transgender children are now illegal in 26 states! CPS is called by people who have neighbors that have transgender children to take them away from those "abusive parents".
It makes me sick, and I'm ashamed to know that my state is one of those 26 backward looking states. I recently called out my governor, lieutenant governor and Congressman in an email with several points they just don't seem to give a damn about regarding what the transgender youth face and deal with every day, and their bullshit certainly isn't helping them, only making matters worse! I doubt my emails to them actually reached them, probably got deleted by some underling censoring everything going to their offices.
15:50 - If what he says should keep any merit, then Moses shouldn't have freed the slaves, because they were born slaves, not free. Jesus should not have healed the sick or turned the water into wine, because God did not want one form change into another.
AMEN. Also, if "God doesn't make mistakes about the way you were born," what about conjoined or parasitic twins? What about other birth defects? Should medical intervention be denied to such babies because they're "the way God intended"?
amazing point!!!!
marhoekful So true.
Melanie Greenwood Amazing point!!!!!!
Kami Renee Melanie Greenwood Fundamentalist Christians dont see the world that way. My Jehovah's Witness neighbour at the top my street wont use mobile phone again because she sent a text message once and apparently the recipient didnt get it. My mum thinks that she cant have children because of Reproductive Problems but I think she cant have children (the JW neighbour) because they had sex ONCE and didnt fall pregnant.
"Some people say support your child, let them live their life. Others say don't do that, that's the worst thing for your child."
Is there even a question what should be done?? Supporting your child is the ONLY way to handle being a parent to someone.
+isabeau lewis Those that say "don't do it" are very much in the minority and are basing their arguments on faulty and/or outdated research.
Sam Adams
I know that, my point was the ridiculousness of that statement...
24:30 So she and her parents are shock that a Catholic school will follow the teaching of the Catholic Church? Even if you do not agree with the teaching of the Catholic Church, you should NOT be surprise that a Catholic School with follow the teachings of the Catholic Church. Actually, you should totally expect Catholic schools to follow the teachings of the Catholic Church.
So much ignorance in the comment section that it makes me sad. How are they in any way hurting you? Who are you to tell these girls that they are living their life wrong?
+Justine Stylinson Hello Justine. Just wanted to say you are 100% correct and that they aren't hurting anyone and no one has the right to tell them they are living a life that is "wrong". There is a saying: "Do not judge anyone else until you have walked a mile in their shoes". Not the original phrase but you understand what that means right? Anyways, as far as the comments, lots of stupid people in the world. You learn to laugh at them and know you are right as you get older. Most people can't be reasoned with because they don't use common sense or reason but emotion or what their wacked out parents believe. Laugh Justine. Learn to laugh because life is too short to be sad. :oD
right. its like how is this affecting u...mind ur biz ppl
No, they are not hurting me or others in any way, but that does not mean I and others can't raise doubts about what they are doing. If you believe that someone is going down a destructive path, would you not feel obligated to say something? In this case, I'm not sure if you can change your gender and if that is good/heathy, which is why I discuss with others to get closer to an answer.
If you have to raise doubt than you are being ignorant no matter which way you look at it!!!!
"God doesn't make mistakes." Has he even read the bible? Noah's ark was literally God nopeing out, and re-starting.
God doesn't make mistakes. God is able to anything, I honestly disapprove what their doing.
Olaf Frozenman It's absolutely fine to think that, as long as you continue to be respectful towards others opinions on the matter.
He meant in gender, i don't accept gay,transgender or anything because of my religion but if i see a person like that i won't judge them, i won't make fun of them i will just not pay attention and let them live their life, but in the bible it states man and women and not man and man or women and women so i cannot accept it but i have always told everyone love is love so i am neutral.
Danna Olvera I'm just gonna say that you're being a huge hipocrite but each to their own m80 you live your life.
+Kayson Is Fabulous im just saying what i think.
I hate how the dads always complain about how hard it was for them. Do you even realize what your child is going through?
exactly..
Kyra Bell #Splutters!!
"How could you not love your own child... just saying..." Best line of the video lol. The way she said it just made me smile.
well they mentally confused his gender. Quite literally. So a grasp on reality he may not have. When he figures out reality and comes to the realization he was born. And he had no choice. And no matter how much you visualize it as different than what it is. It's not. you're either born as the majority of normal male-female. Or nonnormal like a hermaphrodite. For something that nature. Normal as in being regular occurrence. Such as a male or female baby. Once he figures out science is real. And your concepts can be abstract. I think he will be mad at the ones who directed them down the path of your imagination is reality. see I found out the 70s they defunded mental hospitals. And released a lot of mentally ill people in the population. Very scary.
Haha Tracy is hilarious! "Just sayin..." "not trying to start up a riot..."
I never understand why haters insist 'it's a choice - change it!!' - can they not SEE all the pressure and rejection these young children have to face? Very very few ADULTS could face that amount of hate and pressure - so that these children feel THAT strongly that they lose friends, school, EVERYTHING - should be proof enough it's not a 'choice'. What amazingly courageous young women. They have a huge amount to offer society and they have the right to be treated fairly. Cos how the hell can it affect anyone else if they wear a girls school uniform???!!!
Well said. I hate to be rude, but there's no other way to say this, those people who say it's a choice are pure idiots.
Very true. To all the "haters" out there, if being gay is a choice then right now, choose it. Can u do it? Can u force yourself to like the same gender? Didn't think so.
Queen Bee Exactly!! Also, why would we *choose* to live a life worrying about discrimination and violence?? I don't understand how people can think that gender and sexuality are a choice.
There's nothing hateful about the truth. If anything, people who promote this sickness and self mutilation are the hateful ones.
+Jeremiah Johnson sorry but sex and gender are not the same thing. While people do use the terms interchangeably in common speech the medical and scientific communities differentiate between the two.
www.med.monash.edu.au/gendermed/sexandgender.html
I'm too young to understand why people dislike this
@Robin they fear what they find hard to understand sweetheart!
Just remember to keep an open mind and attempt to understand how and why otters may feel, look or act differently than you. That is the best way to overcome our differences.
So much for a 10 year old to worry about. However, they appear to be so mature for their age. Great parents for accepting them and loving them for who they are not what their parents wish them to be.
marhoekful Yes scientifically proven medically safe hormone blockers. This delays the onset of puberty and gives the child time to better determine the path they wish their life to take. Puberty as the wrong sex is utter hell for a trans person. You argue to putting healthy, happy kids through utter torment and hell for your own twisted ideology as to how others should be living their life. For shame.
marhoekful Paedophilia analogy? Really? Serous? I hope you never have kids. You clearly have no ability to listen to the needs and desires of a child. As for psychologists or lawyers condoning this, they do condone this. A lot. Many, many trans kids have gone on hormone blockers with the aid of their gender therapists and the courts. Many have now grown up into happy and productive adults.
Who are you to dictate to others how they should be living their life? You sound as though you would be quite happy to stand back and let young trans boys and girls kill themselves because they have been denied access to the hormone blocking treatments (and later hormones) that can improve the quality of their life dramatically.
All this because YOU don't like the idea, as if you know anything about it. You wouldn't know the first thing about being trans. Just another cis ignorant.
marhoekful Oh please. You've already been told that all blockers will do is delay the onset of puberty. If a mistake has been made (and it rarely is for the record) then the child will just go through puberty at an older age when they stop taking the blockers. In how many ways and how many times do you need to be told that hormone blockers are medically safe before it SINKS IN!!!
Oh here we go, you move from one ignorance to the next. Now it's about how boys are raised and that if they're raised wrong they'll want to be girls. Nevermind that parents will often actively discourage such behaviour out of social pressures to the detriment of the child.
Just accept that some girls are born with boy bodies and some boys are born with girl bodies. Jesus. You don't go through it yet you sit there acting like you know all about it.
marhoekful You're an ignorant twit, stuck on 'playing dress-up' idea, when while there are SOME who do that, many are genuinely born into a physical body which does not jive, does not match with their brain, their natural disposition of either male or female. NO one can force a child to be a boy/man if everything else (other than a penis) within the child is a female. Many parents try to ignore and or deny any kind of expression of femininity , thinking the child will 'outgrow' it. I read so many stories about transgenders, and some of them are so heartbreaking. Google: Leelah Alcorn . She was born with male body parts but knew as even a tiny child that she was a girl . Her religious mother was a monster, and made her life hell, telling her "God don't make mistakes" and punishing, and shaming her so bad that she went out and stepped in front of a semi truck on the Interstate----D E A D.....at 14 yrs of age. I hate that bigoted religious freak mother who drove that child to her death !
"I don't believe God makes mistakes." So, maybe you're right and God made this person the way they are to teach YOU that your beliefs are backwards and are actually against the teachings of Jesus and God.
Best response on here for real. +1!
maybe you should read the bible and see before you rant
Dream2Sing I have. Jesus is love. Jesus did not judge.
Or... maybe god doesn't exist?
God is real.
Being trans is okay, nothing wrong with that. What bothers me is the fact that there is a relationship with clothing. Clothing is clothing. There is no natural scientifically substantiated fact for boys and girls clothing and is therefore not tied to gender. You do not have to be or become trans to be able and allowed to wear certain types of clothing that are assigned to a gender based on stereotyping thoughts. Clothing is genderless! You don't have to be a girl to wear a skirt or dress, and you don't have to be a boy to wear pants. This also applies to jewelry, make-up and other things. This is a fabrication of our narrow society. Time for change and acceptance in the interests of happiness, freedom and humanity.
I dont agree that these are disorders. These are natural situations which we must socially accept.
Thank you for this comment
+David Dolly so natural that they DIDN'T EXIST 10 YEARS AGO
+NoobKiller Roof humans didn't exist millions of years ago when the planet first formed, so technically we don't exist, right? Flawed logic is flawed.
Ciao Sebastian so "hateful" to oppose a sick perversion being pushed on children
How can adults be so intolerant towards children???
first of all, gender and sex aren't the same. second, gender identity is NOT a "disorder"
i think they ment dysphoria. idk
The fact that they are so mean to these brave girls is discussing. They are amazing the way they wanna be, as a gender fluid person I can't describe how brave they are.
I have SO much respect for these girls. They are accepting and knowing who they are at a young age. And I applaud them for that.
Sick of people useing God as an excuse for hate! Im 52, i have been Trans since i was 4. So that shows im long before this new avalanche of folks coming out. Im also a Christian. To all of you that spout Gods name with hate, re read your Bible. God is love ot says, for God so loved the WORLD. He did not separate anyone!
If God made people one sex or the other, how do you explain hermaphrodites?
+FeelTheLack Nice point.....I'd like someone to explain that based on the Bible. :)
Good question. I'm curious to see this answered as well.
+FeelTheLack I'm intersex (please don't use "hermaphrodite") and there are verses that mention us in passing as being totally okay (using extremely old terminology but it still checks out). I'm also a transman. I'd cite them, but I'm currently dealing with kidney issues and don't have my desktop computer where I have everything bookmarked, because I'm not at home.
Not as rare as you'd think, most people who are intersex don't know that they are until a medical issue arises. Some go their entire lives without knowing, until an autopsy is performed.
It's not just genitalia - it can be internal such as internal testes or ovaries, it can be excess androgens or estrogen. It can be present only chromosomally, such as having XXY or XYY chromosomes. All of these (usually) don't present anything that would cause an average doctor to genetically test you. It took nearly two decades of my life to get anywhere with doctors.
if God doesnt make mistakes tell me why are people born with a handicap or malformations? i dont get it
Exactly.
Stuff like this makes me mad. I am know as a girl with girl parts but I know I'm transgender. I would love to be a guy and have guy parts.
Anyway, if God doesn't makes mistakes then.....why are there even transgenders in the first place?
supercountryboy1999 Not always the case.
supercountryboy1999 That's not all dude, *Cough* Dumbass *Cough*
PitchTheWitch, hahaha that don't affend me and I find that funny!
supercountryboy1999 I find your comment funny for being a dumbass ^^ Anyway, It's not like I was trying to offend you or anything xD STOP ASSUMING THINGS YOU'LL GET IT WRONG!
The lawyer, near the end of the clip, speaks total sense about the job of an adult being to listen carefully to the child. If only more adults took that view, half of the rubbish in this World would probably disappear. The two girls featured will face enough difficulties in their lives, they need our support, not condemnation.
Ive only just found this video. I am very interested to see where these kids are now?? Is there any follow up from this documentary?
I am change my transgender and being girl. My family disowned me. Been bully by my family my whole life. I love play with my doll and wear girl clothes and make me happy. Been depressed and crying everyday because people keep jump me all time for being different. My name is Courtney and need support in my life and need friends in my life.From Courtney
You're such a brave person! I wouldn't have made it. Keep strong, there are a lot of people that support you. And I know that what I'm gonna say is cruel, but if I were you, I would reject my family and continue living my life with the people that support me and love me for who I truly am. Stay strong :) Love, Alexandra.
it's how i feel sometimes, but i remain i the closet because im too afraid to say "im not a fucking boy!" to my parents. i don't want to be disowned as i always think, and most likely know it. im only 14, but i understand what's wrong and why im like this. when i was 5 i knew, but i shut up about it because i know it's something wrong with me. sorry for ranting, anyway, you need to be strong and every Transgender, Gay, Les, etc. needs to be strong for the people that loves them and the people they love too. Love Allyson
***** thank you so much
I wish you the best. I am transgender too, but like half devil I'm transmale (ftm, female to male) but haven't I haven't come out yet
Sara Knowlton that cool.
Mmm. These two children are/were only ten. They saw that a (girl) wears pink, dresses, high heels, jewelry, and make up, and a (boy) wears pants, likes trucks, and plays roughly with other boys. Trey/tracy, with his ten year old mind, realized that he didn't like rough housing, and he liked dresses, thus he came to the conclusion that he /must/ be a girl because, well, he liked what (girls) liked. However, the girl and boy categories mentioned above are mere stereotypes. There are girls out there that like the color yellow instead of pink. There are girls out there that prefer pants over dresses. There are girls out there that take pleasure in capturing bugs and playing video games. Do these external things make her a he? Of course not. These external likings, however, seem to define who someone is in nowadays society, and it deludes people. Boys don't have to always be aggressive. There are many boys out there that are sensitive and would rather sketch or dance opposed to shooting his first duck with a bb gun. Does this make him a girl? Of course not. Since when were dresses only designated for girls/women? A couple hundred years ago males wore dresses and nightgowns. Since when was blue a boy color and pink a girl color? It's mere preference. People like simplicity, so stereotypes are formed. Stereotypes confuse others, and the stereotype that trey/Tracy wasn't a boy because he didn't like "boy" things confused him. But ultimately in the end, he's still a boy who merely likes pink (just another color in the color spectrum), doesn't like aggressive rough housing, and likes shoes that higher situate your heel. These preferences don't suddenly make him a girl.
I'm sorry but you are wrong it is not about what a color a person likes. Listen to what they say when they see themselves as a girl or boy they are telling the truth. Liking a certain color or toy only serves to reinforce what they know who they are.
Sorry, but you are definately wrong here. You are confusing gender expression with gender identity. The media does not help this image, actually, because they always pick children who are more stereotypically feminine or masculine.
I am a transgender woman. I loved Star Wars, He-man and fighting boys. I hate pink, and really though Barbie was just trashy junk. I was a happy kid running around in my Spiderman Pygamas. I am not transgender because I liked those things. I am transgender because my brain was telling me I was a girl, and that my body was wrong.
PIcture me as a little golden haired, happy go lucky boy growing up on a farm in the middle of suburbia. This happy little kid, for no reason- and barely able to string together a sence, tried to cut off 'his' penis.
I was not because I was sickened or disturbed by it, my parents where great, caring and informative. It just didn't belong to me. I did it in a relaxed manner... I seriously thought it was like hair or fingernails... attached but not part of me and so it would not hurt. It wasn't mine. I wasn't supposed to have one, so I figured, hey... I will just trim it off. Problem sol...YOUCH! Turns out, it did hurt.
Then, as I hit my teenage years I got seriously depressed and nearly killed myself a couple of times. Reason? No idea, at the time. I felt horrible. My girlfriends say I was handsome, but I looked in the mirror and felt ill. No idea why.
Long story short, it turns out I was a victim of D.E.S. My brain developed female, as well as some internal things. I was not a boy.
Years later, when trying to find why I couldnt conceive, I got the news. Pretty freaking weird, but suddenly a whole life of weird little things I did made sense. Why I wanted to be princess leia, not luke. Why I fancied 'dykey' looking girls with short hair, why my social group was almost all girls.
Had I been given the right information at the right time, had the right health care, I could have had corrective hormones before puberty hit, and my life would not have been so confusing, dreadful and filled with suicidal thoughts. I would be the happy, healthy woman I am now. Only, I wouldn't have had to go through many hours of painful treatments to fix secondary sex characteristics and would have a twenties I could remember.
So spare a thought for these kids. They are not mentally ill, they have an intersex condition. They need treatment, and they are getting it. Leave them to take the best path.
What no! My younger sister bites, and loves trains. But hell she knows that she's a girl. When she was younger, she was far from the pink and purple girl. These kids are smarter than you think. It's not even on preference on clothes or taste but literally, they want to be mommies, have boobs get married, give birth and get periods. Which I would easily avoid. Furthermore. Kids that young know whether they are girl or boys. When I was 9, I overheard this conversation between my mom and her friend talking about how Thailand sometimes kidnap men and force them to change into girls. That gave me nightmares because I thought someone could do that to me and I didn't want to be a guy. I literally couldn't sleep for a week be
Because of that. So please. They are a lot brighter than what you gave them credits for.
I must ask -- have you ever stopped to wonder why there are so many transgender males in comparison to transgender females? I am, of course, not disqualifying girls in any way; there are many girls out there that feel they're really a boy, but I'm speaking in vast majority. I hypothesize its because a male's identity is largely taken on and learned, not inherently bestowed. In the womb, all children start out as female, and later on male genitalia develops. As the male infant grows after birth, little testosterone is present, and as you know, female children and male children share many similarities, such as high voices, same height, low stress tolerance, and so on. Male children need -- and I stress on 'need' -- a masculine, fatherly figure around to look up to and to take on that male identity -- they cannot learn it from women or other boys their age. With divorce rate so high nowadays and so many kid's living 90% of their lives surrounded by others the same immature age, it's no mystery why so many children are confused with what and who they are; of course I cannot extrapolate without evidence at my fingertips, but there is enough reason to assume. This also links with homosexuality and why many male homosexuals are quite, well, "feminine". It seems as though there was a disconnect with their male identity during childhood. I don't want to dig too deep into the subject of homosexuality because it's besides the point, but its just another example.
In essence, I have reason to believe these children are confused. If I grew up around parents that taught me everything was relative, and that I can be whatever I want to be -- male or female despite what's down there -- I'd be a very, very confused child. Sometimes -- no, a lot of the time children need guidance, especially at such a tender age when they are still developing. I call it irresponsible parenting to neglect the enlightenment of the most rudimentary basics. If I had a child and it had a male genitalia, I'd say, " Honey, you're a boy" and of course never confine him to society's stereotypes. I wouldn't, however, kiss my son on the forehead and seriously say, " Now honey, what's between your legs means nothing, okay? You be whatever you feel like."
Then my son would stare at me wide-eyed and tentatively inquire,
"You mean I can be like Hopper -- a frog?"
" 'Course."
It hurts my heart to know these children have to struggle like this. Everyone should be free to be who they are and what they want to be. It shouldn't be an issue at all.
I don't know why people feel so strongly against this, as long as they're good people, being raised to be productive adults in society and are kind, who cares what gender a person associates with regardless of what role in reproduction they're biologically programmed to play. And I'm a Christian, and I don't think God made a mistake here, he made all transgendered people perfect just as He did everyone. And He loves them!
krisscouture "I don't know why people feel so strongly against this"
because 200+ Trans* & nonbinary people have been murdered this year worldwide
andrewszombie Yes against, this is what I'm saying why do those people who murder hate so much, why do they feel so strongly against these people
It's transgender, not transgendered, I'm transgender and it's quite offensive
Thank you so much for saying this:)
I agree 100%
I'm MTF transgender too and I can really relate to this! I really hate it when people use the bible as a excuse to hate LGBT+. Honestly not everyone believes in god so they DON'T have to follow Bible says. Not to mention that there is no exact proof that he exists or not and we don't even know who wrote the Bible either so nobody should make anyone feel bad about themselves just because they think it's true! Also the Bible says that wearing clothing with more than one material and getting hair cuts are sins so we're all sinners so why does it even matter!? These people can believe as much as they like but no one should change their minds just because of a omnipotent being that we don't even know exists or not.
The irony is amusing considering that the LGBT is probably the most aggressive cult out there these days. The only difference is they call people bigots instead of sinners.
Frankly, the Christians are more reasonable because at least they have some evidence for what they believe.
Daniel Newman 1. Well if you're insulting us with your bible excuse then yes we will call you bigots. You're saying that you hate being called a bigot and yet you're being a bigot to us which make you a hypocrite! 2. We have evidence too! There are loads of scientific proof that LGBT exists and we already know it exists. Heck since we don't even know if god exists or not hating gays because the bible said so is like saying "Aliens came down to Earth to tell me to make up this argument." 3. Like I just said anybody that uses their god as a excuse to hate gays... just... don't even bother saying anything because their arguments are not going to change any of our views whatsoever.
No child or parent chooses to suffer the discrimination these beautiful children face daily. Good luck and God bless these parents who are fighting for these beautiful children to live their lives as they feel they are instead of living how society dictates they must. Xx
Only someone who doesn't experience gender dysphoria would say it isn't real or that it's just a choice. It has haunted me my whole life until it got to the point I couldn't endure it anymore, embraced the truth of who I am, and began my transition. It's the best decision I've ever made. My anger, anxiety and irritability have subsided tremendously, and I just feel balanced and sane for the first time. Being transgender isn't a delightful experience, but it's far healthier to live your life authentically than to repress who you are because of fear or denial. And it's nobody's place to decide what God's will is. It's quite clear that Nature makes mistakes all the time, and that has nothing to do with spirituality or some creationist rhetoric. The body does not determine its sense of identity anymore than a cup determines its contents or a musical instrument determines its own melody. It's just a vessel, and the vessel is not the soul.
Such wise little girls! "How could God not love something he created" These girls are gonna grow up to be AMAZING women!
They're fortunate their parents support them, as mine don't as much..
"God doesn't make mistakes." ORLY? How else do you explain birth defects, cancer, and other diseases? Are they creations of a "loving God"?
I can not tell you how much I agree with you.
The Bible says it’s because of sin that nature was corrupted and “thorns and thistles” entered the world. Romans 8:22 says, “We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.” In other words, nature longs for redemption to come and for things to be set right. That’s the source of disorder and chaos.
Let’s make this crystal clear once more: God did not create evil and suffering. Now, it’s true that he did create the potential for evil to enter the world, because that was the only way to create the potential for genuine goodness and love. But it was human beings, in our free will, who brought that potential evil into reality.
Soo boo-hoo you and stop blaming god.
The world is evil and and the evil ones will got to hell
loveme05
Did God not know that was going to happen? Is God really that inept? Is that why God repented ( נָחַם Genesis 6:6) of making man? Oh wait, God doesn't repent. Whoops. ( נָחַם Numbers 23:19 )
loveme05
Your a victim of mental abuse. You have bought into the circular talking used to manipulate good people like you into doing the will of a religious organisation. I hope that one day you will wake up and have a fullfilling, free, life of love and light.
There is no iron age hebrew god. He just does not exists. Look outside. There is an amazing universe full of diverse and brilliant things. Go learn about it. Stop buying into the bullshit. I challenge you to google contradictions in the bible and read them for one week. Just one week.
I noticed that Tracy and Harriet, other than the genitalia, still have feminine features. Even at the age 10, most boys would develop a masculine frame such as the broad shoulders, longer feet etc. Tracy and Harriet have smaller shoulders and smaller feet than boys their age. Jazz (founder of Purple Rainbow foundation) also had wider hips than boys BEFORE she took the blockers. A lot of people don't know that the pre-natal maturation of sex involves the development of other features before the genitalia. The genitalia is determined by the third trimester. It very possible that these girls could have biological blueprints making them feminine. NOTE. This is just my hypothetical observation. Don't yell at me.
Why does everyone have to give up the gender on their birth certificate just for a few, who are confused? Race and father's occupation aren't relevant, but how do you deny your genetic and chromosomal classification as male or female?
No trans person is saying to get rid of gender as someone who best friend's with a trans girl they just wanted to change there gender on there THERE birth certificate no one else's
amen
You can't expect to attend a Catholic school and expect them to change their rules that are based on their religion to accommodate your child whether they be a boy or a girl or transgender. What if all of a sudden your child decided that they were Muslim... would you expect the Catholic school to accommodate you then? No... you would attend a Muslim school or a school that would allow you to practice your own religion. Same goes for this situation.
Unfortunately the road they are headed down will be a rough one, I'm glad they're parents are there for them 100%.
Some Christians, Catholics included think that they are above God, because he creates other animals that can change their gender/sexes naturally... But HE IS NOT ALLOWED TO CREATE HUMANS WHO DO SO PSYCHOLOGICALLY OR SPIRITUALLY.
I love how the narrator use the proper pronouns! In american stories the narrators pretty much always use the wrong pronouns
I am surprised by how many close minded people live in western world.
Removing gender from I.D. Forms. You have got to be freakin kidding me?! You people need to get real help. Quit forcing your sickness upon the sane people of the world. We in the majority shouldn't have to bend to comfort you.
These girls are so precious and I am so proud of them for being so strong! I'm also glad that they have happy, supportive families! I wish the whole world could be supportive, but there will always be some jerks among the good guys.
A clinical psychologist who is an expert in the field of child psychology and behavior, and has observed/studied many cases of Gender identity problems in childhood. The majority of cases grew out of it. They went through puberty, and by 16 were happy with their born gender and sexual orientation. You are calling these boys, girls. Like its an open and shut case. Clearly they are boys playing dressup. Encouraged by their parents even. To misdiagnose this and put children on hormone blockers would be tragic and criminal. It has been proven to be a childhood behavior that is grown out of. Most cases, end up enjoying their born gender.
You know what, you are treating it as a closed case too. Do not tell me what I'm doing like it's a huge deal if you're going to do the exact same thing. These girls, regardless of who they may develop into in the future, ARE STILL GIRLS, even if just in the moment. And treating them like an abomination for exploring their gender will only oppress them and do them a great deal of psychological damage.
Besides, I would absolutely love to see your sources on this, because I swear to you that I could match them with equal and better sources of studies they did proving these girls are fine. There is actual medical science behind this showing that the brains and hormone levels of people who are transgender or other marginalized gender identities are that of the gender (or lack of or combination of) that they identify with. In the case of these young girls, it can be medically proven that their psychological state and mental and medical states are that of their identity.
illogicalArtifact They are not girls. They are boys. Only a biased mind with an agenda would not acknowledge this. Playing dressup or pretend is quite common. If a human dresses up as a lion......It is not a lion. It is a human dressing up as a lion. I have seen a 12 year old girl pretending she was a horse. To the extent of galloping through a series of horse jumps. She was quite good at it. But nobody suggested she was a horse trapped in a humans body.
You are equating a gender, which is very real, to illogical and irrelevant things. As someone who follows psychology closely and almost religiously, I can guarantee you in all medical and psychological standpoints you are incorrect. Scientific studies done on children have proven that transgenderism is a real and urgent thing. Would you have these girls suffer for not being able to be themselves? Can you honestly be so cruel and awful to the point where you would cause a little girl pain by taking away her identity? What is your gender? Imagine everyone tried to force you to be the opposite of that, and only recognized you as the opposite of that. Any time you tried to explain what your gender was, everyone turned you away and denied it.
That is what had been happening to these poor children. And if you can't suck it up and grin and bear it, against your beliefs or not, just to make a little girl's day, then in all honestly, you do not deserve to have or be around kids.
Besides, commenting on MY comment of support, which was in no way imposing on you or anyone else, shows you just have a problem. If you can't get over yourself long enough to overlook a positive and encouraging message, maybe you should take some time to evaluate how you're living and fix something, hun.
"I'm not saying nobody else is special, no thank you" That was precious omg
child abuse
Idiot
NoobKiller Roof
letting a child be themselves is not abuse. it's love.
Michaela Suorsa You want them to be something they aren't, you are sick
It just makes me sad when people say that they shouldn't be who they want to be.
I even don't see why do they have to struggle like that. I mean if they want to be girl or boy, just let them be what they want. Their wish to be girl or boy doesn't affect anyone's life, doesn't hurt people so why is it so difficult for them to be themselves. I find that the most scary thing in the world is the way the society look at us, judge us when we are different in the way it is not supposed to be, but not everything different in that way is a bad thing. Accept it, world. Love is acceptance, that is so true
Tracie, Harriet, you live in a world the you frighten. The communities and schools are fearful that you bring uncertainty into a system they all thought they had figured out. Seeing you makes them have questions about society, God and even biology. They thought they knew what was/is right. You've shown them and us that we may not know what's right.
Stay strong girls.
These poor girls. I wish the best for them. I’m a cisgender girl, and if someone made my hair short and gave me a suit and tie and forced me to play with trucks, I’d be, “No! I’m a girl!” That’s kind of how I try to understand it. It must be so frustrating.
Trans people are supposedly supported, and yet we’re denied our rights to be happy and ourselves because it doesn’t suit society and other people. BS,! Why do I have to cry myself to sleep, why do I feel the need to not drink no matter how thirsty I am out of fear of needing the bathroom!. Why should I have
to feel the need to disappear and die when all I want is acceptance and not death. -Zaky T from England
i'm catholic I don't get why people say god loves everyone but then they also say god hates gay, trans ect, so if god loves everyone it should mean he also loves people who r gay, trans ect
That's right.
I'm Christian and I agree with this
Teressa Prince leanne lee Too bad those like you two are few. How much of the Bible do you two believe? I'm pretty sure that a lot of the Bible was written by man with no divine inspiration, like the part about men laying with other men as with a woman.
No one has ever said God hates Gays or Trans people. That's absurd.
Kristy Lukic Then you must live in a cave because I have seen quite a bit of that said.
He didnt tackle and wore shirts as dresses. Well, that settles it then i guess he is a girl???
I used to be a tomboy, so what?
You mean she
You forgot your s when you were typing she.
I was a tomboy, too. I wore boys' clothes, played with boys' toys, had mostly boy friends. But I knew I was a girl; I identified as female. I never actually wanted to BE a boy. That's the difference.
Its not the same stupid idiot, is more than clothes
Transgender kids are not "issues", transgender kids are not "mistakes". God made us all and loves us all. Period. He didn't make us to all be the same. I'm a bisexual Christian and I believe if God didn't want me this way, he wouldn't have made me this way. People are transgender because they're meant to be transgender. If God didn't want us "mistakes" and "issues" here, he wouldn't have let us exist at all in the first place. We're all the way we are for a reason.
They are just beautiful girls ... can't even understand why it can be a discussion to just let them be who they are. Love and acceptance in the church? In church you're only loved and accepted if you fit in their vision. So I am glad to go to hell ... all the great people are there :)
19:20 "Im not saying nobody else isnt special Dont wanna start a riot" lol she is so cute! My heart breaks for these GIRLS and thier families. NOTHING is that SIMPLE humans are the furtheset thing from SIMPLE @the Drunken Clam
Same battle I face with my community.
I hate that for you @Seth Herflin. My heart and support goes out to you. Please stay strong!
I'm always strong :) There's a fire in my belly and a passion about me that makes me unbeatable.
I Know she's so cute and funny!
Part of the problem is that until recently we didn't realized there is a difference between social gender and genetic gender. Many still don't understand this concept. And most people are not aware that genetically there are more than two genders as well based on how many X and Y chromosomes there are.
The thing I don't understand about gender identity is that it is not biological, genetic or hereditary, it is a human invention based on our human experience. Sex is biological, that you cannot change. No one can infuse themselves with y chromosomes or get rid of them, but I guess I just feel like the debate of whether someone feels like a boy or girl puts too much importance on gender identity and roles. A woman should be able to engage in activities and roles which men have traditionally engaged in and vice versa while not having to be ashamed of they way they were born. I think that if the only way you feel you can be yourself is to change your body, then.. I don't really understand.
well the thing is that we actually can change our sex! in fact if you talked to most transgender adults they would tell you that they are uncomfortable with their BODIES not their GENDER. the modern understanding of what constitutes "sex" actually includes many other factors besides your chromosome (i.e. fat distribution, bone structure, hair growth, ability to carry a child, etc. etc.), so when a trans person undergoes hrt or get's any of the other related treatments we understand that as changes their person's "sex". idk if that answers your question at all! :3
It answers some questions, but what about the concept that it's not what's on the outside that counts, but rather who you are as a person? Does that change anything for some people? I guess what I am saying is should people treat you any differently when they perceive you as a guy or girl? Do they? How do changing your body make you feel more like how your mind feels?
What does it actually mean to feel more female or male?
You are quite wrong - many, many thousands of people are born 'intersexed' - about 1% of live births - where they are genetically neither male or female, and have very ambiguous genitalia. This is of course an outward, physical sign - but there are psychological signs as well, particularly as they grow up. This has prompted some countries to have a third 'sex' classification available to intersex people should they so wish to identify as such. Australia, Argentina and some European countries like Spain have three gender classes 'M', 'F' & 'X' as choices for legal status and is included in official documents such as passports. Gender identity disorder, which applies to these children here, is a recognised medical condition from which people suffer and rightly treatment is available. It is certainly not 'shameful', the world really is not as narrow as you appear to see it!
God dose not make mistakes he is perfect by these boys and there parents are making big mistakes and gender should be on your birth certificate this world is becoming sick and full of evil and I will not get the sickness everyone else is getting and most people are just push overs and that why they agree with this
I was a patient at a hospital once after a suicide attempt. The nurse put me in a room with a male roommate. When I complained they ignored me and gave me anti-anxiety pills. I tried everything I could think of and they still ignored all the suffering they were causing. Eventually my parents showed up and straightened everything out. The nurse was moved off the unit and nearly lost her job.
It's one thing to read scientifically illiterate things on the internet. It's quite another to have someone who should care for you abuse you psychologically. There's only one way I can sum up what that was like: I felt raped. And don't tell me that's an unfair comparison or that I'm denigrating rape victims. One of the male patients had to be removed from the ward because of the way he talked to the women (many of whom were rape survivors). He actually went so far as to try and feel up one of my friends. I could have been stuck in a room with him. If what happened to me had happened to an anatomically female woman, no one would question her feeling violated in the way I did.
Plot twist: God does not exist.
GOD IS NOT DEAD
How is that a plot twist? There is TONS of scientific evidence of god not being real..
Rants from an atheist
God does exist!
Katie price, that's what I was thinking about saying
No he does not exist. You can say what ever you want, but after you read the bible you will know why.
i've also dressed as girls in my childhood days just for fun. but now i've grown out of it. my parents didnt suspect me of being transgender because they dont know anything about it. i know im NOT transgender. i was just curious.
there days over educated parents push even small things like dressing up / make up as transgender and brainwash their children that they are transgender in an age when the child cant even understand what gender is. i think parents should wait for atleast for 10 to 12 years than to force their assumptions on their innocent children.
Children do know if they're a boy or a girl at a young age though.
@richard how you are so sure ? i dont think so. i said my own example. what if my parents thought that im a transgender and bombarded me with books and materials about transgender. there is a very high chance that i've become confused with my gender.
i think gender is constructed by society. if people deviate from preset gender stereotype people automatically assume that they are transgender . im not sure. im not a scholar. just speculating..
The person who said God makes zero mistakes; Shut up everyone makes mistake but trying to take EVERYONES gender off their passports is kinda silly
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Well God doesnt make mistakes because hes not even classified as "everybody" hes above that, but I dont think he hates Gays and etc. I think he loves everyone soo and im christian and i dont hate them so
Kyndall Beautyx i'm not against people who believe in 'god' , i would just like to see some proof and for people to stop trying to shove it down peoples necks if they don't believe. And of course he make mistakes, he killed his own son for crying out loud.
it doesn't matter what you were born as. Everyone tells us to be ourselves, but when we do that, and people don't like it, they tell us to stop like, that makes 0 sense. I was born a girl and I am what some people call " gender questioning" I don't care what anyone says I am who I am
"God doesn't make mistakes"? Okay, being transgender IS NOT a mistake. It's not "mismatched". It's just one kind of person. Trans people have always existed, there's nothing wrong with it, it's not an accident. We need to kill this thought, and learn how to use different language when referring to trans people. It's easy to understand the idea of a "girl in a boy's body"- but if she's a girl, then it's not a "boy's body". It's her body. it's a girl body. Regardless of the parts. Parts are just parts. Sex and gender are different, and they don't have to be the same.
Awww, what sweet parents to support their kids. My niece is a boy in a girl's body, and she was born like that. The creator made us all so let Her/Him be the judge.
these two girls are incredibly smart... i cant believe that they've been through so much at just ten years old! i hope they live their life in happiness and freedom..
Having a son that grew up playing with dolls( barbies) and dressing up in his sisters clothes, he grew up trying to find out who he was. i could accept that he became gay but the day he told me that he wanted to be a girl shocked me, and i still cant come to terms with it,even more so changed his name 😱. Why cant he accept himself as he is? so now hes in the process of transgendering into a female. They say that its having too many female hormones instead of having male hormone balance. vice versa for born females.
Still cant get my head around it.
Just love and accept her, she is your child.
Will always be a he to me
when thinking about transgenderism it's helpful to use multiple personality disorder as a frame of reference as though not identical there are many parallels and it hasn't been politicized yet.
I am a transgender woman and I'll try explaining it.
Nobody knows the exact cause of transgenderism, but we know that it is innate (i.e you are born with it). It is not something that you acquire, as many people think. Nor does it have anything to do with sexual orientation (i.e. who you are attracted to).
The most plausible theory that I've heard of is that it is caused by the masculinization process of fetuses being interrupted (as all fetuses are female until the XY ones masculinize from a testosterone bath within the womb), meaning that the brain is not fully masculinized and therefore is still wired to receive estrogen(the main female hormone) instead of testosterone(the main male hormone), meaning that when puberty starts, the brain starts going crazy because it's getting the wrong hormones. This is why hormone replacement therapy almost completely removes gender dysphoria, since it gives the brain the correct hormones.
Transgenderism is something we are born with, and does not go away with time,no matter how much we try to pretend it isn't there. It is not a product of today's society or social/cultural Marxism etc, it cannot be acquired. Transition is the best treatment we currently have, and your daughter has realised this and started transitioning.
Message me if you have any more questions :)
We do know what creates transgender.... It's at eight to ten weeks gestation the female babies body is starting to form it's second fazr of gender. This is when a sudden and wrong burst of the opposite gender hormone is sent rushing through the little fetus and mistakenly created a penis rather than the vaginal opening. This is fact and can be seen in medical journals of credible countries. Don't think because you say it's not real that it makes it so. Just like when a baby is formed without limbs...it doesn't make them a potato it makes them a baby lol. My point is if one thing can go wrong so can others.
Children are know to play dress-up and pretend. I have seen Many, Many boys dressup as girls in early childhood for fun. And animals as well. They almost always grow out of it, go through puberty and are attracted to girls sexually. A child lacks the life experience, and hasnt gone through puberty to make such a Major life decision. The boys in this video are not having fantasies of Men sexually. The are playing dress-up. They are not gay. They are not homosexual. Going through puberty and gaining life experience is the only way to determine this. To put a child on hormone blockers, hormone treatment or even a sex change is nonsense. No lawyer or psychologist would suggest such a thing. You cannot drink alcohol until you are 21. You cannot have sex until you are 16. Yet you are able to have sex change when you are 10.
I just wanted to say that one has to be 18 before they can get a sex change. I would love to get into why your other points are also wrong but I get the feeling by your comment that you wouldn't listen to them. But even you can't find a link where a 10 year old has had a sex change. They may start living as the other gender at but no sex change. In full disclosure a couple of people have convinced a surgeon to do the surgery before 18 but those are very few.
Mark Clink Hormone blockers, not sex change. I dont really care. I just put in my two cents. I listened to what a clinical psychologist, an expert in this field had to say, and She said that most cases grow out of it. They go through puberty, and end up happy with their born gender and sexual orientation. Therefore my personal opinion, is it would be tragic to misdiagnose a child, and put it on hormone blockers.
Nahanee Davidson See that is why hormone blockers are used. The blockers gives the child time to decide if they will grow out of it. If they do then the blockers are stopped. If they they don't the child keeps taking the blockers and then hormones are used. What you are not understanding is that going through a puberty that you feel is not right is hell. I am not blaming for not understanding as the fact that you are questioning this tells me that you are not trans*. To me it would be more of mistake to not take the blockers but than again I have never felt like I was in the right body so my experience maybe biased as I know what it feels like to go through the wrong puberty.
Nahanee Davidson " my personal opinion, is it would be tragic to misdiagnose a child, and put it on hormone blockers."
and... i'm assuming in your personal opinion, those few cases where these kids don't grow out of it, it wouldn't be as tragic if that child goes undiagnosed.. suffering through an unwanted puberty and ending up miserable with their newly aquired sexual characteristics they didn't want in the first place. Yeah, it certainly sounds like you don't care. but the purpose of hormone blockers is to pause puberty in case there was a misdiagnosis or he or she decides they want to develope according to their sex. I don't think you put a whole lot of thought in your opinion. Leave the worrying and problem solving to the doctors, psychologist, parents , patients, and those who actually care, who are knowledgeable about the situation who are able to critically think, your 'two cents,' if it's even worth that, isn't needed.
I just wanted to interject and say that sexual orientation and gender are not always correlated. I think our society has created extremely narrow narratives to people who are transgender so we assume that is always the case. However there are so many types of sexualities. I think it's just part of your identity like if you're extrovert, or introvert. What do you think is the most confusing part about understanding transgenders?
"What are you?"
"I'm a person."
These girls are so strong and brave.
As a Christian you are called to love all people, regardless of their background. The head minister of the Catholic school clearly did not exhibit that, which made me sick to my stomach. Anyone else feel that way?
Yes! The hateful and hypocritical comments from so-called Christians make me sick.
It didn't surprise me
If parents with a child who was born with a severe birth defect that killed 40% of people who have it came to that pastor and said "we're not getting it fixed because this is what God wanted" he'd say they were nuts. But fixing trans people's bodies to help them avoid suicide is "wrong."
I've watched a brief amount of this clip (so this could be covered) but I think a young boy wearing pink fairy wings and wanting to wear dresses doesn't necessarily mean he wants to be a girl.
I think people very often confuse societal stereotypes for gender with actual personal identity to gender. In reality, there's not much difference in the identity without the societal ideals.
Yeah, there are probably girls in the jungle who don't know what pink fairy wings are. I doubt they spend much time worrying about pink fairy wings. They probably don't want high heel shoes that get stuck in mud, either.
Yes, but there are boys in jungles who want to be girls. There are trans girls and women (born biologically male) who don't like "girly" stuff, just as there are girls born girls who would rather play with tractors and toy guns. I do think, though, if your brain tells you you are a certain gender (whether your genitals agree or not), there is a tendency to gravitate toward whatever your culture says is "feminine" or "masculine." Those kids living in the jungle understand that there are males and females just as well as we do, they just express those states differently.
Melanie Greenwood I think that's an interesting point, but I don't necessarily believe it to be valid.
I'm a woman and identify as so, but I've always gravitated towards what society would call masculine ideals. I have short hair that is partly shaved, I have somewhat masculine affectations and I only ever wear pants and shirts (I don't wear dresses).
I also have very feminine friends (who wear dresses and have long hair and fit into the female stereotype) but who ride motorcross bikes and practice karate and fighting sports.
I just think there's too much of a need to put things into categories - people aren't that simplistic.
I have grown up as the same I identified myself as a female, but my family told me otherwise, wanted me to be the gender I was assigned so there was alot of confusion and hold backs, until my late 20's was when I was finally getting my family to understand that I was transgender and a female, yet there are still hold backs and a lot more I would like to change even the scars on my wrists say the same thing, be free, be who you really are heck its only a letter on ID's and birth certificates, its only two extra letters in the full name and yes I am a true Female! and I find comfort and happieness in that, its not a fantasy, its not a fetish, its none of that its matching my mind with my body as much as I possibly can, despite my 5 oclock shadow I myself will be as clean shaven as much as possible, be as feminine as possible, from the scent I give off, to how I dress. I say deal with it! you may look and talk with yourselves but dont confront me and be rude.
They are both such beautiful little girls :)
Yes they are.
Rachel Buza no they arent...
Goku AKA Kakarot disregarding a childs views on what makes them happy, and denying the fact they are beautiful teach me your ways you great person
If i feel like i am a lion, and i act like one does that mean that i am a beautiful lion and everyone should look at me as such???No that means i have a mental disability that needs to be treated as such...
Goku AKA Kakarot did you know, at birth, your sex is defined, but the gender in the brain can sometimes not my synced with the physical sex. so in fact, it's completely valid that these girls genders is female despite their physical sex. it's science.
I love how she always carries a chicken around!
Dr. Wong, I like you! He makes me smile.
How could you tell a little kid that they aren't human? Being trans myself, that hurts so freaking much.
No one of us are the same. We can't all fit into gender norms and tiny boxes that society puts us in. Were all like colors. There's not just one form of red, there's different shades of red, just like there's different shades of people. It's time for bus to realize that and move on.
I identify myself as a vietnamese vegan table lamp that sometimes feels blue on mondays
omg both girls are so well spoken and admirable.
That man defending "catholic" (more like oppressive) beliefs literally makes me want to throw up.
I feel so bad for them because people are so mean! I wish I could tell them that it’s okay to Be themselves!😊
Tracy is extremely wise beyond her years, its beautiful.
I am ftm and I hate having to go to school and just keep pretending I'm someone I'm not. Also at home.
My friend also identifies as a ftm transgender, and since he told me I've started using male or gender neutral pronouns and stopped calling him "Person" as a nickname, so I wouldn't have to refer to him by the very feminine name he was given at birth. I do this to show my support, because everyone deserves someone on their side to have their backs. In this small way, I hope to show them that no matter what they are my friend, and if nothing else they can trust me and bw themself around me.
+Sarah McAdam *started, not stopped. Oops
I don't identify with any gender and am only me at school at home I have to be a girl and nothing else
Blondiegirl That really sucks :(
+Okami Kitsune I'm also a trans guy. Hopefully things get better for you soon.
U know heroin feels amazing, should we just be ok with people shoving needles on their arm cause it makes them "feel" better? The answer is no, not everything that "feels" good is good. In fact many things that "feel" good destroy us because the feeling deceives us. The fact that trans folks continue to alter and mutilate their bodies in order to be happy is a sign of a serious mental instability, because they obviously aren't satisfied in their own skin. A child could see that there's a problem here and the solution isn't to allow people to mutilate themselves to the point that there is no going back.
people hate because they don't understand my partner is trans and I wouldn't have her any other way.
"God doesn't make mistakes"
So first of all, they are referring to us as mistakes. Second, how can you even base your opinion off something that hasn't been proven. You don't know if there is a god. Why does everyone have to disagree with this. These girls are 10 years old. Are they personally hurting you? No, they're not. So just let them fucking live their lives and be happy like normal people. We all have an equal shot at life. I thought my country would be more accepting.
No, Reed Lazar. God didn't make a mistake he just made these children different. A dig your gonna say something like " oh you guys aren't being supportive" than this video isn't the one for you, sir. With all due respect.
+Olaf Frozenman I think he's trans as well. I'm not sure tho that's how I read his comment. I wish I could have transitioned at a younger age. My parents would have never allowed it
***** There is no such thing as transitioning sorry buddy. You're the same sex when you die as you were when you were born. This is called reality please join us.
_He's_ not referring to you as mistakes, _you_ are.
If your right, your body is a mistake.
If your wrong, your mind is a mistake.
Your not hurting me unless I have to call a man a woman which can trigger anxiety from having to breaking the normal established facts of biology or the English language to make _you_ feel good about yourself.
He made A lot of mistakes
Remove gender from passports and birth certificates?? oh come on now this is absolutely ridiculous! I'm open to hear these people out but that request is ludicrous.
+ConcreteAngelx3 Hmm Idk why I thought this was "ludicrous" 9 months ago lol... I still think gender/sex should not be removed from birth certificates though but I wouldn't say it's a ridiculous thought
It was uploaded on my birthday! :D
Actually the definition of gender is the state of being male or female typically used with social and cultural differences rather than biological ones the guy who said transgender people don't exist is wrong
My name is max. I am a trans boy. I love dressing up nice for school. but because i cant be open about my gender i dress as a girl. Which leaves people doubting my gender. Just a reminder, ones outwordly appearence does not define ones gender!
The parishioners at my Catholic church still call me Bethany, not James, and it really bugs me. I'd love to get back into the church but I want to be accepted for who I am. I can't live a lie.
Every time Tracy's mom refers to her daughter with male pronouns, it just breaks my heart. I am gender non-binary, so watching this just speaks to me. :,)
These people will pass away with time, but God is forever. Remember that.
+karen dunn well my friend, I'm sorry to report but you too will in fact see God one day. in fact, you will get on your knees and worship Him as the only one true God cry, then you will be thrown into hell along with all the other people who denied God here on earth. that is truth!
a parent allowing a child to change gender is equivalent to sending your child to hell. The sadness that is the whole today ....
+Shteena M Sorry but no-one is "allowing" their child to change gender. They are simply allowing the child to live life as the gender they've always been.
Refusing to do so would be child abuse - there is a reason that over 40% of transgendered youth attempt suicide (the norm for all teenagers is about 4%). The biggest single reason? Their parents don't accept them for who and what they are.
+Shteena M and why doesn't this qualify as God testing to see who will live by loving their neighbor by accepting them and who won't?
Sam Adams how can a child just decide to wanna be the opposite gender??? Children need parents to make decisions for them. They kill themselves because it's the devil getting into their heads, brainwashing them that they shud be the opposite sex. The Devils #1 plan is to seek, kill & destroy. So when there are vulnerable ppl, the devil gets in. Don't be fooled, it's chromosomes that define gender, not feelings!!!! Have these children seen their DNA? That's right no they haven't. You wanna belive in science, that's your most absolute answer: science and DNA. Can't deny that even apart from God.
sasha01198 God wud not create kids in a 'wrong' body to test their neighbor in how great their love is. Ppl just wanna believe whatever 'feels' best for them & never actually consider truth.
Tracy is a special person as well as all these who are unique as themselves. Rainbow spirits to 5 hem all.
Best. Grandma. Ever. My own grandma won't even call me by my new name. No way in hell would she support me like that.
None of you people who are against this have any idea of what it feels like emotionally, mentally or physically to have this issue, and shameful that even though we've claimed to evolved, we have a primitive mindset.
People have a right to freely express themselves, and for children, this issue is not something they can control or change. It's the people like you, Drunken Clam, who causes people to have even further issues, such as suicidal thoughts and actions.
It's not something controllable, not a joke, not something to ignore or hide. Just get over yourselves and wake up. This is the 21st century. People are speaking up, don't mute them.
No one has the right to tell you your gender. If they can’t see one soul, I have been out 23 years had surgery 14 years ago to save my life. I’m a 64 year old woman and happy that’s the first four decades of my life hiding my truth, destroyed, my health, mentally and physically.
I love those kids because of how understanding they are about the subject and they know who they wanna be and it just makes me so happy to see how strong they are I jusT LOVE THEM
The part that bothers me about this video is when they consider it as a disorder! I feel there is nothing wrong with being a Transgender. I am personally not a Transgender but I support everyone the way they are and don't care!
If I would have known who I was at that age, I would have started that young. I am jealous that I didn't do that, but I can't anything now.
Ashley Millian I'm ten and I'm a boy but I have girl parts, but I already knew at seven, I actually consider myself lucky
Alexx Awkward As Duck Don't let anyone tell who to be and how to think. The haters are delusional for their misunderstanding. I wish you guys the best and hope that you will have happiness in your lives.....GOOD LUCK.
Ashley Millian I can't tell you how happy that reply made me, thanks so much
Awkward As Duck You are so welcome. I am happy to see that you found who you are early life. I hope your transition goes smoothly sweetie.
I did not mean it that way. What I meant by that is that I can't go back in time at a young age and start the transition. I did not meant it to come off that. It is never too late, young, middle age, old. Transitioning doesn't need a certain age to do it, you can do it any time.
Where can we join the petition to remove gender from birth certificates and passports?
I don't mean this about EVERY Catholic or Christian person, but let's just say that I am NOT SURPRISED that Tracy's parents did NOT get the love and acceptance they expected from the Catholic community that TALKS ( a big talk) about love and acceptance. Ive seen those double standards OVER AND OVER again. They will love and accept you AS LONG AS you are doing everything their way! ITS LAUGHABLE!
Stop this aggression on society, specially on kids. Leave the children alone!