Liverpool did have some bad performances in 2006-07 but Gerrard is anything BUT a ''nothing player''. There is a reason why he is considered one of the best midfielders in Europe in recent memory.
@adaml0946 How many games have you played for United?? Dunphy is the best pundit ever, he always says exactly what he thinks and even if he ocassionally comes on a bit strong that only adds to the entertainment... They were right about Gerard back then, he was in a bad run of form and playing on his rep. Eamon Dunphy- Legend
These 3 are raging that Liverpool went through and Rafa Benitez masterplan away from home to Barcelona at Non Camp. Results keeps you in jobs not performances.
These were great times. The rivalries between Liverpool and chelsea and chelsea and Barcelona were electric, great European nights. Not really there nowadays. The whole thing is alot more sanitised.
The greatest modern english midfielder? Scholes. Gerrard, Lampard, the great pretenders who can never quite cut it on the big stage. The heart of the midfield is what England is missing, and it's gonna a hell of an uphill struggle to bring it back.
jkent: thank you mate. I was beginning to wonder whether i was just supporting my team, nice to hear a neutral say that. There were a few times where i was a bit frustrated that we weren't keeping it better, but against arguably the best club team in the world, we were MUCH better than them for maybe 50% of the game, and better for probably another 40%, only near the end were we a bit nervy.
The panel are normally good analysts. But Dunphy went a bit nuts again! Liverpool had a great 1st half and not so good 2nd half. Overall a job well done to k.o. Barcelona. Dunphys always entertaining I'll give him that! I'd love to see him on the BBC or UTV.
I remember when Dunphy once said "the closest Liverpool will ever get to Europe is by watching the television at home". I think it was during the time they were managed by Houllier. I laughed my head off. It captured their limitations perfectly at that time.
What about his goal against Olympiacos? The goal that got us into the CL knockout stages. What about the two goals that he scored in the FA Cup final in 2006, his second was a 35 yard piledriver in the 90th minute which saved us. What about the fact that he was the outstanding english player at Euro 2012 and made it into the Euro 2012 team of the tournament? What about the 40 yard runs he makes to retrieve the ball and start up attacks? What about the world class crossing ability?
true-most of the attacking sides have been eliminated by the boring defensive teams-the attacking sides just didn't have the needed edge-doesn't make for a very interesting tournament now except for Milan & ManU
His performance in the champions league final ? We were completely outplayed , it was only when Hamann came into midfield and kept Kaka quite that the game changed , in reality we had 6 crazy minutes in the second half , we were shit for most of that final, Exactly his GOAL against Olympiacos because he was giving the ball away all night , thats why we were in trouble to begin with , Ronaldo the real one , Maradona, Zidane , Cryuff , Best , Pele , Iniesta , Xavi etc, thats the stuff of Legend
What about his performance in the Champions League final? He was the player of the tournament in the best club competition on earth. Watch his goal against Olympiacos and him running to the kop and tell me he is overrated. Thats the stuff of legend, you can't dispute that.
I'd disagree with a lot of that, not about Gerrard but on the rest of it he's right, well he's honest. And huggie25505, it's not just Dunphy, and he's pretty much outspoken but honest on pretty much every team, he doesn't have favorites. He's criticised Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal and Co. Over and over again equally. He's just sharing his own honest oppinion.
I'm sorry right, I've just watched the game again, and this guy definitely has an agenda against liverpool! We BATTERED them in the first half!! everyone remembers TWO bar hits, but we also had 4 shots in one move when valdez made that double save, and i think 2 other presentable chances as well. NO mention of it! That the game could have quite easily been over at half -time!
I remember ITV being highly critical of Ronaldinho before the match and at half time. Come the second half, he hits the post and starts a few moves. That muppet Pleat starts saying how effective he's been all night!!!
@markus1312 what i meant was not that England are stronger up front but you could see Rooney playing up front for Spain , but you could never see any English midfielders playing for Spain in the way Xavi Cesc Alonso Silva or Iniesta do , its in midfield that England are a million miles from Spain , if Spain swapped Villa for Rooney they would be no weaker , but swap Lampard Gerrard Barry or Parker for Xavi or Iniesta and they would be far weaker. at least in my opinion
but when this world class central midfielder was in midfield against Milan Liverpool were completely outplayed , Haman and Alonso were in the middle for second half and Kaka was kept quite and Liverpool came back , Gerrard finished that game at right back , HE WAS GIVING THE BALL AWAY the whole first half against west ham thats why they were behind , he has proven that Alonso was the real world class midfielder because Gerrard has being harmless for Liverpool since he left .
im a hardcore irish lfc fan and im delighted i have rte analisys, its a breath of fresh air to the lack luster mediocar performance of bbc and sky, they say what u think. wen im pissed off with my teams performance i like to hear it from dunphy,giles and brady that they think so too. oh and kieranMan ''gerrard and torres boring''? get real m8
Brady.. 'the beauty of the game'.. Last years finalists.. Barcelona and Arsenal, both out of the competition now. Todays champions have heart, not beauty. Bring back the old days, before the crazy money, when big teams had both.
I admire the fact that he says what he thinks. but liverpool were not poor all through this game, only periods of the 2nd half did they fail to play well. they hit the crossbar twice anyway in the 1st half and had more chances too. agains the european champions at the time. liverpool had a lead to protect, a job to do, and they done it. simple as.
Gerrard a nothing player, did not rate Platini and did not rate, wait for it Ronaldo, Eamon how did you get that job, and they pay you for the rubbish you talk.
I agree it is entertaining but he comes out with some silly statements and they pay him to write about football in one of the papers as well, how did he get the job.
This is real football analysis! for all the controversy and narrow-mindedness you may THINK is been shown here,well at least its fucking honest.Never in a million years would Sky, the BBC or ITV have the courage to talk about football in the way these men do."the lad knows he could've done better" is what you'd expect from lawerenson or shearer, men who are afraid to make enemies out of former collegues or sporting peers.Respect this candid analysis,whether it rubs you up the wrong way or not.
They're both right. Liverpool's defensive long ball game is awful to watch. It'll be a travesty and bad for the game if they go any further in the competiton.
Bigswan54, I saw Liam Brady and Jonny Giles as players home and away against LFC in the 70s. I loved them - which makes their drunken performance here all the more saddening. Dunphy has always been a journeyman and an opportunist and - you're right 24solo - ought not to be taken seriously.
remember this, was shocked at this seen as Liverpool had won in the nou camp and knocked out the then (and now actually but thats irrelevant ) champions. the first half here liverpool played barca off the pitch much like nou camp second half
winning is never everything..the fans will always b behind LIVERPOOL.wad matter is how much they have contributed & worked hard for the fans.. and they wont stop and we are grateful. WALK ON. new season coming up!
Totally agree with you about analysis being totally cliched mate. However saying whatever you like isn't the way to avoid being cliched!! His analysis of the game is WRONG simple as that. ignores the excellent 1st half and wildly exaggerates our 2nd half, we were nervy at times, that's as bad as I'll accept. This guy has an agenda which means his analysis is as untrustworthy as the people you mentioned!
torres= strong moral charicter+ great work ethic+ emphatic goal scorer+ great teamwork+ great defensive duties .................................. C Ronaldo= emphatic goalscorer+ skill - weak moral charicter - bad team player(needs ball to feet or else gives out) - bad work ethic( stands still if no emphisis on him) - no defensive duties ( wont tackle or run back to help the defence)
Lampard in fairness is a nice player among the best midfielders in Europe but not at the standard of Xavi/Iniesta. He should have played in a foreign league because then his game would really have developed but unfortunately he's played his whole career in a league that has valued physicality above anything else. Gerrard, yeah I think he's average, Liverpool didn't do anything to make Alonso stay as they thought all they needed was Gerrard then surprise surprise they turn into a mid table club.
spot on, they clearly have no idea how football is meant to be played in these cup competitions. Benitez is a nice man but he has a huge negative streak in him, made me laugh my ass off, what a bellend, it is called defending and maybe if arsenal could do it properly they wouldn't have conceeded to PSV who are wank.
I love Liverpool , and it hurts to see us where we are now , but the reasons are obvious , Alonso , was our Pirlo or Xavi everthing was started by him , Rafa then comes up with the idea to replace him with Barry, Alonso played his last season for us at a standard that Gerrard or Barry could never match in midfield , think about this for a second , we lost a midfielder that plays for the best International side of all time , Gerrard has done nothing at that level and you know it .
No fool would agree that Barcelona played the more beautiful football over the two legs. Liverpool were the better side and the highlights would show that. Barca did nothing except hitting the post and Gudjohnsen beating the offside trap to make a game of it. Aside from that, Liverpool had all the chances. And if they say Liverpool were just hanging on to the end, what do you say of Crouch's miss as well as Pennant's effort that was parried by Valdes in the dying seconds?
I can see where he is coming through, I can't remember the game in question to be honest although I probably watched it.. I think what Dunphy is trying to do is criticize Liverpool's style of play which I agree is sometimes very negative and defensive to watch. I think alot of Liverpool fan would disagree with that, but I tend to think their style of play is negative and try and defend attitude to games.
This is much better than the stuff we get in England, which is basically "Your best mate won't be happy with that miss, will he?" "No, ha ha, I'll have a word when we play golf at the weekend. How about that team you played for for 15 years and is now managed by your old teammate? You won't want to say anything bad as you still make a few quid turning out for their Masters team and doing the hospitality bit on matchdays." Ho fuckin' ho.
tomescan: That channel may be good in general, but this analysis is wrong! The agenda i'm pointing towards is not liking liverpool and/or getting a name for himself by being controversial. The others seemed to be sucked into it for me.
He is right, Liverpool are nothing but hardwork. Where are there fantasistas? wizards? magicians? all they have is runners like Gerrard, Carragher and Torres to bore us to death.
Dunphy clearly hasn't a clue. Every football team plays to it's strengths. Utd rely on Ronaldo, Chelsea rely mainly on intimidating referees and Liverpool during the game in question, defended resolutely to secure their first leg lead. For Liverpool to try and play Barcelona at their own game would have been suicidal. Liverpool simply did what was required. There's a world of difference between the European cup and nearly scraping into division 1 with Millwall. He needs to understand that.
Paul Scholes was the best midfielder to ever play in the Premiership , Gerrard has got great ability and an amazing strike of a football but he hasnt got the positional awareness to play in central midfield , its all SKY SPORTS hype with him a world class player ? you tell me the last time he gave a world class performance for England in a big game ill give you a hit he never has and you know it , The Hamann substitution changed the CL final keeping Kaka quite and Gerrard gets all the credit .
Im a liverpool fan , Gerrard a world class player bolocks , he has never even given one world class performance for England , its a myth that he carries poor players , Alonso behind him Torres in front of him = Gerrards best season for Liverpool, Jay Spearing behind him = his worse season for Liverpool, he has a reputation of being a world class central midfield player but has spent over half his playing career not playing in midfield , a great finisher and great strike of a ball but no Xavi
Dunphy does not say how it is. He says how he thinks it is. (In which he is allowed to be wrong because he is so god damn entertaining when he gets into full throttle). He makes RTE the most watchable station for sports IMO and I hope to god Venables gets the Ireland job because of this as he fucking hates him. LEGEND
I would guess for the neutral, this year's Champions League has now lost something with prob. the three best attacking sides in Barca, Real Madrid and Arsenal now out of the competition.
look, let's face it, we're not the side we were in the 70's and 80's but then, we dont have to be, dunphy was never fit to play for Shankly's great teams and even the Manc boys didn't want him, how many medals did you win at The Den, Eamon?
You call yourself a Liverpool fan but would swap PAUL SCHOLES for Gerrard and you say he's overrated. One question. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU. You should be embarrassed. Gerrard is one of the best midfielders of his generation and a legend.
Benitez is bad for Liverpool...he's another Houllier...negative tactics, mind boggling decisions, a rotation policy that doesnt work...he's created a cup team. thats what Liverpool are now...they won't win the Premiership as long as he's manager.
he is not a worldclass player its all media hype , Spain played with six midfielders and they were all better than Gerrard in the Euros , as was Pirlo and Ozil , you know those players that actually got on the ball and used it , Gerrard got the run around from a 33 year old Milan let go for free , he didnt get a kick for the first half against Ukraine , was ok at best against France , and put in a cross against Sweden , wonderful stuff from the great Gerrard .
i read about these guys in four four two and wish we had pundits like this on UK tv. ok he's maybe worng about gerrard but at least he's saying what he thinks and not churning out the usual cliched crap we always hear
Dont think all irish know nothing about footy. The only reason he said that is cos he is gets drunk for his shows and he is just jealous cos the other lads have big footy careers and he done a pizza advert.
Careful with your knee-jerk racism, bigswan54: What's my nationality? I come from a line of immigrants - out of Ireland - and I'm writing from Spain. I usually only see BBC, ITV, and RTE for that matter, when I visit what's left of my family in the UK/Ireland.
But Liverpool were superb in the first half, and Benitez is almost unanimously revered as one of the best managers in the world! Do reckon Benitez is a protestant and this guys a Catholic?!
Erikkson had him clearing up for lazy Lampard most of the time (I was at the Paraguay game and Lampard is one of the laziest midfielders I've ever seen. Makelele must love making him look good. The two tiems Gerrard was releases into a forward role he scored in both games. You work it out.
Dunphy is just pure bitter. giles was more objective. As a liverpool fan i would have liked to see them play possesion football but they were all knackered after their first half exertions. when risse came off he was exhausted (and he is probably the fittest player in england). sometimes heart is required over technique and liverpool were superb mentally the whole game. no praise from dunphy for that. he's just a bitter windbag. c'mon the pool
Finally some sense. At least there's ONE english person who isn't getting ridiculously offended and lashing out with dated irish stereotypes. And by the way LFC fans who are throwing all of this abuse at the Irish people.Any fucking idea where 'The fields of anfield road' comes from?
@markus1312 to be fair Real had at least 5 very good chances in the first half alone and had shots cleared off the line , hit the post and the keeper made some decent saves , Barca were very lucky to lead at half time and its unfair to say that Madrid scored the two chances they had , the had far more good chances than Barca that night .
@UtleyOx1989 im a liverpool fan myself and i think what dumphy means is when you listen to sky sports they would have you belive that gerrard is the greatest midfielder in the world , a one man team , paul merson called him the best player in the world on soccer saturday , thats total bolocks , he hasnt given one world class performance for his country , and ever manager he has played under has taken him out of central midfield , he is overrated and no scholes or xavi for sure
Dunphy made a name for himself by ranting on about Jack Charlton during the nineties and making shocking statements while drunk on TV. He never should have been allowed on screen again but he was a ratings winner. Since then he has courted controversy at every opportunity. Its wearing thin now imo and a little predictable. Dunphy and the rest of the RTE panel are more entertaining than the MOTD but its all stage managed and rehearsed to get a reaction.
I'm trying to work out whose judgment to trust re: Gerrard. Eamonn Dunphy's (a pissed old knob jockey) or Zinedine Zidane's (until recently the best player in the world). Hmm, a tough one.
hold on why call gerrard a nothing player? is'nt carrick more of a nothing player? for start gerrard is captain of liverpool and scored one of liverpool goals in the champions league final and he a great free kick taker and penalty and has one great shots. With carrick. Nothing but just a player!
You cant be considered a world class central midfielder if you have spent half of your career not playing there , every manager at Liverpool and England besides Hodgson and Kenny have taken him out of central midfield , his worse performances for Liverpool were when Alonso left , Gerrard cant play in central midfield and didnt get a kick against a 33 year old Milan let go for free , both Liverpool and England cant pass the ball for shit and he is the play maker , over rated simple .
Im not a moron , im just not a sheep who blindly says Gerrard can do no wrong and listens to SKY SPORTS rubbish , Liverpool and England play rubbish football , he is their captain and supposed to be their playmaker , he hasnt even given 1 worldclass performance for England against any top side or average side for that matter , his prefered position is central midfield and he was played out on the right left and behind Torres why ? because Alonso was a far better central midfielder and passer ,
He can win the Champions League and FA Cup by himself, but if you can't do it in a Last 16 match you win against Europe's best team, you're a nothing player...
Torres and Gerrard Runners?? what the hell are you talking about! All the other 'Superstars' could learn a few things from Torres in terms of attitude.
@markus1312 i totally agree with you , right now they are nowhere near as good , but remember this vid is a couple of years old , and i was just making a point that Gerrard was not the world beater he is made out to be , and its in central midfield where they are a million miles from Spain and Dunphy is saying that in the company of real world class ie Xavi, Gerrard is nothing and i even though im a Liverpool fan agree with him.
@tony10396861 that was the season after gerrard won the PFA player of the year award. so instead of calling him a "nothing player", he should have just pointed out that he's not been in great form lately. would have made him look less an idiot.
Ok i know dunphy goes over the top a bit, but if u were to watch the sky sports panel that night. they had phil thompson on the match (on both legs) and said that "liverpool were absolutly brilliant" were they? i dont think so...
dunphy, bill, giles and brady, and to a lesser extent graham sueness. legends, best show on rte. only soccer show has the balls to tell it like it is not like the bollocks you hear on bbc or sky
@laudrup90 you know what youre talking about , im a Liverpool fan and would have swapped Gerrard for Scholes any day of the week , not getting a kick for 80 mins and then scoring a screamer from 35 yards does not mean you played well in the game , ie Xavi you will never see him hammer one in from 35 yards , but you will never see him out played in midfield , and if Gerrard is one of the best central midfielders in the world why has he spent half of his career not playing in midfield ? overrated
These guys don't have a clue? if they tried and play like abrcelona that would have not faired well for liverpool. barcelona didn't do too much over the two legs. They were lucky to win at anfield, we bossed that first half and hit the post twice i remember.
I sat in a sitting room in Greystones in 2007 and watched that....live, as it happened. These guys really hated Benitez. Hated him.
Don't know what ye got till its gone
Liverpool did have some bad performances in 2006-07 but Gerrard is anything BUT a ''nothing player''. There is a reason why he is considered one of the best midfielders in Europe in recent memory.
Would not go that. He a top player but not a all time great. Bottled league titles.
Liverpool ended up getting to the final and only lost it by a goal lol,, you'd swear listening to these guys they were a league 2 team
Well then they clearly improved as the tournament went on, I remember this game, they were definitely not far off diabolical.
This was 15 years ago, just imagine these lot thoughts on Diego Simeone Atletico Madrid team style of play current time.
You might not agree with them (I personally think Gerrard rocks) but there a hell of alot better than pundits everywhere else.
@adaml0946 How many games have you played for United?? Dunphy is the best pundit ever, he always says exactly what he thinks and even if he ocassionally comes on a bit strong that only adds to the entertainment... They were right about Gerard back then, he was in a bad run of form and playing on his rep. Eamon Dunphy- Legend
These 3 are raging that Liverpool went through and Rafa Benitez masterplan away from home to Barcelona at Non Camp. Results keeps you in jobs not performances.
Saying Gerrard is a nothing player is ridiculous
I like Dunphy but why does he slag the English national team off, then talk about our clubs as if they're his own?
These were great times.
The rivalries between Liverpool and chelsea and chelsea and Barcelona were electric, great European nights.
Not really there nowadays. The whole thing is alot more sanitised.
calls gerrard a nothing player after the 2005 champions league final and 2006 fa cup final??? what an absolute plonker!
spot on!!! gerrards an average player
The greatest modern english midfielder? Scholes.
Gerrard, Lampard, the great pretenders who can never quite cut it on the big stage. The heart of the midfield is what England is missing, and it's gonna a hell of an uphill struggle to bring it back.
jkent:
thank you mate. I was beginning to wonder whether i was just supporting my team, nice to hear a neutral say that. There were a few times where i was a bit frustrated that we weren't keeping it better, but against arguably the best club team in the world, we were MUCH better than them for maybe 50% of the game, and better for probably another 40%, only near the end were we a bit nervy.
Dunphy = LEGEND!
''gerrard, got found out tonight, nothing player'' hahaha wtf
The panel are normally good analysts. But Dunphy went a bit nuts again! Liverpool had a great 1st half and not so good 2nd half. Overall a job well done to k.o. Barcelona.
Dunphys always entertaining I'll give him that! I'd love to see him on the BBC or UTV.
Says Dunphy who admitted to be a Liverpool fan a few years back. Dunphy is a hypocrite
I remember when Dunphy once said "the closest Liverpool will ever get to Europe is by watching the television at home". I think it was during the time they were managed by Houllier. I laughed my head off. It captured their limitations perfectly at that time.
They just sound like a bunch of drunks in the pub.
What about his goal against Olympiacos? The goal that got us into the CL knockout stages.
What about the two goals that he scored in the FA Cup final in 2006, his second was a 35 yard piledriver in the 90th minute which saved us.
What about the fact that he was the outstanding english player at Euro 2012 and made it into the Euro 2012 team of the tournament?
What about the 40 yard runs he makes to retrieve the ball and start up attacks?
What about the world class crossing ability?
What about euro 04 and world cup 14 and he was the so called talisman in the golden generation and failed to qualify for euro 2008.
true-most of the attacking sides have been eliminated by the boring defensive teams-the attacking sides just didn't have the needed edge-doesn't make for a very interesting tournament now except for Milan & ManU
His performance in the champions league final ? We were completely outplayed , it was only when Hamann came into midfield and kept Kaka quite that the game changed , in reality we had 6 crazy minutes in the second half , we were shit for most of that final, Exactly his GOAL against Olympiacos because he was giving the ball away all night , thats why we were in trouble to begin with , Ronaldo the real one , Maradona, Zidane , Cryuff , Best , Pele , Iniesta , Xavi etc, thats the stuff of Legend
What about his performance in the Champions League final?
He was the player of the tournament in the best club competition on earth.
Watch his goal against Olympiacos and him running to the kop and tell me he is overrated.
Thats the stuff of legend, you can't dispute that.
I'd disagree with a lot of that, not about Gerrard but on the rest of it he's right, well he's honest. And huggie25505, it's not just Dunphy, and he's pretty much outspoken but honest on pretty much every team, he doesn't have favorites. He's criticised Man U, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal and Co. Over and over again equally. He's just sharing his own honest oppinion.
I'm sorry right, I've just watched the game again, and this guy definitely has an agenda against liverpool! We BATTERED them in the first half!! everyone remembers TWO bar hits, but we also had 4 shots in one move when valdez made that double save, and i think 2 other presentable chances as well.
NO mention of it! That the game could have quite easily been over at half -time!
The lads always had an obsession with Barca. Was like a funeral every time they got knocked out
I remember ITV being highly critical of Ronaldinho before the match and at half time. Come the second half, he hits the post and starts a few moves. That muppet Pleat starts saying how effective he's been all night!!!
@markus1312 what i meant was not that England are stronger up front but you could see Rooney playing up front for Spain , but you could never see any English midfielders playing for Spain in the way Xavi Cesc Alonso Silva or Iniesta do , its in midfield that England are a million miles from Spain , if Spain swapped Villa for Rooney they would be no weaker , but swap Lampard Gerrard Barry or Parker for Xavi or Iniesta and they would be far weaker. at least in my opinion
but when this world class central midfielder was in midfield against Milan Liverpool were completely outplayed , Haman and Alonso were in the middle for second half and Kaka was kept quite and Liverpool came back , Gerrard finished that game at right back , HE WAS GIVING THE BALL AWAY the whole first half against west ham thats why they were behind , he has proven that Alonso was the real world class midfielder because Gerrard has being harmless for Liverpool since he left .
im a hardcore irish lfc fan and im delighted i have rte analisys, its a breath of fresh air to the lack luster mediocar performance of bbc and sky, they say what u think. wen im pissed off with my teams performance i like to hear it from dunphy,giles and brady that they think so too. oh and kieranMan ''gerrard and torres boring''? get real m8
Brady.. 'the beauty of the game'.. Last years finalists.. Barcelona and Arsenal, both out of the competition now. Todays champions have heart, not beauty. Bring back the old days, before the crazy money, when big teams had both.
Dunphy is actually a Liverpool fan.
I admire the fact that he says what he thinks. but liverpool were not poor all through this game, only periods of the 2nd half did they fail to play well. they hit the crossbar twice anyway in the 1st half and had more chances too. agains the european champions at the time. liverpool had a lead to protect, a job to do, and they done it. simple as.
Gerrard a nothing player, did not rate Platini and did not rate, wait for it Ronaldo, Eamon how did you get that job, and they pay you for the rubbish you talk.
It's still the most entertaining footballing analysis you will see on tv.
I agree it is entertaining but he comes out with some silly statements and they pay him to write about football in one of the papers as well, how did he get the job.
This is real football analysis! for all the controversy and narrow-mindedness you may THINK is been shown here,well at least its fucking honest.Never in a million years would Sky, the BBC or ITV have the courage to talk about football in the way these men do."the lad knows he could've done better" is what you'd expect from lawerenson or shearer, men who are afraid to make enemies out of former collegues or sporting peers.Respect this candid analysis,whether it rubs you up the wrong way or not.
They're both right. Liverpool's defensive long ball game is awful to watch. It'll be a travesty and bad for the game if they go any further in the competiton.
Bigswan54, I saw Liam Brady and Jonny Giles as players home and away against LFC in the 70s. I loved them - which makes their drunken performance here all the more saddening. Dunphy has always been a journeyman and an opportunist and - you're right 24solo - ought not to be taken seriously.
remember this, was shocked at this seen as Liverpool had won in the nou camp and knocked out the then (and now actually but thats irrelevant ) champions.
the first half here liverpool played barca off the pitch much like nou camp second half
winning is never everything..the fans will always b behind LIVERPOOL.wad matter is how much they have contributed & worked hard for the fans..
and they wont stop and we are grateful.
WALK ON.
new season coming up!
Totally agree with you about analysis being totally cliched mate. However saying whatever you like isn't the way to avoid being cliched!! His analysis of the game is WRONG simple as that. ignores the excellent 1st half and wildly exaggerates our 2nd half, we were nervy at times, that's as bad as I'll accept. This guy has an agenda which means his analysis is as untrustworthy as the people you mentioned!
Say all you want about Dunphy, at least he has an opinion and isn't afraid to speak it. English pundits take note.
torres= strong moral charicter+ great work ethic+ emphatic goal scorer+ great teamwork+ great defensive duties .................................. C Ronaldo= emphatic goalscorer+ skill - weak moral charicter - bad team player(needs ball to feet or else gives out) - bad work ethic( stands still if no emphisis on him) - no defensive duties ( wont tackle or run back to help the defence)
if i was indeed irish, those comments would undoubtably make me ashamed to be so
Lampard in fairness is a nice player among the best midfielders in Europe but not at the standard of Xavi/Iniesta. He should have played in a foreign league because then his game would really have developed but unfortunately he's played his whole career in a league that has valued physicality above anything else. Gerrard, yeah I think he's average, Liverpool didn't do anything to make Alonso stay as they thought all they needed was Gerrard then surprise surprise they turn into a mid table club.
spot on, they clearly have no idea how football is meant to be played in these cup competitions.
Benitez is a nice man but he has a huge negative streak in him, made me laugh my ass off, what a bellend, it is called defending and maybe if arsenal could do it properly they wouldn't have conceeded to PSV who are wank.
I love Liverpool , and it hurts to see us where we are now , but the reasons are obvious , Alonso , was our Pirlo or Xavi everthing was started by him , Rafa then comes up with the idea to replace him with Barry, Alonso played his last season for us at a standard that Gerrard or Barry could never match in midfield , think about this for a second , we lost a midfielder that plays for the best International side of all time , Gerrard has done nothing at that level and you know it .
No fool would agree that Barcelona played the more beautiful football over the two legs. Liverpool were the better side and the highlights would show that. Barca did nothing except hitting the post and Gudjohnsen beating the offside trap to make a game of it. Aside from that, Liverpool had all the chances. And if they say Liverpool were just hanging on to the end, what do you say of Crouch's miss as well as Pennant's effort that was parried by Valdes in the dying seconds?
I can see where he is coming through, I can't remember the game in question to be honest although I probably watched it.. I think what Dunphy is trying to do is criticize Liverpool's style of play which I agree is sometimes very negative and defensive to watch.
I think alot of Liverpool fan would disagree with that, but I tend to think their style of play is negative and try and defend attitude to games.
This is much better than the stuff we get in England, which is basically "Your best mate won't be happy with that miss, will he?" "No, ha ha, I'll have a word when we play golf at the weekend. How about that team you played for for 15 years and is now managed by your old teammate? You won't want to say anything bad as you still make a few quid turning out for their Masters team and doing the hospitality bit on matchdays." Ho fuckin' ho.
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That channel may be good in general, but this analysis is wrong! The agenda i'm pointing towards is not liking liverpool and/or getting a name for himself by being controversial. The others seemed to be sucked into it for me.
He is right, Liverpool are nothing but hardwork. Where are there fantasistas? wizards? magicians? all they have is runners like Gerrard, Carragher and Torres to bore us to death.
Dunphy clearly hasn't a clue. Every football team plays to it's strengths. Utd rely on Ronaldo, Chelsea rely mainly on intimidating referees and Liverpool during the game in question, defended resolutely to secure their first leg lead. For Liverpool to try and play Barcelona at their own game would have been suicidal. Liverpool simply did what was required. There's a world of difference between the European cup and nearly scraping into division 1 with Millwall. He needs to understand that.
Paul Scholes was the best midfielder to ever play in the Premiership , Gerrard has got great ability and an amazing strike of a football but he hasnt got the positional awareness to play in central midfield , its all SKY SPORTS hype with him a world class player ? you tell me the last time he gave a world class performance for England in a big game ill give you a hit he never has and you know it , The Hamann substitution changed the CL final keeping Kaka quite and Gerrard gets all the credit .
At least most of the time they talk more sense than someone like Jamie Redknapp who hasn't a bad word to say about anyone.
Even though I don't agree with much of what Dunphy is saying, I'd rather see actual opinions from pundits than the wishy-washy apologists we get here.
Im a liverpool fan , Gerrard a world class player bolocks , he has never even given one world class performance for England , its a myth that he carries poor players , Alonso behind him Torres in front of him = Gerrards best season for Liverpool, Jay Spearing behind him = his worse season for Liverpool, he has a reputation of being a world class central midfield player but has spent over half his playing career not playing in midfield , a great finisher and great strike of a ball but no Xavi
Dunphy does not say how it is. He says how he thinks it is. (In which he is allowed to be wrong because he is so god damn entertaining when he gets into full throttle).
He makes RTE the most watchable station for sports IMO and I hope to god Venables gets the Ireland job because of this as he fucking hates him. LEGEND
When is Jermaine Pennant ever going to be in a team that wins the premier league or the champions league NEVER! hahaha
I would guess for the neutral, this year's Champions League has now lost something with prob. the three best attacking sides in Barca, Real Madrid and Arsenal now out of the competition.
look, let's face it, we're not the side we were in the 70's and 80's but then, we dont have to be, dunphy was never fit to play for Shankly's great teams and even the Manc boys didn't want him, how many medals did you win at The Den, Eamon?
You call yourself a Liverpool fan but would swap PAUL SCHOLES for Gerrard and you say he's overrated.
One question.
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU.
You should be embarrassed.
Gerrard is one of the best midfielders of his generation and a legend.
Lol! Bill at the end summed it up "Yeah, sure it could have been 3 - 0 at half time"
Barca had nothing to lose, Liverpool still had their chances even though Barca was throwing everything at L'Pool.
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Benitez is bad for Liverpool...he's another Houllier...negative tactics, mind boggling decisions, a rotation policy that doesnt work...he's created a cup team. thats what Liverpool are now...they won't win the Premiership as long as he's manager.
Said it before and Ill say it again, if it wasn't for the IRISH Anfield would be 3/4 empty. Scousers support Everton
he is not a worldclass player its all media hype , Spain played with six midfielders and they were all better than Gerrard in the Euros , as was Pirlo and Ozil , you know those players that actually got on the ball and used it , Gerrard got the run around from a 33 year old Milan let go for free , he didnt get a kick for the first half against Ukraine , was ok at best against France , and put in a cross against Sweden , wonderful stuff from the great Gerrard .
calling gerrard a nothin player hahahaaaaa what a plank
i read about these guys in four four two and wish we had pundits like this on UK tv.
ok he's maybe worng about gerrard but at least he's saying what he thinks and not churning out the usual cliched crap we always hear
Dont think all irish know nothing about footy. The only reason he said that is cos he is gets drunk for his shows and he is just jealous cos the other lads have big footy careers and he done a pizza advert.
Thanks for passing on those words of wisdom fellas - who are you again? Gerrard found out? Stick to growing potatoes
Careful with your knee-jerk racism, bigswan54: What's my nationality? I come from a line of immigrants - out of Ireland - and I'm writing from Spain. I usually only see BBC, ITV, and RTE for that matter, when I visit what's left of my family in the UK/Ireland.
and for the record just shows what dunphy knows.alonso is class
But Liverpool were superb in the first half, and Benitez is almost unanimously revered as one of the best managers in the world!
Do reckon Benitez is a protestant and this guys a Catholic?!
I didn´t know there were any Spanish Protestants...
Erikkson had him clearing up for lazy Lampard most of the time (I was at the Paraguay game and Lampard is one of the laziest midfielders I've ever seen. Makelele must love making him look good. The two tiems Gerrard was releases into a forward role he scored in both games. You work it out.
Dunphy is just pure bitter. giles was more objective. As a liverpool fan i would have liked to see them play possesion football but they were all knackered after their first half exertions. when risse came off he was exhausted (and he is probably the fittest player in england). sometimes heart is required over technique and liverpool were superb mentally the whole game. no praise from dunphy for that. he's just a bitter windbag. c'mon the pool
Finally some sense. At least there's ONE english person who isn't getting ridiculously offended and lashing out with dated irish stereotypes. And by the way LFC fans who are throwing all of this abuse at the Irish people.Any fucking idea where 'The fields of anfield road' comes from?
@markus1312 to be fair Real had at least 5 very good chances in the first half alone and had shots cleared off the line , hit the post and the keeper made some decent saves , Barca were very lucky to lead at half time and its unfair to say that Madrid scored the two chances they had , the had far more good chances than Barca that night .
I think TV commentators should declare their aliances ...just like Premiership referees
@UtleyOx1989 im a liverpool fan myself and i think what dumphy means is when you listen to sky sports they would have you belive that gerrard is the greatest midfielder in the world , a one man team , paul merson called him the best player in the world on soccer saturday , thats total bolocks , he hasnt given one world class performance for his country , and ever manager he has played under has taken him out of central midfield , he is overrated and no scholes or xavi for sure
Dunphy made a name for himself by ranting on about Jack Charlton during the nineties and making shocking statements while drunk on TV. He never should have been allowed on screen again but he was a ratings winner. Since then he has courted controversy at every opportunity. Its wearing thin now imo and a little predictable. Dunphy and the rest of the RTE panel are more entertaining than the MOTD but its all stage managed and rehearsed to get a reaction.
The panel are great critics of football, but Dunphy on Gerrard is laughable.
I'm trying to work out whose judgment to trust re: Gerrard. Eamonn Dunphy's (a pissed old knob jockey) or Zinedine Zidane's (until recently the best player in the world). Hmm, a tough one.
hold on why call gerrard a nothing player? is'nt carrick more of a nothing player? for start gerrard is captain of liverpool and scored one of liverpool goals in the champions league final and he a great free kick taker and penalty and has one great shots. With carrick. Nothing but just a player!
Thes guys must have a sixth sense..theres certainly not much sign of the other 5!!!
You cant be considered a world class central midfielder if you have spent half of your career not playing there , every manager at Liverpool and England besides Hodgson and Kenny have taken him out of central midfield , his worse performances for Liverpool were when Alonso left , Gerrard cant play in central midfield and didnt get a kick against a 33 year old Milan let go for free , both Liverpool and England cant pass the ball for shit and he is the play maker , over rated simple .
Im not a moron , im just not a sheep who blindly says Gerrard can do no wrong and listens to SKY SPORTS rubbish , Liverpool and England play rubbish football , he is their captain and supposed to be their playmaker , he hasnt even given 1 worldclass performance for England against any top side or average side for that matter , his prefered position is central midfield and he was played out on the right left and behind Torres why ? because Alonso was a far better central midfielder and passer ,
He can win the Champions League and FA Cup by himself, but if you can't do it in a Last 16 match you win against Europe's best team, you're a nothing player...
Torres and Gerrard Runners?? what the hell are you talking about!
All the other 'Superstars' could learn a few things from Torres in terms of attitude.
what did ireland play at the euros. Is that football RTE?
@markus1312 i totally agree with you , right now they are nowhere near as good , but remember this vid is a couple of years old , and i was just making a point that Gerrard was not the world beater he is made out to be , and its in central midfield where they are a million miles from Spain and Dunphy is saying that in the company of real world class ie Xavi, Gerrard is nothing and i even though im a Liverpool fan agree with him.
@tony10396861
that was the season after gerrard won the PFA player of the year award. so instead of calling him a "nothing player", he should have just pointed out that he's not been in great form lately. would have made him look less an idiot.
dunphy is great , without him rte sport would be boring , whatever you think of his opinion he makes for good tv.
He told it like it was, Liverpool were lucky catenaccio bastards and their team and Benitez are getting found out in this year's champions league.
Ok i know dunphy goes over the top a bit, but if u were to watch the sky sports panel that night. they had phil thompson on the match (on both legs) and said that "liverpool were absolutly brilliant" were they? i dont think so...
dunphy, bill, giles and brady, and to a lesser extent graham sueness. legends, best show on rte. only soccer show has the balls to tell it like it is not like the bollocks you hear on bbc or sky
@laudrup90 you know what youre talking about , im a Liverpool fan and would have swapped Gerrard for Scholes any day of the week , not getting a kick for 80 mins and then scoring a screamer from 35 yards does not mean you played well in the game , ie Xavi you will never see him hammer one in from 35 yards , but you will never see him out played in midfield , and if Gerrard is one of the best central midfielders in the world why has he spent half of his career not playing in midfield ? overrated
Paddies? Very original!!! Im sure you were legless on March 17th though werent you?
Eamon Dunphy is a Liverpool fan....he doesnt hate Liverpool....he loves them. Despite this video.
These guys don't have a clue? if they tried and play like abrcelona that would have not faired well for liverpool. barcelona didn't do too much over the two legs. They were lucky to win at anfield, we bossed that first half and hit the post twice i remember.
Is this the same year liverpool where the top scoreing team in the prem and europe ? this guys a fool