WILL IT RUN outside The Car? VW TYPE 4 Engine 2.0, Porsche 914 Resurrection
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- Will it run OUT of the car? Porsche 914 Type 4 VW engine test stand run....Oil change , spark plugs, fuel lines, vacuum hoses and more. Make sure you watch the entire video. You wouldn't want to miss any of the action! =) CT's world of Rescues, revivals and restorations! Let me know what you think in the comments below. This 1976 Porsche 914 was sitting in a barn for 30 years. Lets's bring it back to life! #ct, #ctsgarage, #vwtype4, ctmoog, barn find
Hey Everyone! Try to watch all the way. You wouldn't want to miss any of the action! =) Let me know what you think in the comments!
Could be also the hydraulic lifters which make the noise
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Before you tear it down. Fix the timing advance and check the timing!! That knock sounds a bit like a timing knock to me!
If you every plan on selling that engine and transmission let me know I want to put it in my 69 Beatle.
looks like with was not knoking the day before.. and sure sounds like rod knok
This is all well done; cleaning all that stuff out, etc. I guarantee all the tins are full of crap that will hamper air circulation, hence overheat the engine. After all the gunk you found at the bottom of the crankcase and the knock we heard when you first started it; I advise not to run it again to prevent catastrophic failure and breaking internal parts.
Thanks buddy! Yes, it's going to need some love! =)
@@CTmoog What is baffling is that it had the knock when you first started it; then after you serviced it it went away for a while and then later it came back! Re the cross threaded spark plug you can use a Helicoil when you service the heads for the rebuild. There’s still hope. And those German Bosch plugs might just need a cleaning and can keep on ticking.
I agree. 2.0 parts is high price. The 2.0 engine is like gold
Clean the injectors, adjust the lifters, don’t tear it down just yet, I’ve had 914’, and 911’s. The exhaust leaks not helping, engines not getting correct back pressure. Timing off too. ADJUST BEFORE TEARDOWN!
The knocking noise is a conrod bearing, the engine oil gets warmer and thinner. I think this is the issue.
Wrong oil, too thin
if it doesn't knock for 2 or 3 minutes after a cold start, it's the connecting rod bearing
TRY REPLACING those fuel lines in the car......DONE IT.....OMG PIA.....
you should remove the injectors SNAP THEM WITH A 9v battery and shoot some carb cleaner through them then reinstall them to see if they start working. Then rebuild the engine. Injection system seems to be working. DONT HOLD THE BATTER ON THE INJECTOR SNAP IT!!!!! they run on 1 to 3 volts. putting 9v to them will ruin them if you hold it on there. Also spray electrical contact cleaner on EVERY injection contact.
You expect him to read your comment?? lol..he'll wire it up and wreck them....hoping that knock goes away too 🤣
I did not know the injectors are rated at 1 to 3 volts, thanks for this info. With a 9 volt battery adding an appropriate resistor would easily bring the voltage down.
WD-40 (W water D displacement) not for rusty bolts try PB-blaster penetrating oil or kroil penetrating oil but NOT WD-40, and not a good idea to remove spark plugs when aluminum heads are hot...
That is good info Lenny! Thank you! =)
Where was Fire Marshall Bill when ya need him :)
Hey CT,
So you one 914 really nice rebuilt engine already. And now you're going to do another one? You still have two crappy bodies. Please explain. Cos I cannot work this out.
Sincerely, Mr. Wolverine
Hey Mr. Wolverine! The 1.7 Type 4 engine we rebuilt is going in my 1972 914. I saw this 1976 914 for sale and couldn't pass it up. It was a great deal. Just having some fun with it. I'm jumping back on the Ghia this week.
I would say to much advance timing, try to roted the distriibutor when the engine is on idle to listen if you can get it beter. Then try to connect the small pipe in the vaccum advance device neer the distributor.
well once it heats up clearances get bigger. plus new oil washing out what ever mystery mixture was in the crankcase. Also I think it is difficult to determine vacuum leaks with that blown out muffler.
I think your might be right Andrew.
CT, Why not check the wires going to the spark plugs????? You have an obvious misfire and the knock is probably due to the piston being dragged around without the benefit of igniting!!!!
Looks like a rinse and repeat of the last engine rebuild. I've lost track of which one that was, you've got so many irons in the fire already.
I noticed a vacuum line missing going to the vacuum advance module! This effects the spark advance!
he actually hooked up the vac line to the retard portion of that can.......
should be the other spigot, the capped one, then set it for 28-30 degrees BTDC @ 3,000+rpm, with line plugged. Then reattach the hose to advance canister.
WELL ITS NOT KNOCKING AS BAD.......But the bottom end sounds a bit hurt.
probably would have been OK if he changed the oil before the first start
The spewing fuel sequence was a thing of beauty 😂😂😂
That engine just want's to get the suffering ended and trying the self ignite!
Could have resulted in a giant fireball.
HAHA! Thanks ! =)
So what’s going on with the other builds surely some parts have come in by now
Some really cool stuff coming soon Mark!
Hi CT, are you sure the thing is running on all four cylinders? Sounds like one is missing, especially when in idle rev.
Yea only sounds like 3 to me. I my guess is there is a injector completely plugged.
it sounds like its running on 2 cylinders only
anybody who heard it while it was in the vehicle knew it was bad. Just tear it down and rebuild, because starting it again is risking catastrophic ruin
Yes, that might be the best thing to do at this point....
I’m rebuilding a poor man’s Porsche. So, I can relate to these videos!!
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Poor man's Porsche? Especialy a 914/6 is veeery expensive in good condition today😢💰💰💰
@@jojo-sp1oy no no a poor man’s Porsche is a Chevy Corvair!!
@@mikeconnelly7032 hello Mike, right. And i like the body shape of the Chevy Corvair, little bit sporty...😂
@@jojo-sp1oy sorry!! It’s a 65 CORSA evening orchid paint
I was just waiting for an explosion and fire.
CT I hear the knock you had last time.Rod Berings Dont Grenade that engine CT, time for a tear down and Rebuild..
Definitely rod knock! Time for tare down and rebuild with Darin. I’m going to have to do that on my 914, soon, but she’s my daily, until I can get my VW Beetle across the finish line, for real. Every time I think I’m done with the restoration, something else breaks or leaks or fails. I’ll never do another restoration. That was hell and too expensive. I should have bought somebody else’s “finished” project, it would have been less expensive.
Hey Will! What engine do you have in your 914? Fuel injection or carbs?
@@CTmoog Rosie is a 1975, and was a 1.8 EFI.
She was converted to Weber carburetors when the PO could not make the 1.8L EFI work on the 2.0L engine he built. Searching the internet, one will discover the EFI for 2.0L is different than that of the 1.8 & 1.7.
Because the 2.0L EFI was hard to find and more expensive than converting to Carburetors, Rosie is now carbureted.
Im glad you’re working with Darin. I wish I could afford to have him build me a 3.0L flat6 Porsche engine. Because of the problems with my bug, I’ve learned the line bore is one of, if not the most important parts of rebuilding the motor. As for any other options, reliability & durability are top on my list with 914’s, because the transmissions suck, and it’s too easy to stuff it into 2nd when going for 4th at high load & RPM, thus spinning a bearing, tapping a valve on a piston, or if you’re lucky, just breaking a valve spring. I’d love to have a g50 or even a 915 transmission in mine. Dreams…
Sounds like rod knock to me which will get worse as the engine oil warms up, probably why it was originally parked.
Yes, I think you are correct!
memories,,, i bought new 74 914 1.8 (5783.00) ,what fun and amazing handling ,sold it 8 yrs, with 137,00 miles 5250.00,calif. car I have an orig. dealer color booklet,fondest memory ,LA to San Diego(actually Tijuana,MX. drove it down toll road to EnsenadMX top off along the Pacific coast. ps I could've bought 911T new 11800.00 but happpppy with my choice yours is 75 or 76 right
i use side cutters on old clamps...safer when you have fuel all over..including your UNDIES!! 🤣
A dremel tool has tiny cutoff discs..handier than your big cutoff disc..try not to wreck stuff doing it carelessly
22:08 onwards best shot I have seen. I couldnt help but laugh. It was just like a comedy clip. How many were shouting " Behind you" ? lol
If it was my car all of the $ would be for structural & mechanical. I would approach the cosmetic side Vie Grip style. edit: I truly thought you were trying to blow that motor up. Not sure why you kept sending it after you got her going.
Do you gents actually restore em' to fresh painted, good-looking road machines?, or do you leave em' junk yard, Sanford and Son rust mobiles?
wauw....oil 5W-30 is absolutely not a oil for that old engine, it's too thin!!...even for testing I would not recommend it !!
It’s really sad that you trash all of these cars. You call them “full build” or “full restoration” but do nothing other than disassemble and half ass weld in some parts and move on to the next clickbait title.
I'd say at least 2 injectors are blocked or not working, or a bad spark or both...Dragging dead cylinders is never a good idea, particularly if its lack of spark, the unburned petrol will wash the cylinders of lubricant....🤔😳😳🇬🇧
I LOVE this!!!! My first car was a 1969 VW Type I (Bug) and many of my friends had similar cars (my rich friend had a Karmann Ghia and did body work, but no engine work). We rebuilt and modified the engines several times to make them faster (mine was faster than a Porsche 912 in a race MANY decades ago). I considered buying a 914 (really wanted the 6 cylinder), but I was tall back then and could not fit. This brings back a LOT of memories and we used the 'How To Keep Your Volkswagen Alive' manual', since there was no internet. We had issues with the 'soft' metal in several engines and had machine companies do a 'heli coil' thread repair. This brings back a LOT of memories. THANK YOU!
Thanks Will! Sound like you had a fast VW man!
With the heat build up the oil got thin I would think then the knock come back
Geez...you have more luck then sense. Be more careful and ask someone who can do that with mechanics..... to help you.
When you said that you could feel metal I already knew the motor was trashed. But it will be nice to just fix just the floor and the front trunk area and just keep it dirty.
Why in the hell would you want to reuse old dirty fuel you know you’re not doing your injectors or valves any good!?!?!?!
5weight oil is deadly to older vehicle bearings.. Fuel injectors need tlc. At this point you might try running sae 50 weight motorcycle oil in it with zinc additive
It’s knock knock knocking on heavens door
HAHA! =) Great song!
Hey CT. Maybe the knock is because you weren’t running your oil with the zinc in it. Keep on truckin.
I’ve seen you start 10 different projects, and haven’t finished anything yet!!
Wow your are so lucky the gas was centimeters close to you
you should have one helper with you at least be safe bro.
The injectors seals is way the engine rough idling
ok I will try to replace them this week. Maybe that will help.
22:12 Run away fast
No worries mate, those white hot sparks, the Gasoline will cool it down.?
Complimenti sei riuscito, da come è ridotta sembra che vuole rivivere👍👍👍👍
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Hello ,
your car runs on 3 cylinders instead of 4
it's not very good for the crankshaft
eric from France
i was laughing so hard i almost died at 22:10 you had no clue😂😂😂
like you made a pretty fountain though.
HAHA! Thanks!!! =)
Cool CT, I liked the way you had some fun and increased your knowledge with the engine out. Will you do a compression test?
Thanks Phil! Yes, I will check a few more things before taking it apart.
Cool videos! Ah German engeneering, still interesting after all these years. The peoples car. Porsche is VW. All the same animal. My 951 has some Vw parts on it, Audie etc. Thats cool, and non VW folks, a extremely powerful 4 turboed vw engine powers the Bugatti Veyron to over 220 mph. German Tech, the best!
Thanks man! Very cool!
I had 1972 914 back in the eighties. One of the first things I did was switch to carbs. These old fuel injection systems just love to leak.
Probably has a rod bearing that's about gone. Don't run it any more.
I’m shocked you didn’t do a compression test on each cylinder or checked which cylinder is missing. Keep it up
I was planning on it but got distracted and forgot. I will check them this week.
@@CTmoog Believe you're going to need to go into that engine - split the case halves. It will never be reliable as it is.
@@CTmoog Compression test will give you an idea of the engine condition and you can take it from there. We don't know what your plans are, are you rebuilding the whole engine or just cleaning it up and driving the car as is. If you run it with a carburetor then fine but if you run the car with fuel injection then do take care of fire hazards by replacing proper factory spec fuel lines.
@Burek its a volkswagen engine at germany it called Hausfrauen prosche (housewifes prosche ) im german this engine was used in the volkswagen bus (volkswagen t3) and other
This engine is dead the knock is from connecting rod
Greetings from germany im a opel guy
I saw the transaxle turning when you cranked it. Is it in neutral?
Dude, go watch the last episode of junkyard digs. Where they were working on a 6-cylinder that was knocking just like your motor. He put new bearings in the bottom end and stopped the knocking on that engine. Sounds to me like you need new bearings. Good luck with that.
Thanks Keith! I will check it out. I hope that's all it is...=)
Bring back Memory's I bought a 1974back in the mid 80's and when I got it running it was leaking more gas than what was going in that motor, so I got rid of the fuel injection system and put a 2 barrel carb on it
Thanks Jim!
This dude has so many unfinished projects it's ridiculous
Check for spark on all 4. Cheers from Jacksonville Florida 🌞
Thanks James! I will this week.
Good job Chris! Lets hope some new bearings and a freshen up cures that knock.
Looks good from doing it outside of the car with the system and others. Great Video! Keep up the great work! 👍
I always use a full qt. Of marvel m.o. on every oil change bud....may help that old engine...you come a long ways men... cheers!
Good idea! Thank you! =)
Omg I laughed my ass off that gasoline was just gushing 3 feet in the air behind you let alone the other places it was spraying. I love the video
HAHA! Thanks ! It was a bit crazy! =)
Watching from Toronto Canada 🇨🇦
Great job as always
Where's the swamp dragon ??
Awesome! I visited Toronto years ago. Swamp Dragon will return! Stay Tuned! =) Thank you!
CT, you took quite a bit of time trying to get that engine running in the car when you first picked it up. Why didn’t you change the oil before trying to get it running? You should have run a compression test on it before attempting to start it. The way you’re approaching this really is the wrong way. Also, if you don’t already have one, get an automotive lift. That will speed things up for you pretty dramatically 👍🏻
I almost fell out the chair laughing when that motor spray gas right on.ur butt. Omg your too funny but didn't get mad and kept moving on. Awesome attitude for sure
Thanks man! HAHA! =)
Your actions are a bit adventurous, but you get there and that's the main thing!👍👌😎
Thank you! =) I like to live on the edge sometimes!
My fuel lines exploded on me on the German Autobahn. It was in 1984. Pretty scary but i fixed it myself.
I yet to see a finished project, lol!
The new spark plugs are nearly the same. The "R" stands for "resistor".
Thanks man! Good to know. =)
Great to see how u had got the last stubborn spark plug out in the end,,,,It might even run better now u have all new spark plugs and the ignition timing set right.
But yes,,,that knocking sound must b internal,,,in the hydraulic lifters,,,etc.
Hey Nick! Yes, it finally came out.
@@CTmoog And u had got hit with high pressure fuel squirting out on your back and butt too,,,sort of looked funny,,,with that one,,,and quite a few fuel leaks around the engine too!
Need’s valve ajustment
Did you start it up after you changed that last plug? It had a bad miss. Also did you clean the fuel injectors? Lastly that knock might be the clutch or something like that.
Hey James, no I didn't. I will try that and clean the injectors. Maybe that will help. It seemed like the knock wasn't there at first and then it was really bad...But there was a few mints where it sounded pretty good.
Try replacing that bad plug and also a cogged injector. Or a few clogged injectors will cause a knock. Grab a cut piece of garden hose to put to your ear and to each cylinder to figure what cylinder is knocking LISTEN through the hose like a Doctor to your ❤
Sounds like some bottom end knock !
Hey ct pull the rocker covers off sounds like a stuck valve
Ok Dave, I'll try that this week. Thanks man!
Porsche HP VS VW Ghia HP???
where is karmanghia man?
where is karmanghia man?
where is karmanghia man?
I'm working on it now. New video next week. Thank you! =)
Loved this video you had me worried with all that gas but you prevailed in the end as always! Thank you!
Thanks Thad! It was a bit scary! =)
Take the muffler box off, allow it to breath, then block the vacuum leak and pull plug leads one at a time, it will tell you which cylinder is not firing
CT this was the funniest episode you have done absolutely in stitches 🤣
Thanks man! =) I appreciate that!
didn't knock maybe because of the thick oil it had in it
Yes, you might be right. I'm taking it apart now to see what's going on with it.
I like to run those fuel pumps in a bucket of diesel
Good idea. I'll try that on the other one.
Hi there, Mr.CT.. Playing with fire,ah? Yooo, just adverted danger, grinding clamps on the engine wet in fuel, car and your shirt wet on the back... man, you're playing really hard! I'm not such a risk taker as the situation might become very entertaining instantly.. and you might start some wildfires in Florida... that would be quite a change.. =) Also I like to live dangerous, just in anoher way.. We are all red under the skin! Nice experimenting, but it really runs on 2 cylinders. I think it's time to crush the nut and crack it open. Who knows what you might find inside?! Let it be a surprise. =) Keep on!
Great video
Thanks Ray! =)
8 dollars for a can is nothing. We pay around 20 for that amount of oil here. I put full synthetic in my oldtimer. Like the previous three owners did. Works like a charm apparently on my 78’ volvo. It’s always nice watching your videos, sometimes trying some stuff. And in my head I’m already like oh no, that’s not how it should go. But then I remind myself that I know jack shit of most of the other things. It’s fun exploring and trying things out you haven’t done before. Not being too perfect about it on TH-cam. Love that. Keep going, learning a lot from you as well
Ok, So I watched 'till then end, kinda, fast forwarded and reversed and forward again.
Good on you for having a go but painful at the same time.
It'll be a lovely thing by the time you finish it and you'll be so much older and wiser.
Cheers Mooks
This is the luckiest guy! He soaks the floor with gas from numerous leaks, and could have saved some time locating the leaks if he had reviewed his own video! He then get his butt soaked! Fortunately, the whole thing didn't go up in flames when he used the cutting wheel on the clamps! Yes, he is one lucky dude. I'd laugh, but burns are no fun, and hard to get over. As to the rough running, Auto Pilot has some good points, and the injectors could be the source of your troubles, or the plug that you may not have changed, since it didn't want to come out. Also VW's, which is what this engine is, are notorious for valve adjustment neglect.
Fuel injection is high pressure...compared to carb pump...clamp the damn lines...return you put in a container....high pressure flow for fuel injection!
Yes you get some pressure before injectors and returning to tank...
Love it!Love it! I love those VW aircooled engines I have one just like that minus the electronics, would love to switch from carburetor to that system, do you have and extra one with brain and things, Billy here from Jamaica, let me know Bro,Bug to the World
Holy fire hazards CT. Glad you had a fire extinguisher near by. Looking forward to the tear down. Will it be a spun bearing?? :-)
I didn't realise that it was fuel injected. Otherwise it looks like a standard VW engine.
Hey is that Adrian from the Young ones? =) Love that show! Yes, it's a Type 4 VW engine. They used them in all the buses, 914s, and a few other cars from 1970 to 1980 give or take a couple years....Some of them had carburators and some had fuel injection.
@@CTmoog Yes Adrian, Love the boys from Scumbag University 🍻✌️
Vyvyan It auto corrected.
Considering it had been sitting for decades, had an improperly pressurized fuel system, and an audible massive vacuum leak, that engine actually ran relatively well. I'm surprised that it ran at all.
Dude, enjoy your channel, but, c'mon, get yourself a hands free cam mount. Headband, necksling, something. One handed is yesterday, bro.
I enjoy watching CT's restoration Kits and obviously 190000 other people do also. Can't wait to see what will be your next victim.
Weren’t you already aware of the engine running like shit and having a bad knock. I knew that before the show even started. You could have saved the 4 gallons of gas that you leaked all over the floor and across the room when you were staring into space. Light a match!
Are there any bare connectors or metal that can short out under that fuse panel sitting on your car??
stick some rubber or anything non conductive under it to be safe...make sure nothing can ground out to body ....you don't want to cause more problems...a floor mat or truck mud flap is enough to do it...cardboard too...but that is flammable..lol.
As I was watching you cranking the engine I was screaming heyyy you got gas leak 😁😁 I always enjoy and learn from your videos 👍👍
Certainly had a few fuel leak issues around the engine,,,,bit of a fire hazzard there. Good to hear that u do have a fire extinguisher close by,,,,just in case!!!
Try an actual penetrating oil. you'll be amazed with one compared to wd40
Hi new to your channel I really enjoyed the TYPE 4 videos Binged em lol
You worked hard on it and it was a lot of fun Subbed and 👍 See ya on the next one bud
You better quit while you are still alive. In all this time you still haven't thought to pull the valve covers or check the compression. Probably stuck valves.