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You are correct it does work on a single item not the bundle when you buy for example the wave and battery, their discount is already added and yours can not be added on top of that
@@cliff185026 Nope. Works with the bundles too... EcoFlow Wave Portable Air Conditioner + DELTA Pro Sale price $4,249.00 DISCOUNT:HOBOTECHWAVE (-$50.00)
This is a great product for anyone that does not already have a battery bank and inverter and has a small area to cool. if you don't, buy this and an Eco flow power station together, or the battery they made for it. If you already have a battery bank and inverter you should just get a cheaper inverter window unit for around 400 dollars, you will have more btus which is how you measure cooling capacity. 12000 btus is 1 ton of cooling which will cool 500 square ft. this unit is 1/3 ton so it is made to cool about 200 sqaure ft area.
I disagree regarding buying the attached battery. It is an $800 to $900 battery who’s sole purpose is to power the EcoFlow Wave. If the Wave breaks, the battery is useless. You are paying a lot of money for a battery that you will probably use only 3 months a year. EcoFlow could easily had given the battery the capability to charge a phone, tablet, or computer. I would only consider buying this if you had a real need and had a Delta Max or Delta Pro. Otherwise it is way too much money if you have to buy a battery that does nothing else but run the Wave for 3 months a year. I predict EcoFlow will have to give the battery more capability and I would hold off buying it until they do. They rushed this product to the market place without responding to any questions. I think it will impact their sales.
@@gary860 Well, I agree with you on the battery. Which is why I suggested the delta power station first. I would always choose the power station over the battery they made for this unit. Personally, this thing is way to expensive for what it does, same with the zero breeze, this is not new tech, It is just very expensive for less cooling than with a window unit. But you still save money buying this if you dont already have a set up with batteries and an inverter than buying this and a whole battery system and everything you need to charge it.
The Mark 2 is great if you get it at the openbox price and if your use case is to spot-cool. I owned it for a few months and it's a great product. The Ecoflow wave is far, far more powerful and well-rounded with real thermostat control as all air conditioners should have.
The manufacturers need to understand that solar generators are largely used in emergencies and need a variety of charging and supplemental battery options. Users will reward those that give them more options! I wish for "junk charging" and "junk supplemental battery" ports that can take anything from 10v DC to 120v DC. :)
Can I hook 2 delta batteries together in parallel to have it power my RV with twice the storage? Or can I stack 2 together with shared common to run split phase 220v and run my well?
I strongly believe with zero breeze starting this portable AC units a while back. Then another company jumped on it now This unit won’t be long for other companies following along. Only matter of time… why would a person want to hack this unit. It’s in my option crazy. Blow the unit up break it or worse get them self’s hurt CRAZY it is. PROFESSOR HOBO keep um coming. I hope Bluetti jumps on the AC unit soon. Love my Bluetti’s
A different question that I haven’t seen done. And this would be useless and make no sense but, Can you plug an electric generator into itself? What would happen? Charge itself???
Hey thanks for trying. The easiest solution is going to be for EcoFlow to come out with an optional adapter for other sources. That is if they want to sell mor AC’s .
I have to agree it already comes with a way to run off universal AC. If you want to run off DC your options are to do what I show in this video, get their $600 battery, or one of their Delta products. Ecoflow has always been the higher priced "Apple" of the battery brands and many have no problem paying the premium for higher end products. Ecoflow has no incentive to allow folks to use other brands to run their a/c.
You've created this channel to show and share your personality and insightful knowledge on a great many things that are of interest to a great # of people. Based on your sound advice and knowledgeable recommendations, people, in turn, come to you for answers. Thought that was kind of the point. Now you seem irritated that people seek your input. Seems to me there's a wide ranging # of smart, dull, slow and even wise people that care about what you've offered up to us all to think about and learn from. Sometimes I'm smarter than your average gummy bear. Sometimes, regarding certain things, I'm not. But in this case, I detect some frustration and or annoyance directed at us loyal supporters of what we "thought" you were offering. Was gonna ask you why the sky is blue. Figured it out. The sky is blue because it's sad. Maybe take a break and some time away. I don't "think" your supporters are intentionally trying to irritate you. Seems as though some have.
@@Chubbydippin He gets sent these products to review, not so he can hack job it, so you can save a few pennies at the risk of people electrocuting themselves, or worse, suing him. Now stop pretending to be some 'loyal' viewer and let the man do what he does which is provide information on products. He's already stated that the unit wasn't meant to run without the intended cable and you come in here saying he's irritated. Hell I'd be irritated too all things considered. Your post is neither productive nor supportive of anything. You're just annoying. Hobotech, keep doing what you're doing man, ignore these useless twats.
5:00 couldn't you put in a diode between the ecoflow battery and the other external 52V, so that there is no backflow voltage back to the ecoflow battery?
@@HOBOTECH well, i'm talking about hooking a different external battery the way you had it hooked up at 5:00 .... but you were worried about backfeeding the ecoflow battery and possibly damaging it's bms, etc. but a diode would prevent that backflow. a simple diode may be the solution.
Use a Delta 2 instead of the Wave 2 battery and you can put in 15 amps instead of 8. My Delta 2 shows 370-380w incoming when using two 12v batteries in series for 24v.
I have tested some window ACs and it used less power with the fan on high since the inside and outside fan are coupled if you turn the fan to low the power drops but it climbs back up because the outside fan is slower and I assume the pressures get higher and the compressor has to work harder and it wasn't a big difference but it was there and not working the compressor harder is probably a good thing
Hobo, quick question: I’ve got the wave packaged with the Delta Max. Following the directions, I connected the extra battery cable from the wave to the delta max. The wave powers up but won’t engage the fan or compressor. But when I connect the ac cord and run that to the Max, works fine. The instructions are incorrect.
UPDATE: What Ecoflow doesn’t tell you is that your Wave unit may need a firmware update. My unit wouldn’t power up using the battery cable to my Delta Max. I connected the app to my Wave, updated the firmware, and voilà! Now the Wave connected to DC on the Delta Max works just fine.
It is interesting to note how many people don't want to run the air conditioner off of another EcoFlow Product. 😳 I wonder why that is ? 👀 Could it be the EcoFlow Power Generators are just too expensive for what they are and people are unwilling to pay a premium price for a name ? 👀
Ecoflow has always been the higher priced "Apple" of the battery brands and many have no problem paying the premium for higher end products. I think the problem more is that most don't want to buy a Delta just to run this a/c unit and aren't thinking about the other uses for a top end solar generator.
@@HOBOTECH I calculate, if you want to embrace the EcoFlow 220 VOLT AC, dual phase battery backup solution to run your house for 4 to 5 days at a time, then you will need to pay EcoFlow the premium price of $23,000.00 USD for the privilege. 😳🥺👎🏻
Actually a pair of Delta Pro with the double voltage hub for 240v operation would be under $8000. If you want to run for days on emergency power then yes you would want to add batteries to that. However, to run my 240v house for days cost me well over $25k in DIY equipment and that's building my own batteries from raw cells so is Ecoflow really that much more?
@@HOBOTECH I would say no, but my point is the whole setup is still costing such a high premium that there are not many folks who can afford to shell out this kind of money. There's the $8,000.00 USD just to get you in the door with a functional system which will run your entire house for a few hours, then there's the real cost you need to pay in order to buy enough battery storage to facilitate a practical running time, and then there's the need to feed that extra battery system with enough solar panels to actually keep that system in full opeartion (2,500 + Watts of panels at least). It's an entreprise operation solution required. This is just too complicated and too much cash for the average person. Hopefully, in the future, we will have more affordable turn key solutions from these same manufacturers ?
@@markjob6354 This is actually one of the SIMPLEST solutions for home backup which is why it costs more. If you go the DIY route it will save you money assuming you know what you're actually doing which most don't. DIY can get extremely complicated. These Ecoflow units are meant for emergency use to power critical loads during a blackout and not a 30kwh/day home with every appliance running. For that you need a $50k+ solution. Apples to oranges. If you do wire the Ecoflow into your home you can write off 26% of the cost of the entire system (including panels) through the current federal solar tax credit. Ecoflow grosses tens of millions in sales per year so someone has to be buying them...
hey hobo, so I live in south florida and I am looking for a unit that can handle my full size refrigerator during hurricane season power outages. what do you recommend? thanks
Anything with at least a 1000w inverter and at least 1000wh battery. (This will get you around 7hrs depending on your AC power requirements) Skip the jackery and look at bluetti and ecoflow.
I'd look at the larger modular units(200p or max or 300) Bluetti has or the 500. 500 is a whole house unit. Maxed out modulars & 500 can hook to your panel box if you like.
Really need to have a product manual that has the internal schematics and motor and system in the cooling unit b4 doing anything other than using the equipment intended to run it. So most likely less than 2000 BTU the way you got it running through the 24 volt solar port. Any link to the real technical manuals?
EcoFlow is the Apple of all they do…the bigger PPS-Portable Power Stations are iMac comparable and the wave is the iPhone…I can’t wait for more….course the smaller PPS units are great too….the are apple II etc
I get why EcoFlow does this. When a compressor kicks on, there is a heavy load; unless the power input can handle it, there could be issues. For a battery, the BMS might not be able to handle the load. I will use a power inverter feed by a battery. I know there will be some loss from the inverter, but it is a HELL of a lot cheaper than the $800.00 battery add-on. targeting 800-1000w inverter. I'll test with a Giandel 600w with a surge capacity of 1200w first.
Would you be able to do a 100ah lifepo 4 battery with a 12 to 24v booster off of it? The lifepo4 batteries I have unfortunately can not be put into series.
The part where you connect 24VDC to the wave while it is running and demonstrate a readout on the wave indicating a longer run time is encouraging. Ecoflow said on their FB forum that you could not simultaneously run the unit and charge the battery with the DC cable. They said this was due to the 200w solar charging limitation. So I assumed that while the unit was running that the DC charging circuit would be disabled.
@@HOBOTECH Perhaps the Wave is simply ingesting the power from your custom DC source and supplementing itself from the battery as needed? That, too, could explain the longer battery life. Would have been great to see an example using a step up converter. I can see many 12v VanLifers willing to go this route if they could leverage existing solar/lithium options.
Probably doesn't apply to this particular EF 48vdc cable, BUUUUT 'some' companies add what are basically dummy pins to create a proprietary cable; sometimes with pin(s) powering a useless LED.
Hello! I have a Bluetti AC300. If I am understanding the video correctly, I would need a cable that goes from the Bluetti's 24V DC output to the Wave's DC input -- the yellow input, correct? -- it looks like maybe an XT60 or 90? Can you post if there is such a cable to be bought, or will I have to make one. Thanks!!
Sorry, I did not make myself clear. I think in this video, you used an adapter (that you sell on your website) and the AC300s, 24V DC 10A cigarette lighter plug to charge the wave battery through its solar port. Can you do this also with the Wave 2? I am trying to figure out how to use AC300 with the Wave 2, if possible. I am also trying not to turn on the AC300s inverter if I do not have to Thank you, and thank you for these Videos. @@HOBOTECH
Thanks Hobo, EcoFlow has a XT60 solar hook up (as you showed hooked into a lifepo4 battery) and a XT60 cigarette lighter charger hook up. For the purpose of hooking into a 200amp 24 volt lifepo4 battery would one be preferred over the other?
I tried to download the manual from the EcoFlow site but received an error message. How can the battery be charged? Is it a proprietary charging system?
Hi! I was wondering if you seen my question on your review of the new Jackery? I have a trailer with factory solar. I also have a Jackery and Jackery solar panel. I had a solar plug put on my trailer to use a solar suitcase for more charging power. I like to use the Jackery solar panel but … it has that dedicated 8 mm plug and does not have a controller attached. What adapters do I need to run the panel to the controller then to the plug??? I think the hard part is the solar panel to controller.
If I am understanding your question correctly, we would have to know what type of solar plug you have installed on your trailer, and if that plug runs directly to a solar controller or not. The short answer is that you'll need an adapter that converts the Jackery's 8mm barrel plug to whatever type of solar plug is on your trailer. The proper path should be: solar panel ->adapter->solar plug->controller->battery. If it's one of those Zamp solar plugs, you may have to replace that as well with something less proprietary.
@@twloughlin Yes this was an add on plug which looks like that typical m4 plug. When it was added it was hooked directly to the battery. Your answer in what order it goes really helps. Most suitcase solar have the controller on the backside of panel. Working with the Jackery panel. So in this case and with suitcase with a built on controller…. The controller is what plugs in to outside of rv. The solar panel is plug into the controller. Does that sound right. ??? If so I need an adapter for the solar panel with 8mm female and on the other end just wire ends. Then I need a cable that is wire ends with a M4 connector at the other end for the rv plug. ??????
@@tjphoto8943 Assuming you are working with a solar suitcase that has a controller on the back and NOT the Jackery panel, my guess is that all you would need would be an adapter from the PV output wire of the suitcase solar panel (is it an 8mm barrel plug?) to convert it to an MP4 plug that will plug into your trailer's solar plug. Obviously you need to make sure that the male/female connections are correct (only one way they can plug together) and you have the correct polarity going into the trailer plug. Prof. Hobo has a slew of adapters on his page (see his link above); one of them should probably work. Using the Jackery would require that you have an external solar controller mounted somewhere between the solar panel and the plug. Since you say the plug is hardwired to the battery, the controller has to be installed before the plug. The Professor has solar controllers on his Amazon page as well. I hope I've understood you correctly.
Those pins are definitely data pins. It may short some of those pins to turn it on. With a schematic, it's probably possible, but obviously not recommended. The 24V battery idea is good, but I'm not sure if I would trust the regulation circutry on the solar charge controller. I'd probably put some sort of current limiter in front of it for safety. At around 220W-250W at 24v.
@@noahpan496 Unfortunately I don't. If I did, I'd share. Someone has had to have ripped one apart by now. Best guess is they are voltage sense m/reference pins or some sort of pwm style cann bus, like door latch sensors in modern cars.
i actually opened up my ecoflow wave today and got the pin out. The pins listed on the board, SIGIN2, SIGIN1, SIGOUT, WAKEUP, CAN-L, CAN-H. You are right, it is communicated through CAN protocol, I presume the first three, SIGIN2, SIGIN1, and SIGOUT are for the display. I am going to try to apply 5v to the WAKEUP pin to see if it comes up, while applying 52v to the exterior pins.
Thank you for this! I almost bought myself a wave 2 thinking I could run it off my LifeP04. I hate when manufacturers get into proprietary systems. Screw EcoFlow. Not for me!
U r a genius person. If I have all these devices in my room. My mother will definitely kills me one day 😂💔 but it’s fun to see the experiments that you love to do. Thanks to make our ideas true 😂❤
Hobo. Can you help me? Eco Flow support is having a hard time understanding my question 🤔. Technically can I run 25 feet of duct? Will the ac operate normally? Thanks
Hey hobo just a question I take core of 6 fish tanks and iv been the power outages they warn about and I was wondering if and any suggestions on a ups battery back all of my water pumps and lights are 12 volt but what I worry many is the air pump I have a full room system that runs off one air pump what would be you ideas on how I'd get a ups to run it for 8 hours minimum and maybe 12 worse case. I live in an apartment and they don't allow solar I tried they got mad
Professor: I have only 1 question….WHY would anyone would want to try a hack, considering the time, expense, and the potential for personal injury/product damage to this obviously pricey product???
Maybe the professor is showing what can happen if you do what you shouldn't? You know someone out there, with less knowledge than the prof, is gonna try it.
Because people do dumb things to save a buck. I think the way they marketed the pricy bundles was poor. They sell bundles with expensive battery generators and don't explain why you should get the generator too. Its NOT just for running the a/c but has a million uses of its own including home backup. This is what folks are paying for. Most just look at how much it costs with a battery generator and say "I'm not paying $2500 for an air conditioner!" when the reality is the a/c is actually just an add-on product!
Wow, maybe edit the suggestion list to stuff mentioned in this video. You reference a power cord adapter on your Amazon page but I couldn't find it among all the things not mentioned in this video. Ugh
Crazy Ecoflow thinking by capping the solar DC input with 12-30v 8A. If they made it 16A it would have been perfect for DIY battery (solar) hookup and a lot more of these standalone Ecoflow AC´s with battery would be sold. Now you can´t run it indefinitely on DC, still have to buy an included battery and use it only with AC wall power.
I know that you are sick of doing refrigerator/freezer reviews. If you can find the time would you please review the Bougerv CC55 it's a 59qt refrigerator/freezer I've never seen a review on one. Thank you for the great reviews. Keep up the good work
Thank you for your sensational trick i will convert it to extend the runtime of an Eco Flo with a smaller Jacorey by using 12 V output into the EcoFlow to extent The runtime of my freezer Because the smaller jackery cannot run the freezer And an extension battery is for me to expensive
SMOKING two packs of Cigarettes a day is actually good for you. If you drill a hole in the package and solder a jumper fitting on it. But do not try it if you are left handed because it will only work during certain hours of the day.
Love your show! Guess it's okay to call you Hobo since it's in the channel name and I don't know your name IRL. I'm not even a novice tech but it seems they're trying to crave a nitch in the outdoor/ DIY camper world. These would also be great in the trucking industry too. (If you have the power to run it)Even though trucks can start and stop with a thermostat. Not really sure I'd spend all that money on it to begin with though. It does stink that they have it set up the way they did but teething problems happen. I hope the people that have a need for this get the answers they need from this video. Did Bluetti up date they 3,00 so all the batteries can charge from the head/inverter unit?
I wouldn't be surprised if some dodgy cable turns up on Alibaba soon to allow for universal DC charging , but I wonder if that will be defeated by a firmware update.
Tom I be wondering if this unit can talk to the Renology' unit outside on it's pad ? I like where your going with the idea that these units work with parameters set in stone Hell Boy . T/C/E
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When you add code, the cost goes up over what they’re currently offering. FYI
@@cliff185026 Just tried the code. Works fine. "HOBOTECHWAVE (-$50.00)"
You are correct it does work on a single item not the bundle when you buy for example the wave and battery, their discount is already added and yours can not be added on top of that
@@cliff185026 Nope. Works with the bundles too... EcoFlow Wave Portable Air Conditioner + DELTA Pro Sale price $4,249.00
DISCOUNT:HOBOTECHWAVE (-$50.00)
No support from EcoFlow!
Hey Hobo, can I connect the EcoFlow Delta to my Radio Shack gray-and-red flashlight I got with my free coupon in 1977?
Lol
I actually remember that! 😲🤣👍
Radio Shack, those were the days.
The answer is maybe 🤔
BECAUSE….
The flashlight 🔦 ships with no batteries😅
SO……
Did you buy them?
This is exactly the channel I was looking for that I couldn't find.
THANK YOU!
I would definitely need something like this to cool down my tent and charging it thru solar panels is a plus.
This is a great product for anyone that does not already have a battery bank and inverter and has a small area to cool. if you don't, buy this and an Eco flow power station together, or the battery they made for it. If you already have a battery bank and inverter you should just get a cheaper inverter window unit for around 400 dollars, you will have more btus which is how you measure cooling capacity. 12000 btus is 1 ton of cooling which will cool 500 square ft. this unit is 1/3 ton so it is made to cool about 200 sqaure ft area.
I disagree regarding buying the attached battery. It is an $800 to $900 battery who’s sole purpose is to power the EcoFlow Wave. If the Wave breaks, the battery is useless. You are paying a lot of money for a battery that you will probably use only 3 months a year. EcoFlow could easily had given the battery the capability to charge a phone, tablet, or computer. I would only consider buying this if you had a real need and had a Delta Max or Delta Pro. Otherwise it is way too much money if you have to buy a battery that does nothing else but run the Wave for 3 months a year. I predict EcoFlow will have to give the battery more capability and I would hold off buying it until they do. They rushed this product to the market place without responding to any questions. I think it will impact their sales.
@@gary860 Well, I agree with you on the battery. Which is why I suggested the delta power station first. I would always choose the power station over the battery they made for this unit. Personally, this thing is way to expensive for what it does, same with the zero breeze, this is not new tech, It is just very expensive for less cooling than with a window unit. But you still save money buying this if you dont already have a set up with batteries and an inverter than buying this and a whole battery system and everything you need to charge it.
Professor HOBO is all knowing! MUST ASK HIM THE SAME QUESTIONS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I was supposed to get the Mark 2, but when I saw that the Wave has 4000BTUs, it was a no brainer.
The Mark 2 is great if you get it at the openbox price and if your use case is to spot-cool. I owned it for a few months and it's a great product. The Ecoflow wave is far, far more powerful and well-rounded with real thermostat control as all air conditioners should have.
the wave 2 is more powerful, right?
The manufacturers need to understand that solar generators are largely used in emergencies and need a variety of charging and supplemental battery options. Users will reward those that give them more options! I wish for "junk charging" and "junk supplemental battery" ports that can take anything from 10v DC to 120v DC. :)
Can I hook 2 delta batteries together in parallel to have it power my RV with twice the storage?
Or can I stack 2 together with shared common to run split phase 220v and run my well?
Can I hook this up to my.......Just Kidding. Great video thanks
Can't wait to see how you hook up to the iss
Talking to Elon about this now...
I strongly believe with zero breeze starting this portable AC units a while back. Then another company jumped on it now This unit won’t be long for other companies following along. Only matter of time… why would a person want to hack this unit. It’s in my option crazy. Blow the unit up break it or worse get them self’s hurt CRAZY it is. PROFESSOR HOBO keep um coming. I hope Bluetti jumps on the AC unit soon. Love my Bluetti’s
People do anything to save a buck ...
@@HOBOTECH I guess so mr Professor but missing with that and that amount of juice is out of my pay grade…..💥💥🎩
Interesting as always. My real question: when is Bluetti coming out with theirs. 😉
exactly my thoughts! ... I suspect it's in pre production testing now ...
@@zingbopdelux Man, that be cool!
A different question that I haven’t seen done. And this would be useless and make no sense but, Can you plug an electric generator into itself? What would happen? Charge itself???
Hey thanks for trying. The easiest solution is going to be for EcoFlow to come out with an optional adapter for other sources. That is if they want to sell mor AC’s .
They have one.... it's called the AC cord.
I have to agree it already comes with a way to run off universal AC. If you want to run off DC your options are to do what I show in this video, get their $600 battery, or one of their Delta products. Ecoflow has always been the higher priced "Apple" of the battery brands and many have no problem paying the premium for higher end products. Ecoflow has no incentive to allow folks to use other brands to run their a/c.
You've created this channel to show and share your personality and insightful knowledge on a great many things that are of interest to a great # of people. Based on your sound advice and knowledgeable recommendations, people, in turn, come to you for answers. Thought that was kind of the point. Now you seem irritated that people seek your input. Seems to me there's a wide ranging # of smart, dull, slow and even wise people that care about what you've offered up to us all to think about and learn from. Sometimes I'm smarter than your average gummy bear. Sometimes, regarding certain things, I'm not. But in this case, I detect some frustration and or annoyance directed at us loyal supporters of what we "thought" you were offering. Was gonna ask you why the sky is blue. Figured it out. The sky is blue because it's sad. Maybe take a break and some time away. I don't "think" your supporters are intentionally trying to irritate you. Seems as though some have.
@@Chubbydippin what a dbag. Get a life.
@@Chubbydippin He gets sent these products to review, not so he can hack job it, so you can save a few pennies at the risk of people electrocuting themselves, or worse, suing him.
Now stop pretending to be some 'loyal' viewer and let the man do what he does which is provide information on products. He's already stated that the unit wasn't meant to run without the intended cable and you come in here saying he's irritated. Hell I'd be irritated too all things considered. Your post is neither productive nor supportive of anything. You're just annoying.
Hobotech, keep doing what you're doing man, ignore these useless twats.
This is a pretty cool portable air conditioner. I can use my Delta Pro with it.
5:00 couldn't you put in a diode between the ecoflow battery and the other external 52V, so that there is no backflow voltage back to the ecoflow battery?
The new model runs off 12-60v th-cam.com/video/2NBfhABwn18/w-d-xo.html
@@HOBOTECH well, i'm talking about hooking a different external battery the way you had it hooked up at 5:00 .... but you were worried about backfeeding the ecoflow battery and possibly damaging it's bms, etc. but a diode would prevent that backflow. a simple diode may be the solution.
@@BobbyL80123 I was saying it's moot because the new version supports external charging.
Very through analysis, I had the 12v battery bank question. Thank you!
Use a Delta 2 instead of the Wave 2 battery and you can put in 15 amps instead of 8.
My Delta 2 shows 370-380w incoming when using two 12v batteries in series for 24v.
Excellent video demonstrating the solar input charging options. Thank you.
I have tested some window ACs and it used less power with the fan on high since the inside and outside fan are coupled if you turn the fan to low the power drops but it climbs back up because the outside fan is slower and I assume the pressures get higher and the compressor has to work harder and it wasn't a big difference but it was there and not working the compressor harder is probably a good thing
Hobo, quick question: I’ve got the wave packaged with the Delta Max. Following the directions, I connected the extra battery cable from the wave to the delta max. The wave powers up but won’t engage the fan or compressor. But when I connect the ac cord and run that to the Max, works fine. The instructions are incorrect.
UPDATE: What Ecoflow doesn’t tell you is that your Wave unit may need a firmware update. My unit wouldn’t power up using the battery cable to my Delta Max. I connected the app to my Wave, updated the firmware, and voilà! Now the Wave connected to DC on the Delta Max works just fine.
Can I use my Gyrominublater to power it up ?
Hobo could you use a step up converter 12v to 24v 10amps ?
I’ll answer myself yes you can .Don’t buy a 24v battery just use 12v and a step up converter 💪
@@MrHsv123 thank you! Saved me asking the question.
@@FilthyRandy-69 Never had a issue works perfect
can you step up with a converter that has more amps than needed to get full power?@@MrHsv123
It is interesting to note how many people don't want to run the air conditioner off of another EcoFlow Product. 😳 I wonder why that is ? 👀 Could it be the EcoFlow Power Generators are just too expensive for what they are and people are unwilling to pay a premium price for a name ? 👀
Ecoflow has always been the higher priced "Apple" of the battery brands and many have no problem paying the premium for higher end products. I think the problem more is that most don't want to buy a Delta just to run this a/c unit and aren't thinking about the other uses for a top end solar generator.
@@HOBOTECH I calculate, if you want to embrace the EcoFlow 220 VOLT AC, dual phase battery backup solution to run your house for 4 to 5 days at a time, then you will need to pay EcoFlow the premium price of $23,000.00 USD for the privilege. 😳🥺👎🏻
Actually a pair of Delta Pro with the double voltage hub for 240v operation would be under $8000. If you want to run for days on emergency power then yes you would want to add batteries to that. However, to run my 240v house for days cost me well over $25k in DIY equipment and that's building my own batteries from raw cells so is Ecoflow really that much more?
@@HOBOTECH I would say no, but my point is the whole setup is still costing such a high premium that there are not many folks who can afford to shell out this kind of money. There's the $8,000.00 USD just to get you in the door with a functional system which will run your entire house for a few hours, then there's the real cost you need to pay in order to buy enough battery storage to facilitate a practical running time, and then there's the need to feed that extra battery system with enough solar panels to actually keep that system in full opeartion (2,500 + Watts of panels at least). It's an entreprise operation solution required. This is just too complicated and too much cash for the average person. Hopefully, in the future, we will have more affordable turn key solutions from these same manufacturers ?
@@markjob6354 This is actually one of the SIMPLEST solutions for home backup which is why it costs more. If you go the DIY route it will save you money assuming you know what you're actually doing which most don't. DIY can get extremely complicated. These Ecoflow units are meant for emergency use to power critical loads during a blackout and not a 30kwh/day home with every appliance running. For that you need a $50k+ solution. Apples to oranges. If you do wire the Ecoflow into your home you can write off 26% of the cost of the entire system (including panels) through the current federal solar tax credit. Ecoflow grosses tens of millions in sales per year so someone has to be buying them...
What about 12 volt batteries in parallel?
hey hobo, so I live in south florida and I am looking for a unit that can handle my full size refrigerator during hurricane season power outages. what do you recommend? thanks
Anything with at least a 1000w inverter and at least 1000wh battery. (This will get you around 7hrs depending on your AC power requirements)
Skip the jackery and look at bluetti and ecoflow.
@@grindychum or a Titan
I'd look at the larger modular units(200p or max or 300) Bluetti has or the 500. 500 is a whole house unit. Maxed out modulars & 500 can hook to your panel box if you like.
hobotech.tv/large-home-backup-ups-240v-solar-generator-power-stations/
Why post a question that is completely unrelated to the video? HT and others have videos already addressing your question if you search YT.
I only need cooling at bedtime. Can i use 48 volt solar panels straight to the wave 2 and charge during the day?
We wrote Ecoflow support and they said the Ecoflow wave might be in the U.S. market this May. Can't we order it over sea's?
Thanks for all your hard work.
Having it be a universal DC option it would have been a lot more user friendly I don't know if that's the right term but it would have been nice
Really need to have a product manual that has the internal schematics and motor and system in the cooling unit b4 doing anything other than using the equipment intended to run it. So most likely less than 2000 BTU the way you got it running through the 24 volt solar port. Any link to the real technical manuals?
EcoFlow is the Apple of all they do…the bigger PPS-Portable Power Stations are iMac comparable and the wave is the iPhone…I can’t wait for more….course the smaller PPS units are great too….the are apple II etc
3:07 the star for the future of Ecoflow is that plug according to my crystal ball….that and also that they make quality stuff.
Would it work with a AC200MAX using the 12v 30amp output wired to a 12/24 volt upconverter into the solar connector on the wave?
Cheap boost converters are not a trustworthy source of power. Do it at your own risk.
Yes it’s fine i charge my Bluetti with a 12v to 36v step up connected to 100amp hr lithium battery gives my 435v .Never had a issue .No risk at all .
Thanks Sir, you know your stuff. I've been following you for years, and I appreciate your commentary and insight. A great job you do!!
I would love to see you hook up one of these in a hostler truck
I get why EcoFlow does this. When a compressor kicks on, there is a heavy load; unless the power input can handle it, there could be issues. For a battery, the BMS might not be able to handle the load. I will use a power inverter feed by a battery. I know there will be some loss from the inverter, but it is a HELL of a lot cheaper than the $800.00 battery add-on. targeting 800-1000w inverter. I'll test with a Giandel 600w with a surge capacity of 1200w first.
I'm wondering if you can find the DC output of the internal AC power supply and tap into that.
@HOBOTECH Where can I buy an Ecoflow to ISS adapter? 🤔
What about the Bluetti AC200's 25 amp 12 volt port? Would that be safe and get any more run time than the cigarette plug?
It would work the same as the 12v demo shown in this video.
@@HOBOTECH thanks professor for pointing that out👍🎩
Interesting. I have a kickstarter EF1500 that has terminals for 24v. Hmm.... tempting.
Would you be able to do a 100ah lifepo 4 battery with a 12 to 24v booster off of it? The lifepo4 batteries I have unfortunately can not be put into series.
The part where you connect 24VDC to the wave while it is running and demonstrate a readout on the wave indicating a longer run time is encouraging. Ecoflow said on their FB forum that you could not simultaneously run the unit and charge the battery with the DC cable. They said this was due to the 200w solar charging limitation. So I assumed that while the unit was running that the DC charging circuit would be disabled.
That's definitely not the case. It wouldn't make sense for them to disable solar input while running.
@@HOBOTECH Perhaps the Wave is simply ingesting the power from your custom DC source and supplementing itself from the battery as needed? That, too, could explain the longer battery life.
Would have been great to see an example using a step up converter. I can see many 12v VanLifers willing to go this route if they could leverage existing solar/lithium options.
I crack up every time you do the 4 lights clip
Looked for your report on Eco Flow Delta Mini but didn't find it anywhere/
Probably doesn't apply to this particular EF 48vdc cable, BUUUUT 'some' companies add what are basically dummy pins to create a proprietary cable; sometimes with pin(s) powering a useless LED.
I bet there's at least one pin supplying a reference "i'm here" voltage to tell the power supply circuitry in the wave to run in bypass dc mode.
@@stevey500 Yep. You're on to it.
Can you run it off of the EcoFlow River 2 Pro, assuming you also have the Wave 2 battery?
Hello! I have a Bluetti AC300. If I am understanding the video correctly, I would need a cable that goes from the Bluetti's 24V DC output to the Wave's DC input -- the yellow input, correct? -- it looks like maybe an XT60 or 90? Can you post if there is such a cable to be bought, or will I have to make one. Thanks!!
Yes can you tell me what the best $5,000 inverter to purchase I like to know please
Can you extend the runtime of the WAVE 2 With the bluetti AC 300 like you showed in this video
Wave 2 can be powered from any AC source over 600w.
Sorry, I did not make myself clear.
I think in this video, you used an adapter (that you sell on your website) and the AC300s, 24V DC 10A cigarette lighter plug to charge the wave battery through its solar port. Can you do this also with the Wave 2? I am trying to figure out how to use AC300 with the Wave 2, if possible. I am also trying not to turn on the AC300s inverter if I do not have to
Thank you, and thank you for these Videos. @@HOBOTECH
Hi there did you if it works to charge a bluetti Ac300 ?
Thanks for the informative video
Not just informative..very entertaining.
What we need is stable 60V Outlet from Powerstations and a lot of devices that runs @60V DC.
Thanks Hobo, EcoFlow has a XT60 solar hook up (as you showed hooked into a lifepo4 battery) and a XT60 cigarette lighter charger hook up. For the purpose of hooking into a 200amp 24 volt lifepo4 battery would one be preferred over the other?
Does anyone know if the Ecoflow river 720 watt battery would work to power this AC?
If you watch the video I answer that question.
Damn they lucked out I was about to buy the battery and wave 2 bundle. But all I have is bluetti and drprepare batteries
can you step up the 12v plug to 24v on the bluetti 200Max and use the ecoflow AC?
At your own risk ...
It’s fine doing it for a long time 👍
I tried to download the manual from the EcoFlow site but received an error message. How can the battery be charged? Is it a proprietary charging system?
Hi! I was wondering if you seen my question on your review of the new Jackery? I have a trailer with factory solar. I also have a Jackery and Jackery solar panel. I had a solar plug put on my trailer to use a solar suitcase for more charging power. I like to use the Jackery solar panel but … it has that dedicated 8 mm plug and does not have a controller attached. What adapters do I need to run the panel to the controller then to the plug??? I think the hard part is the solar panel to controller.
If I am understanding your question correctly, we would have to know what type of solar plug you have installed on your trailer, and if that plug runs directly to a solar controller or not. The short answer is that you'll need an adapter that converts the Jackery's 8mm barrel plug to whatever type of solar plug is on your trailer. The proper path should be: solar panel ->adapter->solar plug->controller->battery. If it's one of those Zamp solar plugs, you may have to replace that as well with something less proprietary.
@@twloughlin Yes this was an add on plug which looks like that typical m4 plug. When it was added it was hooked directly to the battery. Your answer in what order it goes really helps. Most suitcase solar have the controller on the backside of panel. Working with the Jackery panel.
So in this case and with suitcase with a built on controller…. The controller is what plugs in to outside of rv. The solar panel is plug into the controller. Does that sound right. ??? If so I need an adapter for the solar panel with 8mm female and on the other end just wire ends. Then I need a cable that is wire ends with a M4 connector at the other end for the rv plug. ??????
hobotech.tv/amazon/#Solar-Adapters
@@tjphoto8943 Assuming you are working with a solar suitcase that has a controller on the back and NOT the Jackery panel, my guess is that all you would need would be an adapter from the PV output wire of the suitcase solar panel (is it an 8mm barrel plug?) to convert it to an MP4 plug that will plug into your trailer's solar plug. Obviously you need to make sure that the male/female connections are correct (only one way they can plug together) and you have the correct polarity going into the trailer plug. Prof. Hobo has a slew of adapters on his page (see his link above); one of them should probably work. Using the Jackery would require that you have an external solar controller mounted somewhere between the solar panel and the plug. Since you say the plug is hardwired to the battery, the controller has to be installed before the plug. The Professor has solar controllers on his Amazon page as well. I hope I've understood you correctly.
Maybe I have missed this but can you run the Wave with the Delta Max smart battery.
I mention several times it will run DC off the Delta Max. In fact you can buy it in a bundle.
Those pins are definitely data pins. It may short some of those pins to turn it on. With a schematic, it's probably possible, but obviously not recommended. The 24V battery idea is good, but I'm not sure if I would trust the regulation circutry on the solar charge controller. I'd probably put some sort of current limiter in front of it for safety. At around 220W-250W at 24v.
God I wish I had the schematic, do you have the battery so that you can probe the pins?
@@noahpan496 Unfortunately I don't. If I did, I'd share. Someone has had to have ripped one apart by now. Best guess is they are voltage sense m/reference pins or some sort of pwm style cann bus, like door latch sensors in modern cars.
Haha I’m searching everywhere for someone to have done it. The battery is sold out on the eco flow website too.
i actually opened up my ecoflow wave today and got the pin out.
The pins listed on the board, SIGIN2, SIGIN1, SIGOUT, WAKEUP, CAN-L, CAN-H.
You are right, it is communicated through CAN protocol,
I presume the first three, SIGIN2, SIGIN1, and SIGOUT are for the display.
I am going to try to apply 5v to the WAKEUP pin to see if it comes up, while applying 52v to the exterior pins.
@@noahpan496 I figured that's what it would be. Let me know how you make out! Curious
Where to buy the adapter?
Thank you for this! I almost bought myself a wave 2 thinking I could run it off my LifeP04. I hate when manufacturers get into proprietary systems. Screw EcoFlow. Not for me!
Try watching the review of the NEW model... it supports 12v-60v charging. th-cam.com/video/2NBfhABwn18/w-d-xo.html
So the new model will run direct off a LifePo4 24 volt system or do you still need to buy at least one of their batteries?
@@TroyD-vo1bz you still need to buy one of their NMC batteries.. either the add-on or an ecoflow power station. Same cable, it looks like
U r a genius person. If I have all these devices in my room. My mother will definitely kills me one day 😂💔 but it’s fun to see the experiments that you love to do. Thanks to make our ideas true 😂❤
Hobo. Can you help me? Eco Flow support is having a hard time understanding my question 🤔. Technically can I run 25 feet of duct? Will the ac operate normally? Thanks
🥳Yea! I have the AC300/w2B300🎉 Would love to see a detailed set up with this set up. Gonna go dig through my adapters!
See my recent wave 2 video.
@@HOBOTECH kk!
Hello Professor Hobo. Great Video
Hey hobo just a question I take core of 6 fish tanks and iv been the power outages they warn about and I was wondering if and any suggestions on a ups battery back all of my water pumps and lights are 12 volt but what I worry many is the air pump I have a full room system that runs off one air pump what would be you ideas on how I'd get a ups to run it for 8 hours minimum and maybe 12 worse case. I live in an apartment and they don't allow solar I tried they got mad
You need to do an energy audit to figure out how much power you need. Get a Kill-A-Watt style power meter and find out. hobotech.tv/amazon/#Tools
Would it be possible to run the ecoflow wave on the ecoflow smart generator
The a/c unit does come with an adapter to run direct off the DC output of a Delta generator so it probably would run off the gas generator too.
I hope Bluetti comes out with there own version, that is less proprietary in connecting
with other brands of solar generators.
Don't count on it. A brand that sells batteries has no incentive to allow 3rd party charging.
Can you link the cable from cigarettes to mc4 ?
hobotech.tv/amazon/#Solar-Adapters
Hobo Tech.
Great video.
I already have my bad ass Pecron 2000lfp. Expandable.
Just got it.
When are you going to review it?
Still waiting for someone to plug the wave 2 they said it’s coming out in may don’t know why they don’t have there products out there to hype up sales
Professor: I have only 1 question….WHY would anyone would want to try a hack, considering the time, expense, and the potential for personal injury/product damage to this obviously pricey product???
@@gamerfortynine You have a point, but I see no upside considering the Professor’s multiple mentions at the beginning of the video of a fire hazard.
Maybe the professor is showing what can happen if you do what you shouldn't? You know someone out there, with less knowledge than the prof, is gonna try it.
Because people do dumb things to save a buck. I think the way they marketed the pricy bundles was poor. They sell bundles with expensive battery generators and don't explain why you should get the generator too. Its NOT just for running the a/c but has a million uses of its own including home backup. This is what folks are paying for. Most just look at how much it costs with a battery generator and say "I'm not paying $2500 for an air conditioner!" when the reality is the a/c is actually just an add-on product!
@@HOBOTECH Professor: Thanks for putting things in their proper perspective.
@@retrotek0409 You’re right. If everyone was rational/smart, this world wouldn’t be so screwed-up.
Wondering if you have done any testing on the new Geneverse (formally Generac name)?
Wow, maybe edit the suggestion list to stuff mentioned in this video. You reference a power cord adapter on your Amazon page but I couldn't find it among all the things not mentioned in this video. Ugh
Crazy Ecoflow thinking by capping the solar DC input with 12-30v 8A. If they made it 16A it would have been perfect for DIY battery (solar) hookup and a lot more of these standalone Ecoflow AC´s with battery would be sold. Now you can´t run it indefinitely on DC, still have to buy an included battery and use it only with AC wall power.
Couldn’t you supply a sufficient DC power to charging inlet of the air conditioner’s battery?
Did you watch the video? That's exactly what I did for like 15 minutes.
Love me some Hobo!!! Keep up the great work....I need Mo' Tom-Bell!
Does anyone know if I can plug a 48v 10 amp plug from bluetti ac 200L into the wave 2 solar input?
I know that you are sick of doing refrigerator/freezer reviews. If you can find the time would you please review the Bougerv CC55 it's a 59qt refrigerator/freezer I've never seen a review on one. Thank you for the great reviews. Keep up the good work
Thank you for your sensational trick i will convert it to extend the runtime of an Eco Flo with a smaller Jacorey by using 12 V output into the EcoFlow to extent The runtime of my freezer Because the smaller jackery cannot run the freezer And an extension battery is for me to expensive
Thanks for the solar plug idea! Always learning. Love the Star Trek insert! (that was a brutal episode!). Oh, and...ODIN!!!! And...THOR!!!
With the Ecoflow Battery be charged with any third party products?
WILL A LEOCH WORK ON THAT?
Instead of using 2 batteries you could use a Victron 12-24v converter
I would just like to know the measurements of the unit
Click the link. Scroll to the bottom.
@@HOBOTECH thanks
SMOKING two packs of Cigarettes a day is actually good for you. If you drill a hole in the package and solder a jumper fitting on it. But do not try it if you are left handed because it will only work during certain hours of the day.
Will it run off of a hamster wheel? 😂
Why have you not said anything about the ecoflow using batteries that loose 20% after 800 cycles?
SUPER video - thanks. Even the 6-7 hour extension off of 12v DC might be worth it for some.
Great review as always and the ending is awesome! 😎
Someone needs to find out what those pins do, so this unit can be used with any DC battery
Love your show! Guess it's okay to call you Hobo since it's in the channel name and I don't know your name IRL. I'm not even a novice tech but it seems they're trying to crave a nitch in the outdoor/ DIY camper world. These would also be great in the trucking industry too. (If you have the power to run it)Even though trucks can start and stop with a thermostat. Not really sure I'd spend all that money on it to begin with though. It does stink that they have it set up the way they did but teething problems happen. I hope the people that have a need for this get the answers they need from this video. Did Bluetti up date they 3,00 so all the batteries can charge from the head/inverter unit?
Can it run on butane?
Can someone send a link of what the DC adapter to MC 4 cable looks like
Can I plug in the wall
I wouldn't be surprised if some dodgy cable turns up on Alibaba soon to allow for universal DC charging , but I wonder if that will be defeated by a firmware update.
thanks for all u do.
seems like Eco flow would be on this.
i have bg bucks tied into 4 Batties plus a SG. would love to use what i hjave for this ac.
Tom I be wondering if this unit can talk to the Renology' unit outside on it's pad ? I like where your going with the idea that these units work with parameters set in stone Hell Boy . T/C/E
Let me ask you a question what is the best 5000 watt inverter to purchase to buy can you please answer that question