Iraq War 20 Years On: “Some People Can’t Bring Themselves To Admit It Was A Mistake,” Peter Hitchens

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  • The Iraq War began 20 years ago today on March 20 2003. Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George Bush ordered the invasion.
    TalkTV’s Mike Graham is joined by Mail on Sunday columnist Peter Hitchens to reflect on the war, 20 years on.
    Peter tells Mike: “There are still some people who can’t bring themselves to admit it was a dreadful mistake …
    “The ones who made me cross at the time and the ones who continue to make me cross, are the ones who should’ve protested against it, voted against it in Parliament and didn’t.”
    #talktv #talkradio

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  • @rogernewman5903
    @rogernewman5903 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    It’s ironical that an international court can cite Putin for war crimes in Ukraine and ignore Blair and Bush for Iraq invasion. double standards.

    • @shamteal8614
      @shamteal8614 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just proves that the ICC has become no more than a political tool of the West and no longer has any credibility.

    • @davidcoleman2796
      @davidcoleman2796 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      100%

    • @eighty88eight
      @eighty88eight ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Decimating and killing millions of Afghans Libyan Iraqi Syrian, men woman children. Thus spreading democracy, freedom in the Middle East . . . and the love for America ! !

    • @eighty88eight
      @eighty88eight ปีที่แล้ว

      Blair & Bush. Two white stereotypical, plantation owners . . untouchable !

    • @1aatlas
      @1aatlas ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@eighty88eightWith freedom bombs, the white phosphorous of democracy, the depleted uranium shells of peace.

  • @olivethrush7450
    @olivethrush7450 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    It was not a mistake. It was a deliberate act.

    • @GOLDSMITHEXILE
      @GOLDSMITHEXILE ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I agree. And by even suggesting it was "a mistake" there is the implication that the original motives and intentions behind the "shock and awe," and subsequent military occupation, were decent and honourable.....and that, somehow, the project was diverted or otherwise ruined by changing circumstances, the fortunes of war, or whatever.....leading to the ongoing humanitarian disaster which DID occur. When in fact the entire thing was a cynical, calculated imperialistic war adventure from the start. From the same crowd that blew up WTC and more recently detroyed nord stream gas pipeline

    • @hittitecharioteer
      @hittitecharioteer ปีที่แล้ว

      Blair believed it'd be a short war in a distant country soon forgotten about - but would win a deep friendship with his USA globalist pals. Obama arrived and said you'd be at the back of a queue for a trade deal; and mass migration that even affects here (🇮🇪) and Ireland had nothing to do with it! You need to bring back hanging for what your evil leaders did to Europe.

    • @olivethrush7450
      @olivethrush7450 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GOLDSMITHEXILE Absolutely. The Ba$tard had to be stopped. One does not need to find a civilised reason to thump a Ba$tard. If you have the means to do it just thump him and move on.

    • @happinesstan
      @happinesstan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A deliberate act executed to perfection. Let's not forget there were actually two wars. The fist, illegal war was executed swiftly and efficiently because they needed to install a government who could request our assistance after we left.

    • @andrewoliver8930
      @andrewoliver8930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Promoted by the owner of this station.

  • @jean-marcevans1439
    @jean-marcevans1439 ปีที่แล้ว +181

    I remember clearly the horror I felt when Blair made that announcement. Complete and utter madness. How he can show his face in public is beyond belief. As Hitchens says, Blair should enter a monastery and spend the rest of his days begging for forgiveness.

    • @NEEJER
      @NEEJER ปีที่แล้ว

      Blair is demonic

    • @robertheap2911
      @robertheap2911 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Don’t forget Blair converted to Catholicism to gain repentance 😢

    • @thomasreed49
      @thomasreed49 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tony Blairwords I have seen The evidence of weapons of mass destruction To protect others I am unable to show the evidence. That was a bear face lie they didn’t exist. And to think he’s still breathing.

    • @wallacewhybrow2705
      @wallacewhybrow2705 ปีที่แล้ว

      @jean-marcevans1439
      No need for a monastery. Simply lock him up, plenty of time for contemplation.

    • @shrunkensimon
      @shrunkensimon ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ​@@robertheap2911 He's a sycophant. His conversion is just to get close to the real hidden hand of power

  • @nautilus1872
    @nautilus1872 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    George Galloway said "Children died before they knew they were Iraqis, but for no other reason, other than they were Iraqis."

    • @takkiejakkie5458
      @takkiejakkie5458 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did/would he say the same about Ukrainians? George Galloway is a Russian propaganda machine.

  • @stumac869
    @stumac869 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    What's sickening is that we get dragged into the mess our politicians create by going to war most don't want. It's time governments needed a majority people's vote before doing anything, it's not their country, it belongs to us all.

    • @lespaul2000
      @lespaul2000 ปีที่แล้ว

      They'll just brainwash the public with their psyops and Propaganda.

    • @aydan0161
      @aydan0161 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would love to agree with this but unfortunately the vast majority of the general public are mindless droids that will believe whatever they’re told to believe.
      I think the older you get the more you realise that so-called ‘democracy’ only works when you have citizens with critical thinking skills.

    • @tauntontaunton6128
      @tauntontaunton6128 ปีที่แล้ว

      I TOTALLY AGREE

    • @satishkumarkn1164
      @satishkumarkn1164 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was not a mistake. It was done deliberately. 20 years ago England was throwing bombs to kill millions in Iraq. Today it is funding food banks for its own people and looks upto Rwanda for solving its criminal gang problems. In the mean time Pakistani gangs teach "culture" to its girls in the name of "grooming" and the police are just watching. Ha ha ha..... Congratulations to England on this wonderful achievement. Even God is too powerless to save England.

    • @paullynch1938
      @paullynch1938 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spot on ,they want us to go to kill people who have done fuck all to us ,you don’t see them on the front line, this people need arresting, WHY isn’t it happening, it’s beyond belief

  • @notcomply
    @notcomply ปีที่แล้ว +49

    And the hypocrisy of the squeaky clean west calling Putin a war criminal is nauseating

    • @waynus2021
      @waynus2021 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blair and Bush set an example to the rest of the world that an international mandate for war was simply not needed , they sowed the seeds for the Ukrainian invasion

    • @phillipecook3227
      @phillipecook3227 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely.

  • @justgivemethetruth
    @justgivemethetruth ปีที่แล้ว +53

    And we're still taking it out on Julian Assange who turned the spotlight on these abuses.

    • @cybercheese3
      @cybercheese3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, arrest the guy exposing war crimes, and let the perpetrators go free...

    • @waynus2021
      @waynus2021 ปีที่แล้ว

      the only thing that gives me hope these days is reading comments from guys like you who also understand how this shitshow works , i sometimes feel surrounded by morons who just follow the narrative and believe whatever the mainstream (who are controlled) spew out at the time.
      I feel like Rik fkkng Grimes in a sea of mindless zombies

  • @1962pjh
    @1962pjh ปีที่แล้ว +52

    As a Canadian, I'm proud of our PM at the time Jean Chretien, for making the right decision, and not joining the US and UK in the war in Iraq.

    • @aydan0161
      @aydan0161 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’ve never even considered that fact. That is impressive. When you consider that Australia (one of the worlds current dictatorships) also contributed to the invasion.
      Well played Jean.

    • @matimus100
      @matimus100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Prince Andrew loves this silly comment

    • @aydan0161
      @aydan0161 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matimus100 says the self proclaimed ‘Viking’… somehow I don’t think I’ll be listening to your political insight anytime soon

    • @robbrewer2036
      @robbrewer2036 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't forget the little crap of steel in australia.

    • @beewisebeestronger6224
      @beewisebeestronger6224 ปีที่แล้ว

      But there was Canadian troops there wasn't there? Or was that during the occupation , they were already in Afghanistan

  • @bobbysilver272
    @bobbysilver272 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    From their point of view, it wasn't a mistake. It all went according to their Agenda and so it continues with other steps....

    • @natashawatson385
      @natashawatson385 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exactly but we live in this parallel universe where people pretend these things are done by mistake 😮

    • @happinesstan
      @happinesstan ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Reinds me of this Baroness who was on Marr once, talking about the British Empire "Of course we made mistakkes" she said. It sickened me because when people make mistakes THEY should be the ones to bear the consequences.

    • @kiwitrainguy
      @kiwitrainguy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@happinesstan Try telling that to the financial sector.

  • @philipmichael4106
    @philipmichael4106 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Maybe they are afraid of international arrest warrants .

    • @fraserbailey6347
      @fraserbailey6347 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If only they were. The fact is that Blair, Campbell, Bush, Cheney et al will never be arrested. The evil is simply off the scale.

    • @jeffreyuprichard3754
      @jeffreyuprichard3754 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why wasn't Hussain arrested for mass murder after golf war one?.

    • @hittitecharioteer
      @hittitecharioteer ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fraserbailey6347 One can but agree 100%.

    • @paulgibbons2320
      @paulgibbons2320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They should be...
      But they carry on without a care in the world.

    • @kiwitrainguy
      @kiwitrainguy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulgibbons2320 ...because they are part of the clique that RUN the World.

  • @AntAdam1
    @AntAdam1 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    To think that Blair is still trying to push himself into the front and centre of our lives, like a stain that you can't get out.

    • @elliotgregory3356
      @elliotgregory3356 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apparently he is front runner for the WEF top job when Klaus pops his clogs.....

    • @tommytitmouse
      @tommytitmouse ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and a filthy dirty Stain at that.

  • @shamteal8614
    @shamteal8614 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It wasn't a mistake, they knew exactly what they were doing.

    • @arleneevans6342
      @arleneevans6342 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm beginning to think that way too

    • @margaret426
      @margaret426 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree & looks like they want to do it all again.

    • @kiwitrainguy
      @kiwitrainguy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@margaret426 Yes, only this time it may ultimately involve nuclear weapons.

  • @helmethead72
    @helmethead72 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Who was held accountable by The Hague for our devastating war of aggression against Iraq?
    And imagine our outrage and fury if the Chinese or Russians had supplied weapons, ammunition and intelligence to the people of Iraq to help defend themselves against our invasion?
    Our hypocrisy is utterly revolting.

    • @waynus2021
      @waynus2021 ปีที่แล้ว

      and imagine if the Russians and Chinese had signed an agreement (Minsk) that was legally binding that they would not expand their influence in a Westerly direction and then proceeded to attempt putting arms and bases in a Western location on the USA`s border................. the history books suggest that it didn`t go so well last time (Cuba) but that is EXACTLY what has happened here .
      I cannot be the only Westerner that has sympathy towards the Russians at this point?

  • @fraserbailey6347
    @fraserbailey6347 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    As always, Peter speaks more sense, with more articulacy and more power, in 10 minutes than the rest of the media manages in 10 years.

    • @tommyrotton9468
      @tommyrotton9468 ปีที่แล้ว

      he is talking a load of bollocks TBH. Just look at all the surrounding Muslim nations and what happened to the Jews and Christians when Sharia started to rule as the majority.
      If we follow his advice, you might as well sign up to Islamisation right now

    • @hittitecharioteer
      @hittitecharioteer ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Peter Hitchens speaks. The World should be listening. His thinking is ordered, born of experience and ultimately the seed of a good education. Truly a voice of sanity in this age of lunacy.

    • @tommyrotton9468
      @tommyrotton9468 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hittitecharioteer his worldview is severely tainted, which makes his opinions biased and incorrect at times.
      Be sceptical and test ever opinions worth.

    • @StraightWhiteMan.
      @StraightWhiteMan. ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tommyrotton9468 What are you talking about?
      Just stay in your lands and leave Muslims and Muslim lands alone.

    • @gerardk51
      @gerardk51 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@tommyrotton9468 Do you think the invasion of Iraq halted Islamisation? It increased it!
      What colour is the sky on your planet?

  • @sisiphas
    @sisiphas ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I never tire of listening to you two gentlemen (and I mean that
    In its traditional sense. Thank you both.

    • @adrenalinmyride5634
      @adrenalinmyride5634 ปีที่แล้ว

      We all thought 9/11 was the game changer
      In hindsight Iraq has done more to the attitude of self in the West

  • @user-sh5jq4pmlg
    @user-sh5jq4pmlg ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It was not a mistake, it was a crime! A very big one!

    • @SteveXNYC
      @SteveXNYC ปีที่แล้ว

      Never a crime. A investment in the American experience.

  • @abucs
    @abucs ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I remember in Australia at the time everyone was saying there was no reason to go to war and yet everyone was aware the political elite wasn't going to consult us about it anyway. The control of the country by unaccountable political elites is the biggest problem in the west still today.

    • @andrewoliver8930
      @andrewoliver8930 ปีที่แล้ว

      The parties in the UK are run by the US Media owner, Rupert.

    • @WiseFool888
      @WiseFool888 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hear hear!

    • @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
      @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns ปีที่แล้ว

      I was one of the hundreds of thousands in Sydney who marched against it. I even knew one of the guys who wrote "no war" on the Opera House. Now we're buying nuclear subs to contain China. No democracy here at all.

  • @SimonWallwork
    @SimonWallwork ปีที่แล้ว +74

    As a Tory voter (well, ex Tory) myself, I cannot forgive them for supporting the war. Only the Tories could have restrained Blair, but like idiots, they backed him 100%.

    • @annharding9634
      @annharding9634 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds familiar.

    • @clivet3252
      @clivet3252 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We basically had no opposition while Blair was in power. The strongest opposition came from the backbenches, and even from the frontbenches when it came to Iraq.

    • @redbison6417
      @redbison6417 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Tories and Labour agree on all major issues, the choice between parties is illusion.

    • @andrewoliver8930
      @andrewoliver8930 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@redbison6417 The Tories could have sided with the Labour rebels but decided to back Blair and his need to suck up to the US.

    • @redbison6417
      @redbison6417 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andrewoliver8930 could have... But where never going to.

  • @francescostello1377
    @francescostello1377 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    For the best journalism on The Iraq, Middle East disaster, genocide, watch George Galloway on Moats, Colonel Douglas MacGregor, and many more.

    • @seanmoran2743
      @seanmoran2743 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Col Macgregor has been excellent on America’s Foreign Policy in the Tragedy of Ukraine

    • @pikebishop8516
      @pikebishop8516 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seanmoran2743 he thought Ukraine can't win this war since the beginning.

  • @thomasgow9475
    @thomasgow9475 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It wasn't just Blair, MP's from BOTH Parties voted to go to war on a lie.

  • @user-pu3kq1by3q
    @user-pu3kq1by3q ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Do not always agree with Peter Hitchens but on the Iraq war he is totally correct. We should also never have become involved in Afghanistan or Libya. I served for 24 years and could not believe it when we went into Afghanistan. Look at the mess we have left and the people killed in other peoples countries because of arrogance. We have Putin on war crimes when Blair carries on causing trouble, total hypocrisy and double standards. In 20 years if any us are left alive, we will discussing our involvement with Ukraine.

    • @hittitecharioteer
      @hittitecharioteer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Peter Hitchens' thinking is ordered, born of a breadth of experience, and ultimately, the seed of a good education. Truly a voice of sanity in this age of lunacy.

  • @maxy-sp7cn
    @maxy-sp7cn ปีที่แล้ว +7

    To this day, not one person has gone to jail for the war, and not one person has gone to jail for the 2008 financial crisis, but the taxpayer has picked up the tab for both disasters. The Ukraine war is history repeating itself.

    • @elliotgregory3356
      @elliotgregory3356 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed 💯👍 Also the banking system is still acting like it did pre 2008!

    • @ErnaldtheSaxon
      @ErnaldtheSaxon ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello, my name is Montague William 3rd.
      And what I will tell you may well sound absurd.
      But the less who believe it the better for me.
      For you see I'm in Banking and big industry.
      For many a year we have controlled your lives.
      While you all just struggle and suffer in strife.
      We created the things that you don't really need.
      Your sports cars and Fashions and Plasma TV's.
      I remember it clearly how all this begun.
      Family secrets from Father to Son.
      Inherited knowledge that gives me the edge.
      While you peasants, people lie sleeping at night in your beds.
      We control the money that controls your lives.
      Whilst you worship false idols and wouldn't think twice.
      Of selling your souls for a place in the sun.
      These things that won't matter when your time is done.
      But as long as they're there to control the masses.
      I just sit back and consider my assets.
      Safe in the knowledge that I have it all.
      While you common people are losing your jobs.
      You see I just hold you in utter contempt.
      But the smile on my face well it makes me exempt.
      For I have the weapon of global TV.
      Which gives us connection and invites empathy.
      You would really believe that we look out for you.
      While we Bankers and Brokers are only a few.
      But if you saw that then you'd take back the power.
      Hence daily terrors to make you all cower.
      The Panics the crashes the wars and the illness.
      That keep you from finding your Spiritual Wholeness.
      We rig the game and we buy out both sides.
      To keep you enslaved in your pitiful lives.
      So go out and work as your body clock fades.
      And when it's all over a few years from the grave.
      You'll look back on all this and just then you'll see.
      That your life was nothing, a mere fantasy.
      There are very few things that we don't now control.
      To have Lawyers and Police Force was always a goal.
      Doing our bidding as you march on the street.
      But they never realise they're only just sheep.
      For real power resides in the hands of a few.
      You voted for parties what more could you do.
      But what you don't know is they're one and the same.
      Old Gordon has passed good old David the reigns.
      And you'll follow the leader who was put there by you.
      But your blood it runs red while our blood runs blue.
      But you simply don't see its all part of the game.
      Another distraction like money and fame.
      Get ready for wars in the name of the free.
      Vacinations for illness that will never be.
      The assault on your children's impressionable minds,
      and a micro chipped world. You'll put up no fight.
      Information suppression will keep you in toe
      Depopulation of peasants was always our goal
      But eugenics was not what we hoped it would be
      Oh yes it was us that funded Nazis!
      But as long as we own all the media too
      What's really happening does not concern you
      So just go on watching your plasma TV
      And the world will be run by the ones you can't see

  • @garrybro12791
    @garrybro12791 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    To think that many in the UK criticise Russia for what it’s doing in Ukraine, while believing the UK isn’t a country with blood on its hands. Fools.

    • @hittitecharioteer
      @hittitecharioteer ปีที่แล้ว

      Blair believed it'd be a short war in a distant country soon forgotten about - but would win a deep friendship with his USA globalist pals. Obama arrived and said you'd be at the back of a queue for a trade deal; and the resulting mass migration that is devastating Europe (and even affects here 🇮🇪 in the extreme West), and Ireland had nothing to do with it! You need to bring back hanging for what your evil leaders did to Europe.

    • @jamiecorrigan3241
      @jamiecorrigan3241 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      TONY BLAIR HAS BLOOD ON HIS HANDS.

    • @rozzgrey801
      @rozzgrey801 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try to not be so stupid and bigoted, Garry. We can criticise whoever we want for any reasons we see fit, and that's all you need to know.

    • @SinisterTantru3
      @SinisterTantru3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamiecorrigan3241all of the people behind his decisions are guilty

    • @jamiecorrigan3241
      @jamiecorrigan3241 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SinisterTantru3 Too True !!!

  • @robertjirava942
    @robertjirava942 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I am growing to love Peter more and more with time. I will always love Christopher, because of his love of language. As George Galloway said Christopher wrote like an angel. And I know Christopher loved irony. My fondest hope is that one day the two brothers will embrace in heaven, where Christopher awaits Peter. I love them both.

    • @tommyrotton9468
      @tommyrotton9468 ปีที่แล้ว

      Christopher will probably give Peter a Hitchslap for being such a plonker

    • @robertjirava942
      @robertjirava942 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tommyrotton9468 what a garbage comment

    • @tommyrotton9468
      @tommyrotton9468 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@robertjirava942 but neither the less a very likely occurrence. Christopher was always the more intelligent of the two.

    • @seanmoran2743
      @seanmoran2743 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@tommyrotton9468 Christopher pushed for intervention in these places you muppet
      He definitely deserves the slap

    • @seanmoran2743
      @seanmoran2743 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your hero Christopher pushed for these interventions you muppet

  • @abuyusef27
    @abuyusef27 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    PH spot on again.

  • @jackiep5009
    @jackiep5009 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    American here. Some of us tried. Sigh. I have learned we can not protest our way out of these things. Money - hit them in the money hard and fast.

    • @SteveXNYC
      @SteveXNYC ปีที่แล้ว

      The money is fuel for evil. Tell your birds.

  • @defaultYTchannel
    @defaultYTchannel ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It was no mistake…

  • @stirlingmoss4621
    @stirlingmoss4621 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Blair's Words of Mass Deception. All those British servicemen's lives thrown away for his ego

  • @Moskow87
    @Moskow87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mistake is when I send a post card to the wrong address... That was something else.

  • @eugenemurray2940
    @eugenemurray2940 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The lesson of History is...
    We don't learn from it 😢

    • @SteveXNYC
      @SteveXNYC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They repeat it..😂🤣👍

  • @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns
    @Banana_Split_Cream_Buns ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Despite his brother "converting" me to Atheism, I love Peter many times more. In fact, I wish there was a hell for Christopher to go to for propagandising for that horrible war.

  • @anthonybolton2717
    @anthonybolton2717 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It was no fcuking mistake

  • @lk1590
    @lk1590 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mistake? A calculated and deliberate crime, more like.

  • @robertwalker7924
    @robertwalker7924 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    and Australia didnt want to be a part of it but P.M. John Howard did. Did I miss the mention of him ?

  • @joevolcano6720
    @joevolcano6720 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just to be pedantic, I believe it was John LeCarre's 'The Tailor of Panama' (not 'The Russia House') that was inspired by Graham Greene's 'Our Man in Havana'. Both deal with how intellegence is manufactured for the sake of both parties. Great books too!

    • @knickertwistcopperby6066
      @knickertwistcopperby6066 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am bingeing on le Carre at present and have just finished 'A Perfect Spy'. What a work of genius! Greene is one of my favourite authors - has been for years. My conclusion: what a waste of money, time and brain space the world of espionage actually is. It is a racket. The people involved are narcissistic warmongers!

  • @junfenghuang6463
    @junfenghuang6463 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    IHow come American and British war criminals are not punished?

  • @adamlee8990
    @adamlee8990 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love listening to Peter Hitchens

  • @jamiecorrigan3241
    @jamiecorrigan3241 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    AND TONY BLAIR NOW WORKING HIS 'TRICKS' IN THE HOUSE OF LORDS ~~~ SICK ~~~ BUT NOT IN THE MODERN MEANING OF THE WORD.

  • @mychathura
    @mychathura ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was not a mistake. It was a Crime.

  • @richardhorrocks1460
    @richardhorrocks1460 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I baked a tub of Ben & Jerry's at 200c in a fan assisted oven... that was a mistake. Butchering hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings, including children and babies blown to pieces and burnt alive, is not a mistake, it is criminal and evil. And shame on all of us who placate our own collective guilt by pretending that 'objecting' is enough. Those deaths are on all of us.

    • @areyouavinalaff
      @areyouavinalaff ปีที่แล้ว +5

      On all of us? You wear the guilt if you want, but I had no hand in the matter.

    • @adamski320
      @adamski320 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No. No it’s not.
      I have no guilt, I didn’t kill anyone.

    • @bertiescunsbutch9323
      @bertiescunsbutch9323 ปีที่แล้ว

      We don't live in a healthy democracy to be able to stop the likes of Blair and Campbell, its all set up we have no real voice.

    • @unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765
      @unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was roughly about 300 000 that sadly lost their lives, and that is ALL over Iraq.
      The British were mostly in Basra and the south, and the death stats are extremely low in comparison. You make it sound like British soldiers were just butchering everyone in sight, not true.
      Actually, nobody rearly knows how many died, but what we do know is that the sadam regime was much worse.

    • @areyouavinalaff
      @areyouavinalaff ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unitedkingdomoffiveeyes9765 I wouldn't pay too much attention, he sounds like a left wing, blue haired, guilt tripping narcissist who needs a cause to virtue signal over, and likely wasn't even born at the time.

  • @robertbroatch8013
    @robertbroatch8013 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tony Blair’s legacy!

  • @eugenemurray2940
    @eugenemurray2940 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    'The Blair Creature!'...🤣
    A Peter 'Hitch Slap'!
    I am sure The Late CH would laugh!
    Some common ground there!

    • @bigbong620
      @bigbong620 ปีที่แล้ว

      The late CH was the Bush administration's useful idiot.

  • @MrNed78
    @MrNed78 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As an Iraqi born British Citizen, I can tell you the era of the war and its aftermath were hell for my extended family which has left them deeply traumatised and we lost many family members in the ensuing chaos and collapse of the country. The British public were lied to and the hidden cost of the war is the enormous migration from countries like Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. don't forget many Iraqi's initially fled to Syria and that was a factor in creating the difficult economic conditions that led Syria to collapse and descend into Civil war. Then the huge tidal wave of migration started. You cannot just destroy a country of 30+ million people and expect there is no blowback and consequences. Yet all I see is that those who called for the war have failed upwards and been rewarded handsomely by the global elite. I guess we have to wait for justice in the next life!

    • @shamteal8614
      @shamteal8614 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure you have the sympathy of the majority of British people who knew they were being lied to but were powerless to do anything about it yet those including Blair and Campbell receive protection from blowback whereas ordinary decent British people pay the price. I'd always believed the British democratic state was so designed a crime like that perpetrated against the people of Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya could never happen, god was I wrong, I didn't count on a snide meglamanic like Blair.

    • @waynus2021
      @waynus2021 ปีที่แล้ว

      i can only apologise on behalf of our leaders my friend , they DO NOT speak for the people of this nation and we hate them as much as you do .
      that war was disgusting and should never have started in the first place , Blair and Bush should be in the Hague for crimes against humanity well ahead of Mr Putin in the queue

  • @markwatkins8309
    @markwatkins8309 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beyond a mistake.

  • @johnrambo99999
    @johnrambo99999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have served over 21 years in the military. I look back on the iraq war, and feel disgrace and anguish. Its a shame my brothers in arms died fighting an illegal war. I am the first to criticise the wests "grand standing" in the modern political environment. Listening to those who should know better, criticising Russia for indulging a precedent WE set. I am leaving our armed forces, not with a sense of pride, but with a quiet embarrasment and disgust.

  • @stu1094
    @stu1094 ปีที่แล้ว

    Peter is always right people should listen

  • @solomontekle4859
    @solomontekle4859 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So a deliberate war crime is now labeled as ‘mistake’

  • @jessicagoodall1458
    @jessicagoodall1458 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish Peter had his own show on talktv

  • @Channel66269
    @Channel66269 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m glad there’s Americans out there that know that we in Europe do laugh when Americans say about Russia invading another country while all Americans ever do is invade countries

  • @petew5289
    @petew5289 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should have stayed out of Iraq and Afghanistan

  • @andrewoliver8930
    @andrewoliver8930 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Blair got rich, Bush got richer and so did the main protagonists.
    Good result wasn't it?

  • @sdrawkcabUK
    @sdrawkcabUK ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why a shortened clip?

  • @seanmoran2743
    @seanmoran2743 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mike should get Col Macgregor on for a Macgregor half hour

  • @mpierce672
    @mpierce672 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am always fascinated by what Mr Hitchens has to say. Where can I find more information on what was discussed? What books, articles and official minutes should I read to understand more? Mr Hitchens mentioned the FCO response to Sadam’s attack on the Kurds; where can I find that?

  • @equaliser2265
    @equaliser2265 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mistake is not the word, Mass Murder is the word.

  • @derekmoore8224
    @derekmoore8224 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There was No mistake

  • @SagaciousFrank
    @SagaciousFrank ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Unfortunately I don't read much these days. It takes time and a focus I rarely have. But years ago I read Our Man in Havana recommended on Hitchens Blog, and it's an excellent read. Many years after I watched the movie adaptation starring Alec Guinness which was very good.

    • @jayaybe1
      @jayaybe1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know exactly what you mean. I got into reading Graham Greene last year via The Quiet American. A terrific author and well worth dipping your toe in again, even if only reading a chapter a day 😉.

  • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
    @alphabetaxenonzzzcat ปีที่แล้ว +7

    He is right that it was a disaster for the West - however, here's where he seems to be missing the bigger picture, what lead to it were things like intervention in the former Yugoslavia, all the interventions that happened under Clinton's administration(Somalia, air strikes in Iraq's no fly zone, etc.) and as he mentioned 9/11(but I suspect that Hitchens believes the official story of that), and even more importantly - it was no mistake - it was deliberate. For the powers that be, it all went according to plan - Blair, Bush and co. weren't arrested for war crimes - and they even managed to win an election afterwards.

    • @andrewoliver8930
      @andrewoliver8930 ปีที่แล้ว

      Backed by this station's foreign owner

    • @isobellickes8543
      @isobellickes8543 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And was given an “honour” afterwards.

    • @alphabetaxenonzzzcat
      @alphabetaxenonzzzcat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isobellickes8543 Oh yes - a Knight of the Garter - no less.

  • @cjryan88
    @cjryan88 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these people should be arrested of this war and loss of life

    • @andrewoliver8930
      @andrewoliver8930 ปีที่แล้ว

      The owner of TalkTV made Blair a Godfather to his child.

  • @stity23
    @stity23 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While Julian Assange is still in jail !

  • @rextyrannos4517
    @rextyrannos4517 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    20 years later and all of the things I felt as a teenaged "revolutionary" leftist about this war exactly what incredibly established respected conservatives now hold. Amazing to see how the overton window shifts while some actually hold solid. I can recall Christopher Hitchens' support for the war was a very confusing to a young atheist leftist and really made me start reassessing things.

  • @christopherfleming7505
    @christopherfleming7505 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of all the politicians I have known in my life, I think I hate Tony Blair the most. There are no words to express the evil he did while in power.

  • @fourstarfuel9702
    @fourstarfuel9702 ปีที่แล้ว

    It wasn't a mistake. It was a conscious act. End of.

  • @mickeyh1961
    @mickeyh1961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those responsible with their dark souls will burn eternal in a Hellish world of their own creation for their evil deeds

  • @andrewoliver8930
    @andrewoliver8930 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The owner of this station's other outlets, such as The Sun, backed Blair.
    The owner even made him Godfather to his child.

    • @drewski1441
      @drewski1441 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Hypocrisy of it all...😒

  • @christophershrimpton7627
    @christophershrimpton7627 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Peter Hitchens quite rightly points to the influence of Dick Cheney in the GW Bush presidency but the true motive for the policies on the Middle East was nothing to do with spreading freedom and democracy. The basis for those policies was laid out in The Project For The New American Century which was all about the need to advance American hegemony in order to secure access to whatever resources would be needed to maintain their extravagant lifestyle in competition with the rest of the world. It’s this selfish greed that is resented by much of the rest of the world, not least because of the havoc and misery the pursuit of these policies has caused and is causing.
    The disciples, protégés,and in one case a spouse,of the authors of that document now inhabit the State Department, exerting their influence on Biden over Ukraine.

    • @sav7568
      @sav7568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Er, not really. It was all about Israel. " a new strategy for securing the realm ". In that famous sentence " the realm " was Israel not the US.

    • @christophershrimpton7627
      @christophershrimpton7627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sav7568 I was deliberately hesitant to suggest that the motive of these policies and actions included weakening of Israel’s adversaries, especially Iran. I also wonder if the orchestration of the precipitating event might have required greater competence than the alleged offenders possessed.

    • @johkupohkuxd1697
      @johkupohkuxd1697 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@sav7568 How exactly did toppling Ba'athist Iraq help Israel?

    • @sav7568
      @sav7568 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@johkupohkuxd1697 One less enemy to worry about.

    • @cynthiagarnham1157
      @cynthiagarnham1157 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johkupohkuxd1697 yup, Saddam, Gadaffi and. Assad , were and are not Muslim fundimentalists. Women could wear what they liked, get a good education, jobs ect. . Now look, with the take over by fanatics, women are back in the dark ages!

  • @irenabeth
    @irenabeth ปีที่แล้ว

    Mistake ! It was a crime.

  • @petercricket
    @petercricket ปีที่แล้ว

    Min) 0 . 35... And the Spanish Lackey, Jose Maria Aznar,, let's not forget,,

  • @rayscott7548
    @rayscott7548 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It wasn't bungled,it was and is a game of chess but it's being played by the same thing

  • @sadmancaves
    @sadmancaves ปีที่แล้ว

    this is not an ideological thing it's about oil and money

  • @kevinjackson6387
    @kevinjackson6387 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Teflon Tony should be in prison

  • @williamwilson4162
    @williamwilson4162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It wasn't a mistake it was very deliberate, Saddams mistake was threatening to sell oil in Euros instead of dollars that was when they decided he had to go.

  • @lorenzbroll0101
    @lorenzbroll0101 ปีที่แล้ว

    The IMC needs consumers!

  • @repentri6624
    @repentri6624 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His standards of judging seem very high and strict in what qualifies as an atrocity or crime. It seems alot of people praise Nolm's brilliance but it's a fairly narrow minded perspective.

  • @otablott7779
    @otablott7779 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Tony Blair gets to live his life as millionaire while thousands of Iraqi children lay in graves because of his actions. Sadly the colour of the skin they were born in dictates the value placed on their short lives. The horrors brought on Iraq thanks to that man are the thing of nightmares

    • @finty5457
      @finty5457 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thousands of Iraqi children?

    • @otablott7779
      @otablott7779 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@finty5457 how many Iraqi children died during the invasion bombing, the occupation killings and the sectarian violence?

    • @finty5457
      @finty5457 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@otablott7779 feel free to cite your sources. Your statement, your burden of proof. Also, what do you mean occupation killings. Are you suggesting uk or American soldiers went around killing children?

    • @otablott7779
      @otablott7779 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@finty5457 You can find information on the number of brown Iraqis murdered by white American and British invaders in publications such as the Lancet report

    • @finty5457
      @finty5457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@otablott7779 children in the thousands?

  • @ddjay1363
    @ddjay1363 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Peter Hitchens' brother , Christopher was a very loud advocate for the 2nd Iraq invasion.
    He was adamant it was justified to 'get rid of Sadam' and his 'evil fascist party' etc.

    • @bigbong620
      @bigbong620 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Bush administration's useful idiot.

    • @robertburke2246
      @robertburke2246 ปีที่แล้ว

      Christopher Hitchens has to be the only person who was against the gulf war and for the Iraq war.

  • @michaelstevens3479
    @michaelstevens3479 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Israel does not think so.

  • @freebornjohn2687
    @freebornjohn2687 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was a mistake to invade Iraq. If the US and its allies had just focused on Afghanistan it would have had a far better chance of developing into a stable country and not being dragged back to the dark ages, and the Middle East would probably avoided the chaos of the Islamic State. One thing to remember is that the Tories supported the war and also would have had the same policy if they had been in power. Blair was too caught up in his relationship with Bush to see the wood for the trees.

  • @keyboarddancers7751
    @keyboarddancers7751 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember watching the repeated news footage of the WTC destruction on the night of 9/11 and saying to my girlfriend "we'll be going to war over this."

    • @groomys67
      @groomys67 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ooooooh you clever boy. Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us.

  • @kevinbillington9773
    @kevinbillington9773 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Zalensky should be careful, as you say we supported Saddam against Iran.

  • @Crouchy232323
    @Crouchy232323 ปีที่แล้ว

    The gammon guy is very agreeable

  • @ivangangur8207
    @ivangangur8207 ปีที่แล้ว

    Add John Howard, honest Johnny as per LNP. Of Australia. To the list of war criminals.

  • @cesarpolitics7576
    @cesarpolitics7576 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you think they are mad at them because they invaded iraq it is not too difficult to convince yourself that they would have done it anyway.

  • @t.jconnolly6492
    @t.jconnolly6492 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who remembers sacchi and sacchi if that is how you spell it the are advertiseing company used to sell the war to the public at that particular time

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What would the Hichens household been like on the eve of the Iraq war because didn't his brother Christopher support the Iraq war

    • @loafersheffield
      @loafersheffield ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. Christopher is on record as saying that his support for the Iraq invasion was to liberate the Kurds. The only group scattered across three borders that did not have their independent nation state.
      His journalism took him to Iraq and he was appalled by the state of fear that Iraqis experienced under the Hussein regime. Dank did a mad lads on Uday Hussein.
      As per, intervention without a long term strategy for stabilising and ensuring legitimate power , combined with a poorly thought out exit strategy, left the country with a power vacuum. Just like Afghanistan. How and why do they eff it up, one country to the next? Incompetence or deliberate?

  • @davidcoleman2796
    @davidcoleman2796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Our man in Havana is a great book and I really love the movie with Alec Guinness. Castro came to power the very next year . The movie was filmed in Havana . Amazing history .

  • @jota3732
    @jota3732 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oil oil oil nothing else, most people wouldn’t even know where Iraq was if it didn’t have any .

  • @davidrobertson9271
    @davidrobertson9271 ปีที่แล้ว

    PH can be quite acidic on occasion

  • @sheilamashali6426
    @sheilamashali6426 ปีที่แล้ว

    ‘’Blair Creature’’ best description of him so far. I admire his stance on Ukraine / Russia War.

  • @sumthingwickedly
    @sumthingwickedly ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Peter is miserable but he's right

  • @jamesgallagher5933
    @jamesgallagher5933 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WARS MAKE MONEY

  • @oldschoolcockneylover8138
    @oldschoolcockneylover8138 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The fact Allistar Campbell is paraded about like some elder statesman to tell us off and take the moral highground over issues like the EU on the BBC is enough to make a fly sick!

  • @MGCaverly
    @MGCaverly ปีที่แล้ว

    The Blair “creature” …
    Nice one Mr Hitchens!

  • @robbielawson4828
    @robbielawson4828 ปีที่แล้ว

    People voted for this.

  • @propheticwitness8624
    @propheticwitness8624 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Total and absolute disaster,absolutely scandalous.....

  • @diverdeep6348
    @diverdeep6348 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arrest Blair

  • @georgeconroy9908
    @georgeconroy9908 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you mention this was the answer from others is. Whataboutery😂

  • @1942december
    @1942december ปีที่แล้ว

    America has a history of interfering in other countries, and leaving them worse off. Countries who aided them are guilty too.

  • @darrenlee9237
    @darrenlee9237 ปีที่แล้ว

    I completely agree with Peter.
    Although interestingly his brother Christopher was a staunch advocate of the George W. Bush government's decision to go back into Iraq in 2003.

  • @nohandler1493
    @nohandler1493 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was not a mistake, it was a war crime. Else Hitler gonna say 1000 years Reich was a mistake too😂