Peter Hitchens' Half Hour: “There Is No Obligation For A Nation To Take In 7 Million People”
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- Last week the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby branded the Government’s Migration Bill as ‘morally unacceptable' in the House of Lords.
Following the Archbishop's comment, columnist Peter Hitchens released an article saying “we can't impoverish our own nation to help the poor of this world”.
He joins Mike Graham to discuss the matter.
Peter says: "There is no obligation for a nation to take in seven million people from other countries. That is absolutely colossal".
#talktv #talkradio
No Documentation, No Entry, No Benefits, No Housing, No Thankyou.
Justin Welby has positioned himself as the mouthpiece of big corporations, he speaks for the Church of WEF.
Indeed!
Never like Welby
Welby is an ex-banker isn't it.
God has gone from the teachings of the Christian Church. The church is corrupt and God will not be mocked for long.
Justin 'fifth columnist' Welby - the Archbishop of marxism...
We cannot even house our own let alone these migrants we have our own with children living on the streets yet we can put these up in five star hotels just because they want a better life
The country is banjaxed, no good future here for many now.
YOU DONT HAVE TO PUT UP WITH IT ???? CHANGE YOUR GOVERNMENT 😮 LABOUR DONT WANT ANY BORDERS WHATSOEVER
@@valansley , "change your government", have you been living in cave? There is no opposition party in this country.
Very well said totally agree
@@valansleyyou think labour will make a difference? You are deluded.
7 million may be the official figure, but I suspect that the real figure is probably much higher than that, perhaps double the official figure. The truth is that the authorities don't accurately know how many people live in the UK.
They don't know, nor care. They strung up Mussolini for betrayal and bringing defeat, disaster, and war they didn't want. Something similar should happen here.
ozisalsobeingdestroyedintothirdworldtoiletinadyingecology....
Yes 700 million at least if not a billion,maybe 10 billion or 20 even,'don't panic don't panic' they don't like it up them captain main waiting'
@@nik-ev3eh multi-lols.
Same as USA , they reckon about 10 million that's not legal or registered , if they can get employment and work why don't the just register
When Blair opened the floodgates after 1997 he was warned by the NHS that the system wouldn’t be able to cope-discuss.
Most of them will work in the NHS 😂
It was John Major that opened the floodgates when he introduced freedom of movement. Major let 1m immigrants in, labour let 2m in and the Tories since 2010 have let 3m immigrants in.
Won't bother TEFLON TONY all his family PRIVATE HEALTH CARE 🚑🚑🚑🚑🚑🚑
Only reason tories have let more in is probably because they are in government much more than Labour
@@bobrail733 it’ll not bother any of them, send them to Rwanda start with Braverman Patel and Sunak they’re the ones who are letting the boat people in.
We were never asked if we are happy at the prospect of being ethnocided by the third world.
Yes everyone this is where our tax money is going😅😅😅
Import the third world become the third world . Look at any American city to see what is to become of your cities in the UK . The USA diversity is our strength has always been a myth . I'll never understand why the UK and Europe wanted so badly to destroy their own countries with diversity. It fails wherever it is imported to because each group of people want to be the king and queen of the land protect their own kind , their own culture , traditions and religious beliefs and they to want political power to push their own ideas . It just so happens in the west the trees are ripe for the pickings and they know exactly what words to use to manipulate the government, the so called Christian leadership and the media to gain power and to empower their own into getting everything they want .. it will all end in tears for the west one day ..
THEY ARE NOT FLEEING PERSECUTION OR FROM DANGER !!! So why do we take them in??
part of the plan
They are being brought in to replace us. Ethnic cleansing.
Because they claim asylum, and by law we must process them!
It's an army
@@tracybowen2732 Ten Hag's army!!!!
The UK, and especially the Midlands and Southeast have been over populated for decades now. As most of us experience on a daily basis, the roads are full, the NHS cannot cope, most jobs are at or just above the minimum wage, affordable housing and rents are non existent for millions, school classes are full etc… etc..
The UK is being systematically ruined by a non existent immigration policy.
Well said and accurate.
Decades? Make that centuries. Thomas Malthus reached the same conclusion in 1798.
Spot on fella
And they settle in their ghettos with no interest in mixing or becoming part of the British way of life. Some streets in the south-east and the midlands are like the back streets of Calcutta - but this is great for us as our politicians keep telling us…it’s cultural enrichment. I could cry 😢
@@Craft-oh7uv little Englander? don't be childish ffs
7 million is just since 2010.
11 million this century.
Know through playing chess a Somalian and an Iranian in London who both have claimed asylum owing to harm from their country, but after many years now they have got their asylum granted, then their British citizenship and passport they have returned back to the country where they previously claimed persecution.
One attended a wedding in Tehran last year and stayed for three and a half weeks, the other attended the funeral of his grandfather in Somalia and returned two weeks later to the UK.
Apparently there persecution disappeared once they received the British passport.
3.8 million people waiting for social housing in the uk , and immigrants jump to the top of the list , so your kids n grandkids can kiss goodbye to any help from government to be housed 🙈
raise your kids to not need the government to house them. that's the problem. you should not even think that way.
@@tekay44 Council housing was traditionally for the poor working classes, who could not afford to buy their own home, because of poor wages.
yep, and anyone that opposes this is immediately attacked by the leftwing establishment. The same people that pretend the tories are ''far-right'' knowing full well their failed leftwing policies are safe in the deeply incompetent hands of Sunaks government.
@@tekay44 social housing in U.K. is for the people of U.K., house ownership increased under M Thatcher, allowing people to buy their council house., many did.
New social housing currently being built is being filled with immigrants, or asylum seekers, maybe they should have enough to buy a house before coming here when they can afford thousands of pounds to trafficking gangs
@@tekay44 but the can not get there own as people think its ok to own more than 1
Our country has been destroyed by this mass influx of people.
England is largely finish now. I agree. But the worst is still to come for our people.
@You Kay I hope we can save some of our people. We were great once.
Well when you have people running this country who were not born here its easy to understand why they couldnt care less who comes here now.Our 'culture ' is of no concern to them.
@You Kay lol Oz is going the same way , Ones are going to USA because apparently Ben Franklin said he wanted a place to live with his own kind , lighter skinned , which is why it's called the browning of the world , utter crap but some believe it
@Dominion Philosophy Soros and the bill Gates of this world and their eco warrior minions.
Peter Hitchens is very much on the button with this.
If only interviewers would let him speak and not interrupt constantly.
@@PhilUKNet yes that’s a good point
yeah, he's only about 20 years too late to the party. The average man in the street could see where opening the floodgates would take us YEARS AGO.
Unfortunately he is only saying what I’ve been saying for years but he is paid a lot of money for saying the obvious.
@@janeburke147 yes I agree - but at least he’s saying it, which is more than most, albeit a bit late!
When will people realise ( you can’t get a pint in a half pint pot) it’s just common sense.
As a Christian of 55 years...and a long career in international Christian publishing...I sadly conclude that the Arch Bishop is an intelligent FOOL....and spiritually confused.
As an athiest for 70 years I agree with you.
So what would Jesus do then?
He's a traitor, a Jesuit temporal co-adjutor, at war with the native British people. He's not a Christian, that is certain.
As a Christian, I agree with you
He's not spiritually confused, he is on the dark side.
I emigrated to Canada in 1993 and the whole process was expensive and detailed. I had to prove that my trade was required, that I had never committed a crime, that I had enough money to support myself, that I was in good health, and, that I would not in any way pose a burden to Canada. I spent thousands on my application process, I was interviewed twice and I had to take a full medical, including an HIV test. I passed all of Canada's requirements and then I emigrated. The very last thing I would have done is to just rock up to an airport in Canada, minus my identity documents. The UK needs to freeze ALL IMMIGRATION FOR AT LEAST, 10 YEARS! Otherwise, the disaster will keep on going!
So you must be really mad when so many migrants are welcomed in by Trudeau who *are* a burden on Canada and whose past lives may be undocumented.
Did you gain Canadian citizenship eventually, they'll have been given passports one assumes.
Not just freeze it. Reverse it. They have to go.
Yadda, yadda, yadda. Direct action required.
Look at Japan and what they said about taking in migrants,zero fucks given👌🏻
Yet ones went there and died crossing in to USA in winter , was there a reason they had to dodge USA immigration
£85,070
How much does the Archbishop of Canterbury earn? According to The Sun, the official annual salary for Justin Welby is £85,070, but his net worth is said to be around £3 million . Can anyone point me to the new houses that welby is personally building for the immigrants ?
As AB of C he is exempt from council tax and utility bills.
And sense
@@vordman and judgement in his own mind.
We could never take enough migrants to heal the world … we ca however take enough in to trash British society … FACT CHECH TRUE
People’s salaries have got nothing to do with it. The people as individuals should it have to pay to house others, that’s up to the state.
There is neither obligation nor capacity. We must look after our own before lavishing generosity on those who have chosen to leave their countries and pass through safe countries to get to the UK. There is no mandate from the people.
WELL SAID MATE 👏👏👏
I would say the mandate comes from our grandfathers who fought to unite Europe and end wars.
@@smcl8419 Competition between groups is part of the stuff of life, and contemporary society is based on the formulation that that is not the case. And because it is the case, nature will trump all the liberal arguments. The problem is that if it doesn’t take a political form, natures trumping of liberalism will be a very painful process to live through.
@@smcl8419 Ending war in Europe did not mean uncontrolled borders. It meant respecting others’ territories. This government’s pledge was to reduce net migration and has dismally failed.
@@smcl8419 Hmm, the implied correlating link between defeating Germany and her allies and accepting millions of mostly low skilled migrants hailing from backward, culturally disparate societies nearly 80 years later isn’t immediately obvious tbh. To put it mildly.
You can talk about it till the cows home nothing will change until we the people rise up and do it ourselves
The moral argument falls flat if the number of immigrants results in the economic and social collapse of the country.
The social collapse has already happened.
Which it will - and I’m beginning to think that’s the plan
@@CarolFremel-my4hsmore dependents means more votes 🗳
The “moral argument” falls flat, because most of the people coming there want to unalive/subjugate you
Power corrupts the few while weakness corrupts the many and nature doesn't forgive weakness.
Spot on Peter as usual
No where does it say to take in millions of infidels
@TheGreatWhiteUK I take it the uk at the end of your name means Ukraine after that because we must be in different countries?!
@TheGreatWhiteUK traitor to your own
Our own need looking after first before anyone else.
Haven’t we done enough, what other country has done as much. It is totally different between migrants and those deserving of shelter.
How do you decide who is 'deserving'?
If people want to come good if you adapt the way of life and obey the laws. problem is they do not want to change or be like where they go but only to get anny way posible.
I have a mind, and when I see my home country being swamped with God knows what, I will have a say. You are entitled to yours.
Turkey hasn't really done much, has it?
It was given a healthy chunk of change by the EU as a bribe to stop them entering Greece.
They're put up in tents and given an absolute bare minimum to keep them going, in conditions that would have the beloved migrant charities up in arms if we tried it.
And Turkey is more than happy for the to cross any of their other borders out of the country (and often to Greece in spite of the deal)
We urgently need an MP with a backbone to start putting the indigenous population first and foremost.
Unfortunately that chance has long gone 😕
Too late White Brits are heading into the abyss.The UK 🇬🇧 is about to change in ways our ancestors never thought possible. In time the Monarchy will go as will the Union Jack.
Sir, well said. Agree💯
Sunak is a terrible Dictator, anyone of us common people could do a better job.
@@-BUILT_LIKE_A_BAG_OF_MILK Why you vote for Indian?You're own fault.
If, as they say, these young, male migrants are coming here for a better life, why do none of the women of their countries want a better life?
They are coming here to take over Britain, they are only partially civilised.
Let see men goes on a dangerous journey because they don’t want to put their family in harm way
Family follows once there allowed to stay so times the number by around 5
Many are gay, and that is against the law in many countries
@@run2cat4runso they leave there women in danger lol
The bliair thing opened the floodgates. They hated this place , every reptile in power since has been no different since.
Rubbing the right's nose in diversity was Blair's stated objective, I believe.
Charity begins at home. Giving illegal migrants plush hotels, whilst army veterans, who have served the nation, die homeless, is unjust. Would we commend the person who lets his brother die, whilst he ensures a stranger has a bed for the night?
All these comments showing 99% of U.K. don't want these unwanted ILLEGALS get nothing will happen while the members of parliament today are all for it especially LIEBOUR , Get them all out .
VOTE REFORM PARTY 👍👍🇬🇧🇬🇧
We are not the social services of the world
They just want cheap labour and high house prices and immigrants achieve that. Here in Australia we have a 1% rental vacancy rate and 400,000 migrants about to arrive, they will apparently absorb the vacant housing in one month. I am a seventh generation Australian and cannot compete with wealthy Chinese or other migrants. It is a shocking mismanagement and betrayal of the very people a government is supposed to serve. It's broken.
Albo Mr 32% lowest vote on record australia adelaide turning brown quickly its scary housing crisis we will end up like India onya albo
@@Eric-kn4yn depends where you're from... Salisbury there is an influx with the parent's unable to speak a word of English... I live just outside GG and it's not too bad..
Drug dealers don’t pay tax ! Anyone arriving without passport or papers should not be allowed in, student families should not be allowed to come , benefits should not be given unless they have applied from their countries prior to coming , laws need changing like ECHR , there are things that could be done but they don’t want to .
If only carlsberg made laws, for the record you are 110% correct why can we see it yet the government cant !!
No benefits untill you've paid in for 10 years
Seems to me that if anything bad happens anywhere in the world then it is up to Britain to send aid and assistance. Are there no other countries willing to take this on ? No doubt this is rather unfair, but you know what I mean.
Britain is not the only country in the world that gives aid to other countries.
The country I used to know and be proud of doesn't exist any more. Every criminal and drug dealer etc who comes in illegally on a boat, telling lies about their situation gets priority over our own people. Their sometimes unacceptable cultures and customs take priority over ours and if we say anything we are accused of racism etc. People should only be allowed to live here if they speak, read and write good English and accept our customs and values even if it means they cannot follow all of their own religious or cultural customs. Justin Welby lives in cloud cuckoo land, far removed from ordinary people. It is people like him who are driving people away from the church and religion.
965,000 Visas last year and over 100,000 illegals too.
1,070,000 in just 52 weeks.
Yep and will only go up and look at the courts and read the names
So, 90% are legit migrants?
Not sustainable and not justified.
2,750 per day, every day.
@@Craft-oh7uv 45.000?? Where are YOU getting your numbers from, I just heard in the BBC radio 4 that it is predicted 1 million this year. The numbers are all over the place, only one thing is for sure, the numbers are higher than they are telling us.
He's right there is no obligation. So why is there 24 7 political preasure to do so. The politics have become an enemy.
Such an important issue why dont we let the people decide, lets have a referendum
They can afford to pay 10 thousand to people smugglers
Look closely, our government is funding this invasion
No, they cannot afford to pay 10 grand.
So-called people smugglers are just a front.
Talking to politicians is not going to make any difference. The political parties have been subverted. Do you really think they don't know that the citizens of their country don't want to be invaded by unlimited immigration? Come on. We are being attacked and we can't waste any more time vacillating. They just can't be trusted with another vote.
The UK is the 15th most densely populated nation in the world. England is the 7th.
After the two world wars in Europe, people of European descent represented 35 percent of the world population. 80 years later, it is estimated to be between 7 to 15 percent
I think that's a government myth
Should we take in 7 million and throw out the Archbishop of Canterbury?
Tough one, eh?
Yes please - we could say it was morally unacceptable for him to live like a king whilst others were starving.
@@lesleywild8706 Or queen.
And it's ridiculous because these people come from cultures so different than our cultures that they basically are affecting our children in a negative toxic aggressive. Way that nobody seems to want to acknowledge
If the Archbishop followed the old Spanish model then fine - convert to Christianity on arrival - and mean it - or we'll crucify you on the pebbles - we'll also have spies to ensure you meet the same fate if we find you've been anywhere near a prayer mat.
"Blessed are the queue jumpers" 😂😂
For they shall inherit the council houses.
Brilliant 😅
For they shall inherit the U.K. 😇😇😇😇😇😇
The last shall come first and the first shall be last.
schofield?
His brother was more spot on . ' The other religions will open the door for them ' he was right , sadly .
" Wel by is well past his Sell by date " ! total clown !
Im not sure its pnly 7 million either my own city has doubled in size in the last 20 years
a lot more than 7 million with only a very few with an actual right to be here .
@Bigb UK population already 100 million and UK is smaller than Denmark and the same size (approx) of NZ and Rhode Island. The rich want cheap labour so working hours becomes 80+ per week just to survive. More people equals lower paid workers.
The UK is so screwed
Germany has over 300,000 failed asylum seekers that they can't deport. Europe is screwed!
Get mean before you give up.
What and Germany isn't! It was Angela Merkel who invited the whole world over to Europe!
America is screwed, too.
@@Craft-oh7uv Not true, most western countries experience these problems, it’s not any British politicians fault that literally hundreds of millions are trying to move from poor countries to richer countries, at the same time as lefties trying to make excuses “on how evil it is to stop them from coming AND staying”.
Our politiitons here in the north of Ireland recently announced with pride that our population has increased by 25% in the last three yrs despite record low birth rates. All immigrants from Africa/middle east and all morbidly obese yet they tell us they are starving people. Most of them hobble about as they are so fat. I want them all to be returned to their own countries but cant see that ever happening unfortunately
A crowded low wage country will end up ghettoised. Look around the world these countries don't do well. Put them in Islington or the leafy subarbs. We are really sick and tired of this relentless immigration. 7 million that's enormous the effects on culture and our lives is enormous
I believe in mass repatriations. What will life be like if we allow nations to lose any sense of identity? How can we fight for a cohesive society if there is no society? A world without the UK would be crap but it’s a real prospect.
A nation with an identity is not a 'nation'.This is the plan folks.
That is what Denmark is promoting and Sweden won't be far behind. Those two nations share a lot culturally with what used to be Britain. We are not versed in any conflicts which cloud our coverage of politics & culture of those two countries (though we did betray Denmark in the 1800s, as did Sweden and they betrayed Norway in 1940) & vice versa, hence any measures enacted in the Nordics would make for interesting analysis carrying no baggage. Seems to be very limited coverage in the British media though, Boris being the last to pass comment and the usual suspects jumped on his words etc etc
@@rogerwoodhouse7945 They destroy national identity and replace the power structure with a cyber prison.
Peter and his late brother are truly the definition of honest men with real integrity. Always tell the truth with facts and logical debate. Top geezers
The real figure over 30 years stands at over 10 million.
Let that sink in
The reality of the situation is that Politicians are telling the working people of this country to “go to work and give your wages to a foreign economic refugee “ The people will wake up and rise up one day!
A country must have borders . End of story . Look at what is happing in America now . My country Canada is also dealing with this . The UK is being destroyed. It must stop .
I never hear anything about Canada. I know the same thing is happening there but it seems that no one is reporting on it, and I find that suspicious
@@sabrinatscha2554 australia same record big migration housing crisis were turning brown quickly its scary
I agree!.. Good fences make good neighbor's.
It always amuses me that all of those arguing for 'No Borders' etc, actually live dwellings that has borders, fences, door locks, to keep people out. This applies especially to policy makers who generally live in gated communities, and may even have security staff - to keep the random elements out, protect family security and so on. Yet, this argument is thrown out of the window when a whole Nation's Security is involved. Unbelievable hypocrisy ! 🤣🤣
Hitchens is sound.
You just have to look around you now compared to even 10 years ago, the demographical change is massive.
The UK population has increased 10 million since 1990 and infrastructure hasn't increased to service it. We are no obliged to take anyone.Particuarly those who have come through safe countries to the UK.
The Sewage and Water Systems, says Over 80 Million.
Recent food research based on consumption estimates 91, million. It's probably a good yard measure the amount of food consumed annually
I didnt know turds could speak mr hänke poo your friend 😂
All migrants without documents, no matter the age, should be processed abroad in Rwanda or another country.
Nearly 10 million immigrants have been added to the British population over the last 20 years, this is the same amount of people as the whole of Jamaica, Albania and Kuwait have combined, this means the equivalent of three extra countries has been added to the UK population in just two decades, the water companies are now dumping raw sewage into the countries rivers because they can't handle the amount from all these extra people.
Mass migration doesn’t affect the people who seem to have the loudest voice on the subject,it affects the poorest people,it is their housing,amenities,health care,schools and jobs that are massively diluted making them even poorer.
100 %
Let's be honest, not many British people would reject genuine refugees, woman and children fleeing a war but are fed up with the economic scrounging young men.
However there is something to be said about MEN fleeing war torn countries leaving the women and kids to fend for themselves? "Protect the women and children" was what DECENT MEN used to say because they were...
I had a cab driver the other day tell me in his cab that he "Hates white people and can never ever trust Europeans"...(I'm a black guy who grew up on Punk Rock in the late 80's and 90's amidst other things...he doesn't know any of that and just obviously saw me just as a black guy same as all the other black guys so i can say these things to him he'll understand...Yeah, nah mate), so my question was..."Why are you here!?" ...He will teach his outlook to his kids...Who live here in the UK...You know?
Personally I would because there are a reason why people have these sore of wars and I don’t want their way of life here
They all come for a better life the better life has gone we are all struggling working and non working shut the bloody door and sort your own house first or implode
Justin Welby statement applies 100% to locals who do not have any resources to flee.
The only reason they come here in boats is precisely so they cannot be tracked to their country of origin. If we knew where they came from most would be rejected instantly.
They could do that in mainland Europe, so what's the point in coming here??
@@polaris7122 Were you listening. Continental countries seem to have a far higher rejection rate of asylum claims than we do here, plus the activist lawyers are able to drag cases out for years in the UK. I'm not familiar with the legal process in those other countries, but have to presume that endless appeals are not permitted as they appear to be here.
@@ShanghaiRooster yes, that's why Germany has over 300,000 failed asylum seekers that they can't deport. All they have to do is lose their passports and claim to come from a country that Germany, France etc, etc, don't have a treaty with. So please explain why pay thousands to come here?????
For once I agree with Peter Hitchens. On newsnight this week a somewhat pious and self righteous former member of the cloth on the panel suggested that the percentage of illegal migrants was small. Really, multiply that per year and it becomes significant. The traffickers are not just petty criminals, I,m sure they are connected all the way to the top of governments and industry..
But Peter is correct on that. Compared to those migrants who enter the UK through the various legal methods (work, study, etc) the boat people are small beer (despite their increasing numbers). A cynic might say that the government are happy to allow the crossings to continue - whilst making a public fuss about it - because they are a useful cover for the far greater rate of migration by other means, about which the native population has not yet got in its head the full truth of what is happening.
What about the legal ones. That's far higher. 😮
Does the Archbishop think these hundreds of thousands of single, young, fighting aged men coming over on boats who are mainly Muslims, can somehow be converted to his rapidly diminishing flock?
When Justin Welby was making his speech in the house of Lords,I'm sure I am not the only one who seen the other Bishop to his left was sleeping,so how much are these bishops getting paid to attend the house of Lords,and what do they actually do for attending?
Other than sleeping I’ve no idea 🙄😡
Sorry, all our problems would disappear if they all went home.
@You Kay Who would fill the doctors waiting rooms and the hospital beds and who would the doctors and nurses tend to if they ALL went home? We should have to see a white doctor and get a dental appointment without going private and maybe reclaim our old laws and regulations, streets and policing - Sundays could once again become a day of rest (changed forever since the Asians opened up all the corner shops on the Sabbath).
In 2007, The Independent reported that major Food stores had highlighted that they were serving 77 million people in the UK. Farmers are now saying the food being sold shows them that the population in 90M. ONS stats show that proportionally the UK has more people that was born abroad than America.
and Thames Water reports more poo in London sewers - who says Britain is guilty of low productivity
@@celtspeaksgoth7251 LOL
Great to hear some sound Biblical exegesis and common sense.
Well said Peter, you've got the courage to say how it is.
Its disgraceful we were never consulted this country belongs to us the native population i dont want to see us a minority in our own country
We will have to come to our senses, realising the population of the United Kingdom, is becoming too large for us to cope, and provide healthcare and social care to everyone who needs it.
Unfortunately Charity begins at home, and we must first help our own needy, and however much we want to help others, we simply cannot afford it.
It's to late for that.
Thank you. I wish we had common sense in our country saying that.
Blame our government who encourages this behaviour or why else would they reward them . Where are all the holiday goers going to stay who can’t get booked into a coastal hotel .? That’s going to hammer local economies
Very expensive country to live the uk currently, you would only come here if someone was daft enough to pay your Bill's and give you free accommodation....hang on.
Pretty much allowed ourselves to be marginalized in our 1 and only land for others from afar who want a better life.
Peter Hitchens the voice of common sense. The public services in this country are buckling due to the size of the population. How good to hear someone say it.
The NHS / dentistry / sewerage system / electrical grid / housing stock cant be called the R word, can it?!?!?
Well when Spaniards tried to invade us by sea we burned their boats BUT we didn't have a woke archbishop in those days did we 😮
If a nation has an obligation to take people in, how long will it remain a sovereign nation? Doesn't a sovereign nation have the right to decide for itself who comes in and who doesn't?
Love to listen to Peter Hichens. Accuracy and factual truth!
Overpaid people with Non-jobs (i.e if that job ended it wouldn't make a difference) should try to step out of their selfish, sheltered existence and try to find empathy for the Ordinary people that don't enjoy their affluent life styles that aren't currently effected by economic immigration!
WELL SAID YOU !
If mass uncontrolled immigration continues, there may come a point at which there are not enough jobs to go round. Suddenly the 'better life' these young men want may not be attainable.
What then? The rapid growth in population is unsustainable, the pressure on the NHS, housing, education and the environment is massive. Unless I am mistaken it is already difficult for young people to get on the housing ladder. The cost of housing illegal migrants is spiralling upwards and is a huge drain on resources.
“Young men”
They aren’t even human.
@@sabrinatscha2554 Well they certainly aren't Klingons! Of course they are human but they may have some rather bad manners. Some of them might have a bad attitude towards women. Others could have criminal intent or a history of crime. Trouble is we don't actually know anything about these individuals crossing the channel in dinghies and backs of lorries. Nor do we vet or detain them. We do not have any effective border controls and this fact spurs the people traffickers on to get as many migrants into the country. It is abundantly clear that immigration into overcrowded England is out of control and, in my view, will end in tears.
I’m sure I echo the majority when I express doubt that a significant number, perhaps the majority, of ‘these men’ are coming over here with the intent of getting a job tbh…
The major problem I have with Christianity is that, in some interpretations at least, it encourages suicidal self-sacrifice.
Self-sacrifice can be admirable if done for loved ones (e.g family/spouse). But should a nation sacrifice itself for a never ending stream of needy people seeking a better life? Secular Leftists and Liberal Christians will say yes. Those of us who wish to conserve our nation, its way of life, and its living standards must say no.
A never ending stream of needy people today. Come tomorrow, they'll be demanding & threatening.
Made some great points! Which side of WEF does Archbishop take?
Each and every politician/ party are shaping this country to suit their own personal political beliefs without even considering the will of the people who have put them there. Blair started this mess and like sheep every government since has followed blindly. There is no repercussions for those who implement these policies as is abundantly clear as they all move on to either get knighted or promoted to the Lord's. It's the hard working public who constantly have to make this work and if they dare complain are marked as right wing racists or even disgustingly called Nazi's. Totally unbelievable and the ruin of the country is being written into the history books .
I went to a Wetherspoons in Wrexham the other day, and EVERY single member of staff had come off a small boat. I stormed out in disgust.
I was in Wrexham last year to visit cousins . My god the place is overrun with heavily pregnant Roma, people from all over the world. Drug dealing by foreigners was open on the steps going down the Cathedral car park 🤦🏻♂️
How about this, if the Archbishop believes what he says then he should specify that If you are a Christian, a true believer then it's YOUR duty and Yours alone to house, feed and educate and care for, including dentist and hospital fees, these "poor, starving, homeless immigrants, let it come from YOUR pocket, YOU, the true and faithful believer, pay more taxes to alleviate YOUR "duty". People NOT of your faith must not be forced to take on YOUR so called Christian burden / obligation.
but Jesus only had time for believers. Non-believers could do one. No Muslims back then of course.
Matthew 25 is what he is referring to at the beginning. Hitchens is right...who does Welby envisage to do this benevolence work? Govt? Church? Him?
The other passage is Luke 18 and asks the question as to whether Welby is being self righteous to shame others.
'The country falling flat' seems to be the objective.
Well said
How can you take anyone seriously who thinks they are a spokesman for a man made god who lives on a cloud in the sky.
Why do atheists always paint this childish picture of God being an old man with a beard who lives in the clouds? It's so silly.
In the Old testament, each tribe had its own god. Moses acknowledged other gods but declared his was better.
The tribal god might be considered l'esprit de corps so to speak.
What is the redress of a British person that is attacked in some way by one of these chancers? A raped person. A robbed person. An injured person. A murdered person. The law seems to place their claims at a lower status than those of the attacker, the foreigner, the never-paid-a-penny-to-the-system person.
How on earth is that just?
Well said that man!!!
Surely, if we didn't house and give money to these immigrants, they wouldn't want to come here. Take these away, I am sure they would not want to stay.
Well Said Peter Hitchens!
Actually, With The Tower Of Babel God Saw Clearly That Humanity Was Safer Being Divided - So He Mixed The Languages, To Curb Human’s Nefarious Purposes.
It's to keep Bezos in consumers.
And cheap drivers. All about very cheap labour and debt slavery.
Well said.
Hitchens makes a very good point about why this is being permitted to happen by our political establishment ie the perpetuation of the low wage economy.
Time for a truly open and frank debate about what amounts to unchecked immigration to this country.
There are certainly pros and cons, I accept that, but uncontrolled immigration into what are inevitably predominantly poorer areas and the resulting competition for and stress upon already squeezed resources is bound to foment discord.
A load of well to do do-gooders like Welby who won't in all honesty experience those stresses sounding off about compassion for your fellow man might sound virtuous, but it's offensive to those who are continually forced to endure the consequences of his posturing.
There seems to be a mass influx of Africans over the last 2 years in north Manchester.. anyone know the reason for this has there been a trade deal or something like that?
It's because they want to fuse Europe, and Africa together for the new world order. You ain't seen nothing yet, the UK and Europe will be unrecognisable soon. Sorry to say.
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We’re supposed to respect a man of the cloth in Welby’s case, it’s impossible. He is arrogant tinged with stupidity. The C of E churches congratulations are dropping like flies, what this bloke doing about it?