[ POE 3.17 ] ArchNemesis League Starter Builds: Path of Exile

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  • @NavandisGaming
    @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Here are the links to the recommended builds 💪
    *Cyclone Slayer* - th-cam.com/video/aF8-A4PAMjs/w-d-xo.html
    *Poisonous Concoction Champion* - th-cam.com/video/yfM_e_LMOw8/w-d-xo.html
    *General's Cry Shield Crush* - th-cam.com/video/w70tJIIJ5TU/w-d-xo.html
    *Viper Strike Pathfinder* - th-cam.com/video/aiZ-9ei-t58/w-d-xo.html
    *Skeleton Mage Necromancer* - th-cam.com/video/vOtcJ9CsIbY/w-d-xo.html
    *Twitch stream* : www.twitch.tv/navandis
    *Discord* : discord.gg/9M6N6Wf

  • @yuhwan6337
    @yuhwan6337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    0:00 intro
    1:18 Cyclone Slayer
    2:58 Poisonous Concoction Champion
    4:31 General's Cry Shield Crush
    6:34 Viper Strike Pathfinder
    8:01 Skeleton Mage Necromancer

    • @Cboz1978
      @Cboz1978 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Poison starts more at 3:00

    • @yuhwan6337
      @yuhwan6337 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Cboz1978 my bad I wrote it wrong.

  • @countzero99uk
    @countzero99uk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I took a break from the last couple of leagues, looking forward to getting going again. Think all of these look promising :-) Might hold of on the SkeleMage this time though as its what ive run before, so pleased to see your still providing content :-). Thanks a lot.

  • @HalfofTheWholePair
    @HalfofTheWholePair 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Every one of those builds are absolute winners! Great builds and overviews, Nav! Thanks for always getting us these guides with ample time (and proper knowledge) for the new league, even if it means several later nights on your end :/ we appreciate you!

    • @dstngames7545
      @dstngames7545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      literally all of these builds are outdated he only renamed the titles of the video's..

  • @silverfox7644
    @silverfox7644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A solid lineup, thnx for your hard work

  • @scjohnson243
    @scjohnson243 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As usual, Great information Nav.

  • @Gimpo925
    @Gimpo925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did a test run of your spin2win build and its amazing, even with just a Hegemon's Era and Belly of the Beast, praxis ring uniques. Very good build.

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hege's will easily get you to low red-tier maps, if you have a bit of flat dmg here and there and a bit of crit multi 👍

  • @BritonWells
    @BritonWells 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Loving the POB for cyclone slayer. Seems a bit off-meta which is fun and looking forward to a more linear gearing curve. I generally only go with 1 build per league so don't mind taking a while to ramp up as long as I don't have to play the acts again..!

    • @HalfofTheWholePair
      @HalfofTheWholePair 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's seriously one of the things I hate most about alt characters in PoE

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's exactly how the gearing progression works for the Cyclone Slayer - for example, if you have a 50c weapon and then upgrade to a 100c one, you should see a noticeable difference (as long as you buy the right stuff 😁) and the same goes on and on even at sky-high levels of gearing.

  • @Edwall86
    @Edwall86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really really miss your Arc witch guide! It's my favourite build guide of all time

  • @WesternHypernormalization
    @WesternHypernormalization 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a wise man once said: "It's -happy hour- Legion league somewhere!" The heart want what the heart wants, and damn it, it wants cyclone! Also, duelist has new post Act 4 dialogue.
    I was seriously thinking about doing Jaamon's blood magic version because it's been a hot minute since blood magic has been a thing, but Perfidy being a t1 drop (I think) and over 35,000 people watching that video... well, I remember what BigDuck's fire bf/bb build did to the price of flipping Vulconus of all things and I think I'll take a wait and see approach 😅

  • @andersnielsen4077
    @andersnielsen4077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Might There be a arc witch update? Great content as always!❤️

  • @mubgaplays2949
    @mubgaplays2949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm so indecise between cyclone, Viper strike and skele mages... I feel like i always get hardstuck in lvls 90-93. Besides that i normally play One build per league because i get hardstuck and cannot farm enough currency for a second build... Help!

    • @HalfofTheWholePair
      @HalfofTheWholePair 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      100% go cyclone. If you want, Nav could probably offer you some advice while he is streaming. His next stream is Wednesday and I'm sure he'd welcome your question 🙂

    • @ladyfrost3931
      @ladyfrost3931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cyclone all the way

    • @zedzeduk
      @zedzeduk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't go skelly mages then. You need "dead reckoning" to get the "mage" part going, and that could easily be 40-50c in the first 4 to 5 days. That said, normally by the time I'm 90+ on my league start I've enough currency (like, maybe 60-70c minimum, maybe 1-2 ex) to start another build ... and the price for some uniques (like dead reckoning!) is down to a level that means it's more easily "do-able" as a 2nd build. I totally "build-hop" though ... I normally end up with 3-4 characters all in that 85-93 level "space". I get bored easily and just can't do the "grind" to get much higher.

    • @mubgaplays2949
      @mubgaplays2949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zedzeduk It's not like I can't get 40-50c in the first 2 days or so. The downside for me with skelly mages is that i dont really play the game (you afk walk while your minions do everything). However if i play skelly mages i can go smoothly through the game without having problems with currency. In the other hand I have cyclone which is a bit more fun to play but i might have problems progressing through the game because of the lack of currency. I want to be able to go smoothly through campaing all the way up to tier 16 maps and bosses relatively easy. I have discarted viper strike now as i feel it lacks a bit of Damage compared to the other 2.

  • @ВасилийТатаринцев-к5ж
    @ВасилийТатаринцев-к5ж 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Phantasms still playable? after EE moved far away didnt try it... waiting for guide\pob, TY

  • @boggybog
    @boggybog 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    so youre one person made my favorite build of all time, im new though so its a short time. Could you look at Elemental hit Raider for 3.17. Items for the 3.16 build dont feel right.

  • @BeniTheOni
    @BeniTheOni 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are you going to update your general cry build ?

  • @machito164
    @machito164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its cyclone for me. but why no tank version with max block and the surrender? wouldnt this be much more smooth in high endgame?

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Max block can no longer be easily obtained, especially spell block and definitely not without sacrificing a HUGE amount of DPS. And if you're stacking mostly attack block, well that's not too useful as most attacks are physical damage (or a large part of their damage is) and we have plenty of phys dmg mitigation already. And since that is not a HC build, I think dying every now and then is perfectly fine as long as your overall efficiency is high 👍

    • @machito164
      @machito164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NavandisGaming ok thanx! :) well no hardcore for me anyway ;) defence and tankiness is most important for me. i hate dying once per map. maybe i use your build and try to add more defence by using more defensive jewels.

    • @zedzeduk
      @zedzeduk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@machito164 Don't think Nevandis means dying once per map - that's definitely too much! (unless you have "cast on death -> portal" going on, but even then the XP loss is a killer). However, if HC then you can't afford to be spinning into something and having that "oh no" moment a second to late, so yeah, definitely not a HC build.

    • @machito164
      @machito164 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zedzeduk ok fine. i was just afraid because he rated the defence 3/5. for me it sounds like you die often in juiced red maps. but ok if this is not the case ...

  • @jakubciesielski6650
    @jakubciesielski6650 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    idk general's cry didnt work for me when I played it last time

  • @hectormil
    @hectormil 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey @NavadisGaming is your 3.15/16 Elemental Hit Raider still working for 3.17?? Keep the good work your guides are amazing!!

  • @jackeltheboss
    @jackeltheboss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    need to know if ethereal knives skill have a good build , and i u can help me how to create i build

  • @ampatrao
    @ampatrao 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any decent scion builds in your backlog? It's literally the only class i've never played due to a lack of any builds. Even a yellow to early red maps capable build would be sweeet just to try it out

  • @jinda002
    @jinda002 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    as a newbie.. i was so excited to follow skeleton mage build but it turns out dead reckoning is very expensive as oppose to this guide.

    • @ampatrao
      @ampatrao 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This league i's incredibly easy to target farm specific uniques with the archnemesis mechanic. Go to a level 20 zone with a new character and use the beserker mod first so you get unique drops. Plus Dead Reckoning is one of those uniques that will always be expensive at league start then tank in price. It'll literally be a 1 chaos item a month in. You'll start seeing the price drop daily. The amount of uniques that hold their super high value are incredibly small. Save your currency for items that have already perfect needed off color sockets. I remember the nightmare of trying to get the perfect colors on triad grip gloves all to well still lol
      So far while leveling a poisonous concoction champion i've gotten a tabula, goldrim cap, praxis ring, dusktoe boots, dead reckoning jewel and a redblade shield. All without even fully understanding the league mechanic at all. I pick something and kill the boss. General's cry shield crush speaks to my soul, might have to try that build this season too

    • @dstngames7545
      @dstngames7545 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      its 6-10c ....

  • @Tokashiza
    @Tokashiza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you have a decent build for Hexblast or an ignite heavy Occy build?

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ooof, I actually had an amazing Hexblast Doedre's Skin build designed and ready to go a few days before Scourge went live. Then out of nowhere GGG decided to obliterate that unique which was only used by like 3 people in the entire game and make it so the effigies were (once more) no longer instant cast. That completely ruined the build before I could put out the guide for it 😢 haven't revisited Hexblast since then...

    • @Tokashiza
      @Tokashiza 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NavandisGaming ah that is unfortunate. I have a sort of hexblast build, can potentially do 8mil ignite dot dps. Using the blackflame, Amethyst ring, only required unique. The only bad part is for end game gear, I will need a 100ex Cane of Kulemak. I was wondering if there were any other alternative builds.

  • @s_t315
    @s_t315 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd like to play cyclone, but the general's cry one seems nice too. Any suggestions?

    • @HGW1776
      @HGW1776 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve been playing generals cry shield crush in 3.16.. susceptible to one shots quite often and requires some investment but destroys everything

  • @al3kx241
    @al3kx241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot ^_*

  • @spookymulder81
    @spookymulder81 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really loving this build but i just got my level 60 staff, that with brutality support implies i'm only doing physical damage but nothing is taking damage at the moment. what am i missing??

    • @spookymulder81
      @spookymulder81 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i did remove the brutality support in the meantime and i'm back to killing mobs again. i just can't seem to connect what i'm missing

  • @Nathan-dd5ci
    @Nathan-dd5ci 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm thinking of going skele mages as a league starter. Any way we could get updated 3.17 POBs for it and your other starters in the video?

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They've all been updated before this vid went live

  • @Henurisongs
    @Henurisongs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    on the viper strike build. is there any incentive to use the nightblade + perfect agony combo? since viper strike doesnt really care about hits i figured it would be a pretty good option with a bit of extra crit investment.

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nightblade + perfect agony on their own won't really do much if you stack just a bit of crit multi, definitely not enough to offset the loss of one of the current support gems. Going deeper into that means you'll need to sacrifice even more passives and item affixes, by which point you've pretty much turned the build into a crit one 😁
      Now, I did toy a bit with the idea of using the combo for Cobra Lash because that skill actually has innate bonuses for crit multi stacking and it was designed with PA and Nightblade in mind (CL and Nightblade were introduced in the same patch). I haven't yet however finalized that into a proper build

    • @Henurisongs
      @Henurisongs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NavandisGaming yeah i tried out the combo and used it to level on a cobra lash shadow at the time and the poison degen felt like my old endgame setup. but i completely forgot that ca scalled better from crit than viper strike

  • @alderion2166
    @alderion2166 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    after 15 league i´ll be using a cyclone build, your guide encourage me to play it

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear that! Make sure you watch the guide carefully, especially the leveling part - I promise you there's literally 0 fluff in this video and it's all useful information. That knowledge will make a big difference in how efficient you'll be.
      I've also added a few more tips&tricks for early leveling in the pinned comment 👍

    • @alderion2166
      @alderion2166 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NavandisGaming i was wondering if its possible to lvl with splitting steel until act 4 to swap to cyclone

  • @Scholetta
    @Scholetta 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hola, starter ballista explosion arrow is good or hard for clear or boss ?

    • @SaJgonify
      @SaJgonify 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ES ballista will be the most playing build in 3.17.

  • @gh0stcloud499
    @gh0stcloud499 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, do you think molten strike jugg will be viable this patch? Always wanted to try it but I usually only have enough time to play one character per league

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately MS became viable again for a brief time thanks to its interaction with Hydrosphere which was now gutted. Not sure if without it MS will be even average :

  • @rainblue8005
    @rainblue8005 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i saw poison concoction pathfinder video, do you think champion is better?

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The PF has somewhat more damage but definitely much less tankiness; both are absolutely viable it just depends what you value more: DPS or survivability

  • @Ghetthe
    @Ghetthe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Champion Poisonous conc is better than Occultist?

    • @autoNX
      @autoNX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pathfinder for more damage, occultist for more survivability.

  • @kushina6400
    @kushina6400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wanted freezing pulse, or arc witch to be on this list. :'(

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      FP is in a bit of a weird spot right now - yes it did get a major DPS buff, but it lost all the extra projectiles from the threshold jewels. That means you'd need to swap in GMP to maintain the existing level of clearing. That in turn pretty much offsets all the buffs, which puts FP pretty much back to its state in 3.16.
      These changes for FP are on a completely different level than what most other spells got (pure buffs) and I really can't understand why GGG chose this route. I have the feeling it was an oversight because there's no reason for FP, of all the spells out there, to not receive any real buff.
      As for Arc, if you've played it in 3.16 then it should be totally fine in 3.17, pretty much unchanged and with much better damage. I am planning on completely redoing that build just because the guide is quite outdated, but I simply didn't have enough time to do that yet 👍

  • @MrSebszczyn
    @MrSebszczyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey there, couple of weeks ago i've started my first char in poe and it was elemental hit raider from your guide. i have little to no knowledge about poe and cant figure out is it any good in 3.17 patch notes. if someone could tell me if its still viable that would be great :)

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nothing really changed for that build, while the bow bases will be stronger that won't really have a big impact due the way Elemental Hit scales in that build. Just keep in mind that in a league start scenario the economy is much more different than after the mid-league point so some of the items will be much more expensive early on. It won't be a very easy build to league start with, but it can be done 👍

    • @MrSebszczyn
      @MrSebszczyn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NavandisGaming thanks for info

  • @rax313
    @rax313 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was hoping phantasm necro would be updated =( but ok guess I will try the skellie mages

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are absolutely no changes from 3.16 for the Phantasm Necro so if you've played it in Scourge then it should be identical (okay, we'll actually get some buffs from Eldritch crafting, but those won't change the build 😁)

    • @rax313
      @rax313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NavandisGaming thank you appreciate the answer. Thanks again !!

  • @ledf2012
    @ledf2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im either going for the cyclone or skelemage
    from a noobs perspective, the endgame and mapping changes looks more approacheable and super fun!!! especially with keeping up with decent maps, no more watchstones management, and I can now play more blight which I super enjoy :) (mid tier noob, still havent fought any of the endgame bosses in the past 🤣)

  • @naju332
    @naju332 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    summoner best to stand far away from boss

  • @zedzeduk
    @zedzeduk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dead reckoning was still up at 40-50c in the first 4-5 days of the league, and I think it will be an even more popular league start this time round. So for me it's not 5/5 league starter as you definitely need this gem to get your "planned" build off the ground. Sure you can do skelly warriors until you can afford it - but you need to be happy to do this for days until you get the currency together (depending on how much you play, ofc, but if you can only manage a few hours a day then yeah, the build is centered around a jewel you might not get in week 1).

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is one single item that pretty much opens up the entire build; the way you're describing this is as if other builds spending 40-50c would get MUCH more performance than this build. What is the difference between buying 5 pieces of gear for 2c each + a Dead Reckoning for 40c or buying 5 pieces of gear for 10c each? Because the rest of the starter gear for the Skelemage (or minion builds in general) is just life + resistances, you don't get any damage mods on that basic gear. Whereas pretty much all other builds will need the same res + life but also damage mods.
      Look at your character gearing and budget as a whole, not individual purchases. Otherwise, then at least use the exact same logic for other builds: any attack build will require a good weapon, any caster build will require a good wand or sceptre and those will also cost 40-50c in those first 4-5 days. For this build your weapon is Dead Reckoning.
      So the question becomes - do you believe that spending 50c on this build in the first days of a new league will provide significantly less performance than spending 50c on any other build? If the answer is no, how much of those 50c represents the cost of Dead Reckoning is irrelevant.

    • @zedzeduk
      @zedzeduk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NavandisGaming No - i don't (or didn't mean to imply) that 40-50c gets you "less" for this build - I just mean that the jewel "makes" this build, and (for me) it's a bit of a risk that I can't afford it day 3/4 etc and I'd be stuck playing a similar (but not quite the same) build. I love your content - and I'll probably league start your cyclone build - the effort you put into that is tremendous. But - I still disagree that skelly mages is "5/5 league starter" because there is a chance you don't have the currency to get the build defining unique item (especially if lots of people start with it and there is demand/low supply of the jewel - it could even push up beyond 50c). Ofc, if people are happy mapping with skelly warriors until they get the currency that's great and maybe for them it's a 5/5. Just my 2c worth, as they say, and hopefully you're not frustrated or annoyed by my original comment (If you are let me know and I'll remove it).

    • @NavandisGaming
      @NavandisGaming  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zedzeduk No worries at all man it didn't bother me at all, I just wanted to provide some context into why I believe it's a really decent league starter even with the risk of having the jewel stay expensive for a few days 👍

  • @havoc7154
    @havoc7154 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bow builds plssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

    • @receth
      @receth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is a new bleed bow glad in the channel already

  • @grimmjowthepantera
    @grimmjowthepantera 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    no ele hit . :(((((((

  • @mystictrunks5508
    @mystictrunks5508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Spin to wins back? Say no more

  • @aandrenery
    @aandrenery 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    No Miners?

  • @tut8banana
    @tut8banana 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    no lightning strike 🤣

  • @Bolaway
    @Bolaway 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never wanted Lost Ark to come like today. Seems like PoE still stucking in 5 builds every single league start