SONY'S CEO doubles down on wanting full control of Playstation games, keeping PSN requirements and restrictions in place "for safety." Yeah...right. ►PCGamer PSN Account Article: t.ly/wrik7 ►GameRant Helldivers CEO Admits Article: t.ly/MdkMh ►Paul Tassi/FORBES Article PSN Accounts Article: t.ly/Yuhmc ►PCGamer Ragnarok Refunds/Gamers Not Happy Article: t.ly/CX3E6 ►PlayStation Direct Website Seen In Video: direct.playstation.com/en-us/games/catalog?s=onlineDate-desc ►PCGamer Sony Isn't Giving Up Article: t.ly/8P0a6 ►SONY Quarterly Statement t.ly/VDeMi ►GamesRadar Concord Article t.ly/05tzm ►Concord Cost Millions FORBES Article t.ly/WKTDu ►SONY Past Data Breaches Article t.ly/V4XP1 ►WCCFTech SONY Record Quarterly Earnings Article t.ly/kdf6o ►GamesRadar Inviting Pushback SONY Statement Article t.ly/p19sd discord.gg/RNeJA8cVqb www.patreon.com/ltbuzzlitebeer www.twitch.tv/ltbuzzlitebeer www.youtube.com/@LtBuzzLitebeer twitter.com/LtBuzzLitebeer Official Buzz Merch - buzzs-boutique.creator-spring.com
My theory is Sony do this on purpose to stop releasing games on PC, by showing investors that games do not peform well on PC. And their games being released on PC was just push from investors in the first place.
They have an odd love for DEI. Helldivers is in that pile of games they are not even considering to put in nominees for GOTY due to this what should be an irrelevant bias.
Sony “We want your personal data to sell for more money, and allow to be stolen during record breaking data breaches” there now it is translated properly.
@@ChronoMoth Are you trying to say that Sony is the only one who has data breaches? If you are that's ridiculous Microsoft and other tech companies has just as many if not more then Sony. Quit acting like data breaches are somehow new and only affect Sony.
fr, see what they do their Marvel IP... that's free money if you just let Disney use them, but no they have to do it themselves and we get the literal worst shit imaginable.
"You will own nothing and be happy." That perfectly sums up what Sony is attempting. The best way to combat this is to stop supporting Sony altogether. PC gamers don't and will NEVER need Sony's protection. Their exlusives aren't that special.
Well you look at their history Sony has always been a greedy company Even the guy who made it his whole goal was to create technology that people could buy easy but as soon he got his first success that went out the door and money became his new master
I am a diver from the philippines 250+ hours in the game, a few warbonds under my belt, and fun experience I had with all those divers old and new I helped. I wont sign up for their bull banning everyone in my country from playing it who would gladly give it to them, and repeatedly trying to sell a “safety” that isnt worth shit from how many times its been breached. If this goes through I will not play, simple as that because they can kiss my black and yellow behind
Your explanation of where you're from at the start made me confused at the ending statement, I thought you meant you were severely bruised for a second but it's our armor colors LOL
@@Snaic even tho you are right with the overall number of countries it still ist not 200 countires, or 195 countries who cant play. 70 or so can and any other country where it was sold still can play if they have the game bought and not given back. You only can't buy the games there anymore
@alphatito868 It's unplayable in ~170 countries because those countries don't have access to PSN services. The original comment was rounding up to 200 countries from 170. It's still unplayable in the majority of the world, which is not cool.
Inside the game: trying to eliminate the Automatons and keep the Terminids under control. Outside the game: trying to eliminate Sony and keep Arrowhead under control. Groundbreaking levels of immersion.
@@badgoat6926 Steam refunded a bunch of players out of their own pocket (so to speak) and called Sony out on how bullshit a move Sony made because the PSN linking demand cut out several entire countries and made HD2 unplayable for people in those countries who were previously able to play the game? Aside from that, idk. Maybe just not suck megabutt?
A friend of mine was thinking of buying a PS4, but he mistaken and said “sorry, I meant PS5.” I said to him, “There is no differences. Only PS5 is evolving backwards.” Then I told him, “are you going to buy a PS5?” He said no and that he is going to buy a PC instead. I said, “good choice, PS5 isn’t worth shit.” I own a PS5 by the way, and all this years of experience having a big piece of dog shit in my house aren’t fun.
This has never been a "safety" issue for Sony. It's always been a numbers issue - Sony has seen the absolutely gargantuan market that Steam has, and wants their fingers in the pie. Sony's track record with "safety" has, at best, been tepid, and at worst been straight up GARBAGE with major data breaches at least once a year, sometimes more.
Sony just doesnt get it, because they care more about the investors than the consumer. ...by blocking over 100 countries. They are losing money and consumers. They are pro-investor as much as they seem to be anti-consumer.
they didnt.. thats the thing. it was all virtue signalling.. player count dropped due to how content revolved and a change in nerfs. its all fake outrage to hate..
@@denhawken You are wrong. Of the people I know who play the game, a full third left when the PSN linking thing happened, and only half of those came back when they reversed the decision.
@crosshairs007 negative... keep dreaming. It was in the decline b4. The others that left in solidarity came back with kn a week. This has been going on for months. You've accomplished nothing on the fake virtue signaling of psn. All hd2 did was rework weapons and players come back in droves. Again don't like it leave. Your sjw karen bs exposed yourself. Prove it.. but you won't because you love crydiving.
@@gigahertz7352 I have 600 hours in HD2 and absolutely love the game. If they force millions to help them with their spreadsheet, I will ask for a refund. What are we not safe from in a 4 player PVE game?
Arrowhead needs to buy the rights to Helldivers and split. It's the only way this can end peacefully now. Sony isn't the type to give up. They called out Anonymous, didn't immediately back down, got their servers shut down, tried to hide that fact from the public, and paid dearly for that idiocy. Every studio under their control needs to do this.
The problem with that is that you need them to agree, and even if they pay them, they now need servers, which they don't have, and keep them running, as well as have enough money to pay the devs. This could be great, but also the worst decision for indi studios. They could very well just go bankrupt with that.
ahh fake outrage.. sony did nothing... yall cried.. thought you won.. sony never changed ... as for anonymous shutting down servers.. they were the thiefs not sony.. same people that hacked arrowhead. seems like sony is the only one to stand up to the crydivers and pirates.
@@Malou4000 Not entirely. Yes, they'll need to agree to selling rights, Arrowhead can easily split still without Helldivers and make a new IP that is similar to Helldivers. Servers are a non-issue. Helldivers 2, and most games today honestly, are Peer 2 Peer, meaning that the game environment is built on Player A (Host) computer, while Players B, C, and D are in that sandbox. SOME stuff will require servers, but not as much as you think. At most, they'd need servers to store things like account information. And going bankrupt is a risk, but shuttering would happen no matter what. Remember, Firewalk got closed down by Sony recently, and there's rumors Sony might be about to acquire Bungie's talent and close them down. With the current support around Arrowhead, there's a good chance that if they split, the community would continue to follow them. Hell, they might even win favor from the 170 countries still banned if they split and let them back in. As long as they don't go pulling a Pete Parson, I'm pretty confident Arrowhead could split and stay afloat long enough to get back on their feet.
I absolutely agree, but I wonder if Arrowhead even has the funds for that? I mean, Sony is a billion dollar company. I doubt they would wanna give up their top money maker, especially after the whole Concord fuckup.
sorry but to inform pirate bay surfers - that rationality will not work in court anymore.... it may have worked as late as the 00's (except according to Bill Gates of course, as per his 'letter to everyone') but in court now, they don't ask if you "made a copy but didnt take away from anyone" (The Pirate Anthem); they will ask you in court "did you experience the content".... (and of course they already know you did and will show that evidence in the court) games now are being treated more akin to a music concert or attending an art gallery...you have to PAY to 'see' and 'hear' the content within; you dont pay, you dont get 'the experience'. so, if you did not legally pay for entrance, then you are illegally experiencing the content within - yes, even if you 'copied but did not take away from anyone' etc. it's covered partially in this whole companies-all-battling-to-have-their-own-private-and-trackable-LAUNCHERS (client servers) but also just stands alone as a new way courts are handling taking in people for piracy, for the last while. buying a game = buying a license, not the game ip itself, at all (now, fully understood) car manufacturers vs owners are going through the same thing (even calling it "right to repair" like computer owners did/are) where as a vehicle owner you won't be allowed to repair the car yourself soon...
Typical corporate hubris. Nokia laughed at Apple, Kodak and Fujifilm laughed at Sony and Epson, ArianeGroup called re-usability a pipe dream, and so many more. Executives at the top of their game, leading not just companies but industries often develop a feeling of knowing what's to know. They don't see the writing on the wall or dismiss it.
Sony would NEVER allow it. The reason they have so many exclusive smaller studios is because they literally threaten them with not allowing the product to be sold on sony consoles unless they agree to be exclusive. It's never been about money, but power. Sony are what I call Bushido Businessmen and are some of the last there are because that business attitude simply doesnt work anymore and alienates customers
@@twoshieldsandsomemilk Sony can go throw a temper tantrum then, Arrowhead has proven they know what they're doing. somewhat. My grudge towards AH still isnt gone, but the games they've made ARE good. That I cant deny. So I'll stay on their side in the AH vs Sony fight
@@twoshieldsandsomemilk And we shall. If theres one thing every faction within Helldivers is united in, its that Sony's a common enemy. ..if anything it'd be the perfect "Never thought I'd fight side by side with a " Gimli/Legolas meme format. Loyalist and Chaos united again as one at long last
Just got lvl 133, over 600 hours of playing, I'll never turn the game on again if they mandate this nonsense "It's for your safety" Sony tryna roleplay as the SEAF
They never said they wouldnt not require it. It was you hype drinkers who lied about what sony and AH said. Congrats, you played yourselves. Now go cry till you play yourselves again.
Their "safety" is because they're facing failure after failure. Their leadership is getting embarrassed so often that they're feeling like they have to save some face. There is no "safety" they can offer.
@irondill4546 Especially with the disgraceful and disgusting Yasukuni Shrine. It is unfortunate that post-WW2 Japan has forgotten it's crimes by it's leaders.
The worst thing about creating PSN account is that it isn't just your name, phone and email. Your address and even a picture of your ID with that address is required to create a PSN account in some regions. Do you really want to handover that much personal data to Sony, a company known for multiple data breaches? As someone who has a PSN account, my advise to PC players is that you'll be more safe without a PSN account
The Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster literally has a log in welcome page worded in such a way that you can skip the psn login on pc but only has login and quit game options even telling you that linking grants you bonus items. After you log in, there is an option to un-link psn on the main menu! This tells me Sony literally forced psn use on the devs.
Sony: *has the worst track record of leaks and hacks* Also Sony: "You MUST link to PSN, for your safety!" Guess it's time for another round of review-bombing. Not just on Helldivers though. On EVERY "ported" or "remastered" Sony game on steam.
@denhawken ok. I haven't reinstalled Helldivers 2 on steam since SONY region locked the game. Any Helldivers gameplay I take part in is on my mate's PS5 every couple of weeks when he cycles in from his work in the coalfields. I won't be reinstalling Helldivers 2 on steam until the region lock is lifted. Arrowhead have received my money. If I never play the game again on Steam, so be it. SONY will not be getting my business. If I wanted a PSN account I would buy a PS5. Not a crydiver. I'm a Helldiver that refuses to dive (on PC) until the brothers and sisters that have been denied the game are brought back into the game. I understand what it is to commit to a cause. I'm a Union rep.
@@gigahertz7352 I'll be glad when children are banned off of social media next year (in Australia, where I live). Less of these fortnight kids thinking they know anything about gaming cluttering up the comments sections.
It's a free account. They don't make money from you linking your PSN and Steam doesn't share any personal information when you link an account. The only info they give Sony when you link your PSN is your Steam name and Proof that the game was purchased. That's it.
@@GoodBoyGoneDad while that may be a point..to politely say. Have you not seen that crap Sony as gone through with there system servers hard going down getting hacked again SEVERAL times. Yeah no reason people don't want a psn account.
That community dev that lost his job, Spitz, is an absolute idiot. You shouldn't defend that guy. He was saying he was "Owning the chuds" by telling them they were too stupid to take 2 minutes to make a PSN account. We got screenshots to prove it. You lose credibility when you say stuff like that.
Didn't he walk that back and actually state that he wasn't aware that he didn't know not all people and/or countries could make these accounts. It might just be corporate PR wrangling, but still.
He walked that back and apologized for the ignorance. He also got fired for speaking out in favor of the protest. Wrong as his initial statement and actions were, he did realize and switch sides costing his job. He righted the wrong. You refuse to acknowledge that. Worrying about losing credibility to you is not something I'd care that much over.
@@negan2714 i personally refuse to believe that Spitz's walkback and apology is genuine, because "owning the chuds" has been his modus operandi for the whole time he was a manager. People had legit concerns about the state of the game, servers and some weapons being straight up useless, and instead of addressing concerns or directing them to a proper channel, he timed people out, banned people, and was just genuinely THE worst case of a power-tripping mod i've ever witnessed. more than that, it took him something like 6 hours to figure out why community was on fire(the very same community he was supposed to manage). Legitimately the only good community manager at the time was Twinbeard, and i was feeling for the guy that day, because he got saddled with managing a dumpsterfire with a team of dipshits for the entire weekend
@@TheBigHA nah, it doesn't explain anything at all. why they took this game from 180 regions then if Black Rock owns them? This doesn't make nay sense bro
You do realize this means AH is also controlled by Black Rock right? Why do you think sony met with AH in person? Dont need the black rock plan leaked in writing.
@@DZA3051yeah, you would think it only requires a new game to lure one back to a garbage company? You would be wrong for allot of people. Some people will never learn and will continue to get burned and feed the dealers of bad stuff, I agree, but do not think we can not learn the names of the ones to avoid, crack, cocaine, blizzard and sony. ;)
@jerryandersson4873 is funny they love the gaslighting, use as a mechanism to insult us for their insecurity. But the reality is More and More people will stop buying bad products eventually, EA, BLIZZARD, UBISOFT, Microsoft and soon soney will be next if they keep going the same momentum. We are gamers not your monopoly consumer puppet, once the Korea and China gaming industry catch up it be over for them.
@@DZA3051LOL. Must be another stupid stockholmed console slave who know nothing about the vibrant pc market. And we have lots of dev that are non douchebag and doesn't treat us like idiots, you moronic sony simp
They just don't get it. PC gamers don't want 100 different launchers from 100 different companies all trying to leverage your personal data and gaming habits.
Its not only with Games...This corporate greed for personal information is everywhere!! Just bought a new phone and it is unbelievable how they fight and harass you for every byte of your personal data!
Right. They only want 99. 99 different launchers is perfectly fine, but MY GOD let's draw the line on # 100 just because it's Sony and we have some bizarre anti-Sony obsession.
I had a PSN account, and a Playstation 2. Then there was a data breach, and they wanted me to pay for a account to play a game I already punched to get online. I canceled my PSN account, and went to PC. I have NO internation of going back.
Just as an FYI the community manager in question that told everyone to refund HD2, was making fun of PC players for not wanting to link their accounts, they were not a hero, they were a bully and was justly fired
I already removed any game that was in anyway related to Sony from all my wish or watch lists. I'll just pirate anything that I'm halfway interested in from them for the rest of my life.
New plan, we keep the negative Reviews until there is no more plans on PSN AND no more blocked countries. We keep it negative until both demands have been met. Edit: If Sony doubles down, we'll just have to double down twice as hard helldivers. No more getting fooled. Leave the reviews. State the demands and don't be fooled by their messages! Let their actions speak for themselves.
@@panachevitzsame as well. Still have not played nor installed the game since the banning of those countries. In before “BuT ThOsE wHo BoUgHt ThE gAmE cAn StIlL PlAy!!!111” that’s not the point. They banned the countries because they do not support PSN there… if a PSN account is no longer needed then why STILL ban the countries?
This is exactly why we never got it. It was teased out to cull our aggression and then occasionally snippets brought up to keep us docile about it. Words from liars and schemers are worthless
DUUUUHHHHH!!!! YA'll NEVER WONDERED WHY WE NEVER GOT THE CAPE!? IT'S CUZ IT WAS NEVER SETTLED. BUT FOR SOME REASON YA'll GAVE UP THE BOYCOTT CUZ "THEY SAID SO". Ya'll are the sad definition of gullible losers.
Its genuinely impressive, GENUINELY IMPRESSIVE how in the clouds executive head's heads are. They see one single projection of "but we could have THIS much money" and drive their golden goose to death and beyond trying to reach it. The utter lack of awareness is baffling. Just sit back and rake in the millions this game is making you rather than nuking your profits throwing a tantrum over that tiny little bit of extra cheddar you're not making.
Shareholders are the worst. People who don't give a shit about the end product being able to vote on the direction the company goes is a terrible idea, and it sure seems like they only ever vote on the quick easy buck, it's no wonder stupidity like this happens.
Making a PSN account is definitely not for your "safety," considering you're about 100x more likely to have your data breached under the watchful eye of Sony.
This isn’t because of safety, Sony is doing so bad they need to boost their players database by any means necessary. They really think people are that invested in helldivers will take this. But we are talking about a fandom that can rally people around and get shit done. The only way to show corpos they are NOT in control is by simply spreading awareness about Sony and making people NOT play helldivers until the CEO sucks his pride up and does something good for once
Deleted Helldivers 2 the day that Sony wanted to add the PSN requirement. Won't buy anything from Sony anymore. Was part of the data breach back in the day and it was a f'ing nightmare. So long Sony
Laughing emojis like you wouldn't be at risk with how often sony has these data breaches. Cant wait for that "Bye 😂" to turn into "My credit cards keep getting charged after my ps account info was leaked" @@k2error86
why delete? just get some crack or otherwise removal of drm, i am sure there was already some by that point. refund then use pirate copy - aka have a cake and eat the cake at same time.
I quit playing after May. Kept HD2 in my library hoping against hope that they’d rescind the country delistings and remove the requirement. Now I’m largely just disappointed that I’ll never get to play the sequel of Death Stranding. Was really looking forward to that game.
I swear Sony and Disney are having a competition to see how many franchise's they can destroy before the fans of the franchise's decide to go full Adolf Hitler on their clown arses
Sony needs to understand who's in charge here. I have a plethora of companies trying to get me to play their games. You either make your product customer friendly or I walk. I do not trust Sony with my data nor do I need them to protect me. I literally do not play/own any Sony products save for Helldivers. If they force PSN link, Im retiring. Back down or be prepared to lose money Sony.
Now do the same for Ubisoft and Microsoft's games if you're so inclined to not trust companies with your data. Sony isnt the only one who has had data breaches in the past.
@@gamingcantina9157 sadly we live in a time where we must pick our demons because literally everyone does this even now in this vary website google makes it there BUISNESS to collect and sell your data along with making advertisement on the side. Some demons we simply cant run from
@@gamingcantina9157great Another person who overlooks why people don’t trust Sony. Yes, all kinds of companies can or have been breached, but when Sony faces multiple breaches and some on actual company management levels that’s when we don’t trust them. Plus, in Helldivers 2 they didn’t have the requirement of an account on the steam store page, nor did they force it day one.
Sony does understand. They saw that most of the sheep they cared about stayed in the pen after one well-worded apology and figured that’d give them plenty of people willing to just accept this once the game improved and enough time had passed. And they’re probably right.
@@OneBiasedOpinion They are right indeed. It's been 6 months and the game is still not available in most countries and yet majority of players just stopped caring because Sony apologized and so they think that they've 'won'. I've browsed some posts on Reddit and most people already just don't care that it is banned in other countries as long as it doesn't directly affect them, they became content with it and Sony is well aware of that.
I did not do it for Helldivers 2 I will NOT set up an account for any Sony Games PERIOD! Reinstalled Helldivers 2 about a week ago thinking I'd get back in FORGET IT, Screw OFF SONY! Sony Brand Games just made it to the IGNORE LIST, MY WALLET IS CLOSED!!!
@@DracoOoOoOosteam always needed an account if I recall to keep library's in general. But steam has yet to have breaches where sony has had a breach every 4-5 years
I don't understand the stance of "player protection" i have been on a few random drops and for thr most part everyone is quiet. If I don't like what is going on i bail. If I am the one running the squad and someone is toxic i would kick them. Would, I never have had the need. I don't understand their stance.
That's because they're lying. They don't give a shit about protecting players or users. They just want justification to force more aggressive data collection and to fluff their PSN user numbers up for investors.
@@spectralassassin6030 Yep and IMO this shouldn't be legal, it's fake numbers to bloat stats for shareholder calls.... it's effectively a type of fraud.
Its a shallow explanation that pleases both the "modern audience" conscious investors and opens covers their asses with a plausible reason for doing so that is not the farming of user data
bro. back in the day their PSN was down for like 5 or 6 days straight, no one could get on or play AT ALL - and in that time a special forces unit when in and killed Bin Laden. and in my head canon it was BECAUSE they couldn't get online and someone linked the attack to Bin Laden.
I don't get how hard it is to just make the PSN requirement optional, but provide some sort of incentive for signing up. I know they're trying to juice the numbers because it looks good to investors, but I'd think getting a crapload of extra sales would look better. Why lock so many countries out of spending money on your product?
I play on Playstation and I actually uninstalled the game back when the suits tried this before. I've already boycotted Ubi and Activision, so adding Sony to the list won't be that big of a deal.
"Won't be that big of a deal" At the same time that list of companies you gotta boycott keeps growing. If we aren't careful someday we won't have an alternative to turn to
@@TheBigHA If this is what gaming has come to then we dont need an alternative, fuck these greedy corporate asshats let them wither away into bankruptcy
what ever narrative sony wants to try and spin, we all know in the end this is all about corporate greed, more player feedback from a different platform, a few more emails to advertise too, usernames, phone numbers. more pockets with revenue. its all about the money. the EAAASIEST way to do that for this game, is port to xbox collect the profits from the port and just be happy with boosting the player base by 30%. 800 hours logged i happily dive to lower difficulties stock up on super credits, test weapon loadouts etc. but i also like helping lower level players learn how to fight and win while having fun. as per arrowhead that is... JUST BUFF THE EFFING SLUGGER ALREADY!
Unlikely. They know their consumers are loath to let go of so much progress and they’ve waited this long specifically to ensure they net a lot of long-time players with a lot of time and earnings in the game. Boycotts won’t matter this time now that they know it takes very little to change our minds. The chance to “teach them a lesson” was back in May and the community threw it away.
*Socialize* the games industry - MORE unions against giant corporate publishers - MORE independent studios - owned by workers not shareholders. - MORE consumer protections, FOSS and public owned alternatives.
I personally love indie studios, they do drop the odd diamond or two every so often… it’s also less driven by the political atmosphere that has gobbled up the mainstream industry. So I approve of your message!
My negative review is right where I left it back in May. Y’all should have done the same, because now it just looks even more pathetic when what’s left of the community does the same thing a second time after realizing they were played like chumps the first time.
Where was this chant for the past 5+ months? It’s funny how it only matters now that the mask is removed once more, because after the first boycott everyone celebrated and promptly forgot about that slogan, despite the fact that there were still a whole bunch of us who still couldn’t dive. 🤔
hey, As an old Sony fanboy, I know Sony has been hacked like 2-4 times in the last 14 years and I even has to change my card information several times, because our card information was exposed. I refuse to give sony any of my pc information with their spyware. If you want me to play on playstation, then keep your games on Playstation. I am tired of being hacked.
Peak players is also the amount of people playing at the same time, I see a lot of people thinking that its meant as the amount of people who played the game period
I refuse. Sony can be as stubborn as they want, but I can guarantee you, I am more stubborn. I have spent years ignoring Sony and Playstation games, I can spend more years ignoring them just like I did prior.
@@Sorain1 Too true. I can happily save my money until they figure out PC playerbase doesn't want to sign up for their psn accounts. xD I'm good, I'll pass on all that.
You know, the thing Sony isn't understanding about us pc gamers, is that we don't bow down to this shit and we have more convenient options. If a singleplayer game like this requires PSN linking, then someone will crack the game, remove that part and the rest of us will pirate it. Sony is just allergic to money.
I will not make a extra account for Sony. I love helldivers, but I can live without it. And for their other games.... The SEAS are a place to SAIL, so grab that old dusty hat....
Wow, Sony is walking away from a huge sector. What they fail to realize is that PC Gamers will never switch to PS or PSN. Them thinking they have command in this market is absurd.
The protection of players safety is not SONY’s responsibility as a whole. If we give them our data through PSN accounts then they are required to keep that data safe and secure, but if we decide not to use their protection, then it is our responsibility to protect what is ours, whether it be in their games or not. They simply cannot decide to control that if players refuse. They are not our parents here.
The issue is that share-holder rarely if ever actually know what the target audience wants and or likes when it comes to game studios. We've seen this with multiple other studios recently as well. Either that or shareholders are purposely driving down share prices to scare smaller investors into selling so they can by more shares and hold a larger voting power in the company. Unlike Steam/Valve which has had pretty much banger after banger when releasing games of hardware (yes they have had a few hiccups) simply because its a private company that knows what their target audience wants because its made up of the target audience and not old rich people looking to make more money.
I also blacklisted Sony on Steam so none of their games will come up in my recommended list. They got me for the $60 Super Citizen bundle, that's all they'll ever get out of me again.
Trying to get sony to understand anything is like trying to teach worm what its reflection looks like, it dosent work. They dont care and they never will and even if we manage to get them to fuck off again they'll just try again in a few months when the drama has died down. Their going to keep doing this until they get what they want
SONY'S CEO doubles down on wanting full control of Playstation games, keeping PSN requirements and restrictions in place "for safety."
Yeah...right.
►PCGamer PSN Account Article:
t.ly/wrik7
►GameRant Helldivers CEO Admits Article:
t.ly/MdkMh
►Paul Tassi/FORBES Article PSN Accounts Article:
t.ly/Yuhmc
►PCGamer Ragnarok Refunds/Gamers Not Happy Article:
t.ly/CX3E6
►PlayStation Direct Website Seen In Video:
direct.playstation.com/en-us/games/catalog?s=onlineDate-desc
►PCGamer Sony Isn't Giving Up Article:
t.ly/8P0a6
►SONY Quarterly Statement
t.ly/VDeMi
►GamesRadar Concord Article
t.ly/05tzm
►Concord Cost Millions FORBES Article
t.ly/WKTDu
►SONY Past Data Breaches Article
t.ly/V4XP1
►WCCFTech SONY Record Quarterly Earnings Article
t.ly/kdf6o
►GamesRadar Inviting Pushback SONY Statement Article
t.ly/p19sd
discord.gg/RNeJA8cVqb
www.patreon.com/ltbuzzlitebeer
www.twitch.tv/ltbuzzlitebeer
www.youtube.com/@LtBuzzLitebeer
twitter.com/LtBuzzLitebeer
Official Buzz Merch - buzzs-boutique.creator-spring.com
the irony hits so hard
@@LtBuzzLitebeer i feel with the total failure of concord they have no grounds to demand psn accounts
Quit being such a baby and just play the damn game
the games are no longer the product, YOU are the product
My theory is Sony do this on purpose to stop releasing games on PC, by showing investors that games do not peform well on PC. And their games being released on PC was just push from investors in the first place.
Dear Sony,
Have you considered NOT making your customers your enemies?
Form Sony
Dear player
" Go fuck your self, and give us money"
They have an odd love for DEI.
Helldivers is in that pile of games they are not even considering to put in nominees for GOTY due to this what should be an irrelevant bias.
dont like it leave.. have you tried that? instead of fake virtue signalling like you are doing?
Sony: "sorry chief, best I can do is remake TloU a fourth time!"
Customers are a barrier between their wallets and Sony. That's how Sony sees you.
Sony “We want your personal data to sell for more money, and allow to be stolen during record breaking data breaches” there now it is translated properly.
Well they also want to inflate their numbers for investors.
Remember what anonymous did😂
Every Xbox, EA, Ubisoft, Activision game needs an account stop acting like those don't ever get data breaches
@@VenomVendue yeah but data breaches havent been as common as they have been now thats the problem
@@ChronoMoth Are you trying to say that Sony is the only one who has data breaches? If you are that's ridiculous Microsoft and other tech companies has just as many if not more then Sony. Quit acting like data breaches are somehow new and only affect Sony.
When I'm in a sabotaging success competition and my opponent is Sony
yeah.and? it didn't seem like you finished your sentence there.
@@gpheonix1 "yeah, and?" is one sentence. You also capitalize the first letter of every sentence.
When im in a "getting upset at jokes that dont effect me" competition and my opponent is @gpheonix1
fr, see what they do their Marvel IP... that's free money if you just let Disney use them, but no they have to do it themselves and we get the literal worst shit imaginable.
@@gpheonix1 do your weekend homework lil bro
"You will own nothing and be happy." That perfectly sums up what Sony is attempting. The best way to combat this is to stop supporting Sony altogether.
PC gamers don't and will NEVER need Sony's protection. Their exlusives aren't that special.
*aren't
Ironically they own everything they need and still aren’t happy.
Well you look at their history Sony has always been a greedy company Even the guy who made it his whole goal was to create technology that people could buy easy but as soon he got his first success that went out the door and money became his new master
Ive only gotten one Sony exclusive, and that wa shelldivers cause I wanted to play with my friends. Other than Helldivers 2, FUCK SONY
@@lml55People who have to correct spelling are pathetic.
I am a diver from the philippines 250+ hours in the game, a few warbonds under my belt, and fun experience I had with all those divers old and new I helped.
I wont sign up for their bull banning everyone in my country from playing it who would gladly give it to them, and repeatedly trying to sell a “safety” that isnt worth shit from how many times its been breached. If this goes through I will not play, simple as that because they can kiss my black and yellow behind
Are you a fuckin bumblebee?
Your explanation of where you're from at the start made me confused at the ending statement, I thought you meant you were severely bruised for a second but it's our armor colors LOL
@@ogserpents5426 yellow jacket I figure...too aggressive to be a bee.
@@codeninja1 ah you’re right there, my bad
I’m going to say everything online can be breached nothing is safe on the web
Did sony think we forgot the 200 countries that still can't play since this happened the first time
It doesn't make sense from a buissnes perspective...
I don't think there's 200 plus countrys on earth
@@cloaker1619 there's 195, which is close enough to round up and say "200"
@@Snaic even tho you are right with the overall number of countries it still ist not 200 countires, or 195 countries who cant play.
70 or so can and any other country where it was sold still can play if they have the game bought and not given back. You only can't buy the games there anymore
@alphatito868 It's unplayable in ~170 countries because those countries don't have access to PSN services. The original comment was rounding up to 200 countries from 170. It's still unplayable in the majority of the world, which is not cool.
Inside the game: trying to eliminate the Automatons and keep the Terminids under control.
Outside the game: trying to eliminate Sony and keep Arrowhead under control.
Groundbreaking levels of immersion.
Arrowhead and their army of toxic positivity. Only a managed, democratic mind can break through!
And also exercizing democracy to keep woke people at bay, is a neverending battle
The 4th wall is broken completely lol
arrowhead should rename the new enemy faction to the YNOS .. instead of the illuminant or what ever
Are Sony the Automatons (inhuman executives) and Arrowhead the bugs (they keep introducing new ones lol)?
When they demand PSN account linking on single player games, the narrative of ensuring player safety falls flat on its face.
I wouldn't doubt they got butt hurt by steam😂
@@Yokyle4356what steam do?
@@badgoat6926actually be a decent and secure company that has a history of not screwing over people
@@badgoat6926It prevents sale of Helldivers in regions where you can't make a psn account
@@badgoat6926 Steam refunded a bunch of players out of their own pocket (so to speak) and called Sony out on how bullshit a move Sony made because the PSN linking demand cut out several entire countries and made HD2 unplayable for people in those countries who were previously able to play the game?
Aside from that, idk. Maybe just not suck megabutt?
I want to thank Sony executives. They have saved me money by preventing me from buying their shit games. I feel so safe.
Thank you Sony!
A friend of mine was thinking of buying a PS4, but he mistaken and said “sorry, I meant PS5.” I said to him, “There is no differences. Only PS5 is evolving backwards.” Then I told him, “are you going to buy a PS5?” He said no and that he is going to buy a PC instead. I said, “good choice, PS5 isn’t worth shit.” I own a PS5 by the way, and all this years of experience having a big piece of dog shit in my house aren’t fun.
This has never been a "safety" issue for Sony. It's always been a numbers issue - Sony has seen the absolutely gargantuan market that Steam has, and wants their fingers in the pie. Sony's track record with "safety" has, at best, been tepid, and at worst been straight up GARBAGE with major data breaches at least once a year, sometimes more.
In what way is it "unsafe" to play without a PSN. In all my years of gaming I've never felt unsafe without my PSN account.
Sony wants to mine data from the devices connected to it and sell it to advertisers for big money.
Unsafe for their profits more like it. Like @renmcmanus said, they just want power over people who bought a product/service.
Or hear me out, do like every other games do and ban your game account. They really don't need PSN.
Sony just doesnt get it, because they care more about the investors than the consumer.
...by blocking over 100 countries. They are losing money and consumers. They are pro-investor as much as they seem to be anti-consumer.
everything
I don't think they saw the part where PC players stopped playing immediately after it happened the last time. It will happen again.
they didnt.. thats the thing. it was all virtue signalling.. player count dropped due to how content revolved and a change in nerfs. its all fake outrage to hate..
@@denhawken You are wrong. Of the people I know who play the game, a full third left when the PSN linking thing happened, and only half of those came back when they reversed the decision.
@crosshairs007 negative... keep dreaming. It was in the decline b4. The others that left in solidarity came back with kn a week.
This has been going on for months. You've accomplished nothing on the fake virtue signaling of psn.
All hd2 did was rework weapons and players come back in droves.
Again don't like it leave. Your sjw karen bs exposed yourself.
Prove it.. but you won't because you love crydiving.
@@crosshairs007 he's a hate baiter to increase his fortnite channel exposure, ez
@@gigahertz7352 I have 600 hours in HD2 and absolutely love the game. If they force millions to help them with their spreadsheet, I will ask for a refund. What are we not safe from in a 4 player PVE game?
Arrowhead needs to buy the rights to Helldivers and split. It's the only way this can end peacefully now. Sony isn't the type to give up. They called out Anonymous, didn't immediately back down, got their servers shut down, tried to hide that fact from the public, and paid dearly for that idiocy. Every studio under their control needs to do this.
The problem with that is that you need them to agree, and even if they pay them, they now need servers, which they don't have, and keep them running, as well as have enough money to pay the devs.
This could be great, but also the worst decision for indi studios. They could very well just go bankrupt with that.
ahh fake outrage.. sony did nothing... yall cried.. thought you won.. sony never changed ...
as for anonymous shutting down servers.. they were the thiefs not sony.. same people that hacked arrowhead. seems like sony is the only one to stand up to the crydivers and pirates.
@@Malou4000 Not entirely. Yes, they'll need to agree to selling rights, Arrowhead can easily split still without Helldivers and make a new IP that is similar to Helldivers.
Servers are a non-issue. Helldivers 2, and most games today honestly, are Peer 2 Peer, meaning that the game environment is built on Player A (Host) computer, while Players B, C, and D are in that sandbox. SOME stuff will require servers, but not as much as you think. At most, they'd need servers to store things like account information.
And going bankrupt is a risk, but shuttering would happen no matter what. Remember, Firewalk got closed down by Sony recently, and there's rumors Sony might be about to acquire Bungie's talent and close them down.
With the current support around Arrowhead, there's a good chance that if they split, the community would continue to follow them. Hell, they might even win favor from the 170 countries still banned if they split and let them back in. As long as they don't go pulling a Pete Parson, I'm pretty confident Arrowhead could split and stay afloat long enough to get back on their feet.
Would be wild if they switched to Xbox servers lol
I absolutely agree, but I wonder if Arrowhead even has the funds for that? I mean, Sony is a billion dollar company. I doubt they would wanna give up their top money maker, especially after the whole Concord fuckup.
Remember, if purchase is not ownership - piracy is not theft!
sorry but to inform pirate bay surfers - that rationality will not work in court anymore....
it may have worked as late as the 00's (except according to Bill Gates of course, as per his 'letter to everyone') but in court now, they don't ask if you "made a copy but didnt take away from anyone" (The Pirate Anthem); they will ask you in court "did you experience the content"....
(and of course they already know you did and will show that evidence in the court)
games now are being treated more akin to a music concert or attending an art gallery...you have to PAY to 'see' and 'hear' the content within; you dont pay, you dont get 'the experience'.
so, if you did not legally pay for entrance, then you are illegally experiencing the content within - yes, even if you 'copied but did not take away from anyone' etc. it's covered partially in this whole companies-all-battling-to-have-their-own-private-and-trackable-LAUNCHERS (client servers) but also just stands alone as a new way courts are handling taking in people for piracy, for the last while.
buying a game = buying a license, not the game ip itself, at all (now, fully understood)
car manufacturers vs owners are going through the same thing (even calling it "right to repair" like computer owners did/are) where as a vehicle owner you won't be allowed to repair the car yourself soon...
Typical corporate hubris.
Nokia laughed at Apple, Kodak and Fujifilm laughed at Sony and Epson, ArianeGroup called re-usability a pipe dream, and so many more.
Executives at the top of their game, leading not just companies but industries often develop a feeling of knowing what's to know. They don't see the writing on the wall or dismiss it.
I hope Arrowhead finds enough success to go independent.
Sony would NEVER allow it. The reason they have so many exclusive smaller studios is because they literally threaten them with not allowing the product to be sold on sony consoles unless they agree to be exclusive. It's never been about money, but power. Sony are what I call Bushido Businessmen and are some of the last there are because that business attitude simply doesnt work anymore and alienates customers
@twoshieldsandsomemilk "will bushido allow it?"
@@twoshieldsandsomemilk Sony can go throw a temper tantrum then, Arrowhead has proven they know what they're doing. somewhat.
My grudge towards AH still isnt gone, but the games they've made ARE good. That I cant deny. So I'll stay on their side in the AH vs Sony fight
@@shoulderpyro Completely agree, but Sony ultimately has them by the throat on this. All they can do is ask us to make our voices heard
@@twoshieldsandsomemilk And we shall. If theres one thing every faction within Helldivers is united in, its that Sony's a common enemy.
..if anything it'd be the perfect "Never thought I'd fight side by side with a " Gimli/Legolas meme format. Loyalist and Chaos united again as one at long last
Just got lvl 133, over 600 hours of playing, I'll never turn the game on again if they mandate this nonsense
"It's for your safety"
Sony tryna roleplay as the SEAF
Got 150 yesterday... I was thinking about making a break after that - guess, it will last for longer than I expected)
They never said they wouldnt not require it. It was you hype drinkers who lied about what sony and AH said. Congrats, you played yourselves. Now go cry till you play yourselves again.
Im just skipping Sony games that require PSN account, i've skipped all games that require additional launchers.
@@MrSteelface96 SM2, no additional launcher needed. No linking account needed. If you make an account you get a shoulder option but it is not needed.
wasnt the whole PSN thing months ago? they removed it
Their "safety" is because they're facing failure after failure. Their leadership is getting embarrassed so often that they're feeling like they have to save some face. There is no "safety" they can offer.
they had major data leaks too
in 2016 they had a massive one and they only notified the employees like 2 years ago
Sadly, this is Japanesse culture. Their image is way more important for them then it is for anybody in the rest of the world.
I call absolute bullshit on this “safety” excuse
@mj533 those who are willing to give up freedom for safety deserve neither and will loose both
@irondill4546
Especially with the disgraceful and disgusting Yasukuni Shrine. It is unfortunate that post-WW2 Japan has forgotten it's crimes by it's leaders.
The worst thing about creating PSN account is that it isn't just your name, phone and email. Your address and even a picture of your ID with that address is required to create a PSN account in some regions.
Do you really want to handover that much personal data to Sony, a company known for multiple data breaches?
As someone who has a PSN account, my advise to PC players is that you'll be more safe without a PSN account
The Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster literally has a log in welcome page worded in such a way that you can skip the psn login on pc but only has login and quit game options even telling you that linking grants you bonus items. After you log in, there is an option to un-link psn on the main menu! This tells me Sony literally forced psn use on the devs.
Sony: *has the worst track record of leaks and hacks*
Also Sony: "You MUST link to PSN, for your safety!"
Guess it's time for another round of review-bombing. Not just on Helldivers though. On EVERY "ported" or "remastered" Sony game on steam.
lol fake news and virtue signalling by crydivers. dont like it leave. prove to me you are sincere in your actions.
@@denhawken oh the Fortnite Big Streamer dilulu at it again
@@denhawken haha. Nice joke. Now face the wall traitor
@denhawken ok. I haven't reinstalled Helldivers 2 on steam since SONY region locked the game.
Any Helldivers gameplay I take part in is on my mate's PS5 every couple of weeks when he cycles in from his work in the coalfields.
I won't be reinstalling Helldivers 2 on steam until the region lock is lifted.
Arrowhead have received my money. If I never play the game again on Steam, so be it. SONY will not be getting my business. If I wanted a PSN account I would buy a PS5.
Not a crydiver. I'm a Helldiver that refuses to dive (on PC) until the brothers and sisters that have been denied the game are brought back into the game.
I understand what it is to commit to a cause. I'm a Union rep.
@@gigahertz7352 I'll be glad when children are banned off of social media next year (in Australia, where I live). Less of these fortnight kids thinking they know anything about gaming cluttering up the comments sections.
Every time without fail, corporate greed sickens and muddles the true joy of gaming. We helldivers will NEVER bow to Sony...
so true
For democracy
It's a free account. They don't make money from you linking your PSN and Steam doesn't share any personal information when you link an account. The only info they give Sony when you link your PSN is your Steam name and Proof that the game was purchased. That's it.
@@GoodBoyGoneDad while that may be a point..to politely say. Have you not seen that crap Sony as gone through with there system servers hard going down getting hacked again SEVERAL times. Yeah no reason people don't want a psn account.
@@GoodBoyGoneDadthey can sell your information to investors that’s why they want it not for so called “safety”
"Offering" implies Optional, a choice. THE PSN accounts are not offers, they are demands.
That community dev that lost his job, Spitz, is an absolute idiot. You shouldn't defend that guy. He was saying he was "Owning the chuds" by telling them they were too stupid to take 2 minutes to make a PSN account. We got screenshots to prove it. You lose credibility when you say stuff like that.
Didn't he walk that back and actually state that he wasn't aware that he didn't know not all people and/or countries could make these accounts. It might just be corporate PR wrangling, but still.
He walked that back and apologized for the ignorance. He also got fired for speaking out in favor of the protest.
Wrong as his initial statement and actions were, he did realize and switch sides costing his job. He righted the wrong. You refuse to acknowledge that. Worrying about losing credibility to you is not something I'd care that much over.
@@negan2714 i personally refuse to believe that Spitz's walkback and apology is genuine, because "owning the chuds" has been his modus operandi for the whole time he was a manager. People had legit concerns about the state of the game, servers and some weapons being straight up useless, and instead of addressing concerns or directing them to a proper channel, he timed people out, banned people, and was just genuinely THE worst case of a power-tripping mod i've ever witnessed.
more than that, it took him something like 6 hours to figure out why community was on fire(the very same community he was supposed to manage). Legitimately the only good community manager at the time was Twinbeard, and i was feeling for the guy that day, because he got saddled with managing a dumpsterfire with a team of dipshits for the entire weekend
From 450k players to 45k. Oh how the mighty have fallen. #WEDIVETOGETHERORWEDONTDIVE
Sony is still funded by Black Rock, so they cant back down. Still learning? My ass.
Are they really? That would explain so heckin much!
@@TheBigHA nah, it doesn't explain anything at all. why they took this game from 180 regions then if Black Rock owns them? This doesn't make nay sense bro
You do realize this means AH is also controlled by Black Rock right? Why do you think sony met with AH in person? Dont need the black rock plan leaked in writing.
It Is called lobby
Indeed.
That's funny. I just doubled down on not buying Sony products. 🤔 What a coincidence.
Same here
Then you'll buy another game from a greedy corporation. Hell, you buy products from corporations all the time, I think you will be ok😂😂
@@DZA3051yeah, you would think it only requires a new game to lure one back to a garbage company?
You would be wrong for allot of people.
Some people will never learn and will continue to get burned and feed the dealers of bad stuff, I agree, but do not think we can not learn the names of the ones to avoid, crack, cocaine, blizzard and sony. ;)
@jerryandersson4873 is funny they love the gaslighting, use as a mechanism to insult us for their insecurity.
But the reality is More and More people will stop buying bad products eventually, EA, BLIZZARD, UBISOFT, Microsoft and soon soney will be next if they keep going the same momentum.
We are gamers not your monopoly consumer puppet, once the Korea and China gaming industry catch up it be over for them.
@@DZA3051LOL. Must be another stupid stockholmed console slave who know nothing about the vibrant pc market. And we have lots of dev that are non douchebag and doesn't treat us like idiots, you moronic sony simp
They just don't get it. PC gamers don't want 100 different launchers from 100 different companies all trying to leverage your personal data and gaming habits.
THIS!
This right here.
Its not only with Games...This corporate greed for personal information is everywhere!! Just bought a new phone and it is unbelievable how they fight and harass you for every byte of your personal data!
Right. They only want 99. 99 different launchers is perfectly fine, but MY GOD let's draw the line on # 100 just because it's Sony and we have some bizarre anti-Sony obsession.
@@spambaitpro PC gamers having standards is not some anti-Sony conspiracy.
@@spambaitpro I built the PC myself, this is not a Playstation. They dont get to tell me what to do with it. Sony can stay in their f*cking lane.
Honestly Sony does not deserve Arrowhead and Helldivers 2.
They're too good for Sony
Talk about giving piracy the biggest advertisement ever.
I had a PSN account, and a Playstation 2. Then there was a data breach, and they wanted me to pay for a account to play a game I already punched to get online. I canceled my PSN account, and went to PC.
I have NO internation of going back.
it's simple for me - if i need PSN account to play HD2 than my hard drive is getting 80gb of free space.
this ^
This isn't about player security, this is about statistics for their earnings calls.
Just as an FYI the community manager in question that told everyone to refund HD2, was making fun of PC players for not wanting to link their accounts, they were not a hero, they were a bully and was justly fired
I already removed any game that was in anyway related to Sony from all my wish or watch lists. I'll just pirate anything that I'm halfway interested in from them for the rest of my life.
New plan, we keep the negative Reviews until there is no more plans on PSN AND no more blocked countries. We keep it negative until both demands have been met.
Edit: If Sony doubles down, we'll just have to double down twice as hard helldivers. No more getting fooled. Leave the reviews. State the demands and don't be fooled by their messages! Let their actions speak for themselves.
"Affirmative"
I never changed my original negative review. It stays up until the 177 countries and territories are liberated and this PSN nonsense is done with.
@@panachevitzSAME
@@panachevitzsame as well. Still have not played nor installed the game since the banning of those countries. In before “BuT ThOsE wHo BoUgHt ThE gAmE cAn StIlL PlAy!!!111” that’s not the point. They banned the countries because they do not support PSN there… if a PSN account is no longer needed then why STILL ban the countries?
@@panachevitz Same for me, still negative since the initial debacle
Maybe this is why we never got that cape..
It's because we didn't win yet... prepare yourself to strike brother, the fight isn't over, it's just the beginning
This is exactly why we never got it. It was teased out to cull our aggression and then occasionally snippets brought up to keep us docile about it.
Words from liars and schemers are worthless
DUUUUHHHHH!!!! YA'll NEVER WONDERED WHY WE NEVER GOT THE CAPE!? IT'S CUZ IT WAS NEVER SETTLED. BUT FOR SOME REASON YA'll GAVE UP THE BOYCOTT CUZ "THEY SAID SO". Ya'll are the sad definition of gullible losers.
Oh god. Us Minecrafters lost the rights to our own capes because more radical Minecrafters sucked the joy out of it by stalking Mojang’s women.
You don't play with mods to delete the cape??? Better to see.
Its genuinely impressive, GENUINELY IMPRESSIVE how in the clouds executive head's heads are. They see one single projection of "but we could have THIS much money" and drive their golden goose to death and beyond trying to reach it. The utter lack of awareness is baffling. Just sit back and rake in the millions this game is making you rather than nuking your profits throwing a tantrum over that tiny little bit of extra cheddar you're not making.
Shareholders are the worst. People who don't give a shit about the end product being able to vote on the direction the company goes is a terrible idea, and it sure seems like they only ever vote on the quick easy buck, it's no wonder stupidity like this happens.
Making a PSN account is definitely not for your "safety," considering you're about 100x more likely to have your data breached under the watchful eye of Sony.
This isn’t because of safety, Sony is doing so bad they need to boost their players database by any means necessary. They really think people are that invested in helldivers will take this. But we are talking about a fandom that can rally people around and get shit done. The only way to show corpos they are NOT in control is by simply spreading awareness about Sony and making people NOT play helldivers until the CEO sucks his pride up and does something good for once
They really shot themselves in the foot with that one. The HD2 server capacity was upgraded to 700k players at one point... 😢
I don't get them. It's like loading a glock trying to play russian roulette ...
Deleted Helldivers 2 the day that Sony wanted to add the PSN requirement. Won't buy anything from Sony anymore. Was part of the data breach back in the day and it was a f'ing nightmare. So long Sony
Bye then 😂
Laughing emojis like you wouldn't be at risk with how often sony has these data breaches. Cant wait for that "Bye 😂" to turn into "My credit cards keep getting charged after my ps account info was leaked" @@k2error86
why delete? just get some crack or otherwise removal of drm, i am sure there was already some by that point. refund then use pirate copy - aka have a cake and eat the cake at same time.
I quit playing after May. Kept HD2 in my library hoping against hope that they’d rescind the country delistings and remove the requirement. Now I’m largely just disappointed that I’ll never get to play the sequel of Death Stranding. Was really looking forward to that game.
Sony's like our abusive stepfather. Beat on us and always promise to never do it again.
No Sony wouldn't promised
Sony hurts us because they love us (proceeds to get hit) No Sony Nooooooooo!
@@Rowdy_Raider 🤣 🤣 🤣
Clearly ya'll never actually dealt with abuse cuz if you had you would've quit months ago.
@@reaper_exd7498 Do you know how abusing relationships work? And if you do then you should know why your comment is wrong.
I swear Sony and Disney are having a competition to see how many franchise's they can destroy before the fans of the franchise's decide to go full Adolf Hitler on their clown arses
Open the helldivers: war with bugs and bots
Close the helldivers: war with sony and sometimes with developers
Sony needs to understand who's in charge here. I have a plethora of companies trying to get me to play their games. You either make your product customer friendly or I walk. I do not trust Sony with my data nor do I need them to protect me. I literally do not play/own any Sony products save for Helldivers. If they force PSN link, Im retiring. Back down or be prepared to lose money Sony.
Now do the same for Ubisoft and Microsoft's games if you're so inclined to not trust companies with your data. Sony isnt the only one who has had data breaches in the past.
@@gamingcantina9157 sadly we live in a time where we must pick our demons because literally everyone does this even now in this vary website google makes it there BUISNESS to collect and sell your data along with making advertisement on the side. Some demons we simply cant run from
@@gamingcantina9157great Another person who overlooks why people don’t trust Sony. Yes, all kinds of companies can or have been breached, but when Sony faces multiple breaches and some on actual company management levels that’s when we don’t trust them. Plus, in Helldivers 2 they didn’t have the requirement of an account on the steam store page, nor did they force it day one.
Sony does understand. They saw that most of the sheep they cared about stayed in the pen after one well-worded apology and figured that’d give them plenty of people willing to just accept this once the game improved and enough time had passed.
And they’re probably right.
@@OneBiasedOpinion They are right indeed. It's been 6 months and the game is still not available in most countries and yet majority of players just stopped caring because Sony apologized and so they think that they've 'won'. I've browsed some posts on Reddit and most people already just don't care that it is banned in other countries as long as it doesn't directly affect them, they became content with it and Sony is well aware of that.
I am never buying a Sony game again. I don’t pirate games. But I will never criticize those who do to make sure Sony doesn’t see a dime.
When I have the money to do so I’m going to look into buying a proper computer because I’m tired of the BS
we dindt ask sony really dosent care
@@gamerbeast3616 meatriding sony wont make your life better
@@Broomer52
So your going to pirate or be upset when sony pulls all their games from steam?
Also remember you don't own your games on steam
@@SRW_ There's many more games then just Sony games.
You would think with the amount of F's sony has had this year they would have learn to stop doing things like this by now
They just had a bunch of Ws to balance it out
A Japanese company, LEARN? *Looks at Nintendo* 😂😂😂
Get real. They are correct, everyone else is wrong. That's Japanese businessMEN for you.
@@thememedungeonkeeper Ill never forgive the Japanese!!! - JoJo
@@thememedungeonkeeper True
Um they still double down making games that is full woke, gay, trans, no strong white male bla bla bla
Sony Japan are pretty well known for being extremely stubborn. In this case their stubbornness is hurting the customers.
I did not do it for Helldivers 2 I will NOT set up an account for any Sony Games PERIOD!
Reinstalled Helldivers 2 about a week ago thinking I'd get back in FORGET IT, Screw OFF SONY!
Sony Brand Games just made it to the IGNORE LIST, MY WALLET IS CLOSED!!!
I will NEVER sign up a PSN account, PERIOD.
Yeah that is what every steam user said when steam started lol.
we dindt ask you just crying because its sony
@@DracoOoOoOosteam always needed an account if I recall to keep library's in general. But steam has yet to have breaches where sony has had a breach every 4-5 years
@@dylansmith6078 sony has minor breeches almost every month
@LeroxYT i was only talking the big ones lol
I don't understand the stance of "player protection" i have been on a few random drops and for thr most part everyone is quiet. If I don't like what is going on i bail. If I am the one running the squad and someone is toxic i would kick them. Would, I never have had the need. I don't understand their stance.
That's because they're lying. They don't give a shit about protecting players or users. They just want justification to force more aggressive data collection and to fluff their PSN user numbers up for investors.
It's not about "player protection." It's about artificially boosting their stupid psn numbers. That's all they care about. They're stupid like that.
When the government says “it’s for your safety” it’s almost always about control and surveillance. This isn’t any different.
@@spectralassassin6030 Yep and IMO this shouldn't be legal, it's fake numbers to bloat stats for shareholder calls.... it's effectively a type of fraud.
Its a shallow explanation that pleases both the "modern audience" conscious investors and opens covers their asses with a plausible reason for doing so that is not the farming of user data
Pretty bold coming from from Sony being unsafe when said company keeps getting hacked.
bro. back in the day their PSN was down for like 5 or 6 days straight, no one could get on or play AT ALL - and in that time a special forces unit when in and killed Bin Laden.
and in my head canon it was BECAUSE they couldn't get online and someone linked the attack to Bin Laden.
Name a company that hasn't had a data breech ?
@@ssjmonstar I have a better challenge: name a company that has had more data breaches than Sony.
There won't be very many, if any at all.
I don't get how hard it is to just make the PSN requirement optional, but provide some sort of incentive for signing up.
I know they're trying to juice the numbers because it looks good to investors, but I'd think getting a crapload of extra sales would look better. Why lock so many countries out of spending money on your product?
Sony: You are going to sign up for a PSN account.
PC players: HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLD MAN?
"Unsafe" is just a way for them to say "control".
I play on Playstation and I actually uninstalled the game back when the suits tried this before.
I've already boycotted Ubi and Activision, so adding Sony to the list won't be that big of a deal.
"Won't be that big of a deal"
At the same time that list of companies you gotta boycott keeps growing. If we aren't careful someday we won't have an alternative to turn to
@@TheBigHA If this is what gaming has come to then we dont need an alternative, fuck these greedy corporate asshats let them wither away into bankruptcy
Their exclusives mostly suck now anyway.
Cool story. DSS is gonna be a big flop anyways.
@@reaper_exd7498 what's dss some kind of anti cheat. Oh it's the space weapon I'm less consistent of late.
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?!!!!
I come here because of you facts not just rant.. that work you do is sooo appreciated
what ever narrative sony wants to try and spin, we all know in the end this is all about corporate greed, more player feedback from a different platform, a few more emails to advertise too, usernames, phone numbers. more pockets with revenue. its all about the money. the EAAASIEST way to do that for this game, is port to xbox collect the profits from the port and just be happy with boosting the player base by 30%. 800 hours logged i happily dive to lower difficulties stock up on super credits, test weapon loadouts etc. but i also like helping lower level players learn how to fight and win while having fun.
as per arrowhead that is...
JUST BUFF THE EFFING SLUGGER ALREADY!
Fine. If they want me to get a PSN a/c, the answer is no. In which case, give me my fkg money back. Then we'll see how strong that stance is.
We need to collectively sue them for refunds and for making us register PSN, though they say "they offer" (it's already a big fine for lying in media)
If Sony ever dares to try and make a sequel to the PSN incident they will meet the full fury of the Helldivers until they truly learn their lesson.
Unlikely. They know their consumers are loath to let go of so much progress and they’ve waited this long specifically to ensure they net a lot of long-time players with a lot of time and earnings in the game. Boycotts won’t matter this time now that they know it takes very little to change our minds. The chance to “teach them a lesson” was back in May and the community threw it away.
*Socialize* the games industry
- MORE unions against giant corporate publishers
- MORE independent studios - owned by workers not shareholders.
- MORE consumer protections, FOSS and public owned alternatives.
I personally love indie studios, they do drop the odd diamond or two every so often… it’s also less driven by the political atmosphere that has gobbled up the mainstream industry.
So I approve of your message!
Idk how sony and other video game companies can do stuff like this and STILL have people buying stuff from them + defending them
This is why we can’t have nice things… Review Bomb 2.0 inbound
Review 3.0 actually because the nerfdiver part
prepare your 500kg review bomb brother
Should never cease in the first place.
My negative review is right where I left it back in May. Y’all should have done the same, because now it just looks even more pathetic when what’s left of the community does the same thing a second time after realizing they were played like chumps the first time.
If they start "enforcing" that. I will insist a refund after 470 hours.
If/when you do, make sure to emphasize to steam, that the product you bought, is no longer what is present on their platform.
We dive together.
Or not at all.
Nah.. I'd Dive 👊
@@MaelStooorm We dive united or die divided brother but hey, it's your funeral.
@@Dillon1099 that's right brother, there are more deeds to be done for the emperor instead.
Where was this chant for the past 5+ months? It’s funny how it only matters now that the mask is removed once more, because after the first boycott everyone celebrated and promptly forgot about that slogan, despite the fact that there were still a whole bunch of us who still couldn’t dive. 🤔
If they mandate such a thing, then they can just forget about the PC market
hey, As an old Sony fanboy, I know Sony has been hacked like 2-4 times in the last 14 years and I even has to change my card information several times, because our card information was exposed. I refuse to give sony any of my pc information with their spyware. If you want me to play on playstation, then keep your games on Playstation. I am tired of being hacked.
This is why I left my review for the game negative and often check it to ensure it doesn’t get deleted.
It's not much but it's honest work :D
Same. Kinda unreasonably proud to be one of the few who didn’t yield.
I love how they say if we want to use their servers.....ughhh sir? that's why we BUY the game, we pay MONEY
How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!
Next up from PS, you must have an active PS+ account to continue to play. The whole reason why PC gamers avoid consoles.
It almost like once game companies get so big they get lazy, stupid, & hell bent on enraging the player base
SONY is getting allergic to money again
Is it just me, or do the numbers of copies sold and peak players are a little bit sus?!
Not really because it didn’t get popular till almost a month after release
@@Robertthachickenwrangler It was plenty popular on release; The issue was the servers couldn't handle the vast number of players for nearly 2 weeks.
Peak players is only the steam numbers. The total sales is based on PS AND steam.
Peak players is also the amount of people playing at the same time, I see a lot of people thinking that its meant as the amount of people who played the game period
@@alphaxbox3728 Well or either Buzz made the mistake of talking about steam only with those numbers, or he is right...
Why can’t they just let people be and enjoy the game without being greedy bro like dang
Literally any real gamer could have told them concord was a dumpster fire.
Helldivers 2 showed me that I should get comfortable not owning Playstation games on PC.
“How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, OLD MAN?!”
That last tin foil hat theory IS outlandish and yet I can so very easily see Sony trying something that harebrained
Never underestimate corporate greed and the stupid decisions they make when trying to earn more money.
@roli1227 Agreed. As I say, probably not, but I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled some horse piss like that either.
I refuse. Sony can be as stubborn as they want, but I can guarantee you, I am more stubborn. I have spent years ignoring Sony and Playstation games, I can spend more years ignoring them just like I did prior.
You go girl
@@funkDr1 hell ya sister with a mister.
Players can stay stubborn longer than they can stay fiscally solvent.
@@Sorain1 Too true. I can happily save my money until they figure out PC playerbase doesn't want to sign up for their psn accounts. xD I'm good, I'll pass on all that.
@@AliasEnigmatic Sony seems to bring out your inner diva but seriously whats your reason for willingly ignoring the brand for years?
You know, the thing Sony isn't understanding about us pc gamers, is that we don't bow down to this shit and we have more convenient options. If a singleplayer game like this requires PSN linking, then someone will crack the game, remove that part and the rest of us will pirate it.
Sony is just allergic to money.
So how many people have had there information stolen because PSN was hacked again?
I will not make a extra account for Sony. I love helldivers, but I can live without it. And for their other games.... The SEAS are a place to SAIL, so grab that old dusty hat....
Pirating in the current times is morally correct.
Sony is really just the automatons trying to lower our numbers…all this drama is all meant for lore, trust🗣️🔥🔥🔥
skip to 11:08 for what the video is about... too much filler
Hero
Thank you
Not too much if you're out of the loop though
Thanks mate :)
You wouldn't survive a 64 episode show for their season one
If it was optional then I don't have an issue but twhen they make it mandatory and block 180 countries from buying the game is just Genius.
Wow, Sony is walking away from a huge sector. What they fail to realize is that PC Gamers will never switch to PS or PSN. Them thinking they have command in this market is absurd.
sony just doesn't get it, or they do, but they don't care. Probably the latter
I am never buying anything that Sony makes ever again.
cry about it
@@gamerbeast3616 No, my dude. I think you will. Can't have your favorite corporation not making every penny, now can you?
@@BIGESTblade he a sony ponies and they are the reason why sooo many country are blocked lol let laugh at him
@@RX-782Gundam I am aware.
The protection of players safety is not SONY’s responsibility as a whole. If we give them our data through PSN accounts then they are required to keep that data safe and secure, but if we decide not to use their protection, then it is our responsibility to protect what is ours, whether it be in their games or not. They simply cannot decide to control that if players refuse. They are not our parents here.
You see, they want to CONTROLL their games by making a SAFE environment for everyone playing. Something sounds sketchy, don't look at me.
The issue is that share-holder rarely if ever actually know what the target audience wants and or likes when it comes to game studios. We've seen this with multiple other studios recently as well. Either that or shareholders are purposely driving down share prices to scare smaller investors into selling so they can by more shares and hold a larger voting power in the company. Unlike Steam/Valve which has had pretty much banger after banger when releasing games of hardware (yes they have had a few hiccups) simply because its a private company that knows what their target audience wants because its made up of the target audience and not old rich people looking to make more money.
"we hear you, players!" *fires the guy that said he's on their side*
I haven't bought any Sony game since the HD2 debacle.
Same. Keep it up!
I also blacklisted Sony on Steam so none of their games will come up in my recommended list. They got me for the $60 Super Citizen bundle, that's all they'll ever get out of me again.
@@panachevitz good idea, thanks! yeah I'm going to do that too. I forgot you could blacklist specific devs/publishers - lol
A lot of the biggest companies in gaming have gone to shit
The answer is simple....show Sony how unprotected they are over and over and over again, until they finally unserstand.
Hackers have been doing this for years and still nothing
Trying to get sony to understand anything is like trying to teach worm what its reflection looks like, it dosent work. They dont care and they never will and even if we manage to get them to fuck off again they'll just try again in a few months when the drama has died down. Their going to keep doing this until they get what they want
Looks like it's back to Starship Troopers Extermination. Sony can go bankrupt, for all I care now.
EVERY time a company that prioritizes profit says "It's for your own good", never believe them.