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Hi. So all videos say “just line the track up with your marks” my track saw is being delivered today!! Super excited!! My question is, do you need to accommodate for the blade thickness when lining up your cut? I assume you do if you’re cutting on that side but honestly have never heard anyone mention it in the hundreds of track saw videos I fell victim to lol. Thanks!!!
@@731Woodworks feedback from other groups also provided me with the insight I was looking for. Thank you for your reply good sir I appreciate it. The answers were what I was kind of thinking. Anyhow, if you have the track on the finish side, you would line it right up with the marks. If you have it on the offcut side, you will need to accommodate for the kerf of the blade. I just got mine in the mail today and have a wainscoting project to do on Monday. Can’t wait to let her rip!!! I also ordered the dust cap off your affiliate site.
60 v. Flexvolt - 20 volt. Dewalt is actually protecting your tools by making the 60 v. Flexvolt battery different from the 20 volt, because the 20 volt battery doesn't have enough power to run the 60 volt tools like your tracksaw. The reason the 60 volt battery works on the 20 volt tools is that they are engineered to " Flexvolt" and they detect a 20 volt tool, then change to 20 volt power internally!
Yeah I was going to make this comment but you beat me to it. Kind of like if you had a 220v Table saw the cord is different so you can’t plug it in a 120v outlet.
And in Aus and NZ it's not called a 60volt it's a 54volt. Exactly the same motor, exactly the same battery power. America is like that mate that always says his dick is alot bigger than it actually is
Similar to some of their other tools requiring high torque, such as a grinder, this track saw only operates up to spec using the 60V battery. Consequently, DeWalt purposely made the tool connection such that it will only accept the 60V FlexVolts. Safety and performance wise, that makes total sense to me. As for tools that require lower torque values, it only makes sense they can accept any of the Dewalt batteries. This was an incredible review of 4 fine track saws. Owning multiple 60V Dewalt batteries already, my decision is easy to make, especially with the price of the Festool. I like to think that future 45 degree cuts can be done on my table saw, but otherwise I'll figure out where on that yellow thingy is the actual pointer indicator. (Human factor engineering anyone?) Thank you for an excellent review, now I feel confident in purchasing another yellow tool!
It's not just torque. It's all about power. 60 volts can deliver 3 times the power than 20 volts on same amps. That means a 60 volts motor can be about 3-5 times smaller and lighter than a 20 volts motor designed to deliver the same number of power.
I have a 15 year old corded DeWalt track saw that uses the same double-edged track. I've used the other side for 45° cuts-- one side 90°, one side 45°. Note that once you make a 45° cut, the rubber edge band is cut back and will no longer help to prevent tearout along the top edge of a 90° cut. Maybe not so weird once you realize the why of it.
Really good review! I think they on purposefully made it so you couldn’t put a 20V battery on. The flex system is compatible either way but the saw is 60V only so a 20V battery wouldn’t run the saw anyway. Also I think the plunge action may have something to do with the way they articulate the riving knife. But great overall review
That seems to be right as well. Maybe the plunging motion of the Dewalt allows them to have a riving knife that is fixed relative to the blade rather than the articulated one.
Exactly this. The reason the 20 volt batteries don't fit on is because of plastic nubs that protrude, these plastic bits change the flex volt battery from 20 to 60 volts. I know someone that thought they could get around buying a 60 volt battery and filed off those plastic bits, this rendered the saw inoperable with either battery
I've been using the Corded Dewalt Track Saw for 14 years or so. It has held up well and love it. Two sided track comes in handy for me pretty frequently. You can also get an 8 foot track so you don't have to join two tracks.
I bought this due to having pretty much all Dewalt stuff as well as some of the other 60V batteries (didn't know the smaller ones didn't fit because I just haven't tried them). As for the track, I bought the Dewalt track and promptly returned it because this saw *does* work on the Festool track! Since I cut quite a bit of +2" slabs the power has been the biggest advantage for me. Great review!
Question, why cordless if you still have a dust collection hose. So essentially still corded for dust collection. I don’t see why a cordless tracksaw unless I wanted to use it outside. But seems to me most of my cutting would be in my shop or I use my old circular saw outside.
I have the corded Dewalt tracksaw for 3 years, it's a great saw but joining the tracks is annoying and that it doesn't lock to the track for angled cuts. The depth adjustment isn't great either. I'm not sure if I would buy again. I did get 2 x 5ft tracks which are handy to split sheet goods down the middle in one pass. Excellent review indeed.
I bought this saw about 6 years ago (because I didn’t have budget for Festool :). Your review is spot on. Great saw. LOTS of power and I have used it extensively it has been rugged and dependable. Thanks
I have this saw and absolutely love it. I love the motion of plunge as it glides into the wood rather than pivoting into the wood. Ya this saw needs the 60V so a 20V won't work, not enough voltage, so Dewalt prevents the 20v from fitting. I am sure the low voltage might damage the motor. All the 60V tools in the live are like that, but cool you can use the batter down on a 20-volt tool. They do this through the connection pins so a 20v tool can use a 20-volt circuit in the 60v flex, but of course can't make a 60v battery out of a 20v battery. Nice review thanks!
Finally FINALLY!! A Dewalt review !!! I bought this saw even though you didn’t make a review on it.. all these years I been thinking it might be a bad purchase
DeWalt saw will work perfectly with Festool tracks. So you can pick up all the accessories that way. Also, if you remodel, the dual sides track can make some cuts more comfortable. Also, Benchdog makes a square rail for the DeWalt track
Can you explain which cuts would be more comfortable ? The track is symmetrical, and the saw is always going to cut to the right of the track when moving forward.
@@xl000 The one issue that can come up is if the waste side of the cut is not on the cut-off side the of the track. So for every tracksaw, as you're looking down (ready to cut) the waste side is always on the right. But there are times when the cut off side is to the left (under the track). This means you can't just line up the track and cut. You have to account for the kerf of the blade. There are jigs that do this (strawbyte kerf waste side jig). But with the dewalt, you can just fip the track and cut it. So every once in a while, it does come in handy. Also, if you do remodels, the track can save the day when there are things in the way and you have to cut to the left of the track.
@@hansangb I don' t get it. The track is symmetrical. Flipping it will change nothing. If the track is symmetrical, how could using one side differ from using the other one ?
@@xl000 OK, let me try again for the last time. Imagine you have a sheet of plywood with a good reference (perfectly straight) bottom edge (as you're looking down on it). Now you want to cut 90deg perfectly square cuts on LEFT and RIGHT Edge. The right edge is no problem because your square rail will reference of the bottom straight edge and since the off cut is to the right of the track you're good. No issues. What do you do about the left edge? The track can't reference the bottom anymore because your track can ONLY cut to the right of the track. To cut the left edge, you would have to cut from the top of the plywood. The problem is that the top is not yet parallel to the bottom reference edge. With Dewalt, track, you can just cut on the LEFT of the track while referencing the bottom of the plywood. In other words, your tracksaw can cut from the top of the sheet towards the bottom. While maintaining the reference edge on the bottom.
OHOO OOOH OOH ALSO for the double sided one, if you rip sheet goods a lot, but also hardwoods, and you use diff blades, you can have a diff side for each blade, so the rubber clearance strip is perfect for each blade!
Been waiting on this review before my track saw purchase one! Thanks for this review even though I’m a DeWalt fan think I’m going with the Milwaukee. Appreciate your videos looking forward to you doing some small builds for us in small shops! Thanks again God Bless
I've been using the flexvolt rear handle saw and the stud and joist drill for several years. These tools are the most powerful on the market and absolutely blast through any material they touch. They never bog down and take a beating from my crew, money well spent.
The nice thing about the DeWALT is it works on Festool guide rails. One of my favorite features of my Festool is the Bluetooth batteries. DeWALT is the only other option with wireless vac activation. The Milwaukee and Festool also have the offcut splinter guard which is very nice to have.
Great review ! I was looking at these for a anniversary gift for my wife ,she always lets me borrow all her toys so this would work out . However the non interchangeable battery is a deal killer . I didn’t pick that up when I was looking at the info . ,Thanks for the heads up Cheers
5:40 - one side for 90 degree, second side for example 45 degree.... 7:20 - harder for kickback Rpm changing when cutting materials like plastic or alluminum
As an owner of the corded version of the DeWalt, I agree with everything said in the video. Two extras to add to the conversation. First, two tracks will give you fits because the centered connection will shift on you on occasion and make your cuts go off. I spent for the long track instead. Second, this saw is based on the corded version and thus is not retooled for the more modern track saws like the recent Festool and Milwaukee. Also, the cut quality of the saw tends toward okay regardless of the blade. None of these are deal breakers, but I’m leaning more towards the Milwaukee for my cordless saw.
1 of the things I wish all of the tool companies would start considering when they designed tools is what if the person using it only has the uses of 1 hand. I had polio as a baby and only have 1 good arm. So I have to try and figure out ways to do tings that are so easy for others. Just like the problem you just locking the blade can you imagine doing it with 1 hand. Just a little food for thought
Thank you for this. I’ve been patiently waiting. It’s a great saw, but the lack of positive stops is pretty frustrating. I bought the dewalt router track saw adapter as well for being able to cut repeatable, accurate rabbits or dados also. It’s product number DWS5031. Adds a bit of versatility.
The problems I had with this saw is the distance between the adjustment nobs, the dust from the front of the cut , the distended between the top handle and the battery.. Talking about the adjusting nobs is that you need to have 150mm of track behind and 150 mm in the front of the cutting pice because otherwise you will cut in to the track.
Dewalt's flexvolt circular saw and the DCD 800 drill are the tools that got me back into the brand. Now I'm running red and yellow. Im not in the market for a track saw, but the lack of a positive stop would be a deal breaker, and thats the only issue I'd have with it.
I've always felt like an outlier myself, Matt, so I'll be one here. I've been woodworking for 30 years and I still don't see any purpose for owning a track saw. I guess if I were doing a lot of work on site, it's probably easier than using one of those little baby tablesaws. But the only possible use I can think of for my shop is crosscutting sheets of plywood, which I can already do with a straightedge clamp and one of my circular saws. Great review, though.
The problem the Dewalt track form addresses is the Festool Patents, on the whole track saw system. And if you look at the base, the DeWalt saw will work just fine on a Festool Track, but you lose the antikickback system. I have several Festool tracks I use with mine, and this lets me take advantage of all of the accessories available for the Festool track. The strange plunge action is to allow the riving knife to go into the wood as the blade goes in.
Thanks for the review. I've heard a lot of mixing feelings about the DeWalt Track Saw, but all of my cordless tools are DeWalt so I didn't want another battery system in my shop.
Great video. I have those saw and they are great accurate cut lots of power. You can use FESTOOL track with no problems I even used the FESTOOL FS-WA angle stop with this saw for cutting tables in a 45 degree and it’s great no problem. Anyway great review.
I use the fsn track from bosch and mafel. Really happy with it. I love that my 7 1/4” 18v circular saw is useable the same as my mafel track saw. To date I believe that bosch is one of the only that you can run a 7 1/4” saw on the track, which is great for depth cuts
Hey 731 how are you keeping? I wonder if when you are doing a video on making your own track or guide for the circular or chop saw, could you consider mention while people start to use it that they line up the saw against the guide, if they lock their wrist and arm while guiding the saw to run along and against the guide especially when starting the cut and stretching further along the cut. I'm in my 60s and in the last few years when using this saw that it can veer off away from the guide making my cut crooket or off a bit. I can't afford to buy an original track and had to make my own track guide as I'm only on disability allowance. I used it for a while not fully successful until I remembered something while firing rifles during my service in the army. When aiming the rifle we locked both wrists to hold the aim good. Other you tube videos don't show how to make these only show how they can make them and don't even give hints or ideas on how to use them safely and ensure good cuts. Thanks
I was going to ask about fitting the power stack 5 amp but you answered the question they don’t fit I find that is a deal breaker I have a worm drive corded skill saw and hope it fits on my Borla track and sled . I have been recovering from spinal surgery 6 months and getting ready to try it
Thanks a lot for doing these reviews! They are sooooo very helpful especially when most of us are on a crazy small budget and can’t afford making a mistake purchase.
I've had the old 28v version for 10 years now. Still the same old Dewalt quirks in the new version, which you'd think they'd fix. But it keeps ticking. I'm screwed eventually because they don't make 28v batteries anymore that I can tell, and I have a recip saw and drill on 28v. Few people realize the Dewalt will run on a Festool track if you want that.
I’ve watched pretty much all your videos. Great content and love your shirts. God has surely blessed you. My question is what do you do with all these tools? I’ve been looking at track saws but budget is lacking. Which one of the low priced saws are better?
Periodically we give them away to our Tubafour Nation members (details in description). Kreg is probably the best saw you can get for around $400 if you aren't in a battery platform yet. It's corded, comes with the saw and a track.
Thank you for the review - I am a Dewalt guy however I have heard a lot about the weirdness to this track saw. I was wondering if you would be doing a review on the Makita Track Saw XPSO1PTJ? I have heard good things about this saw.
Is the purpose of the two sided tract for 90's on one side and 45's on the other without messing up the zero clearance? I don't know but was just wondering if that is a possibility in the design
There is a nice benefit to two sided track: you can maintain zero clearance for both 90 and 45. Too bad the Dewalt looks to be the worse 45; plus I can’t see them adding an anti-tip feature with that track. Track saws are not just a tool; it’s a component in a system. Of the big (US) 3 Makita is hands down more dedicated to the track system than the other two combined: 3 platforms have plunge saws, at least 5 other battery circ saws are track ready out of the box, and many other tools have accessories for the track. Festool like Makita makes the track a core consideration in tool development -> 3rd parties almost always ensure their accessories work for these 2 systems. The other system that is worth considering is the corded Kreg because they have a nice packaged system (workshop really). It’d be great for a tiny shop on a budget covering a lot of what a TS/MS can do. My bias: LXT track saw owner; M12/XGT/Ryobi18 person for other tools.
I have the Dewalt tracksaw and use the Festool tracks without issues. The power of the dewalt saw is great. I totally agree with the angle settings, that's the only problem with my saw.
Nice review I can see how the dewalt not locking to the track would be not just annoying but leaving an opportunity for errors. I think everyone else straightened out the battery issue. I’m married to the yellow batteries so I think this would be sufficient for my needs. Thanks for taking a honest look at the different brands.
I have had this track saw since it came out. I agree with your review of it. I agree this saw has some power as I have used it too cut down commercial aluminum window frames. Was not happy about having to do that but it got the job done.
I was deciding on a track saw and ended up just going for the DCS572N as it was track compatible and could do all I needed, however I think I might need to reconsider & start looking again at a dedicated one… 👍🏼
I have the corded version of this saw and find the blade change very challenging too. The depth stop can be sticky. But the saw is a beast . . . and accurate.
I have that one too. I figured that unless I use the tool all the time or really need cordless I will stick to corded tools. They last longer and don’t get obsolete. Unless someone comes up with a hose-less vac battery tracksaws don’t make much sense to me generally.
I have the corded version of this saw. I have had it for about 7 or 8 years. It is basically the same saw. Just not battery powered. I have a short and longer track with a connector to make a long track for cutting 8 feet. It was expensive when I bought it back then and I have never been disappointed in it. As for adjusting the angle, I can also say that in all the time I have had this saw I have never had an occasion to cut anything other that 90 degrees. I use this saw almost exclusively for cutting down sheets. If the battery powered one is nearly as good as the corded one it is a real workhorse. It does have its quirks. But most things do.
I like that you can flip this saw on the track and go ether way! Because you could use one side for 45° degree cuts and the other for 90° without having to replace your rubber edge or buy a separate tracks for either one! That small feature could be a big money saver.
The weird plunge mechanism is much more ergonomic than the others. It puts your force down and forward fairly equally, where the pivot style plungers you have to actively keep down while pushing forward. It can be tiring just to make a few cuts on the pivot style.
BIG BRAVO TO THE ONE WHO FIRST CREATED AND PUT THIS MODEL OF HAND SAW ON SALE..... It's very easy when everyone on the side copies an already finished model and makes changes to it and beats their chests that they are better or the best.... well done guys, keep it up Festool TSV 60 KEB, always in front of others
During this video, I was listening to you talk about your favorite "packout" type systems and you gave the nod to Milwaukee. There is a systainer in the video behind you - no packouts...... LOL By the way, I love your videos and just thought you would get the joke. I like (and own) them both! I have some extremely loved systainers.... (ROS, and actually track saw are top two)
The fact that the saw can run in both directions on the track is an advantage if you're working in small spaces, where it is sometimes tricky to turn a long guide rail around.
That's why it's advantageous to have different sized rails. :) If I'm using my biggest rail, it's usually because the work piece is also big - and flipping the rail is a lot easier than flipping the work piece.
I have this track saw in the corded version and it works really well. The only problem is accessories are hard to find - out of stock or only for the Festool/Makita. Also since I’m the only one with this type, can’t share tracks and accessories with my friends.
As a dewalt fan, I'm very happy to finally get a dewalt track saw review, esp since i just found out that the flexvolt battery system works with my 20v tools, so i won't need to buy more batteries.
Batteries issue is that a 20v battery will not be able to supply enough voltage for the saw, and you would end up burning out the battery/tool. But the flex volt battery is capable of more voltage and can also regulate down and is safe to use for 20v tools. My question the depth of cut gauge being a thick plastic pointer, could top reading be for on track and bottom be for off track cuts? Either way @731Woodworks and @TheOutlawEffect you make some of the best videos!
I've had the DeWalt TS for a couple of years now and it has done everything I've asked it to do. I bought it primarily because all my other stuff is dewalt and I have pklenty of 20 & 60 batteries. The 20v batteries are designed specifically to not fit on 60V only tools because well, they aren't 60V. But the 60V flex can deliver 20v so they work fine on the 20V tools. I wish I had known it would work on the Festool style track though!!
I've had this saw for a few years now and I worked for DeWalt when they initially launched the corded version way back in the mid 2000s. Some of the weirdness comes from the saw being originally designed in Europe and also not really having a significant design update since the initial launch, other than it went from corded to 24V NiCad, to 36V Li Ion, to 60V FV. Their thought for the design of the plunge action was so it was more up and down so you could get straighter plunge cuts in material. The extra power you're getting is from the saw drawing 60V (54V actual) and the reason a 20V won't fit on the saw. The double sided track design was meant for tight spaces and carpenters trimming doors and in place fixtures. Not working for DeWalt anymore, I probably wouldn't buy this saw again, but if you have Flexvolt or 20V Max tools overall its a pretty good tool. Definitely wish it had an anti tip feature... such a pain in the ass!
@jack12343 I’ve never really run into a situation where I’ve needed the double sided track and honestly it could be some marketing bs on Dewalt’s part (tool companies are kinda good at that lol). As to using it with your left hand, the largest batt I have is a 9ah FV and there’s a decent amount of space between it and the handle, ~1 3/8”, so probably wouldn’t be a huge issue.
Depending on the type of material your cutting the adjustability of the RPM might be nice. Soft woods and composite materials might cut cleaner and won’t gum up under lower RPM. The heat generated under high RPM can be detrimental to the saw blade as well! Just my opinion!
I 100% thought you were about to launch into a "Better Help" ad read when you started talking about not fitting in. Joking aside, great review and it looks like I need to start saving for a black and yellow track saw.
Very thorough review, Matt. Thank you. Signed for The Outlaw Effect too. Still interested if you review the WEN CT1272 7-1/4" track saw; well made, clear markings, effective dust collection, variable speed (agree, that doesn't matter), uses standard tracks, and VERY reasonably priced.
I'm a DeWalt fan - not 'cause I think they're the absolute best but 'cause they're solid tools and felt it best to stick with one battery platform. I bought the track saw & love it. I admit the depth and angle adjustments aren't seamless but I can live with them - not a deal breaker, IMO. As for the track - since it's double sided, you can use one side for 90° cuts and the other for angled cuts without messing up or having to replace the zero clearance strip. I didn't buy their track. This saw works perfectly on a Festool track so I have a few of them along with the TSO accessories - works like a charm. Hope this helps & God Bless
The Dewalt will work in Festool type tracks. Need to flip the rail tension guides. That’s what the other slot on the bottom of the saw bed is for. I have Festool track saws and my assistant has the Dewalt.
Can you explain which cuts would be more comfortable ? The track is symmetrical, and the saw is always going to cut to the right of the track when moving forward.
This uses the same fixed style knife as the ryobi so if the saw goes straight down or rotates forward the knife will stop a plunge. But if the blade goes forward then the knife can slip into the Grove behind the blade as it moves forward.
I'm rather surprised you haven't thought to include the makita with any of your comparisons. The Makita is everything the festool is for a fraction of the money. Uses same type tracks, has better power (my opinion at least) with quality of any of the big brands. Can use on board blue tooth vacuum activation, that can be used with any vacuum with an adaptor. I was a dyed in yellow dewalt fan until I started using some of Mikita's tools. I will say that dewalt routers are best out there, but Makita is something I am buying more of now days. I would love to see you take a trip down Makita trail and see what you think. FYI, the only reason I went with something other than the dewalt when looking at track saws was the fact dewalt missed the mark on the same issues you brought up. My Makita track saw was the first Makita I've owned since their original cordless drill. I'm quite the fan of them now.
Awesome review. I have this saw and really like it. I have not had to do an angle cut yet so I will be looking in to those issues you mentioned. I also found it odd how to change the blade. The 3d printed pieces are very nice. Because of my small basement shop I hang my track on a beam in the ceiling so the end caps were a must. Now my issue is to or not to buy another battery for it they are CRAZY expensive. Keep up the awesome work Matt. 👽
What are your thoughts on the Makita track saw? Will you add it to your comparison group? I have the corded version and I find it to be worthy of showcase in your videos. Nonetheless, another great video!!
I agree that setting the angle is fiddly at best with the DeWalt, but how often do people make bevel cuts with a track saw? (Not owning one, I haven't a clue.) I have homemade plywood tracks for my 6-1/2" and 7-1/4" saws and use them both for 90° cuts only. If I need a bevel, I switch to the table saw.
The saw is really strong, comaparable to the mafell saws which is the best track saw on the market but it lacks some precision, the strange plunge is maybe to circumvent the original patent. I feel it is a great saw for carpenters but less so for woodworkers. I used it a lot for sheet goods, then tried the festool which is ok, but the mafell is the only saw worth switching if you have the dewalt
I have the dewalt saw mainly as thats the battery platform i have, I do like it but i agree the track setup is weird and the adjustments can be a pain. I think there is some way of messing with the blade lock that you can lock the blade out. With the 60V batteries they have different pins that can allow the tool to connect to the internal cells either in series or parallel , when run in series you get higher output voltage. I would think they don't allow the 20V batteries to work that way because the saw would be absolutely gutless and it would give it a bad reputation. I have a table with 20mm hole spacing and i just bought a set of long dogs that attach to the underside T track off Temu, ill be trying them out tonight.
The Flexvolt batterie switches mechanically from 20V to 60V (I think the same part on the machine, that blocks the 20V only batteries does activate the switch), for that you need 3 rows of cells 3x20V in line = 60V, even if it were possible from the electronics, the saw had only 1/3 of its power with 20V.
Fantastic review! Very thorough and informative. I bought the Kreg last year when I needed one and the price aligned with my budget at the time. I knew it would satisfy my needs because of your review of it. Now, I think I want to upgrade to a Festool just for the accessories that is available for that style of track. I really want to get a TSO track square, but don’t want to buy the one for the Kreg if I am going to upgrade to a Festool. I know, 1st world problems 😂. As always, great job Brother!!
I keep trying to find a reason to upgrade from the Kreg but it does everything I need it to, especially with the TSO. I found one but Kregs customer service is so amazing, they sent me a brand new saw. Someday
The Metabo-HPT track saw should be dropping soon. Maybe. We'll see. It's available in HiKOKI right now. I'd love to see a review of it when it releases in the U.S.!
Hikoki do the same thing with their 18v and 36v. You can use a 36v battery on 18v tool but you can't use 18v batteries on 36v tools. As for the DeWalt box, they are solid, we have a few and they can take my lardy arse when standing on them.
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I need a track saw! They look awesome.
Hi. So all videos say “just line the track up with your marks” my track saw is being delivered today!! Super excited!! My question is, do you need to accommodate for the blade thickness when lining up your cut? I assume you do if you’re cutting on that side but honestly have never heard anyone mention it in the hundreds of track saw videos I fell victim to lol. Thanks!!!
@@BHandy000 Depends on the side you're cutting. You may have to account for the thickness of the blade when laying out your marks.
@@731Woodworks feedback from other groups also provided me with the insight I was looking for. Thank you for your reply good sir I appreciate it. The answers were what I was kind of thinking. Anyhow, if you have the track on the finish side, you would line it right up with the marks. If you have it on the offcut side, you will need to accommodate for the kerf of the blade. I just got mine in the mail today and have a wainscoting project to do on Monday. Can’t wait to let her rip!!! I also ordered the dust cap off your affiliate site.
60 v. Flexvolt - 20 volt. Dewalt is actually protecting your tools by making the 60 v. Flexvolt battery different from the 20 volt, because the 20 volt battery doesn't have enough power to run the 60 volt tools like your tracksaw. The reason the 60 volt battery works on the 20 volt tools is that they are engineered to " Flexvolt" and they detect a 20 volt tool, then change to 20 volt power internally!
Yeah I was going to make this comment but you beat me to it. Kind of like if you had a 220v Table saw the cord is different so you can’t plug it in a 120v outlet.
U both beat me to it 😂
A 5amp powerstack or an 8amp 20v can eeeasily run a track saw.
@@agentchodybanks9120 60 volt?
And in Aus and NZ it's not called a 60volt it's a 54volt. Exactly the same motor, exactly the same battery power. America is like that mate that always says his dick is alot bigger than it actually is
Similar to some of their other tools requiring high torque, such as a grinder, this track saw only operates up to spec using the 60V battery. Consequently, DeWalt purposely made the tool connection such that it will only accept the 60V FlexVolts. Safety and performance wise, that makes total sense to me. As for tools that require lower torque values, it only makes sense they can accept any of the Dewalt batteries.
This was an incredible review of 4 fine track saws. Owning multiple 60V Dewalt batteries already, my decision is easy to make, especially with the price of the Festool. I like to think that future 45 degree cuts can be done on my table saw, but otherwise I'll figure out where on that yellow thingy is the actual pointer indicator. (Human factor engineering anyone?)
Thank you for an excellent review, now I feel confident in purchasing another yellow tool!
It's not just torque. It's all about power. 60 volts can deliver 3 times the power than 20 volts on same amps. That means a 60 volts motor can be about 3-5 times smaller and lighter than a 20 volts motor designed to deliver the same number of power.
I have a 15 year old corded DeWalt track saw that uses the same double-edged track. I've used the other side for 45° cuts-- one side 90°, one side 45°. Note that once you make a 45° cut, the rubber edge band is cut back and will no longer help to prevent tearout along the top edge of a 90° cut. Maybe not so weird once you realize the why of it.
Really good review! I think they on purposefully made it so you couldn’t put a 20V battery on. The flex system is compatible either way but the saw is 60V only so a 20V battery wouldn’t run the saw anyway. Also I think the plunge action may have something to do with the way they articulate the riving knife. But great overall review
That seems to be right as well. Maybe the plunging motion of the Dewalt allows them to have a riving knife that is fixed relative to the blade rather than the articulated one.
Exactly this. The reason the 20 volt batteries don't fit on is because of plastic nubs that protrude, these plastic bits change the flex volt battery from 20 to 60 volts. I know someone that thought they could get around buying a 60 volt battery and filed off those plastic bits, this rendered the saw inoperable with either battery
I've got a Makita 36v cordless track saw, and it's been great for me. Uses festool tracks, plenty of power. Good video brother!
I've been using the Corded Dewalt Track Saw for 14 years or so. It has held up well and love it. Two sided track comes in handy for me pretty frequently. You can also get an 8 foot track so you don't have to join two tracks.
What are some of the benefits of the 2 sided track?
I do remodeling and this includes replacing doors, one area where the twin sides are handy.
I bought this due to having pretty much all Dewalt stuff as well as some of the other 60V batteries (didn't know the smaller ones didn't fit because I just haven't tried them). As for the track, I bought the Dewalt track and promptly returned it because this saw *does* work on the Festool track! Since I cut quite a bit of +2" slabs the power has been the biggest advantage for me. Great review!
Question, why cordless if you still have a dust collection hose. So essentially still corded for dust collection. I don’t see why a cordless tracksaw unless I wanted to use it outside. But seems to me most of my cutting would be in my shop or I use my old circular saw outside.
I have the corded Dewalt tracksaw for 3 years, it's a great saw but joining the tracks is annoying and that it doesn't lock to the track for angled cuts. The depth adjustment isn't great either. I'm not sure if I would buy again. I did get 2 x 5ft tracks which are handy to split sheet goods down the middle in one pass. Excellent review indeed.
I bought this saw about 6 years ago (because I didn’t have budget for Festool :). Your review is spot on. Great saw. LOTS of power and I have used it extensively it has been rugged and dependable. Thanks
I have this saw and absolutely love it. I love the motion of plunge as it glides into the wood rather than pivoting into the wood. Ya this saw needs the 60V so a 20V won't work, not enough voltage, so Dewalt prevents the 20v from fitting. I am sure the low voltage might damage the motor. All the 60V tools in the live are like that, but cool you can use the batter down on a 20-volt tool. They do this through the connection pins so a 20v tool can use a 20-volt circuit in the 60v flex, but of course can't make a 60v battery out of a 20v battery. Nice review thanks!
Finally FINALLY!! A Dewalt review !!! I bought this saw even though you didn’t make a review on it.. all these years I been thinking it might be a bad purchase
DeWalt saw will work perfectly with Festool tracks. So you can pick up all the accessories that way. Also, if you remodel, the dual sides track can make some cuts more comfortable. Also, Benchdog makes a square rail for the DeWalt track
Good to know. I saw that extra slot in the shoe and wondered if it'd fit the more common tracks.
Can you explain which cuts would be more comfortable ? The track is symmetrical, and the saw is always going to cut to the right of the track when moving forward.
@@xl000 The one issue that can come up is if the waste side of the cut is not on the cut-off side the of the track. So for every tracksaw, as you're looking down (ready to cut) the waste side is always on the right. But there are times when the cut off side is to the left (under the track). This means you can't just line up the track and cut. You have to account for the kerf of the blade. There are jigs that do this (strawbyte kerf waste side jig). But with the dewalt, you can just fip the track and cut it. So every once in a while, it does come in handy. Also, if you do remodels, the track can save the day when there are things in the way and you have to cut to the left of the track.
@@hansangb I don' t get it. The track is symmetrical. Flipping it will change nothing. If the track is symmetrical, how could using one side differ from using the other one ?
@@xl000 OK, let me try again for the last time. Imagine you have a sheet of plywood with a good reference (perfectly straight) bottom edge (as you're looking down on it). Now you want to cut 90deg perfectly square cuts on LEFT and RIGHT Edge. The right edge is no problem because your square rail will reference of the bottom straight edge and since the off cut is to the right of the track you're good. No issues. What do you do about the left edge? The track can't reference the bottom anymore because your track can ONLY cut to the right of the track. To cut the left edge, you would have to cut from the top of the plywood. The problem is that the top is not yet parallel to the bottom reference edge. With Dewalt, track, you can just cut on the LEFT of the track while referencing the bottom of the plywood. In other words, your tracksaw can cut from the top of the sheet towards the bottom. While maintaining the reference edge on the bottom.
OHOO OOOH OOH ALSO for the double sided one, if you rip sheet goods a lot, but also hardwoods, and you use diff blades, you can have a diff side for each blade, so the rubber clearance strip is perfect for each blade!
There you go, that's the answer people need. Thanks.
Been waiting on this review before my track saw purchase one! Thanks for this review even though I’m a DeWalt fan think I’m going with the Milwaukee. Appreciate your videos looking forward to you doing some small builds for us in small shops! Thanks again God Bless
Glad it was helpful.
The Milwaukee is awesome, highly recommend!
I've been using the flexvolt rear handle saw and the stud and joist drill for several years. These tools are the most powerful on the market and absolutely blast through any material they touch. They never bog down and take a beating from my crew, money well spent.
The nice thing about the DeWALT is it works on Festool guide rails. One of my favorite features of my Festool is the Bluetooth batteries. DeWALT is the only other option with wireless vac activation. The Milwaukee and Festool also have the offcut splinter guard which is very nice to have.
Great review ! I was looking at these for a anniversary gift for my wife ,she always lets me borrow all her toys so this would work out . However the non interchangeable battery is a deal killer . I didn’t pick that up when I was looking at the info . ,Thanks for the heads up
Cheers
5:40 - one side for 90 degree, second side for example 45 degree....
7:20 - harder for kickback
Rpm changing when cutting materials like plastic or alluminum
As an owner of the corded version of the DeWalt, I agree with everything said in the video. Two extras to add to the conversation. First, two tracks will give you fits because the centered connection will shift on you on occasion and make your cuts go off. I spent for the long track instead. Second, this saw is based on the corded version and thus is not retooled for the more modern track saws like the recent Festool and Milwaukee. Also, the cut quality of the saw tends toward okay regardless of the blade.
None of these are deal breakers, but I’m leaning more towards the Milwaukee for my cordless saw.
1 of the things I wish all of the tool companies would start considering when they designed tools is what if the person using it only has the uses of 1 hand. I had polio as a baby and only have 1 good arm. So I have to try and figure out ways to do tings that are so easy for others. Just like the problem you just locking the blade can you imagine doing it with 1 hand. Just a little food for thought
Thank you for this. I’ve been patiently waiting. It’s a great saw, but the lack of positive stops is pretty frustrating. I bought the dewalt router track saw adapter as well for being able to cut repeatable, accurate rabbits or dados also. It’s product number DWS5031. Adds a bit of versatility.
The problems I had with this saw is the distance between the adjustment nobs, the dust from the front of the cut , the distended between the top handle and the battery..
Talking about the adjusting nobs is that you need to have 150mm of track behind and 150 mm in the front of the cutting pice because otherwise you will cut in to the track.
Dewalt's flexvolt circular saw and the DCD 800 drill are the tools that got me back into the brand. Now I'm running red and yellow. Im not in the market for a track saw, but the lack of a positive stop would be a deal breaker, and thats the only issue I'd have with it.
I've always felt like an outlier myself, Matt, so I'll be one here. I've been woodworking for 30 years and I still don't see any purpose for owning a track saw. I guess if I were doing a lot of work on site, it's probably easier than using one of those little baby tablesaws. But the only possible use I can think of for my shop is crosscutting sheets of plywood, which I can already do with a straightedge clamp and one of my circular saws. Great review, though.
The problem the Dewalt track form addresses is the Festool Patents, on the whole track saw system. And if you look at the base, the DeWalt saw will work just fine on a Festool Track, but you lose the antikickback system. I have several Festool tracks I use with mine, and this lets me take advantage of all of the accessories available for the Festool track. The strange plunge action is to allow the riving knife to go into the wood as the blade goes in.
Thanks for the review. I've heard a lot of mixing feelings about the DeWalt Track Saw, but all of my cordless tools are DeWalt so I didn't want another battery system in my shop.
Great video. I have those saw and they are great accurate cut lots of power. You can use FESTOOL track with no problems I even used the FESTOOL FS-WA angle stop with this saw for cutting tables in a 45 degree and it’s great no problem. Anyway great review.
Thanks 👍 for the review Matt. As always, you covered everything. 😊😊😊
I use the fsn track from bosch and mafel. Really happy with it. I love that my 7 1/4” 18v circular saw is useable the same as my mafel track saw. To date I believe that bosch is one of the only that you can run a 7 1/4” saw on the track, which is great for depth cuts
Hey 731 how are you keeping? I wonder if when you are doing a video on making your own track or guide for the circular or chop saw, could you consider mention while people start to use it that they line up the saw against the guide, if they lock their wrist and arm while guiding the saw to run along and against the guide especially when starting the cut and stretching further along the cut. I'm in my 60s and in the last few years when using this saw that it can veer off away from the guide making my cut crooket or off a bit. I can't afford to buy an original track and had to make my own track guide as I'm only on disability allowance. I used it for a while not fully successful until I remembered something while firing rifles during my service in the army. When aiming the rifle we locked both wrists to hold the aim good. Other you tube videos don't show how to make these only show how they can make them and don't even give hints or ideas on how to use them safely and ensure good cuts. Thanks
I turn my Makita down if I’m cutting acrylic sheets. Sees to help with the melting factor of a high speed blade.
Great idea. Didn’t think about that.
I was going to ask about fitting the power stack 5 amp but you answered the question they don’t fit I find that is a deal breaker I have a worm drive corded skill saw and hope it fits on my Borla track and sled . I have been recovering from spinal surgery 6 months and getting ready to try it
Thanks a lot for doing these reviews! They are sooooo very helpful especially when most of us are on a crazy small budget and can’t afford making a mistake purchase.
I've had the old 28v version for 10 years now. Still the same old Dewalt quirks in the new version, which you'd think they'd fix. But it keeps ticking. I'm screwed eventually because they don't make 28v batteries anymore that I can tell, and I have a recip saw and drill on 28v.
Few people realize the Dewalt will run on a Festool track if you want that.
Oh another addition to my Dewalt family tools. Thank you for the review.
My buddy has this track saw. The Festool track works with this.
I’ve watched pretty much all your videos. Great content and love your shirts. God has surely blessed you. My question is what do you do with all these tools? I’ve been looking at track saws but budget is lacking. Which one of the low priced saws are better?
Periodically we give them away to our Tubafour Nation members (details in description). Kreg is probably the best saw you can get for around $400 if you aren't in a battery platform yet. It's corded, comes with the saw and a track.
Thank you for the review - I am a Dewalt guy however I have heard a lot about the weirdness to this track saw. I was wondering if you would be doing a review on the Makita Track Saw XPSO1PTJ? I have heard good things about this saw.
Is the purpose of the two sided tract for 90's on one side and 45's on the other without messing up the zero clearance? I don't know but was just wondering if that is a possibility in the design
When Dew Witt reviewed it he said a 45 didn't mess up the splinter guard.
There is a nice benefit to two sided track: you can maintain zero clearance for both 90 and 45. Too bad the Dewalt looks to be the worse 45; plus I can’t see them adding an anti-tip feature with that track.
Track saws are not just a tool; it’s a component in a system. Of the big (US) 3 Makita is hands down more dedicated to the track system than the other two combined: 3 platforms have plunge saws, at least 5 other battery circ saws are track ready out of the box, and many other tools have accessories for the track.
Festool like Makita makes the track a core consideration in tool development -> 3rd parties almost always ensure their accessories work for these 2 systems.
The other system that is worth considering is the corded Kreg because they have a nice packaged system (workshop really). It’d be great for a tiny shop on a budget covering a lot of what a TS/MS can do.
My bias: LXT track saw owner; M12/XGT/Ryobi18 person for other tools.
I have the Dewalt tracksaw and use the Festool tracks without issues.
The power of the dewalt saw is great.
I totally agree with the angle settings, that's the only problem with my saw.
Really good review. I recently bought the Kreg tack saw and love it.
Would love to see you build stuff again. It’s product after product after product.
Thanks for the feedback.
Build videos don't make money
Nice review I can see how the dewalt not locking to the track would be not just annoying but leaving an opportunity for errors. I think everyone else straightened out the battery issue. I’m married to the yellow batteries so I think this would be sufficient for my needs. Thanks for taking a honest look at the different brands.
Hi 👋, Great territorial, just a shame you don’t do a review on Mafell , Phil from the moulin, France
I have had this track saw since it came out. I agree with your review of it. I agree this saw has some power as I have used it too cut down commercial aluminum window frames. Was not happy about having to do that but it got the job done.
Hi have you ever tried the Triton TTS1400 Track saw?
I was deciding on a track saw and ended up just going for the DCS572N as it was track compatible and could do all I needed, however I think I might need to reconsider & start looking again at a dedicated one… 👍🏼
Thank you matt I'm shopping for one and wondered....what about DeWalt....no one I know of review it let along uses it...
I have the corded version of this saw and find the blade change very challenging too. The depth stop can be sticky. But the saw is a beast . . . and accurate.
I have that one too. I figured that unless I use the tool all the time or really need cordless I will stick to corded tools. They last longer and don’t get obsolete.
Unless someone comes up with a hose-less vac battery tracksaws don’t make much sense to me generally.
Thank you for the recon mission for us, very helpful as usual
Always love it when Drew @Wittworks is mentioned in others videos. Dude needs more support and subs.
Ive had this saw for 3 years. No issues. Solid saw. Plunge mechanism feels great, cant fault it.
I have the corded version of this saw. I have had it for about 7 or 8 years. It is basically the same saw. Just not battery powered. I have a short and longer track with a connector to make a long track for cutting 8 feet. It was expensive when I bought it back then and I have never been disappointed in it. As for adjusting the angle, I can also say that in all the time I have had this saw I have never had an occasion to cut anything other that 90 degrees. I use this saw almost exclusively for cutting down sheets. If the battery powered one is nearly as good as the corded one it is a real workhorse. It does have its quirks. But most things do.
Does the Dewalt fit the old EZ track from Eurekazone?
I like that you can flip this saw on the track and go ether way! Because you could use one side for 45° degree cuts and the other for 90° without having to replace your rubber edge or buy a separate tracks for either one! That small feature could be a big money saver.
45 degree cuts don’t affect the rubber
If possible could you review the Skil plunge router??? It looks very different than most..
Thanks!
The weird plunge mechanism is much more ergonomic than the others. It puts your force down and forward fairly equally, where the pivot style plungers you have to actively keep down while pushing forward. It can be tiring just to make a few cuts on the pivot style.
BIG BRAVO TO THE ONE WHO FIRST CREATED AND PUT THIS MODEL OF HAND SAW ON SALE..... It's very easy when everyone on the side copies an already finished model and makes changes to it and beats their chests that they are better or the best.... well done guys, keep it up Festool TSV 60 KEB, always in front of others
I have the corded Dewalt Track saw. It actually works with the Festool track. I assume the cordless would to.
During this video, I was listening to you talk about your favorite "packout" type systems and you gave the nod to Milwaukee. There is a systainer in the video behind you - no packouts...... LOL
By the way, I love your videos and just thought you would get the joke. I like (and own) them both! I have some extremely loved systainers.... (ROS, and actually track saw are top two)
The fact that the saw can run in both directions on the track is an advantage if you're working in small spaces, where it is sometimes tricky to turn a long guide rail around.
That's why it's advantageous to have different sized rails. :) If I'm using my biggest rail, it's usually because the work piece is also big - and flipping the rail is a lot easier than flipping the work piece.
Particularly when you have set up eight foot of track!
I have this track saw in the corded version and it works really well. The only problem is accessories are hard to find - out of stock or only for the Festool/Makita. Also since I’m the only one with this type, can’t share tracks and accessories with my friends.
As a dewalt fan, I'm very happy to finally get a dewalt track saw review, esp since i just found out that the flexvolt battery system works with my 20v tools, so i won't need to buy more batteries.
Batteries issue is that a 20v battery will not be able to supply enough voltage for the saw, and you would end up burning out the battery/tool. But the flex volt battery is capable of more voltage and can also regulate down and is safe to use for 20v tools. My question the depth of cut gauge being a thick plastic pointer, could top reading be for on track and bottom be for off track cuts?
Either way @731Woodworks and @TheOutlawEffect you make some of the best videos!
I've had the DeWalt TS for a couple of years now and it has done everything I've asked it to do. I bought it primarily because all my other stuff is dewalt and I have pklenty of 20 & 60 batteries. The 20v batteries are designed specifically to not fit on 60V only tools because well, they aren't 60V. But the 60V flex can deliver 20v so they work fine on the 20V tools.
I wish I had known it would work on the Festool style track though!!
I've had this saw for a few years now and I worked for DeWalt when they initially launched the corded version way back in the mid 2000s. Some of the weirdness comes from the saw being originally designed in Europe and also not really having a significant design update since the initial launch, other than it went from corded to 24V NiCad, to 36V Li Ion, to 60V FV. Their thought for the design of the plunge action was so it was more up and down so you could get straighter plunge cuts in material. The extra power you're getting is from the saw drawing 60V (54V actual) and the reason a 20V won't fit on the saw. The double sided track design was meant for tight spaces and carpenters trimming doors and in place fixtures. Not working for DeWalt anymore, I probably wouldn't buy this saw again, but if you have Flexvolt or 20V Max tools overall its a pretty good tool. Definitely wish it had an anti tip feature... such a pain in the ass!
@jack12343 I’ve never really run into a situation where I’ve needed the double sided track and honestly it could be some marketing bs on Dewalt’s part (tool companies are kinda good at that lol). As to using it with your left hand, the largest batt I have is a 9ah FV and there’s a decent amount of space between it and the handle, ~1 3/8”, so probably wouldn’t be a huge issue.
Depending on the type of material your cutting the adjustability of the RPM might be nice. Soft woods and composite materials might cut cleaner and won’t gum up under lower RPM. The heat generated under high RPM can be detrimental to the saw blade as well! Just my opinion!
I 100% thought you were about to launch into a "Better Help" ad read when you started talking about not fitting in. Joking aside, great review and it looks like I need to start saving for a black and yellow track saw.
Very thorough review, Matt. Thank you. Signed for The Outlaw Effect too.
Still interested if you review the WEN CT1272 7-1/4" track saw; well made, clear markings, effective dust collection, variable speed (agree, that doesn't matter), uses standard tracks, and VERY reasonably priced.
He did do a review of it back a while, he compared it to the Kreg and Festool I believe
@@robw95 No, that was the lesser, earlier CT1065. The 1272 is much better.
Ah, my bad. Didn't know that Wen came out with a new model @@RYwoodview
I'm a DeWalt fan - not 'cause I think they're the absolute best but 'cause they're solid tools and felt it best to stick with one battery platform.
I bought the track saw & love it. I admit the depth and angle adjustments aren't seamless but I can live with them - not a deal breaker, IMO.
As for the track - since it's double sided, you can use one side for 90° cuts and the other for angled cuts without messing up or having to replace the zero clearance strip.
I didn't buy their track. This saw works perfectly on a Festool track so I have a few of them along with the TSO accessories - works like a charm.
Hope this helps & God Bless
Sometimes I turn down the speed for wood prone to tear out or synthetic materials (plastic, wood with epoxy in it, etc).
Can you cover what accessories work on Ridgid tracks
Another honest review. Thanks Mighty Matt!
The Dewalt will work in Festool type tracks. Need to flip the rail tension guides. That’s what the other slot on the bottom of the saw bed is for. I have Festool track saws and my assistant has the Dewalt.
Can you explain which cuts would be more comfortable ? The track is symmetrical, and the saw is always going to cut to the right of the track when moving forward.
This uses the same fixed style knife as the ryobi so if the saw goes straight down or rotates forward the knife will stop a plunge. But if the blade goes forward then the knife can slip into the Grove behind the blade as it moves forward.
I'm rather surprised you haven't thought to include the makita with any of your comparisons. The Makita is everything the festool is for a fraction of the money. Uses same type tracks, has better power (my opinion at least) with quality of any of the big brands. Can use on board blue tooth vacuum activation, that can be used with any vacuum with an adaptor. I was a dyed in yellow dewalt fan until I started using some of Mikita's tools. I will say that dewalt routers are best out there, but Makita is something I am buying more of now days. I would love to see you take a trip down Makita trail and see what you think. FYI, the only reason I went with something other than the dewalt when looking at track saws was the fact dewalt missed the mark on the same issues you brought up. My Makita track saw was the first Makita I've owned since their original cordless drill. I'm quite the fan of them now.
Awesome review. I have this saw and really like it. I have not had to do an angle cut yet so I will be looking in to those issues you mentioned. I also found it odd how to change the blade. The 3d printed pieces are very nice. Because of my small basement shop I hang my track on a beam in the ceiling so the end caps were a must. Now my issue is to or not to buy another battery for it they are CRAZY expensive. Keep up the awesome work Matt. 👽
What are your thoughts on the Makita track saw? Will you add it to your comparison group? I have the corded version and I find it to be worthy of showcase in your videos. Nonetheless, another great video!!
I’d love to see a Bosch track saw review, not many out there
I agree that setting the angle is fiddly at best with the DeWalt, but how often do people make bevel cuts with a track saw? (Not owning one, I haven't a clue.)
I have homemade plywood tracks for my 6-1/2" and 7-1/4" saws and use them both for 90° cuts only. If I need a bevel, I switch to the table saw.
Great review and I appreciate the information.
The saw is really strong, comaparable to the mafell saws which is the best track saw on the market but it lacks some precision, the strange plunge is maybe to circumvent the original patent. I feel it is a great saw for carpenters but less so for woodworkers. I used it a lot for sheet goods, then tried the festool which is ok, but the mafell is the only saw worth switching if you have the dewalt
Great review!! All track saws have positives and negatives.. but the positives outweigh the negatives..
Does anybody know if any of those track squares fits on a skil track?
That's standard Flexvolt tools 60 only. I'm still waiting on the AC adapter they said was releasing after the table saw released.
I have the dewalt saw mainly as thats the battery platform i have, I do like it but i agree the track setup is weird and the adjustments can be a pain. I think there is some way of messing with the blade lock that you can lock the blade out.
With the 60V batteries they have different pins that can allow the tool to connect to the internal cells either in series or parallel , when run in series you get higher output voltage. I would think they don't allow the 20V batteries to work that way because the saw would be absolutely gutless and it would give it a bad reputation. I have a table with 20mm hole spacing and i just bought a set of long dogs that attach to the underside T track off Temu, ill be trying them out tonight.
The Flexvolt batterie switches mechanically from 20V to 60V (I think the same part on the machine, that blocks the 20V only batteries does activate the switch), for that you need 3 rows of cells 3x20V in line = 60V, even if it were possible from the electronics, the saw had only 1/3 of its power with 20V.
Can you do a comparison with the dwe576 its a modified dwe576 with a base that rides on the dewalt track.
Fantastic review! Very thorough and informative. I bought the Kreg last year when I needed one and the price aligned with my budget at the time. I knew it would satisfy my needs because of your review of it. Now, I think I want to upgrade to a Festool just for the accessories that is available for that style of track. I really want to get a TSO track square, but don’t want to buy the one for the Kreg if I am going to upgrade to a Festool. I know, 1st world problems 😂.
As always, great job Brother!!
I keep trying to find a reason to upgrade from the Kreg but it does everything I need it to, especially with the TSO. I found one but Kregs customer service is so amazing, they sent me a brand new saw. Someday
The Metabo-HPT track saw should be dropping soon. Maybe. We'll see. It's available in HiKOKI right now. I'd love to see a review of it when it releases in the U.S.!
Does it have a score depth?
Hikoki do the same thing with their 18v and 36v. You can use a 36v battery on 18v tool but you can't use 18v batteries on 36v tools.
As for the DeWalt box, they are solid, we have a few and they can take my lardy arse when standing on them.
Will you be doing a review for the Makita track saw?
one side of the track setup for square cuts, the other side for bevels.
Would be really cool to see this saw used in a project build. I wonder how it would stack up for a furniture build.
I really like the fact that there are many options for track saws now available for consumers in various price points.