I really hate how people say "omg big is hanging out with children" when: A: big is 18 B: big obviously cares for cream and amy, helping them find chocola (he could have looked for froggy by himself), says things like "you better not be mean to my friends!" C: big is so innocent that he isn't angsty at the age of 18, seriously that takes some huge innocence
@@Disbelief_Last time I checked Sonic in the main series was around 16 according to word of god. Either way, there’s definitely some interpretation of an older brother-type relationship. I really don’t think that we should be determining disability based on the type of voice given to a character by a game that already has some bad voice acting. Man just likes his frog.
Jasmine I do. big is a fat cat and i LOVE fat cats. so he's a cat for me also he can fish! what cat that YOU know that knows how to fish? EXACTLY none. so yeah he's a nice cat to have as a pet.
I like Big the Cat for being the loveable oaf that he is. Sure his voice lacks any type of emotion and you’d not be wrong to think he was on anti-depressants based upon how spaced out he is. Heck, even his appearances you mentioned have been lacklustre... But they have been far more important to the franchise than anything Fang the Sniper, Bark the Polar Bear, Bean the Dynamite or even Team Chaotix has ever attempted to achieve.
Tentacle Touchy Ya know, i was ready to defend Fang and those guys for a second ...but you actually do raise a good point. Fang as cool as he his has hardly contributed anything to the game series and his fanbase seems to have been entirely formed from other outlets like the comic book version of him. Bark (i love that guy) and Bean obviously were fighting game combatants made by AM2 and were never intended to go further than that until Archie put them in the comics as well so you've got a point there too. Chaotix on the other hand ...i dunno. I feel they offer 'more' than Big ever could but it always feels like their inclusions are too few and far between. The Chaotix are in my eyes an awesome crew of characters to have in the Sonic Universe, they're just never really given much to do and anything they do end up doing lacks any sort of importance.
@@DiGiValentine Froggy doesn't eat a part of Chaos actually, it's show in the anime adaptation called Sonic X that Chaos forces a part of himself into Froggy to possess him so that he could snag a Chaos Emerald from Big even though he was close to get it himself.
Believe it or not, but Big the Cat has actually become a pretty active character in the Sonic Comics. If I'm not mistaken, he's even become an official Freedom Fighter and goes on several missions with the others. And Froggy isn't even a driving force for Big to do so. He's really there simply to help out his friends save the world.
I've always had a soft spot for Big the Cat, mainly because of his design. Big, relaxed, likes fishing, and a bit slow. A very big contrast to everyone else in the series, and that made him stand out so much for me that I couldn't really dislike him. Really shows how simply the design of a character can have such a lasting impression on people, even if it's presented badly. Now, if only SEGA could do something with that design...
***** Honestly, fishing in a Sonic game was never going to be a great inclusion to a series known for adventuring and speed, so the fact that his entire gameplay mechanic was just fishing mean people hated playing as the character and in turn they ended up hating the character himself. Well, it's that and the voice. The voice seems to get on a lot of peoples nerves ..so i came to the conclusion that if they had given Big a much more sensible and approachable voice then that would have soften the blow of having to play fishing in a Sonic game, ya know? But yeah, my opinion of Big has changed since doing this episode. Outside of the confinements of the games he is placed in he actually comes across as a pretty decent character. I would even welcome him back in to the series with open arms, if they could just not bring that voice with him. I'd even take the fishing levels again, lol (ok, that's probably a bit much).
I think the reason Big is appreciated as much as he is is because he was the pretty much the sole example of a more simple and more "Sonic" type of character in the "adventure era" of the series. The others (Omega, Rouge, Shadow) all pushed Sonic into that dark and edgy phase that a lot of us want to forget. Big is a dopey, simple guy with a simple story that's reminiscent of the simple stories that frame the genesis classics and thus sticks out more as a positive character to some who dislike the "OW. THE EDGE." that the Dreamcast era began.
+Tom Redfield I think a major reason why many people (including myself) don't like the "edgy" style of Sonic storytelling is because it just doesn't fit well. I mean the original game featured a fast running blue hedgehog chasing after and foiling the schemes of an obese mad scientist. Now take those very characters and stick them in a dramatic super-serious world, and this is the reaction you'll get from your followers: ** We can't take them seriously, because they were never meant to be taken seriously!
+Nintendotron64 The only games that seemed to be 'super serious' to me where Shadow and Sonic 06. Even SA2 didn't try to take itself super seriously, honestly it was more about character development than anything.
Now you see why Mario never change a lot his stories ? Because he do what an adventurer-plumber that is a little fat could do, rescue a princess from a turtle-dragon and also ocassionaly fights mad magicians You see why Mario won to Sonic a lot of times in sales ?
DiGi Valentine I knew you wouldn't leave us hanging like that!Its a very underrated character,no one really talks about. Out of curiosity,do you plan on doing an episode on the other new,playable Adventure character,Gamma?
MegaSparkster Oh E-102 Gamma? Yes, i do. I definitely plan on doing as many Sonic characters as i can, Gamma is one i find very interesting and will definitely be talking about at some point. It might not be for a little while yet as i want to get rolling with some other characters from other things (just to give variety to my channel and make sure not every episode is Street Fighter/Sonic characters) but i definitely plan to visit Gamma, most certainly :)
DiGi Valentine That's good to hear,Gamma is one of my personal favourite characters from the Sonic series.Quite ironic how one of the most developed characters in the series is a robot that only appears in one game.As apposed to other characters that have appeared far more often,but have little to none.I'm looking forward to future episodes of Who Dat,keep up the great work. :)
MegaSparkster That's what interests me the most about Gamma. He had one main game appearance and that was it. His story begins and ends in one entire game. And because of that he actually has the most complete structured story out of a lot of the other characters. .. . yeah, the more i think about it, the more i want to talk about Gamma at some point. I'll move him up the list a little so i can get to him sooner rather than later, lol.
You make some good points here, mate. I still don't like him, but he's not the worst. That would be Sticks from Sonic Boom. Seeing her really puts things into perspective.
The4thSnake Yeaaaah .....Sticks. She's a whole other kettle of wtf. Maybe i should do an episode on her one day in the future and see if i can find anything i like about her too, lol.
The4thSnake Lol, yeah, think i'll avoid Sticks for the time being then! XD As for future episodes and what characters are lined up, i'm thinking to do an anime character next (just for variety and a change of pace) then a video game character again, then bouncing back and forth so things don't get too stale around here. I want to make sure i'm not just doing entirely Sonic/Street Fighter characters, lol. But i'll be talking about all this in an update video soon. Should be pretty fun, either way!
@@kumatorahaltmanndreemurr Um... I guess? I don't really recall ever seeing Big talk about eating food, hating Mondays, or terrorizing his canine companion but... sure?
Holy cow DiGi you completely changed my outlook on the character. This combined with your hilarious commentary makes this my favorite episode so far. Keep up the good work! Though may I ask what has become of your other series?
RiDEL Haha, thanks very much! XD Yeah, Big's not as bad as people make him out to be. The dude just needs to be seen a different way, i guess. Thanks for watching! As for the other shows, yeah i need to figure things out. Some of them might remain active, some of them might not. Basically, Who Dat takes a lot of time and effort to make so my free hours are stretched a bit thin right now. I'll have to see. Perhaps if things smooth out in to a solid schedule then maybe i can see about bringing one or two of the old shows back.. but right now Who Dat is the show i intended to do when i started using this channel so it's taken top priority. I'll have to see how things go over the next few months as i build the channel up further.
I didn't think that these could get any more entertaining, but apparently I was really fucking wrong because holy shit was this amusing af. Your incredulity at his having a fan base, the exclamations over his shallow backstory, and near dismissal of his personality had me clicking that like button faster than anticipated. Seriously, nearly lost it at "he's a dumb shiiiiiit" because your accent and disgust just made it fucking perfect. My poor neighbors probably think I'm having an episode or something because of the random bouts of hysterical laughter - I think I startled *myself* with that. Another hilariously engaging video.
big the cat is the only consistently written character in the sonic franchise. every appearance he's in, it's the same version of the character. while characters like Sonic and Eggman has changed for the worse/better, Big is the same OG he has always been since he debuted.
Poor Big, he's in the misunderstood character club with Elise, Charmy, and Marine. He's a good and loyal friend. And while he may be dim, he isn't stupid. And he's also a powerhouse. He's just one big cinnamon bun! He means well and does his best!
Big is an absolute unit. He can pick up giant boulders and cars. Chaos just knew that he would be destroyed if he took big head on. That is why he possessed Froggy.
I was just looking to find out what Big's voice sounded like. I barely got any of that, but instead I got more info on a well-meaning character, and an interesting video format. Subscribed.
Saisha Greene Lol, glad you enjoyed it, Saisha! XD Also, glad to see you around. We were wondering where you had gotten to for a while. Happy to see you're ok! ^.^
Gained a huge following through inactivity... Sounds a LOT like Mighty and Ray. Except they weren't lucky enough to hit three game appearances even when combined together.
He's unironically not a bad character,his story and character are pretty chill and relaxed despite being quite sad if you pay attention to it,plus he is a loyal person that wants to save his friend (Froggy cares about him,he wasn't running for no reason)
So...silly as this might sound, the main thing that drew me into this video was the super adorable artwork of Big. Seriously, it's just too cute! I kinda wanna download it, if it were available for such, but that aside, this was honestly a fairly entertaining video. I've seen some Big hate, but, none of it was really...easy to visualize in another's perspective, I guess? I'm not sure how to word that; but, your opinions(for the most part)kinda helped with that, and as much as I do like Big, I agree with his flaws. And personally, that makes him a little relatable, since he isn't the same as everyone else. He stands out, but they don't mind one bit, and I've always admired that since I was little, as I've been the self-conscious sort all my life. Thank you for sharing this insightful video with us, I'll have to check out some more of your Who Dat videos. uwu
I actually really love big the cat. I see him as the lovable gentle giant character, later on he became like a big brother character to cream the rabbit and Amy. And in the story, when eggman released chaos from the master emerald, he accidentally breaks off chaos' tail. When the tail possessed froggy, it was actually for no reason. The only reason it possesses froggy, it just went after the closest living thing to it so the victim could be manipulated and bring the tail back. And since there was a chaos emerald in the area (and since chaos needs it) the possessed froggy was manipulated into bringing both to chaos. Eggman figured this out, which is why eggman put so much importance in froggy. (Because choas not only needs the emeralds, but also needs to be complete with his tail returned.)
I like Big, I like the fact that he's just a lazy fisherman living out his days with his best friend and was dragged into action to save his buddy. And his theme is awesome
I find it funny that back2s0ul uploaded the 'Who Dat?' Intro today. Also funny that DiGi uploaded a new Who Dat on the same day. That aside, this was an interesting analysis. Looking at Big now, I do agree with what DiGi said. Although, I do find him more tolerable in Heroes as opposed to Adventure. And the Duke Nukem part killed me.
The funny part is that Team Sonic put Big in Sonic adventures 2 to troll players. I guess since fishing is important in Japan, the designer decided to 1 up sonic fans for hating a cat that likes to fish. Big didn't do anything wrong. He was just in a a game that involved going fast and beating up evil scientist. But seriously, that's like putting Mario in Sonic's universe without it being funny.
I'm commenting on this because this is the last video I watched of the series, I love your who dat videos and your touching on two of my very favorite childhood character series. Street Fighter and Sonic to be exact. Please make more videos
In SA1, I THINK BIG the cat had to fish, so you can take a break finding gems, escaping zero, beating sonic in a act, and getting to a chaos emerald or opening a capsule, but big tried to catch froggy, if he did not catch froggy, then chaos could have been perfect chaos quicker, and big can hold a car. We need Big, stop saying he sucks, like in SA2 He is a cameo in weird places, I even saw him in space out the window. And In Sonic Heros, He had to be there so he can help. Cream Can Even Carry Big, so can Cream hold a car? In Sa1, The Only Boss Battle he had is Chaos 6, he could not fight any boss, but can fish inside any chaos number! Finally, Maybe In Sonic Heros, maybe he could not find a team, so he picked team Rose, Maybe... and no, not blaze or marine, sonic heroes is older than sonic rush and sonic rush adventure, cause sonic heroes was made in 2003, sonic rush in 2005, and sonic rush adventure in 2007. you can like or reply, and this is what i think, So don't say you need another opinion, i just made this, so i can show you what big can do, and why he does not suck, and learn how to fish with his action! I know, i don't need likes, not those type of comments, or spam, and Big the cat SA1 Level 2, is hard, because it is hard to find froggy, Hope you have a good 2019 the rest of the year! And make sure you don't be mean to big, because he helped sonic's team in a fishing way! done. :)
killer002099 No problem! Lol, i think i was going to make a Big the Cat episode eventually anyway because there's just so much to talk about with this character. But yeah, glad you enjoyed the episode! :)
I'd like to see Big reintroduced as a combat capable character, he's ridiculously strong, and probably ultimately durable, he could be like the Sonic's version of snorlax
I actually enjoy Big! While his gameplay in SA1 is meh, I do enjoy his character. A big guy with a big heart, even if he's a little slow. I would find it cool if he appear more, but oh well. Oh, and I guess that's the relationship between Big and Amy/Cream is more like a big bro/lil sis relationship.
***** Yeah, i have heard his Archie appearance is a much better version of the character. Makes me wonder if Sonic Team can take a bit of this comic version and incorporate it in to his game appearances ....that is if he ever comes back as a more active character again.
I wish the games would actually adapt the comics to be honest. I don't think that'll ever happen though since the comics use a lot of the made for TV characters that are non canon to the games.
LOL Those horror movie references cracked me up. And I somehow managed to get ALL of them even though I don't even really watch/play/read or enjoy the horror genera in any medium(I tried to give L4D a fair chance though because Valve is good at making characters).
“big holds no importance and ultimately their universe will continue on just fine with or without him” then again, that’s true for all of us. the world will keep on turning and the universe will keep expanding long after we’re gone and we will have no grand effect on the universe at large. we are all just here to burn out our hugely limited lives as we stand before the majesty of the changing cosmos.
Great video. Though, I have to comment on one thing. The only thing you'd change about him is his eyes? I'm sorry, but have you seen his feet? I like Big's design all around except for his feet, or whatever they are. They are just purple slabs, and they look incredibly off to me. I would honestly just cover his feet up. Adding detail to his feet would just look odd too, but I seriously can't get over these slabs he currently has.
Hmm, pretty fair analysis. What's also an underplayed characteristic of Big is his massive strength. He can lift up whole cars and can swing a massive spiked ball around, plus he's a Power-class character in Sonic Heroes. This is further accentuated by his stocky build and beefy arms.
The hate towards Big is really undeserved. Yeah, his voice is annoying, but I don't hold it against the character because that is something that could easily be changed. The voice actor was given very bad direction; if Big came back and he spoke more normally (They can still give him a sort of "slow" voice, but don't make it sound so overbearingly "cliche dumb"...) then there'd be nothing to complain about really. He's just a chill dude who likes to take it easy and enjoy the simple things in life, nothin' wrong with that! Plus his design is nice, and hey, I love cats! I think Big's design may have been sorta inspired by the Maine Coon. At the end of the day, whether you like or dislike Big, I think everyone can agree on at least one thing: He's miles better than a certain OTHER video game feline. Whos name begins with a B. And it ain't Blinx...
I could never bring myself to hate Big the Cat. In fact, I've always liked the guy as a kid, which was kinda hard because I was sometimes made fun of because I liked the guy. Even though there are some aspects that should've been more thought of in the drawing board like making him sound like he has Dow Syndrome, you'd have to give credit where it's due; he has a pretty likable personality and god damn heart of gold!
i just realized that was big back story and i laugh in tears in the fact that frog has more backstory and the fact that chaso is bat shit crazy . i laughed in tears of pain over just realize this now
It's my personal head canon that Big is actually Blaze's older brother, but got kicked out of Blaze's dimension because he was far too powerful, and now exiled, he lives his days more humbly, fishing with his only friend from his original home, Froggy.
2022 turned out to be a sleeper great year for Big thanks to Sonic Prime and Frontiers. And yet it's somehow canon that he has no backstory and just is here for no reason and everyone just goes with it because he's chill.
I like Big the Cat As you said he is slow and he realizes what's happening around him very slowly But when he realizes someone needs help he immediately helps I know in SA-1 he ran away with x tornado and put sonic and co in danger but he didn't realize that , but when he realizes he helps Big is funny and has a big heart and that's why I like him
Big with the Duke Nukem voice killed me for at least 10 minutes. I was laughing that hard, for real. If he had that voice, he would be, hands-down, the best character in the Sonic universe, lolololololololol!!! "It's time to catch fu*king frogs and eat some fish, and I'm out of fu*king fish." I swear though, if Big was a grappler character and was like a world champion wrestler instead of a big oaf catching frogs and fishing, he would probably be a better respected character. I can see that bling belt being a championship belt, for sure.
I find Big ok. Sure his voice can be a bit annoying but I always thought of him as the jolly gentle giant who would comfort you. But Elise on the other hand can burn in hell for all i care.
I always assumed that that puddle was just the tail portion of Chaos and not the whole entity. Would explain why it didn't just grab the emerald itself: it's just a tail. If it's capable of independant thought, then it possessed Froggy so that it could have a way of actually grabbing the emerald and carrying it around. If it's not capable of independent thought, then it possessed Froggy and stole the emerald out of reflex/instinct. Though then the plot hole question becomes " _Why_ did Chaos' tail separate from the main body and apparently crash land next to Big's house?"
Kefkaesque13 Perhaps, though it would have made a little more sense to have shown it only as the tail and not just a puddle. The first time we see the puddle was at the start of Sonic's story when you fight Chaos 0 ..and because of that i just instantly presume the puddle is Chaos in general and not just a part of him. Interesting theory though, basing parts of Chaos acting upon instinct. Personally, knowing Sonic Team though, we'll just put this down to bad story writing and them trying to shoe-horn in a brand new character that didn't really fit in to the story, lol XD
DiGi Valentine I know this video is old but as a kid I had always thought the tail may have been separated from chaos after eggman freed it from the master emerald by breaking it and not using some form of magic similar to how he was sealed by Tikal did and it left on its own due to pure instinct to find emeralds and not join back intill it found one
6:19 Funny enough in the elevator to exit of the sewers in Station Square, if you in slightly enough when the elevator closes, it will close on his tail and he'll say "Ow!"
I like Big, probably in my top 5 Sonic characters. First off, he's a running gag with the fans, and SEGA. Just type up Bigfeed trust me. I also like his design, cuz i love cats. And I kinda like his personality, as you said, he has a heart of gold and i like that. I can't really think of any other character like that, maybe someone like cream. And is it weird i dont mind his voice? Maybe because his status as running gag just makes it in my opinion more funny. Look at the grumps play of his story when Arin is like "DESE ARNT SWIPES! THEY AR E A DISEASE" I found that hilarious. So I like him in an ironic way and a bit of a genuine way as well. Man im weird.
I really hate how people say "omg big is hanging out with children" when:
A: big is 18
B: big obviously cares for cream and amy, helping them find chocola (he could have looked for froggy by himself), says things like "you better not be mean to my friends!"
C: big is so innocent that he isn't angsty at the age of 18, seriously that takes some huge innocence
He is like a guardian but derpy
- TheLunar27 - I don’t think he’s ... mentally 18 I think big legit might have a disability
Amy's a child? I thought considering the fact that she is literally in love with Sonic that she would be at least 18 or older
@@SuperiorBeing sonic is only 15 years old or atleast in the archie comics
@@Disbelief_Last time I checked Sonic in the main series was around 16 according to word of god. Either way, there’s definitely some interpretation of an older brother-type relationship. I really don’t think that we should be determining disability based on the type of voice given to a character by a game that already has some bad voice acting. Man just likes his frog.
So he is purple and not been in a canon game for a long time?
So he is Sega's Waluigi.
+Mila Basset Waluigi was NEVER in a canon game
kfcnyancat
True. Big is clearly more important to Sega than Waluigi is to Nintendo.
Marisa Kirisame yeah, if you look in depth, Big is more important than Silver at this point.
Sad thing is, I wanted to argue against this, but you had too much of a point. Yeah you are right.
Tikal The Echidna yep
Froggy didn't eat Chaos. I'm pretty sure Chaos forced himself into Froggy.
That's sounds really... wow... ew
+TakTheFox Well, in Sonic X Episode 27, we see a portion of Chaos (his tail) force itself into Froggy's mouth.
Eh it's not so weird i've seen weirder
How many of y'all actually like Big? I wanna know. :)
...*Raises hand*
+MrJakra Ayyyy
Big is life, Big is love
James Montana
yes.
Jasmine I do. big is a fat cat and i LOVE fat cats. so he's a cat for me also he can fish! what cat that YOU know that knows how to fish? EXACTLY none. so yeah he's a nice cat to have as a pet.
I like Big the Cat for being the loveable oaf that he is. Sure his voice lacks any type of emotion and you’d not be wrong to think he was on anti-depressants based upon how spaced out he is. Heck, even his appearances you mentioned have been lacklustre... But they have been far more important to the franchise than anything Fang the Sniper, Bark the Polar Bear, Bean the Dynamite or even Team Chaotix has ever attempted to achieve.
Tentacle Touchy Ya know, i was ready to defend Fang and those guys for a second ...but you actually do raise a good point. Fang as cool as he his has hardly contributed anything to the game series and his fanbase seems to have been entirely formed from other outlets like the comic book version of him. Bark (i love that guy) and Bean obviously were fighting game combatants made by AM2 and were never intended to go further than that until Archie put them in the comics as well so you've got a point there too. Chaotix on the other hand ...i dunno. I feel they offer 'more' than Big ever could but it always feels like their inclusions are too few and far between. The Chaotix are in my eyes an awesome crew of characters to have in the Sonic Universe, they're just never really given much to do and anything they do end up doing lacks any sort of importance.
True dat!!
Tentacle I agree
@@DiGiValentine Froggy doesn't eat a part of Chaos actually, it's show in the anime adaptation called Sonic X that Chaos forces a part of himself into Froggy to possess him so that he could snag a Chaos Emerald from Big even though he was close to get it himself.
Believe it or not, but Big the Cat has actually become a pretty active character in the Sonic Comics. If I'm not mistaken, he's even become an official Freedom Fighter and goes on several missions with the others. And Froggy isn't even a driving force for Big to do so. He's really there simply to help out his friends save the world.
Maybe not in the games but I think it still counts.
Ugh! Fine! But I still wanted to point it out. I just it'd be a nice little thing to note.
+Spencer Fleming With the game series. The comics don't effect the game series. Multi-verse, dude.
WHATEVER!!! I get already . . .
+Midnight☪Wonder I feel you. I love the comics because everyone can be fleshed out and have more time to shine.
Big, fat and cat... and purple... and fluffy... I DON'T NEED ANY MORE REASONS SO LOVE HIM!!! :3
I personally just like him cause I think his design is adorable 😅 wanna give the big fur ball a hug all day haha
When i was younger i cried because everyone hated him.Big trying to get froggy back is so sad 😢
VanillaPicklePal I know! Big is precious
I agree
Techna marc1 Same for me
Big is kind of an adorable character if you think about it, with his personality and and character design. (except for those eyes 0_0)
+Jenna M I agree.
Though to be honest, I like his eyes.
I've always had a soft spot for Big the Cat, mainly because of his design. Big, relaxed, likes fishing, and a bit slow. A very big contrast to everyone else in the series, and that made him stand out so much for me that I couldn't really dislike him.
Really shows how simply the design of a character can have such a lasting impression on people, even if it's presented badly. Now, if only SEGA could do something with that design...
***** Honestly, fishing in a Sonic game was never going to be a great inclusion to a series known for adventuring and speed, so the fact that his entire gameplay mechanic was just fishing mean people hated playing as the character and in turn they ended up hating the character himself. Well, it's that and the voice. The voice seems to get on a lot of peoples nerves ..so i came to the conclusion that if they had given Big a much more sensible and approachable voice then that would have soften the blow of having to play fishing in a Sonic game, ya know?
But yeah, my opinion of Big has changed since doing this episode. Outside of the confinements of the games he is placed in he actually comes across as a pretty decent character. I would even welcome him back in to the series with open arms, if they could just not bring that voice with him. I'd even take the fishing levels again, lol (ok, that's probably a bit much).
Big is basically just Sonic's version of Waluigi. An underused character that barley ever appears and when they do it's usually in a spinoff game.
niczaz58 Sad thing is that Waluigi gets even LESS acknowledgment and easter eggs than Big does.
niczaz58 and they have so many memes based off them.
Sounds like daisy
Waluigi actually has character.
@@grayson8633 you implying Big has no character?
I think the reason Big is appreciated as much as he is is because he was the pretty much the sole example of a more simple and more "Sonic" type of character in the "adventure era" of the series. The others (Omega, Rouge, Shadow) all pushed Sonic into that dark and edgy phase that a lot of us want to forget. Big is a dopey, simple guy with a simple story that's reminiscent of the simple stories that frame the genesis classics and thus sticks out more as a positive character to some who dislike the "OW. THE EDGE." that the Dreamcast era began.
+Tom Redfield I think a major reason why many people (including myself) don't like the "edgy" style of Sonic storytelling is because it just doesn't fit well. I mean the original game featured a fast running blue hedgehog chasing after and foiling the schemes of an obese mad scientist.
Now take those very characters and stick them in a dramatic super-serious world, and this is the reaction you'll get from your followers: ** We can't take them seriously, because they were never meant to be taken seriously!
+Nintendotron64 The only games that seemed to be 'super serious' to me where Shadow and Sonic 06. Even SA2 didn't try to take itself super seriously, honestly it was more about character development than anything.
Now you see why Mario never change a lot his stories ? Because he do what an adventurer-plumber that is a little fat could do, rescue a princess from a turtle-dragon and also ocassionaly fights mad magicians
You see why Mario won to Sonic a lot of times in sales ?
@@Knuckles_la_Enchilada What the fuck are you on about?
@@Knuckles_la_EnchiladaUntil you get to Super Paper Mario where he’s trying to stop the end of all existence.
Gained a fanbase by not being an active character? So... Mighty, Fang, Ray, Bean, Bark, Honey and Tiara? This is a common thing in this fanbase.
+VocalCalibration - Yeah, pretty much ~
+VocalCalibration A lot of unfortunate forgotten characters. I would love to see Honey and Fang return.
Edit: Also I want Mighty and Tiara.
Neon Silver I'd be down for this.
SEGA, why did you forget these great characters?!
+DiGi Valentine, do Sonic, Shadow and Silver!!!
Aw,no backstory for item box 47 :(
MegaSparkster Nah, Item Box 47 needs an entire episode. The backstory is too deep! D:
DiGi Valentine I knew you wouldn't leave us hanging like that!Its a very underrated character,no one really talks about.
Out of curiosity,do you plan on doing an episode on the other new,playable Adventure character,Gamma?
MegaSparkster Oh E-102 Gamma? Yes, i do. I definitely plan on doing as many Sonic characters as i can, Gamma is one i find very interesting and will definitely be talking about at some point. It might not be for a little while yet as i want to get rolling with some other characters from other things (just to give variety to my channel and make sure not every episode is Street Fighter/Sonic characters) but i definitely plan to visit Gamma, most certainly :)
DiGi Valentine That's good to hear,Gamma is one of my personal favourite characters from the Sonic series.Quite ironic how one of the most developed characters in the series is a robot that only appears in one game.As apposed to other characters that have appeared far more often,but have little to none.I'm looking forward to future episodes of Who Dat,keep up the great work. :)
MegaSparkster That's what interests me the most about Gamma. He had one main game appearance and that was it. His story begins and ends in one entire game. And because of that he actually has the most complete structured story out of a lot of the other characters. .. . yeah, the more i think about it, the more i want to talk about Gamma at some point. I'll move him up the list a little so i can get to him sooner rather than later, lol.
8:20 I really like how Big's ears fold back when he's about to fight here
If big the cat had a Duke Nukem style voice saying "froggy" he'd be my favorite video game character of all time
You make some good points here, mate. I still don't like him, but he's not the worst. That would be Sticks from Sonic Boom. Seeing her really puts things into perspective.
The4thSnake Yeaaaah .....Sticks. She's a whole other kettle of wtf. Maybe i should do an episode on her one day in the future and see if i can find anything i like about her too, lol.
DiGi Valentine Yeah, good luck with that. Easier to draw blood from a stone. You got any good characters lined up for the near future?
The4thSnake Lol, yeah, think i'll avoid Sticks for the time being then! XD As for future episodes and what characters are lined up, i'm thinking to do an anime character next (just for variety and a change of pace) then a video game character again, then bouncing back and forth so things don't get too stale around here. I want to make sure i'm not just doing entirely Sonic/Street Fighter characters, lol. But i'll be talking about all this in an update video soon. Should be pretty fun, either way!
DiGi Valentine Alright, I'll wait until that then. But I hope the anime characters aren't too obvious choices.
The4thSnake Ok. So, kinda curious. What would you consider to be obvious choices?
He's not dimwitted, he's just a lovable lazy kitty who likes to chill away from technology! Why are people so mean to him Dx also THOSE EARSSSSS x3
So basically he’s the Sega version of garfield
@@kumatorahaltmanndreemurr Um... I guess? I don't really recall ever seeing Big talk about eating food, hating Mondays, or terrorizing his canine companion but... sure?
This fucking hurts my soul.
Big The Cat Here is a hug :)
I w a n t y o u
Yo, How have you and Froggy been I haven't seen you since 2017.
I don't hate Big but the only thing I really like about him is his character song Lazy Days
Holy cow DiGi you completely changed my outlook on the character. This combined with your hilarious commentary makes this my favorite episode so far. Keep up the good work!
Though may I ask what has become of your other series?
RiDEL Haha, thanks very much! XD Yeah, Big's not as bad as people make him out to be. The dude just needs to be seen a different way, i guess. Thanks for watching!
As for the other shows, yeah i need to figure things out. Some of them might remain active, some of them might not. Basically, Who Dat takes a lot of time and effort to make so my free hours are stretched a bit thin right now. I'll have to see. Perhaps if things smooth out in to a solid schedule then maybe i can see about bringing one or two of the old shows back.. but right now Who Dat is the show i intended to do when i started using this channel so it's taken top priority. I'll have to see how things go over the next few months as i build the channel up further.
You basically explained how you can love him and hate him. I love it.
9:43 I think he would have benefited by having a voice closer to Forrest Gump's myself.
JENNAY
+mattwo7 I agree. Forrest Gump's voice is actually very coherent, even as it portray's the man's mental slowness quite well.
Big the cat: I'm here to catch froggy and suck ass. And i'm all out of froggy...
Big The Cat FOREVER coming to you this fall!
You know as a kid I used to think Big was a raccoon because of the rings around his tail and eyes.
Jurassic Reptile ...wow yeah, i can actually see that now! He does have a bit of a raccoon vibe going on XD
DiGi Valentine Raccoon even catch fish and frogs with their hands so I have to be on to something.
Jurassic Reptile Also creepy yellow eyes:
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10:10 literally was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen.
I didn't think that these could get any more entertaining, but apparently I was really fucking wrong because holy shit was this amusing af. Your incredulity at his having a fan base, the exclamations over his shallow backstory, and near dismissal of his personality had me clicking that like button faster than anticipated. Seriously, nearly lost it at "he's a dumb shiiiiiit" because your accent and disgust just made it fucking perfect. My poor neighbors probably think I'm having an episode or something because of the random bouts of hysterical laughter - I think I startled *myself* with that.
Another hilariously engaging video.
big the cat is the only consistently written character in the sonic franchise. every appearance he's in, it's the same version of the character. while characters like Sonic and Eggman has changed for the worse/better, Big is the same OG he has always been since he debuted.
he is truly neutral
The writers of Chronicles kind've misinterpreted his character though. I'm glad this vid didn't use any examples from that game
Poor Big, he's in the misunderstood character club with Elise, Charmy, and Marine.
He's a good and loyal friend. And while he may be dim, he isn't stupid. And he's also a powerhouse.
He's just one big cinnamon bun! He means well and does his best!
Big is an absolute unit. He can pick up giant boulders and cars. Chaos just knew that he would be destroyed if he took big head on. That is why he possessed Froggy.
I was just looking to find out what Big's voice sounded like. I barely got any of that, but instead I got more info on a well-meaning character, and an interesting video format.
Subscribed.
I have no idea why you don't have more exposure than this, your videos are hilarious and so well done, you do such a great job!
Bro, this whole segment had me cracking tf up! XD Love this so much!
Saisha Greene Lol, glad you enjoyed it, Saisha! XD Also, glad to see you around. We were wondering where you had gotten to for a while. Happy to see you're ok! ^.^
Gained a huge following through inactivity... Sounds a LOT like Mighty and Ray.
Except they weren't lucky enough to hit three game appearances even when combined together.
He's unironically not a bad character,his story and character are pretty chill and relaxed despite being quite sad if you pay attention to it,plus he is a loyal person that wants to save his friend (Froggy cares about him,he wasn't running for no reason)
Actually, not to sound like a douche, Chaos actually attacked Froggy. Froggy didn't eat Chaos.
So...silly as this might sound, the main thing that drew me into this video was the super adorable artwork of Big. Seriously, it's just too cute! I kinda wanna download it, if it were available for such, but that aside, this was honestly a fairly entertaining video. I've seen some Big hate, but, none of it was really...easy to visualize in another's perspective, I guess? I'm not sure how to word that; but, your opinions(for the most part)kinda helped with that, and as much as I do like Big, I agree with his flaws. And personally, that makes him a little relatable, since he isn't the same as everyone else. He stands out, but they don't mind one bit, and I've always admired that since I was little, as I've been the self-conscious sort all my life. Thank you for sharing this insightful video with us, I'll have to check out some more of your Who Dat videos. uwu
Let's not forget, Big the Cat is essentially Buffalo Bill. "Don't worry Froggy, the pain will end soon!"
"Amy, are you a size 15?"
"Sonic, can you help me move this couch? Wouldja?"
I actually really love big the cat. I see him as the lovable gentle giant character, later on he became like a big brother character to cream the rabbit and Amy.
And in the story, when eggman released chaos from the master emerald, he accidentally breaks off chaos' tail. When the tail possessed froggy, it was actually for no reason. The only reason it possesses froggy, it just went after the closest living thing to it so the victim could be manipulated and bring the tail back. And since there was a chaos emerald in the area (and since chaos needs it) the possessed froggy was manipulated into bringing both to chaos. Eggman figured this out, which is why eggman put so much importance in froggy. (Because choas not only needs the emeralds, but also needs to be complete with his tail returned.)
I like Big, I like the fact that he's just a lazy fisherman living out his days with his best friend and was dragged into action to save his buddy. And his theme is awesome
I find it funny that back2s0ul uploaded the 'Who Dat?' Intro today. Also funny that DiGi uploaded a new Who Dat on the same day.
That aside, this was an interesting analysis. Looking at Big now, I do agree with what DiGi said. Although, I do find him more tolerable in Heroes as opposed to Adventure.
And the Duke Nukem part killed me.
The funny part is that Team Sonic put Big in Sonic adventures 2 to troll players. I guess since fishing is important in Japan, the designer decided to 1 up sonic fans for hating a cat that likes to fish. Big didn't do anything wrong. He was just in a a game that involved going fast and beating up evil scientist. But seriously, that's like putting Mario in Sonic's universe without it being funny.
"We've always been friends, for years."
You can't make this stuff up.
*big is amazing and nobody better insult hin*
I'm commenting on this because this is the last video I watched of the series, I love your who dat videos and your touching on two of my very favorite childhood character series. Street Fighter and Sonic to be exact. Please make more videos
In SA1, I THINK BIG the cat had to fish, so you can take a break finding gems, escaping zero, beating sonic in a act, and getting to a chaos emerald or opening a capsule, but big tried to catch froggy, if he did not catch froggy, then chaos could have been perfect chaos quicker, and big can hold a car.
We need Big, stop saying he sucks, like in SA2 He is a cameo in weird places, I even saw him in space out the window.
And In Sonic Heros, He had to be there so he can help. Cream Can Even Carry Big, so can Cream hold a car?
In Sa1, The Only Boss Battle he had is Chaos 6, he could not fight any boss, but can fish inside any chaos number!
Finally, Maybe In Sonic Heros, maybe he could not find a team, so he picked team Rose, Maybe... and no, not blaze or marine, sonic heroes is older than sonic rush and sonic rush adventure, cause sonic heroes was made in 2003, sonic rush in 2005, and sonic rush adventure in 2007. you can like or reply, and this is what i think, So don't say you need another opinion, i just made this, so i can show you what big can do, and why he does not suck, and learn how to fish with his action! I know, i don't need likes, not those type of comments, or spam, and Big the cat SA1 Level 2, is hard, because it is hard to find froggy, Hope you have a good 2019 the rest of the year! And make sure you don't be mean to big, because he helped sonic's team in a fishing way! done. :)
3:17 My parents when I try to make excuses
yay finally :D thanks digi i swear i wont bug you anymore.
killer002099 No problem! Lol, i think i was going to make a Big the Cat episode eventually anyway because there's just so much to talk about with this character. But yeah, glad you enjoyed the episode! :)
Had me in tears...because I was laughing! yeah...
Fantastic video ^-^
Jayko Reynolds Haha, awesome! Glad to have entertained you! Thanks so much for tuning in! :)
Big's Big Fishing Adventure 3 Confirmed! :D
3:23 lol🤣🤣🤣
Also froggy is cute
I'd like to see Big reintroduced as a combat capable character, he's ridiculously strong, and probably ultimately durable, he could be like the Sonic's version of snorlax
I actually enjoy Big! While his gameplay in SA1 is meh, I do enjoy his character. A big guy with a big heart, even if he's a little slow. I would find it cool if he appear more, but oh well. Oh, and I guess that's the relationship between Big and Amy/Cream is more like a big bro/lil sis relationship.
Big's great in the Archie comics, that's about it though. His game appearances have always been meh to me.
***** Yeah, i have heard his Archie appearance is a much better version of the character. Makes me wonder if Sonic Team can take a bit of this comic version and incorporate it in to his game appearances ....that is if he ever comes back as a more active character again.
I wish the games would actually adapt the comics to be honest. I don't think that'll ever happen though since the comics use a lot of the made for TV characters that are non canon to the games.
@@DiGiValentine you should make a video speaking on the archie comics.
LOL Those horror movie references cracked me up. And I somehow managed to get ALL of them even though I don't even really watch/play/read or enjoy the horror genera in any medium(I tried to give L4D a fair chance though because Valve is good at making characters).
"What were you expecting? A Tarantino movie?"
Yes I was.
I laughed so hard that I cried during the Froggy backstory segment.
“big holds no importance and ultimately their universe will continue on just fine with or without him”
then again, that’s true for all of us. the world will keep on turning and the universe will keep expanding long after we’re gone and we will have no grand effect on the universe at large. we are all just here to burn out our hugely limited lives as we stand before the majesty of the changing cosmos.
Dood you make some amazing videos I'm shocked you don't have more subs. Keep up the good work!
*Big has a better story in the Fleet way comics, for Sonic the comic*
I like his song, which portrays him as a guy who just likes to spend his time relaxing.
I like the poor guy, bad gameplay doesn’t make a bad character.
Great video. Though, I have to comment on one thing.
The only thing you'd change about him is his eyes? I'm sorry, but have you seen his feet? I like Big's design all around except for his feet, or whatever they are. They are just purple slabs, and they look incredibly off to me. I would honestly just cover his feet up. Adding detail to his feet would just look odd too, but I seriously can't get over these slabs he currently has.
"He's a dumb shiiiiiiit"
Absolutely fucking murdered me XD
Hmm, pretty fair analysis. What's also an underplayed characteristic of Big is his massive strength. He can lift up whole cars and can swing a massive spiked ball around, plus he's a Power-class character in Sonic Heroes. This is further accentuated by his stocky build and beefy arms.
The hate towards Big is really undeserved. Yeah, his voice is annoying, but I don't hold it against the character because that is something that could easily be changed. The voice actor was given very bad direction; if Big came back and he spoke more normally (They can still give him a sort of "slow" voice, but don't make it sound so overbearingly "cliche dumb"...) then there'd be nothing to complain about really. He's just a chill dude who likes to take it easy and enjoy the simple things in life, nothin' wrong with that! Plus his design is nice, and hey, I love cats! I think Big's design may have been sorta inspired by the Maine Coon.
At the end of the day, whether you like or dislike Big, I think everyone can agree on at least one thing: He's miles better than a certain OTHER video game feline. Whos name begins with a B. And it ain't Blinx...
So happy to know I'm not the only one who makes the Biggie Smalls connection.
***** "SARDINES FOR DINNER!"
DiGi Valentine "Super Nintendo, Sega Genesis"
***** Big the Cat knows how to tote a gun, and have fun with Jamaican rum!
can't stop watching Your Videos
love this series bro, keep it up!
Big is the best anime character ever
He is the first thing you see in Sonic X
I like Big he's very relaxed and frankly he's kinda cute he's game play is very meh but it's short overall he's a nice character
I could never bring myself to hate Big the Cat. In fact, I've always liked the guy as a kid, which was kinda hard because I was sometimes made fun of because I liked the guy. Even though there are some aspects that should've been more thought of in the drawing board like making him sound like he has Dow Syndrome, you'd have to give credit where it's due; he has a pretty likable personality and god damn heart of gold!
i just realized that was big back story and i laugh in tears in the fact that frog has more backstory and the fact that chaso is bat shit crazy . i laughed in tears of pain over just realize this now
I could totally see a sufficiently magical cow possessing somebody who ate a hamburger made out of it.
Big's best appearance was in Sonic Chronicles, got plenty of chuckles out of him there.
Such much hate for big the cat wow :'(( LET HIM LIVE
One minute, you're running with the team...
Next minute, you're in prison!
It's my personal head canon that Big is actually Blaze's older brother, but got kicked out of Blaze's dimension because he was far too powerful, and now exiled, he lives his days more humbly, fishing with his only friend from his original home, Froggy.
2022 turned out to be a sleeper great year for Big thanks to Sonic Prime and Frontiers. And yet it's somehow canon that he has no backstory and just is here for no reason and everyone just goes with it because he's chill.
HA. You referenced his theme song at the very end! Nice touch!
I like Big the Cat
As you said he is slow and he realizes what's happening around him very slowly
But when he realizes someone needs help he immediately helps
I know in SA-1 he ran away with x tornado and put sonic and co in danger but he didn't realize that , but when he realizes he helps
Big is funny and has a big heart and that's why I like him
Well well well if it isn’t BYG DA KAT
Little did Digi know, Big's Big Fishing Adventure 3 was coming just next year.
And some people ship him with blaze
Big with the Duke Nukem voice killed me for at least 10 minutes. I was laughing that hard, for real. If he had that voice, he would be, hands-down, the best character in the Sonic universe, lolololololololol!!!
"It's time to catch fu*king frogs and eat some fish, and I'm out of fu*king fish."
I swear though, if Big was a grappler character and was like a world champion wrestler instead of a big oaf catching frogs and fishing, he would probably be a better respected character. I can see that bling belt being a championship belt, for sure.
omg that would be amazing.
Awesome! I'm not the only one who thinks Big and diddy, with Big The Cat.
Finally! I found someone else who doesn't hate Big the cat I'm not alone in this world :D
just like how the Game Grumps caled him ''a fricking dope''
Froggy didn't eat Chaos, Chaos forcefully went inside Froggy against Froggy's Will
You forgot the mention the most important thing about Big that everyone forgets...Big is Overpowered in Strength
well i liked him as a kid because fishing was one of my favorite irl things to do...and then im all "Wait..Fishing in a sonic game!?!?"
YOU JUST GAINED A SUB I LOVE THIS SOOOO MUCH YOU'RE HILARIOUS ˙δ˙
The Biggie Smalls and Diddy reference! XD XD XD
@4:03, whoa, I was playing Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney just as I was watching this video XD
I find Big ok. Sure his voice can be a bit annoying but I always thought of him as the jolly gentle giant who would comfort you. But Elise on the other hand can burn in hell for all i care.
I always assumed that that puddle was just the tail portion of Chaos and not the whole entity. Would explain why it didn't just grab the emerald itself: it's just a tail. If it's capable of independant thought, then it possessed Froggy so that it could have a way of actually grabbing the emerald and carrying it around. If it's not capable of independent thought, then it possessed Froggy and stole the emerald out of reflex/instinct.
Though then the plot hole question becomes " _Why_ did Chaos' tail separate from the main body and apparently crash land next to Big's house?"
Kefkaesque13 Perhaps, though it would have made a little more sense to have shown it only as the tail and not just a puddle. The first time we see the puddle was at the start of Sonic's story when you fight Chaos 0 ..and because of that i just instantly presume the puddle is Chaos in general and not just a part of him. Interesting theory though, basing parts of Chaos acting upon instinct.
Personally, knowing Sonic Team though, we'll just put this down to bad story writing and them trying to shoe-horn in a brand new character that didn't really fit in to the story, lol XD
DiGi Valentine I know this video is old but as a kid I had always thought the tail may have been separated from chaos after eggman freed it from the master emerald by breaking it and not using some form of magic similar to how he was sealed by Tikal did and it left on its own due to pure instinct to find emeralds and not join back intill it found one
Big stuck around because he's great meme material.
Probably one of the most underrated characters in the franchise
6:19 Funny enough in the elevator to exit of the sewers in Station Square, if you in slightly enough when the elevator closes, it will close on his tail and he'll say "Ow!"
I like Big, probably in my top 5 Sonic characters. First off, he's a running gag with the fans, and SEGA. Just type up Bigfeed trust me. I also like his design, cuz i love cats. And I kinda like his personality, as you said, he has a heart of gold and i like that. I can't really think of any other character like that, maybe someone like cream. And is it weird i dont mind his voice? Maybe because his status as running gag just makes it in my opinion more funny. Look at the grumps play of his story when Arin is like "DESE ARNT SWIPES! THEY AR E A DISEASE" I found that hilarious. So I like him in an ironic way and a bit of a genuine way as well. Man im weird.