Beethoven, Hammerklavier Fugue - HJ Lim
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"The subject of the great fugue begins with one note propelled towards the trill, as though this impulse creates a spiritual flame.
It bursts out, frenetically, ceaselessly, reminding us of the motif of the Promethean fire, and this spiritual flame is developed over and over, leading up to, we could almost say, cosmic explosion, reaching its pinnacle. From this blaze of the Promethean spark emerges a soothing, consoling song (the central fugue in D major), a fleeting moment of rest before the stretto begins, one of the most frantic pieces of music that you can imagine, summoning up a general hysterical panic, before falling into the obscurity of the universe, where only a mysterious palpitation can be heard (bars 373-383) with vestiges of the beginning of the subject of the fugue.
Then order is restored and the Promethean flame returns at bar 384, heroic, to triumph and impose this supreme mission of awakening the latent spirits of mankind.
After he finished his ‘Hammerklavier’ sonata, Beethoven said: ‘Now I know how to write.’ Indeed, he used almost all musical techniques possible: retrogression, contrary motion, canon, imitations and inversions, and he would tell his publisher when he handed over the manuscript: ‘Here is a sonata that will give pianists a challenge when it is played in 50 years’ time."
© HJ Lim, extract of essay on Beethoven Piano Sonatas in 2010.
"대푸가의 주제는 한 개의 음표가 트릴로 나아가면서 시작되는데, 이것은 마치 이 한 자극이 모터가 되어 신성한 불꽃을 만들어내는 것처럼 보인다. 그 후 이 푸가의 주제는 소용돌이처럼 끊임없이 터져 나오면서 우리로 하여금 프로메테우스적인 불을 나타내는 모티프를 떠올리게 만들며, 이 영적인 불꽃은 끊임없이 발전하면서 장대하고도 우주적인 불꽃으로 이어닌다. 그 후 달래고 위로하는 듯한 노래(D장조의 중앙부 푸가)가 흘러나오는데, 곧 (stretto)가 등장하기 전까지의 짧은 휴식이라고 할 수 있을 것이다. 이 스트레토는 상상할 수 있는 한 가장 거세게 휘몰아치는 음악이자, 우주의 불가해함의 형대로 발작적인 공포를 불러일으킨다. 이 대푸가의 주제는 곶곶마다 프로메테우스적인 불꽃이 다시 되살아나 영웅적이고 환희로 가득한 분위기 안에서 인류의 내면에 있는 영성을 일깨워주는 숭고한 사명을 부여한다.
베토벤은 ‘함머클라비어’ 소나타를 완성한 다음 ‘이제는 작곡하는 법을 알 것 같다.’라고 말했다고 한다. 사실 베토벤은 이 작품에서 역행, 역진행, 카논, 모방, 자리바꿈 등 거의 모든 음악적 기교를 구사했으며 자필 악보를 출판업자인 아르타리아(Artaria)에게 건네면서 이렇게 말했다. ‘여기 50년 후의 피아니스트들이 도전하게 될 소나타가 있소.’
©임현정, 2010년 베토벤 소나타 에세이 중
La tête du sujet de la grande fugue est faite de l’élan d’une note, propulsée vers le trille comme si cette pulsion créait une flamme spirituelle. Elle se déchaîne d’une façon frénétique et perpétuelle nous rappelant le motif du feu prométhéen, et cette flamme spirituelle sera développée à maintes reprises vers une gigantesque explosion qu’on pourrait presque dire cosmique, avant d’atteindre son paroxysme. De cet embrasement de l’étincelle prométhéenne surgit un chant apaisant et consolateur (la fugue centrale en ré majeur), un moment de repos fugace avant d’entamer le stretto, une des parties musicales les plus frénétiques qui soient, évoquant presque une psychose générale et hystérique avant de sombrer dans l’obscurité de l’univers où vibre seulement une palpitation mystérieuse (mesures 373-383) avec des survivances des têtes de sujet de la fugue.
Ensuite rappel à l’ordre, la flamme prométhéenne revient , héroïque, pour triompher et imposer cette mission suprême qui est de réveiller l’ esprits spirituel latent chez les hommes.
Beethoven dira, après avoir terminé sa sonate « Hammerklavier » : « Maintenant je sais écrire. » En effet, il utilisa presque tous les procédés musicaux possibles : la rétrogradation, les mouvements contraires, canon, imitations et inversions et il dira à son éditeur Artaria, en lui confiant le manuscrit : « Voilà une sonate qui donnera de la besogne aux pianistes, lorsqu’on la jouera dans cinquante ans. »
© HJ Lim, extrait de l'essaie sur les sonates de Beethoven, 2010.
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dang, that tempo...is brave! stunning performance :)
H. J. Lim, Beethoven is smiling.
This is a phenomenal performance - bold, fresh and full of vitality and courage, the sort of playing that leaves you wanting to cheer the composer!
Magical interpretation with dramatic expression and passionate energy. Bravissima!!!!
Beethoven was so unreachably ahead of his time composing music which is virtually unplayable. Only very few virtuosos are being blessed to perform this masterpiece.
침묵의 소리 읽고 있어요 :) 음악을 만나고 사랑한 이야기들 소중합니다 고마워요!
hands down you went to the limits and thats what he intended here. the limits of music and human capabilities. The text you wrote is absolutely nailing it too
Raw..raw...raw......pure emotion & pure technique!
HJ Lim in this live performance still keeps the record among the living pianists having improved her speed in the first fugue of the Hammerklaviersonate up to the 4'46 minutes [ i.e. a crotchet in 144] prescripted by Beethoven himself and later confirmed in an edition by his pupil Carl Czerny. Igor Levit worked really hard to reach Lim but he lies with his improved 5'01 still 15 seconds behind Lim who has improved herself too. The conductors Elliot Gardiner and Roger Norrington also conduct Beethoven's symphonies in the prescripted speed and affirm HJ Lim's opinion of interpretation of the sonatas and the correctness of Beethoven's Mälzel indikation.
In a converstion with HJ Lim Roger Norrington emphasized that not Beethoven's metronome was false but the slowness of many interpreters by lack of craftsmanship.
I am not a musician or an “expert” but that performance was simply thrilling!
You could even say it was “trilling” haha.
Ok I’ll show myself out.
Magical, universal, transcendental fugue!!!
신이 내린 선물입니다. 감사합니다. 이렇듯 좋은 음악을 듣게 해주셔서~~~
술먹으면서 이거 보고 우는 내 하루가 레전드다......... 임현정님 감사해요 제가 가장 좋아하는 파트 올려 주셔서
임현정님의 음악 열정을 응원합니다
Just Brilliant! Once again she shows a combination to total mastery and emotional passion. If she had one flaw it was a tendency to over pedal. Not here. Maybe because she has changed to a Steinway from whatever she used in her cycle. She is one great musician. I can't imagine what the big promoters are waiting for. Why isn't she playing in Boston and NYC and LA and Chicago, with the big orchestras or in solo gigs. A real gift to people who love this kind of music.
자신있는 일을 일컬을 때 눈감고도 한다 이런 말 하죠. 임현정님이 바로 그걸 보여주고 계십니다. 얼마나 많은 연습이 있었을지 짐작이 됩니다. 그는 보여주기위한 연주가 아니라 연주자 자신의 감성이 중요하자고 강조합니다. 하지만 새벽 3시에 잠자다 깨서 연주를 해도 바로 가능할정도로 연습을 해야한다고 이야기합니다.
신이 내린 연주자인 것 같습니다. 온 몸에 전율이....
Hard for me to believe that she's not the only person right now who really understands this insane piece of music
As last standing soldiers in this piano WW3, there is Schnabel and HJ Lim.
After 50 years listening to this moment all over the recordings. (yes, I began with 12)
She is at one with Beethovens spiritual vibration. Quite marvelous.
she is, without doubt one of the finest women ever to walk on this earth
Oh yes .... and also when she sits
and very pleased by this interpretation !!! LvB would be in love with HJL
I would like to see the battle in the bed .......... who's going to be in command ... ????
그 푸가가 내가 알던 푸가 아니여...
글랜굴드 더러..어느 한 비평가가 말하길 살짝 미쳤지만 소리 하나 만큼은 사람을 홀리게 만드는 피아니스트가 있다는 구절이 떠오르는 연주였습니다.
최고입니다!
Having learnt to play the fugue at 50% the intended speed, it doesn't matter how often I watch this performance, this tempo simply does not look humanly possible. I want to hear her play the first movement. Does she reach Beethoven's intended tempo there?
Her Beethoven's piano sonatas rendition are on Spotify!
Yes, she plays all movements of op.106 the first, the second and also the third in the prescripted speed without any mistake. The same
in all the other Beethoven sonatas. She doesn' t have any technical problems and musically she is capable to play how she really wants and not how she is able to act like most of normal pianists pitily are forced to do pretending their incapacity being "personal interpretation".
Beethoven would be impressed!
Époustouflant!
She is the piano virtuoso!
her beethoven recordings is perfect and alluring, i love the sonata no.29 especially :)
Thanks for the recommendation, and I will aim to listen to it.
덕분입니다
감사합니다
Absolutely great.
This performance has even more Fire, Passion and Viscereal INTENSITY than Yuja Wang's performance at Carnegie Hall. There is really NOTHING quite like it. IT STANDS ALONE AT THE PINNACLE OF TRANSCENDENT MUSIC!!! The Fugue is at the outer limits of human understanding! From the audiences reaction it is very doubtful they understood much of what they just heard. Can you imagine what people thought when Beethoven first premiered it??
To Nordic Healer : good to have you .
They are not so much who are understanding something at this point .....
Beethoven never premiered it, he was completely deaf at the time and could never play something like this
It was premiered by Liszt many years after publication
@@pavlenikacevic4976 yes
Astounding!
6:23 do you hear this ???? This is .......
Fabuleux !!!
천재 임현정 ❤ we love YOU
wow!
Bravo!
뉴스공장에서 알게되어 유튜브에서 좋은 연주 감상하고 있습니다. 감사합니다:)
Brava~~👏👏👏👏👏 👍👍
건반위의 하드 롹커 ...
어제 베토벤 탄생 250주년..
그 분의 롹 스피릿을 제대로
보여주십니다
Sviatoslav Richter must be smiling!
inraid why?
Richter loved to listen to pianists whom he
thought played differently and better than
him. Depending on repertoire this included
Sofronitsky, Michelangeli, Gould and a few
others. I don't doubt he would have liked
HJ Lim a lot!
@@inraid
Yes ... of course, because this is much better than himself. Richter was always completely constipated when he played the three great germans : Bach, Beethoven, Brahms. Too much respect. Makes bad music.
Come back. Please!
Van Tastic. The Well Hammered Klavier.
👍👍👍👏👏👏
Anyone else think this is a little too fast?
진짜 ㅋㅋㅋ와우...
her technique..!
1:16 .... a quasi-divine moment ..... Lim playing like a tender Goddess ....
Das Ewig-Weibliche (Goethe)?
@@Opoczynski
Yes ... of course ... what else ... ? :)
Muss es sein? Es muss sein! She understands Beethoven, the revolutionary. What is the essence of revolution? Acceleration of time. The work of revolution may well be realized through the evolutionary process - with a few centuries more. The only convincing Beethoven to me so far has been the Gardiner one. Now I add one more artist, who wholeheartedly, convincingly and brilliantly embraces the spirit - "De l'audace, encore de l'audace, toujours de l'audace!"
몇살때부터 보고 가르키는게 좋은가요?
50년후 제대로 연주되길 바랐던 베토벤이 이 연주를 들으면서 고개를 끄덕였을거 같다. 아니 옆에 서서 진동을 느끼며 머리속으로 상상의 템포를 그리면서.
PROOF POSITIVE - that HJ Lim is the all-time greatest pianist to ever glide over the surface of the Earth - unbelievable!
HJ Lim is freakin' awesome, but a few people named Ludwig, Franz, and Frederick probably don't quite deserve that shade you're handing them...
@@MultiCappie
Don't forget Artur, the King over the land of the 32 th .......
It's brilliant like the grosse fuge.
7:20 what is this sorcery ?? .....
piano miracle
Are there words to describe this?
"Here is the incomparable performing genius who can stand next to and embrace the incomparable composing genius."
베토벤도 4악장은 최대한 빨리 연주되는 걸 원했는데.. 아마 이정도 빠르기에 이렇게 설득력 있는 연주는 전무후무.한거 같다.
This fugue must be play fast. Good job.
The hair! 😂
I am numb. I have the best music.
For Lim , this Hammerklavier Fugue is not a technical competition , or some hypnotic-metaphysic adventure , or even an exotic moment in the life a an interpret ....
No ... no ! Because SHE LOVES IT .
As a mother her child , a woman full of desire running on its goal , or a REAL Angel landing on earth to tell an unindescribable thing (breaking news) ......
This is flesh .
An enormous sensation ..... "a woman has been able to play the Everest Fugue with success" ...... and came back from the summit with unbearable revelations .....
4:52 ..... please Mrs. Lim ..... this is PIANO .... piano, you know ... ? Not mezzoforte ...... please ..... I know that you are in trance, but please .......
This doesnt seem physically possible
0:07 of course this is fast ............. so what ? Aren't we in the land of the wildest-wildest dreams ... ? Of course we are ..... so , ahead .... Beethoven destroying forever our fragile shapes with this dynamitic score, and Lim close to rape Ludwig van in the arena ..... crazy ... crazy ..... I love it ... these battles for unlimited land, our destinies falling down, and rebuilt ... ade ade... this is ultimate ... limits broken, next limits unknown .....
ㅎㅎ;
The same fury as Schnabel , this same dynamic and victorious tenderness completely out of every border or limit .... but this time under the fingers of a WOMEN .....
If I am "sexist" ? Yes of course I am . But only in the sense I make a DIFFERENCE between man and woman . But no judgment about some intrinsic value . Is that clear ?
And here , instead of the testosteronic tempest of Artur , his metaphysical vertigos , HJ is giving us a lot quasi-divine whip lashes just on the face , her fantastic speed and will , she is on command , not becoming the missing rocket in which Artur was leaving the earth for his lonely trip without any return ..... because SHE will come back .
The aeternal and hypnotic image of the dominant women . Goddess .
The Hammerklavier of Yuja Wang was a disaster .
But Lim is winning . Winning .
Goethe's "das ewige Weibliche" in music, Herr Maisenbacher?
@@Opoczynski
Oh yes, Jacob, my drug of every day .................
우주의 딸, 세계의 딸, 한국의 딸, 현정의 세계 우주 , 언어는 거추장일 뿐! 아가페!!!
I agree at totum with such comments! She overcame all legendary pianists with this from heavens performance.
Thrilling and perfect.A stupend jewel :
H J Lim my "Perseverance" unique epic piece is for you.Record it and the Music will thank you forever.
Klavier Etude No 4 "Perseverance" in c sharp major Opus 58 by Yan Ayrton in
th-cam.com/video/QArXOT74ses/w-d-xo.html
(donated to all specialy the educated mankind in the significative day 4 Mar 2011.)
Atention! : For me, Yan Ayrton,
Ludwig van Beethoven IS the very apex from the Human Creation.
He remains not surpassed by anyone .
He stands reverentlly by meritus & absolute grace close near and
imbricated with The Mind And Heart From God." ― Yan Ayrton, a composer in development and evolution
.
>>> .ARS SEMPER.VITA PLENA. Yan Ayrton, classical composer
Bello Prokofiev, ma questo doveva essere Beethoven. Che spreco di note!
hehe, esatto.. she's a KIller! :D
This is so fiery..... The tempo is similar to Schnabel.
An old jew and a hot korean girl together to the conquest of the Everest ................... fantastic
日本人で例えるなら、岡城千歳さんに似た印象ですね🎵
Better to get through with that monstrosity as fast as possible.
Cocaine is one hell of a drug
Tell us more about this matter, please.
牛逼！ 就是干！
Hideous in the extreme. This is NOT a study by Czerny.
Czerny, Beethoven's not deaf pupil, later confirmed that speed! The speed is part of the music!
HJ Lim plays the first fugue in the prescripted speed by Beethoven of 4'46 minutes! Sokolow needs boring 6' 20 minutes! So it is clear who is the better pianist!!! Lim could it play like Sokolow but Sokolow not like Lim! His technics is too bad how you can see in his awkward movements!
She is too young to play the hammerklavier.
And you are too old to erect.