Ludwig van Beethoven - Grosse Fuge, Op. 133
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- - Composer: Ludwig van Beethoven (17 December 1770 -- 26 March 1827)
- Performers: Talich Quartet
- Year of recording: 1977
Fugue for string quartet in B flat major ("Grosse Fuge"), Op. 133, written in 1825.
Beethoven's Grosse Fuge {Great Fugue} was originally to have served as the finale to the String Quartet No. 13 in B flat major, Op. 130 [uploaded on this channel]; in fact, that work was first performed with this monumental creation as its sixth and concluding movement. However, the Grosse Fuge, a complete entity in its own right, proved too difficult for the performers and for some members of the audience. Moreover, it seemed an outsized finale for the relatively modest quartet. Beethoven subsequently produced a new final movement for the quartet, an attractive Rondo more in keeping with the spirit of the entire work.
The Grosse Fuge, eventually published as an independent work, is one of Beethoven's crowning achievements in the medium of chamber music. The work opens with an introduction, or "overtura." Here the mood is dramatic, effectively setting the stage for the whole work. The main theme -- heroic and defiant, powerful and self-confident -- is presented in four different versions. First, it is played fortissimo, in an emphatic, assertive manner, which will reemerge as its definitive guise in the coda. The subsequent accounts of the theme gradually become calmer and quieter.
The first fugal section is a double fugue marked Allegro. Here the main theme competes against another subject, which is also fiery and assertive. Their struggle, which includes substantial development, continues fortissimo. The second section, marked Meno mosso e moderato, is also a double fugue, its lyricism providing effective contrast to its predecessor. Here a new theme emerges from the counterpoint of the main melody. The third section, marked Allegro molto e con brio, features further struggle in which the theme eventually falters and seems to disintegrate. The second subject from the first fugal section emerges and appears to take control. Eventually, the main theme is rejuvenated in a passage marked Meno mosso moderato, and the signs of struggle fade in the two Allegro subsections that follow. The coda features the main theme in its original version, but now expanded and clearly triumphant. The mood turns reflective and mysterious, and suddenly the second subject appears, supported by the main theme. The work ends powerfully and magnificently.
The Grosse Fuge is dedicated: "Dem Cardinal Erzherzog Rudolph gewidmet".
*me wearing headphones*
"What are you listening to?"
"Beethoven"
"Nice. Could you send it to me? I need some new classical music to help me sleep"
"Uh, sure. Sweet dreams.."
Level 1-3 hahahahahaha nice!🤣🤣🤣
god this is so unique, you're top comment but deserve more likes lmao
"And while I'm at it, I'll send you 'The Rite of Spring . . . .' " TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fun-ny!
@@richardcleveland8549 And the Poem of Ecstasy
I hate it when people tell me they use classical music to sleep.
_"Große fuge is an absolutely contemporary piece of music that will be contemporary forever"_
~ Igor Stravinsky
Yet the seemingly enigmatic opening is a bog-standard I-N6-IV-V-I progression, identical to a passage near the opening of the 1st symphony, which I'm sure was a deliberate allusion (or Easter egg, if you like).
@@gspaulsson Context is the key I'd say.
@@gspaulsson It certainly doesn't sound bog standard however. That and the various other shrieks and howls and dissonances found throughout the faster sections give it a contemporary feel, even with a terribly dull performance as presented here.
"Why is it that whenever I hear a piece of music I don't like, it's always by Villa Lobos?"
~Igor Stravinsky
Cardi B be like:
I find it amazing because this type of broken harmony and dissonant notes bloomed in the early 1900 with the musical expressionism with Schönberg and Weber.
This piece by Beethoven is way ahead of its time.
prazak quartet
webern
Mozart and Weber, lol. It's Schoenberg and Webern (which are better btw)
Late Beethoven is the epitomy of musical composition, but he is so hard to appreciate.
@@davidbrant390 but schoenberg and webern sound like shit. i know the academic elements of their works, but i still think they sound shitty. every now and then people point out how mozart's string quartet in c 'dissonance' and beethoven late quartets foreshadowed serialism, destruction of tonal hierarchy. further into the romantic line, we have wagner's tristan und isolde, but are these really 'advancement' or 'innovation' in music? i think music got progressively got worse because contemporary composers wrote noise instead of music. is music really going in the right direction? i doubt it
So I told Beethoven to ignore the musical norms of his day.. he actually did it the absolute madman
Not a phony?
He simply didn’t listen
Who are you again? Oh, right, that Caulfield guy that knocked on my apartment door who I couldn’t hear very well. Could you speak a bit louder, please?
That kills me. It really does
@@animasonscience9132 He simply couldn't listen
1825.... My God... this was literally a century ahead of its time. I still can not get over the fact this was written in the 1820's....
try this too th-cam.com/video/kcfDxgfHs64/w-d-xo.html
Much like the part of his Sonata 32, 2nd movement, when he suddenly begins jazzing
you can find alot of shitty composition from that time which sound "a century ahead of it's time" and this is one of them
@@Whatismusic123 To everyone reading this, the person I'm replying to is just a troll who replies to all the comments they see with the first negative thing they come up with. Ignore them.
@@GUILLOM grow up
You can almost hear the frustration in the composition. The feeling of isolation he must have been dealing with slowly losing the ability to not only hear his own work but the audible connection to life itself. Eerie. Great interpretation by the musicians IMO
He had been completely deaf for more than 10 years when writing this piece. Just saying
This was after Beethoven came to terms with life and his deafness(Piano Sonata 31)
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@@Torebordalpiano He didn't go completely deaf at all, though. Just saying
It's Prinzip Hoffnung: Hope for the Blissful State of Affairs of Everyone by way of Revolution
This and the fugal finale of his Hammerklavier sonata are probably the most difficult pieces of his to appreciate on first hearing. But repeated hearings for many will reap great rewards.
My daughter likes it. She is 6. Months.
Stirling Newberry keep letting your daughter hear it so she will learn at a young age
yes the first time I heard it it was "too heavy" for me, but now I understand it so well that became one of my favorite pieces of all times, one of the highest quality compositions ever
@@SSNewberry she will be a genius
@@javiermedina5313 Mais oui ou mais non.
it's a weird feeling to know that Beethoven never heard this song, and people a few hundred years in the future heard it before he ever would
Beethoven heard this... On his own head, that's was enough to him
@@lisztomaniac2718 Beethoven completely lost his hearing while composing the Hammerklavier sonata (1817-1818), no longer being able to hear anything else, he installed a metallic horn on his piano that when he was going to compose it bit the horn so that he could feel the vibrations in his skull
@@lisztomaniac2718 Beethoven's friends and editors, because they thought Beethoven was completely deaf he was no longer understanding music or composition, but Beethoven was composing songs 100 years ahead of his time (this fugue is one of them in his late period)
@@lisztomaniac2718 he did have perfect pitch and there is no doubt that he could hear all the music he wrote in his head probably better than we can
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i don’t care but this is one of the best fugues since bach, this fugue is so well structured and overall the emotion of this fugue is so amazing that lets you the melody be stuck in your head for the rest of the day. beethoven you’re a genius among genius.
Mehhh wasnt that great
@@NarutoSSj6 mind you Beethoven was completely deaf when he composed this
@@NarutoSSj6 Listen again and pay attention, normie.
@@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven Hi Bud, I think one day I did something that sounds familiar by it’s character to the Grosse Fugue. Although it’s not a fugue, but similar in style of musical character for notes overriding on top of eachother violently in nature. Just so that we’re friends and you probably do find the Grosse Fugue to be one of the single best music ever written. I’d actually do want to hear your response on one of my videos, maybe you watched it before. But it’s the one I named Beethoven’s Berserker Rage. It’s always amazing to realize people’s thoughts about it whether or not they hear a similarity in character between that & the Grosse Fugue. I’ll really appreciate this so much!! Thanks..
Lol, pretend to enjoy it all you want - it's crap and everyone knows it.
giga-mega-super-fuge
.. that's not even a proper fugue. th-cam.com/video/OuYY1gV8jhU/w-d-xo.html
That's about the size of it.
Indeed!
super-ultra-hyper-mega-meta fugue
@@EthanPearson If Jacob writes a (decent) fugue I would blow my mind!
This is literally my favourite Beethoven composition of all time. I’ve heard it since age 14 and I think I can say I’ve heard it hundreds of times.
Sir, I'm 14. It's a pleasure to see you and listening to thing masterpiece!
It's so bad. How could anyone prefer this to beautiful music, it's just dissonant and weird. Beethoven in general was inferior to his predecessors.
@@ChucksExotics 😮😂
A ok
you should remove the h from your user name and that would represent your opinion very well.
Beethoven's True masterpiece
hum, that insinuates beethoven only wrote one masterpiece.
@Quinn Gray ho well. but it isn't only used as such.
@Quinn Gray There can be many masterpieces but only one Magnum Opus, and that is this godly piece.
with Beethoven it's always a problem to chose the best composition because they are all masterpieces, almost all of them, I think 9ths is the greatest masterpiece from Beethoven.
Amadeus Beethoven said his 8th Symphony was his best work. That's curious considering it's an untroubled, classical piece that's worlds away from this, or any of the late quartets, or the 9th symphony.
"My God you are more deaf than I thought."
lol
2x lol
although, i do love this piece. But there are some really strange parts, and I think its more in the transitions and rests. The harmony is spot on and the theme is great however.
Was that from Copying Beethoven, or Immortal Beloved? Both are excellent movies, but Immortal Believed is incredible. A masterpiece IMO. One of the most underappreciated & underrated movies of all time. In it's own way, every bit as good as the highly acclaimed, Amadeus.
Amen
Even if he had only ever composed this, he would still be among the greatest composers of all time, if not still the greatest.
Sike
lmaooo no.
Noble words, but is this piece even top listened in your own playlist?
@@martinsaroch3512 Yes, actually! It's in my regular rotation, up there with Schoenberg's Verklarte Nacht in terms of most-listened pieces.
@@stefanpredoi4564 Schoenberg’s first and Beethoven’s last, interesting combination.
The greatest music ever. In the peack of his deaf, he evolved into a super-man. Love you Ludwig, with all my heart.
And to think he wrote this while completely deaf😍😍😍
Legend
I actually think being deaf is a necessary requirement to write something this awful.
@@Pawel_Malecki ok boomer
Now shut up🤬🤬🤬🤬
@@Pawel_Malecki
i agree
@@Pawel_Malecki😮 ernsthaft??
Every time I return to listen to this piece the world seemingly stands still…. Thank you to the worlds most tortured genius. Long may he live in our ears and our hearts.
The fact that he wrote this while deaf is incredible
Pour les harmonies du heiliger dankgedang , oui !!!
Mais pas pour ça .
Not really. He's a trained musical talent and a great mathematician. You always wrote music before hearing it played back them. The incredible part is staying motivated the last 10 years or his life knowing he can never get the reward of hearing it. Mozart was still #2 all time because of his extra talent . I don't care what they say. :)
Number 2 behind Bach. BEETHOVEN IS 3RD.
After Bach’s Art of Fugue you’d think that no one could ever add anything new and meaningful to fugue literature, and then along comes Beethoven and absolutely knocks it out of the park with the Missa Solemnis and the late piano sonatas and string quartets. But this goes beyond all of that. It is titanic, weird, determinedly ahead of its time, and utterly fascinating. Bach was cataloguing his art with the utmost competence and completeness of form; Beethoven is like a bull in a china shop with his radical innovations and unbridled imagination.
You are wrong, Anton Reicha did it, Reicha created "symmetrical" fugues; one of the subjects of fugue no. 18 consists of a single repeated note. The maximum interval exceeds the ninth: fugue no. 7 extends over more than two octaves, there is polyrhythm... : th-cam.com/video/eZk6QQasAq8/w-d-xo.html
Bach would not have liked this fugue, he would have found it too barbaric! Anton Reicha developed the fugue after Bach with new processes : th-cam.com/video/eZk6QQasAq8/w-d-xo.html
Grosse fugue is the perfect example of the importance of many listens in any music with complex structure. I can feel goosebumps
This almost sounds like a Shostakovich string quartet.
true
Shostakovich almost sounds like this.
@@AAA.AAA5 This is absolutely what i was going to say. Every modern shit is just trying to copy this genial work
@@authenticmusic4815 lol, Shostakovich a modern shit. You're funny
Beethoven was way ahead of his time here. All the music critics of his day condemned this work. The opening theme is so chromatic, that it resembles the twelve-tone system of the 20th century that Arnold Schoenberg championed and pioneered. Schoenberg himself was a huge fan of this piece. Much of this fugue borders on atonality many years before that was a thing.
He paved the way for modern music, I firmly believe musical developments like metal wouldn't be what it is today without Beethoven
Everyone: Ahhhh, I just love classical music. It's so calming and peaceful.
Us, being intellectuals:
the "classical music is sleeping music" cliche is so inaccurate.
@@LachlanTyrrell2003 Ikr
@@LachlanTyrrell2003"classical music is stilling music"
@@LachlanTyrrell2003 everytime i hear that i just wanna blast shostakovich symphony 11 in their ears
@@unnamed_boi xD
7:26 - 15:39 has become my favorite few minutes of music so far
A deaf dude made this and i cant even do riptide on a ukelele, this man is way over my league
He was way over all of our leagues ;) except maybe Bach's...
0:10 I'm a simple man: I hear DSCH, i press like instantly.
bethoveen predicted Shostakovich
"what the hell do I care what my music sounds like? It's not like *I* have to listen to it!"
- Beethoven, 1825
Considering he was fully deaf when he wrote this, it just makes this even more amazing
Yeah, at times you can pretty much hear his frustration poured into this.
He wrote some of his best music while completely deaf.
@@Bucketheadhead Indeed. He was quite brilliant
@@tempoticandmeepstar7584 I must take issue with you sir, he was not quite brilliant; he was absolutely magnificent.
@@Bucketheadhead You are right
I love Beethoven's music so much, he's my favorite, but this I heard for the first time now. It's weird and great and emotional and everything at the same time, wow!
This is the one work of Beethoven’s that Igor Stravinsky pointed out as not too bad.
More than not too Bad: incrédible ,hé says
Music would never be the same after this. So many composers tried to reach the same level of inventiveness, craftmanship and originality but no one came even near.
If this fugue is grosse, imagine how good Beethoven's Deliciouse Fugue would be.
**Ba Dum Tsse**
So many comments on here regard this piece as being filled with rage and anger, but I don’t feel this at all. It reminds me of silly playfulness the mind initiates when greatly stressed. An outpouring stream of mixed emotion, once trapped within. String Quarter No.14, VII. Mvt, however, is anger and rage from the same time period, but not the Große Fuge.
Genius. Thank you for this.
This is the music I play when I’m angry with someone, or just a few people. The string orchestra version is what I play when I’m angry at a large group, or just the world.
then you absolutely don't get this piece, fuck you
This is the music of the most profoundly juxtaposed soul. Utterly otherworldly. The work of the master! I love it.
they always told Beethoven that he is unable to write a proper fugue so he said fuck it all I will show you that I can write bloody fuge. And that's the result.
The pain, anguish and passion…wow
Many criticized Beethoven for his peculiar approach to form but DID HE LISTEN?
Oldest joke there is out there, but still gold.
Fuga para cuarteto de cuerda en Si bemol mayor ("Grosse Fuge"), Op. 133, escrita en 1825.
La Grosse Fuge (Gran Fuga) de Beethoven originalmente fue el final del cuarteto de cuerda nº 13 en Si bemol mayor, Op. 130 [subido en este canal]; de hecho, esta obra se compuso por primera vez junto a esta monumental obra originalmente como su sexto y concluyente movimiento. Sin embargo, la Grosse Fuge, una entidad completa por derecho propio, resultó demasiado difícil para los intérpretes y para algunos miembros de la audiencia. Además, parecía un gran final para el cuarteto relativamente modesto. Beethoven produjo posteriormente un nuevo movimiento final para el cuarteto, un atractivo Rondo más acorde con el espíritu de toda la obra.
La Grosse Fuge, publicada finalmente como una obra independiente, es uno de los logros de Beethoven, coronación de toda la música de cámara. El trabajo se abre con una introducción, o "obertura". Aquí el estado de ánimo es dramático, preparando efectivamente el escenario para toda la obra. El tema principal - heroico y desafiante, poderoso y seguro de sí mismo - se presenta en cuatro versiones diferentes. Primero, se toca fortissimo, de una manera enfática, asertiva, que resurgirá como su forma definitiva en la coda. Las apariciones siguientes del tema gradualmente se vuelven más y más tranquilas.
La primera sección fugada es una doble fuga marcada Allegro. Aquí el tema principal compite contra otro sujeto, que también es fogoso y asertivo. Su lucha, que incluye un desarrollo sustancial, continúa fortissimo. La segunda sección, marcada Meno mosso e moderato, es también una fuga doble, su lirismo proporciona un contraste efectivo con su predecesor. Aquí surge un nuevo tema del contrapunto de la melodía principal. La tercera sección, marcada Allegro molto e con brio, presenta una lucha adicional en la que el tema finalmente vacila y parece desintegrarse. El segundo sujeto de la primera sección fugada emerge y parece tomar el control. Eventualmente, el tema principal es rejuvenecido en un pasaje marcado Meno mosso moderato, y los signos de lucha se desvanecen en las dos subsecciones del Allegro siguiente. La coda presenta el tema principal en su versión original, pero ahora ampliada y claramente triunfante. El humor se vuelve reflexivo y misterioso, y de repente aparece el segundo tema, apoyado por el tema principal. La obra termina poderosamente y de manera magnífica.
Muchas gracias por tu comentario. 💜
Ahhh, creo que todo ésto lo acabo de leer en Wikipedia... 🤔
Gracias x tu comentario
marvellous~ ahead of time by 100 years
This sounds like my life. It is rarely in uniform and often in chaos. I don't know and care why it is great or not, but this is unsettling and comforting at the same time.
I’ma call it “When beethoven meets Webern” imagine that would be a fascinating moment to create this quartet.
I don’t deserve to hear this. This is the greatest piece of music I have ever heard.
I am not here to disagree but do you mind explaining why?
@@yalz302 90% of the people in this comment section probably think this doesnt sound good while at the same time talking about about how absolutely magnificent this fugue is. Evidence: The abundance of comments that describe this as “anger”, when it 1. Does not sound angry(subjective ig) 2. Does not make sense in the context of the whole fugue, at all
This composition is obviously great and the extensive use of dissonance is innovative of course, but that does not change anything about the ideas presented itself, its not some art-defying thing that people in the comments are making it out to be. It ranks easily with or higher than his late piano sonatas, which have similarly engaging ideas
My compliments to the Poster for the excellent program notes above.
Let me add a few a quotable quotes:
"The Great Fugue ... now seems to me the most perfect miracle in music…
…It is also the most absolutely contemporary piece of music I know, and contemporary forever ...
Hardly birthmarked by its age, the Great Fugue is, in rhythm alone, more subtle than any music of my own century ...
I love it beyond everything."
-Igor Stravinsky
“"the most problematic single work in Beethoven's output and ... doubtless in the entire literature of music.”
-Joseph Kernan
"For me, the 'Grosse Fuge' is not only the greatest work Beethoven ever wrote but just about the most astonishing piece in musical literature."
-Glenn Gould
I’ll simply observe that, to my ears, if the listener has a favorite 20th Century “avant-garde” composer (and that could be anyone from Anton Webern to Frank Zappa), that listener will find moments here that seem to actually anticipate those composers, Serialism, and other compositional developments of that century.
And Ludwig Van wrote and re-purposed this Musical miracle AFTER he lost his hearing.
The predecessor of Brett's Lofi
I don't think some understand how difficult not only is this to listen to, but to compose in that time period as well. Making all the instruments sound so cohesive yet so dissonant from each other
0:55 All I hear is Awimbawe awimbawe Awimbawe awimbawe Awimbawe awimbawe Awimbawe awimbawe
Biibi R now i can’t unhear this
@@allenwang202 lmao sorry. i just finished watching the lion king with my nephew when i wrote this comment
@TheBmo4538 silence, shitheel.
@TheBmo4538 Are you disabled
@TheBmo4538 did you escape from a mental hospital?
This is like a piece Hindemith could've written in the 1930s or 1940s that was *inspired* by composers like Beethoven, Schubert, and Weber. But here we are, in the 1820s, with Beethoven writing this himself. Way, way ahead of its time.
And he was deaf on top of that!
What an ingenious work. The representation of life, hideous in it's true form; you have broken melodies and dissonance, just as life where things don't go as planned, it is all a short period of time where most days are heart aches.
nice
Thank you olla-vogala. Critics of the Grosse Fuge, just aren't up to it. Just thrilling to follow the score. My thanks.
Indeed, following the score can be very interesting. I know of a video of mozart's 40th symphony's 4th movement with scores and it's like keeping up with a car race!
This fugue though is like keeping up with, I don't know... all the cars in america at once?
This is one of the craziest works (if not the craziest work) by Beethoven. But for me, this is simply the true final of the B flat major quartet op. 130, and it should be played as the "Final Fugue", die "Schlussfuge ". At least, I understand this piece much better this way.
After that Bartok's quartets sounds nice.
No! This piece is God-Like
not to mention they are much, much, much more well written!!!
@@elcucumber2847 Shut up!!!!!!!!!
@@elcucumber2847 No Chamber work on earth is better than the Grosse Fuge other than Mozart's Adagio and Fugue In C Minor!!!!!!!
@@DanielFahimi bartok's string quartet use the string quartet's colour pallette a lot better. Not saying they're better but they are comparable. Probably the most important string quartets since Beethoven's
Exquisite playing all around... every recording brings a new hue to this revolutionary masterpiece... The ability to follow the score so splendidly has almost rid me of the need to follow my own mini score's ratty-edged pages... what a delight. Thank you, OLLA-VOGALA!
+cubanbach You're very welcome :)
:) I'm so glad! :)
Audience: I am here to listen to enjoy nice music.
Composer: too bad. you are seated already. This piece is not for you to enjoy. It is here to shake your soul, to make you uncomfortable. I write it to educate you. I know few people like to be lectured, nor like their view of the world challenged. But too late, you have nowhere to escape.
this music is ugly i shall listen to the 6th symphony instead
@@weewee2169 Shut up!
@@weewee2169 Did you even listen to the point?!?
@@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven
nah you didnt say that ahahaha
@@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven Don't mind that cattle.
Reminds me of Bachs Art of the Fugue the way its swung
I find it splendid.
This is the greatest thing I have ever heard, actually
he composed this while completely deaf. Never let your disability stand between you and your creativity.
it stood between him and his musicality, this piece is pretty bad
@@Whatismusic123 To everyone reading this, the person I'm replying to is just a troll who replies to all the comments they see with the first negative thing they come up with. Ignore them.
@@GUILLOM grow up
@@Whatismusic123 🤡
@@GUILLOM so childish
I think whatever's going on in the score at 11:17 is the Beethovenian equivalent of "more cowbell".
@@HanoiViaBangkok Every note marked _forte_
My Lord, how i've never stood a chance listening to this piece without choking up and wiping tears from my eyes.
...he should’ve written a series of fugues like this one...that would’ve been even more incredible...
11:17 - 11:55
About 40 seconds of true ecstasy...
I used to smoke a big doobie and listen to this. So freaky! Now that I no longer indulge in that bad habit, this music still takes me back into that headspace. However, at the same time, I suspect it’s one of those works that help give classical music its reputation among the peasantry for inaccessibility.
by the way olla vogala you are a god doing so much for art music
one of best of beethoven
I agree.
It is necessary to know the pain and the anguish, the pain to be able to understand this marvelous work and a god of course
The sheer number of comments on this is fascinating . . . the usual percentage of gnarly or uninformed, but a surprising number of well-considered and intelligent remarks. I like this quartet a great deal - but, then, I appreciate some dissonance in music, so that aspect of the GF doesn't bother me - it adds spice to the work. His quartets as a whole are wonderful, but I especially like the late ones. Seems as if Fred Child was rattling on about the GF on Performance Today a few weeks ago (Feb '20, I think), asking for listener opinion . . . so people are still arguing about it. To my long-listening-but-otherwise-musically-uneducated-ear, the Grosse Fuge is magnificent. Thank you for posting this.
If anyone else is somehow here from Academic Decathlon: “…a kind of counterpoint effect that is to ordinary d-state graphs what Beethoven’s Great Fugue is to ‘Mary Had a Little Lamb.’”
A committed performance of a stupendous work. The intricacies of this work are far beyond almost anybody who has no studied music, I suspect. I have been listening to it for over 50 years and am just beginning to understand some of it. This is not for the generation that wants instant gratification. There is plenty of music on youtube to satisfy that yearning..
🙄 oh fuck off. I’m 24 and I love romantic music - especially Beethoven. Instant gratification, my ass. Beethoven would hate you.
I think you need to get laid and quickly.
Boy, seems like you triggered a few special snowflakes here. I guess they feel it as a personal attack and can't distance themselves from their generation. There was hardly a generation that appreciated such music, it's always individuals. But I agree that instant gratification and technology is the true religion nowadays.
Stephen Dedalus agree
oof. trying to insult a whole generation just shows your closed-minded nature- despite what you probably think of yourself. if maybe you got to know some of these people you would have a different opinion.
What a counterpoint!
More like againstthepoint.
That’s what counterpoint means...
I can't believe that Beethoven senpai mentioned me in a fugue!
how did he compose this deaf
All written in his head, based on his memory of the sound of each note on each instrument. Makes for an interesting philosophical debate; does the 'Grosse Fuge' sound to us the same as Beethoven imagined it?
@@eddiewillers1 Wow. Never thought of that one. That really has me thinking! In my honest opinion, I don't believe it is what he had in mind. He expected contemporary audiences to love his work. Beethoven was a smart man, and I doubt he would not be able to understand what the audiences of that time wanted. However, the reaction the audiences gave him was far from his expectations, surprising him and angering him.
@@LachlanTyrrell2003 But was he composing for crowd or to express himself?
@@wodzimierzwosimieta2758 I think both.
I once read in a Beethoven biography that he had the legs of his piano sawn off and he felt the notes as vibrations on the floor.
9:43 - 10:03 i feel you beethoven
This is undoubtedly one of the most complicated mastepieces
Es un genio...aun en su lecho de muerte seguía componiendo....
For the people that didn't know
This was one of the piece composed by beethoven while he was deaf.
This sounds like something an edgy music major would write to piss their peers off and accidentally created a genre blurring incredible... something.
But it's almost 200 years old. I don't even need to check, I already know contemporary critics hated it.
I can’t understand what the fuck is going on.
I love this.
I love your comment
7:25 even Scott Joplin didn't that, Beethoven heard the future
Stravinsky react to Symphony Number 5:
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Stravinsky react to dissonance on Beethoven: 😳😳😱🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩
Agree with Stravinsky, symphony 5 is the stupidest thing ive heard from Beethoven, uncomparable to this fugue.
4:43 beautiful moment
Superb!
una verdadera obra maestra de la humanidad, definitivamente una genialidad de Beethoven.
beautiful
My favourite composers are Stockhausen and Webern
Delightful!
on ne se lasse pas de cette fugue magistrale , merci au quatuor talich , féerique comme toujours
Ridiculous, how can anyone create such harmonic dissonance. And people think this world happened randomly, how can so much beauty be contained in chaos?!
Yeah man, you are so right. This composition and The Doors' Celebration of the Lizard are my favorite atonal musical works from any genre.
this 'beauty' you speak of is literally a thing of humans (maybe other mammals to some simplistic extent), none of this means anything, to say a star, or a tree.
What if to some species the 'chaos' was intellectually pleasing and this 'beauty' was irrational garbage? Your statement '...so much beauty in chaos' is extremely close-minded
I feel like this is one of those pieces that you study in schools but you don't listen to it just walking down the street.
No published music is ever composed for that reason lol. Ive been listening to the finale section (last 6ish minutes) on loop everyday for a week straight, and it doesnt seem like i will stop soon. Listen to this again once youve have explored various styles of music and have confidently defined music.
True metal
As a young composer of the 21st century it can be easy to be intimidated by the sheer amount of musical styles and ideas now floating in the internet . My angle is focusing on the smallest musical ideas and transforming them continuously in different settings. In a way it's like quickly swiping through a series of pictures of the same person, but through time it tells a story.
Thank you so much for your insight and your listen. I appreciate your thoughts.
sheer
gaga
thanks for posting
This is 2020: the string quartet.
DA-DUM DA-DUM, DA-DUM DA-DUM, DA-DUM DA-DUM, DA-DUM DA-DUM
Who can have the intelectual authority to downvote one of Beethoven's best works. When you don't understand them, that does not mean they are idiots, just that they speak a language you don't understand. Shame on you.
Don't get hurt getting off that high-horse.
I happen to agree, Daniel. One needs to listen to the GF many many times before it gets into your blood!
@@marichristian1072 Dislikes are also a way to tell youtube to not recommend you videos similar to the one disliked. Infact best way to tell that to youtube so maybe a few utilize it.
@@craigresnianky6909 I think the guys insulting Beethoven’s work are the ones on a horse buddy.
Beethoven brain was found to have 'exaggerated folds' just like Einsteins. Perhaps you have to have that kind of mind to write music like this. Genius.
@@tsutsujiii Your hypothesis sounds more plausible
It's like those food exploration travel shows, when the indigenous tribe is treating the show host to a welcoming meal, and feeds him something very extreme to eat like a raw bleeding monkey kidney, claiming that it is the biggest honor and he can't refuse, and you can't help but wonder if it's a prank.
the one clip of a tourist finding out he ate fried cat lmao
Perfect! What a task to write this OMG!
"All it takes to write like him is a sufficiently large bottle of ink" - Stravinski, classical music rantmaster
@@Pawel_Malecki Stravinsky said that this fugue is quite a good piece.
Early nowave noise core
A composition truly ahead of its time.
Schoenberg has caught up.