Should tell people to make sure its empty first?? And that turning the valve won't empty it without having fitting pushed in there first. Would be good to go over a few more safety precautions.
John, it is extremely important to ensure the tank has zero pressure before removing the valve. There should be a dip tube bleed screw near the bottom of the valve (your video th-cam.com/video/YfQGu2kKHPEr/w-d-xo.html) that should be opened first. If the bleed passage is blocked, a pigtail screwed onto the opened tank valve with nothing attached to the open end of the hose will work too. Commenters suggesting exchanging the cylinder should consider that you only get 12-16 lbs of propane in an exchanged 20 lb cylinder. If you have one filled until the OPD stops at 80%, you will get 20 lbs + - propane, depending on the internal float position. Some sites charge by the gallon or pound (Tractor supply, U-haul, propane retailers) so you will pay less per pound of propane.
I was going to point out the set screw used to release any pressure, too... One other note: Common rubber gloves will not protect your hands from the effect of propane... We wore heavy rubber chemical gloves to protect our hands, when I ran a truck...
Traveling in the RV I learn that The Lowe's Blue rhino tanks actually have a proprietary valve on the newer ones that takes a key with a magnet to fill them so you have to take them back and exchange them and only get 15 lb when you exchange them. This is definitely a great video to take one of the brand new Blue rhino tanks and take their proprietary valve off of it and place a brand new valve on it and just keep going back to tractor supply and getting it refilled for $16.
I’ve never replaced a valve before but I have heard a trick or tip of to ratchet strap the tank to a beam or large strong fence post so that it holds the tank so that your not fighting the tank.
Do you know how certified professionals remove and install these valves? If they have a special tool for this. Searching for the "how to" professionals comes up buttkiss. I've always done it the way that you've done. One trick I've found is to remove the valve handle first. This gives a little more room to work the crescent and eliminates the possibility of bending the handle attachment screw. Nice video, thorough, and straight forward - thanks for sharing.
if they're really hard to remove , dig a hole , lay horizontal , drive a vehicle onto it . i use rear tire of farm tractor , but car or pickup works too .
NEVER IN AN ENCLOSED SPACE! Could be a water heater etc DO IT OUTSIDE, PLEASE ! ABSOLUTELY NOT AROUND FIRE OR FLAME, other than blowing up your garage/shop or fatally burning your self, great video !
I know this is an old comment, but yes, the valves are different. The OPD components are longer on the larger tanks. 4” long for 20# tanks, 4.7” for 30# tanks, and 6.4” for 40# tanks. Be sure and get the right length for your tank.
hi I bought a new tank and they don't fill it up because I need to change the valve it says 69.4 lb 31.5 kg you know which valve I should buy thanks for your help
Quit a few tanks have welding spatter inside, at the bottom of the thank. Them chinese workers don't care flipping the tank upside down after welding the center ring, so as to remove the metal debris before placing the valve. You get metal debris inside, which can clog both the OPD and the relief valve if the tank is being put on the side - a tank has many owners through time, not everyone handles them correctly. When you buy or exchange a new tank, put it on the floor then flip it at 45 degrees and listen inside for something like sand sliding inside - these are the metal debris from the welding. Skip that tank, pick another one. Also, these debris may make the tank appear slightly heavier, depends how much is it there. In some countries with less control, shady operators put sand at the bottom of the tank and sell them by weight.
Greetings. Do you have info on propane adapter to use to transfer LP from 30 pound to 30 pound? All i can find in refilling one pounders. I cant find anything
Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to trade the 20 pounders in? I understand changing the valves in the 30's and above. Just doesn't seem cost effective is all. Thanks for the vid.
Hello John! That is interesting. Do you have any kind of rules about the age of the tank? Here, after 10 years, it's being put out of service (they won't refill) and be recertified with a new valve. I am curious to see part 2 on how to fill another tank! Thanks!
Hello Joe! Nice to hear from you again. Looking forward to your projects on the new property. I got this same tank in the video filled the other day with no questions asked. If the tank looks in good condition and has an OPD valve, they just fill it up and hand it back. Part 2 will be uploaded next!
It is my understanding that the tank is considered "out of date" after 12 years, based on the mfg. date stamped on the collar. Usually a month and year. Our recertification stamps are good for 5 years, but based on the volume of tanks going through our local refill station, they don't take the time to check the date stamp very often if the tank looks reasonably good. I haven't had a problem for several years, but I skip the small refill places in favor of the local high volume place.
@@scottmiles3362 on the side of the the valve down by the tank threads is a bleeder screw on all valves! It is used to help fill and purge the tank when new or new valve was installed to release air so that there is just propane in the tank.
You can get a recertification stamp from propane distributors for like 5 or 6 bucks i think. And they test that opd valve so as long as you got it on there good you should be ok.
damn , you need to empty completely first and make sure there is no pressure in it if going to unscrew the valve... or don`t do the hustle wasting effort and money when it can easily just be exchange it at any gas station or walmart for a full and updated tested. you can get a almost new one from the bunch if you are picky... that`s how they get old tanks off the market.
My understanding is that you don't need the new style OPD valve on the large, 100 lb tanks. Only on the 20,30, and 40 lb. I think those sizes take the same OPD valve, but I'm not sure. The old style valves can be bled off but, but you have to use something to actuate the new style valves plunger inside.
Not sure what thats suppose to mean. But they are all put away in the 3 HUGE tool boxes out of view. Pretty sure i own and use more wrenches then you...LOL
Stop!!! I wish they'd start screening these like they do FB and Twitter. NEVER use a liquid sealant on LP tanks. Buy Natural Gas rated teflon tape or teflon tape rated for oxygen if your worried about leaks. John is indoor wearing latex/nitrile gloves and then mentions being careful in case there is residual LP in the tank??? If you don't know how to bleed a LP tank than don't work on it. No reason to use an adjustable wrench if you have a rack of open ended wrenches. Eye roll. You don't have one big enough John? Lastly don't buy something critical like an OPD valve on Amazon or eBay. Both places are having serious issues with vendors selling Chinese counterfeit garbage. Sometimes even the vendor does not know it. Buy this device from a reputable retailer or see if your local welding supply shop has them or can get them. Also folks, LP tanks like what John bought have expiration dates on them. If they are expired you can get them recertified and the costs depends on the state you live in and whether they follow the minimum Federal standards or they have additional standards like mandatory internal hydro-static testing. A licensed LP filling station is NOT going to fill an expired tank.
"NEVER use a liquid sealant on LP tanks" Rectorseal Tru Blue is a paste and the preferred sealant for tank valves. Teflon tape will not allow the valve to be fully seated. The valves have tapered pipe thread and are not suitable to have tape between the mating surfaces. Hint: did you see any teflon tape on the removed valve?
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Should tell people to make sure its empty first?? And that turning the valve won't empty it without having fitting pushed in there first. Would be good to go over a few more safety precautions.
Im not here to hold peoples hand. That is self explanatory. Thanks for watching!
@@JohnFrancoNHwow you don't sound like a very good person to me
He's right. That's common sense. @@user-kj1od5ed7p
John, it is extremely important to ensure the tank has zero pressure before removing the valve. There should be a dip tube bleed screw near the bottom of the valve (your video th-cam.com/video/YfQGu2kKHPEr/w-d-xo.html) that should be opened first. If the bleed passage is blocked, a pigtail screwed onto the opened tank valve with nothing attached to the open end of the hose will work too. Commenters suggesting exchanging the cylinder should consider that you only get 12-16 lbs of propane in an exchanged 20 lb cylinder. If you have one filled until the OPD stops at 80%, you will get 20 lbs + - propane, depending on the internal float position. Some sites charge by the gallon or pound (Tractor supply, U-haul, propane retailers) so you will pay less per pound of propane.
I was going to point out the set screw used to release any pressure, too... One other note: Common rubber gloves will not protect your hands from the effect of propane... We wore heavy rubber chemical gloves to protect our hands, when I ran a truck...
If there is a Reservation near by, I got my 20lbs for $10.80. They fill it to 20lbs, not 15
Traveling in the RV I learn that The Lowe's Blue rhino tanks actually have a proprietary valve on the newer ones that takes a key with a magnet to fill them so you have to take them back and exchange them and only get 15 lb when you exchange them. This is definitely a great video to take one of the brand new Blue rhino tanks and take their proprietary valve off of it and place a brand new valve on it and just keep going back to tractor supply and getting it refilled for $16.
Glad I found your video. I thought the valve was a left handed thread. Guess not! Thanks for posting.
You're welcome!
I’ve never replaced a valve before but I have heard a trick or tip of to ratchet strap the tank to a beam or large strong fence post so that it holds the tank so that your not fighting the tank.
Great tip! Thanks for watching!
I heard the tank had to be repaired by a certified technician to be legal? Aka a certified tank
For us DIYers, how did the valve from amazon work for you? Any leaks or valve operational concerns with the new one since your install??
you could use a crow foot socket with an extension and a breaker bar.
Do you know how certified professionals remove and install these valves? If they have a special tool for this. Searching for the "how to" professionals comes up buttkiss. I've always done it the way that you've done. One trick I've found is to remove the valve handle first. This gives a little more room to work the crescent and eliminates the possibility of bending the handle attachment screw. Nice video, thorough, and straight forward - thanks for sharing.
Yes we have special tools
if they're really hard to remove , dig a hole , lay horizontal , drive a vehicle onto it . i use rear tire of farm tractor , but car or pickup works too .
NEVER IN AN ENCLOSED SPACE! Could be a water heater etc DO IT OUTSIDE, PLEASE ! ABSOLUTELY NOT AROUND FIRE OR FLAME, other than blowing up your garage/shop or fatally burning your self, great video !
Do you think it would be a good idea to remove the valve outside away from any source of spark?
Do you need to have the tank "vacuumed" before having it filled for the first time after replacing the valve?
Good point. I would assume that the tank would indeed need purged after changing the valve.
Is there a difference between bottle sizes? For instance, can a 20lb bottle valve replace a 75 lb valve?
I know this is an old comment, but yes, the valves are different. The OPD components are longer on the larger tanks. 4” long for 20# tanks, 4.7” for 30# tanks, and 6.4” for 40# tanks. Be sure and get the right length for your tank.
Thank you 👍
You are welcome
I would not use a wire brush to clean threads on propane tank unless brush was a brass brush.
depends on the wire brush some are fine and some coarse
I wonder if a crows foot or a flare wrench on a ratchet extension would be easier than fighting with the crescent
Just the video I needed 👍
Would a Bad valve be the reason my new tank won’t refill??
hi I bought a new tank and they don't fill it up because I need to change the valve it says 69.4 lb 31.5 kg you know which valve I should buy thanks for your help
Quit a few tanks have welding spatter inside, at the bottom of the thank. Them chinese workers don't care flipping the tank upside down after welding the center ring, so as to remove the metal debris before placing the valve. You get metal debris inside, which can clog both the OPD and the relief valve if the tank is being put on the side - a tank has many owners through time, not everyone handles them correctly. When you buy or exchange a new tank, put it on the floor then flip it at 45 degrees and listen inside for something like sand sliding inside - these are the metal debris from the welding. Skip that tank, pick another one. Also, these debris may make the tank appear slightly heavier, depends how much is it there. In some countries with less control, shady operators put sand at the bottom of the tank and sell them by weight.
What if the tank still has propane in it? Can you still change the valve?
Greetings. Do you have info on propane adapter to use to transfer LP from 30 pound to 30 pound? All i can find in refilling one pounders. I cant find anything
Wouldn't it be easier and cheaper to trade the 20 pounders in? I understand changing the valves in the 30's and above. Just doesn't seem cost effective is all. Thanks for the vid.
I got the tanks for free and valves cheap. Thanks for watching!
New tanks are 45$ today. But yes you’re right you can trade in and get 16# for about 20$
What is the brand of sealant you used?
What if the valve is stuck shut & tank is full????
Open the bleeder. If you can't do that then send it in to somewhere.
Its cheaper to just exchange it a Home Depot for 22 dollars. You will also get a partial fill for that price.
to each thier own brotha!
This is very lucrative for larger tanks though. A new 100lb tank is more than $200 and they don't swap those.
A minute's worth of content squeezed into a mere 11-1/2 minutes
Thanks for watching!
Said the same thing…loves to hear himself talk, thinks he’s interesting…
serious question, is a tank swap at hardware store a realistic alternative.?
Realistically it's probably more worthwhile to just tank swap for smaller tanks. I would do this for 30lb+ tanks though.
Hello John! That is interesting. Do you have any kind of rules about the age of the tank? Here, after 10 years, it's being put out of service (they won't refill) and be recertified with a new valve. I am curious to see part 2 on how to fill another tank! Thanks!
Hello Joe! Nice to hear from you again. Looking forward to your projects on the new property. I got this same tank in the video filled the other day with no questions asked. If the tank looks in good condition and has an OPD valve, they just fill it up and hand it back. Part 2 will be uploaded next!
It is my understanding that the tank is considered "out of date" after 12 years, based on the mfg. date stamped on the collar. Usually a month and year. Our recertification stamps are good for 5 years, but based on the volume of tanks going through our local refill station, they don't take the time to check the date stamp very often if the tank looks reasonably good. I haven't had a problem for several years, but I skip the small refill places in favor of the local high volume place.
John Franco what if the valve was stripped and you need to release the propane still in the tank? No bleed off valve on those types of tanks
@@scottmiles3362 on the side of the the valve down by the tank threads is a bleeder screw on all valves! It is used to help fill and purge the tank when new or new valve was installed to release air so that there is just propane in the tank.
You can get a recertification stamp from propane distributors for like 5 or 6 bucks i think. And they test that opd valve so as long as you got it on there good you should be ok.
What size adjustable wrench is that?
I think its a metric adjustable wrench LOL
I mean the length of the wrench lol
250mm or 300mm?
damn , you need to empty completely first and make sure there is no pressure in it if going to unscrew the valve... or don`t do the hustle wasting effort and money when it can easily just be exchange it at any gas station or walmart for a full and updated tested. you can get a almost new one from the bunch if you are picky... that`s how they get old tanks off the market.
Where do you locate one of these
Link below the video
Thanks for the video. Do you use the same valve on a 50lb tank as you would a 20 pounder?
Not sure about 50lbs tanks what they are fitted it. Thanks for watching!
My understanding is that you don't need the new style OPD valve on the large, 100 lb tanks. Only on the 20,30, and 40 lb. I think those sizes take the same OPD valve, but I'm not sure. The old style valves can be bled off but, but you have to use something to actuate the new style valves plunger inside.
Just go trade it in at the gas station.
LOL. That wouldn't be instruction at all then.
HI
It's cheaper to exchange it for 15 at Walmart
maybe true...LOL
No wrenches in that shop?😂
Not sure what thats suppose to mean. But they are all put away in the 3 HUGE tool boxes out of view. Pretty sure i own and use more wrenches then you...LOL
@@JohnFrancoNH well it just seems like you could get a better bite with a wrench instead of a crecent wrench since they are smaller
@@JohnFrancoNH you may have used a crescent wrench to show everyone that's all you need 🤔
Hello I am livinig en Poland it is posible to send, 3 valve OPD for LPG. you give many (valve 20 lb)
Yes, it is always good to blow dust and lint into a propane tank.lol
Stop!!! I wish they'd start screening these like they do FB and Twitter. NEVER use a liquid sealant on LP tanks. Buy Natural Gas rated teflon tape or teflon tape rated for oxygen if your worried about leaks. John is indoor wearing latex/nitrile gloves and then mentions being careful in case there is residual LP in the tank??? If you don't know how to bleed a LP tank than don't work on it. No reason to use an adjustable wrench if you have a rack of open ended wrenches. Eye roll. You don't have one big enough John?
Lastly don't buy something critical like an OPD valve on Amazon or eBay. Both places are having serious issues with vendors selling Chinese counterfeit garbage. Sometimes even the vendor does not know it. Buy this device from a reputable retailer or see if your local welding supply shop has them or can get them. Also folks, LP tanks like what John bought have expiration dates on them. If they are expired you can get them recertified and the costs depends on the state you live in and whether they follow the minimum Federal standards or they have additional standards like mandatory internal hydro-static testing. A licensed LP filling station is NOT going to fill an expired tank.
"NEVER use a liquid sealant on LP tanks" Rectorseal Tru Blue is a paste and the preferred sealant for tank valves.
Teflon tape will not allow the valve to be fully seated. The valves have tapered pipe thread and are not suitable to have tape between the mating surfaces. Hint: did you see any teflon tape on the removed valve?
Nothing worse than being three minutes in and still not done anything 😅
Easy for you to say brother!
Long winded fool…one of these guys who love to hear themselves talk.
Make your own video buddy so i can sit back and criticize you!
Just increase the playback speed fool.