Fury lost to Undisputed champion Usyk in one of the biggest fights in boxing. Joshua got sparked out by DDD who went life and death against Kevin Lerena and got stopped by Joyce
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma you seem to also forget that people who don’t live in their basement can make improvements and change their mistakes 😭 put some gloves on brother
Bivol beat Beterbiev by fight how he normally fights. Bivol likes to throw shotgun combinations at different angles and then tie up Beterbiev when he gets too close.
this bs of one loss "spelling the end of someons career " is why top boxers rarely fight each other,in ufc people lose and bounce back,writing somonme off after one loss is holding people up to an unreasonable standard
Because in the UFC, fighters usually don't cherry pick their opponents. So losing is not that much out of the realm of possibility. Very different from boxing.
@@rorschach5510 Maybe that's because Ali never got beat by a fat contender or was knocked out brutally like Joshua was. Ali had a granite chin and he went the distance 4 out of his 5 losses.
I like you TJ but you're too much of a bandwagoner, if any fighter X loses or wins we can await your video on how "X career is over" / "No current fighter comes close to X". NOW I do understand doing this on the thumbnail, to get people to click, but the video needs to be more than this. It is clear to anyone that Anthony did get better since losing to Usyk, and at the same time he was worse than Dubois yesterday, who is a very good fighter. I don't know where he's career is going, I'm not even a big fan, but saying he is a one trick poney and that he never learned from old mistakes is simply not true.
In TJ's defense, TH-cam pretty much requires clickbait titles and thumbnails to keep channels relevant. Besides, TJ said himself that Joshua is 34 years old and still has really good fights left in him. But Dubois is still in his 20's and just schooled Joshua, and the other young bucks are making their way up every week. Joshua can win another major title, but he'd need to go on a winning streak and then figure out a way to beat these shorter guys.
You talk in absolutes/extremes too much. Of course AJ’s career isn’t over. We need to get over telling fighters too quit after a loss. I hate it and I think videos like yours with clickbait titles are bad for the boxing community
Read my mind, i fully agree. He did the same thing with izzy. Fighters win and fighters lose. Losing isnt abnormal, win/undefeated streaks are. We have just gotten used to all these undefeated fighters
I don’t think AJ’s career is done. He needs to finally face Wilder and later Fury in 2025 (whether he wins or loses to Usyk in the rematch). Then he can go for the Dubois rematch
Lol. If Fury beats Undisputed champion Usyk and becomes a unified champion, he ain't going to fight Anthony Joshua. Joshua has no belt, no mandatory position and 4 losses on his record 😂
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma V true, Fury will duck even harder now, as per usual. Barely got him to fight Usyk after 2 years, he'd retire immediately, there'd be no 3rd usyk fight if he somehow scrapes a win. No chance he's fighting DD
@@dethdaemon Fury-Usyk Undisputed was the quickest made mega-fight in recent boxing history. Joshua ducked Usyk for 2 years and petitioned IBF to move forward the Pulev mandatory in 2020. He kept talking about dropping the WBO belt and only agreed to fight Usyk after watching him struggle with Chisora
@@dethdaemon Filip Hrgovic called out Anthony Joshua in August 2022 on IFL. He said,"I want to fight Anthony Joshua. It's better money". Anthony Joshua ducked IBF mandatory Hrgovic to fight a factory worker, old man and his sparring partner
As if Joshua gonna win those fights. He's done... exposed. He can't fight fighters who put pressure on him. The Ruiz 2 fight is because Ruiz was a dumbass for getting his new fame and riches to his head. Dubois ain't no lazy Ruiz. Joshua is one of the overrated fighters together with Wilder, who also can't fight someone who puts pressure on him.
AJ had his hands down and had no head movement. I have no idea how to box. But even I was seeing some of the amatuar mistakes he was making, I was so confused at what he was doing when watching live
@@proboxer8916 Wilder and Fury took multiple KO shots from each other and kept coming back. Anthony Joshua has a glass chin and he's mentally weak. Ruiz and Dubois exposed the hypejob
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma Say what you want about his chin, but you can't call him mentally weak after getting up every time in this fight. He was even trying to get up while unconscious, ass in the air!
This is the problem with combat sports these days. A guy loses, and "his career is over," "he was overrated." On and on and on. People have been twisted by the story of Mayweather. They think fighters who are good should never lose. Anthony has had the same issues in every fight. He's won a bunch of fights, and we need to stop beating guys down for losing a fight.
I hate how a lot is people keep saying These fighters should retire retire after they have a loss, there’s still a lot of fights I would like to see, but if we keep saying they should retire after they lose then what would be the point of watching sports?
I know this video is about AJ, but...How did Fury lose in "horrible fashion"? I'm not even a Fury fan, but he had a good fight with Usyk - that loss was anything but horrible fashion. Had trouble in round 9 sure, but that was an overall good performance by him. I like you, but a lot of times you have unbelievably shitty takes. No offense.
Yeah, I think that too, fury had a great match against usyk, he won many rounds and was the only one to put the ukranian in real danger. His loss is nowhere comparable to the shitty performances joshua and wilder had in their last match.
He got dropped by MMA guy which wasn't a good look for him then got schooled by Usyk looking his belt and possibly looking again in the rematch if he doesn't fix his flaws
Fury won 3 rounds against Usyk and the ref stopped him from being knocked out. AJ the other night touched down both hands and was kept up by the ropes but still no knockdown, imagine what would have happened if Usyk was allowed another punch against Fury. Fury is OK, he’s not a great, not a hall of famer, just someone that played the boxing game well and tricked people
To me horrible fashion can only be if u get knocked out or lose every round , which fury didn’t have either happen to him . Hats off to usyk tho one on the best to ever do it
@@gardensaladdude90 it depends on how big the ko is. like tony ferguson took a brutal one and fans wrote him off. but canelo lost to floyd,ggg, bivol and no one cares cause its not a brutal ko. joshua and wilder took big kos. its over for them. stop now before your brain turns to mush.
@@johnmarkson1990 getting KO'd and dominated badly wont necessarily hurt the brain more than repeated non-concussive blows do, it'll however hurt confidence and a great part of being elite is just having a predator-mindset I see it too often that a guy gets flatlined once and then spends the entirety of his remaining career fighting overly defensively and shy overall
Just because he lost, does not mean he is over. In UFC one loss does tarnish a fighters legacy. It was a poor performance but he CAN come back and still do well. Dubois came back from big losses to Usyk and Joyce so don't doubt him just yet.
he is over as the paper champ. and the fake spin is over. It should have been over when Ruiz demolished him on his USA debut. but now this. Zhang and Wilder would beat him senseless.
nah bro, L vid on this one. AJ's career is safe until he loses 1-2 more on a row, you forget hes a legend with saudi money behind him. if he loses 2 more times yeah then hes finished. but saying that his career is finished is a L
His career is finished in a sense unless he beats dubois in a trilogy and beats the winner of fury usyk his legacy isn't as tarnished as Wilder's but it's pretty damn close aj has gotten exposed pretty much every huge fight except dinosaur Klitschko
Anthony Joshua's career is finished at the top level. He is on the same level as Wilder and Dillian Whyte. Usyk is the Undisputed champion. DDD, Fury, Usyk will fight each other for the no. 1 position
Anthony Joshua is a protected fighter. The ref Marcus McDonnell tried to save him from Dubois' beat down. Howard Foster and Steve Grey were two of the judges for AJ Vs DDD. They both tried to rob Usyk against Anthony Joshua. Ref Luis Pabon allowed Anthony Joshua to hit Usyk with 20 lowblows, rabbit punch in the 9th and shoulder slam in the 12th
I’m not sure why, but the capstone of how crazy this year of boxing has been would be seeing Fury beat Usyk. That’d just go to show how unpredictable this sport truly can be, and it’s truly a possibility in my eyes.
I don't think that Tyson Fury lost on a horrendous way as you say. The fight was very close until he got caught in round 9. But he was winning some rounds until then. When seeing it live, I thought that he was coming back after losing the early rounds but still a very close fight it was. But yeah, Wilder and Joshua got beaten pretty badly though.
Isn't the end of his career, he'll be back and I bet he takes the rematch. He was obviously overcome with anxiety, not himself. If he is himself he beats Dubois. Being back at Wembley, 98k breaking records, people telling him he had to win or his career is over, the Dubois spar, all got to him. Not good and that should not have happened, but he'll be back without a doubt.
Anthony Joshua landed 3 decent punches on DDD in the entire fight. Dubois cracked AJ's chin with 50 hard shots, dropped him 4 times and sparked him out😂
One that nobody is talking about is Jospeh Parker. He has wins over Ruiz, Wilder, Chisora, zhang, and his loss to AJ is an embarrassment to boxing. The ref completely stopped Parker from using any kind of offense. Ive never seen anything like it. Parker has an engine, skill, is a former WBO champ, and i think would expose a lot of the issues with Dubois if given a chance. He and Usyk would be a great fight, both are technically skilled and about the same size. Fury is probably finished if he loses or wins against Usyk.
Glad to see almost all the comments aren’t ready to call it quits on AJ. The boxing community respects guys going into the ring to fight the best and test themselves. I believe guys like AJ, Haney, Spence, etc. can still come back after a bad night out. Lennox Lewis the greatest heavyweight of all time got KO’d twice in his career and avenged both losses. Arturo Gatti came back and won the rematch against Ward after their first fight. Cotto vs Margarito. The list goes on. Not to mention Daniel Dubois himself!
I still think AJ has much higher potential than he showed in this fight. He had the fitness and technical capability to show up to the first round well prepared, with good defensive drills fresh in his mind. Instead he was slow, defensively irresponsible and got dropped in the first round. After that he tried to course correct, yet still had a plan to solve his early issues by landing a huge punch. It doesn’t matter if that was bad corner advice or his personal misjudgement, as both could be solved by good coaching. I don’t think any fundamental weakness was exposed here. I see this as a recent regression, or lack of progression and bad planning. If AJ can and is willing to fight, he should still have just enough name and fights left to get there. Wilder has a huge fundamental flaw in his technique. Fury showed big signs of slowing down and has a a rather big, unresolved question on his conditioning and shape. For AJ his chin could be similar fundamental question, but he did pretty good job at getting up. Unless the punishment he took this fight significantly weakens his chin (a very real possibility), he can fix his first issue of poor defensive strategy and risk management much more easily than Wilder can learn solid enough fundamentals to keep up with olympic contestants, or Fury can improve his conditioning and cope with slowing reaction speed.
Saying Tyson lost in ‘horrible fashion’ is a pretty awful take. One bad round isn’t a horrible loss. If anything you have to give credit for recovering.
I think I heard somewhere, you are as good as your last fight...so I think AJ still has a long career ahead, he just has to go back to the drawing table, and build back his stock. I remember after destroying Ngannou, his stock went up and everyone was singing praises. He just has to win fights, plus there are still money fights left for him like Fury, Wilder, Zhang, Bakole, though some might appear dangerous at the moment. As long as he is not taking much damage in his fights, i think it's too early for him to retire.
We previously ranked the heavyweight based on mythical matchups. We didn't know how good any of them were cause the top guys were rarely fighting each other. Wilder is the best example for this, he had 10 title defenses and was consistently ranked top 3 but if we're honest, he never beat anyone good. He fought a bunch of handpicked guys who were no good until he fought Fury. Now with Turki in boxing, all heavyweights are fighting each other and we now know pretty well how good those guys actually are. Almost everyone has lost his 0 and that happens if you're going into (on paper) 50-50 fights.
Anthony Joshua is finished at the top level. Joshua's 300 million Nigerian fanboys, several boxing TH-camrs, biased analysts like Johnny Nelson, Spencer Fearon, Tony Bellew etc are in mourning. Joshua's Nigerian fanboys have been hiding since DDD slept him. They have been hating on Wilder, Fury and DDD for years 😂
guess what when the best fight the best sometimes youre gna lose if we the fans keep acting like bell ends and telling people to retire every time they lose then we will stop getting the best fights its simple imagine if when ali lost to frazier people told him to retire and he did how many great fights we would have been denied. yeah ok joshua might not be the best heavyweight on the planet right now but what he is and pretty much has been his entire career is value for money in terms of delivering entertainment. theres still plenty of fights for him wilder, fury if fury loses again to usyk, big zhang, hell id even like to see a dubois rematch cos it was a cracking fight while it lasted.
This generation isn’t “unskilled”, comparatively speaking, they’re about as bad as any other generation. Since the heavyweight limit has moved to 200+ it’s been filled with 99% bums and then a few Tyson’s or Lenox’s might be sprinkled in. It’s just the nature of combat sports that the skill is all in the lower divisions.
Claiming that Fury lost in horrible fashion isnt true at all. It was a very technical fight between two of the greatest Boxers of recent times. Especially in the middle of the fight it looked like Fury could win. Usyk was the better man, but Fury showed great boxing skills in that fight aswell.
AJ done good for starting boxing late. But it's kinda sad how his career has gone. Every chance he had to make the next step to the top of the division/greatness, he failed. His big American debut at MSG? Got beat by a fat Mexican kid nobody had ever heard of. Defending his titles against a skilled southpaw and proving he's a good boxer himself? Gets worked by Usyk twice and has no real ideas for how to beat him. Gets another shot at the title which would make him a 3-time champ and eventually get him a shot at Fury or Usyk for Undisputed and what happens? Has the worst night of his life in the ring and boxes terribly and stupidly. Now his legacy is that he made a ton of money and at least was better than Wilder. Shame.
Usyk beating Joshua and Dubois doesn't say that Usyk is great, it says this generation of heavyweights was weak to begin with!! As I've said for some time now
Usyk fans way overrate the guy. He struggled against Chisora, he was arguably stopped by Dubois, he was lucky to have a draw against AJ and Fury..... but Usyk fans act like he's from a different stratosphere 😂 Modern heavyweights have a trash work rate.... imagine what ATG heavyweights like Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Bowe, etc would have done to him
I genuinely wish the best for the guy. I've never been a huge AJ fan, but not even because I don't like him as a person, its just the glazing for him is insane and I think he's a bit overrated. His mental health has a big impact on his performance, and it makes him volatile. I'd have a lot of respect for him if he embraced his status as a gatekeeper, nothing wrong with that. Guys like Rosado get a lot of respect from the public, even with a ton of losses. AJ has the resilience to give some of the up and comers a good fight, but his days at the top of the pack are over, and its hard to accept, but he should. He's been a champion, and I don't think he has anymore to prove in that aspect, but he now has a great chance to maintain the respect of the heavyweight division by filtering who gets to be an elite.
I don't think Joshua understands the long guard. Just putting your arm out isn't enough. You have to actually use it to parry and tuck your head while raising your shoulder. Otherwise people just punch right over the top of it and it does nothing. Watch how Klitschko and Foreman used their long guards. That's what Joshua THINKS he's doing. But he has it all wrong.
i would love to have seen Tyson Fury vs a prime Lennox Lewis to show what a truly skilled "big man" heavyweight can do because he was slick and fury got no power his punches look like a little girl flailing just got decent movement and blistering hand speed
Nothing more can be added to the comments made byTJlovesFights. It has always been obvious to me that AJ does not fare well against capable pressure fighters (Ruiz, Usyk etc.) Daniel Dubois employed the right tactics by dominating the pace and applying the pressure (no mean feat) against the very good and big hitting heavyweight AJ. If he chose to stand off and jab sharing in AJ's pace he would have lost. Controlling the tempo of a fight is an important tactic as exempified by the legendary Muhammed Ali who would change the pace up and down to suit himself and confuse his opponent.
I think AJ has shown quite a improvement throughout his career but this time he kind of regressed It reminded me of his first fight Andy Ruiz.That time he went to short range against a guy with T-Rex arms. This time he didn’t incorporate back step and elbow block with long guard for some reason.
I bet this Tj guy also says Mike Tyson is one of the greatest boxers ever. Who is as big as Fury and moves like him? Wilder has one of the greates ko power ever. To say that this era is bad is delusional.
His career isn't over. Damn. Man gets a KO loss and you act like it's over. George Foreman got KO'd by Ali, came back decades later and won a title. It's over when they say it's over, not the fans.
Great video I thought that AJ vs Dubois fight was very exciting whilst it lasted AJ and Wilder are washed. If Usyk beats Fury again Fury also maybe washed
Lmao you can tell the people who run these sport commentary pages usually never participated in any sports at any level their whole life the way they jump to conclusions after one bad performance. Especially the combat sport commentators are usually the most unathletic keyboard warriors, mma fans are the biggest glazers 😂😂😂
The comment I wanted to see, ngl maybe it’s cause I am biased cause AJ is my favorite boxer, but I believe in a rematch he beats Dubois, cause after the fight he literally said "chin in the air, hands down, kaboom" he knew what he did wrong. He’s going to go back to the drawing board and he’s going to come back like he always does. He had his hands up and a good Gard against ngannou just for an example. Just that he underestimated Dubois
I was so sure AJ would win I didn't even watch the fight to be honest. When I heard the news, the first thing that came to my mind was "Oh fuck, his career is over".
He will more than likely rematch Dubois. So i dont his career is over. Most boxing fans wouldn't even mind seeing him take on Wilder before he calls it a day 💯👌
I actually disagree on the smaller fighters with great footwork stuff. They dont even need to have great footwork, Ruiz has absolutley shit footwork. He is like a tortoise in the ring, but has lightning fast hands. AJ has always relied on his ability to shut out an opponents offense completley. All of his dominant fights have been because his opponents have been unable to fire back at all because AJ is so opressive when hes fighting well and fighting agressive. The mimute someone is able to fire back either at his range, or at a range that makes him uncomfortable, he freezes. Not to mention his headmovement is woeful, he cannot dodge combinations. He can dodge 1 or 2 punches but any time an opponent throws punches in bunches AJ either shells up and freezes, or gets rocked and doesnt return fire.
Teddy was right all along AJ is good but also overrated. He never should've lost to Andy Ruiz Jr. & he should've given Daniel a better fight. I could never see him beating Oleksandr Uysk regardless but who can.
To me you gotta give respect to fury he by faaar had the closest fight to usyk he won 6 rounds lost 6 and lost because of that round 9 it was a deserved loss but he showed if he improves his focus and stamina he could at least pull a draw and mind you this is an out of prime fury
6:40 this reminds me of something, hmm.. 🤔 (Dana White getting asked about Islam's p4p ranking and sufdenly puts Jon Jone's in the conversation out of context)😂
Usyk might be the best of this generation, but that's not saying much!! Most of today's heavyweights aren't good fighters at all.. Usyk is good, but not an all time great
Usyk went "fuck the big 3, its just big me" 😂
The Big 1!
he's very feel about this
The Big 3 (Joshua, Wilder, and Fury) all losing in 2024
Fury lost to Undisputed champion Usyk in one of the biggest fights in boxing. Joshua got sparked out by DDD who went life and death against Kevin Lerena and got stopped by Joyce
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma you seem to also forget that people who don’t live in their basement can make improvements and change their mistakes 😭 put some gloves on brother
dude's a troll lol@@akid6524
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma yeah and fury lost to John McDermott 😂
allegedly this guys were unbeatable 😅 it is time to witness new era
Make a video on how:
- Beterbiev beats Bivol
- Bivol beats Beterbiev
And then a video on how: Belal Muhuammad beats both with his Canelo like boxing
@@richcantgame Goatlal’s wrestling and durability would be too much for Bivol and Beterbiev
Why not make a video on wnba while on it?
Bivol beat Beterbiev by fight how he normally fights. Bivol likes to throw shotgun combinations at different angles and then tie up Beterbiev when he gets too close.
@@richcantgamethe striking, the grappling, the wrassling
this bs of one loss "spelling the end of someons career " is why top boxers rarely fight each other,in ufc people lose and bounce back,writing somonme off after one loss is holding people up to an unreasonable standard
@@tm-zn9kr 4 times now.
Because in the UFC, fighters usually don't cherry pick their opponents. So losing is not that much out of the realm of possibility. Very different from boxing.
@SimplyThatGuy12 still unrealistic ali lost 5 times and hes still great
Yeah,you lose a few times and you get simply written off as exposed or over.
@@rorschach5510 Maybe that's because Ali never got beat by a fat contender or was knocked out brutally like Joshua was. Ali had a granite chin and he went the distance 4 out of his 5 losses.
I like you TJ but you're too much of a bandwagoner, if any fighter X loses or wins we can await your video on how "X career is over" / "No current fighter comes close to X". NOW I do understand doing this on the thumbnail, to get people to click, but the video needs to be more than this. It is clear to anyone that Anthony did get better since losing to Usyk, and at the same time he was worse than Dubois yesterday, who is a very good fighter. I don't know where he's career is going, I'm not even a big fan, but saying he is a one trick poney and that he never learned from old mistakes is simply not true.
Wait, someone who doesn't immediately jump to "so and so is complete trash" after a loss, and "bla bla is unstoppable" after 1 win
In TJ's defense, TH-cam pretty much requires clickbait titles and thumbnails to keep channels relevant.
Besides, TJ said himself that Joshua is 34 years old and still has really good fights left in him. But Dubois is still in his 20's and just schooled Joshua, and the other young bucks are making their way up every week.
Joshua can win another major title, but he'd need to go on a winning streak and then figure out a way to beat these shorter guys.
He's more of an MMA fan than boxing fan so expect mainstream, casual takes
Well said too many TH-cam guys using the word washed too much. Absolutely no clue 🤡
@@Spectonimoushis MMA takes are ripped from other people. Guy channels Shwaubisms left right and centre.
You talk in absolutes/extremes too much. Of course AJ’s career isn’t over. We need to get over telling fighters too quit after a loss. I hate it and I think videos like yours with clickbait titles are bad for the boxing community
I ain’t no AJ dickrider either. I just like great fights.
Yeah it's really quite nauseating just because a fighter has an L. It just means they took actually risky fights.
Yeah this is what causes fighters to be shy & avoid competition
He’s past his prime. Lost by knockout. Fighters who get knocked out like that never recover.
Read my mind, i fully agree. He did the same thing with izzy. Fighters win and fighters lose. Losing isnt abnormal, win/undefeated streaks are. We have just gotten used to all these undefeated fighters
Y'all wanted the best to fight each other. Low and behold someone has to lose. The jump the gun mentality is crazy
I don’t think AJ’s career is done. He needs to finally face Wilder and later Fury in 2025 (whether he wins or loses to Usyk in the rematch). Then he can go for the Dubois rematch
Lol. If Fury beats Undisputed champion Usyk and becomes a unified champion, he ain't going to fight Anthony Joshua. Joshua has no belt, no mandatory position and 4 losses on his record 😂
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma V true, Fury will duck even harder now, as per usual. Barely got him to fight Usyk after 2 years, he'd retire immediately, there'd be no 3rd usyk fight if he somehow scrapes a win. No chance he's fighting DD
@@dethdaemon Fury-Usyk Undisputed was the quickest made mega-fight in recent boxing history. Joshua ducked Usyk for 2 years and petitioned IBF to move forward the Pulev mandatory in 2020. He kept talking about dropping the WBO belt and only agreed to fight Usyk after watching him struggle with Chisora
@@dethdaemon Filip Hrgovic called out Anthony Joshua in August 2022 on IFL. He said,"I want to fight Anthony Joshua. It's better money".
Anthony Joshua ducked IBF mandatory Hrgovic to fight a factory worker, old man and his sparring partner
As if Joshua gonna win those fights. He's done... exposed. He can't fight fighters who put pressure on him. The Ruiz 2 fight is because Ruiz was a dumbass for getting his new fame and riches to his head. Dubois ain't no lazy Ruiz. Joshua is one of the overrated fighters together with Wilder, who also can't fight someone who puts pressure on him.
AJ had his hands down and had no head movement. I have no idea how to box. But even I was seeing some of the amatuar mistakes he was making, I was so confused at what he was doing when watching live
tbf he had his bell rung from the first knockdown and never really recovered. Bro literally forgot how to box.
@@Kancerru I don't think anybody would have recovered from taking a clean straight heavy right hand from a heavyweight.
Relied too much on distance
@@proboxer8916 Wilder and Fury took multiple KO shots from each other and kept coming back. Anthony Joshua has a glass chin and he's mentally weak. Ruiz and Dubois exposed the hypejob
@@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma Say what you want about his chin, but you can't call him mentally weak after getting up every time in this fight. He was even trying to get up while unconscious, ass in the air!
This is the problem with combat sports these days. A guy loses, and "his career is over," "he was overrated." On and on and on. People have been twisted by the story of Mayweather. They think fighters who are good should never lose. Anthony has had the same issues in every fight. He's won a bunch of fights, and we need to stop beating guys down for losing a fight.
Exactly. Damn
I hate how a lot is people keep saying These fighters should retire retire after they have a loss, there’s still a lot of fights I would like to see, but if we keep saying they should retire after they lose then what would be the point of watching sports?
I know this video is about AJ, but...How did Fury lose in "horrible fashion"?
I'm not even a Fury fan, but he had a good fight with Usyk - that loss was anything but horrible fashion. Had trouble in round 9 sure, but that was an overall good performance by him. I like you, but a lot of times you have unbelievably shitty takes. No offense.
Yeah, I think that too, fury had a great match against usyk, he won many rounds and was the only one to put the ukranian in real danger.
His loss is nowhere comparable to the shitty performances joshua and wilder had in their last match.
Tj doesnt know boxing very well he only reports on clickbait material
He got dropped by MMA guy which wasn't a good look for him then got schooled by Usyk looking his belt and possibly looking again in the rematch if he doesn't fix his flaws
Fury won 3 rounds against Usyk and the ref stopped him from being knocked out. AJ the other night touched down both hands and was kept up by the ropes but still no knockdown, imagine what would have happened if Usyk was allowed another punch against Fury. Fury is OK, he’s not a great, not a hall of famer, just someone that played the boxing game well and tricked people
To me horrible fashion can only be if u get knocked out or lose every round , which fury didn’t have either happen to him . Hats off to usyk tho one on the best to ever do it
How is this the end of AJs career? 😂
Career at the top of the division is a more accurate title for his actual opinion in the video I think.
Losing is a huge part of boxing. It’s crazy how that’s supposedly the end of everything in the peoples minds
when you forget how to box, you start to question their position
@@gardensaladdude90 it depends on how big the ko is. like tony ferguson took a brutal one and fans wrote him off. but canelo lost to floyd,ggg, bivol and no one cares cause its not a brutal ko. joshua and wilder took big kos. its over for them. stop now before your brain turns to mush.
@@johnmarkson1990 getting KO'd and dominated badly wont necessarily hurt the brain more than repeated non-concussive blows do, it'll however hurt confidence and a great part of being elite is just having a predator-mindset
I see it too often that a guy gets flatlined once and then spends the entirety of his remaining career fighting overly defensively and shy overall
1:38 McGregor losing his shit in the background lmao
The guy sitting behind him (who probably paid thousands of pounds for that seat) must have been pissed lol
Just because he lost, does not mean he is over. In UFC one loss does tarnish a fighters legacy. It was a poor performance but he CAN come back and still do well. Dubois came back from big losses to Usyk and Joyce so don't doubt him just yet.
he is over as the paper champ. and the fake spin is over. It should have been over when Ruiz demolished him on his USA debut. but now this. Zhang and Wilder would beat him senseless.
TH-camrs gonna click bait. What else is new?
it's not over but is he on the decline? 🤔
@@Ready4Head He was a hype job. good enough to beat good competition but avoided the best. but got paid like he was the best of the best.
@@fruit4health329paper champ? He beat world champions to get his titles my dude.
nah bro, L vid on this one. AJ's career is safe until he loses 1-2 more on a row, you forget hes a legend with saudi money behind him. if he loses 2 more times yeah then hes finished. but saying that his career is finished is a L
His career is finished in a sense unless he beats dubois in a trilogy and beats the winner of fury usyk his legacy isn't as tarnished as Wilder's but it's pretty damn close aj has gotten exposed pretty much every huge fight except dinosaur Klitschko
He is 34,got koed bad,showed no improvements,looked slower than ever before
Anthony Joshua's career is finished at the top level. He is on the same level as Wilder and Dillian Whyte.
Usyk is the Undisputed champion. DDD, Fury, Usyk will fight each other for the no. 1 position
AJ got ko badly 34 years old. Career is over in terms of being at the top having all the belts
Anthony Joshua is a protected fighter. The ref Marcus McDonnell tried to save him from Dubois' beat down. Howard Foster and Steve Grey were two of the judges for AJ Vs DDD. They both tried to rob Usyk against Anthony Joshua. Ref Luis Pabon allowed Anthony Joshua to hit Usyk with 20 lowblows, rabbit punch in the 9th and shoulder slam in the 12th
we gotta give Dynamite Dubois more credit here
Wow, you managed to make a video without a 10 minute ad!
Chisora only gas two fights before retirement gon need a video on the Greatest journeyman delboy when he retires really fought everyone
I could see AJ getting a belt if Usyk retires separating the belts again
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
I’m not sure why, but the capstone of how crazy this year of boxing has been would be seeing Fury beat Usyk. That’d just go to show how unpredictable this sport truly can be, and it’s truly a possibility in my eyes.
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I don't think that Tyson Fury lost on a horrendous way as you say. The fight was very close until he got caught in round 9. But he was winning some rounds until then. When seeing it live, I thought that he was coming back after losing the early rounds but still a very close fight it was.
But yeah, Wilder and Joshua got beaten pretty badly though.
I knew it wasn’t going to well for Joshua in the first 5 seconds of the first round
AJ vs Wild can and should still happen.
There still AJ vs Fury, vs Joyce, vs Zhang, vs Hrgovic, or vs Bakole
Isn't the end of his career, he'll be back and I bet he takes the rematch. He was obviously overcome with anxiety, not himself. If he is himself he beats Dubois. Being back at Wembley, 98k breaking records, people telling him he had to win or his career is over, the Dubois spar, all got to him. Not good and that should not have happened, but he'll be back without a doubt.
How did Fury lose horribly?
It was a one point loss.
I cant believe Anthony Joshua hired Lee Wylie of all people, made him take down all his videos, and he still lost to Dubois and Usyk
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He lost one fight that’ll likely get a rematch talking about an end to his career like chill out
It's over. He lost badly against Dubios he is never winning a belt again.
I don’t think it’s the end of his career but more like his chances of getting the belt.
its kinda crazy how dubois predicted almost all of Joshua's moves
Anthony Joshua landed 3 decent punches on DDD in the entire fight. Dubois cracked AJ's chin with 50 hard shots, dropped him 4 times and sparked him out😂
Why would this loss end his career? There is so many fights to make and he's such a big name.
One that nobody is talking about is Jospeh Parker. He has wins over Ruiz, Wilder, Chisora, zhang, and his loss to AJ is an embarrassment to boxing. The ref completely stopped Parker from using any kind of offense. Ive never seen anything like it. Parker has an engine, skill, is a former WBO champ, and i think would expose a lot of the issues with Dubois if given a chance. He and Usyk would be a great fight, both are technically skilled and about the same size. Fury is probably finished if he loses or wins against Usyk.
Glad to see almost all the comments aren’t ready to call it quits on AJ. The boxing community respects guys going into the ring to fight the best and test themselves. I believe guys like AJ, Haney, Spence, etc. can still come back after a bad night out. Lennox Lewis the greatest heavyweight of all time got KO’d twice in his career and avenged both losses. Arturo Gatti came back and won the rematch against Ward after their first fight. Cotto vs Margarito. The list goes on. Not to mention Daniel Dubois himself!
AJ is a glass jaw bum
This makes Brendan Schaub's comments about Tyson Fury being the best ever even funnier
Crazy thing is that both Usyk and Zhang are OLDER than the previous generation of HWs
Bro why you got the basic overused thumbnails?
I still think AJ has much higher potential than he showed in this fight. He had the fitness and technical capability to show up to the first round well prepared, with good defensive drills fresh in his mind. Instead he was slow, defensively irresponsible and got dropped in the first round.
After that he tried to course correct, yet still had a plan to solve his early issues by landing a huge punch. It doesn’t matter if that was bad corner advice or his personal misjudgement, as both could be solved by good coaching.
I don’t think any fundamental weakness was exposed here. I see this as a recent regression, or lack of progression and bad planning. If AJ can and is willing to fight, he should still have just enough name and fights left to get there.
Wilder has a huge fundamental flaw in his technique. Fury showed big signs of slowing down and has a a rather big, unresolved question on his conditioning and shape. For AJ his chin could be similar fundamental question, but he did pretty good job at getting up. Unless the punishment he took this fight significantly weakens his chin (a very real possibility), he can fix his first issue of poor defensive strategy and risk management much more easily than Wilder can learn solid enough fundamentals to keep up with olympic contestants, or Fury can improve his conditioning and cope with slowing reaction speed.
The thumbnail aj smiling after losing😂
With Dubois being the new fav this surely isn't anywhere close to the end of the Legend AJ
Saying Tyson lost in ‘horrible fashion’ is a pretty awful take. One bad round isn’t a horrible loss. If anything you have to give credit for recovering.
I think I heard somewhere, you are as good as your last fight...so I think AJ still has a long career ahead, he just has to go back to the drawing table, and build back his stock. I remember after destroying Ngannou, his stock went up and everyone was singing praises. He just has to win fights, plus there are still money fights left for him like Fury, Wilder, Zhang, Bakole, though some might appear dangerous at the moment. As long as he is not taking much damage in his fights, i think it's too early for him to retire.
We previously ranked the heavyweight based on mythical matchups. We didn't know how good any of them were cause the top guys were rarely fighting each other. Wilder is the best example for this, he had 10 title defenses and was consistently ranked top 3 but if we're honest, he never beat anyone good. He fought a bunch of handpicked guys who were no good until he fought Fury.
Now with Turki in boxing, all heavyweights are fighting each other and we now know pretty well how good those guys actually are. Almost everyone has lost his 0 and that happens if you're going into (on paper) 50-50 fights.
Not gonna lie when Dubois hit AJ with that low blow i was pissed because I legit thought he was about to fumble the bag 😂
Please cover the Bicol vs beterbiev fight
imma keep it real with you chief; your boxing takes are kinda bad.
how so?
I have to agree with him on this one but yeah sometimes his takes are pretty shit...
I like Boxing but there are multiple issues
If we follow that logic, then the top nine heavyweights should also retire 😅
Yeah boxing fans are toxic af
Anthony Joshua is finished at the top level. Joshua's 300 million Nigerian fanboys, several boxing TH-camrs, biased analysts like Johnny Nelson, Spencer Fearon, Tony Bellew etc are in mourning. Joshua's Nigerian fanboys have been hiding since DDD slept him. They have been hating on Wilder, Fury and DDD for years 😂
@Anthony.Joshua-s_Irish_Grandma bro grow up every video with anthony joshua ur commenting
@@kyle1493 Femi fanboys were sending me death threats before AJ got humiliated by DDD. Now all of them have disappeared 🤣
guess what when the best fight the best sometimes youre gna lose if we the fans keep acting like bell ends and telling people to retire every time they lose then we will stop getting the best fights its simple imagine if when ali lost to frazier people told him to retire and he did how many great fights we would have been denied. yeah ok joshua might not be the best heavyweight on the planet right now but what he is and pretty much has been his entire career is value for money in terms of delivering entertainment. theres still plenty of fights for him wilder, fury if fury loses again to usyk, big zhang, hell id even like to see a dubois rematch cos it was a cracking fight while it lasted.
This generation isn’t “unskilled”, comparatively speaking, they’re about as bad as any other generation. Since the heavyweight limit has moved to 200+ it’s been filled with 99% bums and then a few Tyson’s or Lenox’s might be sprinkled in. It’s just the nature of combat sports that the skill is all in the lower divisions.
Claiming that Fury lost in horrible fashion isnt true at all. It was a very technical fight between two of the greatest Boxers of recent times. Especially in the middle of the fight it looked like Fury could win. Usyk was the better man, but Fury showed great boxing skills in that fight aswell.
Usyk deadass cooked the big 3 of the heavyweight division he's gonna go down as one of the goats
AJ done good for starting boxing late. But it's kinda sad how his career has gone. Every chance he had to make the next step to the top of the division/greatness, he failed. His big American debut at MSG? Got beat by a fat Mexican kid nobody had ever heard of. Defending his titles against a skilled southpaw and proving he's a good boxer himself? Gets worked by Usyk twice and has no real ideas for how to beat him. Gets another shot at the title which would make him a 3-time champ and eventually get him a shot at Fury or Usyk for Undisputed and what happens? Has the worst night of his life in the ring and boxes terribly and stupidly. Now his legacy is that he made a ton of money and at least was better than Wilder. Shame.
Usyk beating Joshua and Dubois doesn't say that Usyk is great, it says this generation of heavyweights was weak to begin with!!
As I've said for some time now
Usyk fans way overrate the guy. He struggled against Chisora, he was arguably stopped by Dubois, he was lucky to have a draw against AJ and Fury..... but Usyk fans act like he's from a different stratosphere 😂
Modern heavyweights have a trash work rate.... imagine what ATG heavyweights like Tyson, Holyfield, Lennox Lewis, Bowe, etc would have done to him
no matter how hard life gets, keep your chin up.
EXCEPT, if you are in the boxing ring Joshua!
Listen up KEEP YOUR CHIN DOWN AND HANDS UP.
Tyson fury is not overrated lol. He was schooling Usyk until he got popped. He also schooled Klitschko.
I genuinely wish the best for the guy. I've never been a huge AJ fan, but not even because I don't like him as a person, its just the glazing for him is insane and I think he's a bit overrated. His mental health has a big impact on his performance, and it makes him volatile. I'd have a lot of respect for him if he embraced his status as a gatekeeper, nothing wrong with that. Guys like Rosado get a lot of respect from the public, even with a ton of losses. AJ has the resilience to give some of the up and comers a good fight, but his days at the top of the pack are over, and its hard to accept, but he should. He's been a champion, and I don't think he has anymore to prove in that aspect, but he now has a great chance to maintain the respect of the heavyweight division by filtering who gets to be an elite.
I don't think Joshua understands the long guard. Just putting your arm out isn't enough. You have to actually use it to parry and tuck your head while raising your shoulder. Otherwise people just punch right over the top of it and it does nothing. Watch how Klitschko and Foreman used their long guards. That's what Joshua THINKS he's doing. But he has it all wrong.
Joshua was never dominant...So he will never be considered great...Klitschko was dominant..while boring..Tyson was dominant..Usyk will be great
Fuk u mean Usyk will be just "great" he already stomped fury bro
zhilei zhang is not the “new generation” he’s about 2 years from retirement
I had to laugh when AJ, sat on his stool after the fourth said, “He is shit” 😂.
What generation is Usyk? hes 3 years older than Joshua.
Usyk is a generational talent? By saying this heavyweight division isn’t skilled you literally diminish the person you’re trying to say is good.
I don't see how this is the end of his career
Tbh I don’t know why everyone thought this was an easy fight aj had nothing but easy fights since he’s lost to usyk and he has a glass chin
i would love to have seen Tyson Fury vs a prime Lennox Lewis to show what a truly skilled "big man" heavyweight can do because he was slick and fury got no power his punches look like a little girl flailing just got decent movement and blistering hand speed
Nothing more can be added to the comments made byTJlovesFights. It has always been obvious to me that AJ does not fare well against capable pressure fighters (Ruiz, Usyk etc.) Daniel Dubois employed the right tactics by dominating the pace and applying the pressure (no mean feat) against the very good and big hitting heavyweight AJ. If he chose to stand off and jab sharing in AJ's pace he would have lost. Controlling the tempo of a fight is an important tactic as exempified by the legendary Muhammed Ali who would change the pace up and down to suit himself and confuse his opponent.
I think AJ has shown quite a improvement throughout his career but this time he kind of regressed
It reminded me of his first fight Andy Ruiz.That time he went to short range against a guy with T-Rex arms.
This time he didn’t incorporate back step and elbow block with long guard for some reason.
I bet this Tj guy also says Mike Tyson is one of the greatest boxers ever. Who is as big as Fury and moves like him? Wilder has one of the greates ko power ever. To say that this era is bad is delusional.
This era is great but Tyson would beat Fury, Wilder and Joshua
@@AB-fr2ei Does that mean also Buster Douglas would have?
@@MikeG77701 maybe
@@AB-fr2ei okay
His career isn't over. Damn. Man gets a KO loss and you act like it's over. George Foreman got KO'd by Ali, came back decades later and won a title. It's over when they say it's over, not the fans.
Respectfully I think you’re blowing the Fury loss out of proportion, Usyk won a split decision
AJ's career isn't over lol. Neither is Fury's, Wilder's or any fighters that have lost. Whatever happened to losing means you're fighting the best?
Great video I thought that AJ vs Dubois fight was very exciting whilst it lasted AJ and Wilder are washed. If Usyk beats Fury again Fury also maybe washed
I still think Tyson Fury is one of the greatest heavyweights we’ve ever seen.
Is Hrgovic better than Joshua?
Lmao you can tell the people who run these sport commentary pages usually never participated in any sports at any level their whole life the way they jump to conclusions after one bad performance. Especially the combat sport commentators are usually the most unathletic keyboard warriors, mma fans are the biggest glazers 😂😂😂
The comment I wanted to see, ngl maybe it’s cause I am biased cause AJ is my favorite boxer, but I believe in a rematch he beats Dubois, cause after the fight he literally said "chin in the air, hands down, kaboom" he knew what he did wrong. He’s going to go back to the drawing board and he’s going to come back like he always does. He had his hands up and a good Gard against ngannou just for an example. Just that he underestimated Dubois
Zhang is 41, he is in no way part of the new gen lol he's definitely on his way out sooner than AJ would be.
Crazy how he did same shit (underestimating) to Ruiz, and hasn’t learned his lesson😂
I was so sure AJ would win I didn't even watch the fight to be honest. When I heard the news, the first thing that came to my mind was "Oh fuck, his career is over".
If recency bias was personified.
He will more than likely rematch Dubois. So i dont his career is over.
Most boxing fans wouldn't even mind seeing him take on Wilder before he calls it a day 💯👌
Mate this generation was highly skilled but you’re a casual boxing fan who thinks Ali foreman Frazier and Tyson were more skilled
You cant really use his win against Nganou to prove anything
I actually disagree on the smaller fighters with great footwork stuff.
They dont even need to have great footwork, Ruiz has absolutley shit footwork. He is like a tortoise in the ring, but has lightning fast hands.
AJ has always relied on his ability to shut out an opponents offense completley. All of his dominant fights have been because his opponents have been unable to fire back at all because AJ is so opressive when hes fighting well and fighting agressive.
The mimute someone is able to fire back either at his range, or at a range that makes him uncomfortable, he freezes.
Not to mention his headmovement is woeful, he cannot dodge combinations. He can dodge 1 or 2 punches but any time an opponent throws punches in bunches AJ either shells up and freezes, or gets rocked and doesnt return fire.
How is losing to the elite the end of your career
As soon as he said pray for me I took DDD at 5/1 for the KO
Teddy was right all along AJ is good but also overrated. He never should've lost to Andy Ruiz Jr. & he should've given Daniel a better fight. I could never see him beating Oleksandr Uysk regardless but who can.
Honestly he's been cooked for 5 years. He should beat 4 nobodies and retire on a win
Joshua Vs Wilder...unskilled power vs somewhat skilled spoiled brat...
Can you really count Francis?
To me you gotta give respect to fury he by faaar had the closest fight to usyk he won 6 rounds lost 6 and lost because of that round 9 it was a deserved loss but he showed if he improves his focus and stamina he could at least pull a draw and mind you this is an out of prime fury
The new big 3 is zhilei zhang , usyk and dubois
6:40 this reminds me of something, hmm.. 🤔
(Dana White getting asked about Islam's p4p ranking and sufdenly puts Jon Jone's in the conversation out of context)😂
Call me crazy but I still want to see Joshua vs wilder
Anthony Joshua vs. Andy Ruiz 3
Tyson fury didn't lost horribly. It was a good fight. Usky was deserving of win.
Usyk might be the best of this generation, but that's not saying much!!
Most of today's heavyweights aren't good fighters at all..
Usyk is good, but not an all time great
AJ needs to learn how to box like a real boxer.