Can we also appreciate the irony that this video is video number 404 for your channel 😅 "404 response Not Found" your channel profile says you have 404 videos
@@Shark-fj2sz "person makes the most straight forward video about what they experienced" TH-cam commenters: "wow what great journalism" Meanwhile actual real journalism gets brushed aside as MSM propaganda
@@bluebell1yeah it’s bad either way. But a bad product might help the ceo keep his job instead of no product. Investors usually don’t know shit about the tech they’re investing in
This product always was a hoax. They tried to fake it till you make it, but it’s to difficult to make it. Honestly, if this would be a realistic thing to produce, Apple or Meta would already be doing it
Everyone is rushing announcements in anticipation for Meta’s announcements next week. Vive, Snap & Visor all announced stuff that’s not ready this week
Good video, as usual. While I didn't make the trip to Austin, I was on the live feed. It was truly a letdown. I"m a very happy Immersed user on my Q3 and had high hopes for the Visor. I'm still hopeful that it comes as described. But I'm glad I didn't pre-order. Thanks for what you do. As a new VR fan and user, at age 63, I've learned quite a bit from your videos.
Great unbiased reporting, as a marketer, it’s exactly as I expected - they over promised and tried to build up the hype and pre order sales, but the truth is the fundamental technology for achieving that form factor is not there yet. It literally looks like packaged quest 3 trying to make it smaller but it really didnt work
It’s telling that they are comfortable with using the “lure people in” phrasing thinking it isn’t a sussy AF bait and switch instead just some misunderstood reasoning by the uninitiated that need to be explained as if to a child.
I think companies like Xreal are doing a much better job. Seeing the red marks on your face, it almost feels like wearing a VR headset but without the comfort. At least you were able to turn your wasted time into something productive by making a video about the product. In that way, what was a personal disappointment became valuable information for your followers. Well done!
thank you for your fair, honest and professional coverage of this event, despite the experience being extremely disappointing your response is wonderfully level headed, thoughtful, thorough and well put. i've subbed to stay in the loop with any information you may uncover and i'm sure you have and look forward to seeing you in some great reports in the meanwhile.
I just noticed that in the company videos that most users are looking up slightly while wearing the Visor. Now we know why. LOL. To keep it from falling off. Thanks Tetiana. Not holding my breath now waiting for this. It reminds me EXACTLY of the Sony HMZ-T1. It was front heavy nightmare that felt like a torture device when you wear it. Although the hmz-t1 was much heavier, it looks like it wears identical as the visor.
This, on top of them blocking people on social media and deleting criticism on their subreddit, makes it abundantly clear to me how this is a company that had the best of intentions but has an ego problem. They can't be told they're wrong, they refuse to be realistic about expectations, and they are overly ambitious to the point of underdelivering on everything thus far. You wanna root for the little guy and more competition, but Immersed has sadly made it abundantly clear that they aren't the ones to do it.
Exactly! And one more red flag: them constantly changing their business models. They started as a subscription app (fine by me, I was even a paying customer), then veering off towards crypto grifting with virtual real-estate and then, when this did not work out, going into the hardware business and neglecting the app itself. Oh, and one more thing: their idiotic decision to force the users to physically unplug any additional monitors from their PCs. They could've simply limited the app to just use one monitor, but, according to Renji, that would be very difficult to implement. If _that_ is difficult for them, why should people trust their hundreds of dollars with such a company?
Thank you for this video. While I also hope Visor will one day reached its desired potential, there are too many red flags to ignore at the present time. I have put in a request to cancel my Founder’s Edition preorder as I only did that so that I could hopefully get the product sometime this year. I don’t think Visor is anywhere close to release, and that preorder money could be better used in other areas of my life. I bought a product. I never intended to invest in a Kickstarter. I hope now that they abide by the conditions of the preorder and provide a full refund.
Tetiana, this was such an amazing video, well aligned with exactly how I felt about the whole event even when I was watching it virtually. Thank you for your professionalism and honestly about your own experience. We need more people like you in XR, great work and I am also rooting for Immersed to show a functional demo in the near future, but this event really gave me a bad impression about them as a company.
Thank you for watching and for your kind words! I always maintain an optimistic view and am always willing to give a benefit of a doubt, especially given a good track record with the app. Time will tell🤞
GREAT review , I was a founder buyer, asked Renji about 6m ago about release date and got blocked, since then I have seen multiple red flags , using the glasses mock ups to market right up to launch when it's clearly not possibly, and now this non-demo demo is the biggest . They are playing off " I WANT it to work " emotion of the users. 😢
Thanks for this excellent and kind shocking report. I almost pre-ordered yesterday before the keynote, but held off because something about the build up to the event had made me suspicious. It just seemed like a lot of talk. And then the keynote confirmed my worst fears. More talk, no demo. But learning that even you never saw a full demo having attended in person, is shocking. And the deception in the marketing is extremely disappointing. Nothing will make me invest in this company now.
Thank you for being an independent journalist, presenting your experience in a neutral and fair way. Huge respect. I will say, in their favour though, that the given price for micro OLED, pancake lenses, and 4k resolution per eye is good! Although 102 degree field of view is a little disappointing when people want 120 FOV.
Excellent video and thank you for this. I have been very skeptical about this device. Especially after a not so great interaction previously when reaching out about the multi monitor support loss. Very disappointing to see the actual product as compared to what was teased and offered for sale. Awesome journalism, hope you enjoyed Austin!
Thank you for an honest appraisal. I am waiting to watch several production unit reviews before I order and it looks certain that this will happen after October 1st and hence price increase. I feel you hit the nail(s) on the head here with the cloudyness of any real world demonstrations of features. Good reporting....a fresh change to many channels. Thank you.
We were all misled. Period. A lot of hipe for nothing. I was going to purchase one because of the form factor, but it is evident that it is a traditional vr headset disguised as glasses. While I use immersed and I enjoy the software, I think they pulled the wool over our eyes; it is hard for me to trust their word after the demo and how they lead us on. Finally, they should have weighted the headset with the stems on. That is how they promoted it for months, and that is what I expected to see. It is better to under promise and over deliver. I appreciate your optimism, though. You are a great journalist. Obejective and fair.
Thank you for the honest review. I pre-ordered and after seeing this fiasco share your views. You hit the nail on the head and I do not think anybody could have expressed it any better.
I really appreciate your transparent review and your beautiful smile. I will wait to see what the final product looks like before I make my purchase decision.
Great video. I was dubious about the Visor from the start. I was extremely tempted to pre-order but I’m so glad I didn’t. It definitely looks like they over promised and extremely under delivered.
Over promising and under delivering is all too common in the XR industry. This isn't helpful at all. The only silver lining (sort of) about that is, the general public mostly doesn't know about the over promising. But this needs to stop. Regardless if it's Meta showing fake legs a couple years ago, PiMax making a incomplete product every year and moving on, or this (Immersed Visor), this is hurting the industry and makes it hard to take XR seriously.
Thanks for the excellent summary and constructive criticism of the Visor demo. I ordered the Founders Edition on day one. I just sent them an e-mail letting them know I do not intend to cancel my order as I believe in their mission and want to continue to support their effort, but I was disheartened by the failure of the demo. I asked that they take your constructive criticism to heart. They should definitely focus on doing it right rather than getting this product out the door quickly before it's ready.
There were so many red flags and, for me, this “reveal/demo” was the final straw. They have behaved so unprofessionally throughout this entire process. They are talking about an IPO before they even have a working product!? Even if they are well-intentioned, they CLEARLY don’t possess the knowledge or drive to do what they are claiming to do. If I was in charge there, I’d fire most of the staff, but my guess is that the problem started at the top. MAYBE this headset will release, but it will be late and will be missing features which may or may not get delivered.
It was a great review with detailed insights and sound criticism. I’ve also subscribed to the Founder's Edition, and I have high expectations for Visor. While there are some differences between the marketing and the actual product, I personally find them somewhat understandable, and there’s no doubt it’s an innovative product. In an interview with Rejin, the CEO, conducted by a Japanese blogger, he mentioned that they plan to do a demo in Japan in December. I expect they’ll showcase something fully functional at that time. Based on this, I think the shipping will be around the end of 2024 or early 2025 at the earliest. If there are any delays, I hope Immersed will announce them promptly.
Thank you thank you. I was really looking forward to Visor reveal to the point I've put off buying another pair of XR glasses for over a month. The reveal was such a disappointment and makes it look like complete vapourware. I appreciate your honesty and excellent journalism, asking all the questions I wanted the answer to. Will be keeping an eye out for your updates. Phillip.
Finally! Thank you for covering this! I DiscoVR’ed you through the Meta Quest 3 in the supermarket video which I truly enjoyed! And now I am subscribing to you because I am also waiting for this product before buying an XREAL air. Looks like I'll just get an XREAL Air 😌 thank you again 🙇♂ 🙏🏻 Love from the Philippines 🇵🇭❤
Fully agree with you. I put my money in for the headset since last year but the go of transparency is just ridiculous... They can show videos of it being demoed or they can show screenshots of this software or they can show what the theater mode is or explain the app center or the curator... All renji said is that they will expand more in the upcoming weeks... These had to be discussed during the irl yet non of these was discussed... The faith in immersed is getting thinner, there is no reason not to give more info at this point. The firmware issue is not holding them back....
Oh dear, we’re not there yet. As time goes on comfort is one of the things I most look forward to for the future of VR, I can wear a decent HMD for over 6 hours if the experience is gripping me but I can’t wait until I can barely feel it like when I’m looking for my glasses with my glasses on.
Thank you for the honest review. I have no brave to purchase this at this point. I believe the comfortability comes more from fitting and the center of gravity than the pure weight although both are important.
Ah... The old *switcharoo* ™️. Classic vapourware move! 😅 Jokes aside, this had all the hallmarks of vapourware: demoing a less desirable product than the promo showed ✅ Unveiling unfinished product that can't be tested ✅ Price that's better than what billion dollar corporations offer ✅ Shipping same year despite no finished prototype ✅
Great job Tetiana! Failing to impress reviewers is a bad sign for consumers. Despite that, I think it’s important that with the price consumers will also have to purchase lenses and maybe even audio along with a decent headset. The cost already seems to be climbing and you didn’t even get to test the actual visor. This product sounds like a definite “buyer beware”
They should have gone more the AR glasses route with better panels. It is something that would have required a lot less tech and be something they could deliver on and be something that could be smaller and look like what they originally presented. Trying to be a VR headset that has all the tech that companies like Meta and Apple worked years on and be smaller isn't possible. If it was possible, it would have been done by one of these companies already. We all know how much Apple didn't want their headset as big as it end up being.
Thank you for the report, I honestly knew this would happen, hardware is hard, harder than software and if a hardware company like Apple took so long to give us AVP at these prices you can only imagine what a software company like immersed would achieve in the time frame they have. Look I’m still hopeful they come up with something close to their target, even though I am not the target audience, this would only help the VR market for productivity which is something I’ve always wanted to see. Disclaimer I’m all in on Apple with all my devices which is why I bought the AVP, and I have no regrets. But the visor has been on my radar though I knew it’s not going to be as good as the marketing videos made it out to be.
I was on the preorder wagon, but cancelled it earlier this year when a few months before we were supposed to get the founder's edition there was still nothing to show for. I do wish them the best, immersed is a cool tool.
I was so excited about this product. What a let down. Renji seemed so passionate in all the videos too. I don't know if they will ever get to release this. I am sure they know they effed up with this event.
Good review! The VISOR is not ready, not fully funded or in production, and will likely disappoint everyone, but it will fill the gaps in the market due to its price and weight.
LOL, I was ready to joke about people needing to lie before they try the headset on so they can grow bigger noses to hold the headset, but those pink marks on your nose are horrible! I don't think this headset with those stems are useable if you get those marks after a demo, imagine 8 hours of work with those things! :-( It's a shame, because I want this headset so badly, if this headset worked it would be an instant buy for any digital nomad who could now travel with multiple monitor screens and work at any cafe! Thank you for your review.
Yes, the final product they promise is so desirable, I want it too! I’d use it way more than my Apple Vision Pro. But it seems like we’re farther from it than we thought
@@DiscoVRTetiana You said this in your video too and that so much resonated with me. I want this to work, with the form they showed us. But the rambling at the keynote with these changes to the form show us they are not there yet with either product or leadership.
The stems don't have the angle that the original mock ups had. That's interesting. It makes sense it would fall down on your face. The fact that they didn't have the straps is odd too. I'd think that would be something that's easy to get set up with. It's not technical or anything. I wonder if some last minute design changes happened and the accessories weren't ready yet.
The fact that it does not have IPD adjustment is also really weird, how would you make those with different IPDs for everyone? Bigscreen at least had a simple spacer that could be changed. This one has a solid plastic cover. There is no way to adjust IPD on those devices.
Halo Mod is calling 😅 ohhh dear I'm so sorry you couldn't test the functions, that's so bitter. But Renji has promised a Japanese content creator to travel to Japan in December so I really hope he does the same for you or sends you a working prototype to test.
Great video and great reporting! The lack of transparency and general crypto bro vibe I’m getting from them is very disconcerting. Hopefully it’s just growing pains and not a systemic problem with management.
Fully agree! Perhaps technology isn't far enough for what they initially envisioned - for a glasses-like form factor it probably needs glasses-like weights of < 50g to be comfortable. But fingers crossed they at least still get a low-weight, high-res, payable headset done. With a fitting headstrap to really wear this comfortably for hours - absolutely needed if this is really supposed to work as a mobile monitor replacement.
Seems like they should have teamed up with big screen or xreal. Because this doesn't look like they want it to do more then being a multi monitor setup.
I would like simple answers, such as how much RAM and storage space the VISOR has. That at least should be something they can communicate even without a unit with working firmware. Most other stats we now know (resolution, weight, processor etc), the headset while bigger than initial marketing still looks like a good VR headset design (if the head strap is used at least). But what needs to be revealed before people should be expected to order this thing are simple answers, like how much storage do I get for (theoretical upcoming theatre mode). Great video though. Thank you for seeking answers.
Great video thanks. All 100% accurate. They shot themselves in the foot with this embarrassing event. The marketing was horrible but if they produced a working and matching product then it would have been ok, but they produced almost nothing at all.
Nice update. I always had a kickstarter vibes about them which would also mean that this could end up being a scam. People have pre-ordered these units just to be disappointed that there is no working demo of it. The amount of time these small startups and companies are going to spend to get this right and then not make profit out of it, Apple & Meta's of the world will be rolling out budget versions of these glasses what blends in to the ecosystem, has excellent support and years of engineering and reputation to back up.
Don't worry, even with the TOP STRAP, the weight still at the front, the top strap do nothing to balance the device, without weight at the back, there is nothing to do to improve weight distribution/balance, same problem of the Apple Vision Pro. It's called "Center Of Gravity" of the device, it's all at the front, vertical down on the nose. Pico 4 it's the only VR device that really understood the weight distribution/balance of the whole device over the head out of the box. My main complain with EACH new brand of any new VR that comes for the first time to the market, it's HOW and WHY they don't LEARN ANYTHING from all the older VR headsets that already made all the main worst design mistakes, mostly about the ergonomics.
I'd like to see the Quest Pro kind of setup where the battery can weigh the same and offset the weight. Maybe there can be a strap that someone makes to do this.
I would be extremely annoyed to travel all that way, just to look at a device that isn't even powered on. Feels very much bait & switch. It looks painful to wear too! I hope people don't get scammed. The cost is definitely questionable. All the best to them. Oh, I'm using your Pimax affilliate code to get a 'light'.
From the beginning, this feels suspicious. Why keep the entire operation so secret? They could easily win people over by sharing even a basic demo online, even if it has bugs. People interested in this would understand and be patient. After all, they're not Apple or Meta, just a startup. They just need to prove they're not scammers.
i was a little suspicious, but still rooting for them. the use-case of the visor is perfect for my needs, but they were acting a bit like it was going to be vaporware. i dont know why they set this date for this event when they could have continued to wait and develop the prototypes. guess they are running out of money and are trying to get as many early purchases as possible. the marketing push seems very scummy seeing as they still havent shown a single working prototype.
They've been notorious for banning anyone who asks hard questions in their subreddit or discord if the question makes the product look bad to other potential customers.
Sure this is a headset territory, not the glasses I've seen in promo materials. To be honest, it's not that much smaller compared to Pico4 when you remove the face cushion; which I use that way, plus a halo strap. I still think it has potential, but for now, I suggest going back to the drawing board - make v2 smaller and more comfortable.
If all the other specs come together I'm totally fine with it having a strap setup like a regular VR headset. Getting this kind of spec into something glasses-like is just impossible with current technology. If these guys can get Horizon OS running on this thing I'll have more faith.
In an email sent out last month, and in the Keynote they promoted watching 3D movies. When I asked, after the email, how they were going to stream 3D Movies (partner, service, etc) they said they would let us know at the IRL event. They didn't reference how they were going to accomplish this. Soo.. How are they going to let us watch 3D movies?
Hope they get the bugs worked out. I like what Apple is doing, making a VR OS, but I like immersed because I can have multiple screens where AVP only has one. It will be interesting where productivity goes in the coming years.
Thank you for this honest video. I wish you would be more clear and direct about NOT recommending people to spend any money until (if) they show real working products and let people review them. Companies with such attitude are damaging XR hardware industry and other startups by devastating trust of consumers.
I don't think you, the cryptobro scammer, NFT trader, who is befriending cringy youtubers to shill for somnium space vr1 (which was supposed to ship months ago) should say anything about recommendations. Keep on hating Meta, while your Somnium metaverse continues to average 0 players.
@@DiscoVRTetiana why are you deleting comments? are you trying to get artur to invite you for some Somnium testing? I bet you will not talk about his crypto/nft/dead metaverse.
Yeah.....ill be keeping my AVP for years to come, from reputable company called Apple. This has 0 interest, and no intention to get them. For the sake of VR industry I wish them best but...wow. To bad you had to go through that debacle of event.
Can we also appreciate the irony that this video is video number 404 for your channel 😅 "404 response Not Found" your channel profile says you have 404 videos
LMAO 🤣
Well done, this is good journalism
much appreciated
true, good journalism is rare these days
was going to say reading all the discord comments about cancelling their orders was giving me brain rot, thank you for this video
@@DiscoVRTetianathanks
@@Shark-fj2sz "person makes the most straight forward video about what they experienced"
TH-cam commenters: "wow what great journalism"
Meanwhile actual real journalism gets brushed aside as MSM propaganda
I don't understand why they would choose to do this much damage to their brand. Just delay the keynote!
Can’t do. Investors need something to show
@@TinRapperI wonder what the investors think now. Not a good start!
@@bluebell1yeah it’s bad either way. But a bad product might help the ceo keep his job instead of no product. Investors usually don’t know shit about the tech they’re investing in
This product always was a hoax. They tried to fake it till you make it, but it’s to difficult to make it. Honestly, if this would be a realistic thing to produce, Apple or Meta would already be doing it
Everyone is rushing announcements in anticipation for Meta’s announcements next week. Vive, Snap & Visor all announced stuff that’s not ready this week
Good video, as usual. While I didn't make the trip to Austin, I was on the live feed. It was truly a letdown. I"m a very happy Immersed user on my Q3 and had high hopes for the Visor. I'm still hopeful that it comes as described. But I'm glad I didn't pre-order. Thanks for what you do. As a new VR fan and user, at age 63, I've learned quite a bit from your videos.
Preordering would definitely be a risky move
Great unbiased reporting, as a marketer, it’s exactly as I expected - they over promised and tried to build up the hype and pre order sales, but the truth is the fundamental technology for achieving that form factor is not there yet. It literally looks like packaged quest 3 trying to make it smaller but it really didnt work
I wear my quest 3 without the face mask. I looks to be similar thickness to the Visor (great mixed reality experience, too).
It’s telling that they are comfortable with using the “lure people in” phrasing thinking it isn’t a sussy AF bait and switch instead just some misunderstood reasoning by the uninitiated that need to be explained as if to a child.
I think companies like Xreal are doing a much better job. Seeing the red marks on your face, it almost feels like wearing a VR headset but without the comfort.
At least you were able to turn your wasted time into something productive by making a video about the product. In that way, what was a personal disappointment became valuable information for your followers. Well done!
thank you for your fair, honest and professional coverage of this event, despite the experience being extremely disappointing your response is wonderfully level headed, thoughtful, thorough and well put. i've subbed to stay in the loop with any information you may uncover and i'm sure you have and look forward to seeing you in some great reports in the meanwhile.
Thank you! I definitely will follow up on visor not hopefully you’ll enjoy some other stuff I cover too ☺️
I just noticed that in the company videos that most users are looking up slightly while wearing the Visor. Now we know why. LOL. To keep it from falling off. Thanks Tetiana. Not holding my breath now waiting for this. It reminds me EXACTLY of the Sony HMZ-T1. It was front heavy nightmare that felt like a torture device when you wear it. Although the hmz-t1 was much heavier, it looks like it wears identical as the visor.
I attached my T1 to hard hat lol. Man its been like 12 years.
@@SINfromPL Yeah, I had to stick mine onto a bicycling helmet. LOl. Those 720p screens were beautiful though.
This, on top of them blocking people on social media and deleting criticism on their subreddit, makes it abundantly clear to me how this is a company that had the best of intentions but has an ego problem. They can't be told they're wrong, they refuse to be realistic about expectations, and they are overly ambitious to the point of underdelivering on everything thus far.
You wanna root for the little guy and more competition, but Immersed has sadly made it abundantly clear that they aren't the ones to do it.
Exactly! And one more red flag: them constantly changing their business models. They started as a subscription app (fine by me, I was even a paying customer), then veering off towards crypto grifting with virtual real-estate and then, when this did not work out, going into the hardware business and neglecting the app itself. Oh, and one more thing: their idiotic decision to force the users to physically unplug any additional monitors from their PCs. They could've simply limited the app to just use one monitor, but, according to Renji, that would be very difficult to implement. If _that_ is difficult for them, why should people trust their hundreds of dollars with such a company?
@@brekibrekiyou have to unplug monitors from the PC to use the app.😂😂😂
Thank you for this video. While I also hope Visor will one day reached its desired potential, there are too many red flags to ignore at the present time. I have put in a request to cancel my Founder’s Edition preorder as I only did that so that I could hopefully get the product sometime this year. I don’t think Visor is anywhere close to release, and that preorder money could be better used in other areas of my life. I bought a product. I never intended to invest in a Kickstarter. I hope now that they abide by the conditions of the preorder and provide a full refund.
Hopefully you get your money back.
Tetiana, this was such an amazing video, well aligned with exactly how I felt about the whole event even when I was watching it virtually. Thank you for your professionalism and honestly about your own experience. We need more people like you in XR, great work and I am also rooting for Immersed to show a functional demo in the near future, but this event really gave me a bad impression about them as a company.
Thank you for watching and for your kind words! I always maintain an optimistic view and am always willing to give a benefit of a doubt, especially given a good track record with the app. Time will tell🤞
Same!
GREAT review , I was a founder buyer, asked Renji about 6m ago about release date and got blocked, since then I have seen multiple red flags , using the glasses mock ups to market right up to launch when it's clearly not possibly, and now this non-demo demo is the biggest . They are playing off " I WANT it to work " emotion of the users. 😢
Thanks for the honest review Tetiana
Always!
Thanks for this excellent and kind shocking report. I almost pre-ordered yesterday before the keynote, but held off because something about the build up to the event had made me suspicious. It just seemed like a lot of talk. And then the keynote confirmed my worst fears. More talk, no demo. But learning that even you never saw a full demo having attended in person, is shocking. And the deception in the marketing is extremely disappointing. Nothing will make me invest in this company now.
Great job! 👏 👏
I did a free trial, out of curiosity. I canceled immediately, they still charged me 29.99. Not surprised
Thank you for being an independent journalist, presenting your experience in a neutral and fair way. Huge respect. I will say, in their favour though, that the given price for micro OLED, pancake lenses, and 4k resolution per eye is good! Although 102 degree field of view is a little disappointing when people want 120 FOV.
You know, I was scared that Immersed had bought out a bunch of promotional journalists. Thank you for proving me otherwise
Excellent video and thank you for this. I have been very skeptical about this device. Especially after a not so great interaction previously when reaching out about the multi monitor support loss. Very disappointing to see the actual product as compared to what was teased and offered for sale. Awesome journalism, hope you enjoyed Austin!
Thank you for an honest appraisal. I am waiting to watch several production unit reviews before I order and it looks certain that this will happen after October 1st and hence price increase.
I feel you hit the nail(s) on the head here with the cloudyness of any real world demonstrations of features.
Good reporting....a fresh change to many channels. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Subscribed this is the accountability that is missing from so much journalism
The review that i've been waiting for! Thanks for the great unbiased contents, as always!
My pleasure!
We were all misled. Period. A lot of hipe for nothing. I was going to purchase one because of the form factor, but it is evident that it is a traditional vr headset disguised as glasses. While I use immersed and I enjoy the software, I think they pulled the wool over our eyes; it is hard for me to trust their word after the demo and how they lead us on. Finally, they should have weighted the headset with the stems on. That is how they promoted it for months, and that is what I expected to see. It is better to under promise and over deliver.
I appreciate your optimism, though. You are a great journalist. Obejective and fair.
Thanks for this excellent coverage. And I was bummed that I couldn’t make it down there this week. . .
Would be great to meet you there ❤️
Thank you for the honest review. I pre-ordered and after seeing this fiasco share your views. You hit the nail on the head and I do not think anybody could have expressed it any better.
I really appreciate your transparent review and your beautiful smile. I will wait to see what the final product looks like before I make my purchase decision.
Great video.
I was dubious about the Visor from the start.
I was extremely tempted to pre-order but I’m so glad I didn’t.
It definitely looks like they over promised and extremely under delivered.
Over promising and under delivering is all too common in the XR industry. This isn't helpful at all. The only silver lining (sort of) about that is, the general public mostly doesn't know about the over promising. But this needs to stop.
Regardless if it's Meta showing fake legs a couple years ago, PiMax making a incomplete product every year and moving on, or this (Immersed Visor), this is hurting the industry and makes it hard to take XR seriously.
Thanks for the excellent summary and constructive criticism of the Visor demo. I ordered the Founders Edition on day one. I just sent them an e-mail letting them know I do not intend to cancel my order as I believe in their mission and want to continue to support their effort, but I was disheartened by the failure of the demo. I asked that they take your constructive criticism to heart. They should definitely focus on doing it right rather than getting this product out the door quickly before it's ready.
There were so many red flags and, for me, this “reveal/demo” was the final straw. They have behaved so unprofessionally throughout this entire process. They are talking about an IPO before they even have a working product!? Even if they are well-intentioned, they CLEARLY don’t possess the knowledge or drive to do what they are claiming to do. If I was in charge there, I’d fire most of the staff, but my guess is that the problem started at the top.
MAYBE this headset will release, but it will be late and will be missing features which may or may not get delivered.
I saw many red flags... on her face.....
It was a great review with detailed insights and sound criticism. I’ve also subscribed to the Founder's Edition, and I have high expectations for Visor. While there are some differences between the marketing and the actual product, I personally find them somewhat understandable, and there’s no doubt it’s an innovative product. In an interview with Rejin, the CEO, conducted by a Japanese blogger, he mentioned that they plan to do a demo in Japan in December. I expect they’ll showcase something fully functional at that time. Based on this, I think the shipping will be around the end of 2024 or early 2025 at the earliest. If there are any delays, I hope Immersed will announce them promptly.
Such a great run down of events. Always appreciate your clear comms Tetiana!
Always!
Thank you thank you. I was really looking forward to Visor reveal to the point I've put off buying another pair of XR glasses for over a month. The reveal was such a disappointment and makes it look like complete vapourware.
I appreciate your honesty and excellent journalism, asking all the questions I wanted the answer to. Will be keeping an eye out for your updates.
Phillip.
Finally! Thank you for covering this! I DiscoVR’ed you through the Meta Quest 3 in the supermarket video which I truly enjoyed! And now I am subscribing to you because I am also waiting for this product before buying an XREAL air. Looks like I'll just get an XREAL Air 😌 thank you again 🙇♂ 🙏🏻 Love from the Philippines 🇵🇭❤
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Bigscreen beyond still the form factor king
And they didn't have to lie to people about their product.
Good job on saying what was on your mind hopefully they get it together👏🏾👏🏾
Fully agree with you. I put my money in for the headset since last year but the go of transparency is just ridiculous... They can show videos of it being demoed or they can show screenshots of this software or they can show what the theater mode is or explain the app center or the curator... All renji said is that they will expand more in the upcoming weeks... These had to be discussed during the irl yet non of these was discussed... The faith in immersed is getting thinner, there is no reason not to give more info at this point. The firmware issue is not holding them back....
Oh dear, we’re not there yet. As time goes on comfort is one of the things I most look forward to for the future of VR, I can wear a decent HMD for over 6 hours if the experience is gripping me but I can’t wait until I can barely feel it like when I’m looking for my glasses with my glasses on.
Thank you for your video! I have been sceptical to the device but really hope it works as advertised.
Thank you for the honest review. I have no brave to purchase this at this point. I believe the comfortability comes more from fitting and the center of gravity than the pure weight although both are important.
Thank you for making a great review in under 10 minutes.
Ah... The old *switcharoo* ™️. Classic vapourware move! 😅
Jokes aside, this had all the hallmarks of vapourware: demoing a less desirable product than the promo showed ✅ Unveiling unfinished product that can't be tested ✅ Price that's better than what billion dollar corporations offer ✅ Shipping same year despite no finished prototype ✅
Great job Tetiana! Failing to impress reviewers is a bad sign for consumers. Despite that, I think it’s important that with the price consumers will also have to purchase lenses and maybe even audio along with a decent headset. The cost already seems to be climbing and you didn’t even get to test the actual visor. This product sounds like a definite “buyer beware”
They should have gone more the AR glasses route with better panels. It is something that would have required a lot less tech and be something they could deliver on and be something that could be smaller and look like what they originally presented. Trying to be a VR headset that has all the tech that companies like Meta and Apple worked years on and be smaller isn't possible. If it was possible, it would have been done by one of these companies already. We all know how much Apple didn't want their headset as big as it end up being.
Thank you for the report, I honestly knew this would happen, hardware is hard, harder than software and if a hardware company like Apple took so long to give us AVP at these prices you can only imagine what a software company like immersed would achieve in the time frame they have. Look I’m still hopeful they come up with something close to their target, even though I am not the target audience, this would only help the VR market for productivity which is something I’ve always wanted to see. Disclaimer I’m all in on Apple with all my devices which is why I bought the AVP, and I have no regrets. But the visor has been on my radar though I knew it’s not going to be as good as the marketing videos made it out to be.
I just subscribed because of the honestly displayed here, fantastic reporting.
thank you! And welcome aboard :)
I was on the preorder wagon, but cancelled it earlier this year when a few months before we were supposed to get the founder's edition there was still nothing to show for. I do wish them the best, immersed is a cool tool.
So you were supposed to get it months ago, and they didn't even have a device that works properly at the event is crazy
how much did they charge you for the refund? (the "processing fees", like they say)
@@gustavomoraes870 I cancelled a Founders, the difference was 30-50 maybe.
Thanks for your honest review. Much appreciate it.
Very good and informative, thanks.
I was so excited about this product. What a let down. Renji seemed so passionate in all the videos too. I don't know if they will ever get to release this. I am sure they know they effed up with this event.
Good review! The VISOR is not ready, not fully funded or in production, and will likely disappoint everyone, but it will fill the gaps in the market due to its price and weight.
LOL, I was ready to joke about people needing to lie before they try the headset on so they can grow bigger noses to hold the headset, but those pink marks on your nose are horrible! I don't think this headset with those stems are useable if you get those marks after a demo, imagine 8 hours of work with those things! :-( It's a shame, because I want this headset so badly, if this headset worked it would be an instant buy for any digital nomad who could now travel with multiple monitor screens and work at any cafe! Thank you for your review.
yeah to much weight on the nose and around the eyes. It made her look like she was in a boxing match after only a few minutes.
Yes, the final product they promise is so desirable, I want it too! I’d use it way more than my Apple Vision Pro. But it seems like we’re farther from it than we thought
@@DiscoVRTetiana You said this in your video too and that so much resonated with me. I want this to work, with the form they showed us. But the rambling at the keynote with these changes to the form show us they are not there yet with either product or leadership.
The stems don't have the angle that the original mock ups had. That's interesting. It makes sense it would fall down on your face. The fact that they didn't have the straps is odd too. I'd think that would be something that's easy to get set up with. It's not technical or anything. I wonder if some last minute design changes happened and the accessories weren't ready yet.
So proud of you for this video. Amazing, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it ! ☺️
Great video. Thanks for your contribution!
The fact that it does not have IPD adjustment is also really weird, how would you make those with different IPDs for everyone? Bigscreen at least had a simple spacer that could be changed. This one has a solid plastic cover. There is no way to adjust IPD on those devices.
The IPD is custom to your face so they can limit size and weight
@@Jdb63 Yes, i know that. And that design would be most insane design for that type of solution.
@@Nobody-Nowhere I'm not sure what your point is
@@Jdb63 yes, i knew that from you first comment as my point was already clearly stated in my original comment that you apparently cant understand
@@Nobody-Nowhere Ok bud 😂
It will be interesting to see how this turns out. I have no need for it, but I do love seeing the tech grow.
Halo Mod is calling 😅 ohhh dear I'm so sorry you couldn't test the functions, that's so bitter. But Renji has promised a Japanese content creator to travel to Japan in December so I really hope he does the same for you or sends you a working prototype to test.
I REALLY hope so! I spoke to some staff members who said it would be possible, so fingers crossed!
Great video and great reporting! The lack of transparency and general crypto bro vibe I’m getting from them is very disconcerting. Hopefully it’s just growing pains and not a systemic problem with management.
Fully agree! Perhaps technology isn't far enough for what they initially envisioned - for a glasses-like form factor it probably needs glasses-like weights of < 50g to be comfortable.
But fingers crossed they at least still get a low-weight, high-res, payable headset done. With a fitting headstrap to really wear this comfortably for hours - absolutely needed if this is really supposed to work as a mobile monitor replacement.
At 75, my Viture Pro are light enough.
Yep you are right, thank you for your honest review!.
Seems like they should have teamed up with big screen or xreal. Because this doesn't look like they want it to do more then being a multi monitor setup.
What a great honest review, i just subbed
I appreciate it!
I would like simple answers, such as how much RAM and storage space the VISOR has. That at least should be something they can communicate even without a unit with working firmware. Most other stats we now know (resolution, weight, processor etc), the headset while bigger than initial marketing still looks like a good VR headset design (if the head strap is used at least). But what needs to be revealed before people should be expected to order this thing are simple answers, like how much storage do I get for (theoretical upcoming theatre mode).
Great video though. Thank you for seeking answers.
Great video thanks. All 100% accurate. They shot themselves in the foot with this embarrassing event. The marketing was horrible but if they produced a working and matching product then it would have been ok, but they produced almost nothing at all.
Love they offload the damaging components! The product is amazing and thought of everything.
U are one of the best TH-camrs for people that love vr world
Felt like the only person who noticed there was no facial interface in all the marketing lol
I'm calling it now. Failed on launch. I know I can't be the only one who won't buy something just to have to pay a subscription to use it.
All the delays and hype, I called it. Vaporware. Great review and fair coverage.
Last minute emergency stopped me from going.... I would of been so let down if this was all that the event offered........
Good job! 👍 That's what we want to see in this review.
thank you for your honesty
Nice update. I always had a kickstarter vibes about them which would also mean that this could end up being a scam. People have pre-ordered these units just to be disappointed that there is no working demo of it. The amount of time these small startups and companies are going to spend to get this right and then not make profit out of it, Apple & Meta's of the world will be rolling out budget versions of these glasses what blends in to the ecosystem, has excellent support and years of engineering and reputation to back up.
Fantastic video. Sooooo glad I didn’t come down from Chicago. I’m really pulling for Immersed on this one, but this isn’t a good first impression.
Don't worry, even with the TOP STRAP, the weight still at the front, the top strap do nothing to balance the device, without weight at the back, there is nothing to do to improve weight distribution/balance, same problem of the Apple Vision Pro. It's called "Center Of Gravity" of the device, it's all at the front, vertical down on the nose. Pico 4 it's the only VR device that really understood the weight distribution/balance of the whole device over the head out of the box. My main complain with EACH new brand of any new VR that comes for the first time to the market, it's HOW and WHY they don't LEARN ANYTHING from all the older VR headsets that already made all the main worst design mistakes, mostly about the ergonomics.
I'd like to see the Quest Pro kind of setup where the battery can weigh the same and offset the weight. Maybe there can be a strap that someone makes to do this.
I would be extremely annoyed to travel all that way, just to look at a device that isn't even powered on. Feels very much bait & switch. It looks painful to wear too! I hope people don't get scammed. The cost is definitely questionable. All the best to them. Oh, I'm using your Pimax affilliate code to get a 'light'.
From the beginning, this feels suspicious. Why keep the entire operation so secret? They could easily win people over by sharing even a basic demo online, even if it has bugs. People interested in this would understand and be patient. After all, they're not Apple or Meta, just a startup. They just need to prove they're not scammers.
i was a little suspicious, but still rooting for them. the use-case of the visor is perfect for my needs, but they were acting a bit like it was going to be vaporware. i dont know why they set this date for this event when they could have continued to wait and develop the prototypes. guess they are running out of money and are trying to get as many early purchases as possible. the marketing push seems very scummy seeing as they still havent shown a single working prototype.
Thanks for the video and the honesty.
Always!
Immersed want we take a leap of faith, but it is a magic leap 😅
Viture is best in this segment.
but….but….that backpack is so amazing….it will hold that non functioning brick perfectly
They've been notorious for banning anyone who asks hard questions in their subreddit or discord if the question makes the product look bad to other potential customers.
Sure this is a headset territory, not the glasses I've seen in promo materials. To be honest, it's not that much smaller compared to Pico4 when you remove the face cushion; which I use that way, plus a halo strap. I still think it has potential, but for now, I suggest going back to the drawing board - make v2 smaller and more comfortable.
🙏🏼 Thank you! Great review!
Given the availability of other VR-esqe glasses out there, the Visor's kickstarter is unwarranted.
great job with this video. very informative, and you brought up a lot of good talking points. you've earned my sub :D
Welcome aboard!
Love the honesty on this
If all the other specs come together I'm totally fine with it having a strap setup like a regular VR headset. Getting this kind of spec into something glasses-like is just impossible with current technology. If these guys can get Horizon OS running on this thing I'll have more faith.
Thanks for the warning.
A obligatory membership just to be able to turn on the screen you bought and powered!
What a scam.
sounds like hype. The twitter post from Eric claiming the "visuals are equal to or better than Apple Vision pro?" seems sus lmao
In an email sent out last month, and in the Keynote they promoted watching 3D movies. When I asked, after the email, how they were going to stream 3D Movies (partner, service, etc) they said they would let us know at the IRL event. They didn't reference how they were going to accomplish this. Soo.. How are they going to let us watch 3D movies?
They won't.
Hope they get the bugs worked out. I like what Apple is doing, making a VR OS, but I like immersed because I can have multiple screens where AVP only has one. It will be interesting where productivity goes in the coming years.
Thank you for this honest video. I wish you would be more clear and direct about NOT recommending people to spend any money until (if) they show real working products and let people review them. Companies with such attitude are damaging XR hardware industry and other startups by devastating trust of consumers.
I don't think you, the cryptobro scammer, NFT trader, who is befriending cringy youtubers to shill for somnium space vr1 (which was supposed to ship months ago) should say anything about recommendations. Keep on hating Meta, while your Somnium metaverse continues to average 0 players.
Thank you for watching Artur ☺️
@@DiscoVRTetiana why are you deleting comments? are you trying to get artur to invite you for some Somnium testing? I bet you will not talk about his crypto/nft/dead metaverse.
@@DiscoVRTetiana great video!
Great video! thanks for that!
Yeah.....ill be keeping my AVP for years to come, from reputable company called Apple. This has 0 interest, and no intention to get them. For the sake of VR industry I wish them best but...wow. To bad you had to go through that debacle of event.
I love the immersed vr app. I want them to keep working on that and focus on it and not the visor
classic overpromise. reminds of magic leap back in the day