This is the equivalent of the new player with the 5 star unit they spent money for vs the veteran who still plays using the first unit they got at the start
@@mechanomics2649 Ok then. I'll simplify it for you. Experienced pilot who uses older mobilesuit to beat younger Inexperienced pilot with a much more powerful mobilesuit
Just know, even though Amuro was scared af in here, Doan was also shitting his pants, knowing about the "Federation's White Devil" and was implied to not expecting to win, especially in the way he did.
0:25 Crazy that Amuro threw away the Beam Rifle, a very invaluable weapon that oneshot Zeon mobile suits and has a power of a battleship's beam weaponry.
It's not that invaluable, I mean, they send out new ones for Amuro I think + he's engaging in close combat, and I don't think having a long rifle would be of any help
If he did that I think that could have provided an opportunity for Doan to push Amuro into the ocean, since Amuro would probably be figuring out how in the hell he was going to throw the beam rifle in that position.@@katboi7140
This guy beat Amuro and the RX-78-02 in a standard MS-06F Zaku II with just a heat hawk. That is unbelievably impressive considering all the high performance MS and Zeon aces piloting them Amuro faces and destroys.
I mean, this was still when Amuro was a bit green I believe but that still makes this an impressive win for Doan considering other veterans still weren’t a match
@@トーキ-g8vI mean hadn’t Amuro fought Char multiple times and destroyed dozens of mobile suits at this point? While he wasn’t as good as he was at the end of the war calling him green is a serious understatement.
@@Ally.Cat.252 In short. Yeah. The Gundam is no where near as maneuvarable in Earths Gravity. Doan has a massive homeground advantage he knows the terrain, he knows the map, he knows how to navigate in weather and he knows to take Amuro by surprise. Amuro loses because he doesnt know the terrain.
Agreed! They managed to make the zaku look a lot less clunky with how they articulated his movements, almost as if he's being driven by a seasoned veteran and experienced mech pilot. So cool!
No idea. I generally don't like how the MS move in this movie. They are more like people dressed in armor than giant MS. In Hathaway, you can feel MS move with much more substance and inertia, and really makes you feel the scale and power of the MS more.
To be fair, by that time, Amuro was not a new player and Doan was indeed a super elite veteran, but even Doan was a veteran, if not for the collapsing cliff, things will end quite badly for Doan. Doan was not winning and Amuro was learning his move. In the end of movie,when facing high mobile Zaku II piloted by a veteran, Amuro was totally toying with the guy.
I'm fully expecting the original series to get a full remaster like this for the 50th anniversary in a few years, and I cannot wait to see it all over again. I hope the original VAs will make it to then, but I wouldn't mind a brand new cast either.
No. No, no, no, no. How on Earth do you sneak up on someone in a mobile suit?! The Gundam clearly has a camera on the back of its head. What, there's nothing in the computer that warns the pilot of a bloody Zaku walking up behind you?!
@@Mobius_118 the human is a flawed creatures, sometimes these sensors gives you a false sense of awareness. He might be sensory overload to pay attention.
Remember the gundam was made for space combat not ground combat in earth's gravity so the boosters are gonna have a hard time lifting it especially with the gundarium alloy
Cucuruz Doan's Island It's a movie adaptation of the infamous 15th episode of the original series that got scrubbed from pretty much every release of said series after the first DvD release
feels weird how the Movable Frame was supposed to give MS more agility/better movement when OYW suits are shown to be just as agile and poseable with their primitive tech.
The movable frame was more about extending the range of motion possible while maintaining armour strength, the suits likely kept around about the same mobility while being able to up their armour
@@averyangrycrow4936but if I recall it's main downside is exactly the opposite - it opens up a new range of humanlike motions, but a the cost of severely reducing structural stability and weakening the armour as you're supposed to dodge enemy fire now rather than taking it (which you wouldn't survive anyway due to everything having beam weaponry). Honestly, it seems movable frame exists only as a plot device and Gundam writers/animators just don't care to keep everything consistent with it.
@@kindlingking Moveable frames gave MSs more structural stability over the semi-monocoque design of OYW MSs by incorporating all of the MSs vitals into the frame itself, allowing for easier maintenance and customization. It essentially solved the problem transformable MSs had with stability during transformation and gave rise to the Zeta line of MSs.
Gundam has those head mounted Vulcan cannons perfect in this grapple situation and doesnt use them, and seemingly forgets big heavy mech is in gravity and weight matters xD
I mean, I know it’s fiction and as such it needs to add some extrq drama, but I wonder who the heck would accept piloting a vehicle that systematically EXPLODES and kills everyone inside and around it when it’s hit 🤷🏻
Well, I think the mobile suit was designed for space combat i mean even when you survive in space doesn't mean you will survive for long enough to evaquate you from the combat zone
So that's why they didn't make some survivable mobile suit but in Gundam Thunderbolt i see io flaming survive by detaching his gundam and his core i don't know much about gundam parts but yeah you can survive depend what mobile suit you use
@bamantioindrahidayat1165 both sides didn't even try to make a survivable mobile suit, the mass produced gundam RGM 79 actually was never able to detach its core the only variant that could detach its core was Thunderbolt variant
MS at this time were nuclear powered and designed for space. An MS reactor wasn’t guaranteed to blow, and at this point the explosions were relatively small, and sometimes they do just disable from damage and pilots will even try to do just that. When beam weapons became more common the chain reactions likewise happened more, since beams always cause a reaction if they hit the reactor. In space, where these machines were primarily designed to operate, this isn’t too bad but it’s devastating in atmosphere. A good example is the first episode of Unicorn where a ReZel goes nuclear and obliterates entire blocks in a colony and even puts a hole in it. tl;dr MS being powered by reactors is the reason they sometimes blow. In space this isn’t as big a deal and tbh when you’re hit in space you’re usually dead anyway.
Cucuruz Doan's Island It's a movie adaptation of the infamous 15th episode of the original series that got scrubbed from pretty much every release of said series after the first DvD release
Cucuruz Doan's Island It's a movie adaptation of the infamous 15th episode of the original series that got scrubbed from pretty much every release of said series after the first DvD release
Doan is Trying to Preserve his Things as Much as Possible. He has already Deserted from Zeon Army, so he cant Afford To Lose his Weapons or even Energy for the Heat Axe.
It reminds me of the Seed fight 🤯 Where the guy is is a basic Gundam protecting the gunships. That scene is SO GOOD. The Gundam s feel real and weighted@@SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited
You've got to take into account his current circumstances living in the island. He had people to protect all while making full use of a decidely shit mobile suit made even shittier by its current state of disrepair. Ambush tactics are literally his only recourse if he wanted to make it out of most of his battles alive.
a Movie for the Original Mobile Suit Gundam 0079 (The Original Gundam Series) based on a Specific Episode of the Original Series that looks So incredibly Bad compared to the Other Episodes, but has a Lovable Character Like Cucuruz Doan, so its a Great Episode to base off for a up to Date Animated Movie to Fix it. Tho its not 100% directly based on the Original, since It more Leans on the Mobile Suit Gundam: Origin Timeline, which is an AU like Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt rather than the Original Timeline.
Did Amuro forget he got vulcan guns on his Gundam's head? I remember he did use that weapon later half of the show on another Zaku? This fight is shit and stupid af tbh.
Really, he throw away his beam rifle. I mean I get it he's just a kid. But come on, he could have at least attached it to the back of his mobile suit. Or create distance between him and the Zaku to shoot it.
Yeah I think there are some pretty distasteful action sequences across the whole movie, on top of having characters making strange decisions in combat. The action almost feels limited in some scenes because of that. I think this is the result of unimaginative direction from project leads like the director.
The Originの時系列だと、ジャブロー戦の後だから、シャアのズゴックをジムで(ウッディ大尉のファンファンがいたといえ)相手した後なんだよね。それでドアンが乗っているとはいえ、ガンダムでザク相手に苦戦してるのは、今更ながらなんか違和感。。。 更にあとにシャアザクと対峙した時も、シャアが気を逸らした瞬間を討ち取ったといえ、足場の悪いジブラルタルの岩山の上で赤い彗星と互角に鍔迫り合いしてたし。それこそこのドアンとの出会いやベルファスト・大西洋の戦いで急成長したのかもしれないけど、あまりにも初期のアムロ感が強すぎる
![RGM-79[G]E GM EX](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MWgK6uBJqOc/mqdefault.jpg)
This is the equivalent of the new player with the 5 star unit they spent money for vs the veteran who still plays using the first unit they got at the start
Sure, if you know nothing else about the One Year War outside of watching this clip, I guess.
Dude cannot take the joke
@@UniversalTreatIsYummy Dude cannot make a good joke that makes sense
@@mechanomics2649I thought it was a good joke.
@@mechanomics2649 Ok then. I'll simplify it for you. Experienced pilot who uses older mobilesuit to beat younger Inexperienced pilot with a much more powerful mobilesuit
People saying Doan won as if he wasn't just standing there going "oh god what just happened I should not have survived that"
You know the different between Winning and Shitting yourself near to death while Winning?
Shit.
He won
He won
I won
I mean he can win and still be like “oh shit how did I win”
I remember somewhere someone called doan the char aznable of ground combat, and that is the most accurate description of him i could imagine
Exactly. And the Gundam is better in airborne combat
I think it was Danan of the Southern Cross Corps who compared Doan to Char
Just know, even though Amuro was scared af in here, Doan was also shitting his pants, knowing about the "Federation's White Devil" and was implied to not expecting to win, especially in the way he did.
Damn
Guess Element of Surprise and Luck was on Doan's side
"Probably just another set of GMs landing to investi- what the shit is that!!?"
He didn't seem too concerned
@@TheCptTrenchfootwe didn't get to see his face during the fight, so we wouldn't know.
0:25 Crazy that Amuro threw away the Beam Rifle, a very invaluable weapon that oneshot Zeon mobile suits and has a power of a battleship's beam weaponry.
しかしアムロがビームライフルを手放さなければガンダムは崖から落ちていただろう
It's not that invaluable, I mean, they send out new ones for Amuro I think + he's engaging in close combat, and I don't think having a long rifle would be of any help
@extremel.z.s3140 he could've just thrown it on the ground instead
If he did that I think that could have provided an opportunity for Doan to push Amuro into the ocean, since Amuro would probably be figuring out how in the hell he was going to throw the beam rifle in that position.@@katboi7140
In reality, Amuro should have made use of his boosters there.
This guy beat Amuro and the RX-78-02 in a standard MS-06F Zaku II with just a heat hawk. That is unbelievably impressive considering all the high performance MS and Zeon aces piloting them Amuro faces and destroys.
Actually, it was Amuro's mishaps.
I mean, this was still when Amuro was a bit green I believe but that still makes this an impressive win for Doan considering other veterans still weren’t a match
@@トーキ-g8vI mean hadn’t Amuro fought Char multiple times and destroyed dozens of mobile suits at this point? While he wasn’t as good as he was at the end of the war calling him green is a serious understatement.
Guess Amuro is a lot weaker fighting on earth?
@@Ally.Cat.252 In short. Yeah. The Gundam is no where near as maneuvarable in Earths Gravity. Doan has a massive homeground advantage he knows the terrain, he knows the map, he knows how to navigate in weather and he knows to take Amuro by surprise. Amuro loses because he doesnt know the terrain.
i love the 3d animation it makes the zaku look so awesome
Agreed! They managed to make the zaku look a lot less clunky with how they articulated his movements, almost as if he's being driven by a seasoned veteran and experienced mech pilot. So cool!
The moment Amuro regretted that he hasn’t leant sumo
Is there a particular reason he didn’t use his back thrusters to give him a boost back up? Was he out of fuel?
Most likely especially since it's a worn down old model of a zaku II
@@iceydicey77 Ah no I meant Aumero in the Gundam when he fell at the very end,
@@Artemie-np3qu
下手にジャンプしたらドアンに切られるからです
ドアンは公式設定でアムロより実力が上です
No idea. I generally don't like how the MS move in this movie. They are more like people dressed in armor than giant MS. In Hathaway, you can feel MS move with much more substance and inertia, and really makes you feel the scale and power of the MS more.
Origin is zeonwank. Amuro's less competent while zeon is more competent in general than the TV show
The memories come back.
アムロの背後を取っただけで凄い
To be fair, by that time, Amuro was not a new player and Doan was indeed a super elite veteran, but even Doan was a veteran, if not for the collapsing cliff, things will end quite badly for Doan. Doan was not winning and Amuro was learning his move. In the end of movie,when facing high mobile Zaku II piloted by a veteran, Amuro was totally toying with the guy.
what movie is this my friend?
@@BinishiusuSenpai “Gundam The Origin: Cucuruz Doan's Island”, if I remember correctly
I'm fully expecting the original series to get a full remaster like this for the 50th anniversary in a few years, and I cannot wait to see it all over again. I hope the original VAs will make it to then, but I wouldn't mind a brand new cast either.
With Amuro's VA being outed for doing an oopsie a couple of months ago, idek anymore man.
ive never seen a gundam jump before. ive seen them booster out of the way, but jumping is new
Welcome to the bottom barrel world of early UC.
0:36 Doan never used Heat Axe in the Mobile Suit Gundam 1979 anime and used huge rocks to throw at the enemy instead.
They wanted to give Doan a Badass Moment.
We see that later on in the movie. Doan's mech picks up rocks and throws them at an enemy suit.
0:25 ビームライフルこれで出番終了
Damnit Amuro, you've got a jump pack.
No. No, no, no, no. How on Earth do you sneak up on someone in a mobile suit?! The Gundam clearly has a camera on the back of its head. What, there's nothing in the computer that warns the pilot of a bloody Zaku walking up behind you?!
It's also strange considering most MSs had proximity sensors for this exact reason.
@@Mobius_118 the human is a flawed creatures, sometimes these sensors gives you a false sense of awareness. He might be sensory overload to pay attention.
He could have just uses the gundams thrusters here. Theres another episode were the gundam pretty much flies into the sky and cuts a rocket in half
Remember the gundam was made for space combat not ground combat in earth's gravity so the boosters are gonna have a hard time lifting it especially with the gundarium alloy
@MicahSolosGoku wdym the gundam is shown making huge leaps all the time, such as the scene I already referenced.
ヒートホーク構えてるだけでわかるこの強者感よ…
たまんない………❤
I'm pretty sure Doan Planned for the cliff to fall by getting the gundam to move too much on the edge.
アムロの背後取るのすげーえ
To be Honest, I think Amuro is beginning to win, until the ground start to collapse, called it fate to make Doan did not die.
不意打ちとはいえアムロを倒すのは凄すぎ
Did the gundams rockets magically not work at that moment, or did amuro forget he had them?
what movie/series is this. it looks like og gundam but it's to clean and ... new looking
Cucuruz Doans Island
Cucuruz Doan's Island
It's a movie adaptation of the infamous 15th episode of the original series that got scrubbed from pretty much every release of said series after the first DvD release
This is the Origins OVA
Is it a movie or a series remake? Man, that is awesome. Where do I watch it? What is the name?
2022 movie Cucuruz Doan's Island
2022 movie Cucuruz Doan's Island
0:17 ここ相撲感ある。
Lol, I never thought of that
確かに。相撲だけで勝負つけたらまだ平和なのに。
@@xtm_1234 同感だ
寄り切って琴土庵の勝ち
因みにノベライズ版で崖の崩落が起こらなかったらアムロは着地した隙に殺されていたことが明記されています
なのでアムロは言い逃れできないレベルで敗北しました
まあまだアムロも完全に覚醒してない子供だしね
後付けのストーリーで死児の齢を数えるって、やってて気持ち悪くないか？ｗ
@@4BLOCKERS
リメイクなんだよなぁ…
TV版でもアムロに勝ってる事実は変わらねぇんだ
@@hcdmjqtahqournxqgrjM 覚醒してない子供と比べられる時点でアムロの凄さが分かる
@@Yuna-go1wo
結論
どっちも強い
feels weird how the Movable Frame was supposed to give MS more agility/better movement when OYW suits are shown to be just as agile and poseable with their primitive tech.
The movable frame was more about extending the range of motion possible while maintaining armour strength, the suits likely kept around about the same mobility while being able to up their armour
You are not wrong. It's just that the Origin animators made the OYW suits feel super floaty and agile in this continuity for some reason.
@@averyangrycrow4936but if I recall it's main downside is exactly the opposite - it opens up a new range of humanlike motions, but a the cost of severely reducing structural stability and weakening the armour as you're supposed to dodge enemy fire now rather than taking it (which you wouldn't survive anyway due to everything having beam weaponry). Honestly, it seems movable frame exists only as a plot device and Gundam writers/animators just don't care to keep everything consistent with it.
@@kindlingking Moveable frames gave MSs more structural stability over the semi-monocoque design of OYW MSs by incorporating all of the MSs vitals into the frame itself, allowing for easier maintenance and customization. It essentially solved the problem transformable MSs had with stability during transformation and gave rise to the Zeta line of MSs.
@@xXswagy0l0blazeit420it's definitely more apparent in this entry. The rest of the Origin OVAs only had agile mobile suit movement in space.
Gundam has those head mounted Vulcan cannons perfect in this grapple situation and doesnt use them, and seemingly forgets big heavy mech is in gravity and weight matters xD
Doan:“get your units up”
“White devil”
空中に浮かぶ事は出来なくても、スラスターで落ちる事は無いのでは？
If Amuro needed a hand so bad he could at least throw away his shield instead the beam rifle right? This fight is so stupid.
I mean, I know it’s fiction and as such it needs to add some extrq drama, but I wonder who the heck would accept piloting a vehicle that systematically EXPLODES and kills everyone inside and around it when it’s hit 🤷🏻
Well, I think the mobile suit was designed for space combat i mean even when you survive in space doesn't mean you will survive for long enough to evaquate you from the combat zone
So that's why they didn't make some survivable mobile suit but in Gundam Thunderbolt i see io flaming survive by detaching his gundam and his core i don't know much about gundam parts but yeah you can survive depend what mobile suit you use
Aneheim Electronic or Zeon Republic(funny thing these guys are litteraly space n4z1)
@bamantioindrahidayat1165 both sides didn't even try to make a survivable mobile suit, the mass produced gundam RGM 79 actually was never able to detach its core the only variant that could detach its core was Thunderbolt variant
MS at this time were nuclear powered and designed for space. An MS reactor wasn’t guaranteed to blow, and at this point the explosions were relatively small, and sometimes they do just disable from damage and pilots will even try to do just that. When beam weapons became more common the chain reactions likewise happened more, since beams always cause a reaction if they hit the reactor. In space, where these machines were primarily designed to operate, this isn’t too bad but it’s devastating in atmosphere. A good example is the first episode of Unicorn where a ReZel goes nuclear and obliterates entire blocks in a colony and even puts a hole in it.
tl;dr MS being powered by reactors is the reason they sometimes blow. In space this isn’t as big a deal and tbh when you’re hit in space you’re usually dead anyway.
Anyone ever questioned how HEAT hawk can block BEAM saber?
It was also in the original series
Which gundam serice is this from ?
Cucuruz doan's island ova
It's a remake of First Gundam episode 15, The Island of Kukursudan.
its on crunchyroll in US
It's an OVA movie, called Cucuruz Doan's Island, based in the "Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin" timeline.
What version of the show is this
Imagine a Alternative reality that Doan becomes the new pilot lol
Which movie is this
So..why did Amuro decide to throw away the beam gun and push Doan away.. instead of using the thrusters on his backpack?
From what movie is this
Cucuruz Doan's Island
It's a movie adaptation of the infamous 15th episode of the original series that got scrubbed from pretty much every release of said series after the first DvD release
what movie is this?
「機動戦士ガンダムククルス・ドアンの島
(MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM Cucuruz Doan's Island)」
Show? Movie name?
Shutup kid
阿姆羅是否忘了鋼彈有噴射背包？
ex, can I know name of this Gundam's movie/ tv series?
Cucuruz Doan's Island
It's a movie adaptation of the infamous 15th episode of the original series that got scrubbed from pretty much every release of said series after the first DvD release
Name of the serie?
Is this a movie or a newer series? Where can I see this?
Why did Doan not use the heat hawk as his first strike
Doan is Trying to Preserve his Things as Much as Possible. He has already Deserted from Zeon Army, so he cant Afford To Lose his Weapons or even Energy for the Heat Axe.
Is this a movie?
Yes
What kind if this movie? So modern
It's Cucuruz, Doan's Island. Apparently it's a movie adaptation of one of the original anime's cut episodes.
How did a guy sneak in a gundam suit
Can someone tells me the anime's name please?
RX-78-02, strongest plot armor in mecha history
Grandpa looks awesome.
ヒートホークって強度的に一度対象にぶち当てたらぶっ壊れると思う
ガンダムの盾を切ったくらいだからね
What gundam series is this???
Why does his zaku look so different
バルカンがあるのになぜ使わないんだ？
Which show is this?
Which Gundam series is this from??
it is remake?? name pls?!
Mobile Suit Gundam: Cucuruz Doan's Island
What gundam show is this? Id like to watch it :)
Cucuruz Doan's Island
何でいつも、ザクとガンダムは崖で戦うか。
He should have went with light, but fast swift slashes instead of a powered up overhead smash. Especially once he saw that Zaku had that dash.
Amuro wasnt Great yet at thIs Point. His Newtype Senses for Battle has not yet Awakened.
@@SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited ok I'm glad then because that means there's a lot of time for the series to grow
It reminds me of the Seed fight 🤯
Where the guy is is a basic Gundam protecting the gunships. That scene is SO GOOD. The Gundam s feel real and weighted@@SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited
@@xIcyStarzz-yz7my well Seed is Very Influenced by UC, aka The Original Mobile Suit Gundam 0079 Anime and Its Timeline Further up to Victory Gundam.
@@SpultoBNMTheMutuallyUnrequited that's it. 0079... I cannot wait to re watch
基本仕様のザクにあの機動性は無い！！！
シャア専用ザクのリミット解除の３倍モードでない限りあの近距離からのビームサーベルを瞬時にかわせない！
ランバ・ラルのグフですら無理だったのに
What is this from?
これ観に行ったけど面白かったよ
Why does Amuro suck at fighting on earth? Isn't he supposed to be unbeatable? Maybe only in space?
Doan was a coward that struck from behind. never forget how the movie started.
To be Completely Fair, He was up against a Gundam. Of course he is Not going to take Chances by trying to Alert the Gundam of his Presence for a Duel.
You've got to take into account his current circumstances living in the island. He had people to protect all while making full use of a decidely shit mobile suit made even shittier by its current state of disrepair.
Ambush tactics are literally his only recourse if he wanted to make it out of most of his battles alive.
I remember face Doan in Game Version, he was F@CKING annoying as he dodges all my attacks!
Digitally-rendered Mobile Suits look weird.
Which Gundam show is this from?
It’s a movie that is called mobile suit gundam Curucruz Doan island or something just search that up and you should find it
Stupid question
I'll never fight someone named doan, because there's a chance his last name is Al
そのザクのパイロットは誰？
Amuro Ray Pilot Vs Gundam Zaku
Bow if he had only taken out the axe beforehand isntead of wrestling
If you sneak up on Amuro in his Gundam why not just shoot him in the back or use your heat axe why do the pushing?
amuro is a Superhuman, so basicly he can predict few second and super instinct
@@Rey_anims Sure but that guy did sneak up on him and didn't take advantage of it.
@@Rey_animsHe didn’t feel him coming from behind though!
Anime name?
It's anime
What IS this Gundam wing?
a Movie for the Original Mobile Suit Gundam 0079 (The Original Gundam Series) based on a Specific Episode of the Original Series that looks So incredibly Bad compared to the Other Episodes, but has a Lovable Character Like Cucuruz Doan, so its a Great Episode to base off for a up to Date Animated Movie to Fix it. Tho its not 100% directly based on the Original, since It more Leans on the Mobile Suit Gundam: Origin Timeline, which is an AU like Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt rather than the Original Timeline.
Did Amuro forget he got vulcan guns on his Gundam's head? I remember he did use that weapon later half of the show on another Zaku? This fight is shit and stupid af tbh.
What anime
Anime what
量産型ザクはこんなに俊敏に動けないから違和感
なんで崖を背にしてる状況から逃げないんだ？俺がアムロならそうはしない！
下手にジャンプしたらドアンに隙をさらすから
あと単純にドアンが強すぎてその余裕が無い
Really, he throw away his beam rifle. I mean I get it he's just a kid. But come on, he could have at least attached it to the back of his mobile suit. Or create distance between him and the Zaku to shoot it.
Yeah I think there are some pretty distasteful action sequences across the whole movie, on top of having characters making strange decisions in combat. The action almost feels limited in some scenes because of that. I think this is the result of unimaginative direction from project leads like the director.
ドアンの斧はブンブンするのわかるけどビームサーベルは振り回す意味ある？リーチ活かしてコチョコチョするだけで勝てるやろ。
・まずそんな攻撃がドアンに通じるわけ無い
・そもそもフェンシングの動きができるのはギャンだけという設定
・アムロはビームサーベル居合いが得意でランバ・ラルのグフを撃破してる
OK？
@@hcdmjqtahqournxqgrjM
そもそもこの世界のビームに質量があるかどうかわかんないんだけど、仮にビーム部に質量がない場合取り回しがもう少し楽なのでは？と思ったり。少なくとも鈍器に近いザク斧よりは軽いはずだしどうせ振り回すんならもっと軽快になるような？？？
薪割り斧と百均スポンジ剣くらい質量に差があってもおかしくないと思うんだけど。
あとビーム刃は通常刃物や鈍器と違うので、刃を走らせたり運動の力を乗せてぶん殴ったりする必要がなくどちらかというと押し当てたり薙ぎ払ったりする戦い方になると思うんだよなぁ。
なんかの資料でヒート剣✖︎ビームサーベル、ビームサーベル✖︎ビームサーベルが鍔迫り合いすることに強引な説明がされてるの見たことあるから、まぁ殺陣として斬り合いが成立するのは良しとして、ヒート武器とビームサーベルはレンジ帯こそ同じものの武器の性質は全く異なるからアクションも全く違うものになるのではないかと。
ドアンがーとかアムロがーって言う話なら他のパイロットの場合は？ってことにもなるし、誰かこの辺のアクションについて納得できる考察ください。メタい話は抜きで。
ちなみに鉄血みたいに鈍器×鈍器で殴り合うのは大好物です。
@@odeco936
ビームサーベルの描写についてはハッキリ言って作品ごとにバラバラだからあんまし気にしない方がいい
特に初代ガンダムとオリジンはMSが人間的な動きをするし
ドアンの強さに関しては本編観ろとしか言えない
説得力のある強さだから
ただフェンシングみたいに突きを連続する動きはギャンしか出来ない設定なのはマジ
@@hcdmjqtahqournxqgrjM ジムスナみたいなボックスタイプでもツンツン攻撃できんてこと？
アムロ相手に気づかれず組み付いてきたり、格闘戦でチャンバラできる相手にツンツンしてるだけで勝てると思ってんの？ｗ
The Originの時系列だと、ジャブロー戦の後だから、シャアのズゴックをジムで(ウッディ大尉のファンファンがいたといえ)相手した後なんだよね。それでドアンが乗っているとはいえ、ガンダムでザク相手に苦戦してるのは、今更ながらなんか違和感。。。
更にあとにシャアザクと対峙した時も、シャアが気を逸らした瞬間を討ち取ったといえ、足場の悪いジブラルタルの岩山の上で赤い彗星と互角に鍔迫り合いしてたし。それこそこのドアンとの出会いやベルファスト・大西洋の戦いで急成長したのかもしれないけど、あまりにも初期のアムロ感が強すぎる
作画監督が入院して作画崩壊を起こしただけなのに、オリジナルドアンザクと言い張って商品化し始めるバンダイに寒さを感じる
Então acabando com os gráficos dos animes
ドアンザク最強説
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lol 🌊🌊
怯えた表情の奴が半分になったとはいえ盾捨てたりはせんやろｗ
そんな顔する新兵はＡＰＥＸで言うところのまけるわけないバッテまきながら撃たれて死んだり後ろ向いて逃げて一方的殺される奴みたいな動きするんじゃね？
Silliness.
No it's not,just because the guy who won wasn't the one you've expected. Clown.
I agree; your comment appears very silly to me as well.
Animation is awesome but this is such a shitty let down of a fight lol
It was More of just an Opening for the Movie more than Anything.
背後から組み付く意味不明。攻撃しろよ
ビームライフル海に捨てる意味不明。回収できる前方に投げろ
脇腹ブローは解るけど、組み付かれてるのに左のシールドで押し返せるはずは無い。
シールド切られて時間差で両断？真っ二つ
崖が崩れてもバーニア噴射で落ちることはない。落ちても衝撃を和らげるので気絶しない
それで？そのあとどうやってストーリーをすすめるの？そこでガンダムが破壊されてこの映画終わり？エンタメを何だと思ってんの？
だから？
@@rodokinko うわ・・・質問に質問で返すいちばんダサいやつ・・・
「俺の言うとおりにすればこの映画はもっとおもしろくなるんだ」くらい言ってくれよ。
ただケチをつけたかっただけなのかよ。
baited GG
bro doesnt know how to use his jetpack😑😒🙄🤦♂️
He's still stupid noob
Tbh this fight is bs.
もうロボット(モビルスーツ)の動きやないやろ