Tells you what you need to know, when the first time Bill DeWitt III spoke after being asked about MLB payroll, he almost immediately shifted into blaming the fans and referencing attendance. You're the 4th richest owners in MLB, you have the resources to draw fans back and fix the player development pipeline without sacrificing the MLB team payroll in the mean time. But no, make your fans the scapegoats, that will put butts back in seats.
My biggest issue with this is Mo and Chaim coming out and saying that things need to change and that's what we're gonna do, then the DeWitt's start chiming in and are completely unwilling to accept any blame or really even admit that anything is really wrong, just that "the league is changing so they need to change too". Then, Mo... and to some extent, Chaim... start walking back the aggressive nature of how they started this presser and start leaning more towards the DeWitt's "well, it's not really broken, we're just gonna tighten it up a bit." Basically, it sounds like the DeWitt's are too proud to admit that they've let the city/fans down with incompetence. They're too busy trying to point back at former success to acknowledge that this team is in bad shape, and they're too arrogant to admit that this is more lip service and they think they can speak over the fans to keep them on the hook. Maybe changes will be made, but just giving Chaim more responsibility and announcing that he will be the man in charge AFTER next season is not enough. Keeping Mo and Oli in their current roles, even for one more year, is telling the fans that they're not really fully on board with a hard reset. More like a slight shuffling.
So as much as things "so call change" they stay the same! @DeWitt you thought a drop of attendance in 2024 was idk was crazy, surprising, warrented. Wait til 2025. With the same fools in charge, We Fans DONT DO CRAZY. We will be back in Busch seats when Mo and Marmol are gone. Pray for 2026.
@@ford9490Marmol is an absolute trash manager. Never played in the bigs so he don’t know how to manage it. He blew a lot of games with bad decisions. Plus the players don’t seem to respect him.
@@sparkysparky19 just because he didn’t play in the big league doesn’t mean he doesn’t know how to manage it? He managed our palm beach affiliate and did fine so obviously you have no idea what you’re talking about so just stick to watching games and be a good lil cardinals fan. P.S. Next time bring a legitimate argument with legitimate reasons.
its crazy that mozeliak is talking about change, when his position is the one that needs to be changed the most, followed by marmol. having a lame duck in that position is just beyond baffling. buddy drove this franchise into the ground. talking about his 2011 WS... that was 13 years ago. all the success he saw was from players that were already cornerstones of the franchise. just incredibly disappointed with this news.
How about the DeWITT'S??? They are the problem.. They are more worried about filling seats than have a great team.. The DeWitt's time is up and it is time for new ownership... GREED has totally gutted this team...
@@bones1271 hit it on the head. I can't stand them. They need to sell the team. I usually go to Busch every year. I won't be going to Busch next year. I'll drive to Milwaukee or Shitcago before going to Busch to support the DimWitt family
As soon as Woo started the tough questions and the rest of the media followed suit, of course it was time to cut the presser short. I mean why have any accountability in this organization when there hasn’t been any since Jocketty got fired?
You have me so messed up this team is horrible. CHANGE IS NEEDED like you said and that’s starts with dropping mo and marmol. YOUR ATTENDANCE IS AT A ALL TIME LOW. This is horrible you all no longer know how to run a team for the love of god please get good staff. And drop the old trash ones.
Bowtie Jonny anticipates payroll going down, says all I need to know. Billy the third says attendance is pretty good compared to some other teams. Bull shit excuses, platitudes and jargon. No real solutions
How did Dewitt pay for ballpark village. Did he divert funds from the cardinals organization to build it. Last year payroll was somewhere around $165 million. They couldn’t have spent $5 million less on the team and put it to the minors
@@ford9490Marmol decisions all seem to fail, his game management is that of a JUCO coach. Why is it when our players leave or get traded they get better? Simple, cardinals have poor leadership.
I think there is alot of reasons but the main reason and what I see are that the cardinals are behind in every facet of the game.. the rule changes changed baseball strategy and management never took notice. and the fact they got up there and said what they did explains that fact.. cards sucked the past 2 years so there's the best reason there.
Bloom is a great fit in St Louis! I'm excited to see how his vision unfolds. Mo does deserve more respect for the moves over the years. Heyward, Beltran, Arenado, and Goldy were great players he brought in. I do think he left a lot on the table lately, and Chaim looks to be a great reset button for the org.
MO was given a Rolls Royce and he turned it into a run down pinto !! A pinto that now needs a complete over haul !! I won't be back till this clueless screw up is gone. Period..
I’m not a doctor, it appears that BWII is exhibiting symptoms of Parkinson’s disease. I would know as I have lived with the disease for almost 12 years. If so, I hope he is not putting himself through unnecessary stress, as this can only worsen the symptoms.
Well…guess I won’t be going to any games in 2025 either!!! 3 year strike for me and my 17 year old son!!! Not until big changes are made…Mo and Oli gotta go!
Rebuild without admitting they're rebuilding. All the big name players will be gone - a fire sale to make the team younger, and they can keep from spending money. Whether you like it or not, Oli isn't going anywhere. Besides what manager wants to come into a situation like this??
It is time for NEW OWNERSHIP and John Mozeliak FIRED!!! These idiots do not have a clue and the fans are turning on them all... They are more worried about filling the stands than have a great team... They do not have a clue and have run this team in the ground over GREED...
I would have loved to have heard this question posed to Mozeliak….”Mo, what rotten bill of goods did you sell to Arenado to get him to opt in because he was all about winning a championship and guys are all about pinching pennies and cutting corners?”
Funny Mo had one losing season and you're gone, that's life. You either win or you lose, if you lose, well your're gone. Nothing new under the sun. F it.
Typical, just like at my job......the owners/front office/slick pants don't actually know what the hell is going on like the blue collar workers and fans do.....i can't stand to listen to Mo talk. He's f#@cking clueless.
What a waste of time. Glad I listened to it while fishing. Otherwise I would have wasted 26 minutes. Why have a presser when you leak or pour out all the information before hand. Plus how do you hold your players accountable when you don’t hold your leadership accountable. Good grief.
How about spending some $ fellas? A few more investments like Sonny seem to be in order. One or two big time/veteran bats wouldn't hurt. Listen to your players like Contreras. They know what is what.
Is it just me or do the Cardinals really like Jewish people at the top? Sounds like we are going to cut payroll, lose games, get high draft picks and rebuild. Should have a good team in the 2030's. We just have to hold on lol. I don't think the organization is going to like the empty seats. That's not going to attract any good players to come.
A strong group of young players? You’ve screwed up Walker and hopefully he can rebound after this last call up. Winn is the only guy I have any hope for right now. Bill, your problem is all you do is live in the past. Especially when it comes to Mozeliak. Other teams actually hold their executives accountable yet you let the man continue to wave his “I won the 2011 World Series” flag for the last 13 years. He’s traded off numerous assets that have gone on to bigger and better things while getting nothing in return. It’s sad you allowed this to go on this long because this didn’t need to happen. Mozeliak has hidden behind the work of Jocketty and Lunhow and you continue to herald him as if he’s Branch Rickey. Your showing today was embarrassing.
You all are a bunch of cry baby fair weather fans. Mo has brought us matt holiday, johnny perltra, brought back pujols. Baseball has to be played in the feild the players have to perform mo is a a good leader we are fine .
It really seems like Cardinal fans have become so fair weathered these days. I realize last year was a horrible season. But this team did improve by 12 games this season. It wasn’t enough to get into the postseason. But all of the bashing is really making our fans look like the worst in baseball. Believe it or not, the Cardinals won the same amount of games in 2006 as this year. Before the Cardinals won in 2006, it had been 24 years since they had won a World Series. Was there this kind of energy from fans during that 24 year span? I think not. And there were several years of missing the playoffs. Including 2010, the year before they proceeded to go to 4 straight NLCS. It really feels like fans got spoiled by this team’s overall success from 2004 to 2015. Fans need to realize how rare the talent was during those times. Pujols, Molina, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran, Chris Carpenter, Wainright, etc. I don’t think fans realize just how hard it is for a team with mostly an average payroll to have a collection of talent like that. I am a diehard fan now and always will be no matter what. That’s what being a fan truly means. Remaining loyal to your team through good and bad.
How did Dewitt pay for ballpark village. Did he divert funds from the cardinals organization to build it. Last year payroll was somewhere around $165 million. They couldn’t have spent $5 million less on the team and put it to the minors
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So nothing if has changed. Man Dewitt has fucked this team up.
Facts. Force them to sell the team!
So there’s no plan
Tells you what you need to know, when the first time Bill DeWitt III spoke after being asked about MLB payroll, he almost immediately shifted into blaming the fans and referencing attendance. You're the 4th richest owners in MLB, you have the resources to draw fans back and fix the player development pipeline without sacrificing the MLB team payroll in the mean time. But no, make your fans the scapegoats, that will put butts back in seats.
I'll give Milwaukee my money to my Redbirds before the DeWitt's. Screw em. Don't fill the seats. Honestly I hope opening day is empty at Busch
Introducing The Gaslight Gang!
........From "Birds on the Bat" to "Pigeons on a Stick!"
This stupid conference was a joke!!
Bill DeWitt and John Mozeliak spoiled and wasted the best years of Nolan Arenado and Paul Goldschmidt
The same poor bullshit year to year!!
I want to cry! I love Cardinals but the main office is screwing in everything
My biggest issue with this is Mo and Chaim coming out and saying that things need to change and that's what we're gonna do, then the DeWitt's start chiming in and are completely unwilling to accept any blame or really even admit that anything is really wrong, just that "the league is changing so they need to change too". Then, Mo... and to some extent, Chaim... start walking back the aggressive nature of how they started this presser and start leaning more towards the DeWitt's "well, it's not really broken, we're just gonna tighten it up a bit." Basically, it sounds like the DeWitt's are too proud to admit that they've let the city/fans down with incompetence. They're too busy trying to point back at former success to acknowledge that this team is in bad shape, and they're too arrogant to admit that this is more lip service and they think they can speak over the fans to keep them on the hook. Maybe changes will be made, but just giving Chaim more responsibility and announcing that he will be the man in charge AFTER next season is not enough. Keeping Mo and Oli in their current roles, even for one more year, is telling the fans that they're not really fully on board with a hard reset. More like a slight shuffling.
Yes exactly!!!!!
Yeah, a "succession plan"
Dewitt is just an old frail man lost in the late 2000's early 2010's. He still probably thinks Mozeliak is doing a great job. Good grief.
Get mo and oli out of here they are the problem
6 division titles since 2008… for the St. Louis cardinals.
That’s good enough for you? We’ll never win anything with Mo and Oli
So as much as things "so call change" they stay the same! @DeWitt you thought a drop of attendance in 2024 was idk was crazy, surprising, warrented. Wait til 2025. With the same fools in charge, We Fans DONT DO CRAZY. We will be back in Busch seats when Mo and Marmol are gone. Pray for 2026.
*Pretty ran down same old words and phrases and cliché sentences. Nothing really of a substance.*
"Just be patient?" ..... Remember that one?
Just lost me until Mosailok and Marmol are gone. I don't do arrogance. I'll check back when this organization gets serious again.
The smugness from the DeWitt's pisses me off. Moz is an asshat
Mo said his last year is 2025
So one more year!! 🙄
How is it marmol’s fault? Just because you aren’t happy with the organization doesn’t mean everyone in it needs to go.
@@ford9490Marmol is an absolute trash manager. Never played in the bigs so he don’t know how to manage it. He blew a lot of games with bad decisions. Plus the players don’t seem to respect him.
@@sparkysparky19 just because he didn’t play in the big league doesn’t mean he doesn’t know how to manage it? He managed our palm beach affiliate and did fine so obviously you have no idea what you’re talking about so just stick to watching games and be a good lil cardinals fan. P.S. Next time bring a legitimate argument with legitimate reasons.
its crazy that mozeliak is talking about change, when his position is the one that needs to be changed the most, followed by marmol. having a lame duck in that position is just beyond baffling. buddy drove this franchise into the ground. talking about his 2011 WS... that was 13 years ago. all the success he saw was from players that were already cornerstones of the franchise. just incredibly disappointed with this news.
All I heard was word salad. When DimWitt III started babbling on about fans paying for a app to watch the games my remote went "Click."
@@robertcrist5747well, have fun trying to watch Cardinals games when RSO's are disappearing.
How about the DeWITT'S??? They are the problem.. They are more worried about filling seats than have a great team.. The DeWitt's time is up and it is time for new ownership... GREED has totally gutted this team...
@@bones1271 the Dewitt's brought us from the 18th best team (.485) to the 5th best team (.541).
@@bones1271 hit it on the head. I can't stand them. They need to sell the team. I usually go to Busch every year. I won't be going to Busch next year. I'll drive to Milwaukee or Shitcago before going to Busch to support the DimWitt family
As soon as Woo started the tough questions and the rest of the media followed suit, of course it was time to cut the presser short. I mean why have any accountability in this organization when there hasn’t been any since Jocketty got fired?
Bill Dewitt Jr. after the mics shut off "Well Mo, do you think the rubes bought it?"
Not till oli and mo are gone
I see the fans have an overwhelming support for this move! People are raving….
Said no one ever.
You have me so messed up this team is horrible. CHANGE IS NEEDED like you said and that’s starts with dropping mo and marmol. YOUR ATTENDANCE IS AT A ALL TIME LOW. This is horrible you all no longer know how to run a team for the love of god please get good staff. And drop the old trash ones.
These guys all breed excitement, the energy behind that press table just exudes pent up energy ready to win.
I hope your being sarcastic
@@kingsecho3351 sarcasm is all I have at this point
Make the Cardinals great again
Love this play on Trumps slogan! Trump 2024.
Sad please keep aronodo and goldey and helsley
Please
Bowtie Jonny anticipates payroll going down, says all I need to know. Billy the third says attendance is pretty good compared to some other teams. Bull shit excuses, platitudes and jargon. No real solutions
I sure will be glad to see Mo go!!!
How about doing a presser and speak from the heart and not stare at a damn piece of paper!
I hope the stadium looks like an Oakland A's crowd next year...we need to boycott the front office, i know i am. Quit going to games people!!!!!
Player procurement and the ruining process takes time to make good baseball players horrible. All we ask is that you give us patience.
How did Dewitt pay for ballpark village. Did he divert funds from the cardinals organization to build it. Last year payroll was somewhere around $165 million. They couldn’t have spent $5 million less on the team and put it to the minors
The problem is mo and marmol period
You say there’s a problem, but yet you won’t explain the problem.. marmol isn’t a issue
@@austinbrenning6615
The problem is the stupid old man Bill deWitt is a stingy!!
And Mo is a liar slave...
@@ford9490Marmol decisions all seem to fail, his game management is that of a JUCO coach. Why is it when our players leave or get traded they get better? Simple, cardinals have poor leadership.
@@hyperkoala1758I swear all you wannabe “fans” have no clue what you’re talking about
I think there is alot of reasons but the main reason and what I see are that the cardinals are behind in every facet of the game.. the rule changes changed baseball strategy and management never took notice. and the fact they got up there and said what they did explains that fact.. cards sucked the past 2 years so there's the best reason there.
Don’t care what you say Mo has done a hell of a job he deserves our gratitude.
Keep giving the front office excuses to fail.
Bloom is a great fit in St Louis! I'm excited to see how his vision unfolds. Mo does deserve more respect for the moves over the years. Heyward, Beltran, Arenado, and Goldy were great players he brought in. I do think he left a lot on the table lately, and Chaim looks to be a great reset button for the org.
He’s traded so many good players for crap
@cambob42069 red sox owners forced it
MO was given a Rolls Royce and he turned it into a run down pinto !! A pinto that now needs a complete over haul !! I won't be back till this clueless screw up is gone. Period..
I’m not a doctor, it appears that BWII is exhibiting symptoms of Parkinson’s disease. I would know as I have lived with the disease for almost 12 years. If so, I hope he is not putting himself through unnecessary stress, as this can only worsen the symptoms.
Well…guess I won’t be going to any games in 2025 either!!! 3 year strike for me and my 17 year old son!!! Not until big changes are made…Mo and Oli gotta go!
They should have kept Schildt as manager. Marmol has no clue how to run the club. Mo has got to go as well.
For the love of god please fire someone
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Why is Mo acting like this is a presidential ahhh speech 😂😂😂
Rebuild without admitting they're rebuilding.
All the big name players will be gone - a fire sale to make the team younger, and they can keep from spending money.
Whether you like it or not, Oli isn't going anywhere.
Besides what manager wants to come into a situation like this??
It is time for NEW OWNERSHIP and John Mozeliak FIRED!!! These idiots do not have a clue and the fans are turning on them all... They are more worried about filling the stands than have a great team... They do not have a clue and have run this team in the ground over GREED...
Ain’t getting better will Oli there. And what technology? Are they finally gonna invest in a phone so they can see how angry the fan base is online?
I would have loved to have heard this question posed to Mozeliak….”Mo, what rotten bill of goods did you sell to Arenado to get him to opt in because he was all about winning a championship and guys are all about pinching pennies and cutting corners?”
MO has wasted so much of this owners money, he should volunteer his salary in 2025.
The fans are not going to show up in year 25.
Sounds like we are going to turn into the Oakland A’s if the NL now…..😑
Funny Mo had one losing season and you're gone, that's life. You either win or you lose, if you lose, well your're gone. Nothing new under the sun. F it.
Sign Roki sasaki
Chagrin...definitely chagrin...
Diwitts you want me to come to a game fire mo now
And Marmol! Mozeliak is a smug bastard.
Yeah, what a fuckin bust
That's a bull jive press conference..
Cards will never win a world series anytime soon....
I'm not buying into this..
Daddy Dewitt is in denial 😂😂😂
Typical, just like at my job......the owners/front office/slick pants don't actually know what the hell is going on like the blue collar workers and fans do.....i can't stand to listen to Mo talk. He's f#@cking clueless.
He has to read his speech what bs
so tired of hearing excuses
What a waste of time. Glad I listened to it while fishing. Otherwise I would have wasted 26 minutes. Why have a presser when you leak or pour out all the information before hand. Plus how do you hold your players accountable when you don’t hold your leadership accountable. Good grief.
Mo should've been gone years ago.
How about spending some $ fellas? A few more investments like Sonny seem to be in order. One or two big time/veteran bats wouldn't hurt. Listen to your players like Contreras. They know what is what.
🤣
Sell the team
Is it just me or do the Cardinals really like Jewish people at the top? Sounds like we are going to cut payroll, lose games, get high draft picks and rebuild. Should have a good team in the 2030's. We just have to hold on lol. I don't think the organization is going to like the empty seats. That's not going to attract any good players to come.
Well the future pobo is an actual Jew so 😂
A strong group of young players? You’ve screwed up Walker and hopefully he can rebound after this last call up. Winn is the only guy I have any hope for right now. Bill, your problem is all you do is live in the past. Especially when it comes to Mozeliak. Other teams actually hold their executives accountable yet you let the man continue to wave his “I won the 2011 World Series” flag for the last 13 years. He’s traded off numerous assets that have gone on to bigger and better things while getting nothing in return. It’s sad you allowed this to go on this long because this didn’t need to happen. Mozeliak has hidden behind the work of Jocketty and Lunhow and you continue to herald him as if he’s Branch Rickey. Your showing today was embarrassing.
You all are a bunch of cry baby fair weather fans. Mo has brought us matt holiday, johnny perltra, brought back pujols. Baseball has to be played in the feild the players have to perform mo is a a good leader we are fine .
It really seems like Cardinal fans have become so fair weathered these days. I realize last year was a horrible season. But this team did improve by 12 games this season. It wasn’t enough to get into the postseason. But all of the bashing is really making our fans look like the worst in baseball. Believe it or not, the Cardinals won the same amount of games in 2006 as this year.
Before the Cardinals won in 2006, it had been 24 years since they had won a World Series. Was there this kind of energy from fans during that 24 year span? I think not. And there were several years of missing the playoffs. Including 2010, the year before they proceeded to go to 4 straight NLCS. It really feels like fans got spoiled by this team’s overall success from 2004 to 2015. Fans need to realize how rare the talent was during those times. Pujols, Molina, Edmonds, Rolen, Holliday, Berkman, Beltran, Chris Carpenter, Wainright, etc. I don’t think fans realize just how hard it is for a team with mostly an average payroll to have a collection of talent like that. I am a diehard fan now and always will be no matter what. That’s what being a fan truly means. Remaining loyal to your team through good and bad.
BDJ kept quoting Bloom but funny how he couldn’t quote Mozeliak yet he continues to die on Mozeliak’s hill.
How did Dewitt pay for ballpark village. Did he divert funds from the cardinals organization to build it. Last year payroll was somewhere around $165 million. They couldn’t have spent $5 million less on the team and put it to the minors