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QANTAS - Are They Premium Enough?... Melbourne - Perth | Economy Class
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ธ.ค. 2022
- In the 2nd installment of this trip, I embark on a transcontinental flight across the country to WA. It is always a more comfortable ride on the Airbus A330, which is why I specifically chose this flight. I am really destined for Kalgoorlie so this video will cover the first sector to Perth where I will transit for a little bit.
Now that QF is the only full service carrier in Australia, are they premium enough? This is the question I aim to answer in this video. I will also show you what's being offered in economy and business class. Then you can decide for yourself if it is worth it paying that premium to get on the flying kangaroo.
Please enjoy the video.
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Take note that my flight arrived in Perth and docked at Terminal 4, Not Terminal 3.
I flown on the Qantas a330 from Perth to Sydney back in 2021 it was a very good experience some things could’ve been better but qantas staff at Perth and Sydney were so kind! The airline and staff also had to go and work through Covid so i love that qantas staff just kept being nice. I feel asleep on the plane to Sydney as it was a red eye and cabin crew gave me a box of lint chocolates so nice! There wasn’t any IFE but everyone didn’t mind i personally think qantas are premium but they do charge a lot but i think its semi worth it keep it up qantas staff!
I have the utmost respect and admiration for QF staff! They bravely front customers when the management has stripped the once proud airline bare. These days QF is just a glorified shadow of its former self, which is very sad to see. Thanks for popping by!
My sons friend is a Qantas maintenance technician and about 12 years ago qantas wanted to do all their maintenance offshore. The technicians went on strike, not just because of possible job threats but because of the 💯 safety record being threatened. The guys take pride in that record. Boeing used to check the fleet and said that Qantas maintenance was a higher standard than they required!
🙏 it hasn’t happened, maintenance is still carried out in Australia. So they didn’t save money as they thought, other service shouldn’t suffer.
I have noticed on utube that most of the Qantas reviewers are Australian, hard to find ones from other places to see their opinions.
Good and thoughtful video 👍thank you, I’m glad you raised the issue of service and standards.
Qantas is just like any other private company, they'll try to save a dime here and there wherever they can. At the end of the day, its all about the bottom line. But safety isn't compromised, that's what I like. I just have an issue with what they're charging us to fly, versus what they offer.
I am a former Qantas LAME B747-400 and RR Rb211-524G/H. The company in the 80s to 2000s spent huge money on home base maintenance.
But it became uncompetitive as cheaper labor OS and safer smarter new aircraft have arrived. TBH the modern aircraft are so good that line maintenance is only required in Australia.
Heavy maintenance is done at dedicated facility for a type to serve all airlines. it is far more cost effective.
@@gigaboat the Aussie labour cost is a curse to keeping jobs onshore.
Virgin Australia has much the same service as QANTAS, for about half the price, sure, no free meals, but a snack is all one needs on a 4 hour trip, especially if you’re a lounge member.
Lounge access is a God sent.
agreed, i fly virgin and if im after a meal i can just buy a meal in the terminal, and still ends up being cheaper than qantas base fare, i usually dont like the complimentary food qantas has either
i love your quirky and honest remarks about your flight. honesty is the BEST policy. considering Qantas was the dearest flight to Perth, i was NOT impressed. its now march 2023 and only yesterday on the news, it said Qantas made billions of dollars just last year.. well we all know how - the dearest flights and not much food etc. And for the wifi to cut out as well, id be pretty annoyed if i had paid the dearest fare to W.A. and had that happen. I like how you present your experience, so will subscribe. thank you for your honest. oh and btw, i never knew that even if you flew economy - your still entitled to the Qantas lounge for a free meal before boarding
Thanks for the sub! Well, I'm a member of QANTAS Club, that explains why I have lounge access even in economy class.
Thanks for the video Ryan have to totally agree with your comments regarding the standard of the QANTAS product having just returned from Bangkok after flying QANTAS return from Sydney - Dinner service the brown box with a drink followed by an ice block - breakfast was only a Bacon and Egg pastry , No Wifi onboard - For the prices they are charging QANTAS really need to lift their standards They won't take notice of the average passenger. so more videos like your own need to be posted.
Well, according to QF spin doctors - the airline is now in post Covid recovery mode. Which is why these cuts are now being made in an effort to bring the airline back into the black. But my fear is these cutbacks will remain permanent because the bean counters would look at the numbers and be pleased by what they see. It is all a numbers game, unfortunately. Thanks for your comment though!
I agree QF used to be the pride and joy of Australia but sadly now its not the best
OHHH So excited that I've got a couple of Ryan travel videos to catch up on. You've changed your intro music! You, like Aidan, spend more time in Melbourne than antwhere else. You should just move here. haha I recently flew QF MEL - SYD in premium and felt the service and offerings were on par to pre-Covid. Catering was single tray service though. However, the time before when I flew in Y, I would absolutely agree that the line between premium and LCC is getting blurred. Good to see you eat some salad, Ryan. Love the 332. The economy seats look pretty comfy. Wait, if Target more premium than Kmart? haha I'm chunkier than you so that Y seat is a little tighter for me. haha The meatballs actually looked pretty good to me. It actually beats the meal i got on domestic MH business class. Admittedly, the flight was shorter and significantly cheaper than even Y on QF.
Yes I'm trying to wean myself away from the old soundtracks with all the copyright claims etc. Annoying. Melbourne is so much easier to travel from compared to Adelaide, might explain why I'm always there. Haha...
Enjoyed this flight report Ryan . I love the A330 family , it’s a brilliant type for the travelling couple with its 2-4-2 seating . I much rather prefer the A330 to the 787 , controversial ! I know . Looking forward to the F100 flight and the train trip too . Cheers mate .👍
The A330 is also my fave. There's something so elegant about that aircraft, especially in landing configuration. Looks like an eagle!
I flew this route back in august on QF773 when it was the morning departure.
Tracked past the northern side of robe… then over ocean for a couple of hours. Was a beautiful day! As per your thoughts regarding Qantas…. I guess since 90% of the time I am using points and pay tax’s, the prices don’t really affect me and after my experiences with VA and JQ this year…QF is still my preferred in Australia. I am just happy to be flying again… the airlines have struggled in the last couple of years… so I’d be interested to see what happens in another 3/5 years…
Suppose there is no incentive for QF to improve their offerings.
Great flight video as usual. I totally agree with you about the decline of service on Qantas. I certainly wouldn't fly with them internationally for the prices they charge ... The chocolate looks good ... were they salty chocolate balls? My fave ... 😈😎🥂
Oooooh yes, love my salty ones too. 😏
I fly Qantas a few times a month on the Perth to Melbourne return route. Every flight I have taken with them has been delayed so I'm not quite sure where they get the on-time performance from.Wifi has also not worked on every flight causing staff to have to reboot the system. Meals are on repeat and the chef seems to love anything cooked with mince and Ravioli. Flight staff are usually ok although like anything and some staff on last night's flights, you can get some shockers.
As far as I can tell, the widebody flights are Melbourne based. So that airport is pretty shocking with delays. Thus, the on-time (or lack of) issue.
A few weeks ago I travelled on QF1 in Business, the food service is 100% not at the 2019 level but it is still better than shown in the video.
Yes international flights get a slightly better version of this. QF9/10 between MEL PER also get the international version of service.
Nice one Ryan. I still think Qantas compares pretty well in economy (I’m thinking of Europe and the USA), although yes, you certainly pay a premium. I recently flew in economy from Auckland to Brisbane on an A330 and really enjoyed it. The service was excellent and the food was decent. 😋
I love the A330s! Think they're incredibly comfy planes to be on.
@@ryansofly 💯👌
another great trip report Ryan. Qantas have an adequate service but right now their prices are a joke. Like you i mainly book them through points and i also have my amex travel credit once a year that has to be on Qantas. its a well appointed plane though isnt it? hopefully with record profits Qantas finds a way to fix its staff shortage, perhaps by employing more people at attractive salaries?
QF has always been a points only option for me even before covid-19. QF feels ok, until you fly an international carrier out of Australia.
its funny you mentioned about employing more staff... on todays news 3 march 2023 it was announced that they want to employ at least 10,000 extra staff. maybe they got rid of too many too soon due to covid. but that was like 1.5 years ago now.
Qantas are still my preferred airline to fly with within Australia, then Jetstar or Rex.
I think Qantas, like most airlines have been going through cost cutting exercises, reducing meals sizes or replacing meals with a snack.
If you book in advance you can still get a fairly good price on Qantas
Indeed... But I'm a points junkie and JQ gives me heaps (and SCs as well). 😏
The A330s have been used from Mel, Syd and Bne to Cairns. Hopefully they stay because it’s hard to get tickets in and out of Cairns
Oh yes of course! How can I forget about CNS?
Great review Ryan! I gotta be honest, I think the iPad works a little bit better than those old slow IFE screens that are on most of the aircraft. Arguably Qantas' economy product needs to be updated to something more sleek and up to date, shame it will be expensive though.
Howdy Noah, thanks for watching. Sadly, QF was never really up to international standards. And they haven't been for a long time, especially in YCL. Suppose COVID cutbacks just made matters worse. They've always relied on sentiments and "the spirit of Australia" to prop the product up, but frankly let's not kid ourselves.
@@ryansofly I think you get better bang for buck on Virgin or Jetstar in all honesty, I would probably take VA economy X on a trans-continental flight and could likely find it for cheaper than Qantas A330 flights.
@@noahpitkinaviation indeed... And for international, JQ business just for that little bit more than QF economy for heaps more points and SCs.
@@ryansofly Exactly! I can't justify travelling Qantas anymore unless it is the only flight available for my timings which is a little bit sad :(
i fly exclusivly virgin in aus but use redemptions for qantas international also, qantas charges far too much for their service, great video btw
International redemption for QF is almost impossible for lower tiered members, because QF international network is pathetic. So my redemptions are mostly domestic.
@Ryan So Fly I absolutely agree, I've been fortunate to have snapped up business rewards twice to the US in the last 6 months because of their big releases as a bronze member which I'm stocked about. I agree though. There should be more availability
"Wifi insisted that it was going on strike for better work and pay conditions." Nice pick-up line!
Hahahaha thanks for popping by!
Do you have tips for flying alone cause on Saturday it’s my first time flying bye myself and I’m 13. I love your plane vids
Just take a deep breath and enjoy the flight by yourself! The first time I flew solo, I was 14. I was so excited. I'm sure you'll feel the same.
Ok thanks have a good holiday
a330 is very nice for domestic travel unlike the a320
Qantas wifi uses ground stations to connect, the wifi always drops out over the bight, shouldn’t have affected the ife stream
Ah that explains heaps! Thanks!
Shame about the wifi! Flight looked good on the whole, and a long domestic flight!
Yeah it was a good flight overall. But QF is really lagging behind their international counterparts.
I used Qantas once this year from Brisbane to Melbourne never again. dirty plane, no food at all, terrible late running and 45 minute wait for luggage at Melbourne Airport!
For the rest of the year its been virgin australia in business class for my domestic flight needs. Much better all round!
That seem to be a problem with MEL these days. I waited 90mins for my luggage (with carousel change for every arriving airline) after an international red eye from Manila. Watch the chaos here!
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Qantas lounge at Brisbane airport was REALLY Average. Seating needs updating, material covered chairs are sweat and dirt stained, vinyl Charles had rips..
Until they bought a mini meat pie out there was only soup, potatoes and marinara sauce and toasted sandwiches as hot choices. Pretty average compared to how qantas once was. I flew on 10/12/22
Yes some of their lounges are getting rough around the edges. Are you referring to their international lounge? I thought the domestic lounge precinct is still pretty new.
@@ryansofly
We spent time in the domestic lounge whilst waiting to fly to Melbourne.
It looks very weird having no IFE screen on the back of those seats
Hahaha... well, just fly on the 737s with no PTVs!
Used to fly qantas everywhere now I won’t use them unless I have to gotten worse and worse last few years
For the money I pay to fly QF in economy when I go for my international trips, I'd rather go JQ business and get more points and SCs.
@@ryansofly yep it’s not really a huge difference anymore ceo making to much profits needs to reinvest in staff and crew they fired for no reason
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I flew Qantas April 21st 2022 from Brisbane to Melbourne and back 3 days later, expensive flights, the service was bad , argumentive flight attendants, the meal only one was a sandwich and water, omg it's was bad stale and if you asked for something else , you got a argumentive response, on the return trip was worse, both of planes were737 s, was given a spinach sandwich which I declined hate spinach, asked again is there something else, wow the response was wild , why come here wanting better service , were short staffed we hate Qantas I was told got water but that was my full service , crap so no TV screens, so asked do you have any head phones thinking I will listen to music told none of this is on, so out with my phone set on flight mode try you tube, before I could put my head phone in I was screamed at by the attendant, my volume was to loud bullshit, she ranted raved , I stood up asked others could this disturb you for 5seconds my head phone wasn't on, reply no never heard it, everyone complained about the treatment I was getting and people told the attendant to leave me alone. I emailed Qantas 3 times but never got a reply, I sent to customer service, head office, and customer care and rang on the phone twice to be hung up on, now why would I ever fly qantas
OMG... That's shit! Hopefully QF responds soon!
thats why you fly virgin. you can get a plated meal on virgin but in business
QF is fast going downhill
Part of the premium is for Qantas level of safety. They still have the best trained pilots in the world which is what you need when something goes wrong in the air.
Sorry but your expectations are far to high and you aren’t comparing apples with apples. Go fly in the USA domestically or any other airline domestically and see what you get. Let’s not mention flying “internationally” within Europe. You simply can’t compare this product to an international sector by a competing airline. Qantas has a vastly different product on international services. Also, on what other airline in the world do you get free alcohol and food on a domestic service, even flights 1 hour long? Would love to know. Would be a handful, if that.Prices have risen across the board but it’s simply to do with economics as there is a shortage of seats in the Australian market compared to pre covid when all the major Aus airlines had more aircraft flying, not to mention we also had tiger air and VA flying wide bodies. Time to get with the times and realise (and regret) what lockdowns and covid did to Australia’s aviation sector. The Australian public have made their bed, now it’s time to lay in it. Despite this you expect far too much for a domestic sector. Would love to see a Lufthansa or United review on a intra-continental service.
Can I ask which bed did Australians make for themselves?
@@kennyeverett3201 the bed of wanting lockdowns and a closed society in order to “keep safe”.
The “meal” and beverage are not “free”, you’re well and truly paying for them in the inflated fare price. Qantas is extortionate and always has been.
Qantas is better than virgin still
I dont fly economy thank goodness however up front the food is not much better on QF
Example if you fly the last flight out of Perth to Sydney in Business class your offered a bowel of salty soup and or a one inch tartlet
What an insult for a $2600 airfare oneway.
I do not like QF catering what so ever
Neil Perry needs to be showen the door and the old entree,main and dessert (not icecream) be bought back
That's why we don't ever pay to fly QF, dearie. 😂 That's a very expensive tartlet for you! It better be laced with gold flakes! Hahaha...