I will never buy another Bell & Ross again after their Customer Service Rep told me “well we have no control over that” after I complained about my B&R rubber strap breaking in half under normal use conditions. B&R refused to replace the strap, which is a problem. I sold both of my B&Rs and will not buy one ever again. That said, I think their designs are cool and I love the style of your videos.
I don’t disagree with you. That’s 100% unacceptable. But at the same time, you can’t judge an entire company by one customer service rep. There are people that are shitty at their job, and there are people that are great at their job. It’s the luck of the draw who you get. But to your point, I can see why you would be turned off by B&R. I bet if you went to a boutique and told them about this, they probably would have helped you out.
@@MattSeesGray I agree, Matt, with all of the points you make. I bet there’s no way I would have gotten that response had I shown up in person at a boutique.
I had a similar experience with IWC. Only had the watch for 2 weeks and they refused to recognise the fault or exchange for another. I know the feeling, I'm totally put off with IWC now.
I had the pleasure of trying this watch on a few days ago and really liked it. The copper color of the dial is stunning and contrasts nicely with the steel case, which I thought to be well finished by the way. Thank you for the video, well done.
I've learned that "specs on paper" is kind of a dumb thing When the Doxa sub 200 was announced it really caught my eye, but I've always had been a person that needs the perfect specs for a watch, so the sub 200 didn't "check all the boxes" for me But somehow I was still coming back to it, watching reviews and videos about it because I liked the watch. I never bought it because I thought "for that money I can get something with MUCH better specifications" Until this year that I got one for my birthday and realized that the perfect specs don't matter. Unlike those "perfect on paper" watches that I eventually sold, the Doxa checks the box that says "I like this watch"
Just for my knowledge, at 900/1000 be it € or $, what watches are that MUCH better on paper? - sw200 ✓ - sapphire crystal ✓ - solid end links ✓ - solid links ✓ - screw down crown ✓ - brand with heritage even if it's not the most glorious history, but certainly better than a modern microbrand ✓ - bezel with a nice action to it even if it's s bit slim To be MUCH better what should it have? The only things it lacks are better lume and better clasp.
"we", feel awesome about B&R in general.. looks so good on these vids and pics. HOWEVER. Once you wear any similar model, I bet, you *know* that it really is a show-off piece. (and others do know. And do notice.) On this vid, wow, how thin it is, @1:12 👍
I've recently began my obsession as a watch collector. And i must say- out of all the luxury brands I've been researching, for me the MAMACOO's watches are the most intriguing.
2nd only to Hublot in the Trigger Watch Snob sweepstakes. You chose the right colour. I'm picturing that in my 12 slot rotation box and know i'd end up picking it a stupid number of times.
I've always liked Bell and Ross since seeing their ads in the back of Car and Driver magazines as a kid. I just wish they would do this in a 37 or 38mm case. And for me with a 6.25" wrist it _is_ a matter of wrist size. I don't like wearing watches where the strap comes straight down out of the lugs or god forbid goes back on itself.
I love both Panerai and B&R. I have almost a dozen split between the two brands. I thought the BR03 at 42mm was the perfect size. The 46mm was too big, even for me. The BR03's definitely wear much larger than a 42mm, but I'm a fan of larger watches. I have large wrists and well above average height and build. I am thinking of letting my SD43 go to a new home as I find it a tad too small for my tastes. Anyhoo... I tried this watch on a few weeks ago. I noticed the 41mm size immediately. It is not unwearable at 41mm, but borderline. The copper with the blued hands is truly outstanding! I may just have to place this watch on the acquisition list. Are B&R worth RRP? Not so much. I tend to pick them for closer to 50% of RRP. At those prices, I think you are getting a lot of watch. The movements I've owned over many different B&R are all darn near COSC performance. The overall quality of the watch is every bit on par with something like a Tudor. If you like the design, and can get a fair price, no reason to steer clear of this brand.
I've always liked B&R and the size of them has never bothered me. I have the B&R 03 92 quartz version and the round Aeronovale with a brass case. The quart watch has a small seconds subdial and a case size similar to or slightly smaller than that discussed.
Love the comment on 'fit and finish.' This phrase is tossed around by nearly every TH-cam reviewer and when I hear, the watch has poor fit and finish,' I have to ask, 'relative to what?' I agree that most (ne included) have no idea what this phrase means.
This piece is an instant classic! Bell&Ross needs to seriously think about its pricing though. The brand would take off if they sell at half that price. $4k is just too much for what's inside here.
4:224:22 I tried the 41 mm copper still looks huge on the wrist .these watches look good on display but a definite no on any wrist size. It looks clowny ridiculous .the one and only square watch i would wear if i can afford is a TAG MONACO
Long time viewer, first time commenter. *Big* fan. My inner pedant won't let me not say, circular brushing on the case. Radial the kind that leaves a sunburst from a lapping machine. 👍 Keep up the great work! 👏👏👏
Gorgeous watch. Can we talk about your lighting setup? I’d love to know how you manage to nail the lighting diffusion. The watches look great with minimal light reflection off the crystal
i kind of want this with the heritage strap, but the heritage is a 92 IIRC, it's gorgeous. But Heritage over this? Tough call, which would you go with ?
It is cool!!! That’s how I felt when tried my grey lum on. I was thinking about selling but your video reconnected me with my watch. This copper is also amazing btw.
I had a fake BR-03. Yes, it was wrong, but I loved it, and the rubber strap lasted the entire 8 years of the battery. Yes it was quartz. I wish I cud afford a real one.....I'd buy it in a hot minute. I have an 8+ inch wrist and it fit great. Like I said, it lasted 8 years, then I smashed it.
Excellent review. I love Panerai, so this is definitely my type of watch. Something different. In house movements are overrated. The Tudor Black Bay GMT had an in-house movement and it had an issue with the date wheel since 2019. The wheel gets stuck between dates and Tudor is unable (or unwilling) to fix it until today. People are still complaining about it on the forums in 2023.
Power reserve is the biggest benefit of most in-house movements. But it often comes at the expense of convenient and (relatively) affordable servicing.
People always say that but imagine a $60,000 Patek with a Sellita movement. Stop being disingenuous there’s nothing wrong with buying a cheaper watch no need to rationalize your purchase
I actually like Bell & Ross for the same reason i like Panerai, it's an odd watch, if one day i get to a position i can buy a Bell & Ross i for sure will.
B&R watches aren't square just because they think that's the best shape for a watch. They're supposed to evoke an old school altimeter, bolted to the instrument panel (hence the screws). That said, it has to be big, and you just have to love it that way. It wouldn't make sense for an altimeter to be small and dainty, and the watch inspired by one just wouldn't look right if they made it much smaller.
1:09: the screws aren't perfectly turned to the same mirrored position on the back of the watch. Some people would hate this, but I want you to not be a coward and do the same to the screws on the watch face.
Hold on a second. I thought a manufracture caliber/certified movement was the main reason watchbrands ask for that much money. I like Sellita/third party calibers, dont get me wrong. Without this whole "Exclusive bullshit super complicated caliber stuff" How do they justify those prices? Finish, History?
Like the shape, love the copper dial with blue hands. The brown strap is not my taste and WHY put lume on the hands when there is non on the dial or the bezel? pass.
"reminds me of panerai" well thats because the dial is basically a 1:1 copy ;D Great review though, and I like that you dispel the "spec sheet comparison" BS we see so often.
It’s a cockpit instrument, and you unmounted it and put it on a strap. That’s what the B&R look is all about. Now you can make comparisons with Sinn, since both of them were co-conspirators in the making of instrument watches before they split. But what I’d like to do is throw Reservoir watches into the mix to really tweak with people’s assumptions about how to crossover motorized vehicle instruments as watches.
So instead of a big ugly wqtch, we now have a smaller ugly watch. I keep lookimg at the Bell And Ross line up at my local AD but I just cannot get into the design. The watch and square case is quirky and seems okay finished but the strap widths look ridiculous to me. Not for me this one.
I bet you love that Panerai lies about their movements as well. Probably the most dishonest watch brand other than Rolex which is funny because of their intertwined past
New size??!? I thought it was going to be 36mm They went from 42 to 41 lol Nobody put on the 42mm b&r and thought, hmmm I'd buy it if it was a 41mm lol The sizes are a non starter for anyone but people with the largest wrists.
Seriously tho, this isn't worth half any small brand doing an in-house movement. Such a sub-par choice to go with the 3rd-party movements... This is really important. Very bad specs.
Bell (they don’t deserve to be addressed by their full name) is a cheaper, less refined, more derivative, and less polarizing Hublot for bros in waiting. I have thought about getting an Hublot as an FU watch, but Bell is just an I don’t care about you watch.
I will never buy another Bell & Ross again after their Customer Service Rep told me “well we have no control over that” after I complained about my B&R rubber strap breaking in half under normal use conditions. B&R refused to replace the strap, which is a problem. I sold both of my B&Rs and will not buy one ever again. That said, I think their designs are cool and I love the style of your videos.
I don’t disagree with you. That’s 100% unacceptable. But at the same time, you can’t judge an entire company by one customer service rep. There are people that are shitty at their job, and there are people that are great at their job. It’s the luck of the draw who you get. But to your point, I can see why you would be turned off by B&R. I bet if you went to a boutique and told them about this, they probably would have helped you out.
@@MattSeesGray I agree, Matt, with all of the points you make. I bet there’s no way I would have gotten that response had I shown up in person at a boutique.
Damn, good to know
I had a similar experience with IWC. Only had the watch for 2 weeks and they refused to recognise the fault or exchange for another. I know the feeling, I'm totally put off with IWC now.
@@fendushi sorry to hear that. I like IWC, but if they did that to me I would feel exactly the same way you do.
You are consistently simultaneously hilarious and informative.
This is why we come back to your videos. Thank you Master Evan
Thank you for choosing an underrated (and cool) watch. I love the B&R designs and truly appreciate your insight.
Keep ‘em coming! 😃👍🏼
I had the pleasure of trying this watch on a few days ago and really liked it. The copper color of the dial is stunning and contrasts nicely with the steel case, which I thought to be well finished by the way. Thank you for the video, well done.
I've learned that "specs on paper" is kind of a dumb thing
When the Doxa sub 200 was announced it really caught my eye, but I've always had been a person that needs the perfect specs for a watch, so the sub 200 didn't "check all the boxes" for me
But somehow I was still coming back to it, watching reviews and videos about it because I liked the watch. I never bought it because I thought "for that money I can get something with MUCH better specifications"
Until this year that I got one for my birthday and realized that the perfect specs don't matter. Unlike those "perfect on paper" watches that I eventually sold, the Doxa checks the box that says "I like this watch"
Just for my knowledge, at 900/1000 be it € or $, what watches are that MUCH better on paper?
- sw200 ✓
- sapphire crystal ✓
- solid end links ✓
- solid links ✓
- screw down crown ✓
- brand with heritage even if it's not the most glorious history, but certainly better than a modern microbrand ✓
- bezel with a nice action to it even if it's s bit slim
To be MUCH better what should it have? The only things it lacks are better lume and better clasp.
LOVE this model. Classic B&R but more wearable. The copper dial is the way to go here.
I love Panerai. I like B&R. And I think this 41mm looks great! Another cracking video 😁
"we", feel awesome about B&R in general.. looks so good on these vids and pics. HOWEVER. Once you wear any similar model, I bet, you *know* that it really is a show-off piece. (and others do know. And do notice.) On this vid, wow, how thin it is, @1:12 👍
I've recently began my obsession as a watch collector. And i must say- out of all the luxury brands I've been researching, for me the MAMACOO's watches are the most intriguing.
It is a stunning watch. It's silhouette is exceptional. A circle within a square. Beautiful.
Really love your videos! And thank you for summing up watch collecting in one succinct quote!
And thank you for not being a bot.
2nd only to Hublot in the Trigger Watch Snob sweepstakes. You chose the right colour. I'm picturing that in my 12 slot rotation box and know i'd end up picking it a stupid number of times.
Just found your channel. I agree with you on every word about collecting and specifically about the B & R watches... I love them!
I personally fell in love with the BR05 line. I havent pulled the teigger but I thought of it
I love your explanaiton right at the end. This particular watch might not make my list, but I appreciate it for what it is.
You get it.
I’m eyeing up the black ceramic BR03 👀
I feel that
i just bought the 42mm, for a small wrist no problem and i love it
Bell&Ross is like Panerai's handsome younger cousin.
Own a grey lum 42mm. Striking, great quality, strong lume
great video and opinions thanks!
I recently was able to side by side compare the new model to the older size. The new size is so good. And so noticeable when next to an older model
I've always liked Bell and Ross since seeing their ads in the back of Car and Driver magazines as a kid. I just wish they would do this in a 37 or 38mm case. And for me with a 6.25" wrist it _is_ a matter of wrist size. I don't like wearing watches where the strap comes straight down out of the lugs or god forbid goes back on itself.
I love both Panerai and B&R. I have almost a dozen split between the two brands. I thought the BR03 at 42mm was the perfect size. The 46mm was too big, even for me. The BR03's definitely wear much larger than a 42mm, but I'm a fan of larger watches. I have large wrists and well above average height and build. I am thinking of letting my SD43 go to a new home as I find it a tad too small for my tastes.
Anyhoo... I tried this watch on a few weeks ago. I noticed the 41mm size immediately. It is not unwearable at 41mm, but borderline. The copper with the blued hands is truly outstanding! I may just have to place this watch on the acquisition list. Are B&R worth RRP? Not so much. I tend to pick them for closer to 50% of RRP. At those prices, I think you are getting a lot of watch. The movements I've owned over many different B&R are all darn near COSC performance. The overall quality of the watch is every bit on par with something like a Tudor. If you like the design, and can get a fair price, no reason to steer clear of this brand.
I don't understand, you write that the BR03 at 42mm is perfect but at the new updated 41mm it's borderline wearable?
I've always liked B&R and the size of them has never bothered me. I have the B&R 03 92 quartz version and the round Aeronovale with a brass case. The quart watch has a small seconds subdial and a case size similar to or slightly smaller than that discussed.
I love B&R - great distinctive style and design - and very good quality - I think they seem to cop a lot of unwarranted criticism
Love the comment on 'fit and finish.' This phrase is tossed around by nearly every TH-cam reviewer and when I hear, the watch has poor fit and finish,' I have to ask, 'relative to what?' I agree that most (ne included) have no idea what this phrase means.
This piece is an instant classic! Bell&Ross needs to seriously think about its pricing though. The brand would take off if they sell at half that price. $4k is just too much for what's inside here.
4:22 4:22 I tried the 41 mm copper still looks huge on the wrist .these watches look good on display but a definite no on any wrist size. It looks clowny ridiculous .the one and only square watch i would wear if i can afford is a TAG MONACO
Long time viewer, first time commenter. *Big* fan. My inner pedant won't let me not say, circular brushing on the case. Radial the kind that leaves a sunburst from a lapping machine. 👍 Keep up the great work! 👏👏👏
Thanks for saying that. So radial = radiating outward? I wonder why that wouldn’t be called radiant brushing.
More than welcome. I only get to name science stuff. I think watchmaking transliterations all follow the Secret Wars canon. 😅😂
Since they wear larger than their sizes anyway, if they made it 38 or 39mm it think it would have been a very interesting direction for the brand.
Gorgeous watch. Can we talk about your lighting setup? I’d love to know how you manage to nail the lighting diffusion. The watches look great with minimal light reflection off the crystal
i kind of want this with the heritage strap, but the heritage is a 92 IIRC, it's gorgeous. But Heritage over this? Tough call, which would you go with ?
You go, Mr. Sir Watch-a-Lot.
Came here for the copper but now I want that ceramic diver
It is cool!!! That’s how I felt when tried my grey lum on.
I was thinking about selling but your video reconnected me with my watch. This copper is also amazing btw.
Bell Ross design is cool and iconic....but I think the black ceramic diver look better 👍
Another quality review.
I'm not into that design language, but I respect it. It has a cool, even though it's not my kind of cool.
My first and last point of reference for B&R is that Jeff from Community wears their chrono is a few seasons.
Underrated watch for an underrated show
Me trying on a Bell & Ross: This better not awaken anything in me.
"Shut up @@YoureTerrific! I found your TH-cam page. What's the point in reviewing f̶r̶o̶z̶e̶n̶ ̶p̶i̶z̶z̶a̶ watches? "
“I am an EXCEPTIONAL narcissist” is a line I think about most days 😂
Absolutely spot on 👍😁☺️
I had a fake BR-03. Yes, it was wrong, but I loved it, and the rubber strap lasted the entire 8 years of the battery. Yes it was quartz. I wish I cud afford a real one.....I'd buy it in a hot minute. I have an 8+ inch wrist and it fit great. Like I said, it lasted 8 years, then I smashed it.
What’s on your (other) wrist evan? For sure, an other stainless steel B&R on rubber!
Excellent review. I love Panerai, so this is definitely my type of watch. Something different. In house movements are overrated. The Tudor Black Bay GMT had an in-house movement and it had an issue with the date wheel since 2019. The wheel gets stuck between dates and Tudor is unable (or unwilling) to fix it until today. People are still complaining about it on the forums in 2023.
Power reserve is the biggest benefit of most in-house movements. But it often comes at the expense of convenient and (relatively) affordable servicing.
People always say that but imagine a $60,000 Patek with a Sellita movement. Stop being disingenuous there’s nothing wrong with buying a cheaper watch no need to rationalize your purchase
Could not give an F about an in-house movement 😅
I think I’m a closeted Bell and Ross fan, would I buy one? Yes, do I want one? Also yes, but WILL I buy one? I’m not sure 🤔
WHAT SIZE IS YOUR WRIST???
I think this would be perfect as a wall clock. Looks beautiful.
But it doesn’t look good on my 7.25 inch wrist
Great video - thanks
Now THAT is a cool watch.
B&R are not my cup of tea, but I’m glad they bring something different in the market.
Actually. There's a 39mm BRS. It's the goldilocks size
Bell & Ross kicks ass
Love the kind cooper colour. with my age fading eyes, and unique design it might be for .... me :-
I like some of their designs, especially the Alain Silberstein, but the price for ETA movements is too much
I actually like Bell & Ross for the same reason i like Panerai, it's an odd watch, if one day i get to a position i can buy a Bell & Ross i for sure will.
After trying one of these i understand more why my other watch rolex dated from 2012 worth 4 or 5 times more than one of those
Oooh, another You're Terrific video!!!!
I'm not fan of this model but I've been looking into cyber skull
Wild
First! ( to say I hate round date windows) But damn that dial looks amazing
what a georgous watch!!
Damn. This is a cool video! - ...and a cool watch, too.
always love the design, but always too big for my 6'' wrist :(
Interesting watch. Too bad they don't make a 38 it would be more popular.
I won't be rushing to the AD to buy one.
hear me out. i feel about the B&R the same way I feel about the P01. weird, big and very cool
That watch looks killer.
Just like a Panerai - you know what it is from a mile away.
Make it biggest and there will be an excellent nightstand clock
B&R watches aren't square just because they think that's the best shape for a watch. They're supposed to evoke an old school altimeter, bolted to the instrument panel (hence the screws). That said, it has to be big, and you just have to love it that way. It wouldn't make sense for an altimeter to be small and dainty, and the watch inspired by one just wouldn't look right if they made it much smaller.
“People who like big watches and cannot lie”. Can’t stop laughing
Definitely a nice looking watch but I just can't get over that date window.
1:09: the screws aren't perfectly turned to the same mirrored position on the back of the watch. Some people would hate this, but I want you to not be a coward and do the same to the screws on the watch face.
@@IDKline it was a joke
I’m looking for another Bell & Ross after my excellent experience with their authorized dealer here in Finland. 👍🏻 This one is very nice.
Damn Evan. You are cool.
I like big watches and I cannot lie, you other watch nerds can’t deny.
Hold on a second. I thought a manufracture caliber/certified movement was the main reason watchbrands ask for that much money. I like Sellita/third party calibers, dont get me wrong. Without this whole "Exclusive bullshit super complicated caliber stuff" How do they justify those prices? Finish, History?
Been waiting for 41....
Like the shape, love the copper dial with blue hands. The brown strap is not my taste and WHY put lume on the hands when there is non on the dial or the bezel? pass.
"reminds me of panerai" well thats because the dial is basically a 1:1 copy ;D Great review though, and I like that you dispel the "spec sheet comparison" BS we see so often.
I don’t like the size and design and date window on this one. The fit and finish looks to be fine though.
damn, this video is cool
It’s a cockpit instrument, and you unmounted it and put it on a strap. That’s what the B&R look is all about. Now you can make comparisons with Sinn, since both of them were co-conspirators in the making of instrument watches before they split. But what I’d like to do is throw Reservoir watches into the mix to really tweak with people’s assumptions about how to crossover motorized vehicle instruments as watches.
Bell&Ross? EEWWWWWWWWWWW
I LOVE ITTTT
This is the way.
It give me the vibe of a panerai .
Cool design but yea .. to $$$
So instead of a big ugly wqtch, we now have a smaller ugly watch. I keep lookimg at the Bell And Ross line up at my local AD but I just cannot get into the design. The watch and square case is quirky and seems okay finished but the strap widths look ridiculous to me. Not for me this one.
someday I'll click play and you'll be wearing a wall clock on you wrist
You are terrific! B&R, not so much.
Maybe first? again...
I don't understand.
@@IDKline True, but I'm just fascinated by dumb TH-cam comments.
I bet you love that Panerai lies about their movements as well. Probably the most dishonest watch brand other than Rolex which is funny because of their intertwined past
New size??!? I thought it was going to be 36mm
They went from 42 to 41 lol
Nobody put on the 42mm b&r and thought, hmmm I'd buy it if it was a 41mm lol
The sizes are a non starter for anyone but people with the largest wrists.
I agree. It’s a weird choice.
BuT it's nOt inHoUsE
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I try hard never to judge and to each his own and all that but really this looks ridiculous on you
It looks like if Wes Anderson made a watch for one of his movies.
Thank you for your service. Brilliantly scripted as always
🫡
Seriously tho, this isn't worth half any small brand doing an in-house movement. Such a sub-par choice to go with the 3rd-party movements... This is really important. Very bad specs.
Still too big.
They still look absurd. The straps are way too wide. Reminds me of some horrible Diesel bro watch.
Still too big. I'd wear a 38mm though. If they reduced the price by about 80%.
I’d also like to see that.
Bell (they don’t deserve to be addressed by their full name) is a cheaper, less refined, more derivative, and less polarizing Hublot for bros in waiting.
I have thought about getting an Hublot as an FU watch, but Bell is just an I don’t care about you watch.
What absolute drivel....
That date window looks like a zit.
*Clunky: the watch*