tl;dw: Hey I’m Derek Derek! So did you know Vivendi Universal made a game called Crash Nitro Kart 2, which is completely different from Crash BANDICOOT Nitro Kart 2, which is a sequel to Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart 3D, which btw has more in common with Crash Tag Team Racing. Crash Nitro Kart already had a cell phone port on the N-Gage that was shockingly good despite being the N-Gage, but it sold waaaay less than any of the potato Java Crash Bandicoot games. Also did you know that the Zeebo exists? Thanks for watching! Sorry for the lack of uploads this year. I'm going to have a Game Tour up in a couple of weeks and then some DOOM.
Hey, just wanted to say that I've been watching your videos on and off since your days as HVGN back when you were loosely affiliated with the guys at Retroware. I really enjoy all of your uploads and have wound up playing a lot of great games that I would have never otherwise know existed. Your positive attitude and light hearted humor is a big contrast to most video game content creators back then and even still today, and I really appreciate that about your videos. It's a big part of why I still watch them after all this time lol. I know you call yourself Uncle Derek a lot as a joke, but watching you just reminds me of talking to my brother about games and the jokes we would make together. We're definitely too close in age for you to ever be my Uncle Derek, but whenever you make an upload, it puts a smile on my face, like that relative you love but never having time to visit popping by unexpectedly. I hope you continue to have success and hope you never change the general positivity that oozes from your videos. Hope you have a good day, sorry for the rambling lol.
You guys have stumbled upon a really great series in this Delisted thing. I would have never thought I’d care about downloadable games that went “poof”… but here we are.
Tio Derek, you deserve the title of "Mestre Supremo do Zeebo". It has been decided by the Brazilian League of mid 2000's Zeebo users (which includes me and possibly 5 others). Long Live Tio Derek! Vida Longa ao Zeebo! Love your videos xoxo lol
26:39 "we've officially come back to where we left off" well, it wasn't too long, that tangent only took *pauses video* TWENTY MINUTES??? Never change, Uncle Derek. Never change
Another good contender for Delisted is Prince of Persia: Warrior Within. It was the full game for iPhone and iPod touch, and it featured pretty good controls for touch screen. It's also the only version of the game that lets you throw your secondary weapon during balancing sections. If I can locate my old iPod, I'll see if it still works, and if it does, I can send it for a video (but make no promises that I can find the iPod in the first place).
I agree, not cheesy at all. It’s truthfully. When I thought of a world where people would make speciality catered content for me, it’s weird stuff like this I dreamed about. There is a tongue and cheek attitude about all of these things but the truth is, these things really will be lost to the annals of history. Video games are a super important part of our culture and their are huge swabs of it that are just getting deleted. I mean these games sold MILLIONS of copies and you can’t get them anywhere. And unlike console systems, emulation for cell phone systems has a long way to go. Plus, it’s funny as hell.
@@chuyuen441 I honestly pity cynical people like you. Not everything has got to be some carefully worded quip, to maintain your cool guy image. You must have no friends (or no one that actually enjoys being around you). Damn, that’s just sad. Bet your parents barely even tolerate you. That child they know is underwhelming but don’t tell anyone out loud for fear of how it would reflect back on them. Enjoy your Top Ramon tonight.
Nice video! I liked all the little bits of wordplay (honest-to-AkuAku, rubberband-icoot-ing, pizza resistance) that were just dropped in and allowed to be funny without drawing attention to them.
I would hazard a guess he had a hard time giving that console back. The Zeebo is such a funky piece of gaming history. Who wouldn’t want that pile of goodness in their collection? A sealed copy of Mario 64? Who gives a shit. Give me the systems that crashed and burned.
I distinctly remember a friend of mine ranting about the how convoluted the Crash Nitro Kart releases back in 2010 or so, so thinking about that and having a soft spot for J2ME games in general made this a delight to watch for me. I had no idea CNK3D was on other devices that could be emulated. I want to see where I can find that game.
One reason I moved away from Apple was the compatability and delisting issues. Not just games but could be any app, so imagine an important app for your workflow being incompatible, the money just poofs. Android faces delistings all the time too but it's at least possible and easier to load up any APK to see if it'll work on newer versions. Sad thing is companies obviously prefer this and don't have to care if their apps become outdated. Microsofts been trying to do this with Windows since 8, hence Linux with Windows emulation will continue to grow. Companies shouldn't have this much control over our software libraries but best thing we can do is get the software running our way any way we can if possible.
its hilarious that most of these ports ended up selling well. i remember getting the ios nitro kart port and thinking "of all IPs, why crash? why hasnt nintendo put mario kart on ios?" guess it shows that a big part of successfully selling a game is being in the right place at the right time.
I realize it’s very niche, but there’s a delisted iOS port of the first Shin Megami Tensei game, and that is currently the only official way to play that game in English. Thank you so much for the video! I would never have realized that there is that many Crash racers for mobile, doubly so for being lost to time. I remember playing Tag Team a couple of times at my cousin’s house but that’s my entire experience with That Infernal Bandicoot.
@@belstar1128 I mean, he did say "official". There are translation patchs for the snes, gba and ps1 versions of SMT. There are still many things that you can only access if you know japanese, but playing the original shin megami tensei isn't one of them.
Fun thing that happened to me recently: I was at half priced books last week and while I was browsing I heard the girl behind the offer counter ask her coworker what an n-gage was and nearly died on the spot. Apparently someone had a couple games in with the books they were selling. Unfortunately I was not able to stick around to see the madman selling n-gage games to half priced books, but the moment will haunt me forever.
>did you know that they made a crazy frog racing game? wait, so you're telling me crazy frog starred in non-racing games too? i mean, of course they did, but i can't name any from the top of my head.
"As soon as your jump activates after a slide you lose all of your forward momentum, you get the height make no mistake but there is no smooth arc to the slide jump here. It feels like a little arm pulls you back as soon as you slide jump, and this little arm has it's own legs." - Caddy - The Miserable World of Completing Crash Bandicoot 4
Now that you mentioned the Nintendo DS, did you know that Crash Tag Team Racing was meant to have a DS port as well? There's actual pictures of what the project could have been if it wasn't canceled, probably because Vivendi chickened out of the competition with Mario Kart DS at some point.
With how the Crash series was at the time, if it was finished it would have been either surprisingly good and better than the console version, or one of the worst games ever made. Nothing in between.
I LOVED this game on my Nokia smartphone running Symbian back in the day. A lot of people (especially in the US where feature phones were the market leaders) criminally underestimate the contributions of Symbian, especially on Nokia devices, to the notion of what a smartphone should be. Apple perfected the formula with the capacitive touch screen rectangle form factor. I might be mixing it up with the ios version buy if my memory is not failing me I think there was an option for motion controls but on Nokia's late 2000s two-way slider phones the "music contol / gaming" buttons which are revealed when sliding the phone open in the opposite direction of the numpad in landscape mode offered a much more traditional gaming layout. Think GBA advance but with the d pad on the right and the face buttons on the left.
Sir, this is outstanding content. Thank you for all your efforts on this. It's not just a report, it's a documentary. I have shared it with others. All good wishes!
Thank you for digging out all these versions and showing them to us! You're one of the very few channels who give any regard to pre-iPhone mobile gaming (the only portable gaming in my broke teen years), and your coverages were great so far! I really appreciate that! I have some objections though. 1. At 16:29, you're telling that the first Crash Bandicoot Java kart game is what the mobile games were at the time. That tells me that you weren't much into mobile games at the time :) Just google up the gameplay of Asphalt: Urban GT 2, the 2D Java version specifically. The speed, the challenge, and the stupid fun of crashing your opponents against the wall in lots of game modes and locations are just pure joy and awesomeness! Even a simplistic, but popular Atomic Underground was much more smooth and dynamic than these Java Crash kart games. 2. At 19:34, you compare the last Java game with a Symbian one and point at the technological progress as a cause of the latter game looking much better. This is not much due to better technology, but due to Java 2 ME's virtual machine being a slow limited crap. This is why the performances of J2ME games were bad, and audio was so poor - nothing could be done about that. But, unlike Java, Symbian apps run natively and have full access to the phone's hardware, just like iOS apps or any computer/console programs do. There were also hacks for some older phones (Siemenses, Sony Ericssons and certain Motorolas) that enabled the possibility to run native apps, and the results were often astonishing. For example there was SieDoom, a version of Doom that ran completely fine on a Siemens phone from 2004. 3. You said a couple of times about the "pre-smartphone era" and that the Crash iPhone games were in the beginnings of that era... That's not true, as _popular_ smartphones date way back to Nokia 7650, which was way before iPhone. What defines a smartphone isn't the presence of a touchscreen and social apps, but the ability to run native apps, with multitasking, filesystem access, background operation and other things that any full-featured OS should have. Aside from smartphones (which usually had no touchscreen actually), there were also larger devices, with a resistive touchscreen and a stylus, often running Windows Mobile - those were called PDAs or portable PCs, and those that also had cellular capabilities were called communicators. There were also regular "dumb" phones, that evolved into feature phones, which had multimedia capabilites and Internet access. The first iPhone wasn't even a smartphone, because the iPhone OS 1.0 lacked even the very basic features, like third-party app support and multitasking, and gained a (very limited) filesystem access only in iOS 11. A Nokia N95 was much more "smart" than those first iPhones :) _Edits: grammar and readability fixes_
Derek yelling "and they thought they'd get away with it?!" caused me to break a dish in a fit of laughter. So long, wedding present dinner plate, you will be missed.
hell he's talking about a video game made in Brazil by a Brazilian company, I was born in Brazil and I'm happy to know that there are people from outside who know zeebo
For the fact that you covered all these games, did an evidence board tracking the horrible naming conventions of these games, and DIDN'T giggle when you said the word "skidmarks".... I applaud you, Uncle Derek. You're the hero we need.
Ahh, phones with Java games... how oddly nostalgic, despite unsurprisingly the Game Boy Advance and later the DS were leagues better than what Java could do at the time. You were better off with puzzle games like Tetris... or Snake.
I think Uncle Derek's ad reads are literally the first time I've ever NOT skipped an ad read. I can't get enough of his positive vibes and personality. I'm buying some of that Cometeer coffee too. We need more Uncle Derek in this world. I really mean that. WE BE VIBIN' LIKE UNCLE DEREK OVER HERE, SON!
The sheer amount of lost games from the IOS store purges is kinda depressing, I hope emulation gets to that part of mobile history at some point. At least Java and Symbian are getting some love when it comes to preservation.
This always shocks me, as a physical Collector and Gamer. Games that vanish after a few years, yet you still can play Super Mario Bros on NES, using an original Cartridge. I know emulation is a thing and it's a reason to be there, but how scary the digital market is, if something happen with the Game. (even more scarier are cloud only versions of Games, that will die out if it's not selling well)
Piracy is a necessity for preservation. "Keep Circulating the tapes". Companies will not actually bother to preserve their own IPs if they aren't producing money.
The Crash Bandicoot Mobile Racers live on in spirit through CTR Nitro Fueled, which added Yaya Panda in one of the Grand Prix free updates, meaning that these games, however minor, did leave their mark on the franchise and it's fans.
I feel like a mini-Delisted episode on the Scott Pilgrim game would be a nice full circle for Derek "The Happy Video Game (Clash at Demonhead) Nerd" Alexander.
Ya know how food can sometimes look supernaturally delicious, when filmed? I feel that way about the original GBA, when I see real hands holding and playing one. Just an unimaginably fun console. Chef's kiss.
I was able to play the first IOS CNK on my dad's old Iphone ages ago, it was alright. Amazed how it suddenly became so rare just a few years later after it got delisted. Shootouts to all people preserving those older apps regardless of quality.
Stuff like this makes me appreciate that Sega Forever thing they were doing, if I remember right they brought back Afterburner Climax to mobile after it had been delisted on all platforms for years
That Crash Bandicoot bulletin board is the distillation of SSFF's entire philosophy. Also, that melancholy Crash theme towards the end of the video was pure nirvana.
Love your videos! Ever thought about doing a video on the old Prince of Persia mobile games? There's a bunch, from the the Java phone days right up to old iOS.
@@StopSkeletonsFromFighting that's awesome! I have some ios devices with all the old delisted games, get in contact if you need anything for the channel
My first job was coding J2ME games for Gameloft. The limitations really were astounding. You had to make sure the game never required two buttons to be pressed at the same time, since some phones just didn’t support that.
Gameloft put out some impressive stuff, but also a lot of garbage, from what I remember. Still, I think they probably did a lot to bring mobile gaming forward.
Man, I remember when I was a kid and I bugged my dad for a few weeks to let me buy Crash Racing 3D. Speaking of this era of mobile gaming, I think another game worth a look is DOOM iOS and the legal battle between Carmack and Bethesda, which eventually led to the Unity version of classic DOOM we have nowadays on mobile and PC.
I want that crash intro with the crazy music played on loop for eternity! I'm gonna make sure my grandkids put a rose on your grave and light a candle each year for your service to documenting this junk. It's a shame there's no source code for the good games to be ported.
The fact that you just got me to watch forty minutes on a game series I never played or really cared about is a testament to your delightful presentation.
I'm honestly kinda happy to see this getting some coverage; Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart 3D 2 was certainly a personal favorite on iOS... and despite being delisted it's still on my account and playable on anything old enough which has been fun to go back to
I would never look into this game but I will watch the entire video from start to finish just because I can listen to Uncle Derek rant for hours. I always look forward to your uploads showing up on my page. Great work as always. Keep doing all the things.
You're reminding me of the lost korean version of pop'n music that was only available on KR feature phones. There's a lot of video evidence of it, but because of the proprietary connectors, nobody's ever managed to even get it off the dang phones yet. I was in touch with someone who had it on his phone, and lived less than half an hour from me....but the connector was broken and no data could be transferred off. Absolutely heartbreaking.
Man this Zeebo stuff is almost like getting Rick Rolled at this point. I'm just sitting here enjoying what I think is a mobile Crash racer video then BOOM Zeebo.
You don't know what you missed. I have 2 N-Gages since the first one White Screen of Death'd. The other is still playable. That thing gave me some of my best times growing up, and a surprisingly robust social network way before Facebook. I kinda miss those times, it's too bad the platform never took off big.
Oh the ipod touch. I remember when my mom asked what it was I said "it's an iPhone without the phone capability." She asked why anyone would want a phone that can't phone, and when I said "it's for kids where the parents don't want to let them have a phone but would let them play the apps" she understood, because it didn't really occur to her that someone would use a phone for more than just calling and texting.
another awesome video i remember playing nitro kart on my old ipod touch when i was a kid. everyone should listen to barin ruins from the japanese version of the gba nitro kart that song is so good they went hard on it
I cannot believe I'm 3 days late to this video. And I also cannot believe you haven't stumbled onto the wild world of legacy iOS jailbreaking yet. There are big communities separately exploring and preserving the tools, tweaks and mods that made iPhones really neat and fascinating in the early 2010s, and preserving apps and games for the 32-bit era of iOS. One of my all-time favorite mobile games, geoDefense, and its sequel, geoDefense Swarm, was part of the app delisting of 2017. The app preservation community has that and several thousands more iOS games backed up and ready to go. Really now, more work needs to go into emulating iOS to make this software actually practically playable. But if you've got an old iPhone or iPod lying around, and hopefully didn't update it to iOS 8 (remember, that was the beginning of the end!) then you've got a device ready for a big jailbreak and lots of games to get into. My iPhone also doubles as an iPod loaded with vaporwave goodness, but that's just me :)
I had an iPod touch around that time, and I for sure had that app. If that iPod had more than 3 minutes of battery life, maybe I’d boot it up and play some of that old stuff
Thank you for making the decaf argument. I like coffee itself, a lot of people seem to only like caffeine judging by the faces made at me when I order.
Back in the day these mobile phone games used to put 3D at the end for the higher end 3D Symbian games so you knew which game you were getting because on these phone’s storefronts you couldn’t see screenshots. So the 2008 mobile phone games titled Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart and Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart 3D are just a way to delineate that specific release’s different versions for different strength mobile devices.
tl;dw:
Hey I’m Derek Derek! So did you know Vivendi Universal made a game called Crash Nitro Kart 2, which is completely different from Crash BANDICOOT Nitro Kart 2, which is a sequel to Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart 3D, which btw has more in common with Crash Tag Team Racing. Crash Nitro Kart already had a cell phone port on the N-Gage that was shockingly good despite being the N-Gage, but it sold waaaay less than any of the potato Java Crash Bandicoot games. Also did you know that the Zeebo exists?
Thanks for watching! Sorry for the lack of uploads this year. I'm going to have a Game Tour up in a couple of weeks and then some DOOM.
Hey, just wanted to say that I've been watching your videos on and off since your days as HVGN back when you were loosely affiliated with the guys at Retroware.
I really enjoy all of your uploads and have wound up playing a lot of great games that I would have never otherwise know existed. Your positive attitude and light hearted humor is a big contrast to most video game content creators back then and even still today, and I really appreciate that about your videos. It's a big part of why I still watch them after all this time lol.
I know you call yourself Uncle Derek a lot as a joke, but watching you just reminds me of talking to my brother about games and the jokes we would make together. We're definitely too close in age for you to ever be my Uncle Derek, but whenever you make an upload, it puts a smile on my face, like that relative you love but never having time to visit popping by unexpectedly.
I hope you continue to have success and hope you never change the general positivity that oozes from your videos.
Hope you have a good day, sorry for the rambling lol.
I sure know that Zeebo exists
You guys have stumbled upon a really great series in this Delisted thing. I would have never thought I’d care about downloadable games that went “poof”… but here we are.
@hood337 I’d make that person my best friend on the spot. The stories they could tell!
I just wanna ask, is there a way you guys got this? We all are desperate to play it!!!
What is it about Crash and people making videos about spinoffs going slowly mental until they want to die
caddickyduck from the hit video about CASH BADINKYDONK
the circle of life
@@terriblyterrified8742 yes
Probably because they get depressed from watching them milk to franchise to death.
loved the winks to your show from derek hehe
Tio Derek, you deserve the title of "Mestre Supremo do Zeebo".
It has been decided by the Brazilian League of mid 2000's Zeebo users (which includes me and possibly 5 others).
Long Live Tio Derek!
Vida Longa ao Zeebo!
Love your videos xoxo lol
All hail the Zeebo!
@@bb010g \o/
26:39 "we've officially come back to where we left off"
well, it wasn't too long, that tangent only took
*pauses video*
TWENTY MINUTES???
Never change, Uncle Derek. Never change
This is the exact amount of information about Crash Kart games I needed.
I could have used a word or two more.
The neurotic attention to detail is definitely appreciated.
Any less and it should have been disappointing. Any more and it would have been maddening.
*Cash Banooca
@@wiredupretro Not for me lol OL I gave up halfway through.
"Does that snare drum owe you money??"
Oh man, almost choked there.
Lars Ulrich wants to know your location.
Fr, the snare drum sample used is a bit too intense, ngl
Another good contender for Delisted is Prince of Persia: Warrior Within. It was the full game for iPhone and iPod touch, and it featured pretty good controls for touch screen. It's also the only version of the game that lets you throw your secondary weapon during balancing sections. If I can locate my old iPod, I'll see if it still works, and if it does, I can send it for a video (but make no promises that I can find the iPod in the first place).
I hate myself for selling my old iPod Touch, I loved ports such as that one.
That was actually how I first beat WW, and not on my PS2.
This may sound cheesy, but you two are a breath of fresh air among stale, samey content. Your videos always cheer me up on low days :)
not cheesy at all! thank you so much for watching!
I agree, not cheesy at all. It’s truthfully. When I thought of a world where people would make speciality catered content for me, it’s weird stuff like this I dreamed about. There is a tongue and cheek attitude about all of these things but the truth is, these things really will be lost to the annals of history. Video games are a super important part of our culture and their are huge swabs of it that are just getting deleted. I mean these games sold MILLIONS of copies and you can’t get them anywhere. And unlike console systems, emulation for cell phone systems has a long way to go.
Plus, it’s funny as hell.
@@leeartlee915 cringe
@@chuyuen441 I honestly pity cynical people like you. Not everything has got to be some carefully worded quip, to maintain your cool guy image. You must have no friends (or no one that actually enjoys being around you). Damn, that’s just sad. Bet your parents barely even tolerate you. That child they know is underwhelming but don’t tell anyone out loud for fear of how it would reflect back on them.
Enjoy your Top Ramon tonight.
I'm starting to notice that I've never seen Caddicarus and Crash in the same room at the same time...
ITS CUNFIRMD DADY CADY IS CASH BANOOKA!!!11
I really feel like I need a complete history of Crazy Frog games now.
Two racers and a cancelled puzzle game planned on DS.
@@HolyGoddessMotherAnne I swear there's a "Crazy Frog artist" or something of the sort for the DS.
@@tentaclesmod ah frick.
Uncle Derrick needs to check out the Civilization 3 port to Java flip phones. It's right up his alley.
WAIT WHAT!
@@icravedeath.1200 It's super impressive, it's like a scaled down hybrid of Civ 2 / 3. Not like the mini games that Civ 4 got
Oh my goodness *what*
The WHaT?
I actually had that game lol. Not on a flip phone, but a java phone all the same.
I liked the part where Uncle Derek said “It’s Zeebo Time” and then Zeebo’d all over those games.
I was Zeeboing all over the office!!
I zeebo'd inside your mom
One of the consoles of all time
Hilarious and original
I loved it when he N-Gaged us with that taco looking phone.
Nice video! I liked all the little bits of wordplay (honest-to-AkuAku, rubberband-icoot-ing, pizza resistance) that were just dropped in and allowed to be funny without drawing attention to them.
Theory: Derek hasn't done a tour because he's been self-conscious about his Zeebo shrine. Presumably that's been rectified with the new shelves.
I would hazard a guess he had a hard time giving that console back. The Zeebo is such a funky piece of gaming history. Who wouldn’t want that pile of goodness in their collection?
A sealed copy of Mario 64? Who gives a shit. Give me the systems that crashed and burned.
I distinctly remember a friend of mine ranting about the how convoluted the Crash Nitro Kart releases back in 2010 or so, so thinking about that and having a soft spot for J2ME games in general made this a delight to watch for me.
I had no idea CNK3D was on other devices that could be emulated. I want to see where I can find that game.
One reason I moved away from Apple was the compatability and delisting issues. Not just games but could be any app, so imagine an important app for your workflow being incompatible, the money just poofs.
Android faces delistings all the time too but it's at least possible and easier to load up any APK to see if it'll work on newer versions. Sad thing is companies obviously prefer this and don't have to care if their apps become outdated. Microsofts been trying to do this with Windows since 8, hence Linux with Windows emulation will continue to grow. Companies shouldn't have this much control over our software libraries but best thing we can do is get the software running our way any way we can if possible.
"Delisted" is easily my favorite SSFF show. And you have plenty of material to work with! 😅…😖
its hilarious that most of these ports ended up selling well. i remember getting the ios nitro kart port and thinking "of all IPs, why crash? why hasnt nintendo put mario kart on ios?"
guess it shows that a big part of successfully selling a game is being in the right place at the right time.
I realize it’s very niche, but there’s a delisted iOS port of the first Shin Megami Tensei game, and that is currently the only official way to play that game in English.
Thank you so much for the video! I would never have realized that there is that many Crash racers for mobile, doubly so for being lost to time. I remember playing Tag Team a couple of times at my cousin’s house but that’s my entire experience with That Infernal Bandicoot.
You can just learn Japanese.
@@belstar1128 I mean, he did say "official". There are translation patchs for the snes, gba and ps1 versions of SMT. There are still many things that you can only access if you know japanese, but playing the original shin megami tensei isn't one of them.
@@tentaclesmod Sure but the translations are often bad official or unofficial.
@@belstar1128 that's untrue lol. You must have only tried some terrible translations only.
Fun thing that happened to me recently: I was at half priced books last week and while I was browsing I heard the girl behind the offer counter ask her coworker what an n-gage was and nearly died on the spot. Apparently someone had a couple games in with the books they were selling. Unfortunately I was not able to stick around to see the madman selling n-gage games to half priced books, but the moment will haunt me forever.
I was thinking of Daddy Caddy through the whole video, so it's rad you mentioned him! Cash Banooka forever!
So nostalgic. I remember having a jailbroken iPhone and being willing to update to 2.0 for the appstore.
Only uncle Derek could make me care THIS MUCH about crash bandicoot racing nitro 3d tag team
15:23 I love when J2me appears in this show! Thanks derek 🙏
pretty sure the song that starts at 34:04 is just a reworked version of the soundtrack from Twinsanity, the first level on the island I think!
Just wanna say, your new set up is looking very clean!
>did you know that they made a crazy frog racing game?
wait, so you're telling me crazy frog starred in non-racing games too? i mean, of course they did, but i can't name any from the top of my head.
When both Caddy AND Uncle Derrick zero in on the same idea, you know that it's got legs!
Possibly even boot-legs
"As soon as your jump activates after a slide you lose all of your forward momentum, you get the height make no mistake but there is no smooth arc to the slide jump here. It feels like a little arm pulls you back as soon as you slide jump, and this little arm has it's own legs." - Caddy - The Miserable World of Completing Crash Bandicoot 4
nothing like caddy helping out hey i'm derek its me derek from stop dereks from derek
Between Uncle Derek and Caddy I am overloaded with Bandicoot... and I love it.
This is like a bizarre revival of the AVGN's Chronologically Confused series.
And I'm ABSOLUTELY here for it.
12:31 We don't speak of Crazy Frog! Getting 'nam flashbacks to those insanely annoying adverts 🐸 Amazing mammoth vid, Derek!
You know this is an SSFF video when the Zeebo is brought up
Now that you mentioned the Nintendo DS, did you know that Crash Tag Team Racing was meant to have a DS port as well?
There's actual pictures of what the project could have been if it wasn't canceled, probably because Vivendi chickened out of the competition with Mario Kart DS at some point.
I would have bought that for sure.
With how the Crash series was at the time, if it was finished it would have been either surprisingly good and better than the console version, or one of the worst games ever made. Nothing in between.
Too bad this video wasn’t released yesterday, it would’ve been the 5th anniversary of the crash iOS racing games’ delisting
Great video guys. Looks like Uncle Derek's been hitting the weights 💪
Love this channel so much. Derek's infectious enthusiasm makes these videos such fun to watch.
"Only one more zeebo video, we swear." I'm glad that wasn't true, lol.
I LOVED this game on my Nokia smartphone running Symbian back in the day. A lot of people (especially in the US where feature phones were the market leaders) criminally underestimate the contributions of Symbian, especially on Nokia devices, to the notion of what a smartphone should be. Apple perfected the formula with the capacitive touch screen rectangle form factor. I might be mixing it up with the ios version buy if my memory is not failing me I think there was an option for motion controls but on Nokia's late 2000s two-way slider phones the "music contol / gaming" buttons which are revealed when sliding the phone open in the opposite direction of the numpad in landscape mode offered a much more traditional gaming layout. Think GBA advance but with the d pad on the right and the face buttons on the left.
Sir, this is outstanding content. Thank you for all your efforts on this. It's not just a report, it's a documentary. I have shared it with others. All good wishes!
I would be mad that this ended up being another Zeebo video if the Zeebo wasn't so fuckin glorious
never knew these games existed until one of NK3D's original characters showed up in the excellent Crash Team Racing: Nitro Fueled
"It's Zeebo Time" is now Derek's morphing call.
That somber piano cover of the Crash theme at the end there...
Thank you for digging out all these versions and showing them to us! You're one of the very few channels who give any regard to pre-iPhone mobile gaming (the only portable gaming in my broke teen years), and your coverages were great so far! I really appreciate that!
I have some objections though.
1. At 16:29, you're telling that the first Crash Bandicoot Java kart game is what the mobile games were at the time. That tells me that you weren't much into mobile games at the time :) Just google up the gameplay of Asphalt: Urban GT 2, the 2D Java version specifically. The speed, the challenge, and the stupid fun of crashing your opponents against the wall in lots of game modes and locations are just pure joy and awesomeness! Even a simplistic, but popular Atomic Underground was much more smooth and dynamic than these Java Crash kart games.
2. At 19:34, you compare the last Java game with a Symbian one and point at the technological progress as a cause of the latter game looking much better. This is not much due to better technology, but due to Java 2 ME's virtual machine being a slow limited crap. This is why the performances of J2ME games were bad, and audio was so poor - nothing could be done about that. But, unlike Java, Symbian apps run natively and have full access to the phone's hardware, just like iOS apps or any computer/console programs do. There were also hacks for some older phones (Siemenses, Sony Ericssons and certain Motorolas) that enabled the possibility to run native apps, and the results were often astonishing. For example there was SieDoom, a version of Doom that ran completely fine on a Siemens phone from 2004.
3. You said a couple of times about the "pre-smartphone era" and that the Crash iPhone games were in the beginnings of that era... That's not true, as _popular_ smartphones date way back to Nokia 7650, which was way before iPhone. What defines a smartphone isn't the presence of a touchscreen and social apps, but the ability to run native apps, with multitasking, filesystem access, background operation and other things that any full-featured OS should have. Aside from smartphones (which usually had no touchscreen actually), there were also larger devices, with a resistive touchscreen and a stylus, often running Windows Mobile - those were called PDAs or portable PCs, and those that also had cellular capabilities were called communicators. There were also regular "dumb" phones, that evolved into feature phones, which had multimedia capabilites and Internet access. The first iPhone wasn't even a smartphone, because the iPhone OS 1.0 lacked even the very basic features, like third-party app support and multitasking, and gained a (very limited) filesystem access only in iOS 11. A Nokia N95 was much more "smart" than those first iPhones :)
_Edits: grammar and readability fixes_
A delisted of the Sony Xperia Play would be really interesting!
holy shit I have one
Derek if you read this I'll mail it in 🤘
Good lord, I didn't realized mobile games could go into such deep rabbit holes. Thanks, uncle Derek!
Derek yelling "and they thought they'd get away with it?!" caused me to break a dish in a fit of laughter.
So long, wedding present dinner plate, you will be missed.
That's sad. But at least it died doing something you liked.
Wabi sabi that baby
hell he's talking about a video game made in Brazil by a Brazilian company, I was born in Brazil and I'm happy to know that there are people from outside who know zeebo
For the fact that you covered all these games, did an evidence board tracking the horrible naming conventions of these games, and DIDN'T giggle when you said the word "skidmarks".... I applaud you, Uncle Derek. You're the hero we need.
Activision _really_ gotta fix that gas leak.
Nah, it's fine, the fumes just help superfuel creativity for Coot Bandicrash Nitrocharged 3 2D Over the Road Racing
Ahh, phones with Java games... how oddly nostalgic, despite unsurprisingly the Game Boy Advance and later the DS were leagues better than what Java could do at the time. You were better off with puzzle games like Tetris... or Snake.
I think Uncle Derek's ad reads are literally the first time I've ever NOT skipped an ad read. I can't get enough of his positive vibes and personality. I'm buying some of that Cometeer coffee too.
We need more Uncle Derek in this world. I really mean that. WE BE VIBIN' LIKE UNCLE DEREK OVER HERE, SON!
The sheer amount of lost games from the IOS store purges is kinda depressing, I hope emulation gets to that part of mobile history at some point. At least Java and Symbian are getting some love when it comes to preservation.
Daddy Caddy and Uncle Derek, brothers in arms
Oh my god, that slow and sad rendition of the Crash Bandicoot theme is great.
Man even my parents had that Crash Bandicoot port for iPhone back in the day, I'm not surprised it's the #1 download haha.
Finally quality content is here 💯
This always shocks me, as a physical Collector and Gamer. Games that vanish after a few years, yet you still can play Super Mario Bros on NES, using an original Cartridge.
I know emulation is a thing and it's a reason to be there, but how scary the digital market is, if something happen with the Game. (even more scarier are cloud only versions of Games, that will die out if it's not selling well)
Piracy is a necessity for preservation. "Keep Circulating the tapes". Companies will not actually bother to preserve their own IPs if they aren't producing money.
@tentaclesmod Delisting stuff is good for social engineering. ESGs and stuff.
All you gotta here is
"HIIMDEREK ITSMEDEREK" and you know it's gonna be a banger.
I think you meant Cash banooka that’s his name now
Shoutouts to caddicarus
He also did his intro wrong. It’s supposed to be “Hey I’m Derek! It’s me Derek from Stop Dereks from Derek!” 😜😜😜😜😜😜😜
Hey man this is a really good comment
Cash Bannoka 4 : In a Big Tent
The Crash Bandicoot Mobile Racers live on in spirit through CTR Nitro Fueled, which added Yaya Panda in one of the Grand Prix free updates, meaning that these games, however minor, did leave their mark on the franchise and it's fans.
I feel like a mini-Delisted episode on the Scott Pilgrim game would be a nice full circle for Derek "The Happy Video Game (Clash at Demonhead) Nerd" Alexander.
Thank you so much!! Whenever you release a video absolutely makes my day ☺️
Ya know how food can sometimes look supernaturally delicious, when filmed?
I feel that way about the original GBA, when I see real hands holding and playing one.
Just an unimaginably fun console.
Chef's kiss.
hahah that was great-- Derek losing his mind of the naming scheme was very entertaining ^_^
I was able to play the first IOS CNK on my dad's old Iphone ages ago, it was alright. Amazed how it suddenly became so rare just a few years later after it got delisted. Shootouts to all people preserving those older apps regardless of quality.
Always good to see people doing videos about the confusing world of Crash Racing mobile names.
Stuff like this makes me appreciate that Sega Forever thing they were doing, if I remember right they brought back Afterburner Climax to mobile after it had been delisted on all platforms for years
That Crash Bandicoot bulletin board is the distillation of SSFF's entire philosophy. Also, that melancholy Crash theme towards the end of the video was pure nirvana.
Appreciating the love for the retro HVGN lately. First the cringe years video and now a reappropriation of the Nightshade punch.
Couldn't help but say out loud "Good games are great, cause they're good!" a few moments this video lol
Love your videos! Ever thought about doing a video on the old Prince of Persia mobile games? There's a bunch, from the the Java phone days right up to old iOS.
Yeah actually! I was planning on doing it back before the remaster got cancelled, but got distracted
The interesting thing is PoP 3 Java had some of the scraped content from the original concept of The Two Thrones, PoP 3 Kindred Blades.
@@StopSkeletonsFromFighting that's awesome! I have some ios devices with all the old delisted games, get in contact if you need anything for the channel
My first job was coding J2ME games for Gameloft. The limitations really were astounding. You had to make sure the game never required two buttons to be pressed at the same time, since some phones just didn’t support that.
Thank you for the insight! And for a part of my teenhood - Gameloft was my favorite developer :) Do you remember game(s) you have worked on?
Gameloft put out some impressive stuff, but also a lot of garbage, from what I remember. Still, I think they probably did a lot to bring mobile gaming forward.
Man, I remember when I was a kid and I bugged my dad for a few weeks to let me buy Crash Racing 3D. Speaking of this era of mobile gaming, I think another game worth a look is DOOM iOS and the legal battle between Carmack and Bethesda, which eventually led to the Unity version of classic DOOM we have nowadays on mobile and PC.
Would really love an iOS emulator, absolutely insane how many historical games are essentially lost to history.
It's pretty cool that Uncle Derek has found a way to make a whole ass living out of collecting the dumbest video game paraphernalia
Yaya deserves more love in th Crash franchise!
I lol’d for a good minute straight at the animal snare drum joke
The rosemary’s baby clip 😂
I want that crash intro with the crazy music played on loop for eternity! I'm gonna make sure my grandkids put a rose on your grave and light a candle each year for your service to documenting this junk. It's a shame there's no source code for the good games to be ported.
The fact that you just got me to watch forty minutes on a game series I never played or really cared about is a testament to your delightful presentation.
The Zeebo Crash song gives me horrible anxiety
Yay, new video from Uncle Derek! Thanks for making the workday much better!
I'm honestly kinda happy to see this getting some coverage; Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart 3D 2 was certainly a personal favorite on iOS... and despite being delisted it's still on my account and playable on anything old enough which has been fun to go back to
I loved tag team racing, and I will not tolerate any hearsay against it
I would never look into this game but I will watch the entire video from start to finish just because I can listen to Uncle Derek rant for hours. I always look forward to your uploads showing up on my page. Great work as always. Keep doing all the things.
Nothing makes my day better than a new SSFF video
You're reminding me of the lost korean version of pop'n music that was only available on KR feature phones. There's a lot of video evidence of it, but because of the proprietary connectors, nobody's ever managed to even get it off the dang phones yet. I was in touch with someone who had it on his phone, and lived less than half an hour from me....but the connector was broken and no data could be transferred off. Absolutely heartbreaking.
Tag Team Racing is one of my favorite games on the PS2
Man this Zeebo stuff is almost like getting Rick Rolled at this point. I'm just sitting here enjoying what I think is a mobile Crash racer video then BOOM Zeebo.
Everytime I see an N-Gage I remember how bad I wanted one at the time. Now I look back and think thank god, a lucky escape.
You don't know what you missed. I have 2 N-Gages since the first one White Screen of Death'd. The other is still playable. That thing gave me some of my best times growing up, and a surprisingly robust social network way before Facebook. I kinda miss those times, it's too bad the platform never took off big.
Oh the ipod touch. I remember when my mom asked what it was I said "it's an iPhone without the phone capability." She asked why anyone would want a phone that can't phone, and when I said "it's for kids where the parents don't want to let them have a phone but would let them play the apps" she understood, because it didn't really occur to her that someone would use a phone for more than just calling and texting.
another awesome video i remember playing nitro kart on my old ipod touch when i was a kid. everyone should listen to barin ruins from the japanese version of the gba nitro kart that song is so good they went hard on it
I cannot believe I'm 3 days late to this video. And I also cannot believe you haven't stumbled onto the wild world of legacy iOS jailbreaking yet. There are big communities separately exploring and preserving the tools, tweaks and mods that made iPhones really neat and fascinating in the early 2010s, and preserving apps and games for the 32-bit era of iOS. One of my all-time favorite mobile games, geoDefense, and its sequel, geoDefense Swarm, was part of the app delisting of 2017. The app preservation community has that and several thousands more iOS games backed up and ready to go. Really now, more work needs to go into emulating iOS to make this software actually practically playable. But if you've got an old iPhone or iPod lying around, and hopefully didn't update it to iOS 8 (remember, that was the beginning of the end!) then you've got a device ready for a big jailbreak and lots of games to get into.
My iPhone also doubles as an iPod loaded with vaporwave goodness, but that's just me :)
I had an iPod touch around that time, and I for sure had that app. If that iPod had more than 3 minutes of battery life, maybe I’d boot it up and play some of that old stuff
This was completely amazing, Derek!
I remember playing crash kart on iOS . But unfortunately I can no longer play it because it was on my old iOS.
Thank you for making the decaf argument. I like coffee itself, a lot of people seem to only like caffeine judging by the faces made at me when I order.
Back in the day these mobile phone games used to put 3D at the end for the higher end 3D Symbian games so you knew which game you were getting because on these phone’s storefronts you couldn’t see screenshots. So the 2008 mobile phone games titled Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart and Crash Bandicoot Nitro Kart 3D are just a way to delineate that specific release’s different versions for different strength mobile devices.
That HVGN Nightshade clip at 13:12 really took me back. How has it been 14 years since that review!?!
Never thought I would hear the words " and after these good examples" after an N Gage game, but there you go.