Just for reference, you can still access your data on unraid when a disk fails. The parity drive is used to emulate the data. It will just be slow to access once you add the replacement disk and start to rebuild parity.
I bought an old datto 4 bay Nas for 114 that came with 2 1tb drives, I replaced those but it feels good having the ability to back up files en masse without needing to either take out drives or leave my main PC on. I just copy whatever I need from my main pc while I'm using it, and then move it with a smaller office PC or my laptop later.
Great server you have there, my server is a Xeon cpu with 12gb ddr3 and it’s in a big super micro case with hot swap hdd bays but I put some quiet fans on mines.
For the powersupply if u are in eu where power prices are high 40ct/kwh You shoud get more like 300w gold rates bc if u use it lower then 50% load its absolutly ineffizient
Very nice build, as always! I do wonder how well that little celeron can handle game servers, especially since you mentioned Minecraft, which tends to like higher clock speeds. I suppose that would probably depend on how many people are on the server and how long that low power chip can hold its burst frequency at a time for. You mentioned that you've had this deployed for the last 9 months, have you tried hosting game servers yet? Also, for those interested in the cheap used x79/x99 xeon route like he did for his $183 AliExpress build or some of the other budget build videos he released, that would be a cheaper option and offer more performance, but the power draw difference is pretty big, so the better choice would greatly depend on what you want to use it for and how much you pay for power. My x99 xeon server pulls around 75W from the wall at idle and around 100-110W under load with no mechanical hard drives (which each pull 7-9W). There are lower power x99 cpus than what I have, but at best they would only drop the power consumption by about 25W under load. In comparison, this build under load probably pulls somewhere in the ballpark of 45-55W, most of which is being pulled by his 4 mechanical drives. Another big thing to consider is the chinese x79/x99 motherboards (and even some name brand boards) often times won't let you boot past the bios without a gpu of some kind installed, so you'll need to invest in a low power gpu (think gt210, gt710, etc.) that you might not even utilize, depending on your use case.
Great thoughts! I have tried it on a single palworld server for only 3 people and there weren’t any issues, but I imagine if I added anything more there would definitely be issues. Luckily the game hosting is the lowest on my priority. Thanks for watching!
i've been a long time unraid user, currently I have a 24tb total array (across x8 3tb drives) on an x99 xeon e5 2699 v3 (18 cores, 36threads) with 128gb ddr4 ecc ram and an rtx 4060 gpu for transcoding. for a while i've wanted to offload my roms collection somewhere else, cuz i'm running low on disk space to feed plex/jellyfin/emby. And i've been looking for a short-depth rack-mountable chassis that I can put on my 9u network rack and provision a 2nd unraid that I can use as a plain-jane NAS , and you've just given me what I needed. Thank you for this! new subscriber here. great stuff!
Interesting server. I was surprised you weren't going with another xeon, but if its doing the job then it's fine. Ive got a old haswell system i was thinking of turning into a server. Only issue is it has stopped working which i think is the PSU fault. I was also just giving an old pc by a family friend which is also a haswell PC and another free kit of 16gb ddr3. So i hope to make a working server out of these PCs. I may end up checking out haswell xeons and see if theres a i7 4790 type xeon CPUs available. Ive got an odd feeling a H87 wont run a xeon like the sandy bridge CPUs did.
Instead of using a thumb drive - which could fail pretty easily after a while, would it make sense to buy a small form factor external SSD and "mount" it in there (just so it doesn't move around)?
Really liked your build video! I just bought the mobo from your link to make a similar NAS, even though I have a higher power TrueNAS system. I like that 2U case, but I'm curious about the amount of fan noise you're hearing. Are you in any way controlling the fan speeds, or are they just running full speed all the time? Thanks!
They are molex powered so they are full speed, but I only plugged in 2 of the 4 to keep them a little quiet haha. They aren’t that loud really, but if you’re going to be on the same room as the server they might be annoying. You can always replace the fans if you want fan control.
@@JasonWitmerYT Funny, I ended up doing the same thing--unplugging the two outside fans. They sure like to whine! I'll eventually replace them with controlled units that are quieter. I basically duplicated your whole build, so thanks for that. Very happy with the
I decided to replace all 4 with the "Be Quiet!" brand 80 mm fans. Ahh...they are super quiet! I plugged them into a cheap Amazon fan hub that has a "normal/half-speed" switch and run them half-speed 24/7. They work great, and the airflow out the back vents is more than adequate. I noticed that with the stock fans, they changed speeds and sounded like they were struggling a bit when I put the top lid on. That told me they were trying to move too much air for the rear vents to handle anyway. After several months now, I'm very happy with the setup. Using TrueNAS and Plex, it's a great home TV/movie server that idles at about 20-25 watts, using four 8GB hard drives in RAIDZ1 (equiv to RAID 5).
Very good video! It's very nice until the ugreen nas comes around for me to build my first home server. Running plex server and a valheim server on a gaming PC in the summer, tends to get toasty.
@JasonWitmerYT did they ship a test unit to you too? I'm curious what you didn't like about it. At first I wanted to go with the same mobo as you, but then decided to wait for the N100 board (that kinda sucked compared to this one), then find a N305 that would have been perfect if I found a good case for it. Now I ended up with the 1235u Ugreen for more or less the same use case as yourself, but instead of Unraid I was thinking TrueNAS with ZFS, as I already bought the maximum amount of RAM. My only fear is for the 10TB Enterprise HGSTs I bought of Amazon, in another country. 💀 Later edit: Found the video about the ugreen.
I liked it a lot, it’s just simple. I’d say the only downside is that it’s not DIY but for a NAS, it’s pretty solid! TrueNAS is solid! Even with some sketchy drives haha. Super exciting
@@JasonWitmerYT day 1 I'm cloning the boot SSD and installing TrueNAS as they more or less got rid of the warranty becoming void if you use third party OSes. As for the DIY part I fully get it as I want to move to a rack mount too, but I do understand that at such a small footprint you must make amends to fit all of those components, but once I'm moving to Ryzen on my PC, I'm selling the 12th gen i7 to downgrade it, and I'm virtualizing everything for the rackmount. The cool thing >12th gen intel consumer CPUs is that they now support ECC finally, and considering QuickSync and the fact that they are beginning to fall in price, I think in 2-3 years they will be perfect for a pretty beefy homelab.
Average r/homelab user 🤣 I have a dormant dual low power Xeon server and AMD FX NAS, which got replaced by 2 N95 mini pcs. So quiet! power is cheap where I live so not much difference there.
Can you please send me pc. My parents refuse to buy me a new one and I use a ryzen 3 1200 and gtx 1050 with 8 gigs of ram. cant even play games at 1080p over 100 fps, so i run games at 720p
@@Hiitss you cant get a good job under 18 years old, you can get a job when youre under 18 but you cant work those hours what over 18 years old people work. And those hours you get are not enough money to buy a pc
@@StefanErikFunny you say it’s not enough hours to get a Pc. Have you tired? Before even trying your coming to conclusion on that you won’t have enough money saved cause u cant work enough hours. What I’m hearing is excuses from you. Instead of begging brother go work hard and get paid. Even if ur working 10 hours a week. In 2-3 months if u maintain spending habits. You will have enough to buy a pc. Just work don’t come to conclusions like you won’t have enough money when u haven’t even went out and tried.
@@Hiitss theres a thing called law and the law says i cant work more then 2 hours and because i am a child i would problably get paid 2 euros an hour at the end your not gonna have that much money(i would get that pc faster with my allowance then the job)
That thing called the LAW also says there is a minimum wage, and you can also work for yourself - push that lawn mower around the neighbourhood and become a self-made man!
Just for reference, you can still access your data on unraid when a disk fails. The parity drive is used to emulate the data. It will just be slow to access once you add the replacement disk and start to rebuild parity.
I bought an old datto 4 bay Nas for 114 that came with 2 1tb drives, I replaced those but it feels good having the ability to back up files en masse without needing to either take out drives or leave my main PC on. I just copy whatever I need from my main pc while I'm using it, and then move it with a smaller office PC or my laptop later.
Nice,idk what a home server is,but its entertaining
😂😂
I’ve been wanting to do this for a while. I’m going to follow this and build a media server
Great server you have there, my server is a Xeon cpu with 12gb ddr3 and it’s in a big super micro case with hot swap hdd bays but I put some quiet fans on mines.
sata3 ssd's are just fine for a potato server. usually you can get 2-6+ sata connectors on a normal mb. by default. only 1-2 m.2 ssd on normal mb.
For the powersupply if u are in eu where power prices are high 40ct/kwh You shoud get more like 300w gold rates bc if u use it lower then 50% load its absolutly ineffizient
Very nice build, as always! I do wonder how well that little celeron can handle game servers, especially since you mentioned Minecraft, which tends to like higher clock speeds. I suppose that would probably depend on how many people are on the server and how long that low power chip can hold its burst frequency at a time for. You mentioned that you've had this deployed for the last 9 months, have you tried hosting game servers yet?
Also, for those interested in the cheap used x79/x99 xeon route like he did for his $183 AliExpress build or some of the other budget build videos he released, that would be a cheaper option and offer more performance, but the power draw difference is pretty big, so the better choice would greatly depend on what you want to use it for and how much you pay for power. My x99 xeon server pulls around 75W from the wall at idle and around 100-110W under load with no mechanical hard drives (which each pull 7-9W). There are lower power x99 cpus than what I have, but at best they would only drop the power consumption by about 25W under load. In comparison, this build under load probably pulls somewhere in the ballpark of 45-55W, most of which is being pulled by his 4 mechanical drives. Another big thing to consider is the chinese x79/x99 motherboards (and even some name brand boards) often times won't let you boot past the bios without a gpu of some kind installed, so you'll need to invest in a low power gpu (think gt210, gt710, etc.) that you might not even utilize, depending on your use case.
Great thoughts! I have tried it on a single palworld server for only 3 people and there weren’t any issues, but I imagine if I added anything more there would definitely be issues. Luckily the game hosting is the lowest on my priority. Thanks for watching!
I like that SNES Donkey Kong music at the end, nice touch lol
Yeah, is that original? What's the song name?
i've been a long time unraid user,
currently I have a 24tb total array (across x8 3tb drives)
on an x99 xeon e5 2699 v3 (18 cores, 36threads)
with 128gb ddr4 ecc ram
and an rtx 4060 gpu for transcoding.
for a while i've wanted to offload my roms collection somewhere else, cuz i'm running low on disk space to feed plex/jellyfin/emby.
And i've been looking for a short-depth rack-mountable chassis that I can put on my 9u network rack and provision a 2nd unraid that I can use as a plain-jane NAS ,
and you've just given me what I needed.
Thank you for this! new subscriber here.
great stuff!
Great setup! And thanks for the support!
Interesting server. I was surprised you weren't going with another xeon, but if its doing the job then it's fine. Ive got a old haswell system i was thinking of turning into a server. Only issue is it has stopped working which i think is the PSU fault. I was also just giving an old pc by a family friend which is also a haswell PC and another free kit of 16gb ddr3. So i hope to make a working server out of these PCs. I may end up checking out haswell xeons and see if theres a i7 4790 type xeon CPUs available. Ive got an odd feeling a H87 wont run a xeon like the sandy bridge CPUs did.
nice DIY build
11:41 😉 when you had a couple of drinks
Nothing better than a few drinks then building a server baby
I liked this video the instant I saw PSO on display in the background.
Ah, a person of culture 🙏
Instead of using a thumb drive - which could fail pretty easily after a while, would it make sense to buy a small form factor external SSD and "mount" it in there (just so it doesn't move around)?
You certainely could - I just use USB cause that's what unraid suggested at the time. You could use a small SSD as well, I believe.
Love the approach
It's a quite cool. I use currently Orange Pi for the purpose.
Really liked your build video! I just bought the mobo from your link to make a similar NAS, even though I have a higher power TrueNAS system. I like that 2U case, but I'm curious about the amount of fan noise you're hearing. Are you in any way controlling the fan speeds, or are they just running full speed all the time? Thanks!
They are molex powered so they are full speed, but I only plugged in 2 of the 4 to keep them a little quiet haha. They aren’t that loud really, but if you’re going to be on the same room as the server they might be annoying. You can always replace the fans if you want fan control.
@@JasonWitmerYT Funny, I ended up doing the same thing--unplugging the two outside fans. They sure like to whine! I'll eventually replace them with controlled units that are quieter. I basically duplicated your whole build, so thanks for that. Very happy with the
I decided to replace all 4 with the "Be Quiet!" brand 80 mm fans. Ahh...they are super quiet! I plugged them into a cheap Amazon fan hub that has a "normal/half-speed" switch and run them half-speed 24/7. They work great, and the airflow out the back vents is more than adequate.
I noticed that with the stock fans, they changed speeds and sounded like they were struggling a bit when I put the top lid on. That told me they were trying to move too much air for the rear vents to handle anyway.
After several months now, I'm very happy with the setup. Using TrueNAS and Plex, it's a great home TV/movie server that idles at about 20-25 watts, using four 8GB hard drives in RAIDZ1 (equiv to RAID 5).
Very good video! It's very nice until the ugreen nas comes around for me to build my first home server. Running plex server and a valheim server on a gaming PC in the summer, tends to get toasty.
Oh nice! I tried that thing out, it’s pretty cool! And yes, doing anything in the summer is torture here as well 💀 I feel you. Thanks for watching! 🙏
@JasonWitmerYT did they ship a test unit to you too? I'm curious what you didn't like about it. At first I wanted to go with the same mobo as you, but then decided to wait for the N100 board (that kinda sucked compared to this one), then find a N305 that would have been perfect if I found a good case for it. Now I ended up with the 1235u Ugreen for more or less the same use case as yourself, but instead of Unraid I was thinking TrueNAS with ZFS, as I already bought the maximum amount of RAM. My only fear is for the 10TB Enterprise HGSTs I bought of Amazon, in another country. 💀
Later edit: Found the video about the ugreen.
I liked it a lot, it’s just simple. I’d say the only downside is that it’s not DIY but for a NAS, it’s pretty solid!
TrueNAS is solid! Even with some sketchy drives haha. Super exciting
@@JasonWitmerYT day 1 I'm cloning the boot SSD and installing TrueNAS as they more or less got rid of the warranty becoming void if you use third party OSes. As for the DIY part I fully get it as I want to move to a rack mount too, but I do understand that at such a small footprint you must make amends to fit all of those components, but once I'm moving to Ryzen on my PC, I'm selling the 12th gen i7 to downgrade it, and I'm virtualizing everything for the rackmount. The cool thing >12th gen intel consumer CPUs is that they now support ECC finally, and considering QuickSync and the fact that they are beginning to fall in price, I think in 2-3 years they will be perfect for a pretty beefy homelab.
Do I need server software?
You can run windows if you'd like, or any OS
subscribed because you have an anime jellyfin server like me
Average r/homelab user 🤣 I have a dormant dual low power Xeon server and AMD FX NAS, which got replaced by 2 N95 mini pcs. So quiet! power is cheap where I live so not much difference there.
HEy 11:44
decent video but the word budget should be removed because it's not really true
Can i get a free pc X dms
Can you please send me pc. My parents refuse to buy me a new one and I use a ryzen 3 1200 and gtx 1050 with 8 gigs of ram. cant even play games at 1080p over 100 fps, so i run games at 720p
Go work can’t rely on ur hardworking parents to get u what u want.
@@Hiitss you cant get a good job under 18 years old, you can get a job when youre under 18 but you cant work those hours what over 18 years old people work. And those hours you get are not enough money to buy a pc
@@StefanErikFunny you say it’s not enough hours to get a Pc. Have you tired? Before even trying your coming to conclusion on that you won’t have enough money saved cause u cant work enough hours. What I’m hearing is excuses from you. Instead of begging brother go work hard and get paid. Even if ur working 10 hours a week. In 2-3 months if u maintain spending habits. You will have enough to buy a pc. Just work don’t come to conclusions like you won’t have enough money when u haven’t even went out and tried.
@@Hiitss theres a thing called law and the law says i cant work more then 2 hours and because i am a child i would problably get paid 2 euros an hour at the end your not gonna have that much money(i would get that pc faster with my allowance then the job)
That thing called the LAW also says there is a minimum wage, and you can also work for yourself - push that lawn mower around the neighbourhood and become a self-made man!