Home Server PC build with Proxmox - cheap, quiet, powerful
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- Home Server PC build with Proxmox. What should you consider when building your Home Lab Server? Which hardware parts should you use and what you can do with Proxmox. Here is my new DIY Home Server PC build and how I've done it! #Proxmox #HomeServer #HomeLab
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Introduction
00:36 - What options do you have?
01:25 - Why I built a DIY Home Server PC?
03:51 - Which parts should you put into your Server?
04:01 - CPU: Intel, or AMD?
07:06 - Mainboard
08:07 - Storage: SSDs, HDDs, and ZFS Pools
10:38 - Memory: ECC and Non-ECC
16:33 - Memory: How much?
16:57 - Case and Powersupply
18:20 - Where can you get the parts?
19:45 - What you can do with Proxmox?
22:34 - What I'm doing next...
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Look how I've built my NAS System on this Server with TrueNAS: th-cam.com/video/M3pKprTdNqQ/w-d-xo.html
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Ventoy is a great alternative to Rufus that runs on Linux and Windows. Once you do initial prep of the USB stick, you just drag over the ISO images. Pretty slick.
Nice, thanks I'll take a look
I love ventoy. Doesnt get it working with pfsense but for most stuff its just drag and drop.
Also you have a EFI Drive with you all the time ;)
@@DigitEgal Ventoy was so great to find, I wish it existed many years ago when I was doing more installations and builds !! I still love it today, forget having a USB stick for each OS :)... even thought that's way better than a stack of CDs. except you can't lose the stack like you can a flash drive
Using user benchmark as a comparison between intel and amd is a risky business.. They are obviously anti AMD and their results are always skewed in favour of intel in comparisons. So if they comeout even in the comparisons in real life it means a win for AMD.
And even then userbenchmark is a gauge of total system performance and there are too many variables in each individual system to draw any significant claims.
Very cool was waiting for that video and great intro BTW i liked it 😁
This video answered so many of my questions! Thank you!
I'm glad to hear that! :)
This is such an interesting video! I love anything to do with this side of technology and you have executed this video fantastically - it's so informative and entertaining! Great content on the rest of your channel too! Keep it up 🔥👍💪
Thank you 😊 makes me happy to see that you're enjoying it!
Great suggestions. I'm rebuilding my NAS this week, and it seems more difficult to spec' full ECC than it was 10 years ago when I put the original system together with Supermicro mobo, ECC UDIMMs and Intel i3 CPU w/ ECC support. The new TrueNAS server will be a nice platform for file storage and to play around with some of the tools you cover in your fantastic walk-throughs. Thanks
very good information in this video, I'm glad I found you!
Thank you so much! :)
Another fantastic and informative video! Thanks again for the effort you put into the channel. I really enjoy your content.
Thank you so much 😃 glad you liked the video!
@@christianlempa Do you think you need a raid controller for these types of builds? And it it possible to get motherboards with two m.2 slots so you could have the operating system drives in a mirrored raid?
Great question! So RAID controllers are not necessary, even contradictory for ZFS. So you should avoid using them, however if you have a RAID controller that supports IT-MODE or passthrough the HDDs you can use it without any issue. The idea with 2 NVMEs is also great. I didn't do that because of the budget and I don't think there is much value in it, but you could technically do it.
Be careful! I found out a problem with the NVME Kingston A2000, it's crashing randomly in Linux OS like Proxmox. It seems to have something to do with Kingstons PowerSaving settings and Kingston released a firmware update for the A2000 series to get rid of this problem!
Download the firmware S5Z42109.bin and update it: www.heise.de/downloads/18/3/0/9/6/7/4/4/A2000_-_S5Z42109.zip
Also be careful when using consumer SSDs in combination with ZFS..
So great, Thank you so much
Glad you liked it 😁
Great Channel! Keep up the good work 👏👏
Thank you mate 😊
the level of qulityin your content you are a complete university my friend i wanted to host some websites i am thinking of doing it in my home lab server so i am researching about and your content is just mazing
Thank you so much! :)
Amazing..!!
Thank you so much :)
Hi Christian it would be great if you do truenas virtualization on proxmox with hardware pass through
Yeah mate, clearly explained!
Thank you buddy :)
@@christianlempa Thanks to PVE, I tested many Linux distros, OSX, TrueNAS & Scale, ESXi, Sophos XG, pfSense, FreeBSD. I also have Proxmox Backup Server running on the same machine.
@@GorkemYildirim That's amazing! I bet I will also use that a lot to try out these things :)
I don't know of you have some kind of firewall build on your home network, but a virtualized pfSense/opnSense/etc video configuration would be great, expecially of made from you becouse every video Is very clear!
Thank you 😊, thats an awesome idea! First I'll make a Sophos XG video and maybe opnsense as well at some point.
Congratulations
Hello. Congratuations to the setup and the video. But my question is: and the graphic card to this processor?
Welcome to PVE :) I'm running 3 VMs @ home: 1. OPNSense with Sensei; 2. OMV 5 with URbackup; 3. WS2019 as DC and UniFi controller. All that on 4590T with 16 ram, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD for backups. The PC is running on 12V from my solar setup :)
Cool that's a nice setup 👍
What was your inspiration to do with with sollar ? Can you give me some links ?
@@TheRealAnthony_real It's better than UPS this way :) For these tasks 4590T is more than enough. It's in a noname SFF case with Fujitsu D3243-S board in it. I repurposed cable from an old PSU for 12V operation and removed the internal PSU. On the negative side the board have only 2 SODIMM DDR3 slots tho...
I would now recommend AMD Ryzen 7 1700 as they can be bought for very cheap and are amazing CPUs , pair that with some good value RAM and some SSDs, i would recommend using Samsung 850 to 850 EVO SSDs, then a nice power efficient power supply, be sure to calculate what each individual component uses in your server then times the power draw by 1.5x then total all power and once again times by 1.5x to not only give you a little bit of head room but also to make sure all components have sufficient enough power bandwidth! :D
Funny you say that because I just built a server with my old pc that had a 7 1700
What is your opinion on Dual CPU servers for virtualization with Proxmox?
What about running proxmox on a fanless miniPC (for permanently running TrueNAS/Unraid and similar always-on services) and integrate the main PC as second server for virtualizing Windows and other operating systems for heavy load applications? Is this possible? The MiniPC would then be zfs network storage, a backup system. If this is possible could you make a howto? :)
A comment about data corruption. Its really important to know when data is corrupted because backup retention is not indefinite. If you find out too late, then its not in the backup and the data wont be recoverable. (Always scrub your data)
Quiet, efficient, powerful and not too expensive 👏
How satisfied you are with it now @TheDigitalLife?
Would you recommend some newer AMD now (maybe 5700G)?
Could we expect early 2022 edition of it soon ? ;)
I'm pretty satisfied, still I use it in my new server rack. However, I would recommend a newer model of Ryzen, maybe with a GPU unit. I will add one recommendation in my new storage server build, so stay tuned for it :)
most consumer intels don't support ECC while all Ryzen CPUs do( though not all AM4 mainboards). You can run an AMD rig with no GPU, you'll just have no graphical ouput besides a tty. This is enough if SSH and webservers are all you need(proxmox).
Man, my server consists of 2 e5-2470's from 2012, 10 years old, but it still does really well for my use case, but the top PCIE slot doesn't work with x16 length cards, it just wont post, but x8 or lower it works fine for some reason., I just need more storage.
Hi.
I am my way to make this same build but I am checking around for motherboard now. Does ECC works correct on your motherboard? Many motherboards accept ECC-memory but they are runnit it as non-ECC.
Great question man! I was concerned about this, too. On Linux you can check whether your memory is running in ECC mode by executing the "dmidecode -t memory" command and look for the ECc multi-mode section. If it's there based on the dmi specifications, your memory is running in ECC mode. In my case it is! So it should work... hopefully 🤣👍
I am using the i5 10400 and 32GB of ram and samsung 500gb 870 evo plus nvme in my home server. Proxmox with 3 ubuntu server vms (pi hole, mail server with iredmail, minecraft server) and 2 windows 10 pro vms (used for remote access). Its so good. I snaged it up for 140EUR and what was a deal for me is that it has integrated graphics. I have another server i5 6500 that runs only windows server 2022 for active dir and as a nas server and as well as a vpn (all home computers are windows as you see)
What is your power draw with this system in idle and load?
Hey Christian, A+ for the explanations on every topics:) I have a question about proxmox ha (3 servers) and kubernetis ha (closter), do you need both? Ore can I get away with Kubernetis closter alone on 3 servers?
There are so many possible setups for Kubernetes. I'm planning an update video on my homeserver soon where I'll use TrueNAS Scale for Kubernetes. And I probably will discuss also the installation on VMs or bare metal. Hope this will help you out. (btw, it's planned for next year)
Hello Christian, I have a powerful gaming desktop with 64Gb RAM and great graphics card. Can I use the same computer as a Proxmox server and client to access my VM created in Proxmox? If this is not a good option what are the minimum specs of my client pc?
Hi Christian, can you please recommend a mini ITX motherboard which is compatible with Ryzen 5 3600? I really liked your setup in general, but for me having a smaller case like Fractal Design Node 304 is better option.
I don't have a specific one, but I'd look at some A320, maybe from AsRock or similar.
I’m wanting to do a few things a true nas jellyfin/plex and was hoping to do a opensense router all in proxmox is that possible with a 1700x ryzen cpu and 64g ram and an old 1080 ti It’s some old hardware I have laying around and wanting to try this stuff out
Would you recommend running a 3400g if only setting up a NAS for backup and a plex server?
Yeah I think that should be sufficient 👍
Can you please post an in-depth video where the virtual machines are deployed? I am new to this stuff.
Also, if I just want a dedicated server for docker containers, do you recommend proxmox or simple os with say ssh? Thanks.
About creating VMs probably not, maybe some more advanced stuff about Proxmox. As for the containers, I would deploy a Linux machine and install Docker on it, that’s how I’m doing it ;)
Have any of you tried to run the VE on a 12th gen Intel machine? The new hybrid CPUs have P-Cores and E-Cores and I’m not sure if Debian is able to see them. If Intel is going in this direction, then all future CPUs will have the similar characteristics. Apparently the future Intel Enterprise CPUs (Xeon) will use the LGA1800 socket which will almost identical to the LGA1700 of the Alder Lake.
So I guess at one point Proxmox will have to follow the trend with the new generation CPUs.
I ask a Proxmox guru like you: Can we install VE on a 12th gen motherboard and take advantage of 12th gen. full functionality?
👏👏👏
What will be the difference in performance on the same server if you were to install a docker architecture instead of proxmox?
Usually the virtualization layer doesn't take too much performance, so it won't make a huge difference.
in my region, it's very difficult the find this particular ram, are the KTD-PE424E model usable?
Puh haven't tested them, but I guess if the model supports ECC, it should be pretty straightforward
Hey, this is a bit older video, but did you have any issues with the Realtek RTL8111H network card that's on that board? Most AMD motherboards have that and I just wanna be sure it's compatible as I know Proxmox is a bit picky with network cards.
No it works without any issues :)
@@christianlempa Thanks a lot. Did you use the official installer iso?
Hi! Great video! I was thinking of using Proxmox on a fanless computer. Do you think it's possible?
Thank you! Totally depends on the CPU and the powerconsumption of it, I would do a good research on the model you're aiming for.
instead of fanless, perhaps try with fans running very slowly? you can connect them to the 5 volt of your PC instead of 12 volt. Even with very slow speeds, it's a night/day difference, and a slow fan can be near completely quiet
Can you please recommend on sata PCIE extension for additional ports? That would work with IOMMU?
I'll soon make a video about my new storage server, there I will use a PCIE SAS controller card.
will this work a media server for a couple of people ?
Just discoverd your channel. Nice one! Sub! Btw, are you from austria? If so, greetings from vienna ;-)
Thanks mate! I’m from Germany ;)
A redundant hard drive is not something specific to ZFS, it's just RAID... ZFS brings a _TON_ of other useful features, that are not dependant on RAID arrays (as in they come through the file system, not the hardware used.
Also, RAID5 and RAID6 in btrfs is still unstable and is not to be used unless for testing pruposes (or if there is an easily accessible backup of the data stored on the array available).
Also, the (supposed, I run it and will not run non-ECC RAM with ZFS just to be safe)) benefit of ECC with ZFS arrays is not connected with software RAID arrays, but to the fact that ZFS stores checksums in RAM. Running a scrub with corrupted RAM could cause a 'scrub of death', destroying the data in the array. But apparently this is the same for most filesystems as well.
That's for sharing your insights!
Indeed. Look out with ZFS on normal consumer grated SSDs. Your SSDs will die very fast. I use Mdraid for my Proxmox OS installation (not running the actual VMs on). This wasn't very straightforward installation. But I'm very happy with my current setup using software raid and not using ZFS.
Also good to tell ZFS and btfs are two different things.
@@MelroyvandenBerg do u use btrfs in your nas or proxmox?
Hi looking at your KIT site, the RAM is different from you video and is it ECC compatible, doesnt appear to be?
Sorry, I've updated the page because I replaced the memory, but I forgot to update the ECC memory modules that I'm using in my storage server now. Added them!
@@christianlempa ok also you have two kits one for this promox build the other is a storage server build. Is there a video for that and why two different builds? What are the differences use cases for.
AMD CPUs are also more power efficient, especially if u look at the 11th gen furnace.
you might see an Intel CPU at 65W and an AMD one at 65W and think they consume the same power, but that's not true, as intel's TDP is calculated at base clocks, while AMD's one at their boost, so there is a significant power consumption difference.
However with precision boost enabled (as well as Intel's similar), it will also push further than the rated TDP for as much as it can, but that's beside the point.
That's interesting, on the paper they look pretty similar but it seems there are even more arguments for AMD nowadays! Thanks for sharing your experience, bro 😍
They should also mention idle power consumption. Even desktops are most of their lifetime in "idle" mode.
@@datawolk true and that's where Intel shines again! I've got AMD systems myself but those 10th gen Intel are pretty damn power efficient when idleing and on light loads.
@@christianlempa Thats true, my desktop PC´s consumption is logged. With a Ryzen 7 2700X + MSI GTX1700 Gaming X it barely touches 200W. Normal use is around ~100 to 150W. Also you have to consider that i am using a lot of external stuff and 5 Disks connected.
Furthermore i disabled C-States and CPU Parking wich would get the consumed power even more down.
Is there any downside to running truenas inside a virtual machine than directly on the hardware?
I don't see much downsides when you do it right, but there are some things to consider. I'll make a separate video on that!
Hi there, I'm building my server and searching for the motherboard I came to this video!
And you talk about almost everything that I've already look for, awesome!!!
I have a question, is more, your opinion: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G or AMD Ryzen 5 5600X? Eh eh I can't decide!!! Lol
PS: I have already the motherboard that you used here is migrating from an older project lol
Cheers mate
Thanks mate! I guess for a homeserver I would go with the 5600G because you can save the money for a GPU (it has a built-in one), the 5600X not, and for a homeserver, if you're not running any CPU intensive workloads, a higher clockspeed won't make a huge difference in a virtual machine scenario.
True I'd also get the 5600G as it is more power efficient as you don't need an extra GPU and possibly do GPU transcoding on the iGPU if they finally got it working well with VAAPI or AMF. I myself did a mITX build with a R1600 years ago. It's still running great but since I need my dual 10G nic, I am running it headless, which is just terrifying to do updates or reboot in general! But even if I didn't have a PCIe card I probably would not put in a GPU since I don't wanna pay the electricity cost for a GPU I basically don't use... The GT710 consumes more than one would expect
Does ASRock motherboard boot without graphics card (if Ryzen doesn’t have integrated one) or do I have to have something in order to boot? I’m talking after installing ProxMox
Hello, can this setup handle multi user websites
My greetings from Russia, not bad decision to use AMD vendor, especially when ecc support included. Do they have something like Intel Xeon processors? Right now Xeon processors so cheap but mainboard for home environment not support ecc
Thanks mate! AMD has their Threadripper series which is a workstation CPU, and also their Epyc series which are their server CPUs
Is there a (much faster) alternative to the RPI4 as a home server, that is energy efficient and quiet at the same time for a small budget?
How about an odroid sbc or an Intel NUC. Also I think AMD has their first sort of NUC
The new AMD NUC style systems like the Asus PB50 and PN50 are great for the price and very robust platforms for a home server if you are looking for something new. Check out the Project TinyMiniMicro from ServertheHome for a bunch of reviews on dozens of small form factor computers many of which are purchased used when companies upgrade.
Rizen R5-3550 mini pc supports NVMe & SSD. Upto 32Gb DDR4 from $345 without memory or disk. Maybe Qonzo brand. I’m building one, chose because it runs off 12v low power (laptop chip vega graphics) and my power is solar & battery. For Proxmox VM’s, storage and backups. Will probably run a miner on its base deb linux too.
I've had poor experiences with Dell workstations, between acting as dust magnets to the point cleaning it required masks or looking away when taking an air compressor to the inside, and proprietary components making replacements nigh impossible.
Hi, I'm new to the proxmox server scene and lovin it. I really enjoy your content. I have a small question. When you install proxmox on let's say a 500gb boot disk, it takes the entire disk. Is there a possibilty to use the non-used space to store for instance iso's and how do I do that? Can't seem to find information about it. Thx. Grtz Dirk from Belgium (Europe)
Hey thank you! :) you need to partition the disk with a tool like fdisk or gdisk and then you can use each partition. However Proxmox does have a partitioning to use the boot disk as local-lvm as well.
@@christianlempa thx for the fast response. I'll look into to it. Keep those video's coping. Grtz dirk
Coming
Could i use this kind of server build to stream a looped video with OBS on youtube to create a 24/7 stream?
I have no idea :D Not done this before
@@christianlempa Thanks for responding anyway - i'll definitely use poxmox tho! :)
Do you have any idea what the average power consumption is for you? Idle and under load? Thanks!
I’ve done a full video about that and there will be some updates as well soon
@@christianlempa Oh sorry, must have missed it, Awesome videos, keep it up !
what microphone u use? ur voice very clear n loud
thanks mate! I guess there I used the elgato wave 1, but now I switched to Shure SM7B
Can we do software raid on esxi also ? Or it's possible only for proxmox?
I'm not sure, as I'm not using ESXi, but I think that's not their main focus, Proxmox or TrueNAS would be better for that.
@@christianlempa thanks for the information
Are there still issues with AMD motherboard LAN controllers from Realtek having issues with the likes of VMWare?
Haven't noticed them, in my base all worked out of the box.
is 16gb flash drive is enough for rufus installer?
absolutely
Hello, could you make a tutorial on how to spin-down hdd in Proxmox? thanks in advance!
Well, probably not sorry. I don't spin down my drives in Proxmox or TrueNAS.
some of the parts are no longer available :( any alternatives for the existing list that you recommend?
there's no way to find the case anymore, any good alternatives?
Hm strange, as in my country the case is still available on Kit.co. You might check out some cases from Fractal Design, they're also pretty good.
@@christianlempa was thinking about Be Quiet 500DX, what are your thoughts?
@@user-iw8cq4fv4q haven't used it, but usually BeQuiet always stands for goof quality. So that would work well I guess.
I need a server Equipment for 19 Zoll. Can i bild this i a 19 Zoll 4HE?
I'm planning another home server video next year, hopefully for 19" rack :D But yeah, you can basically put anything in a 19" case, that's probably what I also will do.
How do you manage this server? Do you have any video about pikvm?
There will be some update videos about Proxmox and my Homelab soon :) Haven't used pikvm before, but seems pretty interesting! Thanks for sharing!
This was a great video. However, I need to repurpose an old Dell XPS 8700 PC.
It has an I7-4790 with 4 cores and 8 threads
It can take up to 32 GB of non-ECC Ram
I want to use it to store family pictures and videos and as a plex server... Will it cut the mustard, or should I pull the plug on it? Since I am also replacing my PC, my budget is limited
Thanks! Well from power efficient standpoint you might look at a newer refurbished model something 7th gen onwards
@@christianlempa 6 and 7 series use almost the same amount of power...
Do you do video's on Synology products and/or packaged....MailPlus Server. You have the best DNS Video re setting up your own in house mail exchange, thank you so much.
Thanks mate, I would love to do videos on Synology, maybe they'll send me one in the future :D
Personally I'm looking to have an old dell r320 as a Sophos firewall and a file server, maybe a media server also but the last one is not a priority
Cool!
The ECC dram can cost as much as the whole rig by itself.
I know this video is a few years old, but I wish you had kept the kit links for it instead of replacing it with your rack space one.
Some of them aren't up 2 date, or sold out, that's why I had to remove them :(
Just one NVMe PCIe SSD 500G, 500 GB as a storage to run VMs on it. No raidz or something? Thanks
It's just for my VMs, I have some HDDs connected to my virtual TrueNAS for filestorage.
@@christianlempa Yes, I think that it makes sense for a home server. I'll probably switch to a fast SSD myself too since my VMS lie on a zfs pool (mirror) consisting of two HDDS now, and everything is way too slow. PS: I saw that in order to write in your discord community members have to give their own phone numbers to verify their identities. Why? Thanks
Unfortunately there are too many scammers on Discord that I needed to raise the verification level
The story about ECC was very confusing. If you run non-ecc memory any file system might be destroyed by intermittent errors. Also ext4 and ntfs use free memory to store disk records, disk administration and log entries. If they are corrupted in the memory and written back to disk, the results might be catastrophic. Intermittent memory errors will destroy any file system. If you want to avoid the minimal chance of intermittent memory errors, use ECC memory for any file system. Of course, if you use 64GB of memory, the chance on memory errors will be 4 times higher than with 16GB of memory.
I have confidence in my non-ECC memory and for more than 4 years I use ZFS without any issue on desktop with 16GB DDR4 (3000MHz); on laptop with 8GB DDR3 (1333MHz) and on my Pentium 4 backup-server with 1.5GB DDR (400MHz). The one time I had memory issues with one of the four 512MB sticks, the Pentium 4 crashed during start-up, when passing the 1GB boundary :) Which show that it is wise to run a memory test after changing memory or in case of doubt.
Can you make a vid on how to host different stuff In a home pc server plz
I'll make more videos about home lab stuff, for sure :)
Have you here ziggo? Greets of netherlands
ziggo? What’s that?
@@christianlempa that is an Ethernet provider in the Netherlands and the use 192.168.178 subbnet default
there are enough cheap and very fast cpu with high threadcount and gpu by AMD! (look for a "g" at the end of the amd cpu names)
What's your power consumption with this hardware?
I recently made a video about all devices and power consumption
@@christianlempa Cool, will check it out. Thanks
I want my own home server but I have energy consuming concerns because it’s going to be turned on 24 hours.
There will be more content around this topic in the future! So stay tuned ;)
Zfs by design does not require ecc
Didn’t say that
those zooms lol
What do you mean? XD
@@christianlempa the face zooms ;)
AMD has APU versions...
also christian ECC haette es dann doch bitte schoen schon sein sollen ;)
Dang, those cases are expensive. There are cheaper cases you can get
There are always cheaper cases out there, but are they better? I'm open for suggestions 😁
Very cool video, however there's one caveat : never use a normal SSD for your ZFS volumes, even for caching ! ZFS is very intensive on read and write, and it will kill your non-pro drives very rapidly.
Apart from that, I built my new homelab about two months ago and just found out your video, I am glad I did it right because my setup is quite similar to yours !
Thanks mate! I don’t know if that’s really true anymore, with modern SSDs the lifetime should be much different that professional SSDs, I know there are a few downsides doing it, but I guess a mixture of running HDDs for storage and backups and SSDs for vm storage seems the best option for me :)
@@christianlempa I believe it is especially true for modern SSD's. Most of them are QLCs while enterprise-grade SSDs are still using SLCs.
Nevertheless, that's what I read several times while fiddling with TureNAS and Proxmox regarding ZFS : don't use entry-levels SSDs.
@@betadyne9559 I read it as well, but this doesn't necessarily have something to do with the lifetime, but with the missing power loss protection. In a corporate environment, sure, this might be a big problem. But on consumer side, it's the same as with ECC. It's recommended, but it also works without, maybe not so stable, perhaps not with such a huge lifetime.
@@christianlempa Dunno, I might give it a try and see if performance increase are worth the risk !
@@christianlempa TLC, and QLC drives suck.
I always try to get slc or mlc.
Had a root partition on an ssd going bad after 3 years normal use...
they arent loud because they are professional ... they are loud because they are cheap
For zfs i believe they recommend 1gb of ram per gb of storage.
Yeah it's somewhat like that, I think on TrueNAS they have a recommendation for that.
No. That recommendation is for times when you're going to do compression and de-dupe. If you aren't doing those things, then that recommendation is simply untrue and out by a huge amount. Source: I've got 16TB of ZFS storage in effectively a raid1+0 with 8GB RAM in an HP Gen 8 microserver ...meaning I've been running that way without incident since about 2016. Before that, I had 16TB of storage and 8GB RAM in an HP N40L Gen 7 microserver, purchased in 2012.
I store a large collection of classical music FLAC files, so compression is never required and neither is de-duplication.
Now, I'm reading that zpool a lot, and not writing to it much. And I'm definitely not running VMs on that server. But 8GB has done fine for over a decade.
Short version: ZFS does *not* intrinsically have huge RAM requirements.
@@dizwell Thanks for your insight! I also have made my experience over the last months and can say it does not require the memory to function. BUT, if you frequently transfer large files, it helps a lot to put more memory into the system for caching. So I don't regret putting a bit more than I would need.
Stop using userbenchmark site.
700 eur ain't cheap
For a server it is ;)
In my opinion, ZFS isn't worth it for home systems. It requires INSANE amounts of resources and gives back very little. Amahi, on the other hand, can run on a single 1ghz thread with 1gb of ram and do pretty much the same thing. And as long as you make backups or use raid you should be fine for data redundancy.
Sorry but I totally disagree. It's very useful for NAS systems, Backups, Performance, Compression... can't believe that you're saying this 😮
FYI: It's called a "Motherboard", not a "Mainboard." Great video otherwise though!
Cheap ? 😂😂🤣🤣🤣. You can buy enterprise server way more powerful bi Xeon 32 core and 32 ecc GB for 200$
If you can afford the electricity bill, sure, go for it ;)
@@christianlempa 140W with 2x E5-2650L a p2000 and 8 X 3.5 HDD one ssd and one nvme not so bad
The 📅 presented stable illustration. As things usually are