+singleminded84 I think now that Alonso is gone Ferrari made the car so that it's balance now suits both Vettel and Kimi. It's just that Kimi still has a lot of problems getting the tires work with his driving style. The tires work in too small window and the teams can't even do proper testing to make them work for sure. Those tires favor natural style of some drivers and are bad for others. It's almost like they're not racing the car anymore, but racing just tires.
+Omnia in numeris True and that was also one of the reasons why KImi was so great in 2012 and especially during first half of 2013. The tyres were much softer and you had to be really gentle to them to maximize their potential in the race, and Kimi was excellent doing just that. Unfortunately Kimi's way of driving is just not suited to these much harder tyres, but luckily for next year there will be new "super-super-soft" compound and teams can freely choose the other tyre compound for each weekend....that should help Kimi somewhat, although the decision to use softer tyres wont be solely based on Kimi's preferance ofcourse.
+michael16 That's true. I think Kimi would've won at least two championships with McLaren against Schumacher if It wasn't for McLaren's catastrophic unreliability.
Kimi from 2003-2007 was the fastest driver I had ever seen. Good lord his speed was monstrous. Where is this driver? Nobody comes close when he drives like this.
+Ciaron Smith Schu was the only other driver I can remember (I didn't watch the Ayrton Senna days, mind you) that was so relentlessly fast in the races. Current tyre regulations prevent this sort of awesomeness though :(
+spronkey Watch the opening stint of the 2005 Spanish GP before he pits. The best opening stint I have ever seen from a driver. Just, as you say, relentless. Pirelli are such a joke right now. Great brand, but how can they justify changing the tyres so often and producing such terrible compounds? Ruining the racing. Should be like the old michelins. Cars should have more downforce as well. Kimi is being limited. He still has it imo.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Kinda late, but I also think Montoya at Williams was phenomenal. He held the track record at Monza until earlier this year. His pace was phenomenal, too bad that he didn't have the luck to match. If it weren't for Malaysia, Brazil and that farce of a penalty in the USA, I reckon he could have won the WDC, even taking Japan into account. His Germany 2003 drive basically proves my point.
+Petar-Vertex Than lock yourself in a bunker and watch old tapes from a better time. A year later, you'll come out and understood that things weren't better in the past, they were just different.
+RandomUsername I wouldn't say so. Like he wasn't exciting in 2012 - 2013 in Lotus? Schooling drivers in better cars like it was nothing. Ferrari is just now getting the car even remotely competitive and he has had a lot of technical issues this year. I hope 2016 is the Ferrari year, maybe he can pull off just one more championship win.
+Richard In terms of racecraft and consistency he was very good indeed in Lotus, but even then Grosjean was just as fast over one lap. 2007-2009 Massa usually had the upper hand in qualifying. And let's not even mention his current spell at Ferrari where Alonso thrashed him and now Vettel is doing the same on a consistent basis. Fastest ever? Hardly.
RandomUsername Haha, he was a world champion in Ferrari, Massa wasn't. Grosjean clearly lost both seasons to Kimi. And Let's not pretend like Vettel and Alonso haven't had bad seasons. Last year Vettel was schooled by Ricciardo. You really think Kimi has suddenly lost all his skills after going to Ferrari? The car has been total shit, but it seems that it's getting better for him. He has retired already 3 times this season. Without those retirements he would be max 20 - 30 points from Vettel. I see no reason why he wouldn't match Vettel next season or even beat him.
i gotta admit Kimi had balls the size of melons when he was at McLaren, that was super, i loved those cars, u can see instantly how the car is going thru like a champ, never too twitchy never too tight, this was real race cars, i love the sound,, rip roaring.. wrooom wroom haha
@@SchumiJr. I have. They're overrated. People like the 412 because it was the last V12, but it was a rubbish car. It got one win, and it couldn't do an in lap after that. It was a joke. Also, 312, really? The DFV sounds better than that.
Fisichella can blame only himself taking that defending line into the chicane when it wasn't even necessary.. Weird mistake from such experienced driver like him.
Still can't believe that he managed to win that race. Despite starting in the back of grid, he and McLaren still pulled through. That made this victory all the more sweet.
A guy with some of the worst luck ever. Still, I consider him to be approximately 3 times World Champion (2003 and 2005 were spoilt by reliability, 2008 was spoilt by idiots).
@@sebastian16682 he was leading comfortably before Monaco. Plus the alleged conspiracy that Ferrari shafted Kimi to drop him and sign Alonso as per Santander’s request.
OldGeekGamer it's an illusion created by the boring V6 engine sound and skinny posture of the cars, laptimes are much faster these days. The cars also got 200-250 bhp more.
This race didnt only show that he was fast.. but one stop also explained how good he is with car and tyres. Miss u kimi.. i hope in 2018 u just give us a few races like this. Its not about winning it about seeing u all out..
Back in the day when Raikkonen drove with real aggression and hunger. Oh and no DRS or fancy engine boost buttons either. He really should have won the championship at least once with McLaren. Kimi has so many second place finishes in his career... if he had won even half the races where he finished second he would be a double or triple champion. A wasted talent really.
Not a wasted talent, but a talent that never got to be in the fastest car in his career, yet he still challenged for titles, 2003 and 2005 he should have won it
No wonder Ron Dennis is always so grumpy looking went from having glorious moments like this to having several dnfs and finishing near the back of the grid
While the races of the time weren't always as great, as a visual and audio package this is definitely what F1 should be like. The cars look fast, it sounds fast and it was fast. F1 going forward needs to at least get back too one of those traits as right now it has none of them.
2017 cars are unbelievably fast. They have the fastest cornering speeds ever! So they ARE faster (and are going to beat track records in most races, I believe), they look extremely fast (just watch Kimi going round turn 9 in Spain). They only thing they're missing is the "sounding fast", which is a matter of opinion, if you ask me. I do prefer the sound of the V10s, but yeah, life goes on.
Well I was referring to this year, even last year you could say the same thing. The problem is with these newer cars is that overtaking has become much more difficult
Overtake is not always the best part of a race. Kimi chased Fisichella with a massive lead of 20 seconds cutting the gap by a second consitentently. That's beside the fact that he started at 17th.
Like Alonso's moves earlier it was a pass that beggared belief in terms of its sheer audacity and fearlessness, but with the added piquancy of taking place on the last lap!
Back in the days when engines were loud,cars were good looking and racing was at it's peak. True less overtaking compare to nowadays but more excitement with it's pit strategies. Looks boring at times but the noises produced by the engines really made it up for it. Something which you don't have right now.
McLaren had 7th gear too short that weekend. Kimi was bouncing off the rev limiter when he was in the tow. Otherwise, that pass on the straight would have been much easier.
although kimi won world championship with ferrari, kimi with mclaren was the real kimi
+arsenalgunners I don't think Ferrari's car fit his driving. I even like him better in 2012 Lotus than Ferrari.
+singleminded84 Kimi in that second graded Lotus car was just mega. Always gets the best out of that car.
+singleminded84 I think now that Alonso is gone Ferrari made the car so that it's balance now suits both Vettel and Kimi. It's just that Kimi still has a lot of problems getting the tires work with his driving style. The tires work in too small window and the teams can't even do proper testing to make them work for sure. Those tires favor natural style of some drivers and are bad for others. It's almost like they're not racing the car anymore, but racing just tires.
+Omnia in numeris True and that was also one of the reasons why KImi was so great in 2012 and especially during first half of 2013. The tyres were much softer and you had to be really gentle to them to maximize their potential in the race, and Kimi was excellent doing just that. Unfortunately Kimi's way of driving is just not suited to these much harder tyres, but luckily for next year there will be new "super-super-soft" compound and teams can freely choose the other tyre compound for each weekend....that should help Kimi somewhat, although the decision to use softer tyres wont be solely based on Kimi's preferance ofcourse.
+michael16 That's true. I think Kimi would've won at least two championships with McLaren against Schumacher if It wasn't for McLaren's catastrophic unreliability.
Kimi from 2003-2007 was the fastest driver I had ever seen. Good lord his speed was monstrous. Where is this driver? Nobody comes close when he drives like this.
+Ciaron Smith Schu was the only other driver I can remember (I didn't watch the Ayrton Senna days, mind you) that was so relentlessly fast in the races. Current tyre regulations prevent this sort of awesomeness though :(
+spronkey Watch the opening stint of the 2005 Spanish GP before he pits. The best opening stint I have ever seen from a driver. Just, as you say, relentless. Pirelli are such a joke right now. Great brand, but how can they justify changing the tyres so often and producing such terrible compounds? Ruining the racing. Should be like the old michelins. Cars should have more downforce as well. Kimi is being limited. He still has it imo.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Kinda late, but I also think Montoya at Williams was phenomenal. He held the track record at Monza until earlier this year. His pace was phenomenal, too bad that he didn't have the luck to match. If it weren't for Malaysia, Brazil and that farce of a penalty in the USA, I reckon he could have won the WDC, even taking Japan into account.
His Germany 2003 drive basically proves my point.
One time in Monaco (2005 I think) Alonso had pole position. Kimi beat it by an entire half a second.
I agree kimi is an amazing driver but I thinm alonso could come close with him.
those downshifts and upshifts sound SO GOOD man oh man.
+bud ley that sound when you hear each gearbox part was one the reasons why you start watching f1, nowadays we cant even hear the engine :(
I am not, it s just big difference from past :P
+Petar-Vertex Than lock yourself in a bunker and watch old tapes from a better time. A year later, you'll come out and understood that things weren't better in the past, they were just different.
wow you know a lot
That McLaren Mercedes looked soooo good. The color and design, just stunning.
And sounded great as well.
We want this design BAAACK again !
Sound was the 🤤🤤🤤🤤 Mozart to ears
if Mclaren was stable at that time..... Kimi would've more championship titles right now.... there's no driver like Kimi..
The fastest and most exciting F1 driver ever. Also loving his no BS attitude. Go KIMI
Also I recommend watching this video while playing JAWS Theme song
+Richard Maybe 10 years ago, certainly not anymore.
+RandomUsername I wouldn't say so. Like he wasn't exciting in 2012 - 2013 in Lotus? Schooling drivers in better cars like it was nothing. Ferrari is just now getting the car even remotely competitive and he has had a lot of technical issues this year. I hope 2016 is the Ferrari year, maybe he can pull off just one more championship win.
+Richard In terms of racecraft and consistency he was very good indeed in Lotus, but even then Grosjean was just as fast over one lap. 2007-2009 Massa usually had the upper hand in qualifying. And let's not even mention his current spell at Ferrari where Alonso thrashed him and now Vettel is doing the same on a consistent basis. Fastest ever? Hardly.
RandomUsername Haha, he was a world champion in Ferrari, Massa wasn't. Grosjean clearly lost both seasons to Kimi. And Let's not pretend like Vettel and Alonso haven't had bad seasons. Last year Vettel was schooled by Ricciardo. You really think Kimi has suddenly lost all his skills after going to Ferrari? The car has been total shit, but it seems that it's getting better for him. He has retired already 3 times this season. Without those retirements he would be max 20 - 30 points from Vettel. I see no reason why he wouldn't match Vettel next season or even beat him.
Exceptionally talented F1 Driver , just can't believe the bad luck that he had , but always entertaining when I see Kimi good on full attack mode :))
This is the most awesome clip for a Raikkonen fan, and perhaps one of the best ever overall.
legend says kimi used to smile once
Once
mwoah
Sahil Mander when he won the championship
Kimi at his Prime
No Drs, just pure talent and driving skill
That's one of those overtakes I will remember all of my life. Amazing stuff from Kimi.
One of the greatest drivers set hes foot in F1, a true racer.
Without a doubt Kimi's greatest race EVER!!
i gotta admit Kimi had balls the size of melons when he was at McLaren, that was super, i loved those cars, u can see instantly how the car is going thru like a champ, never too twitchy never too tight, this was real race cars, i love the sound,, rip roaring.. wrooom wroom haha
the last of the breed of V10s.
Oh boi, Kimi really is a legend. Even if he retires in the coming years, his victories like this one will never be forgotten. :,)
Omg, V10, the best engine of Formula 1ever.
what? in 2005 they used v10's mate
Rodrigo Bedin no, the best engine ever is the v12 and his scream
@@SchumiJr. No its not...
@@lotusraptos go listen the magnific Ferrari 412 t2 engine sound or the ferrari 312 and let's see if u have not changed idea...
@@SchumiJr. I have. They're overrated. People like the 412 because it was the last V12, but it was a rubbish car. It got one win, and it couldn't do an in lap after that. It was a joke.
Also, 312, really? The DFV sounds better than that.
0:04 Kimi with a big smile! :O A rare phenomenon!
This is on the Ayrton Senna zone. I love Kimi!
From start to finish the best race I've seen in 15 years of F1
Fisichella can blame only himself taking that defending line into the chicane when it wasn't even necessary.. Weird mistake from such experienced driver like him.
+JayIlary Well that's why Fisichella never among the best.
Still can't believe that he managed to win that race. Despite starting in the back of grid, he and McLaren still pulled through. That made this victory all the more sweet.
Hell of a move no balls no glory
what a driver this guy is...
A guy with some of the worst luck ever. Still, I consider him to be approximately 3 times World Champion (2003 and 2005 were spoilt by reliability, 2008 was spoilt by idiots).
Why 2008 was spoilt by idiots?
@@sebastian16682 he was leading comfortably before Monaco. Plus the alleged conspiracy that Ferrari shafted Kimi to drop him and sign Alonso as per Santander’s request.
thanks f1 for putting this up with no commentary!
Maybe I'm just getting old but the racing seemed faster and more competive back then. Now it's mostly a procession, with races won in the pit lane.
OldGeekGamer it's an illusion created by the boring V6 engine sound and skinny posture of the cars, laptimes are much faster these days. The cars also got 200-250 bhp more.
Nope, thats incorrect. You can go compare 05 and 16 japanase gp fastest laps. 2005 is 4 seconds faster.
the v10s had nearly 1000hp. i dont think the v6 engines have 1200 hp.
+Kokainsamurai v6 hybrids only put out 1000bhp when the ERS kicks in (which isn't for the entire lap)
NorthernMonkey you are right, formula 1 lacks in competition nowadays. I miss the days when every team had a chance to win a race.
I loved Ron Dennis's and the mechanic's reaction when Kimi passed the Renault.
Sigan publicando videos del 2006 hacia atras, INCREIBLE nos pone el corazon a mil por hora, al recordar esos tiempos, los mejores.
Kimi is best....outstanding skills
this is the ice man
KIMI RAIKKONEN
For me that year had the sexiest cars in a long time hopefully next years rule changes will bring back the sexy cars
Ger Ruddy 2007-2008 for me
Thank you kimi❤
This race didnt only show that he was fast.. but one stop also explained how good he is with car and tyres. Miss u kimi.. i hope in 2018 u just give us a few races like this. Its not about winning it about seeing u all out..
Fisico gave Kimi quite a hard battle for the lead in that straight. Awesome clean battle, an spetacular overtake.
Back in the day when Raikkonen drove with real aggression and hunger. Oh and no DRS or fancy engine boost buttons either.
He really should have won the championship at least once with McLaren. Kimi has so many second place finishes in his career... if he had won even half the races where he finished second he would be a double or triple champion. A wasted talent really.
Not a wasted talent, but a talent that never got to be in the fastest car in his career, yet he still challenged for titles, 2003 and 2005 he should have won it
More of a talent that was thrown away by unreliability issues
I watch these older races all the time, I can't believe what they have done to this sport since 2014!..The sound in itself was amazing before 2014!
No wonder Ron Dennis is always so grumpy looking went from having glorious moments like this to having several dnfs and finishing near the back of the grid
2005, the year when F1 reached its maximum (quality)
This race is when Kimi became my favorite driver.
Kimi ❤️
While the races of the time weren't always as great, as a visual and audio package this is definitely what F1 should be like. The cars look fast, it sounds fast and it was fast.
F1 going forward needs to at least get back too one of those traits as right now it has none of them.
2017 cars are unbelievably fast. They have the fastest cornering speeds ever! So they ARE faster (and are going to beat track records in most races, I believe), they look extremely fast (just watch Kimi going round turn 9 in Spain). They only thing they're missing is the "sounding fast", which is a matter of opinion, if you ask me. I do prefer the sound of the V10s, but yeah, life goes on.
2017 cars are only faster during qualifying
BlaizeV Modern F1 cars are as fast as they've ever been before, it's just the sounds that have changed
Wasn't the case in 2016, Frantic.
Well I was referring to this year, even last year you could say the same thing. The problem is with these newer cars is that overtaking has become much more difficult
And that kids is a true overtake, no DRS or any kind of assistance.
god i miss those engine sounds..
watched it live when i was 6 years old, my favourite grand prix. Cant believe its 12 years ago already...
man he could have won some championships with mclaren , too bad the car was unreliable at times
When on point they're the absolute best cars on the grid, too bad this is rarely the case.
every car who's on point will be the best car of the grid
WHAT A SOUND!
Wow! That was of Kimi's best over taking.
Its prime of kimi careers
This is REAL Formula one
best overtake ever!!!!
Kimi's best race
Pure epicness, and oh my god that helmet of kimi is best looking of all ever
that was a great overtake...one of my all time favorite, thanx kimi
Demonic sound from the depths of 10 cylinders..
1:38 honestly superb camera work there
please F1, BRING THIS SOUND BACK!!!!
Big stupid aero and dirty air you can't have any passing lol. Man Kimi was a beast
Cuanto sabe Kimi 👏🏻 saludos de Chile!
Seeing Ron Dennis happy just makes me happy for some reason 😂
Thank you Peter Windsor!
miss those V10 engines!! hope Kimi wins the Japanese GP this weekend!
F1 BRING THIS BACK TO RACING.
That Ron Dennis reaction.. No words to say..
That McLaren looked ready to fall off the road at any moment. To get an, admittedly easy, overtake was pretty impressive.
f1 history ever, fastest, interesting driver.
One of the best races ever
Overtake is not always the best part of a race. Kimi chased Fisichella with a massive lead of 20 seconds cutting the gap by a second consitentently. That's beside the fact that he started at 17th.
BRILLIANT!!
Best dry f1 race ever
that overtake was proper proper
One of the most amazing drives.
i LOVE those years, that sound
Sin duda alguna , uno de los adelantamientos más impresionantes de la historia de la F1
Ah the days when F1 had you on the edge of your seat with excitement..
The days when McLaren actually won races! I remember watching that pass live.
my goodness..how bloody fast those beast back then. Miss them!
This is the kimi I like
0:01 Kimi enjoying the rare drink...
Great vid thanks
How you overtook cars in 2005: Good pace
How you overtake cars now: DRS
How kimi overtakes ferrari in 2020 in the sauber without DRS
Best race that I've ever seen.
dayum! that was bad ass driving
Like Alonso's moves earlier it was a pass that beggared belief in terms of its sheer audacity and fearlessness, but with the added piquancy of taking place on the last lap!
mclaren kimi was so fast, had fantastic control ability.
BWOAH Kimi driving like a world champion
Amazing victory! Great Kimi
the speed of those V10's was massive!!!
I miss that sound.
thats the most animated i've seen Kimi
Great Memories! Go Kimi Go!
This has got to be the next best move after Mika and Shumi at SPA
Back in the days when engines were loud,cars were good looking and racing was at it's peak. True less overtaking compare to nowadays but more excitement with it's pit strategies. Looks boring at times but the noises produced by the engines really made it up for it. Something which you don't have right now.
Classy performance by the IceMan !!
Come on Fisi, come on! No drs, no partymode. Just Kimi!
Rally B-group and Formula v10. Miss those days.
McLaren had 7th gear too short that weekend. Kimi was bouncing off the rev limiter when he was in the tow. Otherwise, that pass on the straight would have been much easier.
Man, I love THAT NOISE!
That's the sound Formula 1 cars today should make.
These cars were the Formula 1 !!!
proper f1