To those who really want to believe that Ohtani is guilty. Please read the affidavit. Why do so many people form opinions about a story they have not read? Are you intentionally keeping the information out of date because you don't want to know that Ohtani is innocent? Sorry my English is bad.
When everything was exposed, Ippei begged Ohtani to pretend that you had shouldered the debt, but he refused. Ippei tried to involve Ohtani to the end.
As a Japanese, I would say Shohei’s English ability is somewhat around 20-30% of native people, which is enough to have casual and baseball related conversation, but not enough to communicate complicated situations. Regarding Ippei’s translation, I remember some big mistakes (probably intentional). For example, when Shohei said good things about Korean players, Ippei said he doesn’t care. Considering tensions between two countries…
i think you’re forgetting that based on the filing, Ippei also was intentional in removing the eyes of Ohtani’s agent . when he helped Ohtani create his bank account in 2018, he said that Ohtani did not want to share his bank details to them. All the while Ohtani was made to believe that his agent and accountants have visibility of his bank account, and ippei does not have access to it. it is also a failure from his agents.
I can't imagine why people still believe this is a coverup, even after three Federal agencies had a detailed report exonerating Shohei and nailing Mizuhara. The Feds have no reason to risk their careers and reputation (not to speak of getting indicted if caught) for one MLB player.
This is what happened with Will Ireton (Ohtani's new interpreter) and the HR ball. After Ohtani's first HR ball as a Dodger was caught by a fan, she was escorted out by some park staff and (allegedly) forced to agree to return the ball to Ohtani. The method of that retrieval was controversial. In addition, after this agreement was communicated to Ohtani, he answered during the post-game interview in Japanese that "(someone) spoke to the fan and she agreed to return the ball". When he said that, he skipped the subject probably because he didn't know exactly who spoke to her and it is customary to skip the subject in Japanese language when the subject is either obvious or unknown. Ireton, however, translated it in English as "I (Ohtani) spoke to the fan" by adding the subject at his discretion. Some reporters took issues and purported as if Ohtani had lied about it. Ireton should have known that Ohtani hadn't spoken to the fan because if he had, Ireton would have been called in to help Ohtani talking to the fan.
naxos41: You are correct. bout [Japanese language when the subject is either obvious or unknown. Ireton, however, translated it in English as "I (Ohtani) spoke to the fan" by adding the subject at his discretion.] As a Japanese speaker, I often omit the subject since it is obvious. Also, Japanese nouns lack grammatical numbers, gender, and articles. 🐐🐐🐐🐐
“Allegedly”. Bro… The dude wrote in a text “Yes, technically I’m stealing from Ohtani.”. And the released info by the feds is as clear as it can be. There’s nothing “alleged” here. Only not yet convicted.
Ippei lied, how many times? Addicts lie to cover lies. 1)Ippei gives a false statement first to ESPN. 2) After the game in Korea, he “confesses” the same made up story to the Dodgers team and management, when Shohei walked in and asked what it was about, Ippei refused to translate, instead said:”I will explain all back at the Hotel” 3) Same night at the Hotel meeting room, Ippei and Shohei talk: Ippei tells what he told to everybody and asks Shohei to agree to Ippeis own version of “Shohei helped to pay his debt” 4) Shohei get shocked and immediately calls NEZ BALELO to come to the meeting room with another interpreter, 5) Nez, hears the story and immediately calls to legal and crises professionals from LA and NY. 6) Ippeis wife is also joining their meeting, shocked as she too never knew. 7) Next day, the Agents officials denies Ippeis story from the day before and Ippei agrees he lied. 4-7 was published in NY Times on April 15.
That specific account was created in haste to register a salary account the week he arrived to USA 2018, in Arizona during Spring Training. After the opening, Shohei NEVER used this account as soon as he was back in LA, his Agency created new necessary accounts which Shohei used all these years. So the account in question hasn’t been used, nor withdrawn money from since. Just accumulating payments and bonuses all these years. So Ohtani didn’t have any notifications and didn’t think much of it because he didn’t have any transaction, he thought.
Ok so say Shohei gambled. Ok so he gambled. Like why are the conspiracy theorists spending so much of their energy on this. He'll just get a fine. But HE IS NOT, 9,700 pages of text messages assuming 60 lines per page is roundly 582,000 text messages.
This is probably the most important point people don't understand. There is precedent for using an illegal bookie and the punishment was a fine. Even if Shohei is "guilty", the punishment is a non-factor. Unless you believe the feds lied about whether the bets were on baseball too lol.
No the new interpreter didn’t lie, but it’s in Japanese language that the subject is not mentioned, can be taken either as Shohei met the person or somebody else met the person. Will Ireton (the new interpreter) is more substance than Ippei who became sloppier and sloppier the past years…
Yes, you are right. - As a Japanese speaker, I often omit the subject since it is obvious or unknown. Also, Japanese nouns lack grammatical numbers, gender, and articles. 😰😰
One of the requirements from Shohei was the new interpreter had to know what the money line was on a handicapper of an Over/Under parlay of a triple action teaser bet.
If Ippei was not ohtanis translator we won’t have a Dodger ohtani. Just imagine what lies and biased advice he was telling ohtani so they won’t have to move out of LA. We could have ohtani blue jay or Yankees ohtani
I don’t think those teams would have paid that much money. He wanted to stay on the west coast, and with a strong team that would be in the playoffs every year. And by deferring that money they dodgers can throw all kinds of money at players
Hey, Jeff Passan apologizesed about Even a second doubting SHOHEI Otani in YoTube..just yesterday ‼️ JEFF , what a world you clould say such an insane as putting a SHOHEI OOtani down. Nobody gonna believe you will be a great source to talk about SHOHEI OHTANI ever ‼️
@@mirikaku5811 Go back in last few years when they talk about Ohtani for MVP and his remarkable seasons as a pitcher and batter. Many times he say batter like Judge and Vlad deserves MVP more
I would say I'm an ohtani fan. At bare minimum I try to catch as much of his at bats as I can, even if it's highlights. I'm trying to go to a reds game where they play the Dodgers. That said, I'm not totally sure here. I just don't understand how anyone has their buddies bank account info. Like my very best friends in the world who I would trust with my life dint know a single digit of my bank account. Now I get he had to help him, but he had access to his money?! I mean if so, then I'll believe it.
He didn't have permission to use his bank account. He helped him set it up so he kind of knew how to get into it. But he had to pretend to be Ohtani to get the bank to send the money.
@@ksong695 it’s obvious so few people took the time to read the complaint, or watch the press conference where they explained many parts of the complaint. It’s pretty much all in there. Anyone asking these questions didn’t look at it at all
@monkeyboyjonathan42 I run two business' and work around 80 hour weeks. So excuse me if I don't have much time to sleuth. Catching the highights each day and these videos is about all I get. I thought asking those with that time would be better, but apparently not.
@@wyldeman7 that’s fair that you don’t have time, and those are fair questions to have. I didn’t mean to single you out in particular but I can see how it appeared that way. My apologies. As long as people are willing to change their mind after being presented new facts, that’s all I care about. It’s the people who cannot be convinced otherwise that I have a problem with. They made up their mind and any evidence to the contrary is fake or it’s being covered up. The ones who do have the time, but they keep blabbing about how “nobody can convince me that he isn’t betting” or “there is no way that he didn’t know” and refuse to accept the possibility and also throw out the evidence because “it’s just a cover up” like the FBI and IRS and DOJ care about a foreign national who plays baseball. Believing in the conspiracy with no evidence for that over the simpler explanation with a lot of evidence is pretty nuts.
I haven't really been paying attention to this, but I have yet to hear whether or not this guy had legal access to Ohtani's accounts, or if he had power of attorney. It would seem that he would need that in order to carry out a theft of this level. Also, how were all of these transfers conducted and not flagged as suspicious by the bank. I mean, the IRS climbs up us average peoples a**es over $500.00.
To those who really want to believe that Ohtani is guilty.
Please read the affidavit.
Why do so many people form opinions about a story they have not read?
Are you intentionally keeping the information out of date because you don't want to know that Ohtani is innocent?
Sorry my English is bad.
When everything was exposed, Ippei begged Ohtani to pretend that you had shouldered the debt, but he refused. Ippei tried to involve Ohtani to the end.
Ippei is a lowlife thief.
As a Japanese, I would say Shohei’s English ability is somewhat around 20-30% of native people, which is enough to have casual and baseball related conversation, but not enough to communicate complicated situations.
Regarding Ippei’s translation, I remember some big mistakes (probably intentional).
For example, when Shohei said good things about Korean players, Ippei said he doesn’t care. Considering tensions between two countries…
i think you’re forgetting that based on the filing, Ippei also was intentional in removing the eyes of Ohtani’s agent . when he helped Ohtani create his bank account in 2018, he said that Ohtani did not want to share his bank details to them. All the while Ohtani was made to believe that his agent and accountants have visibility of his bank account, and ippei does not have access to it. it is also a failure from his agents.
I can't imagine why people still believe this is a coverup, even after three Federal agencies had a detailed report exonerating Shohei and nailing Mizuhara. The Feds have no reason to risk their careers and reputation (not to speak of getting indicted if caught) for one MLB player.
This is what happened with Will Ireton (Ohtani's new interpreter) and the HR ball. After Ohtani's first HR ball as a Dodger was caught by a fan, she was escorted out by some park staff and (allegedly) forced to agree to return the ball to Ohtani. The method of that retrieval was controversial. In addition, after this agreement was communicated to Ohtani, he answered during the post-game interview in Japanese that "(someone) spoke to the fan and she agreed to return the ball". When he said that, he skipped the subject probably because he didn't know exactly who spoke to her and it is customary to skip the subject in Japanese language when the subject is either obvious or unknown. Ireton, however, translated it in English as "I (Ohtani) spoke to the fan" by adding the subject at his discretion. Some reporters took issues and purported as if Ohtani had lied about it. Ireton should have known that Ohtani hadn't spoken to the fan because if he had, Ireton would have been called in to help Ohtani talking to the fan.
Can we get a capable translator. Ireton should've realized Ohtani haven't met up with her yet and should've clarified with Ohtani to be safe.
naxos41: You are correct. bout [Japanese language when the subject is either obvious or unknown. Ireton, however, translated it in English as "I (Ohtani) spoke to the fan" by adding the subject at his discretion.]
As a Japanese speaker, I often omit the subject since it is obvious. Also, Japanese nouns lack grammatical numbers, gender, and articles. 🐐🐐🐐🐐
Pat's the only guy with common sense. Seriously why do people think the mlb is bigger than feds and IRS? Goddamn fools
“Allegedly”. Bro… The dude wrote in a text “Yes, technically I’m stealing from Ohtani.”. And the released info by the feds is as clear as it can be.
There’s nothing “alleged” here. Only not yet convicted.
They need to say that.
Ippei lied, how many times? Addicts lie to cover lies.
1)Ippei gives a false statement first to ESPN.
2) After the game in Korea, he “confesses” the same made up story to the Dodgers team and management, when Shohei walked in and asked what it was about, Ippei refused to translate, instead said:”I will explain all back at the Hotel”
3) Same night at the Hotel meeting room, Ippei and Shohei talk: Ippei tells what he told to everybody and asks Shohei to agree to Ippeis own version of “Shohei helped to pay his debt”
4) Shohei get shocked and immediately calls NEZ BALELO to come to the meeting room with another interpreter,
5) Nez, hears the story and immediately calls to legal and crises professionals from LA and NY.
6) Ippeis wife is also joining their meeting, shocked as she too never knew.
7) Next day, the Agents officials denies Ippeis story from the day before and Ippei agrees he lied.
4-7 was published in NY Times on April 15.
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Thank you Pat.
Great show👍 Ippei sucks 💩😡 a legit liar!! We 100% believe in Shohei and support him!! 🦄🤴💙
not everybody, sadly, there will still be people coming up with outrageous theories without providing any evidence.
Ippei Mizuhara is an evil conman. Betrayal, deceitful, liar and thief,
A lowlife thief.
ippei is the fall guy! the haters said. but it turns out ippei wanted shohei to take the fall for him.
Being able to hold a basic English convo is not the same as some detailed convo level when it comes to financial issue.
Pat McAfee is fair, and he is helluva funny.
That specific account was created in haste to register a salary account the week he arrived to USA 2018, in Arizona during Spring Training. After the opening, Shohei NEVER used this account as soon as he was back in LA, his Agency created new necessary accounts which Shohei used all these years.
So the account in question hasn’t been used, nor withdrawn money from since. Just accumulating payments and bonuses all these years. So Ohtani didn’t have any notifications and didn’t think much of it because he didn’t have any transaction, he thought.
Ok so say Shohei gambled. Ok so he gambled. Like why are the conspiracy theorists spending so much of their energy on this. He'll just get a fine. But HE IS NOT, 9,700 pages of text messages assuming 60 lines per page is roundly 582,000 text messages.
This is probably the most important point people don't understand. There is precedent for using an illegal bookie and the punishment was a fine. Even if Shohei is "guilty", the punishment is a non-factor. Unless you believe the feds lied about whether the bets were on baseball too lol.
Jeff wanted Shohei in jail.... He needs to find a new job
No the new interpreter didn’t lie, but it’s in Japanese language that the subject is not mentioned, can be taken either as Shohei met the person or somebody else met the person.
Will Ireton (the new interpreter) is more substance than Ippei who became sloppier and sloppier the past years…
Yes, you are right. - As a Japanese speaker, I often omit the subject since it is obvious or unknown. Also, Japanese nouns lack grammatical numbers, gender, and articles. 😰😰
I believe that shohei works through an interpeter is mostly for his japanese audience
as much for him understanding the language
One of the requirements from Shohei was the new interpreter had to know what the money line was on a handicapper of an Over/Under parlay of a triple action teaser bet.
What about Giancarlo Stanton? He's been stealing from the Yankees for years!
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If Ippei was not ohtanis translator we won’t have a Dodger ohtani. Just imagine what lies and biased advice he was telling ohtani so they won’t have to move out of LA. We could have ohtani blue jay or Yankees ohtani
I don’t think those teams would have paid that much money. He wanted to stay on the west coast, and with a strong team that would be in the playoffs every year. And by deferring that money they dodgers can throw all kinds of money at players
Hey, Jeff Passan apologizesed about Even a second doubting SHOHEI Otani in YoTube..just yesterday ‼️ JEFF , what a world you clould say such an insane as putting a SHOHEI OOtani down. Nobody gonna believe you will be a great source to talk about SHOHEI OHTANI ever ‼️
Pat McAfee is "a rat" and keeps lying about Shohei Ohtani's negative stories even Ohtani is proven innocent.
Passan hates Ohtani so I’m sure he is hoping Ohtani was in on the betting .
Why would Passan hate Ohtani?
@@mirikaku5811 Go back in last few years when they talk about Ohtani for MVP and his remarkable seasons as a pitcher and batter. Many times he say batter like Judge and Vlad deserves MVP more
I follow Passan quite a bit and never got that impression. He's about as even keeled as it gets for Baseball reporters...
that doesn’t mean he hates him at all. And many reporters had that same feeling
Take a responsible what you are talking about. Take the risk.
Pat McAfee has never sat down in his life
These monsters are scary, like Halloween scary....
I’m Asian and I like to gamble with my own money not my wife money.
This show is a joke. They know shit about anything. Sports shit like this is why I don't watch them
Why ruin the look of your show with AJ sitting there a smiling like a dough head
I would say I'm an ohtani fan. At bare minimum I try to catch as much of his at bats as I can, even if it's highlights. I'm trying to go to a reds game where they play the Dodgers.
That said, I'm not totally sure here. I just don't understand how anyone has their buddies bank account info. Like my very best friends in the world who I would trust with my life dint know a single digit of my bank account.
Now I get he had to help him, but he had access to his money?!
I mean if so, then I'll believe it.
please read the affidavid
He didn't have permission to use his bank account. He helped him set it up so he kind of knew how to get into it. But he had to pretend to be Ohtani to get the bank to send the money.
@@ksong695 it’s obvious so few people took the time to read the complaint, or watch the press conference where they explained many parts of the complaint.
It’s pretty much all in there. Anyone asking these questions didn’t look at it at all
@monkeyboyjonathan42 I run two business' and work around 80 hour weeks.
So excuse me if I don't have much time to sleuth. Catching the highights each day and these videos is about all I get. I thought asking those with that time would be better, but apparently not.
@@wyldeman7 that’s fair that you don’t have time, and those are fair questions to have. I didn’t mean to single you out in particular but I can see how it appeared that way. My apologies.
As long as people are willing to change their mind after being presented new facts, that’s all I care about.
It’s the people who cannot be convinced otherwise that I have a problem with. They made up their mind and any evidence to the contrary is fake or it’s being covered up.
The ones who do have the time, but they keep blabbing about how “nobody can convince me that he isn’t betting” or “there is no way that he didn’t know” and refuse to accept the possibility and also throw out the evidence because “it’s just a cover up” like the FBI and IRS and DOJ care about a foreign national who plays baseball.
Believing in the conspiracy with no evidence for that over the simpler explanation with a lot of evidence is pretty nuts.
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Pat and his ‘baseball is boring’ takes are such a snooze.
So go watch Alex Jones or something
Don't trust this man He is making a story that can't believe. It's fake guy
???
The Feds would absolutely cover something like this up.
you think the feds gives a fck about baseball? lol
People love a movie like scenario.. read the affidavit then talk
Why would the Feds protect Ohtani? The Feds would love to bust Ohtani because that would look great on their wall.
Massive L of a comment
I haven't really been paying attention to this, but I have yet to hear whether or not this guy had legal access to Ohtani's accounts, or if he had power of attorney.
It would seem that he would need that in order to carry out a theft of this level.
Also, how were all of these transfers conducted and not flagged as suspicious by the bank.
I mean, the IRS climbs up us average peoples a**es over $500.00.
Read the affidavit.
All the details are in the federal complaint. You had the IRS, Homeland Security, and the AG's Office all investigate this case.
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@@ksong695 Sorry.
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READ THE DAMN FEDERAL REPORTS, all your questions are answered there.