The Swiss gov't cancelled the annual Chronometer-time-trials in 1963 and the Concours de Geneve in 1968 after Grand Seiko started winning them. That pretty much tells you all you need to know about the Swiss...
But Japanese came with their winning mechanism, as a gift to Swiss watchmakers, saying "they are here to make progress, not to prove they're better". Japanese watchmakers are very very accurate. To them everything is about respect, honor and honesty. The new 36000 beat spring drive mechanism, is a work of art, to me...out of this world...
Mike Langelo 36000 high beat and Spring Drive are completely separate movements. 36000 has 36000 bph, spring drive literally has 0 beats. Seconds hand is a perfectly smooth sweep
@Ant Bo it doesn't say anything about the swiss, it does say that those watchmakers and institutions involved in the trials and concourse competitions did not like being beaten at their own game, "it's my ball and you're not playing" springs to mind
Oh yeah? Check out that lumpy speck on the dial of the GMT (under the "i" of Seiko). You can see it in all the shots of that part of the dial, but seeing the hand pass over it @7:13 confirms it's actually ON the dial. GS's quality control is moving toward Seiko-level QC
@Leah Do and what does this have to do with watches? You're like that one random football is the best sport comment found in a lot of videos. Rant somewhere else
I own a Grand Seiko Diver (Spring Drive), and I would say when someone buys a Grand Seiko, it ain't really for the sake of the branding just so that one can swag with it (unlike the other brands like Panerai or Rolex), one usually buys a Grand Seiko because they want a Grand Seiko along the extreme accuracy, and the amazing amount of under-rated craftsmanship and R&D the watch carries; not because it is a brand which you necessarily go around showing off with. I love Grand Seiko because while they maybe under-marketed like the many Swiss brands, they are so secure and confident in the watches they make that it seems below them to bother competing with the Swiss watch brands over branding or popularity. That to me speaks volumes and a sense of maturity in terms of the company's direction. It feels like a master inventor who has nothing to prove, and strives to improve himself instead of dealing with the petty fights amongst inventors. As a Grand Seiko owner, I also feel that I have kept myself away from brand/watch snobbishness (which tends to occur with the other more luxurious Swiss brands). Whenever I tell my friends my best watch in my collection is a Grand Seiko (while they have Rolexes, R.M. and Pateks), they tend to give me frown and even hint disapproval simply because it ain't "popular" or it ain't Swiss/European; But to me I feel that knowing what makes my Grand Seiko great just makes me smile in response instead of bothering with trying to fight back or make a case for Grand Seiko for I know the quality and stats speak for itself, and hey I am sparing myself from the endless cycle of watch Snobbishness and constant ego measuring. One just cannot deny the fact that Grand Seiko can give many of the Swiss luxury brands a run for their money, and have to admit Grand Seiko is definitely up there with the top renown Swiss watch brands. So yes, I am a proud owner of a Grand Seiko and will always recommend and choose it over a Rolex, Omega or Patek. P.S. I will probably give it to Rolex just for their money retention and re-sellability lol
What I like about GS is they are 100% made in Japan. Whereas, "Swiss Made" simply means the movement (51% of the watch according to Swiss law) was either "designed OR manufactured OR inspected" in Switzerland. There are several factories around Hong Kong and China that make "Swiss Made" watches from start to finish and simply print "Swiss Made" on the dial and Westerner's buy them up for thousands of dollars because "Swiss made is the best". There is zero transparency in the Swiss Watch World and it's impossible to say which watches are made in Switzerland and which are made in China. GS on the other hand... 100% Made in Japan.
Indeed. Alot of the luxury Swiss watch brands these days are very 'cloak and dagger' more than they used to back in the day. Just look at Rolex with the suposed "Rolex Drought" where the apparent lack of Rolex watches in the market is due to demand and the factory being unable to meet it. Personally I find that questionable and its just strange Rolex can't or refuse to givea hard answer as to why it is happening. Personally i feel it is just their desire to rack up demand by limiting accessibility and then having that as a reason to jack up the prices.
Got my snowflake a few weeks ago. I originally wanted my first rolex and got so angry with the prospect of having to work to give someone my money I quickly started to look elsewhere. I also decided that I enjoyed the idea of a more understated 'stealth wealth' approach and love the fact most people arent familiar with GS. The company were the best I have ever dealt with making purchase and bracelet resizing during the pandemic a breeze. The watch is beautiful and I spend far more time than I should staring at the dial. Definitely a GS convert and really happy with the watch.
Been blessed to currently own a SS Rolex daytona, an Omega seamaster, a Grand Lange, an AP royal oak.. then bought 5 GS in a row(was only intending to buy 1)... currently own all 9 watches.. and a GS is on my wrist 95% of the time... the experience they illicit is incredible.. and knowing it was hand finished and assembled makes it even more special... the bang for buck is on another level
I'm waiting for Seiko to put a bracelet/clasp that's better than what you find on their $500 watches before I consider a GS. The bracelets on these watches really are a joke at this price point.
@@Brian-ee1gx This was my hesitation when I first went to the AD to try them on for the first time based on all the negative comments I had read online... Once I tried them on I really couldn't understand all the negative comments...they were extremely comfortable on my wrist and if I were blindfolded I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the bracelet on my sbgh269 vs the oyster bracelet on my 116520... like I said I ended up buying 5 pieces in the span of 8 months... to each his own
@@Brian-ee1gx I agree with you on the clasp - no micro adjustment, that really should be improved. he clasp could definitively be improved. However, I would not let that hinder you in enjoying a GS. They are still amazing pieces.
I don't understand why GS has to prove its value again and again. They produce simply some of the best watches on the planet with an incredible attention to detail. I own a Sea Dweller (which I don't wear) and a Datejust and both of them do not come close in terms of aesthetics - okay probably the Datejust does. But compared to most of the GS collection the details of the Rolex look somewhat old-fashioned. So, would I go for Grand Seiko? Yes, definitely. The more often I see them the more I fall in love!
The only issue is if you ever try to sell one. You lose a lot of money. I did. I know you should only ever buy a watch you want to keep forever but life doesn't always work like that.
It's because Rolex showed the entire industry that you don't need consistent innovation to win the market, all you need is a airtight control on supply and demand coupled with some of the slickest marketing history has ever seen - anyone buying Rolex for the horological value is saying it to humble brag, it's all about investing and having that five-pointed crown - you could argue that without them the luxury watch industry would not be what it is now, but the consequences of that is that no other brand will ever come close in recognition in the world
@@theonlyredspecial. That's why you don't buy new. Used or Grey market only. If you do that you should lose nothing, or even turn a profit if you are savvy. GS quality puts Rolex to shame. My GS SBGR 309 is a step above in finishing to my Explorer 214270.
Rolex is an overrated mass product. But fanboys don't want to hear that. For the price you get two Omegas or three Grand Seikos which are at least as same as good if not even superior.
@@Nikioko The finish on the Rolex is excellent, however I wear my watches so the finish does not survive daily wear and tear anyway. The main issue is that they just don't seem to keep time as well and require more frequent tuning than the GS movements.
@@kickinthegob I didn't say that Rolex watches are bad. But just not as good as to justify those prices. But that's due to artificial shortage. If it comes to value (quality per price), there are better watches.
Well from a purist point of view, it’s not a fully mechanical piece so it doesn’t matter how good it is as many see it as a hybrid of some sort and not a true mechanical movement.
@@Odat Always seems like a ridiculous argument to me, from someone on the outside looking in. It's not a mechanical movement because it mechanically creates an electrical charge seems to be the purist argument correct? Despite the fact the electricity is produced from a mechanical process only.
Everything expensive I have ever paid for that comes from Japan, is astoundingly good. Even the Honda snowblowers that I have owned are thoughtfully crafted works of art, that make sense, and work dependably.
I was purchasing my Speed master at the Omega premier store in Hawaii a few years back. The sales manager asked if I was familiar with Grand Seiko. She has been with omega for over 15 yrs and she admits GS is her favorite and how GS always steals the show at the world watch conversations. I now own two spring drive GS and truly convinced no other watch maker in the world comes close!
@@Cortesevasive as true as that is with the Caliber 0200, nobody really associates Citizen to luxury these days, which is a shame since it's just as accurate as the Superlative and Coaxial Chronometer.
I purchased the Grand Seiko GMT Spring Drive SBGE201 to commemorate passing my advanced medical boards, and I absolutely love it! I chose it over the Rolex GMT because of the amazing technology in the Spring Drive (the smooth movement of the second hand is mesmerizing!). Also, everyone has a Rolex. The Grand Seiko name might not have the same cache as Rolex, but it is still a beautifully made watch, and true lovers of horology appreciate its precision. I can't wait to purchase another GS for the next milestone in life 🙂
Hey Ace..GS is Straigth Quality..that gmt looks more sporty than anything rolex has thrown out there..i dont care what ppl say about rolox..GS is a hardass watch that last a lifetime
I personally own two GS's. I have been collecting watches for year and years. I believe they are some of the finest watches on the market today. Worth every penny.....
I cant believe grand seiko sent you the watches for the review, speaks a lot about an old company when they can adapt to the new watch enthusiast’s enviornments. Just makes me love them even more
@@vianouche1 just like I said, what is surprising is how well and old company like seiko embraced the new times. I dont see companies like omega sending out watches for reviews do you?
@@vianouche1 lets take for example nintendo, it was founded in 1889 that's pretty much as old as a brand can get, and if you haven't heard, recently they've been doing some very poor management decisions with the only justification being they are literally all old people who don't care about their community. Seiko was founded in 1881 so pretty close, and its pretty obvious for anyone to see that Seiko has adapted MUCH better to their modern community than a company like nintendo, thats what I meant
@@TheLautor they have a new international marketing team. Well, new in the last year or so. GS is making a push to become more well known outside Japan with dedicated displays in high end watch stores, their own boutiques etc. I'd like to think this might positively affect the 2nd hand market as you currently lose a packet of yiu want to sell one on. On the plus side, choose the correct GS and you shouldn't ever want to trade it. My father still has his GS from the 60s.
Might be a stupid question so apologies in advance haha, but since it is so lightweight - do you bump into things with your watch more often because of it?
The moment I strap a watch on, my wrist starts diving for every nearby surface on its own. Love my dress watches but my daily driver has to be a bumper basically.
Just bought the green version of the GMT and believe me more and more you look at it more you fall in love with it. Worth every penny. This is my 3rd GS this year and can't wait to get more next year.
Grand Seiko is my favorite brand. The Snowflake is my Grail watch. I own the SBGN003 GMT which has the 9F Quartz movement. As a purist for mechanical watches I was a bit hesitant to get the 9F but the accuracy of that moment is amazing! +/- 10 seconds a year and I suspect they are sandbagging that number. Mine has been in perfect synchronization with an atomic clock since October 17th when I got it. I know, I’m a nerd. Lol Everyone recognizes a Rolex when they see it. And that’s a good thing, very strong brand! But... I love having something on my wrist that only people “in the know” will recognize. And those that do, know just how special GS is! 👍👍
Dial simple,marker bold ,sec hands looks very inexpensive,date window &print looks tame .Hands will not catch attention.However , movement looks pleasing but Price is bold .Not many will use a loop to see what is on the surface of hour maker.easy of history Service?
I was in a Grand Seiko boutique this WE. The Snowflake, Skyflake and the Platinum limited edition were there. I was completely stunned to see how incredible they all are. You have to see it to understand it.
For many years I was skeptical, didn't know the brand, thought it was too expensive for a watch with Seiko written on it... I had to understand what Grand Seiko is. Why some of the best IMO watch geeks on IG and the community were talking about it. I got myself the SBGJ211. Many watch brands we know have this "defect acceptance": if you look at the watch not closer than 20-30cm, then, it's acceptable to have defects (this rule is applied at VC, JLC,...). When receiving my SBGJ211, I shot the dial, hour markers with a macro like lens and it was and still is mind-blowing. The hands are superb (15-20Keur watch quality). The MEMS technology just stands out. Any other brand at that watch level simply can't compete. I could write more about it. As a conclusion, I would recommend any one to buy one. It would only be joy.
I was never a fan of white dialed watches until this Grand Seiko 'Snowflake'. The extraordinary precision of the works on this dial and how the dial literally glows in the sunlight like freshly fallen snow is hypnotizing. The genius of the Spring Drive speaks for itself. It is a lifelong keeper I need to add to my collection. Thank you Jenni for yet another great video. :)
I have the GMT SBGE255 showcased in this video. I can attest that it’s one of the most beautiful watches in my collection, honestly shadowing over my Omegas and Rolex in the quality department. The finishing on my blue GMT is a league above most luxury brands.
I got an SBGA413, a Seasons Collection Spring, a few months ago, and instantly became a Grand Seiko fanboy (and I'm not the fanboy type). One thing that's not clear from pictures or a spec sheet is just how good a daily wearer it is. It's dressy and sporty, so really versatile. And it's robust, particularly the Spring Drive. I'm less worried about banging it around than a regular mechanical watch. For all it's fancy looks, it it has 100 meters water resistance and a screw down crown. The titanium is more scratch resistant than steel. And my Spring Drive gains less than a second a month. Grand Seiko absolutely more than holds its own against other watches at its price and higher.
Spring drive movement just combined the quartz and mechanical movement by removing the worst disadvantage from both of them, and making a legendary innovation in watch industry which Swiss brands failed even after trying for years. When they asked its licence from Seiko said "No" with its own Swag.
I've been lusting after the Snowflake for a couple years, finally I own one and its possibly the favorite in my collection. They are stunning, but so very light weight.
@@willielarsson9651 it's funny, though...even though my "price range" runs to a Seiko 5, I recognize the innovation and quality, and the "human touch" in GS....
Seeing my first Grand Seiko dial and learning about the spring drive changed my relationship to watchmaking. That’s when I went from TH-cam dabbling viewer to someone who needed to own a mechanical watch. Shortly after seeing Teddy’s video about the spring drive I bought my first hi beat vintage Seiko! The pinky cherry blossom dial is a dream, and owning a hi beat watch from the KS factory felt like my first step on a long journey towards a GS. Thanks for sharing Jenni!
GS is generally recognized as one of the best values in the watch world. Yes, their prices put them out of reach for many, but for that price, you’re getting a level of quality and hand finishing second to none. The SGBA211, the “Snowflake,” named that by Grand Seiko, by the way, is absolutely stunning. It’s as beautiful in real life as it is in fan vids.
I’d love to own a GS but darn they are now so expensive. I wanted to get another Speedmaster after my first broke years ago. It becomes a hard decision to buy that Speedmaster again or just get the GS. I’d love to have both… arghh!
I just bought the Grand Seiko SBGA211 snowflake. All the hype still does not do it justice once you see it in person. It's astonishingly well made and perfectly executed for the price. The faceted polishing on the hands and hour markers are a different level - it'll blind you in the sun 😁. And the dial communicates the tranquility and perception of japanese culture in a 41mm tapestry. Grand Seiko is really a watch lovers dream. Only downside for me is I would have appreciated micro adjust options on the bracelet.
Same here! just had it for a few days and couldn't be happier. your AD should be able to size the bracelet with half links to get a better fit. I like it better on straps though. such an amazing watch. wear it in good health!
I wish they would offer a model range between the normal Seiko and Grand Seiko. There is the new King Seiko, maybe that will develop into that, so far it isnt. I would like a watch that has the Spring Drive with less visual craftmanship, and is a little cheaper as a trade off. They could decrease the price further by offering different bracelet choices, i.e a version where there is none and you just buy your own. I think there is an enthusiast group that would buy into Seiko if they offered a spring drive at the 2-3K range, preferably not only 39mm upwards. Why not an Explorer alternative at 36mm with a spring drive and clean black or white snowflake dial for 2,5K. That way they wouldnt be cannabilizing the bigger GS and perhaps add new customers who arent willing to pay 6K and up for a Seiko.
Thanks for highlighting Grand Seiko, Jenni! A brand that still needs much more attention imho. Therefore I'm glad to see it on a channel which provides one of the best macro shots out there! GS is a double-edged sword. I loved the brand since I recognized how high the level of craftmanship is. But I never really found one that speaked to me 100%. I went back and forth and also looked at some limited editions like the extremely beautiful SBGH267. But every watch had something I didn't really like. Too big cases, closed casebacks, printing on the back crystal (come on, really, GS?!) and so on. In the end I ended up with the classic SBG211, the Snowflake! This was obviously one of the first GS I ever noticed but I wanted something more special in the beginning. In the end I realized that the watch itself IS truly something special as it gives me everything I like. So I bought it and was over the moon with it! After some weeks / months I did put it away and had just other watches on my wrist. I kind of forgot a little about it and even thought about if I should really keep it. Then I got it back on my wrist and did just again truly realize HOW beautiful and awesome this piece is! That was around a year ago and this was the time I decided to definitely keep this piece! Much love for GS! But you really need to take the time to suck it all up and appreciate the brand and their products. They're truly something special! Last but not least: Their prices are definitely justified. I mean, here in Germany you can get a GS Snowflake for around the same price like a plain and simple Oyster Perpetual which is Rolex' entry level piece. And even though I love Rolex and especially their simple OP's I do think that a GS is of much higher quality - not even talking about the details.
Thank you for that in depth look into Grand Seiko. Great macro shots, detailing what makes Grand Seiko stand out! In my opinion with that cutting edge technology and attention to detail the price tag on Grand Seiko is more than justified. And I like the fact that these are somehow under the radar watches.
The Rolex sessions bring viewers and subscribers. It's all about our personal preferences. Jenni is likeable and a nice watch storyteller but far from a freestanding one.
Most watch channels are all Rolex cheerleaders. It brings them views and most watch channel hosts are newbies in the watch game. Hence their love of Rolex. Only one that I know of Artwatchsci is a true seasoned watch owner. Once you been in the game for awhile you realize Rolex is just another mass produced watch. You move on to VC, IWC, GS, etc. I still keep my Explorer though.
@@chelious1973 even seasoned watch owners love their Rolex, regardless of what other brands exists. Rolex has always appealed to people who seek adoration from both objects and others. While a guy like you might be more interested in traits like rarity, craftsmanship, and overall delivery... a Rolex owner is most likely interested in turning heads or feeling like a boss. There’s a reason why a rapper with lots of expendable income will go for a Rolex, even if they can afford watches 2-3x in value. That’s why I don’t think it’s accurate to call Rolex lovers noobies of the watch industry. That brand attracts many different demographics to watches than your normal brand would. Fills a unique role, and fills it pretty well. Their sales are a testament to that too.
Grand Seiko has always been one of my favorite watch brands - and I'm wearing the SBGE255 actually on my wrist as I type this. The heritage of the brand is actually super fascinating and goes back to the roots of why they started up in the first place - basically to be the best at producing timepiece accuracy and quality. Even back in the late 60s they made mechanical watches so accurate that the Swiss literally cancelled their chronometer trials when they took 4th thru 10th place - with 1st thru 3rd places taken up only by quartz movements. Imagine having an Olympic athlete dominate a contest so much that they cancelled the contest. The unfortunate thing is that this history isn't passed down or categorized in to the standard perception of what "Seiko" means to the average consumer. But, when you DO know about who they are and what the GS brand carries and you make these connections with other watch enthusiast s, it is THE most satisfying thing you can get as a watch lover!
Good comment! 👍🏻 The SBGE255 is a watch that I really like but am concerned with the 14.7mm thickness. I was therefore just wondering how you’re getting on with it?
@@thumphreys1980 It wears a little thicker than, say, a BB58, but its specs on paper are a bit deceiving. I actually took pics to compare the on-the-wrist between this an a standard Oris Aquis (12.5mm vs. 14.7mm). The GS sits down into the wirst and the zaratsu polish also does a look to make it appear thinner. comparison pics: photos.app.goo.gl/6c9Y1jMdPzeq4A1X9
Between its austere simplicity, the timeless design, and the perfection of the execution, the "snowflake" has to be one of the most beautiful watches of all time... And its powered by a true engineering marvel. Of course I'd love one!
In my opinion, Seiko and Grand Seiko are completely separate brands like Tudor and Rolex. Under the same umbrella, yes, but both deserve individual recognition. OMG Thanks for the like Jenni! I also appreciate all the likes and comments!
The distance between Seiko and Grand Seiko is much greater than that between Tudor and Rolex. Seiko is a mass market brand, even if they do make some more pricey products. Tudor is a luxury brand even if they do not reach the same level of luxury as their big brother.
Despite being completely separate brands now some of the models in Seiko and Grand Seiko lineup have confusingly similar style. For example the Seiko SARX055 and the Snowflake. The later is obviously a significant upgrade but they share the same styling DNA which feels too close for two completely separate brands IMHO.
@@jimlittle5769 then you obviously don't know much about Seiko. Seiko has also used the Spring drive movement in their watches, they make their own GMT version of this grand seiko, and at a slightly lower price too. Their higher end movements are also amazing. Just because Seiko makes many, and many watch under 500 dollars, you think Seiko isn't capable of making luxury watches? Some persage or Sarx models are just as stunning as a grand seiko. Their marinemasters or 1000+dollar watches are also amazing. Seiko and Grand Seiko are much closer than you would think, it was only a few years ago when they moved GS to its own company, but only as a way to try and make it more separate, because they would put Seiko above the GS branding.
I've owned an SBGA127 for about 6 years, and this thing still reliably gains about three seconds. Per month. It is a beautiful, understated watch that goes about its business with little fanfare. Unbelievable quality and attention to detail.
I have had my heart set on one of these for a number of years now and its nice to see other people getting onboard with their understated elegance and simplicity/purity of design.
@@ivanlagrossemoule it is the best mechanical movement ever made. That is a fact. Objectively better watches than anything Rolex throw out their factory door.
just bought the SBGE255 for my first year wedding anniversary. I love the blue 🥰 Just wished the dial had more texture like the heritage pieces, but I wanted a sports watch 😜
You did a really great job summarizing what makes Grand Seiko so special. I picked up a Skyflake this year and it’s become my go-to weekend watch over my Swiss watches. Contemplating my next GS. I also think they are great value.
Just purchased a GS SBGA413 Spring model and I'm very happy with it. The inhouse craftsmanship and attention to detail are superb. The spring drive mesmerizes you as the second hand appears to flow with time.
For me Grand Seiko has in recent years been innovating often with improvements to their movements whereas other brands like e.g. Rolex have incremental, superficial "updates" (the bezel is a different color) took but will cost 2-4x more for a lower level of finishing 🤷♂️
I own GS , do not own a Rolex yet , but you cannot say Rolex is not innovative. Both brands have many innovations contributing to the styles / function and design language of other brands
@@hammalamiri12 what is the last innovation by Rolex? The skydweller? An annual calendar wich is a complication 100+ years old? Rolex has been innovative, yes, they even used to be a really great brand of rugged tool watches but that was back in the 60's.
@@dommerdom I think refinement was never a goal for Mr Wildorf, Rolex where designed to be rugged, durable tools. Their marketing has transformed it into vulgar display of wealth, wich I consider very disrepectfull of the original spirit of the brand. So... no, not understated in my view, at all.
Its also great that their website has a huge amount of material on each watch. From the watch to the detailied history of each watch's movement on its page they aren't afraid to talk about everything in the watch and they sem to be proud of it.
Never thought I would buy a quartz watch for over 3.000 (dollars) but 6 months later I am still in love with my Grand Seiko. As Jenni mentions, the more you understand about the craftmanship and the devotion these watches are made of the more you appreciate them. This is not "just" a quartz watch, it is a Grand Seiko high performance quartz crafted by hand. My watch has gained 2 seconds in 6 months, the second hand hits the indexes perfectly. This watch does not really need luminous hands (and it doesn´t) because of the immaculate finish of the hands that always catches the light and stands out from the deep black face of the watch. Servicing every 50 years speaks for itself...
I have flat small wrists at 16.5cm and I just got a snowflake. I'm very happy at how well it fits and hugs the wrist with the downward lugs. definitely wears smaller than it might seem on paper
I got one yesterday, before watching this video today. A spring drive has been on my wish list for a very long time. GS are fine timepieces and so well crafted. I'm happy you like them too!
I live in Switzerland and i am wearing a Skyflake. the passion that went into this watch, the quality of the finish is just incredible i surprise myself staring at it for long seconds every now and then...
I just ordered the SBGJ237 GMT Grand Seiko. Was looking to get a Pepsi. The hand finishing, craftsmanship, attention to the finest detail, and 36,000vph movement made it a no brainer. Better watch IMO. That is not a knock on the Rolex, but a compliment to the GS. Plus, I like the fact that just everyone will not know what it is with the exception of people like us who watch these videos. Glad to see you paying respect to GS.
This is just what I needed to clear my doubts about Grand Seiko. For me personally, I'd go with the GMT as the casual daily driver and the Snowflake is the perfect fit for formal wear. Thanks for these videos!
Yeah. The only watchmaker tops GS level of quality is A. Lange Sohne IMO. but then again, ALS cost ten to hundred times or even more compared to grand seiko.
@@emporytechnology1502 I love my GS SBGE255 but this is hyperbole. GS dial finishing is superb, bracelets' not bad and clasp is just OK but when you look to the movement Vacheron, Patek etc. are far superior. Lange is way ahead of GS. Credor would be a better comparison to those. For the price though GS is killing it.
@@davy3130 movement polish yes, but then again you should factor the price. And dont forget grand seiko has spring drive, miles better than traditional movement of other brand, not even ALS par in term of movement
I have been aiming for the GS Snowflake for the longest of time, slowly but surely. Absolutely captivated by it, doesn't matter if its the older model to the current one. Absolutely stunning quality, craftmanship, precision, the spring drive....what more can I say. Wallet size still denying my eventually purchase.
@@reezevlog agreed.. though the Seiko Astron GPS quartz takes it to another level.. accurate to 1 second every 100,000 years.. but that's kinda cheating
if "you want to impress others...buy a rolex"... if you want to impress the others more, add a grand seiko to your collection and wear it ever other days when you don't wear a rolex.
Nice explained!! I got myself a GS two years ago, the best think about it is just looking at it, plus the fact that here in Europe it still goes "under the radar" in most ocasions. It's a selfish feeling that I'm t'he only one enjoying this watch, and it isn't flashy, plus it's a conversation starter when I encounter some other watch aficionado.
Nobody cares what kind of watch you wear, apart from watch enthusiasts. Which are the very small minority. If you want to impress others you buy a rolex or a royal oak. If you want the best watch possible, you buy Japanese or German watches.
@@erebusbueno I know someone who had that exact watch you have. Incredible the different color tones you get with different lighting, and that champagne dial is said to be the most difficult to make by Grand Seiko and even so more difficult to produce than the Snowflake dial.
I really do. Her English is great and her appearance in this fully male dominated watch business is really refreshing. Unfortunately she is not an independent watch reviewer.
As a retired foreign language teacher, I do. She has an excellent command of English colloquial expressions. Any grammatical errors she makes are not those of a foreign speaker, but rather what you commonly hear from native speakers. That tells me that she learned English mostly by interacting with native speakers, and not in a classroom.
@@gilbertoflores7397 They are actually wannabe snobs, LOL. Most of them are just plain ignorant; before they even got into watches, Rolex was the only high quality brand they knew of, and it carried over.
It's Grand Seiko, the company that beat the Swiss at their own game. It's really hard to get a better watch, especially in their respective price brackets. Only criticism I have of the brand is the weird lack of a cohesive brand identity. You have iconic watches like the Snowflake right next to some weird post-modern Submariner homage.
These are all amazing but I believe the GMT would be my pick of the 3 followed by the snowflake! Awesome video as always and looking forward to the other grand Seiko videos u have planned! 👌
Personally, GS is one of the best brands out there period. Forget bang for buck (even though its the best on the market); their finishing, attention to detail, and accuracy speak for themselves. I can't think of a better $4500-$6500 to spend on a watch. Let's be real, their top end pieces rival the quality and accuracy or any swiss pieces too, people just don't ascribe as much prestige to Japanese craftsmanship!
If I were given a Rolex, I would immediately sell it and get a Grand Seiko instead. The innovation, style and craftsmanship are top notch. Stunningly beautiful.
I have 2 Rolexes and the Snowflake is probably my favorite watch. You have to look at the watch dial through a jeweler's loupe to see just how great GS is.
That spring drive is ridiculous, i love how the seconds hand move on it. Also to me, seeing the small details all around the watch how perfect they are. Plus that spring drive how beautiful or hypnotic how that seconds hand moves, i'd they're worth the price tag. I love the craftsmanship and design,
Great video. I would go for the 60th Anniversary. It has a brand new movement and most important a totally new concept for the escapement, The Dual Impulse. Literally unique.
The spring drive second hand is poetry in motion - almost supernatural. I wish the beat rate of many mechanical movements was not reduced to achieve greater power reserve. To me a smoother sweeping second hand is more important.
I'm the lucky owner of a SBGA413, Spring Drive, Titanium watch called Cherry Blossom. I don't have the adequate words to describe what it is to see the elegance of the traditional handcrafted parts and the efficiency of the technology used to create this time piece.
The Swiss gov't cancelled the annual Chronometer-time-trials in 1963 and the Concours de Geneve in 1968 after Grand Seiko started winning them. That pretty much tells you all you need to know about the Swiss...
this disgrace to engineering, now I won't overvalue swiss made
But Japanese came with their winning mechanism, as a gift to Swiss watchmakers, saying "they are here to make progress, not to prove they're better". Japanese watchmakers are very very accurate. To them everything is about respect, honor and honesty. The new 36000 beat spring drive mechanism, is a work of art, to me...out of this world...
Mike Langelo 36000 high beat and Spring Drive are completely separate movements. 36000 has 36000 bph, spring drive literally has 0 beats. Seconds hand is a perfectly smooth sweep
@Ant Bo it doesn't say anything about the swiss, it does say that those watchmakers and institutions involved in the trials and concourse competitions did not like being beaten at their own game, "it's my ball and you're not playing" springs to mind
Yea GS chronometers higher accuracy than Swiss models
And the most important detail that Jenni did not mention is that Grand Seiko watches are AVAILABLE to wear!
she hated it
@cj me too! I enjoy wearing all of these brands.
She would rather have root-canal......
Not anymore.
It's insane how clean these look under the macro. Absolutely stunning attention to detail.
Hey, my good sir, I love your channel.
Oh yeah? Check out that lumpy speck on the dial of the GMT (under the "i" of Seiko). You can see it in all the shots of that part of the dial, but seeing the hand pass over it @7:13 confirms it's actually ON the dial. GS's quality control is moving toward Seiko-level QC
@Leopard Boas hahaha
@Leah Do yep. I totally believe that you walked away from billions because you wanted to be happy. Instead you are posting angry rants on TH-cam
@Leah Do and what does this have to do with watches? You're like that one random football is the best sport comment found in a lot of videos. Rant somewhere else
I own a Grand Seiko Diver (Spring Drive), and I would say when someone buys a Grand Seiko, it ain't really for the sake of the branding just so that one can swag with it (unlike the other brands like Panerai or Rolex), one usually buys a Grand Seiko because they want a Grand Seiko along the extreme accuracy, and the amazing amount of under-rated craftsmanship and R&D the watch carries; not because it is a brand which you necessarily go around showing off with.
I love Grand Seiko because while they maybe under-marketed like the many Swiss brands, they are so secure and confident in the watches they make that it seems below them to bother competing with the Swiss watch brands over branding or popularity. That to me speaks volumes and a sense of maturity in terms of the company's direction. It feels like a master inventor who has nothing to prove, and strives to improve himself instead of dealing with the petty fights amongst inventors.
As a Grand Seiko owner, I also feel that I have kept myself away from brand/watch snobbishness (which tends to occur with the other more luxurious Swiss brands). Whenever I tell my friends my best watch in my collection is a Grand Seiko (while they have Rolexes, R.M. and Pateks), they tend to give me frown and even hint disapproval simply because it ain't "popular" or it ain't Swiss/European; But to me I feel that knowing what makes my Grand Seiko great just makes me smile in response instead of bothering with trying to fight back or make a case for Grand Seiko for I know the quality and stats speak for itself, and hey I am sparing myself from the endless cycle of watch Snobbishness and constant ego measuring.
One just cannot deny the fact that Grand Seiko can give many of the Swiss luxury brands a run for their money, and have to admit Grand Seiko is definitely up there with the top renown Swiss watch brands. So yes, I am a proud owner of a Grand Seiko and will always recommend and choose it over a Rolex, Omega or Patek.
P.S. I will probably give it to Rolex just for their money retention and re-sellability lol
Agree 10000%
What I like about GS is they are 100% made in Japan. Whereas, "Swiss Made" simply means the movement (51% of the watch according to Swiss law) was either "designed OR manufactured OR inspected" in Switzerland. There are several factories around Hong Kong and China that make "Swiss Made" watches from start to finish and simply print "Swiss Made" on the dial and Westerner's buy them up for thousands of dollars because "Swiss made is the best". There is zero transparency in the Swiss Watch World and it's impossible to say which watches are made in Switzerland and which are made in China. GS on the other hand... 100% Made in Japan.
Indeed. Alot of the luxury Swiss watch brands these days are very 'cloak and dagger' more than they used to back in the day. Just look at Rolex with the suposed "Rolex Drought" where the apparent lack of Rolex watches in the market is due to demand and the factory being unable to meet it. Personally I find that questionable and its just strange Rolex can't or refuse to givea hard answer as to why it is happening. Personally i feel it is just their desire to rack up demand by limiting accessibility and then having that as a reason to jack up the prices.
keep cheering yourself, AP, patek, etc are laughing at you
@@Oppps88 yup you dont know em coz you are a seiko/casio boy LOL. work harder so you can know them...i mean work hard till your hair turns grey
Got my snowflake a few weeks ago. I originally wanted my first rolex and got so angry with the prospect of having to work to give someone my money I quickly started to look elsewhere. I also decided that I enjoyed the idea of a more understated 'stealth wealth' approach and love the fact most people arent familiar with GS. The company were the best I have ever dealt with making purchase and bracelet resizing during the pandemic a breeze. The watch is beautiful and I spend far more time than I should staring at the dial. Definitely a GS convert and really happy with the watch.
My wife surprised me with the Snowflake for my 50th. GS is a stunning brand.
Lucky you!!
She definitely loves you
You're lucky and she loves you. Also, she sent a message of how much "love" you would give in return when it's her turn. :)
Or she has a very guilty conscience........
She either did something bad or loves you to death. Either way you win
Been blessed to currently own a SS Rolex daytona, an Omega seamaster, a Grand Lange, an AP royal oak.. then bought 5 GS in a row(was only intending to buy 1)... currently own all 9 watches.. and a GS is on my wrist 95% of the time... the experience they illicit is incredible.. and knowing it was hand finished and assembled makes it even more special... the bang for buck is on another level
Agree. Same story here....
I'm waiting for Seiko to put a bracelet/clasp that's better than what you find on their $500 watches before I consider a GS. The bracelets on these watches really are a joke at this price point.
@@Brian-ee1gx This was my hesitation when I first went to the AD to try them on for the first time based on all the negative comments I had read online... Once I tried them on I really couldn't understand all the negative comments...they were extremely comfortable on my wrist and if I were blindfolded I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the bracelet on my sbgh269 vs the oyster bracelet on my 116520... like I said I ended up buying 5 pieces in the span of 8 months... to each his own
Yeah. Once you owned a GS, there is no reason to buy another watch.
@@Brian-ee1gx I agree with you on the clasp - no micro adjustment, that really should be improved. he clasp could definitively be improved. However, I would not let that hinder you in enjoying a GS. They are still amazing pieces.
I don't understand why GS has to prove its value again and again. They produce simply some of the best watches on the planet with an incredible attention to detail. I own a Sea Dweller (which I don't wear) and a Datejust and both of them do not come close in terms of aesthetics - okay probably the Datejust does. But compared to most of the GS collection the details of the Rolex look somewhat old-fashioned. So, would I go for Grand Seiko? Yes, definitely. The more often I see them the more I fall in love!
The only issue is if you ever try to sell one. You lose a lot of money. I did. I know you should only ever buy a watch you want to keep forever but life doesn't always work like that.
It's because Rolex showed the entire industry that you don't need consistent innovation to win the market, all you need is a airtight control on supply and demand coupled with some of the slickest marketing history has ever seen - anyone buying Rolex for the horological value is saying it to humble brag, it's all about investing and having that five-pointed crown - you could argue that without them the luxury watch industry would not be what it is now, but the consequences of that is that no other brand will ever come close in recognition in the world
@@theonlyredspecial. That's why you don't buy new. Used or Grey market only. If you do that you should lose nothing, or even turn a profit if you are savvy. GS quality puts Rolex to shame. My GS SBGR 309 is a step above in finishing to my Explorer 214270.
@@theonlyredspecial I wouldn't mind keeping it forever. I never sold one of my watches. 😁
The difference between GS and Rolex is this: Rolex got your money, twice! GS has not. Actions speak louder than words.
I think the Grand Seikos are beautiful pieces of art. Personally, I would prefer a GS over a Rolex. Great video! Thanks
I have a Rolex and a Seiko Ananta Spring Drive (same movement as the GS). I prefer the Seiko as it's more accurate.
Rolex is an overrated mass product. But fanboys don't want to hear that. For the price you get two Omegas or three Grand Seikos which are at least as same as good if not even superior.
@@Nikioko The finish on the Rolex is excellent, however I wear my watches so the finish does not survive daily wear and tear anyway. The main issue is that they just don't seem to keep time as well and require more frequent tuning than the GS movements.
@@kickinthegob I didn't say that Rolex watches are bad. But just not as good as to justify those prices. But that's due to artificial shortage. If it comes to value (quality per price), there are better watches.
@@Nikioko I agree. I have a Panerai and they are more unique and a better investment in my opinion.
From technical point of view GS's Spring Drive destroys everything from Switzerland. I absolutely love how the second hand glides across the dial.
Well from a purist point of view, it’s not a fully mechanical piece so it doesn’t matter how good it is as many see it as a hybrid of some sort and not a true mechanical movement.
@@Odat it literally is a self contained mechanical piece
@@Odat Always seems like a ridiculous argument to me, from someone on the outside looking in. It's not a mechanical movement because it mechanically creates an electrical charge seems to be the purist argument correct? Despite the fact the electricity is produced from a mechanical process only.
@@Odat its still a mechanical that creates electical energy instead of purely mechanical.
Everything expensive I have ever paid for that comes from Japan, is astoundingly good. Even the Honda snowblowers that I have owned are thoughtfully crafted works of art, that make sense, and work dependably.
Hogwash. Sounds you stereotyping.
@@christophersmith49 Are you sniffing glue? Honda manufactures very good machinery.
I was purchasing my Speed master at the Omega premier store in Hawaii a few years back. The sales manager asked if I was familiar with Grand Seiko. She has been with omega for over 15 yrs and she admits GS is her favorite and how GS always steals the show at the world watch conversations. I now own two spring drive GS and truly convinced no other watch maker in the world comes close!
there is another .... *THE CITIZEN*
@@Cortesevasive as true as that is with the Caliber 0200, nobody really associates Citizen to luxury these days, which is a shame since it's just as accurate as the Superlative and Coaxial Chronometer.
@@StrikeWarlock Nobody* in the western market. The citizen is for domestic japanese market.
Also mechanical versions are pointless anyway
I purchased the Grand Seiko GMT Spring Drive SBGE201 to commemorate passing my advanced medical boards, and I absolutely love it! I chose it over the Rolex GMT because of the amazing technology in the Spring Drive (the smooth movement of the second hand is mesmerizing!). Also, everyone has a Rolex. The Grand Seiko name might not have the same cache as Rolex, but it is still a beautifully made watch, and true lovers of horology appreciate its precision. I can't wait to purchase another GS for the next milestone in life 🙂
Hey Ace..GS is Straigth Quality..that gmt looks more sporty than anything rolex has thrown out there..i dont care what ppl say about rolox..GS is a hardass watch that last a lifetime
Wow, that model looks gorgeous.
I personally own two GS's. I have been collecting watches for year and years. I believe they are some of the finest watches on the market today. Worth every penny.....
I cant believe grand seiko sent you the watches for the review, speaks a lot about an old company when they can adapt to the new watch enthusiast’s enviornments. Just makes me love them even more
@@vianouche1 just like I said, what is surprising is how well and old company like seiko embraced the new times. I dont see companies like omega sending out watches for reviews do you?
@@vianouche1 lets take for example nintendo, it was founded in 1889 that's pretty much as old as a brand can get, and if you haven't heard, recently they've been doing some very poor management decisions with the only justification being they are literally all old people who don't care about their community. Seiko was founded in 1881 so pretty close, and its pretty obvious for anyone to see that Seiko has adapted MUCH better to their modern community than a company like nintendo, thats what I meant
@@vianouche1 sorry? you said you didn't understand so I explained why so rude
@@TheLautor they have a new international marketing team. Well, new in the last year or so. GS is making a push to become more well known outside Japan with dedicated displays in high end watch stores, their own boutiques etc. I'd like to think this might positively affect the 2nd hand market as you currently lose a packet of yiu want to sell one on. On the plus side, choose the correct GS and you shouldn't ever want to trade it. My father still has his GS from the 60s.
@@sdemosi yeah you can tell, thanks for the info, I'm nowhere close to purchasing one myself but I really hope I make it some day
he way the second hand just smoothly glides across the dial is absolutely mesmerising
I was lucky enough to get a snowflake a couple of years ago and I absolutely love this watch!
Might be a stupid question so apologies in advance haha, but since it is so lightweight - do you bump into things with your watch more often because of it?
I love mine! No more likely to bump than my steel watches.
@@JenniElle it's not that different to wearing a steel watch on a strap for the first time. After a while you just get used to it. Ps. Great content!
@@JenniElle Of course! I mostly forget that I'm wearing it throughout the day. The light weight is somewhat a double edged sword.
The moment I strap a watch on, my wrist starts diving for every nearby surface on its own. Love my dress watches but my daily driver has to be a bumper basically.
Just bought the green version of the GMT and believe me more and more you look at it more you fall in love with it. Worth every penny. This is my 3rd GS this year and can't wait to get more next year.
The sweeping motion of seconds hand will be a constant reminder that life passes by fast.
*looks at watch* *existential crisis*
*admires spring drive* *shot of dopamine*
A watchmaker of GS described it as a perfect analogy for the flow of time and I could not agree more.
Ehhh s’pretentious
Life moves pretty fast if you don’t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. - Ferris Bueller
That’s why you should blow all your money on watches at every opportunity. Dont let life pass you by
Grand Seiko is my favorite brand. The Snowflake is my Grail watch. I own the SBGN003 GMT which has the 9F Quartz movement. As a purist for mechanical watches I was a bit hesitant to get the 9F but the accuracy of that moment is amazing! +/- 10 seconds a year and I suspect they are sandbagging that number. Mine has been in perfect synchronization with an atomic clock since October 17th when I got it. I know, I’m a nerd. Lol Everyone recognizes a Rolex when they see it. And that’s a good thing, very strong brand! But... I love having something on my wrist that only people “in the know” will recognize. And those that do, know just how special GS is! 👍👍
I wear the sbgn007, but looking for a 003. Its lame their newer models have a ceramic colored dial. The silver was nice.
I was like "how could they miss those specs of dust?!?!" and then wiped my screen hahaha
Lol
lol, I did the same thing. Your name (NYC LP Player) makes you a God in my eyes.
Haha, good one.
Dial simple,marker bold ,sec hands looks very inexpensive,date window &print looks tame .Hands will not catch attention.However , movement looks pleasing but Price is bold .Not many will use a loop to see what is on the surface of hour maker.easy of history Service?
Haha
I was in a Grand Seiko boutique this WE. The Snowflake, Skyflake and the Platinum limited edition were there. I was completely stunned to see how incredible they all are. You have to see it to understand it.
Snowflake's a staggeringly beautiful watch indeed and the spring drive is jaw-dropping movement.
Seems to be the most popular model for a reason. HVent seen one in person but I’d love to add a white watch to my collection
My god those hour markers look like digital renderings
Agreed. They look flawless.
For many years I was skeptical, didn't know the brand, thought it was too expensive for a watch with Seiko written on it... I had to understand what Grand Seiko is. Why some of the best IMO watch geeks on IG and the community were talking about it.
I got myself the SBGJ211.
Many watch brands we know have this "defect acceptance": if you look at the watch not closer than 20-30cm, then, it's acceptable to have defects (this rule is applied at VC, JLC,...).
When receiving my SBGJ211, I shot the dial, hour markers with a macro like lens and it was and still is mind-blowing. The hands are superb (15-20Keur watch quality).
The MEMS technology just stands out. Any other brand at that watch level simply can't compete.
I could write more about it. As a conclusion, I would recommend any one to buy one. It would only be joy.
I think the GS movements are also hands down the best and almost fall short to the finishing but they are accurate and durable.
Puts AP to shame.
Hey JSL, you watch this channel as well!
I was never a fan of white dialed watches until this Grand Seiko 'Snowflake'. The extraordinary precision of the works on this dial and how the dial literally glows in the sunlight like freshly fallen snow is hypnotizing. The genius of the Spring Drive speaks for itself. It is a lifelong keeper I need to add to my collection. Thank you Jenni for yet another great video. :)
OMG that’s the smoothest seconds hand movement I have EVER seen on any watch 😍😍😍
I've always wanted a Grand Seiko and I think I may have found the one i want. That blue GMT is beautiful.
Look at the peacock
Yes, indeed. I, too, was taken with the beauty of the GS GMT.
I have the GMT SBGE255 showcased in this video. I can attest that it’s one of the most beautiful watches in my collection, honestly shadowing over my Omegas and Rolex in the quality department. The finishing on my blue GMT is a league above most luxury brands.
I got an SBGA413, a Seasons Collection Spring, a few months ago, and instantly became a Grand Seiko fanboy (and I'm not the fanboy type). One thing that's not clear from pictures or a spec sheet is just how good a daily wearer it is. It's dressy and sporty, so really versatile. And it's robust, particularly the Spring Drive. I'm less worried about banging it around than a regular mechanical watch. For all it's fancy looks, it it has 100 meters water resistance and a screw down crown. The titanium is more scratch resistant than steel. And my Spring Drive gains less than a second a month. Grand Seiko absolutely more than holds its own against other watches at its price and higher.
Spring drive movement just combined the quartz and mechanical movement by removing the worst disadvantage from both of them, and making a legendary innovation in watch industry which Swiss brands failed even after trying for years.
When they asked its licence from Seiko said "No" with its own Swag.
I definitely would go for something like the Snowflake with Spring Drive!
Love mine!
@@anacquiredtaste3582 I believe that! It's a stunning piece.
Too light for me, I need substance but yes it’s beautiful.
Just got mine Wednesday. Awesome! So much detail. Literally breathtaking when seeing the dial in person.
Der Meinung schließe ich mich an!
I've been lusting after the Snowflake for a couple years, finally I own one and its possibly the favorite in my collection. They are stunning, but so very light weight.
the GMT Grand Seiko is a beauty, coupled with accuracy and permanence.
Seiko are definitely my favourite watch maker. Everything from $200 automatics right through to genuine grail pieces
Thats one of their flaws i believe, trying to be everything to everyone
@@willielarsson9651 it's funny, though...even though my "price range" runs to a Seiko 5, I recognize the innovation and quality, and the "human touch" in GS....
Well said. One of my fav watches is my alpinist I paid 400 bucks for. I got married in mine ! Would love to own a grand seiko one day
Seeing my first Grand Seiko dial and learning about the spring drive changed my relationship to watchmaking. That’s when I went from TH-cam dabbling viewer to someone who needed to own a mechanical watch. Shortly after seeing Teddy’s video about the spring drive I bought my first hi beat vintage Seiko! The pinky cherry blossom dial is a dream, and owning a hi beat watch from the KS factory felt like my first step on a long journey towards a GS. Thanks for sharing Jenni!
Oh golly the pink cherry blossom dial. I’ll nab one some day!
GS is generally recognized as one of the best values in the watch world. Yes, their prices put them out of reach for many, but for that price, you’re getting a level of quality and hand finishing second to none. The SGBA211, the “Snowflake,” named that by Grand Seiko, by the way, is absolutely stunning. It’s as beautiful in real life as it is in fan vids.
I’d love to own a GS but darn they are now so expensive. I wanted to get another Speedmaster after my first broke years ago. It becomes a hard decision to buy that Speedmaster again or just get the GS. I’d love to have both… arghh!
I would love to see the difference in cost of materials and labor for these vs the nicest Seiko selling for much less...bet that would be eye opening.
I just bought the Grand Seiko SBGA211 snowflake. All the hype still does not do it justice once you see it in person. It's astonishingly well made and perfectly executed for the price. The faceted polishing on the hands and hour markers are a different level - it'll blind you in the sun 😁. And the dial communicates the tranquility and perception of japanese culture in a 41mm tapestry. Grand Seiko is really a watch lovers dream. Only downside for me is I would have appreciated micro adjust options on the bracelet.
Same here! just had it for a few days and couldn't be happier. your AD should be able to size the bracelet with half links to get a better fit. I like it better on straps though. such an amazing watch. wear it in good health!
I wish they would offer a model range between the normal Seiko and Grand Seiko. There is the new King Seiko, maybe that will develop into that, so far it isnt. I would like a watch that has the Spring Drive with less visual craftmanship, and is a little cheaper as a trade off. They could decrease the price further by offering different bracelet choices, i.e a version where there is none and you just buy your own. I think there is an enthusiast group that would buy into Seiko if they offered a spring drive at the 2-3K range, preferably not only 39mm upwards. Why not an Explorer alternative at 36mm with a spring drive and clean black or white snowflake dial for 2,5K. That way they wouldnt be cannabilizing the bigger GS and perhaps add new customers who arent willing to pay 6K and up for a Seiko.
Thanks for highlighting Grand Seiko, Jenni! A brand that still needs much more attention imho. Therefore I'm glad to see it on a channel which provides one of the best macro shots out there!
GS is a double-edged sword. I loved the brand since I recognized how high the level of craftmanship is. But I never really found one that speaked to me 100%. I went back and forth and also looked at some limited editions like the extremely beautiful SBGH267. But every watch had something I didn't really like. Too big cases, closed casebacks, printing on the back crystal (come on, really, GS?!) and so on. In the end I ended up with the classic SBG211, the Snowflake! This was obviously one of the first GS I ever noticed but I wanted something more special in the beginning. In the end I realized that the watch itself IS truly something special as it gives me everything I like. So I bought it and was over the moon with it!
After some weeks / months I did put it away and had just other watches on my wrist. I kind of forgot a little about it and even thought about if I should really keep it. Then I got it back on my wrist and did just again truly realize HOW beautiful and awesome this piece is! That was around a year ago and this was the time I decided to definitely keep this piece!
Much love for GS! But you really need to take the time to suck it all up and appreciate the brand and their products. They're truly something special!
Last but not least: Their prices are definitely justified. I mean, here in Germany you can get a GS Snowflake for around the same price like a plain and simple Oyster Perpetual which is Rolex' entry level piece. And even though I love Rolex and especially their simple OP's I do think that a GS is of much higher quality - not even talking about the details.
Thank you for that in depth look into Grand Seiko. Great macro shots, detailing what makes Grand Seiko stand out! In my opinion with that cutting edge technology and attention to detail the price tag on Grand Seiko is more than justified. And I like the fact that these are somehow under the radar watches.
Excellent value for money.
Finally, not a Rolex video. This channel definitely needs to branch out a bit.
The Rolex sessions bring viewers and subscribers. It's all about our personal preferences. Jenni is likeable and a nice watch storyteller but far from a freestanding one.
Jenni does a great job on watches.
I find her super annoying for some reason
Most watch channels are all Rolex cheerleaders. It brings them views and most watch channel hosts are newbies in the watch game. Hence their love of Rolex. Only one that I know of Artwatchsci is a true seasoned watch owner. Once you been in the game for awhile you realize Rolex is just another mass produced watch. You move on to VC, IWC, GS, etc. I still keep my Explorer though.
@@chelious1973 even seasoned watch owners love their Rolex, regardless of what other brands exists. Rolex has always appealed to people who seek adoration from both objects and others. While a guy like you might be more interested in traits like rarity, craftsmanship, and overall delivery... a Rolex owner is most likely interested in turning heads or feeling like a boss. There’s a reason why a rapper with lots of expendable income will go for a Rolex, even if they can afford watches 2-3x in value. That’s why I don’t think it’s accurate to call Rolex lovers noobies of the watch industry. That brand attracts many different demographics to watches than your normal brand would. Fills a unique role, and fills it pretty well. Their sales are a testament to that too.
Grand Seiko has always been one of my favorite watch brands - and I'm wearing the SBGE255 actually on my wrist as I type this. The heritage of the brand is actually super fascinating and goes back to the roots of why they started up in the first place - basically to be the best at producing timepiece accuracy and quality. Even back in the late 60s they made mechanical watches so accurate that the Swiss literally cancelled their chronometer trials when they took 4th thru 10th place - with 1st thru 3rd places taken up only by quartz movements.
Imagine having an Olympic athlete dominate a contest so much that they cancelled the contest. The unfortunate thing is that this history isn't passed down or categorized in to the standard perception of what "Seiko" means to the average consumer. But, when you DO know about who they are and what the GS brand carries and you make these connections with other watch enthusiast s, it is THE most satisfying thing you can get as a watch lover!
Nice analogy with the Olympic athlete. Very well put!
Good comment! 👍🏻 The SBGE255 is a watch that I really like but am concerned with the 14.7mm thickness. I was therefore just wondering how you’re getting on with it?
@@thumphreys1980 It wears a little thicker than, say, a BB58, but its specs on paper are a bit deceiving. I actually took pics to compare the on-the-wrist between this an a standard Oris Aquis (12.5mm vs. 14.7mm). The GS sits down into the wirst and the zaratsu polish also does a look to make it appear thinner.
comparison pics: photos.app.goo.gl/6c9Y1jMdPzeq4A1X9
Between its austere simplicity, the timeless design, and the perfection of the execution, the "snowflake" has to be one of the most beautiful watches of all time...
And its powered by a true engineering marvel. Of course I'd love one!
In my opinion, Seiko and Grand Seiko are completely separate brands like Tudor and Rolex. Under the same umbrella, yes, but both deserve individual recognition.
OMG Thanks for the like Jenni! I also appreciate all the likes and comments!
The distance between Seiko and Grand Seiko is much greater than that between Tudor and Rolex. Seiko is a mass market brand, even if they do make some more pricey products. Tudor is a luxury brand even if they do not reach the same level of luxury as their big brother.
They are. I'd only say Tudor is much closer in quality to Rolex than Seiko is to Grand Seiko.
The new cheap Seiko's are all crap from what i have seen over the years..all of them cheap nasty rubbish ...it's only the Grands now that's any good
Despite being completely separate brands now some of the models in Seiko and Grand Seiko lineup have confusingly similar style. For example the Seiko SARX055 and the Snowflake. The later is obviously a significant upgrade but they share the same styling DNA which feels too close for two completely separate brands IMHO.
@@jimlittle5769 then you obviously don't know much about Seiko. Seiko has also used the Spring drive movement in their watches, they make their own GMT version of this grand seiko, and at a slightly lower price too. Their higher end movements are also amazing. Just because Seiko makes many, and many watch under 500 dollars, you think Seiko isn't capable of making luxury watches? Some persage or Sarx models are just as stunning as a grand seiko. Their marinemasters or 1000+dollar watches are also amazing.
Seiko and Grand Seiko are much closer than you would think, it was only a few years ago when they moved GS to its own company, but only as a way to try and make it more separate, because they would put Seiko above the GS branding.
I've owned an SBGA127 for about 6 years, and this thing still reliably gains about three seconds. Per month. It is a beautiful, understated watch that goes about its business with little fanfare. Unbelievable quality and attention to detail.
The GMT is simply amazing.
I have had my heart set on one of these for a number of years now and its nice to see other people getting onboard with their understated elegance and simplicity/purity of design.
Definitely worth the price and possibly the best value for money in all of luxury watchmaking.
An electromagnetic movement sold for 6-7k or whatever is the best value for money? The hell have you been smoking?
@@ivanlagrossemoule it is the best mechanical movement ever made. That is a fact. Objectively better watches than anything Rolex throw out their factory door.
Agree
@@ivanlagrossemoule smoking Grand Seiko
Haha, a superior technology is better? What have you been smoking?
That's the best mechanical movement in the world.
It's simple: people who buy a Grand Seiko want the best they can buy. People who buy a Rolex want what they can show off the most.
just bought the SBGE255 for my first year wedding anniversary. I love the blue 🥰 Just wished the dial had more texture like the heritage pieces, but I wanted a sports watch 😜
If you hold one of these in your hand... your doubts will melt away. These are absolutely beautiful, and flawless.
Great video, thank you again Jenni.
You did a really great job summarizing what makes Grand Seiko so special. I picked up a Skyflake this year and it’s become my go-to weekend watch over my Swiss watches. Contemplating my next GS. I also think they are great value.
Just purchased a GS SBGA413 Spring model and I'm very happy with it. The inhouse craftsmanship and attention to detail are superb. The spring drive mesmerizes you as the second hand appears to flow with time.
For me Grand Seiko has in recent years been innovating often with improvements to their movements whereas other brands like e.g. Rolex have incremental, superficial "updates" (the bezel is a different color) took but will cost 2-4x more for a lower level of finishing 🤷♂️
To me, Grand Seiko is the exact opposite of Rolex, innovative, understated, refined, tremendous value.
I own GS , do not own a Rolex yet , but you cannot say Rolex is not innovative. Both brands have many innovations contributing to the styles / function and design language of other brands
You don't find Rolex to be refined and understated? (I agree on the other two adjectives)
@@hammalamiri12 what is the last innovation by Rolex? The skydweller? An annual calendar wich is a complication 100+ years old?
Rolex has been innovative, yes, they even used to be a really great brand of rugged tool watches but that was back in the 60's.
@@dommerdom I think refinement was never a goal for Mr Wildorf, Rolex where designed to be rugged, durable tools.
Their marketing has transformed it into vulgar display of wealth, wich I consider very disrepectfull of the original spirit of the brand.
So... no, not understated in my view, at all.
@@dommerdom Not sure if you are joking
Grand Seiko produces masterpieces.
Give it a Swiss name and triple the price and it will be what the people want.
Or is it more what you wish people want.
I bought the SBGE255 a few days ago. I am so in love with it! I can't stop looking at it! Quality and beauty combined!
Grand Seiko always greatest craftsmanship on their watches! Their watch making and technology are really top of the line!
Its also great that their website has a huge amount of material on each watch. From the watch to the detailied history of each watch's movement on its page they aren't afraid to talk about everything in the watch and they sem to be proud of it.
As the collector Kevin O'Leary said: getting a GS is getting Patek Philippe quality at a much better price. most bang for the bucks hands down.
Never thought I would buy a quartz watch for over 3.000 (dollars) but 6 months later I am still in love with my Grand Seiko. As Jenni mentions, the more you understand about the craftmanship and the devotion these watches are made of the more you appreciate them. This is not "just" a quartz watch, it is a Grand Seiko high performance quartz crafted by hand. My watch has gained 2 seconds in 6 months, the second hand hits the indexes perfectly. This watch does not really need luminous hands (and it doesn´t) because of the immaculate finish of the hands that always catches the light and stands out from the deep black face of the watch. Servicing every 50 years speaks for itself...
Absolutely adore GS, just wish they made smaller cases :(
Tottally agree with you!!!
They make a number of 37 and 39mm but I agree their flagships, at 41+, is unfortunate.
check out the old GMT versions SBGM001 or SBGM029 at 39mm
@julio70585 SBGW031 and SBGW033
I have flat small wrists at 16.5cm and I just got a snowflake. I'm very happy at how well it fits and hugs the wrist with the downward lugs. definitely wears smaller than it might seem on paper
Simply better quality than Rolex.
If you think Rolex quality is that simple, you are simply wrong.
@@emilarpi345 No, Rolex quality is kind of disappointing for the price.
The snow flakes is a beautiful work of art, I'll get one after Christmas 👍❤❤
I got one yesterday, before watching this video today. A spring drive has been on my wish list for a very long time. GS are fine timepieces and so well crafted. I'm happy you like them too!
I like how Jenni is always on the verge of breaking out in laughter when nothing funny was ever said.
Prozac works great for TH-cam influencers.
I live in Switzerland and i am wearing a Skyflake. the passion that went into this watch, the quality of the finish is just incredible i surprise myself staring at it for long seconds every now and then...
I want a Grand Seiko so bad. Like I'm saving for one because goddamn they're so beautiful
I just ordered the SBGJ237 GMT Grand Seiko. Was looking to get a Pepsi. The hand finishing, craftsmanship, attention to the finest detail, and 36,000vph movement made it a no brainer. Better watch IMO. That is not a knock on the Rolex, but a compliment to the GS. Plus, I like the fact that just everyone will not know what it is with the exception of people like us who watch these videos. Glad to see you paying respect to GS.
This is just what I needed to clear my doubts about Grand Seiko. For me personally, I'd go with the GMT as the casual daily driver and the Snowflake is the perfect fit for formal wear. Thanks for these videos!
"Why they are so expensive" ??
They aren't cheap, but you have to spend 4 times as much to reach their level of detail and quality.
Yeah. The only watchmaker tops GS level of quality is A. Lange Sohne IMO. but then again, ALS cost ten to hundred times or even more compared to grand seiko.
There's no brand can match with grand seiko in the 3 aspect, the craftsmanship, accuracy and price.
@@emporytechnology1502 I love my GS SBGE255 but this is hyperbole. GS dial finishing is superb, bracelets' not bad and clasp is just OK but when you look to the movement Vacheron, Patek etc. are far superior. Lange is way ahead of GS. Credor would be a better comparison to those. For the price though GS is killing it.
@@davy3130 movement polish yes, but then again you should factor the price. And dont forget grand seiko has spring drive, miles better than traditional movement of other brand, not even ALS par in term of movement
@@davy3130 Grand Seikos have the most cutting edge and accurate mechanical movements in the industry. Do you even pay attention?
GS is top - getting my second one next week.
I own the snowflake and a beautiful mechanical wind SBGK 007, nicer finish than my Rolex
@@anacquiredtaste3582 couldn't agree more. The question is - is one brave enough to spend the money, but will be rewarded!
which one are you getting?
@@deutschetelekom2096 SBGR321 60 years limited edition with the blue rotor.
ikr? i got my 42nd GS last week, they are awesome
By far Jenni is the cutest, most knowledgeable source of watch information. Love the videos.
GS always knocks my socks off! :D
I have been aiming for the GS Snowflake for the longest of time, slowly but surely. Absolutely captivated by it, doesn't matter if its the older model to the current one. Absolutely stunning quality, craftmanship, precision, the spring drive....what more can I say. Wallet size still denying my eventually purchase.
Finally pulled a trigger for the SBGA011 last month. No regrets!
Grand Seiko are such amazing watches, I particularly like their SBGN005, with the 9F86 quartz movement. It’s the first watch on my current wishlist
awesome movement
I own that watch. The blue dial really changes beautifully in different light, and the polish on the hands and markers sparkle like jewels!
9F..the best quartz movement on the planet...
@@reezevlog agreed.. though the Seiko Astron GPS quartz takes it to another level.. accurate to 1 second every 100,000 years.. but that's kinda cheating
"you want to impress others? buy a rolex.. you want to impress yourself? buy a grand seiko."
"You want to impress others? Buy a Rolex. You don't need to impress others? Buy a Grand Seiko".
You want to impress me? Buy me a Grand Seiko...
if "you want to impress others...buy a rolex"... if you want to impress the others more, add a grand seiko to your collection and wear it ever other days when you don't wear a rolex.
Want a rolex without looking like a douchebag? Buy a tudor.
Ahhh the "I can't afford a rolex" crew 🙄
Nice explained!! I got myself a GS two years ago, the best think about it is just looking at it, plus the fact that here in Europe it still goes "under the radar" in most ocasions. It's a selfish feeling that I'm t'he only one enjoying this watch, and it isn't flashy, plus it's a conversation starter when I encounter some other watch aficionado.
@@vianouche1 sbga293, the one with white creamy dial and on a GS bracelet. Very suitable for every ocasion, most of t'he times goes unnoticed.
Nobody cares what kind of watch you wear, apart from watch enthusiasts. Which are the very small minority. If you want to impress others you buy a rolex or a royal oak. If you want the best watch possible, you buy Japanese or German watches.
@@erebusbueno I know someone who had that exact watch you have. Incredible the different color tones you get with different lighting, and that champagne dial is said to be the most difficult to make by Grand Seiko and even so more difficult to produce than the Snowflake dial.
Not flying treetop anymore. GS is on everyone’s radar, now.
That’s some command of the English language you have there! Does nobody else appreciate the fluency?!
I really do. Her English is great and her appearance in this fully male dominated watch business is really refreshing. Unfortunately she is not an independent watch reviewer.
She is one of the best independent watch reviewers.
I absolutely envy her fluency :(.
Simply charming!
As a retired foreign language teacher, I do. She has an excellent command of English colloquial expressions. Any grammatical errors she makes are not those of a foreign speaker, but rather what you commonly hear from native speakers. That tells me that she learned English mostly by interacting with native speakers, and not in a classroom.
11:08 spot on, Jenni. Most of the snobs that brush off Grand Seiko do so for this exact reason.
Most snobs only know rolex and how much does something cost.
@@gilbertoflores7397 They are actually wannabe snobs, LOL. Most of them are just plain ignorant; before they even got into watches, Rolex was the only high quality brand they knew of, and it carried over.
It's Grand Seiko, the company that beat the Swiss at their own game. It's really hard to get a better watch, especially in their respective price brackets.
Only criticism I have of the brand is the weird lack of a cohesive brand identity. You have iconic watches like the Snowflake right next to some weird post-modern Submariner homage.
These are all amazing but I believe the GMT would be my pick of the 3 followed by the snowflake! Awesome video as always and looking forward to the other grand Seiko videos u have planned! 👌
Trust me - it’s stunning in person.
Own two. My first luxury watch. They have a story and integrity which I don't feel a lot of other affordable brands do.
Personally, GS is one of the best brands out there period. Forget bang for buck (even though its the best on the market); their finishing, attention to detail, and accuracy speak for themselves. I can't think of a better $4500-$6500 to spend on a watch. Let's be real, their top end pieces rival the quality and accuracy or any swiss pieces too, people just don't ascribe as much prestige to Japanese craftsmanship!
They would be fools.
If I were given a Rolex, I would immediately sell it and get a Grand Seiko instead. The innovation, style and craftsmanship are top notch. Stunningly beautiful.
based and seikopilled
Watching this while wearing my GS Skyflake. Absolute wonder.
I wear a Seiko 5 that looks alot like the snow flake and I always get compliments! I like the understated simple looks and the smaller case size.
The power reserve indicator is one of my favourite watch complications ever.
Me too! I didn't get it until I actually got a watch with a power reserve.
@@DavidSmith-zu6eu it is sooo helpful, and it looks cool too.
Same.
Agree 👍
The closeups shows how refined the finishing is, absolutely amazing. From the closeups it made me feel some type of way.
Personally I find the Snowflakes stunning, the SBGA259 is my grail reference. 😁
I have 2 Rolexes and the Snowflake is probably my favorite watch. You have to look at the watch dial through a jeweler's loupe to see just how great GS is.
@Nigel Molesworth Yeah, not everyone likes GS or Snowflakes.
The luminous numbers on the bezel of the GMT are stunning on the dark, this watch is on my wishlist.
The watch's artistry is strastospheric, sweet looking and eloquent ...
The power meter on the Snowflake looks like groomed snow too! Beautiful. Thanks for the gorgeous closeup videos of the watches in action!
That GMT is stunning
That spring drive is ridiculous, i love how the seconds hand move on it. Also to me, seeing the small details all around the watch how perfect they are. Plus that spring drive how beautiful or hypnotic how that seconds hand moves, i'd they're worth the price tag. I love the craftsmanship and design,
Great video. I would go for the 60th Anniversary. It has a brand new movement and most important a totally new concept for the escapement, The Dual Impulse. Literally unique.
The spring drive second hand is poetry in motion - almost supernatural. I wish the beat rate of many mechanical movements was not reduced to achieve greater power reserve. To me a smoother sweeping second hand is more important.
The snowflake looks amazing and the smoothness of the seconds is insane 😱
I'm the lucky owner of a SBGA413, Spring Drive, Titanium watch called Cherry Blossom. I don't have the adequate words to describe what it is to see the elegance of the traditional handcrafted parts and the efficiency of the technology used to create this time piece.
Grand seiko is just unbelievable!! The perfection!