Giovanni Maria del Bussetto violin, 1675
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- Who is G. M. Bussetto? Never heard of him? Well, neither had I. Tune in to listen to this fascinating instrument!
CORRECTION: The 'Soil' Stradivari was bought by Perlman from Menuhin in 1986. I meant to say that Menuhin acquired the Soil in the 50's!
Pieces played in this video:
Brahms Sonata No. 2, 1st mvmnt
3rd mvmnt
Ravel, "Tzigane"
Brahms Sonata No. 2, 2nd mvmnt
We were able to play and record this violin thanks to the CHIMEI Museum and their amazing collection of instruments.
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The violin has incredible, Guarneri-like tone. I will never forget when I attended the Oberlin youth concerto competition in Cleveland's Severance Hall. It was the finals, so 3 stidents played. One had a Vuillaume, which had a huge sound. But one of the others had a Guidantus, another contemporary of Strad. I have never heard live such a glorious tone. These contemporaries were also amazingly skilled and were competitors of Strad. Thanks for this gem!
Thanks for watching! There's so many less known makers out there, it's great fun to explore them all and give them credit where it is due!
After opening thousands of oysters here from time to time I find a pearl. Thank you for such a special video.
That's so kind of you! So glad you enjoyed this! :)
Very well said.
Thank you for your candor.maybe next time I play my violin I tune 438!. She sounded very soulful shy beautiful! Thank you!
Wonderful !
This is a very beautiful sound, and nicely played, perfect for Brahms.
I love this style of violins, very deep, rich, and "soulfull"
This violin is simply rare and extra special. It's depth and richness is unique, and it simply brings me to tears, but that is because you are playing it. Rare is the violinist that can bring the composers into the room. Bravo! I hope you will eventually find a Bellosio to demonstrate, and as I have said in the past, if ever in Toronto, I would love to hear you play mine.
Menuhin sold the Soil violin in 1986 , not the 50s . I love your playing and the different analysis of the great instruments you demonstrate!! Thank you for sharing!!
Holy cow you are SO right, I can't believe I missed that!! Thanks for the note, I'll put that in the description- he bought that violin in the 50's is I think what I meant to say! :)
As always watching and listening to you makes my day. Thank you so much!
the violin sound is beautiful
It’s just like finding the love of your life.... you’ll know what fits with your playing style immediately
Very informative. Thanks!
It sounds great.
I would be interesting to hear such a Bussetto violin in its original baroque setup. This one has at some point in its life clearly been heavily 'modernized' to suit a romantic idiom, like so many baroque violins. These baroque violins were not conceived for such sound production. Some models did survive the transition well, like a number of Strads, other very fine makes sound poorly or even collapsed after the 'upgrade'. So, judging the quality of a baroque luthier would only be fair when trying his instruments in their original setups. Cheers, Willem
Very true! I wish I had the capability to play a baroque setup properly- although you're really right, most of these instruments were 'upgraded' in the 1800's and a lot didn't survive the transition. There's a lot of speculation we could go into on that alone!
I cannot play any instrument, my hands cannot transmit my feelings save through writing, yet your trenchant explanation is wholly understood.
....you are like the instrument:
Lovely to look at and wonderful to listen to!
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Menuhin's collection was crazy. But also, how he always found people who gave him genuine occasions such as how he received the Prince Khevenhüller strad or that he just went and gave a Tourte bow away to some kid he met on a journey and with whom he played. And then you reach the end of his biography and he goes, "and I have this Strad and bought that Guarneri and then I played that Strad and had to buy it..."
Fascinating.
I agree that sometimes you have to work with an instrument to get what you need out of it. My old violin, a German factory instrument, I loved the sound myself and it was very easy and enjoyable to play. However, it is not a high quality instrument, and is not always able to handle my demands. It seemed to only be able to project so much, regardless of bow pressure, brightness of strings, it just had it's limits. 2 years ago I was very fortunate to have the opportunity to use and play on a fine French violin. It was not one that I was able to pick out individually, like so many violinists do. When I first started playing on it, I did not enjoy playing it at all, it seemed so much harder to play, and harder to get the tone that I wanted. I continued playing on it, and in addition to having a luthier do some work on it, it started to really grow on me. It was meeting all my demands and then some. It made me a better violinist, because I had to work harder to refine my playing to suit it. Now I can't imagine my life without it. Other violins I've tried since just don't seem to compare. I even prefer it over a David Tecchler I tried recently.
I love this story- it's very similar to what I went through with some of the instruments I played! We all fight that good fight with our violins, and come out better for it in the end :)
Glorious! A friend of mine, here in Atlanta, several years ago, found a Santo Serafin in an Antique shop! Never know where you might find a gem! I was pleased to play it after he had a good local Luthier "tune it up". It had that same depth this Bussetto had in the bottom register. I picked it up and played the first few measures of the Tschaikovsy, and it was like moving to it from my rather mundane 1840 Mirecourt Violin( a perfectly acceptabel fiddle) was like moving from a Chevy to a Maserati> Love the channel!
It's amazing what you can find tucked away, if you just keep your eye peeled! Thanks for watching! :)
Merci ! Toujours intéressant !
Beautiful instrument, wonderful sweet and powerful sound!
While I am sure I'm missing the subtle tonal bits, I like this instrument and would play it with pride. It speaks to me, with a deep richness and melancholy, well that stirs me.
"Just an aside, I have perfect pitch."
Lol, your playing is wonderful.
The depth and glissando just glides..... 🥰
A little off topic, but I would like to hear from the Luthier that maintains this amazing collection. With so many fine insturments they must love their job....or...maybe they're pulling their hair out!? As usual, another great vid and I look forward to more.
I will certainly ask him how he feels about doing a video next time I see him! It's just been him and another guy working there for as long as I can remember. It's a tremendous task!
aTonalHits id like to see that video too! Luthiers are awesome
Amazingly interesting videos!
Very interesting video.Loving the distinctive baroque sound of this very instrument.Thank you!
every fine instrument has its own unique character, I liked the video
To follow your butter analogy, this instrument is ridiculously smooth. While I agree that it doesn't have that carrying weight, it would do well in a chamber orchestra setting or even classical era quartets. Fantastic instrument and fantastic video, as always! :)
I used to study with Ilya Kaler when I was a kid- and he LOVED a good butter analogy. And I find myself still using them, because they always get that idea of slicing into the strings exactly how I feel it! :)
Your videos are very interesting. Great subject matter and music. I love stringed instruments. I play piano. But I love to listen to symphonies rich in strings. They bring such peace. Thank you for sharing.
I liked very much this instrument, never heard about this luthier but it surprised me instantantly.
This violin projects the sound very well , it has strong mediums and balanced bass notes, the higher ones are very clear and clean at the point that don't hurt ears, turning to be a pleasant and delightful sound.
It remmembers me the tone of the Amati one, in some notes.
In my oppinion, this G. M del Bussetto is a great violin for soloists , not just for playing in the orchestra, very remarkable sound !!
Very nice.
I love Bussetto and have tried to learn about him, whatever is known. I have seen reference to his "square" outline, which I don't understand, as the form seems so fluid and graceful and the epitome of the curved line.
Gracias 😁🎻
I love the E string. It's Amati sweet!
4.43 on super beautiful pitch
wonderful. I love these videos.
I believe that the ex-soil is pronounced "swall" ...at least that's how Perlman pronounced it
That's so good to know, thanks!! I thought it was such a funny name for it- should've done more research! :/
@@aTonalHits I always pronounced it the same, until he offered his masterclass online.He briefly spoke about his "Scratchavarius" lol.
Again, I love your videos and thank you for posting!
I can hear that there are differences between the different instruments you've shown in the series, but wish I could hear even half of what you do. Great stuff - thank you.
Wonderful thanks for the insight
Wonderful Mas Mas !!!
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Meraviglioso 🎻 quanto mi piacerebbe provarlo 😉
yes theyre all historic beauties but some do struggle to push out them deeper notes , Stradivarius was constantly experimenting with deeper bowled backs and lower and higher sides f hole sizes , im sure giuseppe guarneri did before the del gesù ,old bull was created , or paganinis il cannon
If you don't need it any more, I'd take it. I like it.
I'm a guitar player, but the Bussetto doesn't sound like it sings on those dark notes, sort of damps instead of dances.. ??
Nice to see and hear you discussing how you relate to the instrument.. I get your sense of a 'living' relationship between the capabilities of the instrument and the command and dynamics of the player .. that's exciting and what makes my heart leap about music.
It sounds beautiful to me
I like the look of the violin. I noticed that the pitch of the G string seemed to sag a bit flat - perhaps that was due to the slightly low tuning. It just doesn't seem to have an "excitement" to its sound. I enjoyed seeing the photo of Menuhin and Grappelli. I had the good fortune of hearing Grappelli play in a small concert setting decades ago. He was absolutely amazing, a true master of the violin and a very accomplished pianist as well.
Yes, I think 'sag' is the right word for the G string- it was super dark, but just seemed to lack in... any sort of sparkle, I guess. An odd instrument. So cool you got to see Grappelli! I loved this picture, not only for the two of them, but because their shirts were fantastic, hah!
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Hi, and welcome Bach
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5.30 so rich sound
As a piano guy and not a violin guy, I have a stupid question. It seems like in the violin world, there are the super-old, crazy-high-dollar masterpieces, the newer knock-offs and anything new is considered cheap crap. If Fazioli and Steinway can make high quality pianos every year for top-level pianists to perform on, why can't today's violin manufacturers make high quality instruments on a par with the curated museum pieces typically lent to musicians by their super-rich owners? Was wood different back then, or is there something in the aging of an old violin which makes it better? Is this need for super-high-dollar violins a problem for the current generation of emerging violinists worldwide?
This is such a good observation, and one that I don’t think a lot of people quite understand. The fact is, while there are amazing violins from way back when, there are just as good instruments from today. I really want to show off these instruments soon too- just, like everyone else, everything got crazy this year!
The violin market, though, is exactly that- a market, and a fabricated one at that. One of the first violins sold for a million was a strad to this very same foundation, Chimei, back in 1990. After that, you can track the records and see how they completely exploded- people caught on that violins were a commodity! And even though some of these instruments are absolute gorgeous things that I would love to play on a regular basis, they’re just not worth 13 million. I hope that clears up some of your question? 😅
A few questions, how does the sound post setting effect the highs, mids and lows and do you leave it set or do you get to try different settings and different bows to achieve your best sound? How about a color hard cover book with all the collections you have seen with a few thoughts on the tone of each. As you can see by my picture I am into guitars and a book format I liked is call the Beauty of the Burst. Cool book on 1958-1960 Gibson Les Paul guitars- something like this but on violins might be great to have!
That's a great idea! Definitely something to put into our huge list of ideas. But maybe we'll be able to swing it one of these days! As for the sound post- nah, they don't do any adjustments- it's basically straight out of the vault, most of them haven't been tuned or touched in maybe days, but most likely months or, for some of the less popular ones, maybe years.
I liked the buttery sound of this right away, but I also commented out loud to myself that it doesn't really "pop" which was similar to something you said later in the video. I also found it interesting that you typically tune to 441 or 442. As a rock/pop/jazz musician I'm always at 440. Are orchestral tunings creeping sharp again? Why on Earth can we all not stay at 440?! It messes with my ear and I wonder what it'll do to my daughter who seems to have perfect pitch or at least has developed much of it already at 6. Curious to your thoughts! As ever, LOVED the video!
Haha! It's a tricky thing, this tuning- I have to say, I have almost never tuned to 440 on the dot- usually 441 or 442. But any higher than that- if you listen to some older recordings, or I know Berlin and Vienna tune almost at 445- they get tough to listen to! I listened to a recording of Kogan playing Tchaikovsky the other day, and I swear it was like 448 or something- it was ridiculous!!
I can't even tell you have much that makes my day that you talk about our videos with your six year old daughter! I teach full time, so education for young kids in music is something I feel super strong about. Perfect pitch!! Develop her ear, that is definitely not something that happens every day! You must be so proud :)
And lastly- Katha is short for Katharyn. My parents got creative with spelling, so I just lopped off the 'ryn'. Hope that helps! Thank you so much for watching!!
90% of violin sound is the player. A good player can make any fiddle of reasonable quality upwards sound wonderful, as this player does.
Thank you ! I am wondering how the f-hole of the Bussetto is different from other violins.
Maybe to settle the question player or instrument, it would be interesting to hear a beginner violin of about $500 and an intermediate of about $2000 and such an old Master instrument side by side by one player.
I wish you should be able to hear my "baby"🎻
Your ❤️ hears more than my 👂's.
Wish you the best.
Can you show us and play an old instrument that has actually not been modified at all, ie guenine neck and fingerboard etc etc. ? would be something special.
I would love to do that- and will do so, once I find one of them!! They're much more rare than you might think! :)
You should do a collab with Twoset Violin. That would be awesome!
As long as they don't just mess around like they always do and take away the charm of Ms Zinn's lovely and informative videos....
The bows, violins and violinists create you in confluence therein together dear. The tailpieces cannot just be tuned by tapping, but by the violinists skill and the interaction of the strings of D&A Strings widths still. Where is it dark and less dark?
Discuss the impact the Moor had on the making of the violin 🎻.
Oh boy. Loaded question- something that I promise I will address in another video! Thanks for the question/suggestion!
Are you ever in the northern ohio area I have a violin played by one of the Cleveland orchestra members and would love to here it played to its fullest .
Please could you tell how these instruments are maintained for example the parts which wear such as the neck fingerboard nut bridge and so on?
7:56 i think it sound very nutty warm there i like this one but not the higher notes i think😁 nice video
Did you say that Menuhin sold the Soil Stradivarius of 1714 to Itzhak Perlman? I believe Perlman bought that instrument in 1986.
Menuhin and Stephane Grappelli 4:51
Nice violin, very pretty. The low strings sound a bit compressed, like something is preventing them from resonating fully. I wonder if the sound post is the best position.
I hope to see Pedrazzini violin😀 Please review pedrazzini
I will certainly try to, once we can get out there and start taking a look at instruments again! :)
@@aTonalHits Thank you~ Have a goodday!! :)
Don't EVER fight with an instrument. A violin at the very least should come when called.
A good violin, at least! :)
It would be nice to hear a review of some of Jacobus Stainer's instruments...
Here you go :)
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@@aTonalHits Thanks!...
The Ander: both !!!
I have several old violins, this violin sound similar to one of my favorite one. It's very soft and has a very different tone between the Guarneri. is good and bad. It's hard to play aggressively but same time It's almost impossible to play not beautifuly. always shows a sweet sound Let me know if this instrument is that kind of type. It would be very interesting if it were similar.
I think that's a really apt description, and I absolutely feel that way about this instrument! Granted, I haven't been able to spend as much time with this instrument as would be necessary to truly get to know it- but that was absolutely my impression of the Bussetto- hard to get a big sound, but easy to play beautifully.
aTonal Hits- My luthier informed me that nice sounding violins that don’t project, at least in this one instance, was how the arching was done. She knew from a glance across the room it’s limitations, and she was right. She noticed what she referred to as the arching being pinched, not broad enough, I guess. Must be nice to be that astute!
I think it all depends on the player.
People just think its good because its old.
So are they saying that there are no crappy violins in the old days ?
Of course there were crappy violins in the old days! That's sort of the point we're trying to make with this series- there were masterworks, and there were instruments that weren't as good, but they have historical value. Once everything opens up, we will take a look at some modern makers.
There should be fewer explanations and more time for the performance to allow for a proper understanding of the sound quality.
Oh! My daughter and I speak of you fairly often and we're wondering how to pronounce your name? Thanks if you see this!
What kind of strings are on this Bussetto?
I enjoy your presentation of old violins
my own thoughts on this:
if its not in the instrument, -- then even the best player cannot make it happen.
for me a good violin carries, -- played PP, the tone should carry to the end of the room.
and --- an interesting violin is like a botanic garden, endless new things to discover.
lastly, the bow often is the limiting factor, -- greatly underestimated. .
Wondering why not change to 441Hz if that is what you like?
It freaks out somebody with perfect pitch?
I normally would, but I have so little time with each of these instruments, and they are not tuned normally, so to tune it up to something I would be comfortable with sometimes takes more time than I have! Good question though :)
Giovanni Maria Del Russetto 1640 to 1681.
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Busseto kkkkkk
Imagine o nome do pai 😱
Ok, Love your video as always, but the bridge on the violin next to you on the table is leaning way forward. needs to adjusted back into place.
Just saying. ;^)
Agh, you're right!! I know one of those strings snapped while I was making a video- I can't tell which instrument that was, but I was also adjusting a few bridges. Hope I got to that one!!
..."você gostou do meu Bussetto?"
Hmm, 438 vs 441 is comment worthy, yet intonation issues abound in the playing.
Use it to play certain kinds of music. Weepy ballads or something. Anyway, it's better than many modern violins I would guess.
The ribs seemed to be overly tall. In one portion of the video, I could have sworn this was a viola, not a violin!!!!
I know, it's a weird shape, right?? When I was playing it I didn't really notice, but watching it on video it looks super wide!
@@aTonalHits Wow....I almost never receive a reply from the "artist". Thanks for taking the time. I was wondering what violins you own personally?
Butter is not a typical instrument on violin 😆😆
the soil was given to perlman in the 80's
@MusikMason Yes you're right, i've heard about that. Soil is perfection, so it need to be play by an old and real soul like Perlman
Obviously it's both
I love buceta
When I hear a man giving you instructions....it appears to me as a prisoner being filed.😁
why dont you make one ,makes sense ,learn
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Read it Bussetto, not Buzetto. There's a reason for the double S. Please give us more sound, never mind all the talk. Fantastic sound, so please less talk.
"Dark" or Velvet tones? Ie Not flat/matt black and dull. It's difficult to get a good balance?
Because the overall resonance of the Instrument has to be integrated by/with the Instrumentalists, and that's the same for good Mathematics.., which is why the Temporal omnidirectional-dimensional Origin of Superspin Modulation, e-Pi-i interference positioning resonance bonding, is this Universal Holographic self-defining meaning and purpose of all relevant Significance.
Music, the "harmony of the Spheres", is THE prelude to comprehensible cohesion of common sense perceptions.
Greatly informative video for "Seekers of Truth".., full spectrum.
hardly a strad...
hmmm,... Jack White typically chooses the worst guitars he can find; they're better for improving his musicality I guess. ところで、よく弾きましたね！(^_^)
You will not get a job in an orchestra if you have a lousy instrument.
Loot-ee-AYE? I’ve never in 60 years heard an English speaker pronounce ‘luthier’ as if speaking French. It does not make you sound more erudite or intelligent, it’s just silly.
I'm sorry I've offended you! I've never heard it said any other way than how I pronounce it. How do you say it?
Probably lutheeyer.......amazing how times change. Used to be that pronouncing g foreign words correctly was better than dumbing it down to crass American mispronunciation. I like that you pronounced it correctly.
Tioga Fretworks could consider using the term "lute maker", if the French is to difficult for him/her.
As silly as your face 😂😂😂😝😝😝😂😂😂😝😝😝