GZA, RZA, ODB 1991 Public Access
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EGOTRIPLAND.COM brings you this crazy rare 1991 interview (and freestyle) featuring GZA (then doing business as the Genius), Ol' Dirty Bastard (then going by Ason Unique), and RZA (then known as Prince Rakeem) on short-lived, local Bronx public access program, Rhythm & Soul.
Video courtesy of all-star contributor J-Zone's VHS archives. For more to the story, check out bit.ly/elD5mL
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Sounds like some Killah-Bees flying around in the background
+BS Turok Bong Bong
Kevs Stream Excuse me?
RZA slang
Kevs Stream Ah "Bong bong". 5 minutes ago your comment was only "Bong" :D
jet lag from sfo to mnl. Bless up
True ODB story...1993 Wu Tang's first time ever in Cali, a few months after releasing 36 chambers....There use to be this event called the Gavin Convention (3 day Hip Hop Show Case). This particular year it was held in San Francisco,Ca, with showcases through out the Bay Area. I was in college and hosted a college radio show and some how came up on backstage passes in order to get "drops" from recording artist for my particular show. How I knew it was there 1st time ever in Cali?....While chopping it up with The GZA and getting hella "drop sound bites" from him, He said "Yo, this is our first time ever coming to Cali and we had no idea we had love like that". Anyways, after about a 30 min convo the homie GZA blessed me with some tickets to see the Wu perform in Oakland the following day. Mind you, at that point the only Wu membersI saw was GZA and Shyhiem the rugged child.(who must have been 15yrs old).
The following night I'm at this little hole in the wall club in Oakland,Ca. The spot had a main club area and a smaller adjacent vip type area. I'm posted up dolo in the small VIP spot which had a small Bar but also had a DJ spinning beats. Roughly about 8 people total in there with 3 of them being these local cats standing in front of me in a cypher busting freestyles to the beats. About 10 minuets later I hear the DJ say "We got the Wu Tang in the house". I look towards to bar area and it was all 9 members, plus Poppa Wu and about 15 fine bitches real talk. i see GZA, he nods what up from a distance, I nod back like good looking on the tiks mane. THEN........I see the "OLD DIRTY FUCKIN BASTARDS" who is walking towards me, looking directly at me like he was coming to holla. ODB had on a very stained and wrinkled white T on. I'm talking very dirty, very wrinkled, stains all over it and he was sweating like a moufucka, just pouring sweat. It was odd because all the other members were dressed Wu Tang Fly. He gets like 3 steps from me, turns and head into the lil freestyle cypher which was right in front of me. After hearing about 2 bars from who ever was spitten ODB unleashed retarded drunken style animated theatrical bars at these dudes. Till this day I've never ever scene ANYBODY rhyme like that, completely invaded personal space, It was personal too because he walked up on each one, his face inches from there's. Spit coming out, sweat coming out.....and he was literally hella dirty. Papa Wu comes over and grabs him. Papa Wu emphatically apologizes to the 3 dudes for ODB'S behavior and pulls ODB to the bar area. I could over hear the other Wu cats get at him about "always buggin and fuckin shit up and to chill the fuck out. Think he chilled? NOPE. After telling the other members to fuck off and mind your own fuckin bussiness AND after Papa Wu turned his head this nigga ODB walked right back over to the cypher and got at these dudes AGAIN. But this time he was really on that ODB Drunk style shit, AGAIN...hella hand and body motions, all up in each one grill dam near kissing em(no homo), spit flying, sweat flying, I'm talking SUPER WET SUPER DIRTY ASS WHITE T SHIRT and lyrically fuckin these dudes up saying the most bizzare chit off beat shit. AGAIN...Pappa Wu see's him and comes snatch him up( and a gives the 3 dudes a very very sincere apology on Wu Tangs behalf AGAIN).... TRILL SHIT......after the same rigamaro as before with the other members this nigga creeps off again walks towards these 3 dudes to fuck em up some more, but Papa Wu see's him and grab him before he get to em and tells ODB, "Nigga, knock it off right now before i FUCK YOU UP".
ODB says to Papa WU ok and post up right beside me....BUT he faced the wall, I had my back to the wall. I'm just knowing the nigga was gonna try to get at me on some shit because he is ON ONE and standing right next to me. I don't look at him or acknowledge him but i can hear the nigga rhyming, so I turn and peep him. MY NIGGA IS FACING A BRICK WALL LIKE HE ON DETENTION, RHYMING/BATTLING THE WALL, FULL BLOWN SWEAT, SPIT FLYING AND CURSING, THEATRICAL, HAND AND BODY MOTIONS ALL OVER THE PLACE, BUT SAYING SOME DOPE SHIT. This goes on for about 10 min no lie. Then I hear the DJ say "WU TANG TO THE STAGE"....By this time it's about 30-40 people in the VIP Spot. Trill shit.....All 40 plus people plus all 9 Wu Members walk out the VIP to the main club area and ALL of us go on stage. Shit was incredible......but wait we are talking ODB! They did'nt have a DJ, instead they performed off a "DAT" tape (pre recorded instrumentals). Not sure what the 1st song was, but ODB had the 1st verse. About 4 bars into his verse the DAT tape stopped. ODB has a fuckin fit. RZA rewinds the tape and ODB starts spitten. 8 bars in same thing, tape stop. AGAIN ODB flashes, says he gonna kill the sound man(RZA) and demands that the tape be rewind so that he can get his shit off. In fact he says "AIN'T NO FUCKIN BODY ROCKIN UNLESS THE TAPE IS REWIND SO THAT HE CAN GET HIS SHIT OFF! Mind you, he was dripping sweat and hella dirty. NO BODY WAS TRYING TO EVEN STAND CLOSE TO HIM( Wu niggas included) After trying to fix the DAT TAPE for a good 5 min RZA was like fuck it...NEXT SONG. Other Wu niggas nodded in agreement, but ODB was not having it. My nigga goes off on a drunken/high tangent about how the other members always be hating on him, about the people are here to actually see him, NOT the other niggas.....and more importantly "FUCK THAT SHIT GOD, IF I DON'T SPLASH MY VERSE, AIN'T NO BODY SPLASHING" Niggas was trying to grab his mic an all. Mind you, we/they been on stage a good 15 min now. I see METH talking to Pappa Wu in discuse and then Pappa Wu walks up to ODB and whisper something in his ear. ODB then pauses, looks around then slams the MIC on the stage, breaking it and says" Aight, it's like that my nigga, ok fuck all ya'll bitch ass niggas then, I'm out back to my hotel room.....but yo....which one of ya'll fine Cali bitches wanna come get high with Ason Unique?....and literally bounced out with 4 bitches.
THEN....ALL I HEARD WAS" M.E.T.H.O.D MAN " coming from the sound system and the crowed went funkin ballistic in OAKLAND CALIF.
SHIT HAPPENED 25 YRS AGO...BEEN AROUND HIP HOP 30YRS....TO THIS DAY MY MOST FAVORITE/MEMORABLE MOMENT IN HIP HOP.
THANK YOU ASON UNIQUE...I SEEN IT WITH MY OWN EYES, HE REALLY REALLY WAS AN OLD DIRTY BASTARD!
Thanx for sharing...
😂 ts gold fam 👐
Wow great Wu story cuz
This is the coolest fucking thing I've ever read in a comments section
Cool story fam
When ODB said "Ima give it to you raw" and the interview chick was like "yea give it to me raw" lol my eyes watered
Fr bruh 😂😂😂
LMAO xD
ro3snowman Well I thinking, "why is he looking at her like they wanna bang" then he said that. LMAO
😂
She's a hottie too lol
It's weird seeing GZA talk the most and ODB and RZA being the quiet one's. Awesome footage
Word
He was the most successful back then. He actually had an album out.
@@samufish That's really cool because he's my favorite Wu member
The Engineer he is pretty awesome. Liquid Swords is one of my fav Wu projects.
@@samufish It's one of the greatest works of raw lyricism!
This is the nucleus of Wu Tang three cousins
Well, GZA & RZA are brothers...ODB is their little cousin
Nah G they all cousins... All N Together Now... R.I.P. Ason Unique
@@myobokujeweler2727
Little cousin? ODB is a year older than RZA.
@@myobokujeweler2727 wrong all three are cousins. Google is at your fingertips please do your research before trying to correct someone.
Travonte' Sligh 😹😹🤡🤡🤡
ODB is so calm and thoughtful in this interview…it's tough to say this because I love ODB and his energy he brought to the world, but it's said to see what drugs can do to a person mentally and physically. Comparing this interview to some of his final interviews is sad for me. True legend tho
Agree. He didn't have to die. People who blame the CIA or other agencies are as paranoid as he was. No disrespect, but it's obvious. Crack & powder coke cause heart attacks & paranoia.
This interview proves that ODB deserves the same treatment as heath ledger, ODB was a character he played and after watching this its safe to say after 1993 it seems he took it too far, thats my analysis.
He really was for these was his innocent times. Sometimes I wonder where tf did shit go wrong for this man to turn out the way he did? It’s sad man, he had children and everything. When it’s too late it’s too late 😞💯. #ripodb
ODB was a Scorpio, powerful!
Dirty was Murdered
GZA was already polished in 91, smooth seamless flow, ill lyrical content
"How can I put it, life is like video footage, directors, they never understood it" - RZA my all time favorite rap verse ever
My deadly corrosive dosage attack when you least notice through explosive postage
How can I put it, my life is like video footage, **hard to edit** directors, they never understood it.
**to compulsive** my deadly corrosive dosage...
@@Thizzfather I dont play, the rap suflee salt'a for the day rula zig zag zig a, leg leg arm head, spread like plague we drink Hennessey by the keg, got the golden egg + the goose 80proof absolute mixed w cranberry fruit juice ginseng boost, i got yo neck in a noose
GZA had that look in his eye..... lmao.
Man hard to believe just 2 years later they'd completely change the landscape of hip-hop forever not to mention drastically improve their own abilities.
This whole interview was geniusly hilarious, I can watch this over and over again
Gza gave her the come do me line aggressive lol
she was feeling u too GZA
She was feelings ODB tbh she was feeling weird around GZA my nigga RZA was just vibin
She look like she didn't want to do the job
I wonder if these guys knew at the time they were 2 years away from releasing the greatest hip hop album of all time.
ODB before the drugs was a cool calm kid…gza is a born lyricist, that freestyle was dope!!!
The GZA free styling on a public access program in 1991. Still better than anything that is being released today.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Michael Thompson - that was'nt a freestyle, that was a rhyme he wrote on the album Words from the Genius. I don't think she asked him to freestyle tho, just kick a rhyme.
You ain't never lie
Absolute Factz
@@JohnnyAce415 it’s still a freestyle, freestyle got multiple meaning since everyone got it mixed up
Seeing the God Ason aka ODB like this he’s so calm. It’s crazy how fame and the pressure can amplify any type stress or drug use. He was dealing with a lot after Protect ya neck. RIP Ason.
Daaaayum GZA was the best since day one. Show me anyone who could slay mc's like him.
meth...probably
Ghost, Rae, RZA, Inspectah Deck
GZA definitely had a nice voice, sorta like a cleaned up ODB almost.. But the RZA is the reason that there even is a Wu-Tang. He's written books about it, I mean when is the last time you seen Rick Ross write a book? No offense to him cause you know he got a flow but still... look at the BIGGER PICTURE.....
YOUR MOTHER DON'T TEXT IN ALL CAPS FOR NO REASON.
#PREACH #OPENUR3RDEYE #THARZA #BOBBYDIGITAL #36CHAMBERSOFDOPE #BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYOURSELF #YOUNGNIGGAGETTINHOES #IDONTHAVEATWITTER
If you understand this w/o judging some no life from TH-cam you should thumbs UP. ;) ;) ;)
Gza taught a lot of them how to flow and spit
+AlejandroHiiiPower GZA TAUGHT RZA HOW TO SPIT BRUH
Gza kicked a rhyme from Wu tang forever in 91. ice cold
It's from the track 'Words From the Genius'. He just used some of the lines on Wu-Tang Forever, as did RZA.
Yeah those last lines were in his verse on Severe Punishment joint in the Wu-Tang Forever album
Here after watching Wu Tang : An American Saga
Cody West they might show this interview
Yes!
Ruben Dominguez yoo they showed it this week !
Ruben Dominguez I think, lol
Humble beginnings for real 😂 who would’ve thought all three would become legends.
That freestyle was dope asf🔥🔥🔥
Terri Belford - That was'nt a freestyle, he wrote that song; l still got the tape. Im responding to ya 3 years later, l know.
What song is it then?
He started off rhyming top of the dome then transitioned into written
@@ICAMHER2SIN False.
@@cuzcuzz7785 It's actually called words from the genius, the title of the album.
Seeing ODB here is like seeing Tom Riddle before he became Voldemort.
Who?
Harry Potter villain.. Google it
lool haha
Or Jack Napier before he became The Joker.
johnwien he was in the very first Harry Potter movie? During that chess scene?
Whaaaat. ODB the BeatBoxer ?? Pure gold. Thank God for TH-cam !!!!
'91 was a great year for music. Right before the gangster ish started & rap still had a message. New Jack Swing beats, crazy bright clothes...just classic. (I was in 1st grade then, lol).
GZA is one of the best ever
GZA... Not only a genius but cool af at the same time.
that freestyle was so casual and cool
Cap guy: when you want to be on TV and get famous but also you got warrants
I think that's dj mathematics if im not mistaken.
😂😂😂
Ironically I think that is CAPadonna lol
4:16
GZA WAS A SAVAGE.
"What kind of style did you like? "
GZA: "None o them"
The God was honest. Never a Savage. Foh.
MasterCipher Supreme how are you going to call a human being as God?
Come on man. I expected all the Wu Tang fans to be of the higher intelligence.
@@seekerundue I see that you're not intelligent. Check Psalms 82:6 and John 10:34 and put a fork in it. That's how.
MasterCipher Supreme nah mate read the qur'an instead.
It has EVERYTHING.
@@seekerundue Proud owner and Allah is a Blackman. Do the Knowledge before you try to do the Wisdom. You're not true Wu fan because Wu Tang represents Allah The Blackman. Smh.
Gza was looking at ma like a snack lol.
Yoo I was saying the same thing lol he giving her the eyes
shes my coworker.. she said they were very cool.. but jodeci tried to hit on her...
Cosmic GrandMaster ~ LOL
Cosmic GrandMaster lol wtf
Cosmic GrandMaster #PrettyFeetMatter
wow that Gza freestyle was epic and pg-13 clean . now i know why they call Gza the Genius .
It wasnt a freestyle. It was off of his song.
***** true. You right. It was still freestyle
love the style each one is coppin at this time . and it's almost as if you can feel the comraderee between them, there friendship
tearing up partys waxing mc's lol
RIP to the drunken master!!
Gza swiched the rhyme from Words From a Genius, to this freestyle, to Severe Punishment... CLASSIC WORDSMITH always buildin'...
Gza was with Cold Chillin Records. Words From The Genius!! Prince Rakim ODB R.I.P.
That kool How Gza brought his fam thru for a solo interview
ODB is so much different here
Ethan MJ look up "rza at obd's funeral" ....it will clear up why he seams different in this video...rza talks about obd before they (wutang) got super big in the industry,and how he (rza) feels like he should take a part of the blame for his (odb's) lifestyle that killed him.
@@sixthsoul8788this was probably before the drugs
Ason Unique is not a Ol' Dirty Bastard
Gza freestyle was tight, he got great vocabulary skills
In his rawest form he still sounds good. That's lasting value.
I was 1 year old when they did this interview and yes RZA is my father!
it’s crazy to grow up with the wu n to see the show that’s out now then to come to this hidden gem. wish more ppl got to see this side of them. especially odb i mean he was a thoughtful creative human being ppl act like they forgot that
Gza: "We was almost born rhymin." Makes sense to me!
“The way I come off on the mic is attractive
I could make a quadriplegic hyperactive
With lyrics of friction causing mics to spark
My style couldn’t be bitten by a shark”
Whewwwww 🔥🔥🔥
I would give anything for a time traveling Delorean to fly back to the golden era and watch Wu-Tang change the game from G-Funk to Strait lyricism and grimy beats.
I would tell Biggie to lay low after the Source Awards. I would warn Pac not to go downstairs at that studio and I would tell Nas to keep up the good work.
Wu-Tang first 7 albums were all classics. No rap crew has influenced hip-hop quite like they did.
You should tell Pac to wear a vest at vegas instead
I tried that. I found out he was your daddy too.
Correct me if im wrong but didnt the whole west coast g-funk shit blow up right around the time this was filmed. Which means gfunk and the wu east coast style ran head 2 head for a while till eventually the gfunk won out for a period due to it being more club friendly with the focus on beats that make ya wanna dance rather than pure lyricism that held the east strong for so long? Mostly a NY fanboy that got into the game listening to Stretch and Bobbito (wkcr 89 tec 9.9) during the graveyard shifts at a gas station back in the day so dunno if i got my facts right here or not. The only real west cost guys i was fans of back in the day were the guys getting airtime on the Stretch Armstrong show like Heiroglyphics, Souls of Mischief, Casual etc.
You are pretty much on point. Maybe a little bit off but not far. G-Funk took over immediately after the Chronic dropped in 92. Pioneered lyrically by Snoop & the Dogg Pound, the era was in its hay day while Wu-Tang was on the come up. The reason I can't say wether you are right or wrong is because it's really a matter of subjective opinion. I would say that by 96 though, the G-Funk era was done and everything from Death Row after Dogg Food was either watered down shelf stocking material or Tupac.
Tony Starks Thanx for the reply man. Cant believe its been over 20 years and I remember this more clearly than than the god dam course im trying to study atm lol.
GZA already got his GZA-Flow like in his primetime.
it's insane to see just how much crack ruined ODB's life
The Genius... you can tell the era that influenced him... spoken so clearly with no tolerance for sucka emcees.... gotta love it
Yeah I peep that too. love him!
dang why the video clipped out??! I was waiting to see the Asan slide! ODB!! rip
Ason Unique
Yoooo this is too smooth yo, Hip Hop Could Never Die, Cause Wu Tang Is Forever !
That freestyle in the end is sick!
gza's freestyle alone is better than anything mainstream rappers today could even write. that shit was tight.
damn!!!! GZA 91 freestyle just took out what most rap cats say on there whole album in 2011!!!
Damn Gza!! Genius got them with his mind....love da game!!
Wu-Tang episode 1 in Hulu made me want to watch this history
Me too, I'm watching it now
Ditto... actually popped up in my recommendations, I've been eating up any interview I can find since the show premiered. Gonna be funny to see if this gets reenacted in the show.
:46 ODB calmly telling how each of them was the dopest emcee in bedstuy, east Brooklyn, and staten island
All In Together Now
Gettin paid gettin fresh for da weather now
things are getting good looking better now
She is a very good interviewer. Super informed and respectful.
'let me tell you about the genius, I have a style of my own, my hands are like vice grips holding a microphone' always loved the genius' flow..
This is the calmest I have seen ODB he also looks quite handsome
I just watched the Mics and Men documentary brought me here. I had to watch this interview in its entirety. 😂 GZA was hilarious. The interviewer said: “I like that” GZA: “Do YOU? (I bet you do like it girl 😂) Wu Tang is for the children! 🙌🏾
Kandaka Long you should watch wutang American saga. Great show
“Put me in Coach; I’m ready to play today; ahh put me in Coach”….it’s a beautiful day for a ball game “ Peace!
Throwback! Gotta watch the older gods later on! Long Live ODB!🙏🤟🍾💯
GZA, Guru, Rakim, Big L, Pun, Treach, BDK, DOOM, Redman, Biggie, Nas and Slick Rick the greatest emcees.
Kane and Common, too.
Liquid Swords Great list but it's missing Melle Mel, Kool Keith, Mos Def and Kool G Rap
Liquid Swords now you're talking
From the East, at least.
@Died 2day!? stop trolling
R.I.P. O.D.B. aka Ason Unique aka Dirt Dog aka Dirt McGirt!!!🎧🎧🎧🎵🎵🎵🎤🎤🎤🙏🙏🙏💗💗💗
Big Baby Jesus
I like a video like this, when ODB was being himself, chilling and joking. Overall, a nice vibe from everybody
6:05 - 6:15 went on to be the 2nd half of Gza's verse in "Severe Punishment" on Wu Tang Forever.
THIS IS WHEN THEY WERE "ALL IN TOGETHER NOW!" WHICH WAS BASICALLY THE GROUP THAT STARTED WU TANG
Peace to all public access TV shows from ny to la.alot dope groups had their first break. I remember all great live 30 minute hip hop shows in Los Angeles.
Do you remember the hip hop interview show between 91 and 93 titled "Music Entity" with VJ host 'Mass Hysteria'. Searching for any video footage of that show. It also aired in Brookyln and Detroit.
gza just goes of with an intellectual flow
That was so smooth
I remember " Come Do Me " and " Prince Rakeem. Who knew that a few years later they would add 6 more members and chop heads off with their Wu Tang Swords!!
GZA always keepin it cool af.
Yeah back in the days but he seem awkward asf nowadays
I can clearly remember listening to Protect ya neck back in the summer of '92 on underground rap radio then a few mouth later the video comes out and it was like a bomb had been set off in New York. METHOD MAN hits radio nation wide followed by 36 Chamber it was a wrap. Wu murdered the rap game it was a full scale sound assault on the masses. Wow that kinda energy will never be felt again in Hip Hop. Impossible today to duplicate what they did back in the early 90's their timing was perfect.
Protect ya neck actually came out December 92
@@tyliekinc.7th chamber
Geezus! Bro how have I never seen this and this has been here for 11 years. GZA has ridiculous skills.
Dirty's "Just Rhymin' With Biz" beatbox is pretty nice. He's got the grunt down.
GZA barely looked elsewhere besides that chick. The thirst was strong in him. lol
He wanted her to come do him, just like his song said. LOL
@@heavyhandsholmes.9494 lol
@@heavyhandsholmes.9494 😂 Lololol
@@heavyhandsholmes.9494 😂😂😂
GZA Kiiiiiiiiiillef that freestyle!
6:55
GZA SNAPS
I have Words From the Genius on tape. Bought it back about '94. I didn't like it, but I listen back to it and can hear their potential just before they came out and flipped everything on its head.
Wow. Gza's style THEN is much like his style NOW, and I mean that in a GOOD way. Even"pre" Wu, his lyrical blade was sharp. We now also see The RZA, The GZA, and ODB (with many other unseen investors in the background I'm quite sure) was really putting in the foot work for the foundation of what would soon become........ The Wu Tang Clan.
Gza influenced ALL of yo top 5 mc's, quiet as kept.
Truth Seeker2020 facts
interviews were so much more chilled and respectful back then...so different to today's overhyped, overstyled programmes
Young ODB !!! Killer
5:30 GZA's freestyle and ODB's-R.I.P. beetboxing is epic :)
5:10 - "Ill give it to ya Raw" ODB...... R.I.P.!! Baby Girl remember that line 4 years from then and probably blushed.
"Shit is too swift to bite you record and write it down"
The one thing I love about this interview is that, That's blood, family. Gza, Rza & ODB. R.I.P. ODB!
Wu-Tang blood kin, for real.
GZA, RZA, and ODB are real-life blood cousins.
#RIPODB
#WuTangForever
👊💜🙏👌💯
Gza a cousin by marriage though..
Woooooooow ! Thanks for posting
The Genius!!!
Woah I always thought RZA did all their production.. Didn't know about Mathematics, he produced so many classics damn
These guys seem pretty good.... I wonder what happened to them lol this is crazy I wonder if Rza was already forming the idea for WU in his mind in 1991 and if they where already working on songs! Because Hip Hop was dying in 1992-94.... then all of a sudden BOOM 90's Hip Hop (The Wu-Tang Era)!!!!!
Enter the 36 dropped in 93..first protect ya neck demo/single popped off in 92
What? Lol
Typo? Hip-hop wasn't dying from '92-94. That was the heart of the Golden Era.
@@ions82 End of, you mean!
@@VincentJNewman I think it was wrapping up by '96 or so. There was still a lot of good work being put out in '95. After '96, good hip-hop wasn't nearly as ubiquitous (but never really disappeared altogether.). Even today, some of the artists considered to be more mainstream are very good.
I WISH I WAS 15 AGAIN-BACK IN '91! MISS THOSE DAYS, CAME UP AT A GREAT TIME!
I love how there is little applaud for the frestyle, proves back then there were high standards..
anyway Gza killed it
haha this is amazing, I would have loved to hang out with these dudes back then
People be talking so much trash about who the guy in the cap is.
That is not meth or cappadona people, it's killah sins older brother who went on to run wu wear. He also played a role in belly.
Brit Lord Oli Power Grant
*FREE KILLAH SIN !!!*
Power
Power?
Could it be Ghostface? He was around in the early pre-Wu days and was also RZAs room mate for a while.
All-In-Together-Now Crew
man i am so envious of you that must have just been incredible.