i hope they will keep going with their gpu in terms of driver and new gpu releases, we really need third party to bring some normality with prices, btw nice wallpaper :D
Got the A770 LE for Christmas from my wife and it's a stunningly beautiful piece of kit. I'm fixing to upgrade to 11th gen and Z590 but I'm currently using it on a Z270 with a 6600K and it's fine, it's great. Excited to see what ReBAR and more CPU power can do though.
@@TheRealNeoFrancois yeah I just kind of wonder how much. Granted the games I play aren't all mainstream AAA (Valheim, MechWarriors 5, 7D2D, etc) but I'm actually seeing better performance than my 1060 6GB even without ReBAR. Stoked to see what gains 11th gen and Z590 gets me.
There was an article on Tom's Hardware that tested it and they concluded the average was about 25% loss of FPS, although the number bumped around between about 5% and 30%. But that was back in October when the drivers were still absolute garbage.
It is a surprising, beautiful box and packaging. It just feels like quality. The rubberized material on the fan shroud is also a nice "touch" it reminds me very much of the rubberized coating on ThinkPad laptops (I am using one now). Anyway, nice unboxing, I like you Camera angle and display in the background. Well done.
Yes ! You got the character 🙂 yeah in my last video I tried it out and I didn't have any problems apart from 1 small issue and 1080p performance could be better when compared to 1440p and 4k.
You got it right with the Resizable BAR enabled from the start. Also yes late Intel CPU is needed. This card rely heavily on CPU. Why there are problems with AMD CPU is pretty clear to me. Different architecture and AMD being the competition of Intel makes it clear it is also better for CPU sales if the Intel GPU works better on a good good Intel CPU. And in my opinion this is a good card that is spot on affordable giving a really good bang for your buck. I've been following the reviews now for sometime and the driver improvements have already come a long way. Arc a770 16gb looks like my choice if the next driver update has the same direction improving the performance. I'm looking for entry level 4k and this seems to have it. 4070ti was the one I was looking but 192 bit memory bus puts it out of the 4k even with DLSS 3. Close but no cigar. What were they thinking? 4080 is just way too expensive. I know the a770 is compared to 3060 and maybe even 3070 but there is some real weirdness with the Arc. 1080p seems rubbish what it should be. 1440p works really good. 4k is playable. I think I have more confidence on Arc than 4070ti to deliver 4k performance because of the 192 bit Memory Bus plus Arc has more VRAM.
I'm an ARC 770 16gb with a 5800 x3d and it plays very well indeed! OH! The MB is MSI X570 Gaming Plus. I forgot to include that the RGB works very well too!
Regarding the RGB on the A770, is the supplied RGB cable required to get the RGB lights to work or can I just use it with out it? Is the cable mainly used for changing the effects when using the RGB Controller software?
@@tomstechtable Thanks Tom. I had a feeling after see the quick glimpses of the card in videos from other reviewers. I can always install the cable in the case as an option which will be less troublesome of taking apart the computer again.
I have a 12600k and a 5800x, it may be my B550, but i cannot get reBAR to work with the A770, i'll have to try on my 3950x system as it is a differnt manufacturer (Asus vs Asrock vs MSI) Odd that my 12400k is also on an asus board like my 5800x, but the rebar section is an on/off instead of enable/disable
@@tomstechtable Yes, and it says "resizable bar enabled" but its not on, on the intel system the toggle is on/off instead of enabled/disabled Both boards are Asus ROG
@@denvera1g1 I mean they kinda mean the same thing so it should be on if it's saying enabled. It also lets you know in the intel arc software if re-bar is enabled or not.
@@tomstechtableThis is where it alerts me that reBAR is supported but not enabled Edit, there was a little pop up every time i let arc control start that i need to turn it on
Um there are some things wrong with this video, and before everyone jumps my case, yeah a bit of what's wrong is MY PERSONAL POINT OF VIEW, so please feel free to get your own, I'm not here to fight. Now let's start off with some basic facts, 1, this guy goes on way to much about packaging, you don't buy a GPU for it's box looks, if it protects the GPU that's all that is needed, if it happens to look cool, bouns but not your entire front half of the very limited review, put it away and calm down fab boy. 2 this card although not the heat producers like perhaps the and 7900 xt and xtx and quite a few nivida GPUs fact remains from how I understand it, theses units are wrapped up on the outside in plastic, thank God for the cooler fans, this can't possibly be great to keep it as cool as possible, don't just think of the cards, think about all heat sources and price range if you buy this card then you must not have had the money for a better competitor, and plastic holds heat, yeah it has fans, but it will probably be sitting in PC case's that have been built on a cheaper budget, not that that's a bad thing in itself, even I find well known components at full price exceedingly hard to swallow, heck by that token, please before you stick it in at least spit on it for us average middle of the road just need it to work and get it done as fast as our budget allows kind of customer, after all we are the section of buyers that keep these guys eating steak while we fix our microwave just so we can eat our hot dogs. So I don't think it's to much to ask for a metal plate on the back to help bring durability up and heat down, or perhaps it's because of my 3rd gripe with these cards. They glue and tape them together, yeah by now this is no secret, Intel actually glued these things together so good luck on getting them apart to do cleaning and a yearly maintenance on them, off this fact alone I can't believe that if you're honest with yourself that you have not come to the same conclusion that I pretty much have, Intel waiting All theses years to jump into the GPU market at the exact time that they did when it was still pretty freaking expensive to buy a decent GPU brand new, and just so anyone that actually is tired to the GPU makers happens to read this and give a crap, your prices still ain't right and now here it is 2023. I'm buying a 6650xt just to play a few games. Figure out a better long term solution or you won't have a market to sell your GPUs in soon. Oh yeah sorry side rant. These cards in my opinion were nothing but a cash grab for Intel, they threw something together for a much cheaper cost. Sent it out into a very volital market to make as much money off of them as they possibly could found out to just sell the things they had to put out a very fast bio's update to even make them usable on a lot of computers. Now RUMORS of Intel thinking of backing out of the GPU market are starting to make their way to consumer ears???!? All this starting to come to light when the GPU market prices are just starting to come back down into a reasonable atmosphere again???? I can't believe I'm the only one who has come up with an Intel creed theory, maybe since they are already out here in the wild, if they sell well enough and get better over time with updates, they may stick around and get more powerful, in which case here's a free tip Intel, don't make them out of all plastic. The last thing that just doesn't seem to fit with this whole Intel GPU thing, is simply this, yeah Intel doesn't do GPUs but they do on board graphics, for a long Long time now. You mean to tell me in all that time they could only learn enough GPU knowledge to put these plastic covered turds on the market???!!! Please don't waste my time.
@@tomstechtable no offense to you or anyone one else I personally have not heard of over temps but short term tests don't always show problems and I video edit so I need to know more than just games, heaven and the big one of course cinibench, I can't find testing more for me dries me nuts, also before I found out that these cards are glued together I was actually going to get one Incase my onboard and GPU died for some reason I just feel very let down we need more than 2 player's but not like this
A gtx 1070 beat this card in benchmarks and works flawlessly in games where arc drivers crash in games and runs slow and requires current hardware to get decent frame rates.
I think it's a decent effort for their first attempt. Though I probably wouldn't recommend them to people with little pc knowledge because of the weirdness here and there. Hopefully drivers change that.
It’s possible but they are still dropping drivers with big improvements regularly. It’s become a pretty good little card, and it seems to be selling well
Even if that's true, at least it means Intel will have no reason to cut the performance by new driver update like some other...Nvidia. 3060 pricing for a 3070-level card that currently performs like a 3060, why not. If I had to buy a card at this price rn, I would much rather not give my money to Nvidia, and I felt I may not be alone.
Really? Pc market is full of people who are trying to find the best price to performance parts, everyone cares about intel arc. Microsoft with windows phone is different because it's a new device with a whole new ecosystem, this isn't
That will depends on how Nvidia responds. If they are dead set to keep their cards prices high and leave the sub 400 dollars market void intel will swoop it up
@@TheQuantumYeet we will see, what AMD has been doing in the past generations, and also this generation, is to price their GPU relative to their performance to Nvidia, so if Nvidia raise their price, AMD's price will creep up too. While the 7900xtx is cheaper than the 4080, the 7900xt might be at the same price as the 4070Ti(the former 4080 12GB) of $899. Based on the 7900xt benchmark and what Nvidia shows in their slides previously, the 7900xt and 4070Ti will be neck to neck, so AMD and Nvidia achieve price and performance parity in this tier, if they maintain this when moving to the lower tier we won't get anywhere close to returning to the pre-crypto prices
i hope they will keep going with their gpu in terms of driver and new gpu releases, we really need third party to bring some normality with prices, btw nice wallpaper :D
How do you have only 79 subscribers but such good quality videos im gonna be your 80th sub
Got the A770 LE for Christmas from my wife and it's a stunningly beautiful piece of kit. I'm fixing to upgrade to 11th gen and Z590 but I'm currently using it on a Z270 with a 6600K and it's fine, it's great. Excited to see what ReBAR and more CPU power can do though.
Rebar definitely helped when I had my 11900k
@@TheRealNeoFrancois yeah I just kind of wonder how much. Granted the games I play aren't all mainstream AAA (Valheim, MechWarriors 5, 7D2D, etc) but I'm actually seeing better performance than my 1060 6GB even without ReBAR. Stoked to see what gains 11th gen and Z590 gets me.
There was an article on Tom's Hardware that tested it and they concluded the average was about 25% loss of FPS, although the number bumped around between about 5% and 30%. But that was back in October when the drivers were still absolute garbage.
Well you should see a fairly sizable increase in performance.
@@tomstechtable I figure, which actually has me excited given it's already doing so well
It is a surprising, beautiful box and packaging. It just feels like quality. The rubberized material on the fan shroud is also a nice "touch" it reminds me very much of the rubberized coating on ThinkPad laptops (I am using one now). Anyway, nice unboxing, I like you Camera angle and display in the background. Well done.
I'ma sub to this man not only for the good review, but so I can help him get famous
Thanks 😂
Grimmjow Jaegerjaquez ,
on the latest drivers its actually pretty good not yet perfect though but at least they're listening and working to improve it
Yes ! You got the character 🙂 yeah in my last video I tried it out and I didn't have any problems apart from 1 small issue and 1080p performance could be better when compared to 1440p and 4k.
8th and 9th gen also support ReBar with certain z390 boards.
You got it right with the Resizable BAR enabled from the start. Also yes late Intel CPU is needed. This card rely heavily on CPU. Why there are problems with AMD CPU is pretty clear to me. Different architecture and AMD being the competition of Intel makes it clear it is also better for CPU sales if the Intel GPU works better on a good good Intel CPU. And in my opinion this is a good card that is spot on affordable giving a really good bang for your buck. I've been following the reviews now for sometime and the driver improvements have already come a long way. Arc a770 16gb looks like my choice if the next driver update has the same direction improving the performance. I'm looking for entry level 4k and this seems to have it. 4070ti was the one I was looking but 192 bit memory bus puts it out of the 4k even with DLSS 3. Close but no cigar. What were they thinking? 4080 is just way too expensive. I know the a770 is compared to 3060 and maybe even 3070 but there is some real weirdness with the Arc. 1080p seems rubbish what it should be. 1440p works really good. 4k is playable. I think I have more confidence on Arc than 4070ti to deliver 4k performance because of the 192 bit Memory Bus plus Arc has more VRAM.
I'm an ARC 770 16gb with a 5800 x3d and it plays very well indeed! OH! The MB is MSI X570 Gaming Plus. I forgot to include that the RGB works very well too!
Very nice ! Hope the RGB is getting you those extra frames 😉
@@tomstechtable Just makes it look pretty. The control panel has a performance feature that does that... Pretty basic But it works!
Regarding the RGB on the A770, is the supplied RGB cable required to get the RGB lights to work or can I just use it with out it? Is the cable mainly used for changing the effects when using the RGB Controller software?
You only need the cable to change colour/effect. Without it the colour is blue.
@@tomstechtable Thanks Tom. I had a feeling after see the quick glimpses of the card in videos from other reviewers. I can always install the cable in the case as an option which will be less troublesome of taking apart the computer again.
mate it's great card i have one because i got sick of the rest over pricing
its way stabke than 7900xtx ....no heating problem or clock drops when running flawed rdna3 chips vs successful chip
I have a 12600k and a 5800x, it may be my B550, but i cannot get reBAR to work with the A770, i'll have to try on my 3950x system as it is a differnt manufacturer (Asus vs Asrock vs MSI)
Odd that my 12400k is also on an asus board like my 5800x, but the rebar section is an on/off instead of enable/disable
With your 5800x, do you have 4g decoding enabled in the bios ? Should be on the same page as the re-bar option.
@@tomstechtable Yes, and it says "resizable bar enabled" but its not on, on the intel system the toggle is on/off instead of enabled/disabled
Both boards are Asus ROG
@@denvera1g1 I mean they kinda mean the same thing so it should be on if it's saying enabled. It also lets you know in the intel arc software if re-bar is enabled or not.
@@tomstechtableThis is where it alerts me that reBAR is supported but not enabled
Edit, there was a little pop up every time i let arc control start that i need to turn it on
I was wondering if you tested out the free D5 render sub that came with this card?
A D5 render sub didn't come with the card for me.
@@tomstechtable oh ok. Thanks anyway.
I have one too and it is almost comparable to RTX 3070 via 3dmark benchmark
Let's get it tom
Let's go !!!
If you're displaying the box your GPU came in - straight up no one is going to be friends with you.
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Great, but I buy a video card for the graphics performance, not to take a selfie with it .
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Um there are some things wrong with this video, and before everyone jumps my case, yeah a bit of what's wrong is MY PERSONAL POINT OF VIEW, so please feel free to get your own, I'm not here to fight.
Now let's start off with some basic facts, 1, this guy goes on way to much about packaging, you don't buy a GPU for it's box looks, if it protects the GPU that's all that is needed, if it happens to look cool, bouns but not your entire front half of the very limited review, put it away and calm down fab boy.
2 this card although not the heat producers like perhaps the and 7900 xt and xtx and quite a few nivida GPUs fact remains from how I understand it, theses units are wrapped up on the outside in plastic, thank God for the cooler fans, this can't possibly be great to keep it as cool as possible, don't just think of the cards, think about all heat sources and price range if you buy this card then you must not have had the money for a better competitor, and plastic holds heat, yeah it has fans, but it will probably be sitting in PC case's that have been built on a cheaper budget, not that that's a bad thing in itself, even I find well known components at full price exceedingly hard to swallow, heck by that token, please before you stick it in at least spit on it for us average middle of the road just need it to work and get it done as fast as our budget allows kind of customer, after all we are the section of buyers that keep these guys eating steak while we fix our microwave just so we can eat our hot dogs.
So I don't think it's to much to ask for a metal plate on the back to help bring durability up and heat down, or perhaps it's because of my 3rd gripe with these cards.
They glue and tape them together, yeah by now this is no secret, Intel actually glued these things together so good luck on getting them apart to do cleaning and a yearly maintenance on them, off this fact alone I can't believe that if you're honest with yourself that you have not come to the same conclusion that I pretty much have, Intel waiting All theses years to jump into the GPU market at the exact time that they did when it was still pretty freaking expensive to buy a decent GPU brand new, and just so anyone that actually is tired to the GPU makers happens to read this and give a crap, your prices still ain't right and now here it is 2023.
I'm buying a 6650xt just to play a few games.
Figure out a better long term solution or you won't have a market to sell your GPUs in soon.
Oh yeah sorry side rant.
These cards in my opinion were nothing but a cash grab for Intel, they threw something together for a much cheaper cost. Sent it out into a very volital market to make as much money off of them as they possibly could found out to just sell the things they had to put out a very fast bio's update to even make them usable on a lot of computers.
Now RUMORS of Intel thinking of backing out of the GPU market are starting to make their way to consumer ears???!?
All this starting to come to light when the GPU market prices are just starting to come back down into a reasonable atmosphere again????
I can't believe I'm the only one who has come up with an Intel creed theory, maybe since they are already out here in the wild, if they sell well enough and get better over time with updates, they may stick around and get more powerful, in which case here's a free tip Intel, don't make them out of all plastic.
The last thing that just doesn't seem to fit with this whole Intel GPU thing, is simply this, yeah Intel doesn't do GPUs but they do on board graphics, for a long Long time now.
You mean to tell me in all that time they could only learn enough GPU knowledge to put these plastic covered turds on the market???!!!
Please don't waste my time.
Fair points, didn't know they were glued. Will be testing in a cheap case so temps will be interesting.
@@tomstechtable no offense to you or anyone one else I personally have not heard of over temps but short term tests don't always show problems and I video edit so I need to know more than just games, heaven and the big one of course cinibench, I can't find testing more for me dries me nuts, also before I found out that these cards are glued together I was actually going to get one Incase my onboard and GPU died for some reason I just feel very let down we need more than 2 player's but not like this
A gtx 1070 beat this card in benchmarks and works flawlessly in games where arc drivers crash in games and runs slow and requires current hardware to get decent frame rates.
It is there first modern semi good gpu,it’s just only going to get better,just need patience
It may have been beat by a 1070 in a few select older titles, but in modern games it will usually outperform a 3060 handily.
I think it's a decent effort for their first attempt. Though I probably wouldn't recommend them to people with little pc knowledge because of the weirdness here and there. Hopefully drivers change that.
Too bad the box doesn't has a slide out compartment for weed...it would be more useful box!
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So ...why did Intel fire the guy who created Arc??? ARC is DEAD..LMAO!
It’s possible but they are still dropping drivers with big improvements regularly. It’s become a pretty good little card, and it seems to be selling well
Yes it's possible but I guess we won't know for sure until it's announced
Even if that's true, at least it means Intel will have no reason to cut the performance by new driver update like some other...Nvidia.
3060 pricing for a 3070-level card that currently performs like a 3060, why not. If I had to buy a card at this price rn, I would much rather not give my money to Nvidia, and I felt I may not be alone.
No one cares about the arc GPUs… they are a little late to the game like Microsoft was with the windows phone 🤣
Really? Pc market is full of people who are trying to find the best price to performance parts, everyone cares about intel arc. Microsoft with windows phone is different because it's a new device with a whole new ecosystem, this isn't
That will depends on how Nvidia responds. If they are dead set to keep their cards prices high and leave the sub 400 dollars market void intel will swoop it up
@@sjneow what about amd and their budget gpu offerings?
@@TheQuantumYeet we will see, what AMD has been doing in the past generations, and also this generation, is to price their GPU relative to their performance to Nvidia, so if Nvidia raise their price, AMD's price will creep up too.
While the 7900xtx is cheaper than the 4080, the 7900xt might be at the same price as the 4070Ti(the former 4080 12GB) of $899. Based on the 7900xt benchmark and what Nvidia shows in their slides previously, the 7900xt and 4070Ti will be neck to neck, so AMD and Nvidia achieve price and performance parity in this tier, if they maintain this when moving to the lower tier we won't get anywhere close to returning to the pre-crypto prices
I dont care for Alchemist I care for Battlemage