1:59:43 "When I'm procrastinating on doing something, it's not so much that I don't like doing the thing, [but rather because] I don't like the feeling of doing something I'm required to do. I don't like that 'homework' feeling." 100% hits home
This is what I learned from the episode: - Be comfortable with failing and even aim for it. - If you want to do something, just do it. - Find a way to minimize friction when trying to build and sustain healthy habits (e.g., listen to podcasts at the gym to make going there more enjoyable). - If you envy someone, try to figure out what you like about them instead of comparing yourself to that person. Identify the next step that will bring you closer to the positive quality you admire. - Envy = appreciation + ego. - Nowadays, when you experience pain, instead of working on it to fix it, you have the technology to make the pain go away. We often use our phones as pacifiers to numb the pain, without actually addressing the underlying issues in our lives. This is how we get stuck. Instead of making meaningful changes in the world, we might express anger by downvoting something or writing negative comments.
@@TheSupernite you're so kind, thank you. I have a tendency to forget things quite often, and I have discovered that leaving comments helps me solidify the information in a more concrete manner.
My first thought is she wrote all of this that ll be forgotten, and why did she do this? She might forget or not But also She might pay it forward or not
I suffered a severe mental health crisis and have been dealing with existential depression every single day for the two years since. I hope this does something for me.
You can do it Jasper. Resources like this are a great tool. You're not broken. Keep pushing and never ever give up. I believe in you. In fact, I know you can overcome it.
This wonderful person is suffering from a severe case of anime hero syndrom, accept defeat, grow, get better, overcome, challenge yourself, I swear he's gonna be the very best, like no one ever was on his pokémon journey
One thing I noticed with this guy, is that he lacks shame. I think that’s the biggest thing, the biggest underlying weight that drags so many people down, and he lacks it. Gives some insight I think into one of the areas people should address first in their lives.
@@Neilad I think it's a great insight, because Tom (and for good reason) interpreted your comment as saying he SHOULD be ashamed, even though I believe you were applauding Che. It's so interesting how we say 'shameless' as an insult, when it should be something, at least from my perspective, to strive for.
1:57:08 I do it too and I just realized I've learned it from having anxiety attacks. When I would have anxiety attacks it would feel like I'm dying, but if I could acknowledge that it was just the anxiety attack making me feel that way then it would make me feel better. So similarly I can acknowledge the procrastination trigger and invert it
I think the worst thing i felt was when I decided to stop going to my undiagnosed (but clearly mentally ill) mothers house, sfter countless hours of neglect and abuse. Finally. Finally i was free… until i went to my dads expecting safety and just got the same treatment, only just a tiny bit different. It sucks cause i can’t do anything about it since i still am not old enough to leave. Like and its sad, cause i always talk about how much i should probably walk away from this family but at the same time thinking that its my fault completely.
To answer the "search for perfect" towards the end, I'm working to stop chasing "perfect" because my ego blows the expectations of what defines "perfect" into impossible territory. I've started referring it more towards "Aim for progress" if that makes sense.
@@marikei2844 I like to define it as "Aim for process". Sometimes I can't measure progress adequately. If I focus on the process then I can take the pressure of "improvement" off my shoulders, and I can rest in whatever I've accomplished, even if I only take the smallest step some days.
1:57:41 I've realized this in relation to willpower. People who haven't used an ounce of willpower in years will try a really strict diet or quitting smoking and obviously end up failing. Instead they should slowly modify their behavior and gradually work their willpower up as well as the behavioral change
1:42:57 I've dealt with depression and social anxiety as well as actual anxiety attacks but I never really sweat stuff like that. Expecting to be as good as people who have practiced more than you is ridiculous. I did parkour for a decade and whenever I would teach people they would compare themselves to me, and it was hilarious. "I'm not that good I can't even do a double backflip!" Bro, you started two months ago. I wasn't as good as you at two months
Worst part at 58 mins, is when your friends you thought were brothers abandon you. All those great times you shared ended up meaningless in the end for me. I still got homies, but after the few that did me dirty, it's hard to recreate those types of great fun times again.
It sounds like your pain is easy to pick up in this post. My heart hurts for you as I feel this is relatable. Please know your value to people doesn't change depending on their ability to appreciate you. I'm hoping that you friendship find love again or are able to grow through this shitty fucking pain.
@@MISNM0 sheeeeew, it happened years ago, and specially after covid, after covid hit, my friend group changed alot, not for the better, it separated us more than I knew. It is what it is, alot of reflection after that, "was it me that caused it?" But in the end, they showed their true colors. I'd rather have seen it then, and not find out later in life they were just snakes in the grass. appreciate you sending some kind words, I really questioned my friends after that, even family.
The expectation of enjoying the journey despite it being a learning curve, setbacks may come, and knowing it takes time to attain mastery is something we all could benefit from. Most are trying to go forward but in such a way not to ‘lose’. Acceptance of enjoying life as it is wonderful skill.
1:46:48 because that's what makes the most sense. Compare yourself to people in a similar position instead of the literal best. You're not going to be Picasso overnight and you shouldn't engage in a hobby if you're only trying to be perfect
This part right here, having a mom who is a little bit of a liar. I've never been able to put it into words why I choose to not be so close to my parents but this is it. 1:05:50
1:45:48 I completely agree with him. I haven't considered what people think about me for probably 20 years and therefore I don't really worry about failure or embarrassment
@@RichardBronosky Yes, we appreciate the whole stream being here, it's nice to get to witness! I also hope he livestreams on TH-cam more and more often.
I think Che might be a person with APHANTASIA. I have that trait and it does make one kind of teflon minded. Aphantasia people are poor at reliving emotions. This makes it that you are always living in the present, you always look at things very in a matter of fact way and not projecting inner feelings and past experiences to things that you encounter. You are one of the rare people who really "see things as they are". For example when most people watch a movie, they project their mind onto it. I see the actual movie as if I was on a field trip observing the nature and picking up things that are actually there. When I step out of the theater, the movie and its atmosphere wear off very quickly, because now I'm outside and observing the street and the people etc. The present again. When I listen to a record I have listened to a thousand times before, it is always new. I always find new things in it, because I'm different than I was the last time I heard it - even if it was just an hour ago.
42:11 If you think grounding yourself in your eventual death is morbid... I ground myself in knowing I will eventually end my life. The only thing in this world that scares me is the idea of having that option taken away from me. ☮️❤️🌈
LMFAO this guy is so funny i didnt like him at the beginning but hes so fun to listen to hes just like you dont feel like go to the gym but just use that and go to the gym, hes such a fucking unit
2:18:15 I think Dr K missed the point. For example, I’m usually envious of things I really cannot have (like becoming tall or pretty). How can you achieve becoming tall?
The solution to that is to realise and accept what you cant control my friendd....you do not have to be really tall to be attractive you know what i mean
In this case, it's definitely your ego. Ask yourself why do you *really* want to be tall. To enjoy better views? Probably not. The thing is that you probably don't want to be tall. What you might want is to be loved, respected, etc. You have an insecurity there and your mind is convincing you that you can't be happy/loved unless you are tall enough. So try looking into yourself and figure out whether this envy is a defense mechanism in disguise.
(2:25:20) Reminds me of Chrono Trigger, the part where the humans are in hiding and have no food. Instead of risking it all to acquire food somehow (because they would die anyway) they found Enertrons (I think they were called) and used those to refill their energy. "But you're still hungry!" Doesn't matter tho, because you can do anything you need to, you just need to deal with the looming fact that there is no food. Maybe I should finish that game.
this guy, who i’m sure is lovely, is…..wholly unrelatable. LOL like i really got to the end of this, simultaneously happy for him + very aware this one just wasn't for me, LOL which is fine! there doesn't always need to be...a take-away for everyone. 🤷🏾♀ i will say! Mr. Never-Experienced-Depression is goals! 🤓 he’s helpful in that his existence is proof of concept. LOL proof that that level of adulting is possible….for some. 😂 good for him! 🖤✊🏾 ETA: I TAKE IT BACK! i do have a "takeaway!" - a reminder that “something” is better than nothing. even though this very much contradicts the, "do it right or don't do it at all" mantra on which i was raised, i do see the benefits in choosing something over nothing. a walk in flip flops vs. no gym//no workout at all. 🤷🏾♀
He is unrelatable because he's too perfect, it didn't seem like he was completely real. We all have our strengths and weaknesses but he only showed the strengths of his personality. He only talked about things that he's naturally good at but avoided talking about his flaws
I feel Che is where more people need to be. And Dr. K is living a programmed “Normal” life. I firmly believe there is no normal. Just enjoy this experience and live your life. All that said, Dr. K is very real and does a great job engaging with Che. Very much Loved this conversation.
Right when he was talking about discord, TH-cam and the ISP not letting him do things like it's haram, my perfect WiFi 6 went down for a minute 😂. Ill take it as a test of patience in my journey for improving my mental health🤣
It’s a little scary, that after watching so many dr. K videos, Che Chad put a lot of things in words I discovered for myself! Every take I was like „omg I feel that!“ „I think and do that exactly like this!“ still missing some, but it was great 😌
Your guest only talked about his strengths and completely hid weaknesses, so it didn't seem real or relatable. We all have strengths and weaknesses, no real person is 100% perfect. And not admitting one's weaknesses is actually also a weakness btw
1:59:43 "When I'm procrastinating on doing something, it's not so much that I don't like doing the thing, [but rather because] I don't like the feeling of doing something I'm required to do. I don't like that 'homework' feeling."
100% hits home
gem
This is what I learned from the episode:
- Be comfortable with failing and even aim for it.
- If you want to do something, just do it.
- Find a way to minimize friction when trying to build and sustain healthy habits (e.g., listen to podcasts at the gym to make going there more enjoyable).
- If you envy someone, try to figure out what you like about them instead of comparing yourself to that person. Identify the next step that will bring you closer to the positive quality you admire.
- Envy = appreciation + ego.
- Nowadays, when you experience pain, instead of working on it to fix it, you have the technology to make the pain go away. We often use our phones as pacifiers to numb the pain, without actually addressing the underlying issues in our lives. This is how we get stuck. Instead of making meaningful changes in the world, we might express anger by downvoting something or writing negative comments.
You are an example of a person we all shall inspire towards. I'm proud of you.
@@TheSupernite you're so kind, thank you. I have a tendency to forget things quite often, and I have discovered that leaving comments helps me solidify the information in a more concrete manner.
My first thought is she wrote all of this that ll be forgotten, and why did she do this?
She might forget or not
But also
She might pay it forward or not
I suffered a severe mental health crisis and have been dealing with existential depression every single day for the two years since. I hope this does something for me.
You can do it Jasper. Resources like this are a great tool. You're not broken. Keep pushing and never ever give up. I believe in you. In fact, I know you can overcome it.
This wonderful person is suffering from a severe case of anime hero syndrom, accept defeat, grow, get better, overcome, challenge yourself, I swear he's gonna be the very best, like no one ever was on his pokémon journey
"It's just another one of those things"
Is what somebody says when they can recognize something bad doesn't necessarily have to do with them
Dr.k's introduction is the sweetest one I've seen in along time. Hes so excited to do what he does, I love that!!
One thing I noticed with this guy, is that he lacks shame. I think that’s the biggest thing, the biggest underlying weight that drags so many people down, and he lacks it. Gives some insight I think into one of the areas people should address first in their lives.
So true, shame shrinks us
It depends on what you're being shameless about.
@@Dimitris_Half The type of shame I’m talking about is internalized shame, generally as a product of abuse or neglect.
@@Neilad I think it's a great insight, because Tom (and for good reason) interpreted your comment as saying he SHOULD be ashamed, even though I believe you were applauding Che. It's so interesting how we say 'shameless' as an insult, when it should be something, at least from my perspective, to strive for.
Stream begins at 39:00
how do you get in the discord
Thanks ❤
Announcements start at 6:50
1:57:08 I do it too and I just realized I've learned it from having anxiety attacks. When I would have anxiety attacks it would feel like I'm dying, but if I could acknowledge that it was just the anxiety attack making me feel that way then it would make me feel better. So similarly I can acknowledge the procrastination trigger and invert it
It's so funny watching Dr. K short circuit from talking to somebody who's this healthy
It's honestly hilarious
@@VSM101 I’m asking the same thing
@@VSM101Sorry you didn't find it funny
So he's just having e-celebs as guests now instead of people who are actually mentally ill?
@SuperLotus I don't see why that is so bad? The most he can do is give advice. People without mental illnesses need help too.
I think the worst thing i felt was when I decided to stop going to my undiagnosed (but clearly mentally ill) mothers house, sfter countless hours of neglect and abuse. Finally. Finally i was free… until i went to my dads expecting safety and just got the same treatment, only just a tiny bit different. It sucks cause i can’t do anything about it since i still am not old enough to leave. Like and its sad, cause i always talk about how much i should probably walk away from this family but at the same time thinking that its my fault completely.
Really enjoyed the closing remarks on envy, and identity, and not wanting anything
To answer the "search for perfect" towards the end, I'm working to stop chasing "perfect" because my ego blows the expectations of what defines "perfect" into impossible territory. I've started referring it more towards "Aim for progress" if that makes sense.
"Practice makes progress" for short.
@@marikei2844 I like to define it as "Aim for process". Sometimes I can't measure progress adequately. If I focus on the process then I can take the pressure of "improvement" off my shoulders, and I can rest in whatever I've accomplished, even if I only take the smallest step some days.
1:57:41 I've realized this in relation to willpower. People who haven't used an ounce of willpower in years will try a really strict diet or quitting smoking and obviously end up failing. Instead they should slowly modify their behavior and gradually work their willpower up as well as the behavioral change
I feel like this is either going to help me or push me further into existential crisis
42:40 I did this way back in middle or high school and I've never really felt worry or anxiety since except for relating to the inevitability of death
1:42:57 I've dealt with depression and social anxiety as well as actual anxiety attacks but I never really sweat stuff like that. Expecting to be as good as people who have practiced more than you is ridiculous. I did parkour for a decade and whenever I would teach people they would compare themselves to me, and it was hilarious. "I'm not that good I can't even do a double backflip!" Bro, you started two months ago. I wasn't as good as you at two months
Worst part at 58 mins, is when your friends you thought were brothers abandon you. All those great times you shared ended up meaningless in the end for me.
I still got homies, but after the few that did me dirty, it's hard to recreate those types of great fun times again.
I'm glad you still got homies....I trust no one after losing my friends, and that was over a year ago. Self inflicted loneliness.
@@monfernova you're not alone
It sounds like your pain is easy to pick up in this post. My heart hurts for you as I feel this is relatable.
Please know your value to people doesn't change depending on their ability to appreciate you.
I'm hoping that you friendship find love again or are able to grow through this shitty fucking pain.
@@MISNM0 sheeeeew, it happened years ago, and specially after covid, after covid hit, my friend group changed alot, not for the better, it separated us more than I knew.
It is what it is, alot of reflection after that, "was it me that caused it?" But in the end, they showed their true colors. I'd rather have seen it then, and not find out later in life they were just snakes in the grass.
appreciate you sending some kind words, I really questioned my friends after that, even family.
@@yolover111
Sheeeiiiitttt.... echo to that but also damn.
"Everone has died, very successfully."🤣🤣🤣🤣
46:14 I see so many people with that and they end up never doing anything that they are interested in because of it
Great and insightful conversation! Just wanted to say I love the music at the beginning 🤍
The expectation of enjoying the journey despite it being a learning curve, setbacks may come, and knowing it takes time to attain mastery is something we all could benefit from. Most are trying to go forward but in such a way not to ‘lose’. Acceptance of enjoying life as it is wonderful skill.
I wish I could take on his perspective. Rather than being motivating, knowing I’m gonna die makes me think “why do anything at all?”
i've noticed that a lot of comedians are like incredibly smart
1:46:48 because that's what makes the most sense. Compare yourself to people in a similar position instead of the literal best. You're not going to be Picasso overnight and you shouldn't engage in a hobby if you're only trying to be perfect
It’s a pleasure to listen to conversation like this
This part right here, having a mom who is a little bit of a liar. I've never been able to put it into words why I choose to not be so close to my parents but this is it. 1:05:50
I've missed these long ass videos man
Gonna watch this video like 5 times , this was an amazing ❤
1:45:48 I completely agree with him. I haven't considered what people think about me for probably 20 years and therefore I don't really worry about failure or embarrassment
48:37 Being scared to do something new wrong is completely irrational. Odds are you're not going to be perfect at anything you do for the first time
Please continue to upload whole streams.
He didn't upload it, he Livestreamed right here on TH-cam in the first place!
@@VioletEmerald is correct. But I think the important concept is that OP (and others) appreciate the raw imperfection.
@@RichardBronosky Yes, we appreciate the whole stream being here, it's nice to get to witness! I also hope he livestreams on TH-cam more and more often.
"What if I do it wrong?"
That's better than not doing it at all
Dr.K when someone being completely irrational -
"haaa yess"
Dr.K when someone being completely rational -
"What the fuck man"
Most people act irrational, or have some irrational thinking. Hearing somebody do exactly what everyone thinks they should do is a bit jarring hsha😂
this dude is super smart and easy to listen to.
Death is so freeing....... once you break the essence of it down.....It's quite liberating.
One Love!
Always forward, never ever backward!!
☀️☀️☀️
💚💛❤️
🙏🏿🙏🙏🏼
1:45:08 I'm like Che so interacting with people who don't work like me sometimes causes head bumping
Just find out my mom has cirrhosis of the liver and need to put in hospis, then i see this....
I’m so sorry to hear that. Do you wanna talk?
I think Che might be a person with APHANTASIA. I have that trait and it does make one kind of teflon minded. Aphantasia people are poor at reliving emotions. This makes it that you are always living in the present, you always look at things very in a matter of fact way and not projecting inner feelings and past experiences to things that you encounter. You are one of the rare people who really "see things as they are". For example when most people watch a movie, they project their mind onto it. I see the actual movie as if I was on a field trip observing the nature and picking up things that are actually there. When I step out of the theater, the movie and its atmosphere wear off very quickly, because now I'm outside and observing the street and the people etc. The present again. When I listen to a record I have listened to a thousand times before, it is always new. I always find new things in it, because I'm different than I was the last time I heard it - even if it was just an hour ago.
Yo, that pawn analogy was bomb... Gonna borrow that
shout out to setting timers and alarms to keep yourself accountable
1:56:11 Che is a stand-up comedian after all, get it? I’ll show myself out
Haha! I have already watched the stream, and I know what this refers to without watching the timestamp 😂
1:41:23 Actually the 50-year-old had 10 years experience, not new
It's easy to be happy when you act in a way that everyone else would consider self centered.
But you gotta commit to it.
38:52 is when Che connects
1:52:48 I do something extremely similar to this and it's hilarious seeing how it breaks Dr K's brain
42:11 If you think grounding yourself in your eventual death is morbid... I ground myself in knowing I will eventually end my life. The only thing in this world that scares me is the idea of having that option taken away from me. ☮️❤️🌈
@@RedGoop89 I left a thoughtful reply. Seems it got filtered.
LMFAO this guy is so funny i didnt like him at the beginning but hes so fun to listen to hes just like you dont feel like go to the gym but just use that and go to the gym, hes such a fucking unit
he just WALKED away he was STANDING the whole time? HAHAHAH holy shit man this guys a beast
1:37:02 I think it's the opposite of Chad mode. You wouldn't be scared to do these things if people didn't put it inside of you
Starts at 39:00
2:18:15 I think Dr K missed the point. For example, I’m usually envious of things I really cannot have (like becoming tall or pretty). How can you achieve becoming tall?
The solution to that is to realise and accept what you cant control my friendd....you do not have to be really tall to be attractive you know what i mean
I mean... There's a surgery for that 😂 But then that's about how much you want it ... Cutting your leg and all...
In this case, it's definitely your ego. Ask yourself why do you *really* want to be tall. To enjoy better views? Probably not. The thing is that you probably don't want to be tall. What you might want is to be loved, respected, etc. You have an insecurity there and your mind is convincing you that you can't be happy/loved unless you are tall enough. So try looking into yourself and figure out whether this envy is a defense mechanism in disguise.
(2:25:20) Reminds me of Chrono Trigger, the part where the humans are in hiding and have no food. Instead of risking it all to acquire food somehow (because they would die anyway) they found Enertrons (I think they were called) and used those to refill their energy. "But you're still hungry!" Doesn't matter tho, because you can do anything you need to, you just need to deal with the looming fact that there is no food. Maybe I should finish that game.
1:39:21 "keeping up appearances adds no value to life" I realized that in high school and I keep forgetting other people don't think that way 😂
Hqvent got into yet but just had to say i think Che is a cool dude. I remember him from that most amazing top 10 show on youtube🤙
this guy, who i’m sure is lovely, is…..wholly unrelatable. LOL like i really got to the end of this, simultaneously happy for him + very aware this one just wasn't for me, LOL which is fine! there doesn't always need to be...a take-away for everyone. 🤷🏾♀
i will say! Mr. Never-Experienced-Depression is goals! 🤓
he’s helpful in that his existence is proof of concept. LOL proof that that level of adulting is possible….for some. 😂
good for him! 🖤✊🏾
ETA: I TAKE IT BACK!
i do have a "takeaway!" - a reminder that “something” is better than nothing. even though this very much contradicts the, "do it right or don't do it at all" mantra on which i was raised, i do see the benefits in choosing something over nothing.
a walk in flip flops vs. no gym//no workout at all. 🤷🏾♀
He is unrelatable because he's too perfect, it didn't seem like he was completely real. We all have our strengths and weaknesses but he only showed the strengths of his personality. He only talked about things that he's naturally good at but avoided talking about his flaws
Dear K, even the tiny spotted bush spider in Zimbabwe can see you're an extravert LOLz
50:39 My girlfriend hates it when I do that. ☮️❤️🌈
I tried skipping forward from the beginning to the actual convo. Landed on 11:56
How did envy come up as something to work on from a conversation with Che but not Ludwig?
Chadurena ftw!
The sitting & the standing talk… 😅😅
Bro is David Goggins with an Afro
This dude is me on antidepressants and then being off them makes me way too sensitive and vulnerable and risk averse
Sadhguru! Yeah!
Ego dies with the body, experience stick with the consciousness?
I feel Che is where more people need to be. And Dr. K is living a programmed “Normal” life. I firmly believe there is no normal. Just enjoy this experience and live your life. All that said, Dr. K is very real and does a great job engaging with Che. Very much Loved this conversation.
Wanted to add. Everything is perfect. Find acceptance with compassion and Love in all. Hate is only poison.
1:04:00 is that rationality or your parents having shown you that money matters more than your feelings?
2:07:20 for myself, about envy.
Yes
What's the timestamp for Che's 5 Dailies?
1:58:20
Right when he was talking about discord, TH-cam and the ISP not letting him do things like it's haram, my perfect WiFi 6 went down for a minute 😂. Ill take it as a test of patience in my journey for improving my mental health🤣
!Mindful
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It’s a little scary, that after watching so many dr. K videos, Che Chad put a lot of things in words I discovered for myself! Every take I was like „omg I feel that!“ „I think and do that exactly like this!“ still missing some, but it was great 😌
01:03:15 Same xD
Your guest only talked about his strengths and completely hid weaknesses, so it didn't seem real or relatable. We all have strengths and weaknesses, no real person is 100% perfect. And not admitting one's weaknesses is actually also a weakness btw
Yo make a 2 hour video where you talk about nothing with that one yogi sad guru