Reference Recording: Debussy's Nocturnes

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  • Debussy: Nocturnes. Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra, Bernard Haitink (cond.) Philips (Decca)
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  • @hiphurrah1
    @hiphurrah1 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    A real classic, the orchestra sounds amazing transparent (those strings....), and the recording is wonderful in capturing the atmosphere and acoustics of the Concertgebouw The producer Volker Straus knew the hall inside out and worked closely with Haitink. Never been bettered!

  • @LyleFrancisDelp
    @LyleFrancisDelp 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    HAHA...only people of our era can really get the "East German Women's Swim Team" reference.

  • @sleepjar7013
    @sleepjar7013 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I own a Phillips Duo disc of Debussy/Haitink which contains this and is all-around excellent. I think the Penguin Guide awarded it a rosette. Great stuff!

    • @neilford99
      @neilford99 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yes it did!

    • @jdeeside
      @jdeeside 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A brilliant set

  • @brianthomas2434
    @brianthomas2434 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    Obviously I'm a sick puppy.
    I have this perverse urge to hear this Maazel recording.....

    • @bplonutube
      @bplonutube 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I don’t think you’ll find anything objection of all about it.

  • @fredcasden
    @fredcasden 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    'The East German swim team.' You gotta luvit.

  • @sjc1204
    @sjc1204 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This recording is my #1 for Nocturnes and I'm always able to be mesmerized by the imagery RCO and Haitink create.
    I also very much like Boulez's recordings and Salonen's with Los Angeles (Sony).

  • @curseofmillhaven1057
    @curseofmillhaven1057 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Absolutely fantastic recording. I still have the original lp, with its evocative Whistler cover, and beautifully quiet Dutch pressing. Whilst I think my first exposure to The Nocturnes was Abbado and the Boston Symphony on DG (no slouch in performance terms, with an absolutely knockout Fetes - that Boston brass!) Haitink was just 'the one' and still is.

    • @petertaplin4365
      @petertaplin4365 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I loved the Abbado too, the LP released in its own lavish box as I remember. For me, that's 'the other' reference version!

  • @steveevans6241
    @steveevans6241 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There is just such a beautiful flow on this record from Haitink & the Amsterdammers, Debussy at his most immersive, perfectly captured in glowing analogue sound, just before the industry got varnished in brittle digital wash.

  • @robhaynes4410
    @robhaynes4410 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    East German women's swim team! 🤣 That Maazel recording is very weird, as was usual for him. It's interesting how often the women's chorus is an issue (for me, anyway). The sirens are supposed to be seductive, sensual, irresistible. In one of my favorite Nocturnes, Abbado with Boston, the chorus sounds more like a 1950s finishing school glee club: chaste, virginal, asexual. Haitink gets the balance right. One of the most seductive choruses is the Philharmonia Chorus in Geoffrey Simon's completely overlooked recording. One never knows where one will find seduction!

  • @hiphurrah1
    @hiphurrah1 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Hefty Hausfrau types! 😂

  • @johnwright7557
    @johnwright7557 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Still the best in my book for both the Nocturnes and Jeux!

  • @wolfgangechelmeyer7597
    @wolfgangechelmeyer7597 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Dear Dave,
    thanks again for this delighting and enlightening series.
    Dave, is there anything like a Reference Recording of J. Haydn's complete piano concertos? ...and if not, could Matthias Kirschnereit's recording with the Würtembergisches Kammerorchester by Berlin Classics be one in your ears??

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      There is no reference recording for those works.

  • @tedwilson2805
    @tedwilson2805 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Would love to hear your pick of Reference Recording for Tapiola, by Sibelius. And also a New Reference Recording, if it exists!

  • @adesiana2
    @adesiana2 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is a great recording and maybe nr. 1 to choose, but I wouldn't want to be without Abbado, Boulez and one favorite: Giulini with Philharmonia Orchestra.

  • @LyleFrancisDelp
    @LyleFrancisDelp 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I must confess, my first recording of Nocturnes was Inbal on Philips...purchased very cheap at a damage sale while in college. They're nice but not very characterful. Inbal had his chance with Philips, and just didn't produce sales. His recordings were OK..just...OK. I think he fared much better with Denon.
    Of course, I've since moved on to much better Nocturnes.

  • @edwinbaumgartner5045
    @edwinbaumgartner5045 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now I am puzzled. When I bought my first recording of "Nocturnes" many years ago (on vinyl), the classic-specialised shop owner said that Barbirolli would be THE choice. I have it here in EMI-sleeve with a picture of rocks in the sea ("La mer" being on the other side of the disk). Wasn't that a reference?

    • @DavesClassicalGuide
      @DavesClassicalGuide  16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Good heavens, no! Not ever! Never. Nichts! Nein!

  • @ahartify
    @ahartify 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I must listen to the East German hausfraus!

  • @user-iy1lz6jo4d
    @user-iy1lz6jo4d 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    “Hefty Hausfrau types…” 😆😂

  • @richardguenther5117
    @richardguenther5117 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nice coincidence: Jeux was performed for the first time on this day 111 years ago. Jeuxters ought to know I think.

  • @donaldcramer2484
    @donaldcramer2484 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Beware the Jeuxsters haha!

  • @bobflagg8917
    @bobflagg8917 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Reference and best for me is Ormandy/Philadelphia Orchestra with great sound on the Sony Japan version and should be in one of the Ormandy stereo boxes.

  • @b1i2l336
    @b1i2l336 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Van Beinum's with the same orchestra is far superior to Haitink's. I also think Abbado/Boston and Stokowski/LSO are more sensuously beautiful. Yes, I know, the Reference Recording need not be the "best."