I have the G8 GXP (the older version of the ss but with the same engine). This race puts a big smile on my face :).. looking forward for more races in this car!
@@dautolover Maybe when the chip shortage is long gone and the market calms down, values will decrease some, but really not sure. The Pontiac G8 was a very similar car to the SS. The G8 GXP is the most desired.
My guys right there! Terrific!! Love to see how close these cars are. The V8 walk near the end of each run is predictable but still super satisfying. James's Jag is NO joke though. Still hoping we can line up the Q50 RS vs the Jag at some point seeing how close I was able to hang with the SS when it was my turn :) Great work as usual.
@@JP35303 that would be epic. We do find that this location has pretty coarse asphalt and generally we're amateur racers. The possibility of stone chips and close proximity racing has its risks. These are privately owned cars after all. Heats would be the way to go I'd think, with the Red Sport taking it.
Thanks again Sam, it was such a great day and I am thrilled I got to line up against the SS! I couldn’t believe how well that thing hooked up - hardly any advantage from the AWD. Hopefully Jim and I can get a Q50RS vs XE run in before the snow falls!
I have a 2018 Jaguar XE 35t AWD. It’s fucking awesome and fast as hell. You don’t see allot of jags, even fewer XE’s and even less XE 35t AWD. I found one with 9400 miles and only $30,000 in Texas.
Nice comparison! Was unexpected to see this video as I’m looking for XE S videos and I’m in Australia btw I think you mean it’s badge swapped to Chevy as it’s a Holden commodore made in Australia.
That Jaguar isn't tuned. A stock 2017 XE 35t S is 380. Mine IS tuned with a crank pulley and I'm pushing 470hp. If the Jaguar were tuned it would have smoked the SS. They should have tried the V8 Jaguar XE (Project 8) vs the V8 SS, although it would exactly be a good or fair race.
That's it. I subscribed. Most fun channel in my opinion. Right to the point, no BS. With that said, my wife has the XE 35T AWD as well. In USA, we had to wait until 2018 XE-S to get the 380HP version. Double check my thinking, but that XE in '17 is the 340 HP version. Unless you are talking about the Tune. What Tune did they get? Can he list the mods and Tune? I would love to do some crazy stuff to my wife's when she is least expecting it. HAHA! Love the content.
Hey man, only mods are the tune and a resonator delete. Tune is through VAP. Replaced stock map with the stock XE-S tune. Seems very similar to the 416hp tune though.
@@badderup9668 How can it make more power with no physical pulley changes to make more boost? I don’t know how a map alone makes the difference as the 380 in the UK makes more boost than the 340 to get that extra power. To get 450 plus you require a smaller charger pulley and larger crank pulley and larger intercooler,better air filters THEN the remap. I think that thing is running 100% standard 340 bhp.
@@Buck3366 you can only get around 15 more hp with a tune alone, if you don't want to do the pully upgrade the gearbox tune will feel like a bigger upgrade thana stage 1 tune by itself.
im pretty sure 380hp is the stock figure for the xe so im not sure what's tuned on the xe. when the xe is tuned with a pully update and a map they normally run 450-500hp not a bad figure for just a single bolt on and map out of a 3.0 tbf.
Something about people rebadging the SS rubs me the wrong way. The car is already rare but when you through Holden badges on it people are even more confused. But maybe that is what owners want though. Its not like people really did it to the Holden GTO. Oh well.... RIP Pontiac and Holden
If it didn’t pull off the line, it will fall behind. Yes you know I’m biased with the Holden. Besides it’s worth grows with age like fine wine. Holden 🇦🇺 love.
I called it. I was pretty sure itbwas going to be the Chevy SS. I have a modded G8 GT and that thing is crazy fast so I put my money on my cars big brother.
i think these SSs need some speed before they really get going. i raced one in my stock 540i and i was neck and neck with him. guess he would have pulled if we went faster.
I have an SS, and the first thing that I always take away from the "spirited runs in Mexico" are that these cars with FI and AWD are great out of the hole, but the SS eventually reels them in unless it's an AWD or FI V8. At one point I contemplated getting an Audi RS3 until I ran one and had similar results as the video above. The V8 has long legs. Thanks for showcasing the SS, but straight line performance is only half of what makes the SS great. Try it in the twisties and you'll be even more impressed.
@@robpr315 I know it says tuned R-Sport, but they made two versions: the R-Sport (340hp) and the S (380). Same engine, just different factory tunes. I didn't see any badging on the car to differentiate if it was actually an R-Sport or an S. Now I may be wrong, but I researched for almost a year before I purchased a tune and pulley for mine, and I don't know of any "accredited tune" that gave only 40 more hp, however, I did see a lot of very disappointed people on a few forums, who used cheap knock off "tunes" claim they seem to make the car lose power. The only 3 tunes I would trust is VAP, Euro Toys, or Arden. Sidenote: on paper the stock XE has a better 0-60 and 1/4 mile time, although they are fairly close. Sorry, I didn't mean to write a book. Have a blessed day!
I can't think of a single advantage the G8 GT would have over the SS and why you think it'd be a good race. Now a G8 GT vs a first gen CTS-V would be a good match up.
@@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049 So a car that weighs the same with a smaller motor and 55 less hp is a good race because it costs less and "looks better"? You keep telling yourself that Penny. A V1 would be a much better race for the poverty Commodore. Seriously though, the G8 GT dyno's about 300rwp. My SS baselined at 368 with a CAI. Nearly 70 more hp AT THE WHEELS and you think it would be a good race. If the G8 had a cam, full exhaust, and a converter would it even remotely be worth the gas to line a G8 up with an SS.
@@caseybrannon4975 No but they have tested cars that aren't equally matched sometimes to see the outcome due to weight Could be interesting given a tune could solve a lot of issues. And if you knew anything about cars then you'd know that that is called power to weight ratio 😑 55 less hp isn't a huge difference with a tune and exhaust on most v8s.
I lined up against a G8 (not a GXP) at Cayuga way back in the late 2000's. I had (and still have) a Hemi Magnum RT. I took him easy off the lights but he reeled me in by the end of the traps. it was neck and neck but he may have gotten me by a hair, I don't recall exactly. We're talking high 13's in the low 100's way back then.
Apples to apples would be to compare the 8Cyl XE, not the 6Cyl. The 8Cyl Jaguar XE, called Project 8 and sporting nearly 600HP, would destroy that lil' SS. My 6Cyl 2017 XE 35T puts out 553HP on E85, that SS would have zero chance against my XE.
This was a fair comparison. That jag is supercharged and making way more power id hope so. Compare it to the supercharged HSV Holden and its still taking a L.
It's hard to believe that they put that high-powered V8 engine in a low-end Chevrolet Malibu that has no appeal whatsoever.. It was a very poor rated unpopular body style that they changed soon after it came in production.
@@layne4376 I looked the car over carefully.. The front end resembles the police car Caprice model that they used for a few years during that time.. The back end looks like the Malibu that was a terrible flop and very cheaply made. It is really a hybrid of two uninspiring cars. It's just too bad they put a body on it like that... They're so many other ones that would have been more favorable. I know the car runs well however it is a very homely looking car..
@@lyndoncobb7077 The Malibu/Chevelle was a notable car back in the 1960s and early seventies.. They were really power houses with big block v8s and they had beautiful body styles as well..after that they became very cheap and poorly made in comparison with the other GM cars.. They were reduced to shame the same way the mustang suffered with a design of the mustang ll 🐎.. However the Malibu was not quite as bad as the Mustang Il .It was terrible..🤮
@@charlesjackson1700 cheaply made? The cost does not reflect the build quality. It's the best rwd v8 sedan for anywhere near the price it was sold for. It didn't sell because Chevrolet didn't spend anywhere near enough to market it. If they did, sales would have seen Chevrolet import the HSV versions including the LSA powered GTSR, and possibly the LS9 powered GTSR W1. Look up those cars to see what North America could have had.
That jag launched as a GARBAGE if is more or less at the level with an RWD car on regular asphalt. I would try to build way more brake boost on it, just to be able to keep still from brakes, maybe some 2800rpm's. I've launched properly Subaru and Audi from 4000rpm's and always were bullit start there on regular asphalt. On vht sometimes driveshaft broken occurs, especially for over 600nm cars.
Wouldn’t mind seeing the same Jaguar against a Kia stinger
I have the G8 GXP (the older version of the ss but with the same engine). This race puts a big smile on my face :).. looking forward for more races in this car!
Nice car
Got a Caprice with the L77 LL Holden 🦁 🇦🇺 the G8 brought back my love for the sedans again after they stopped the 96 SS.
Yo gxp tuned is like fast as or faster then hellcats.
Same engine with less power
@@coolsquad7428 both have LS3 and rated 415hp. Actually, I have the Australian version rated at 425hp 😅
I've always liked the SS, and it's market value has really started to climb these days.
I missed my chance to get one when they were around 30-35k (USD). I haven't seen any example dip below 40k nowadays.
@@dautolover
Maybe when the chip shortage is long gone and the market calms down, values will decrease some, but really not sure. The Pontiac G8 was a very similar car to the SS. The G8 GXP is the most desired.
I’ve seen one for 50k😬. But that is one of the rarest cars that Chevy made.
They’re dime a dozen down here in Aus but as Holden is no longer manufacturing the prices are creeping up.
Caprice PPV is the poor mans take you can customize to your liking. The L77 motor is pure bliss and stout. Love it.
My guys right there! Terrific!! Love to see how close these cars are. The V8 walk near the end of each run is predictable but still super satisfying. James's Jag is NO joke though. Still hoping we can line up the Q50 RS vs the Jag at some point seeing how close I was able to hang with the SS when it was my turn :) Great work as usual.
Yes the red sport Q50 with the Jaguar and the Kia stinger would all be a good race . Line all three up at the same time
@@JP35303 that would be epic. We do find that this location has pretty coarse asphalt and generally we're amateur racers. The possibility of stone chips and close proximity racing has its risks. These are privately owned cars after all. Heats would be the way to go I'd think, with the Red Sport taking it.
That was a great race! Very unique and entertaining!
Excellent matchup!
Sam you the man!!!! The Chevy SS is hard to find let alone someone driving it that far!!! Awesome job!
Thanks again Sam, it was such a great day and I am thrilled I got to line up against the SS! I couldn’t believe how well that thing hooked up - hardly any advantage from the AWD. Hopefully Jim and I can get a Q50RS vs XE run in before the snow falls!
I would live to see the Jag properly tuned by Velocityap the have a tune and pulley that really wakes that car up can't wait to order mine.
Good run man
That was a fun match up. I always enjoy seeing the Chevy SS.
Sam Its awesome that you showcase the owners of the car's.
Very good race!
Sam u need to get the chevy ss vs the 392 charger definitely something many of us want to see
I love both of these cars!
Super rare car for Canada 🇨🇦
I fell in love as soon as I saw it!!!
I really like the XE. Pretty rare car.
I think it's cute
I have a 2018 Jaguar XE 35t AWD. It’s fucking awesome and fast as hell. You don’t see allot of jags, even fewer XE’s and even less XE 35t AWD. I found one with 9400 miles and only $30,000 in Texas.
@@tffury2007attack sweet deal. I like that they’re not common. They look great and sound great as well. Enjoy it!
I just did mine....VAP Pulley and tune
@@JB-om1hp what tune? I have one now I’m wanting to throw a tune on
Nice comparison! Was unexpected to see this video as I’m looking for XE S videos and I’m in Australia btw I think you mean it’s badge swapped to Chevy as it’s a Holden commodore made in Australia.
Very close!! Nice match
I hope for more videos with the SS
Thank you sam :)
Great races Sam! When is the Fusion Sport video dropping?
Would be nice if we can have some exhaust note from both cars prior to the race.
Still looking forward to that accord 2.0T vs TLX V6 Aspec SH-AWD
I will have that SS next yr I'm determined
That would test the difference between twin turbos and a supercharger? What do you say ?
I keep missing out on good deals to buy used Chevy SS’s. One day. If only GM made a full size sedan of the CT5 for the Chevy brand.
I feel like i lucked out when i bought my 6MT back in June for low $40k
Good race that SS with that Top End, but really good for the Jaguar I actually wasn't expecting to be this close of a race!! 💯
Jag 3.5 tuned
@@Dm-py5sptt Wow that is respectable. Wonder if he is just on a basemap?
That Jaguar isn't tuned. A stock 2017 XE 35t S is 380. Mine IS tuned with a crank pulley and I'm pushing 470hp. If the Jaguar were tuned it would have smoked the SS. They should have tried the V8 Jaguar XE (Project 8) vs the V8 SS, although it would exactly be a good or fair race.
Put on headers and a cam i will really wake up the ss 🤷♂️ just did it with mine
That's it. I subscribed. Most fun channel in my opinion. Right to the point, no BS. With that said, my wife has the XE 35T AWD as well. In USA, we had to wait until 2018 XE-S to get the 380HP version. Double check my thinking, but that XE in '17 is the 340 HP version. Unless you are talking about the Tune. What Tune did they get? Can he list the mods and Tune? I would love to do some crazy stuff to my wife's when she is least expecting it. HAHA! Love the content.
Hey man, only mods are the tune and a resonator delete. Tune is through VAP. Replaced stock map with the stock XE-S tune. Seems very similar to the 416hp tune though.
@@badderup9668 How can it make more power with no physical pulley changes to make more boost? I don’t know how a map alone makes the difference as the 380 in the UK makes more boost than the 340 to get that extra power. To get 450 plus you require a smaller charger pulley and larger crank pulley and larger intercooler,better air filters THEN the remap. I think that thing is running 100% standard 340 bhp.
@@Buck3366 you can only get around 15 more hp with a tune alone, if you don't want to do the pully upgrade the gearbox tune will feel like a bigger upgrade thana stage 1 tune by itself.
That top end baby v8
Close match up
im pretty sure 380hp is the stock figure for the xe so im not sure what's tuned on the xe. when the xe is tuned with a pully update and a map they normally run 450-500hp not a bad figure for just a single bolt on and map out of a 3.0 tbf.
And General Motors actually stopped making these AWESOME Holden Commodores!!!
Sam I’m in USA and that SS is even rare for me 😅. No matter where u are u just don’t seem to see much of them
Tuned S6 4.0t for a upcoming video
Chevy SS is gonna win more power and its V8 and its not much with this jaguar XE v6 it should be the Jagur xj50 V8 its a good much for the Chevy SS.
Think I may tune my f pace now very impressive for just a tune and no pulley swap
most likely its just a stage 1 tune as well as for stage 2 you do need to pulley swap it
We need to see a Chevy SS vs a Lincoln MKS 3.0T please.👌🏽
The stock Jag is faster than the MKZ
Just a few inches … more like 3 car lengths and growing.
Something about people rebadging the SS rubs me the wrong way. The car is already rare but when you through Holden badges on it people are even more confused. But maybe that is what owners want though. Its not like people really did it to the Holden GTO. Oh well.... RIP Pontiac and Holden
wait until you hear it was sold as a Vauxhall in the Uk 😂
If it didn’t pull off the line, it will fall behind. Yes you know I’m biased with the Holden. Besides it’s worth grows with age like fine wine. Holden 🇦🇺 love.
I called it. I was pretty sure itbwas going to be the Chevy SS. I have a modded G8 GT and that thing is crazy fast so I put my money on my cars big brother.
The ss is a sexy car
Q50s (silver sport) vs civic type r
i think these SSs need some speed before they really get going. i raced one in my stock 540i and i was neck and neck with him. guess he would have pulled if we went faster.
Should find a RWD XE-S, lighter, less drivetrain loss.
I don’t think the XE was sold in Canada with RWD actually. I’ve never seen one at least…
Man, 415 hp out of a 6.2ltr V8? Not hating, but my God there is room for improvement in that engine!
In the Corvette and Camaro, it goes up to 455 I believe it is
If the jag was rwd it really would've been a nice race but it's still held it's own
@@Dm-py5sptt oh I know, I was saying as a option to have it by itself .
I have a 17 rwd 3.5
Where are you located I wanna test my car out
Toronto
Chevy ! All American 🇺🇸
Those Jags are really detuned from factory due to emmision regulations.
Stage 1 tune opens them up without any hardware.
The title suggests that the Jag is tuned, but there isn't much more information provided about what kind of tune.
Gah! I love the SS content, but it's killing me that it's the auto.
Don't mess with the SS !!!
I have an SS, and the first thing that I always take away from the "spirited runs in Mexico" are that these cars with FI and AWD are great out of the hole, but the SS eventually reels them in unless it's an AWD or FI V8. At one point I contemplated getting an Audi RS3 until I ran one and had similar results as the video above. The V8 has long legs. Thanks for showcasing the SS, but straight line performance is only half of what makes the SS great. Try it in the twisties and you'll be even more impressed.
The Jaguar isn't tuned. 380 is stock for a 2017 XE S. Mine IS tuned pushing 470hp
@@JB-om1hp The title says "Chevrolet SS vs Tuned Jaguar XE 35 R".
@@robpr315 I know it says tuned R-Sport, but they made two versions: the R-Sport (340hp) and the S (380). Same engine, just different factory tunes. I didn't see any badging on the car to differentiate if it was actually an R-Sport or an S. Now I may be wrong, but I researched for almost a year before I purchased a tune and pulley for mine, and I don't know of any "accredited tune" that gave only 40 more hp, however, I did see a lot of very disappointed people on a few forums, who used cheap knock off "tunes" claim they seem to make the car lose power. The only 3 tunes I would trust is VAP, Euro Toys, or Arden.
Sidenote: on paper the stock XE has a better 0-60 and 1/4 mile time, although they are fairly close.
Sorry, I didn't mean to write a book. Have a blessed day!
V8s gonna do V8 things
I'll say again pontiac g8 gt vs the ss same car different bits.
I can't think of a single advantage the G8 GT would have over the SS and why you think it'd be a good race.
Now a G8 GT vs a first gen CTS-V would be a good match up.
@@caseybrannon4975 g8 gt more affordable looks better and it's still a LS so yes it's a good race inspector gadget.
@@lsjionredlinesupercharged2049
So a car that weighs the same with a smaller motor and 55 less hp is a good race because it costs less and "looks better"? You keep telling yourself that Penny.
A V1 would be a much better race for the poverty Commodore.
Seriously though, the G8 GT dyno's about 300rwp. My SS baselined at 368 with a CAI. Nearly 70 more hp AT THE WHEELS and you think it would be a good race. If the G8 had a cam, full exhaust, and a converter would it even remotely be worth the gas to line a G8 up with an SS.
@@caseybrannon4975 No but they have tested cars that aren't equally matched sometimes to see the outcome due to weight Could be interesting given a tune could solve a lot of issues. And if you knew anything about cars then you'd know that that is called power to weight ratio 😑 55 less hp isn't a huge difference with a tune and exhaust on most v8s.
I lined up against a G8 (not a GXP) at Cayuga way back in the late 2000's. I had (and still have) a Hemi Magnum RT. I took him easy off the lights but he reeled me in by the end of the traps. it was neck and neck but he may have gotten me by a hair, I don't recall exactly. We're talking high 13's in the low 100's way back then.
The jag sounds like a is350 with bolt on exhaust
You crazy
@@winstonsmith2228 🤪
Apples to apples would be to compare the 8Cyl XE, not the 6Cyl. The 8Cyl Jaguar XE, called Project 8 and sporting nearly 600HP, would destroy that lil' SS. My 6Cyl 2017 XE 35T puts out 553HP on E85, that SS would have zero chance against my XE.
or Xf, Im also wondering how well is the reliability on the jaguars and landrovers
This was a fair comparison. That jag is supercharged and making way more power id hope so. Compare it to the supercharged HSV Holden and its still taking a L.
Chevy SS all day everyday.
Race the jag with a Kia stinger even match up
That jaguar would need more upgrades to compete with modern muscle
It's hard to believe that they put that high-powered V8 engine in a low-end Chevrolet Malibu that has no appeal whatsoever.. It was a very poor rated unpopular body style that they changed soon after it came in production.
Probably just me but I like the way it looks like a more aggressive Malibu
@@layne4376 I looked the car over carefully.. The front end resembles the police car Caprice model that they used for a few years during that time.. The back end looks like the Malibu that was a terrible flop and very cheaply made. It is really a hybrid of two uninspiring cars.
It's just too bad they put a body on it like that... They're so many other ones that would have been more favorable. I know the car runs well however it is a very homely looking car..
@@lyndoncobb7077 The Malibu/Chevelle was a notable car back in the 1960s and early seventies.. They were really power houses with big block v8s and they had beautiful body styles as well..after that they became very cheap and poorly made in comparison with the other GM cars.. They were reduced to shame the same way the mustang suffered with a design of the mustang ll 🐎.. However the Malibu was not quite as bad as the Mustang Il .It was terrible..🤮
@@charlesjackson1700 cheaply made? The cost does not reflect the build quality. It's the best rwd v8 sedan for anywhere near the price it was sold for. It didn't sell because Chevrolet didn't spend anywhere near enough to market it. If they did, sales would have seen Chevrolet import the HSV versions including the LSA powered GTSR, and possibly the LS9 powered GTSR W1. Look up those cars to see what North America could have had.
This car is not anywhere close to a Malibu.
Put the Stinger next to both and it'll leave them in the dust
A Stock Stinger isn't beating a SS. It would probably inch out the jag maybe, but it's still getting walked on the high end by the SS.
I still buy the jag Chevrolet pos for sure tho
It's a Holden, not a true Chevy. Build quality is much better than your standard Chevy
This opinion just screams "i cant afford either"
Matter of time before the jag breaks down. Chevy small block will have better lifetime reliability.
You're paying for the name with the Jaguar, it's a very over rated car.
Jaguar XE SV, hold the world record at the "ring' .
I’m surprised at how well the SS was launching 🫣
That jag launched as a GARBAGE if is more or less at the level with an RWD car on regular asphalt. I would try to build way more brake boost on it, just to be able to keep still from brakes, maybe some 2800rpm's. I've launched properly Subaru and Audi from 4000rpm's and always were bullit start there on regular asphalt. On vht sometimes driveshaft broken occurs, especially for over 600nm cars.