Malignance Udyr Is a Scam

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ความคิดเห็น • 74

  • @thor8606
    @thor8606 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +456

    tbh i think that's how it should work, its hexplate and zeke's that need to be adjusted to fit with the whole awaken thing

    • @Cleanse333
      @Cleanse333  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      Cloud soul , Hexplate and Zeke all 3 get activated by basic abilities but fandom says that Hexplate should only get activated by awakened abilities while Cloud soul should get activated by basic abilities so all of this is really weird , I also think that making only Awakened abilities activate all of those is the most right thing to do .

    • @FioreCava
      @FioreCava 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nonsense. If it's a passive is not a Ultimate, otherwise should passive's cd get reduced by hexplate / malignance? The answer is, of course, no, cause it's a passive.

    • @mercuryhugs8040
      @mercuryhugs8040 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      when malignance just droped in udur was even able to proc in any shape or form i am shocked he even procs it now

    • @Joacoffs
      @Joacoffs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@FioreCava the cd does get reduced by the ultimate ability haste from hexplate and malignance, although it doesn't show it in the tooltip if you use the passive it will be reduced when having either of those 2 items.

    • @biben10
      @biben10 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@FioreCavaA couple patches ago riot specifically changed these items to work with Udyr because it is kind of bullshit that he's the only champ in the game who just can't build these items. This absolutely isn't the intended interaction though, as they specifically stated that empowered q and r should have the "Ultimate" ability tag now causing them to trigger these effects when used, and maligance is still working like this, but I also think that Hexplate and Zeke's are bugged on him to be triggering when they're not supposed to. Cloud activating on his basic abilities might legitimately be a hold over from pre-rework, as I recall that being how it worked on old Udyr. (I also remember them making that change specifically to buff him as your jungler not getting benefit from your dragon soul is especially feelsbad when it's only 1/4 souls that did it.)

  • @joaolucassouzadeoliveirago6519
    @joaolucassouzadeoliveirago6519 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

    The passive of udyr is the real ultimate, this is correct.

  • @maybeacatidk
    @maybeacatidk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Before even the awakened abilities was not applying malignance, they fixed that problem on last patches 😂

    • @odyghah3556
      @odyghah3556 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I see :D i wonder why it din't works back then

  • @xn--g5h6690ovb
    @xn--g5h6690ovb 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    yooo respect on the MapleStory music

  • @santiagosancho2317
    @santiagosancho2317 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Riot needs to make up their mind about what's Udyr's ultimate (technically speaking).
    Is it his R? (Like when Sylas steals it?)
    Is it all of his abilities? (Like with hextech?)
    Is it the awaken version of his abilities? (like with malignance?)
    What is it?

    • @naerolf09
      @naerolf09 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      its cool 😎

    • @jurgenmaier4335
      @jurgenmaier4335 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      its his awakaned abilatys as his awaken is affected by ultimate abilaty haste.

    • @dujilli
      @dujilli 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      definitely abilities but sylas has to steal something

  • @saltedmaple
    @saltedmaple 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    it's a feature - Riot

    • @cereshin
      @cereshin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it is its in the patch notes that is just a video on patch notes rebranded as bugs

    • @evnbd
      @evnbd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm pretty sure this was intentional

    • @Ervo
      @Ervo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It actually is

  • @matheusviniciusdemoraes9420
    @matheusviniciusdemoraes9420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is already a bliss, 2 months ago I spent a whole aram waiting for my phoenix stance to proc malignance, at 26 minutes with that "Damage done: 0", I sold the item.

    • @matheusviniciusdemoraes9420
      @matheusviniciusdemoraes9420 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I was using awakened phoenix that whole game with my tank Udyr :(

    • @merdricon
      @merdricon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      malignance is nerfed in aram anyway

  • @MinaB-o2n
    @MinaB-o2n 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At least malignance activates now. 2 moths ago it would just do nothing even if one used the awakened ability

  • @Khalys.
    @Khalys. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    cmon why are you just harassing such a small indie company, let them cook...

  • @rokasb9441
    @rokasb9441 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mote like this is how all ult-baed items should work..

  • @JeebleyJim
    @JeebleyJim 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    imo every champ that has "empower next basic ability" for an ult should just have 4 abilities and a passive function like Udyr
    that way they have more precedent for determining what's supposed to happen in cases like this
    (Also not giving sylas a whole ass toolkit every 2 min)

    • @naerolf09
      @naerolf09 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that would make udyr no longer unique tho

    • @leoleo1035
      @leoleo1035 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Horrible suggestion. We are so glad that you are not a designer.

    • @FabioDoor
      @FabioDoor 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fixing Karma 101. Well done.

  • @PyaraKaMalika
    @PyaraKaMalika 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Welp you would use hexplate and Zeke on a random minion or monster farm if they proc on basic abilities - the awakened part is good

  • @Okita78
    @Okita78 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    That was in patch notes when they made the change.

  • @ktskis1680
    @ktskis1680 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    if an item does not give armor/ mr damage/ penetration its not that good

  • @tristanmedved4447
    @tristanmedved4447 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i bought it in urf and my bro said at least it gives you ult haste but it doesnt show that my R is tecnically "ultimate ability"

  • @rhodribrown2296
    @rhodribrown2296 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be fair, malignance doesn't have a cooldown like the other two do so it would be kinda busted if udyr could just proc it every 2 seconds for additional damage and pen. Additionally, Radiant Virtue had this same interaction with udyr back when it was an item (would only proc on awakened abilities)

  • @ljtaylor4801
    @ljtaylor4801 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It sucks that malignance doesn't work on Warwick 😢

  • @liaum9195
    @liaum9195 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    imagine when people discover that every blitz R passive procs malignance..... blitz ap bruiser top

  • @tahataouri1334
    @tahataouri1334 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hey at least it works in the end, lookat yorick's ult, it doesn't even register 😂😂😂

    • @embalancer6146
      @embalancer6146 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where would it register though

    • @Iyasakami
      @Iyasakami 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Warwick either, AA ults doesn't proc

    • @tahataouri1334
      @tahataouri1334 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@embalancer6146 it does on daisy and tibbies , but not the maiden

  • @dany666
    @dany666 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thx ...thats all i needed to know...awakened is fine

  • @elitenoob2141
    @elitenoob2141 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh no! Anyway

  • @granddaddylurch9178
    @granddaddylurch9178 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Narrate or dnt post

  • @Iyasakami
    @Iyasakami 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Malignance does not work on ultimate based on auto attacks, so since udyr's abilities without being in the ult are auto attacks, it doesn't activate.
    Btw, the same applies to Warwick ult, it doesn't work because the damage is 100% auto attacks.

  • @fabiolewis2023
    @fabiolewis2023 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey cleanse love your stuff, if you're looking for new ideas, there's a bug(?) where riftmaker and liandry's damage boost passives are not triggering with frozen heart aura while jak'sho triggers his stacks. frozen heart should count as "in combat" or not?
    Edit: also unending despair passive triggers with frozen heart aura

  • @joshuawilliams8310
    @joshuawilliams8310 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But does it shorten the awaken cooldown. That’s the real tech.

  • @kansugi374
    @kansugi374 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh so it finally works! I got udyr on aram day 1 with new items and got tilted that malignance didn't proc at all with his kit... Haven't played it since then.

  • @johndoe9353
    @johndoe9353 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I tried that on sion too just because I wanted the ultimate haste for his r and I don’t get the haste at all

  • @janeiro301
    @janeiro301 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Zekes suddenly feels good finally

  • @throwawaylellam5243
    @throwawaylellam5243 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in my opinion the biggest scam is still malignance twitch. Imagine proccing malignance with each individual shot

  • @paradontaz-loltftlorwr8301
    @paradontaz-loltftlorwr8301 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ниче не понял

  • @mundonger8426
    @mundonger8426 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:52 to be more precise it only apply on awaken R and Q

  • @herospoint
    @herospoint 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the cdr does it take effect on his passive or on his abilities?

  • @gallanomarkandrea.1787
    @gallanomarkandrea.1787 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well using an awakened ability is technically using Udyrs ultimate since it's using Udyr's passive

  • @Formiga3683hdk
    @Formiga3683hdk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    More like hexplate and zeke convergences are a scam on udyr

  • @ururubizzareman
    @ururubizzareman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah Spaghetti-code, classic

  • @Lumin545
    @Lumin545 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    tower of time from maplestory save me...

  • @cereshin
    @cereshin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thats just in the patch notes ... no bug just patch notes

    • @Cleanse333
      @Cleanse333  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In this case Hexplate and Zeke's interactions are bugs (on fandom you can see that Hexplate should be activated by awakened abilities only (probably Zeke's too) but they get activated by basic abilities)* , video has this title because they are way easier to proc than Malignance . Even if fandom said nothing about it , all of them should be one way or another but its just a mess .

    • @cereshin
      @cereshin 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Cleanse333 did you misread patch notes for fandom? there is no scam only patch notes it is as the devs intended. idc about good,bad,right,wrong, but if they patch their game and write it in the notes its not a scam its a patch...

    • @Cleanse333
      @Cleanse333  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@cereshin I don't know which patch you are referring to but patch 14.3 changes state that only awakened abilities are now special-cased to trigger Experimental Hexplate but in this video you can see that its still being triggered by Udyr's basic abilities (bug/scam/lie call it whatever you want to call it) , so is Zeke's convergence (they just forgot to change it too) meaning that only Malignance got adjusted making it harder to proc it for Udyr than other things and thats why this video has this title .

  • @лютыйкринжер
    @лютыйкринжер 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ???? riot wrote they will buff udyr the way that ultimate hunter is not replacing now and absolute ability haste is working with his passive+his awakened abilities can proc hexplate and malignance
    they forgot to wrote it in patch

  • @frogfrog_4
    @frogfrog_4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Malignance used to not work at all on udyr so it's at least something

  • @paatowo5013
    @paatowo5013 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its not a bug

    • @Kaamaarrr
      @Kaamaarrr 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😢

    • @99temporal
      @99temporal 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is a bug. Malignance is the only one working correctly
      Those items should only proc when the awakened version is used... Not the basic version