Ayyyy, it's Vars. I remember you mentioning Smash stuff in your videos before to make comparisons. Cool to see you around in the comp scene even just as a viewer.
Dabuz is such a great player and very good at zoning out his opponent. But damn it is so boring to watch rushdown vs zoners as good as dabuz. Would love to watch him go against T3 Dom's Richter.
His Terry is amazing as well. I feel terry does way better against min-min than kazuya. He has been using Kazuya but it's smart to use Terry if Kazuya does terrible in a matchup. It's awesome that Riddles has been seeing success with both though.
I hope we can see more of his Kazuya, although it’s understandable why he didn’t go to Kazuya vs Min Min, as Riddles thinks that’s a borderline unwinnable matchup for Kazuya
@Wyvern . look I’m no masahiro Sakurai but if you’re comparing a technical character using unique inputs and skill based conversions who has trouble getting in and to balance that has a mechanic that uses longer inputs to a character that runs away and hits left a left b over and over then we not playing the same game
Terry and the fgc characters in this game are the only group with special inputs, most of the cast in this game only press either A or B with a direction so your argument is lacking there. And the fgc characters may have trouble getting in but when they do get in they hit really hard, its just part of their archetype. Same as Min Min who is a zoner, hit and run is part of her gameplan because she doesn't have much moves to throw out in close range that is fast or safe. I don't understand people complaining about zoners when they have obvious flaws.
@@johnnybravosrightnut5117 “technical character” “skill based conversions” please anything a Terry does is considered the very basics in any traditional FG. His gameplay is fairly linear and his follow ups pretty consistent. He’s like a mid level difficulty character to play
It takes a LOT of patience to get through Dabuz’s defensive play, major props to Riddles for being able to handle that. I definitely get way too impatient in those situations
I will continue to laugh at people who whine about a character based around zoning. She's fine, Smash players just don't like using more than 2 brain cells.
@@Eärend1l I don't know, but there are plenty of characters people don't enjoy playing against? Does that automatically mean waste of character slot and go up in ARMS ( :) ) on Twitter or whatever.
Nothing on Dabuz, it’s just Min Min feels so… boring… I know it’s just what he chooses and that’s how he chooses to play and that’s respectable. We as viewers can’t say “you have to play X character because Y character is too boring”… but man, I just get sad whenever I watch Min Min and see that the developers actually thought it was ok to add moves that cover the whole stage for little to no effort. (At least Samus needs to charger her shots, etc.)
Thats what zoners are incredibly boring keep away characters and ill never understand why they were made. They are boring and annoying and ur just blocking or evading a majority of the time
the comentators are making me cringe everytime i see a missed input on riddles part and the guy is like "oh yeah questionable choice of using power geyser in the middle of the stage, i don't know what riddles is thinking" like c'mon my guy
Great show from both players! I know I'm not in the vocal majority, but I actually really enjoy watching Min Min matches. Yeah, her advantage is super good, but her disadvantage is super bad. Going against in-your-face fighters like Terry isn't easy either, and while I give full credit to Riddles's patience and amazing recoveries, gotta give credit to Dabuz for dealing with the pressure once he got in, which happened a fair bit in that set!
Interesting point of view can you explain why going against in face characters is such a huge disadvantage for min min? Because I thought she could just keep them back easily
Lmao does dabuz play a single character that isn't campy and hated by the entire community for encouraging boring and cheesy gameplay? The dude is a joke and would get slaughtered on any character that has to actually approach
Every single time I see Dabuz, I hope he loses. Hes like a Smash Bros villain, he literally only plays the most annoying characters in the world. Rosalina, Olimar, and MINMIN?? Lmao get rekt kid
I know she's not broken or OP or anything along those lines, but I can't help thinking how dumb of a character Min Min is. How did Nintendo think it would be fun to have to fight a character that can spam normal attacks from halfway across the stage?
minmin so hard to play against 😭 she boxes so well. even when i play joker (someone i just picked up this year), its very polarizing from a somewhat close-long range to approach 🤣. i know you cant out-box minmin, and with ramram you cant really approach high... do i just need to master parrying? i can do that
you just gotta get as close to the min min as possible by sheilding / parrying, also you can use gun to stun the minmin. when you approach just spam fast moves and it works
I feel like Riddles' Terry isn't as clean as it once was. Could be due to the matchup or due to putting more time into Kazuya. Either way it is still hype!
Oh my lord MinMin looks extremely cursed to fight, especially for a slower character like Terry my word... I'm only watching still because y'all talking about Riddles winning here in the comments. It's too painful to watch without that knowledge.
He has used characters like Olimar, Rosalina and Luma in the past. Both characters that use separate hitbox type moves with the Pikmin and Luma. As for Min Min its identical to that too because her Arms don't have hurt boxes that affect the main character so it's like a separate hitbox too. I guess that it's just natural for him to use campy spacers.
I hate minmin. It's not even that I have problems fighting her since I play palu and if they wanna play their games I just press the b button over and over. It's that I feel awful for the person fighting them when I see these matches. Huge props to riddles for powering through it to take the win!
I hate people that play like this where they just run away the whole game. Just pick a bitch made character for your bitch made playstyle like samus or ness where you just spam mussels and pk fire. Pink Fresh don’t play min min like this.
La forma que jugo Dabuz debió ser así cuando le tocó contra Leo, tan solo ve esos edgeguard, esa forma perra de defenderse al máximo, y sin olvidar el escapar y estar presionando en todo momento el escudo del contrario. Espero que si juegan nuevamente Leo y Dabuz, el suba la expectativa y rompa a Joker hay con que, por parte de Leo sigo esperando lo mismo de siempre, ósea, que haga jugadas super fumadas y no pierda, a esperar no queda de otra.
@RANITA4G en efecto, Riddles le ganó en su propio juego, esos parries al final aún con el escenario en contra funcionó. Yo sigo creyendo en que Dabuz puede sacar más para usar a MinMin, la cuestión es adaptación, aunque igual son pocos jugadores de nivel que pueden jugar pacientes el mismo juego o ganarle.
I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's that skillfully played by Dabuz, I mean yeah he's good, but it just doesn't seem on the same level. He just looks carried by Min Min all the time.
whenever I see two dlc characters as match ups I go, "okay maybe THIS one will be interesting." They never are. But this one... was especially boring. mwah ❤
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The patience on Riddles... I would just mental crack if I had to play that.
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I agreed
Ayyyy, it's Vars. I remember you mentioning Smash stuff in your videos before to make comparisons. Cool to see you around in the comp scene even just as a viewer.
Dabuz is such a great player and very good at zoning out his opponent. But damn it is so boring to watch rushdown vs zoners as good as dabuz. Would love to watch him go against T3 Dom's Richter.
Yeah dabuz was spamming arms
All of Riddles's F-Smashes going the wrong way are misinput Crack Shoots. Terry mains know the pain.
I feel you brother
We feel that bro 😂
U can do the imput with cstick
@@DavionLane I do
Why not use the b button then?
Riddles' parries were paramount for that 5th game! Good on him.
Riddles' Terry in 2021 is still hype
so glad the riddles terry isn’t dead
I'm AMAZED Riddles managed to win this, he had to work so hard, Dabuz was playing SO safe. Popped off when Riddles won, super nice job
I love watching riddles play he’s just amazing, sad he’s not playing as much kazuya this tourney
honestly i prefer his terry. The shit he can do is so cool while still being able to keep control of the game better than kazuya
His Terry is amazing as well. I feel terry does way better against min-min than kazuya. He has been using Kazuya but it's smart to use Terry if Kazuya does terrible in a matchup. It's awesome that Riddles has been seeing success with both though.
I hope we can see more of his Kazuya, although it’s understandable why he didn’t go to Kazuya vs Min Min, as Riddles thinks that’s a borderline unwinnable matchup for Kazuya
He went Terry here because he's faster than he needs to be so he does better against Min Min
Kazuya vs Min Min is unwinnable according to Riddles.
Nothing against Dabuz, but I absolutely despise MinMin and was hoping he lost miserably.
@Wyvern . Yeah but one actually lets you play the game and doesnt invalidate half the cast
@Wyvern . look I’m no masahiro Sakurai but if you’re comparing a technical character using unique inputs and skill based conversions who has trouble getting in and to balance that has a mechanic that uses longer inputs to a character that runs away and hits left a left b over and over then we not playing the same game
Terry and the fgc characters in this game are the only group with special inputs, most of the cast in this game only press either A or B with a direction so your argument is lacking there. And the fgc characters may have trouble getting in but when they do get in they hit really hard, its just part of their archetype. Same as Min Min who is a zoner, hit and run is part of her gameplan because she doesn't have much moves to throw out in close range that is fast or safe. I don't understand people complaining about zoners when they have obvious flaws.
@@johnnybravosrightnut5117 “technical character” “skill based conversions” please anything a Terry does is considered the very basics in any traditional FG. His gameplay is fairly linear and his follow ups pretty consistent. He’s like a mid level difficulty character to play
@Wyvern . also crappy recovery and not many options in the air
Riddles using his secondaries is paying off EXTREMELY well
According to the player card, he has no secondaries 🤦♂️
At this point, id call terry and kazuya his mains, and ken and richter his secondaries.
Terry is his og main, Kazuya is the secondary
@@Havoc_279 That actually would be Richter
Riddles is absolutely crazy. Hope we see more of his Terry in the future.
Hat off to Riddle! Recovering from the ledge against Min Min is a huge challenge and he did it great!
Riddles is a real god, Dabuz making a really good work on his preassure and Riddles still making work.
I can’t help but smile every time Min min loses no matter who’s playing.
Congrats to Riddles but I'm not watching another min min match ever again.
It takes a LOT of patience to get through Dabuz’s defensive play, major props to Riddles for being able to handle that. I definitely get way too impatient in those situations
21:29 This interaction just seems so funny to me
On the inside I was rooting for Riddles. That fight looked painful, MinMin is so damn campy and hard to approach
I will continue to laugh at people who whine about a character based around zoning. She's fine, Smash players just don't like using more than 2 brain cells.
@@fel524 wasn't complaining, just stating a fact but aight
@@MeatSlushie0421 i wasn't specifically calling him out, I was calling out everyone whining about her rather than trying to learn the matchup.
@@fel524 Does there exist a single person that actually enjoy playing against zoners u think?
@@Eärend1l I don't know, but there are plenty of characters people don't enjoy playing against? Does that automatically mean waste of character slot and go up in ARMS ( :) ) on Twitter or whatever.
Happy 2 year anniversary to Terry’s Release (November 6th 2019)
Riddles mental fortitude is solid. Min min is now on my “Don’t Watch” list with Sonic
I can’t speak for you, but I don’t like MinMin and still watch her to learn what needs to be done to win.
Give this man medal right away for his patience
I would kill to have patience like riddles. God watching that minmin vs terry match up was a night mare. Extra points to riddles man. He deserves it.
wacthing min min gives me stress and anxiety
Nothing on Dabuz, it’s just Min Min feels so… boring… I know it’s just what he chooses and that’s how he chooses to play and that’s respectable. We as viewers can’t say “you have to play X character because Y character is too boring”… but man, I just get sad whenever I watch Min Min and see that the developers actually thought it was ok to add moves that cover the whole stage for little to no effort. (At least Samus needs to charger her shots, etc.)
Thats what zoners are incredibly boring keep away characters and ill never understand why they were made. They are boring and annoying and ur just blocking or evading a majority of the time
couldn't agree more. Dabuz is so fcking boring.
What is the paper they always look at in between matches
it's the stage list
Stagelist bans I believe.
The book of their opponent's minds. So that they can get better reads
I believe it's the stage list, since the winner has to ban stages and the loser has to pick one that's not banned. So it's probably a reminder.
Was hoping to see Richter but I'll gladly watch his Terry too!
Honestly, watching Dabuz jump up and down in his seat out of stress made me feel so much better, because watching his min-min was infuriating
Maybe I should play min min, use the same move 60 times in a row and win matches lol
13:03 Did Riddles decide to go easy on him?
This match up looks like a nightmare for any FGC.
Dabuz' usage of double jumps never ceases to impress me.
Good to see Terry'S Riddles back to Action
Someone should do an "All Mortal Kombat Fatalities On Min Min" video
Not a single person wanted minmin to win… 🤣🤣🤣 #enoughsaid
That looked extremely frustrating.
THE ADAPTATIONS MY MAN RIDDLEZ MADE IN GAMS 5 WERE FUCKING BEAUTIFUL
yall saw them lag spikes in the beginning of the vid
This is offline, pretty sure the capture card was just struggling
I popped off for riddles.
Let's go Riddles!
Riddles’ Terry is so cool
7:32 riddlesもCOIL使うのか。
Dabuz is so cool! He plays the most interesting and hype characters (this is a joke)
Shield break at 13:00
riddles is so fucking good
THE TERRY IS BACK! im glad :)
I like how riddles slow it down game 3
Imagine a min min vs ganondorf matchup, either ganon would get mollywhopped or he’d somehow make it work
What was the song in game 5?
I know I'm late but I think it's N's Castle remix.
the comentators are making me cringe everytime i see a missed input on riddles part and the guy is like "oh yeah questionable choice of using power geyser in the middle of the stage, i don't know what riddles is thinking" like c'mon my guy
Fr f smash clearly being a crack shoot
10:22 Me when mom says chicken nuggies are done
minmin is a minigame jfc
I don't hate Dabuz but holy shit Min Min is so lame. Zoners in general are lame af but Min Min is definitely the cream of the crop.
Great show from both players! I know I'm not in the vocal majority, but I actually really enjoy watching Min Min matches. Yeah, her advantage is super good, but her disadvantage is super bad. Going against in-your-face fighters like Terry isn't easy either, and while I give full credit to Riddles's patience and amazing recoveries, gotta give credit to Dabuz for dealing with the pressure once he got in, which happened a fair bit in that set!
Interesting point of view can you explain why going against in face characters is such a huge disadvantage for min min? Because I thought she could just keep them back easily
GOOD
SHITTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!
That matchup is supposed to be terrible for Terry.
13:03 riddles could have pushed him to edge and gotten a dair, nair, dair then power wave and killed him after that shield break.
2:11 the set in a nutshell
Coño, esta bueno que le ganen a ese mmg que se la paso corriendo todas las partidas, dios que desesperacion
Lmao does dabuz play a single character that isn't campy and hated by the entire community for encouraging boring and cheesy gameplay? The dude is a joke and would get slaughtered on any character that has to actually approach
Every single time I see Dabuz, I hope he loses. Hes like a Smash Bros villain, he literally only plays the most annoying characters in the world. Rosalina, Olimar, and MINMIN?? Lmao get rekt kid
GREAT JOB, RIDDLES!!!!! I use both characters, but it's good to see you don't need to zone to win! Keep up the spirit, Riddles!
I know she's not broken or OP or anything along those lines, but I can't help thinking how dumb of a character Min Min is. How did Nintendo think it would be fun to have to fight a character that can spam normal attacks from halfway across the stage?
They were thinking of promoting their shitty ip, not about the character
@Zach Edwards Of all the shilling characters. Min Min is one that sounds terrible on paper and worse in execution.
@Zach Edwards I don’t like zoners already but watching this match made me realize who I hate the most. If i were riddles I swear I would’ve quit.
minmin so hard to play against 😭 she boxes so well. even when i play joker (someone i just picked up this year), its very polarizing from a somewhat close-long range to approach 🤣. i know you cant out-box minmin, and with ramram you cant really approach high... do i just need to master parrying? i can do that
you just gotta get as close to the min min as possible by sheilding / parrying, also you can use gun to stun the minmin. when you approach just spam fast moves and it works
I feel like Riddles' Terry isn't as clean as it once was. Could be due to the matchup or due to putting more time into Kazuya. Either way it is still hype!
Allah help us, Min Min is the epitome of "My EdGeGuArDiNg GoEs dUmMy!!"
That satisfying moment when you beat the annoying zoner player! LFG RIDDLES!
not a live watcher.
Can someone spoil me who wins next matches? aka finals and grands?
Not even close to finishing
@@EigoSensei ah ok
@@JDarkAngeI Its done Kola wins the tournament, Riddles is 2nd and Dabuz 3rd
Kola won. Riddles 2nd. Buzby 3rd
Oh my lord MinMin looks extremely cursed to fight, especially for a slower character like Terry my word...
I'm only watching still because y'all talking about Riddles winning here in the comments. It's too painful to watch without that knowledge.
God minmin is actually infuriating to even watch
dabuz char always comes with range attack meanwhile riddles combo melee type.
I'm curious if Dabuz intentionally picks the most non-commital easy to use characters for reasons other than for competition.
He has used characters like Olimar, Rosalina and Luma in the past. Both characters that use separate hitbox type moves with the Pikmin and Luma. As for Min Min its identical to that too because her Arms don't have hurt boxes that affect the main character so it's like a separate hitbox too. I guess that it's just natural for him to use campy spacers.
People shitting on Dabuz for playing zoner, yet when Riddles plays zoner Richter they praise him smh
Weird looking Richter
Riddles hasn’t played Richter in years lmao
@@thekingbradable He just played him the other day
@@thekingbradable Richter is his secondary now
Because at least Richter can mix things up, with Min Min it’s literally just Arm 1, Arm 2, over and over.
Just a spacer non spoiler comment
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO
The king of boring characters. He literally specialized in this type of characters
Minmin really is the most annoying character in the whole game
Both characters are cancer, but Min Min is on a league of its own. Really was cheering for Terry to mash the hell out and just beat that shit.
I’m glad riddles won
I hate minmin. It's not even that I have problems fighting her since I play palu and if they wanna play their games I just press the b button over and over. It's that I feel awful for the person fighting them when I see these matches. Huge props to riddles for powering through it to take the win!
Jugar contra min min da un ching de ansiedad nmms no vean esto estando pachecos
I hate people that play like this where they just run away the whole game. Just pick a bitch made character for your bitch made playstyle like samus or ness where you just spam mussels and pk fire. Pink Fresh don’t play min min like this.
Yes, SPAM-BUZ loss!!
Not gunna lie, min min is super boring to watch. Good games, just not super entertaining in my opinion
15:00 youre wrong even byleth can recover that
Min min pro game play : fear the fight and spam the cancer arms
Bruh dabuz has to piss and he's holding it all set
Wow, just wow! Good s**t! ✊😁
Imagine playing min m
I wanted to wipe half of all life because of the horror that Min Min is to watch and play against.
La forma que jugo Dabuz debió ser así cuando le tocó contra Leo, tan solo ve esos edgeguard, esa forma perra de defenderse al máximo, y sin olvidar el escapar y estar presionando en todo momento el escudo del contrario.
Espero que si juegan nuevamente Leo y Dabuz, el suba la expectativa y rompa a Joker hay con que, por parte de Leo sigo esperando lo mismo de siempre, ósea, que haga jugadas super fumadas y no pierda, a esperar no queda de otra.
@RANITA4G en efecto, Riddles le ganó en su propio juego, esos parries al final aún con el escenario en contra funcionó.
Yo sigo creyendo en que Dabuz puede sacar más para usar a MinMin, la cuestión es adaptación, aunque igual son pocos jugadores de nivel que pueden jugar pacientes el mismo juego o ganarle.
nothing against Dabuz but min min is just an abysmal of a character design
hell nah that min min playstyle ain't cool to deal with. just a ball of frustration
So much player salt in the comments whenever MinMin pops up
I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's that skillfully played by Dabuz, I mean yeah he's good, but it just doesn't seem on the same level. He just looks carried by Min Min all the time.
Dabuz is really not that good he’s always been a camper
Are you new to smash? Dabuz was top 10 in smash 4. Dabuz is top 10 in ultimate even without minmin.
@@MegaWulf Dabuz plays lame but come on man. Dabuz definitely is good
his defensive play is underrated. Camping is lame, but effective
You must think every top player has a rushdown/combo mindset
Min min is the worst
no
@@751.L no u
@@boxcar9407 :(
Yup very brain dead 1 dimensional character.
The woooooooorst.
if you main Min Min, you should be ashamed.
poggers match
Those spikes from Riddles....hnnnnggghgh
This Keep-away was boring af to watch felt more like punishment than entertainment
whenever I see two dlc characters as match ups I go, "okay maybe THIS one will be interesting." They never are. But this one... was especially boring. mwah ❤