10 Questions with Mike Winger (Episode 20)
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- 0:00 - Intro
1. 0:54 {Taking On an Atheist’s Challenge} Can you please respond to Holy Koolaid’s video alleging various Bible contradictions and problems with Christianity? Did Jesus Himself undermine Christianity?
2. 30:34 {Preston Sprinkle & “Side B” Christianity} What's your take on Preston Sprinkle? Some Christians like him, but others call him a heretic or "side B Christian.” The issue seems to be about him not thinking same-sex attraction is a sin when not meditated/acted on.
3. 38:08 {Is Family Planning Sinful?} My church teaches that a couple must continuously have as many children as they're able, and it's seen as selfish and a sin resulting in church discipline if they use any form of family planning to stop. Many have 12-18 children as a result. Leadership says God wouldn't give more children than a couple can handle. Is this biblical? We already have 5 children.
4. 47:49 {The Pinnacle of Wickedness} Mike, are we there yet? The Bible says it will be as in the days of Noah in the last days. Have we arrived at the pinnacle of wickedness yet?
5. 53:41 {Can we still Glean from Reckless Charismatism?} I learned that Bethel's prophecy teachings and those of Storms, Wimber, Deere, Randolph, etc. trace back to scandalous Kansas City prophets. Should all be ignored, or can the chaff be separated?
6. 1:04:11 {Trusting God with Deep Fears} I’m a mom of three young children. I struggle with a lot of fear over their safety. How can I give this to God, knowing that it doesn’t mean something bad won’t still happen?
7. 1:11:44 {Healing = the Children’s Bread?} "Healing is the children's bread" is taught by a pastor friend when he prays for the sick. He uses Mark 7: 24-30 as the proof text. What is the “bread” in v. 27?
8. 1:18:05 {Household Responsibilities in Marriage} Does God care who does the dishes and cooks the food? Is the wife called to manage the household? What if both the husband and wife work similar full-time jobs (Proverbs 31: 15,21,27; Titus 2:5)?
9. 1:26:13 {Questioning Salvation = Not Saved?} I asked the youth how confident they are of salvation on a 1-10 scale. One replied with a ”7” citing that they still sin and don’t read their Bible often. Can one be saved if they associate salvation with works like Bible reading? Are the warnings in Galatians fitting here?
10. 1:33:31 {Are All of Paul’s Writings Inspired?} What should we make of Paul saying "I, not the Lord" as if he's just giving his own opinion, while also believing that all Scripture (which includes that statement) is Holy Spirit inspired (1 Corinthians 7)?
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Question Time Stamps for Quick Reference:
0:00 - Intro
1. 0:54 {Taking On an Atheist’s Challenge} Can you please respond to Holy Koolaid’s video alleging various Bible contradictions and problems with Christianity? Did Jesus Himself undermine Christianity?
2. 30:34 {Preston Sprinkle & “Side B” Christianity} What's your take on Preston Sprinkle? Some Christians like him, but others call him a heretic or "side B Christian.” The issue seems to be about him not thinking same-sex attraction is a sin when not meditated/acted on.
3. 38:08 {Is Family Planning Sinful?} My church teaches that a couple must continuously have as many children as they're able, and it's seen as selfish and a sin resulting in church discipline if they use any form of family planning to stop. Many have 12-18 children as a result. Leadership says God wouldn't give more children than a couple can handle. Is this biblical? We already have 5 children.
4. 47:49 {The Pinnacle of Wickedness} Mike, are we there yet? The Bible says it will be as in the days of Noah in the last days. Have we arrived at the pinnacle of wickedness yet?
5. 53:41 {Can we still Glean from Reckless Charismatism?} I learned that Bethel's prophecy teachings and those of Storms, Wimber, Deere, Randolph, etc. trace back to scandalous Kansas City prophets. Should all be ignored, or can the chaff be separated?
6. 1:04:11 {Trusting God with Deep Fears} I’m a mom of three young children. I struggle with a lot of fear over their safety. How can I give this to God, knowing that it doesn’t mean something bad won’t still happen?
7. 1:11:44 {Healing = the Children’s Bread?} "Healing is the children's bread" is taught by a pastor friend when he prays for the sick. He uses Mark 7: 24-30 as the proof text. What is the “bread” in v. 27?
8. 1:18:05 {Household Responsibilities in Marriage} Does God care who does the dishes and cooks the food? Is the wife called to manage the household? What if both the husband and wife work similar full-time jobs (Proverbs 31: 15,21,27; Titus 2:5)?
9. 1:26:13 {Questioning Salvation = Not Saved?} I asked the youth how confident they are of salvation on a 1-10 scale. One replied with a ”7” citing that they still sin and don’t read their Bible often. Can one be saved if they associate salvation with works like Bible reading? Are the warnings in Galatians fitting here?
10. 1:33:31 {Are All of Paul’s Writings Inspired?} What should we make of Paul saying "I, not the Lord" as if he's just giving his own opinion, while also believing that all Scripture (which includes that statement) is Holy Spirit inspired (1 Corinthians 7)?
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Hi Sarah, which video is the one specifically about question 8? Wife is literally threatening divorce if I don’t pay all the bills and we live in Los Angeles 😑 (high bills low pay)
@@nonplayablecharacter4815 I believe this is the one: th-cam.com/video/1sFORbH86-k/w-d-xo.htmlsi=fXFfLDxumGquKnSJ
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@@nonplayablecharacter4815It sounds as if your wife needs advice, not you.
Mike, when my son died 4 years ago I clung to my faith in Jesus. I learned thru that experience that even tho I grieved deeply my joy is found in the Lord and not the things of this world. It was a good lesson and tested my faith. Thank you for your Biblical teaching which thru I have grown so much but I still verify with God’s word forcing me to study it much more.
Prayers ❤ may God comfort you in your trial
I’m so sorry about your son’s passing
My prayers and condolences
Was he saved?
I am sorry this happened-so sorry you lost your boy. May God give you peace, comfort, and strength. His mercies are new each day, and His love endures forever ❤
@@kgebhardt1187 that is beautiful. Thank you so much!
@@staceyforehand9513 thank you!
I'm 43, my wife and I have 2 young'ns, I am the protector of my family ( in the earthly/man sense. I know God is our refuge ) . But, I do the dishes and my wife and I basically both do the laundry and house chores. There is no reason that a man can't partner with his spouse in caring for their home.
Thank you for saying this! Neither one need take on all the burdens. Its a team effort!
Agreed, roles vary and skills don’t always follow any generation’s presumed gender roles. My wife is far more practical than me on anything mechanical, a skill that has passed to our sons. On the other hand, I am a natural cook, another skill that has passed to our sons. However I have always been the breadwinner even though it is my wife who has the degrees. She always wanted to be a homemaker and would have missed her children growing up had she stuck to the career she had in her 20s.
Mike…PLEASE invite Holy Koolaid for a skeptic’s debate. He’s a former devote Christian (missionary kid) who “shipwrecked” his faith, and I think the debate would be instructive and powerful. I’d clear my schedule to watch it!
Mike has done debates in the past, but has stated that the cost/benefit is usually not worth for him, along with a general lack of desire to do so.
The TH-camr Wise Disciple would be better for debates.
@@truewhitepill5989 I know he’s both done them and shies away from them, but there’s something here with this young man that I think could be highly beneficial.
@@truewhitepill5989 But of course, the Lord’s will be done.
There is God Logic, SIIIG, and many others that welcome debate
@YankeeStacking on Mike Winger's channel?! You're both awesome! What a pleasant surprise! Thanks for all you guys do!
Glad I heard Mikes Charismatic experience, Makes me feel a little better about mine. Mine was worse cause I wanted God so bad that i tried to "get" what everyone else was getting. I would always go up to get "slain", but like Mike, I never felt anything. I just chose to go down. Ten they would all be drunk and high on the Holy Spirit. Once again I never felt it. I did not pretend to either. It got worse from there.
And I was being treated differently than everyone, and being rejected and even being told it is because of my sins that I was not experiencing the gifts. Or I was not believing enough. I became a wreck because I did not know why God was rejecting me. I didn't know why God hated me and would often ask God to just take me out if I am worthless to the kingdom.
I never got the visions, prophesies, or healings. Nothing. But everything in me knew God is real and the Jesus is His Christ. I never doubted Jesus, I just though He didn't want me. I prayed for salvation probably thousands of times because I thought I wasn't saved. When I started going to a different church (a Calvary Chapel believe it or not) called Water Springs here in Idaho Falls. I would get mad a lot cause I was still believing the Hyper teaching. but at least my kids were in a good youth program. well fast forward our pastor said God told him to leave and go to Boise (Rick Brown) so we got a new one and he destroyed the kids program. So I left and went to CCC here in town. I liked it and good programs for kids.
Well I am still mostly set in my hyper beliefs and Covid hit. So no church. My kids are mostly grown by this time. My last one turned 18 today actually. So I start watching our service online like everyone else. Before this I never used TH-cam for the videos. I noticed Mike Winger and started listening to him and could not get enough. And since then have totally rejected the Hyper, prosperity, New Age, and all the others that are tied together denominations. And now I am studying the word and trying to get as much truth as I can. I have since realized how wicked all of those people are! God never let me "feel" anything and that saved me from that.
Praise God 🎉
Boy I can relate to this. I'm still struggling. I've been a Christian for 30 plus years. I don't u derstand any I don't "hear" from God etc
As a Pentecostal myself I agree with certain things Mike has said regarding charismatic gifts. It shouldn't be the main aspect of a Christian's faith. I treat my gifts as, well, gifts, which help amplify and preserve my faith from time to time, but they're not the engines of my Christianity. Regardless of our stances on spiritual gifts, we can all agree that we are saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ our God.
@@thelostfountain1678 nobody feels it, everyone who acts like they do is lying so they aren’t ostracized like you described.
They are lying to themselves and everyone else, it’s a form of denial.
Not true at all. This stuff is real. However it is more often faked. I have personally experienced both. Both God's holy Spirit in power fill a room and me. And iv been there when fakers tried to push people over. The look the guy gave me when I wouldn't go along with his fakery. At that point I'd previously experienced the real thing. I told my friend the man was a false prophets/teacher and we left.
Hey Mike, I think you may have got your sides mixed up on question 2 about homosexuality. Side A Christianity is totally affirming- Brandon Robertson style. Preston Sprinkle flirts with side B which promotes “spiritual friendship”, while Sides X and Y reflect the more Biblical views you are looking for, like Christopher Yuan and Rosaria Butterfield.
Just didn’t want viewers to look into side A thinking it was the Biblical view, hope that’s ok!
This needs more likes for visibility
My mistake. I got the terminology wrong. Sorry about that!!
This all depends on what is meant by "spiritual friendship." If by "spiritual friendship" these means having deep, meaningful friendships with someone of the same sex, Preston Sprinkle views this as a good thing. However, if by "spiritual friendship" it means something trying to mimic marriage, then Preston rejects this. Hopefully this clarifies Preston's position. Chris Yuan and Rosaria misrepresent Preston's views.
@@clarkemorledge2398I’d have to agree with you that Yuan and Butterfield jumped to conclusions about his view because of his association with the Revoice conference. However, I’ve had trouble finding content from Sprinkle that explicitly discusses the dangers of same-sex spiritual friendship. Would you happen to have a link or something to refer me to in order to find this? I’d much appreciate it
Kinda like what Mike said, sometimes he can be a bit nebulous in his claims such that I have trouble discerning exactly what he believes (though his gospel is sound). Thanks for the clarification!
@@abinoel7715 Sure, take a look at his interview Laurie Krieg, who is on the board of directors for the Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender. Search on TH-cam for " Sexuality, Church, Celibate Partnerships, and How I Handle Criticism: Laurie Krieg". I would encourage listening to the whole episode, but the main stuff starts at about the 17:36 time mark. If there is one thing Preston could be "faulted" for is his tendency not to make a moral evaluation of something before trying to understand what that "something" even is; for example, as in "same-sex spiritual friendship." It means different things to different people. But frankly, I think that mode of listening first is a good quality: Try to actually understand what the argument actually is before jumping in to criticize it.
Great analogy regarding eating at a restaurant before you pay for the meal! Thank you for this ministry. Praise God!
Mike, it was Charles Spurgeon who gave the quote, "the real danger of discernment is not between what is right and wrong, but what is right and almost right."
Exactly, Satan and demons aren´t any fools. The worst lie is nearest to the truth.
1:05:43 I tried to find a comment from @catalinaislands… I wish I could speak directly to her. God revealed something to me one night when my 2nd born was only a couple months old (I am now a mom of 4). I was standing over my son just worrying he would stop breathing. I would just constantly check. I remember praying and feeling so strongly in my heart… MY GREATEST FEAR IS SOMEONE ELSE’S REALITY RIGHT NOW. Pray for THAT MOM, that family.
It’s something I’ve continued to do all through motherhood. Pray for my kids, but rather than dwelling on what may happen to them, pray for those that are actually in the throws of whatever turmoil I fear. They need it, and I get a reality/perspective check. Praise God!
I'm gonna take this advice and try it myself. Three of my kids are young adults now. 26, 22, and 19. They have drivers licenses, jobs, relationships, and one of them, my oldest, has her own child. This comes with a whole new set of worries. I haven't thought of it your way before, but it seems like a great way to think of it. And I do remember, when my first was born, being so very worried about the breathing because I had a close friend who lost her baby to SIDS. Once we moved her out of the bassinet, because she was too big for it, and put her in a crib in her own room, I had the baby monitor so loud where I could hear every breath and movement, lol. That was many years ago, but as I have told my daughter about her own baby, each year, or each milestone, brings with it new concerns. Once they can walk, you worry about them falling for example. Once they can drive, you worry about car accidents. This is part of being a parent, but we need to try to lean on the Lord,and as you say, pray for others.
I learned alot today Mike . With each new teaching of yours , I learn a bit more of what Jesus has done for me , and the more I begin to understand , the more depth of what He did is revealed , which I have yet to find words to properly express my thankfulness to Him .. I have been watching you for 7 years and when I am here on this channel , I feel like I am home and surrounded by brothers & sisters . This is one of my most favorite places to be .. I love each , and everyone of you here with me .. God bless Pastor Mike for such clear teachings ...
On question 8 (1:22:28) (Household Responsibilities in Marriage): A few years ago, I wrestled with the opposing teachings of the Bible and of feminism. Feminists tell us to stand up for our rights and, you know, don't stand for any gender stereotyping of your role in society and in the home. But the Bible calls us to serve one another in love just like Jesus demonstrated his love for his disciples by washing their feet. I came to the conclusion that it matters less about who does what in the home and more about serving one another in love in whatever capacity we can.
So true. I take care of the household chores because I love my husband and children and enjoy it. He works to keep us clothed, housed and fed. He and our son mow the lawn, wash the cars, fix stuff, take out the trash. I have stepped in and done those chores, hubby has done housework. Thru the years we have taken care of each other in sickness, poorer, and richness and health, because God loves us and blessed us with love for each other.
Not only restaurants. Dr offices. Dentist offices. Lawyers. Electricity. Water. Sewer. Yard services. Roofing. Any service you receive the service first and pay later.
And even...carpentry!
Christianity has survived the attacks of the best and the brightest people earth has produced in the last 2000. What is the chance it is destroyed by the work of a random youtuber?
0.0000000000%
I really needed that prayer tonight. Thank you for the reminder to put my trust in Him, no matter the outcome. Love your ministry, Mike.
Liking the haircut Mike🤝🏼 Just wanted to give you a random compliment.
Keep up the good work you're doing for the kingdom.
Oh and don’t forget the catcam!
I love your cats , and I love that you love cats!
Me 2!
Thanks brother Mike. the atheist argument was very weak, and you did a great job explaining it. and your prayer at the end of the stream is a good thing. amen
This god character is one evil sob
MIKE drop every.single.time.
Thank you, SiR!! ❤🎉
Besides flat Earth. It´s pity many still don´t get how important topic it is, and it´s not about the shape.
So glad you made a response to this!
No one pushes back on things like Holy koolaid cause it’s foolish..
I never heard of koolaid dude…but if he hasn’t understood Jesus and has read these verses means he has refused the Holy Spirit.. don’t think I can say anything that will make a difference… but what about people who watch koolaid dude? Not sure if comments would help.. for the purpose of the video was to lead believers away from Jesus.. a true believer can not be lead away from Jesus as they have the Holy Spirit and what Is in Jesus Christ hands can not be plucked from Him.. I know I can not walk away from Him.. would have no hope, joy, love.. as Jesus Christ is ALL.. so would my comments stop a believer from leaving the ‘Christian faith’ ? I don’t think I can as they never truly knew Jesus
Answering fools according to folley and casting pearls before swine.
Also youtube itself is not good for any kind of genuine discussion
@@kriegjaegerTH-cam is great for discussion. People are what make things bad for discussion because they do not know how to separate debate from emotional bias.
@@brandonwhitfield1278
The platform isn't great because replies are disorderd, removed, and you have several people replying to comments buried in a chain of replies so effectively without context unless you dig it back up.
@@kriegjaegeraint great but it's what we got. Still the best way to spread truth and debunk Christianity.
Im so thankful i found this channel. Mike is a blessing for me. Next week is gonna be crazy good. I cant wait.🤗
I was a member of a church where the emphasis is The Holy Spirit with altar calls where people are slain in the Spirit and speaking in tongues is common, but at no time did any of us believe that we lose control of our physical body, not everyone falls down, not everyone speaks in tongues, and not all the time. Discernment is necessary when following non-denominational churches where there is no leadership accountability, so emotional manipulation does not happen. I left that church, and many times what the Pastor said comes to my mind, but it is never directly a scripture quote, it is one of the things he would say over and over. I now attend a church where the emphasis is on God's Word and its practical and helpful application to my life.
May God bless you all ❤❤❤
I learn so much from this channel. Thank you.
❤❤❤ Another great stream with answers to hard questions. Thanks Mike, for being so committed to the Word of God!
To the person who asked #8, just wash the dishes. You use dishes, wash them. That simple.
Is your rule that you do not do dishes for others? If you do, what's your rule for that situation? Let's not belittle the questionner for wanting to know what wisdom the Bible offers on the subject.
@josephalbatross5961 I am a wife and I take care of the majority of the inner household care, however, my husband does wash dishes, particularly if I've worked multiple nights and he has been home and he has accumulated the dishes from him being home more than me. We didn't need to have deep scriptural guidance to see what needs to be done in the home. It gets done mutually and with respect and communication because we share the home.
Nobody can take away from the word of God! Including atheists! 🙏🚨🎆
Another great Q & A, Bro Mike. Always good. ☝️😎
Thank you for you videos Mike! You're a great teacher of scripture and you're helping me out with my black-and-white thinking. God bless you!
Thank you for your help brother.
You get my like just for your shirt!! Love you brother.
That movie terrified me as a kid! I'm glad you caught his shirt's reference too
@@dominusalicorn3684what movie is this? I have been trying to figure out what is on his shirt for like 20 minutes ... I ... fixate on idiotic things ...
@MysteryMan159 it's the flying dog from The Neverending Story
@@MysteryMan159 it's Falkor. Like what was said, he's from the movie never ending story, but he's a luck dragon, not a dog.
@@kmm7895 That movie and book author are satanic. He was a student of Aliester Crowley.
Interesting (at around 58 min.) hearing of your experience with "being slain in the Spirit" at the Anaheim Vineyard at age 14. My Vineyard was really into "the renewal" in the late 1990's/early 2000's. Like you, as other people were being strongly impacted and many were on the floor "out under the power," it never really affected me, and I'd often be standing there bored. The most I can say was that sometimes when that kind of ministry was going on, I could feel a "buzz" in the room (anointing?) that if multiplied by 50 or 100, I might have had difficulty remaining standing. I give my leaders credit for emphasizing that it wasn't about falling/not falling, but imparting blessing to the person being prayed for, in whatever form, visible or not, that He would choose. Some people reported that they had felt that a prayer minister had pushed them, seemingly trying to "help" (or manipulate) them into falling down, and the leadership instructed the prayer ministers to be careful to not push people, and that if a minister had a noted tendency to be perceived as pushing people (perhaps innocently out of enthusiasm when they would lay hands on the person and pray), that they should make it a point to just refrain from touching the person at all.
As for my evaluation of long-term "fruit" -- I saw "all of the above" -- there were some strongly affected by those experiences who later "went off the rails," spiritually... some leaving marriages, some going apostate, and others who seemed to be greatly blessed by the experiences and continued on in following the Lord, even as the occurrence of "getting slain in the Spirit" faded away and pretty much ended. At the same time there were people (like me, and Mike) who didn't feel much (if any) "touch from God" at such meetings, but also continued to follow and grow in the Lord. I think it comes down to that we're all "wired" differently, and that we really can't judge how "spiritual" or "close to God" we are based on an outward experience.
It's a powerfull experience. It happens in all religions. Psychologists have figured it out but man does it feel real.
Thank you for this well thought out response. It's really challenging to develop a line of reasoning in the moment when you're faced with a tough question.
Thanks for being genuine enough to describe your "falling down" experience at age 14.
And thanks for analyzing the Kool-Aid guy's video.
Question 1: The sacrificial power of Jesus' offer is for all time. It's retroactive. King David tasted the power of the age to come (the current age). And the scripture says the lamb was slain from the foundation of the earth.
And, in any case, Jesus' sacrifice opens the way to power of the Holy Spirit to live as a witness (live above sin and in holiness and in the ministry of healing to others).
Like this-well said
Great job Mike!
Mr Winger, thank you for sharing the story of you "pretending" to fall over. I felt pressured to do that at a Bible camp I was at when I was a child, maybe 11 or 12. I felt like such an idiot. I never told anyone that story. Not even my husband and I tell him everything. Hearing that I am not alone in that very strange situation is somehow comforting.
On the topic of finances.. How many of our grannies were completely lost when their husband's died and they had no idea how to even pay a bill? We are a team. I'm better at finances than my husband but we agree on things and he knows how to access the bills and our income.
Thank you for answering Holy Koolaid. I saw his video and I wanted to slam my head into something because this person with a big platform is advancing an argument which is paper thin but people would believe. I'm glad God has given us people like you who have platforms to counteract these fumblings.
I have a brother who used to be a devout, legalistic Christian who has now left the church and embraced homosexuality. My mom has been reading a lot of Preston Sprinkle's with to learn how to approach her son with grace and compassion and from what I've read and heard from Sprinkle, he seems to be very solid. His goal is to focus on the individuals struggling with these issues, approaching them with compassion and hard truths, rather than just blanket condemning the entire movement because that can make the individuals feel dismissed.
Thanks and love and blessings from Canada! Love your cat videos and often play them twice, lol!
Hi Mike, In terms of people wondering if the current time period looks like we are headed towards the “end of times”: I always remind people that Satan has had to be ready to fight the “end times battle” in every generation (scary … right?) because NO-ONE knows the exact time of Jesus return. That said, God is Love and He tells us to occupy the earth and be ready at all times. He loves us so much that he left us a manual on how to live in a world that is essentially Satan’s until He returns. Bible=Truth=Love=Transparency. Thank you so much for staying true to the Bible in such confusing times.
Your videos are so good.
Answer to question 9 was very helpful. Thank you.
I had never considered this question. You however answered it and refuted his assertion in a brilliant and completely theologically correct manner. Thank you!
To the person at the church where they’re forced to have kids: RUN!
What church is that?
@@michaels7325sounds like Bill Gothard’s teaching.
@@michaels7325how can one be “ forced”.
@michaels7325 no idea, but it's technically the teaching of the Catholic church. Good Catholics try to use natural family planning, but NFP is notoriously unreliable
@@ProductBasement This church and other extreme ones like it take this idea well past the Catholic ideas against birth control and twist scriptures past any sort of wisdom or free choice.
In our modern society and culture I frequently see strong and even violent opposition to the idea of having not eight or ten kids, but even two or three. Certainly any really big family is often viewed with disgust, and people act like it is sick a sexually perverse while saying that it is wrong, selfish and irresponsible. This is not rare.
Thanks Mike. I love your honesty in these videos they make me think about some things and confirm others.
In regards to Q4: that's a great response. Love it. Thank you Mike!
Pastor Mike, Would you consider doing a deep dive study into Preston Sprinkle? (He is very hard to nail down and bringing SO much confusion to the church).
Hey there, there is a podcast/TH-cam video from “Conversations That Matter“ regarding gay celibacy and Calvary Chapel related to Preston Sprinkle. I found it helpful and clarifying.
Yes I’ve listened to Jon Harris for years - thanks! I think Mike has an even bigger reach, though. I have dug a lot into Sprinkle myself (as my kid’s school had planned to use his sexuality curriculum and it sent off massive alarm bells - my husband went to hear him speak in person last year). He is a teacher that is highly influential and (I believe) is duping many genuine believers. I LOVED Mike’s deep dive into Benny Hinn, and I can imagine a deep dive into Sprinkle would yield some excellent analysis and provide clear caution to the church.
@@RianneBustamante-pc2tt I too would definitely appreciate Mike doing a deep dive into Preston Sprinkle and his teaching regarding sexuality.
Blessings to you and yours. ✝️
@@RianneBustamante-pc2tt Sprinkle is a heretic. He should be banned from schools and churches.
Wow Mike, nailed Q1, love the explanation.
Preston came to my church and spoke on the topic of same sex attraction-and I was very curious to see what he had to say, because I too felt mixed feelings about him/didn’t understand exactly where he fell. After hearing him in person, I walked away very encouraged. He does not support same sex relationships or how I believe he put it, supports the historically biblical view of relationships, wherein one man is with one woman. However, his main focus is to walk with empathy and compassion towards those who are anywhere within the same sex attraction range. His perspective is more to show love, not acceptance, but love and compassion towards those. Especially after learning how unjustly some have been treated. He leans towards an empathetic approach vs strictly bashing them with shame. And I felt deeply encouraged by his talk.
Hey Mike!
Here's some pushback:
1. More kitty!
2. Bring back the gummy bears!
3. Tell us where your cool wife gets your awesome shirts, please!
Thank you and God bless 🙏
Gummy bears made with honey, not sugar!
painful and serious pushback, but it's what Mike needed to hear
hopefully he does some serious considering on the points here
lol
The cat actually got my attention 😅
The doo works Mike. I like it. ❤
Thanks Mike. This critical correction created the perfect test for an athiest friend of mind - I had him watch the Kool Aid video first, write down anything he thought might be wrong about it, and then had him watch this one and tell me if he missed any problems.
How'd it go?
With regard to the Q 1, the bible itself covers how Jesus sacrifice even applies to those that came before him, in Hebrews 11:39-40.
@@davenelson1474 yes but that books a forgery. It's not Paul. So possibly a lunatic wrote it to undermine Judaism.
Human sacrifice was against mosaic law-no? so then didn't Jesus commit a sin against the law? thus he isn't a perfect atonement?
@@werkzeugmann6224God chose to sacrifice Himself and take our shame, guilt, and the penalty we’re due for our sins out of His love for us and to restore us to Himself. This is very different from someone choosing to murder someone else to try to win favor with God. God is not interested in that at all.
Even regarding the animal sacrifices (which could only temporarily cover sins and were meant to point us toward the ultimate Sacrifice) David writes that God took no pleasure in, lamenting the fact that the sins he committed could not be covered by the blood of bulls etc. as murder and adultery were both capital crimes yet God had mercy on him anyway. (See Psalm 51:16-17.)
David looked forward to what God would do to ultimately restore him (we look back and know what God did and we know His name) thus God could accept David’s broken spirit and earnest seeking of forgiveness (because God always knew He would take on human flesh and allow Himself to pay the penalty we all owe).
Hebrews is confirmed a later forgery. Brilliant writing but still made up.
@@werkzeugmann6224 That's not the gotcha you think it is. There is a list of acceptable sacrifices, and you are not pure enough to be on that list. Some animals were on that list as stopgap measures against condemnation, but Jesus was on that list as the final solution.
New camera? Lens? Lighting? Somethings different, and I like it
I like the restaurant metaphor, that was really helpful!
Your haircut is way cooler than before. Dig it
Sprinkle is definitely not to be trusted.
He did a Q&A at my church a few years ago and, with a straight face, told us that we should not only be using adult transgender peoples’ “preferred pronouns”, but that the loving thing to do would be to retrofit our bathrooms into gender neutral bathrooms so they’d feel more welcome at our church.
He wasn’t invited back and our pastor had to send out a clarifying email about our church’s stance on gender to confirm we disagreed with him.
Yes, love often is not about tolerance as many wrongly think. Love can be "harsh" sometimes. Jesus wasn´t some hippie as many wrongly think.
Re question 2. Sean McDowell's interview with Rosaria Butterfield recently was real thought provoking regarding SSA. If God condemns it and if you lust in your heart you commit adultery, then it does not matter if you act on it or not. You need to repent.
Right. It's like coveting your neighbor's wife. You're not sleeping with her, but you wish you did.
No penalty is specified for lusting in your heart. It is not adultery.
Also, it would have to be adultery if acted upon. If you are unmarried, and a woman you lust after is unmarried, it cannot be adultery.
@@fh1980ram precisely!
@@thomasmaughan4798 Jesus said otherwise. Forgive me if I take His word over yours..everyday!
Best shirt yet!
Hey I refuted him with the two scriptures he used. This is such a blessing. Can't wait to hear you thoughts on this Mr. Winger.
Love me some "Neverending Story"!!! Best T-shirt ever!!! Read that book, like, 30 times growing up, and watched the movie over and over, too. On the serious note, I continue to appreciate and learn from your ministry, sir.
The movie is classic. I still remember the swamp of sadness
Neverending Story is super Satanic. What’s written on the back of the Auryn? “Do what thou wilt”, that’s the first commandment in Thelema, a type of Satanism. The author also wrote a book called The Night of Wishes: Or the Satanarchaeolidealcohellish Notion Potion, for children, among other things.
@@JohnGodwin777Yikes! I did not know that!! I loved Neverending Story but had no idea about the Satanic stuff secretly slipped in.
@@1Keldrid yeah, the whole world is saturated in it. We’re so used to it that it’s hard to notice. Spencer Smith’s third Adam series on TH-cam is a great resource to help people see what’s been hidden plain sight if you’re interested.
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Before you even said it I knew what verses this koolaid guy was going to try to use.
Does this guy know all the OT saints were saved before Jesus died?
Is that the dragon from Neverending Story? Very cool! Thanks for your channel. You are doing good work.
WOW!!! THIS T-SHIRT IS SO AMAZING! NEVERENDING STORY, SO NOSTALGIC! LOVE IT!
Hi Mike! Thank you so much for all your wisdom. In the OT, they would annoit different people or items with oil. Now, I hear about anointing your house with oil, or the forehead of people. I’m curious about in this day and age if that is biblical or if borderlines new age theology. Thank you so much!
Love an answer 2 from Canada.
Yess. The cat got my attention :)
AMAZING shirt!
Question six about worry/fear was everything I needed to hear. Since being married, newfound fear and anxiety around the potential loss of my husband has plagued me. It's a funny thing how our fickle minds often jump to the worst case scenario rather than basking in the joy of the blessing we're given. Having such a grand thing to lose is wonderful and weighty. Though I've heard it quoted many times, Jesus' words in Matthew don't always seep into my heart the way I wish they would. Hearing you read the psalms, I recognized that I have never actually told God, "even if I lost my husband, I will trust you." Saying it out loud brings me to tears, but I need my heart to understand that I will be okay because my God is greater. I'll continue practicing this over and over, coming back to the psalms as a guide. Thank you for answering this sensitive question!
"the thief on the cross".....Jesus hadn't died yet when he promised him eternal life. They got the promise pending the sacrificial payment.
Depends on how you understand the context of the word "today" and the true punctuation of that verse???
Lol
The thief was not promised eternal life only the prospect of eternal life as a wicked person. This coincides with Jesus and Paul's teachings about the resurrection of the WICKED people.
John 5:28:29
Acts 24:15
@toreyhorton1789
Luke 23:43
And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
Jesus says that the man will be with him in paradise. Sounds like eternal life to me...
@@antoniocolon1567 Depending where you put the comma, before or after "today" there may be a delay to arriving in paradise. read the original language and find there are debates about the comma!
i used to watch that Holy Koolaid guys channel right when he started it when i was an athiest, and actually thought he made good points... glad i came to my senses and completely forgot about him until now lol
CAT CAM! 🐈 😳 You have my full attention! Must. Have. MORE CAT CAM!
I LOVE the shirt! Falcor!
Christ didn't just forgive us from our sins. That wasn't the only point of the cross. The Cross was also meant to restore spiritual life back to those who would believe in the death and resurrection by sealing our eternal life with the Holy Spirit once again, since that specific connection to God had been severed by Adam and Eve when they sinned. Everything flows from the Spirit one of the main things that do is Life
Interesting hearing your perspective of Vineyard Fellowship. I was a die-hard Vineyard defender for over a decade. I'd been part of 3 different Vineyard congregations (Vancouver Vineyard [WA], Coast Vineyard [San Diego] Ramona Vineyard [Ramona, CA]) and visited multiple others [Newport, OR, Phoenix, AZ & Houston, TX]. Although it varied some from congregation to congregation it was heavily influenced by mystics, IHOPKC and Bethel Redding. I ran the bookstore at Vancouver Vineyard and know what all they stocked and sold. I pulled away from Vineyard about 10 years ago. But took an additional 5 years to really break away from the influence and teachings and to start questioning some of the teachings, manifestations and practices. When I reached out to a friend from the first Vineyard I was a member of instead of pointing me to Scripture she sent me one of the horrible "Courts of Heaven" books. I am yet to find a biblical explanation of the manifestations, nor somebody who has been able to accurately defend the manifestations as biblical.
@El_Sparks Greetings from The Couve area.
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We used to call it Vantucky.
Greetings from Texas.
The restaurant is an awesome explanation.
The holy koolaid video was already bad, and pastor mike here turned it into an amazing theology lesson. Great job pastor!
JESUS IS GOD. So he has every right to forgive sins. Even in the Old testament GOD forgave sins. So if an athiest is going to try to use the bible and quote it, then use the verse that says, that Jesus says I and God are one.
Love your t btw.
I love that first question, and I agree with you: he did pull a verse and comment on it out of context. I love your response, too.
Mike- Im diggin the Falkor shirt!
The first question does pose an interesting question. “How were people saved before Jesus’s death?” Your answer was good.
King David was sure he was going to die for his sin, but threw himself on the Lord's mercy and was saved.
He even recognized the Lord as his redeemer, the one who pays off his debt. Really amazing Christ's forgiveness can be found throughout the word!
Ephesians 1:4: “God chose us in him before the foundation of the world”.
Jesus didn’t enter the world on a mission that could fail. He didn’t say to the thief in the cross: “today you might be in paradise… assuming I die well”.
Why could he be certain about it? Because God is outside of time. He is the Author of creation, and he wrote the beginning, middle and end of the Universe simultaneously.
When you do theology, you have to take into account the fact that God exists outside the reality of spacetime.
@@AndyJMacLeodalways seemed obvious to me that god had to be outside spacetime.
I had a professor who was a pastor and he said he never heard anyone say that. i was shocked that was the case
@@AndyJMacLeod "you have to take into account the fact that God exists outside the reality of spacetime." - I made that very point in Koolaid's comment section. It's really the fatal flaw in his claim - thinking God is bound by linear time.
@@jhoughjr1 "I had a professor who was a pastor and he said he never heard anyone say that. i was shocked that was the case" - I'm surprised by the apparent ignorance in that as well. One of the atheists replying to me in Koolaid's video's comments demanded that I prove the Bible says God is independent of spacetime. For me, it's just such an obvious characteristic of the Biblical God, that it's difficult just to think it warrants a response. It's like someone demanding proof that Elvis is dead, or that the earth is round, or that the holocaust happened - somethings are just so obviously already well-established that they don't need further validation.
I think a very important aspect being missed here is that Jesus didn’t just come to forgive our sins but to break the power of the fallen sin nature off of us. The sin nature (or old man) was crucified to Christ so that we may no longer be sons and daughters of Adam, but sons and daughter of God. The blood of bulls and goats could never do this.
I can’t stop staring at your
t-shirt!
I love your Falcor shirt! Never ending story🎉 love that movie
Cool t-shirt
Hoping you’re not into Chinese dragons Mike? Or any dragons!
I see your a falkor fan , I'm more a barktroll guy myself, the Neverending story is an underrated gem
Forgiveness is bearing the pain and the sin of the other and releasing those who have wronged us. The goal of forgiveness is always reconciliation. God literally bore our sins and released us from its eternal consequences (death) and has reconciled us to himself.
The depth of the cross and how it reconciles us to God goes much deeper than any single theological construction.
I like your restaurant and payment analogy…the cross is retroactive. The Old Testament faithful share in the benefits of the cross despite the fact that Christ had not died yet.
thanks bro!
When he saw their faith Faith. Abraham was considered righteous because of his faith. Romans 4:5
At least the question is a level above the usual, “If God, why bad thing happen, hhhhhm?” atheism most nonbelievers attest.
Love the cat. Love the shirt. Love the Bible thinking. Three good things.
Mike can you please do a stream just talking about your testimony?
And no one pushes back as well because for 1 we get blocked or shadow band or 2 we get attacked by their crowd.
I’m honored to be attacked when defending my belief in Christ. However, like you mentioned, you just deletes most Christians’ comments anyway, so I don’t bother anymore. 😡
i like to think of it this way... the wages of sin are death, but when a sinless one was put to death anyway, it broke the rules and shattered the paradigm. penal substitution is a fancy way to explain this; but there was an ultimate sacrifice which upends all the old sacrificial methods
Innocent livestock was killed all the time to atone for our sin. It's not that the innocence shattered the system, it's that Jesus, as God, died in our place. We no longer die in death, only in our rejection of Jesus. This is why Jesus says we have eternal life. All who believe in Him will continue to live with Him.
@@RabbitWhiteThe the perfect sacrifice. we need only believe in it to be saved, instead of having to do another one every so often. by sacrificing the perfect offering, not only did it break the rules--that sin leads to death--but it became the Lamb of God, which is Eternal
@@brrrayday yes, but believe is proven through servitude and obedience and when we sin, we need to repent.
These actions prove our faith and belief. This is what the writers imied when they wrote, "Faith without works is dead"
Jesus also calls us to be obedient to Him, and then he says, "pick up your cross and follow me"
However i do believe in death bed conversion, and the bible does say that mamy of us will only get into heaven by the skin of our teeth. So belief is definitely enough, but Jesus calls us to more than just mere belief. He calls us to obedience, trust and servitude.
Thank you, Mike for your answer to question number 6. I too have the same fear but for my husband (been married for 6 months). I constantly worry about him driving on his way to work and getting in a car accident, etc. But your prayer suggestion is super helpful and I’m definitely going to do that from now on❤
These are by far the best cat videos I've ever seen