America’s Civil War | Irish Girl Reaction
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- Today we deep dive into an explanation of the American Civil War. In particular, this Irish Girl is interested in greater understanding the role of Abraham Lincoln, the confederacy as well as looking at what exactly "Irish Slaves" were in relation to indentured servitude.
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Agreed
The Irish (and Scots) were indentured servants - not enslaved humans. Under contract v. ownership. Huge difference. The "white slavery" nonsense has roots in the white supremist movement in the US, used to diminish the suffering of enslaved Black men, women, and children.
Understandable, tons of politics around this subject.
Good for you bring up a topic that discusses a very difficult period of US history . If FHC does get hairy your presentation will no doubt minimize it.
YES!!! TO PART 2!!!!
Interesting fact on Ulysses S Grant. In 1860 he was married with 3 children, destitute, pushing 40 years old, and had to return home to work in his fathers store. There he was a subordinate to his younger brothers. Two years later he was a Brigadier General in the Union army. Four years later he was commander in chief of all Union forces. Eight years later he was President of the United States.
Great general, but lousy president. Interesting about his father. Dad was trying to learn the "tanning" trade and moved to New York to learn it. He lived with the Brown family while learning his trade and got to know their son. His name was John Brown.
@@harvey1954 modern historians are re-evaluating Grant’s presidency. I know there were scandals in his administration but he wasn’t involved. You have to remember he was not a lifetime politician. He arrived in Washington DC without any political connections. I think some of his more corrupt cabinet members took advantage of that. Also he was the only guy between Lincoln and Lyndon Johnson (1960’s) that tried to uphold civil rights for blacks while in office. Grant crushed the newly emerged KKK during reconstruction. That’s why you see a sprinkling of black congressmen from the south in the late 1860s, early 1870s.
@@thewiseoldherper7047 He was still the guy ultimately in charge so he has to take the blame for scandals that happened under his watch. Have you forgotten his anti-Semitic order that Jews were not allowed in certain states during the Civil War? He ended up having to apologize to different Jewish groups when he ran for office.
@@harvey1954 That was a mistake. However it was rescinded quickly. Grant tried to make up for that during his presidency by appointing many Jews to his administration.
@@harvey1954 - Are you saying, as it seems you are, that Ulysses S Grant's father knew 'the' John Brown? If so, that's news to me, and interesting, if true.
One of Lincoln best lines during the war was, "If General McClellan does not want to use the army, I would like to borrow it for a time."
Diane, in 1807, a law was passed stopping the importation of more slaves, driving the value of existing slaves up to from $500-$1500. In about 1832, New Orleans wanted to build a canal going from Lake Pontchartrain to the city. Since slaves were now so valuable, Irishmen were hired to clear the trees and dig the canal with axes, picks, shovels and wheelbarrows. They were paid about $20 a month and fed for another $6.20. Many died from cholera, malaria and other causes from working a swamp. So, while not slaves, they were not treated very well.
In NYC the Irish were paid less than free blacks, but they could also be drafted for the Civil War. Free blacks had no such worry. This is what led to the Draft Riots right after Gettysburg.
What really made slaves valuable was Eli Whitney's invention of the cotton gin in 1793. That invention made cotton a profitable crop to grow, since it made it easy to separate the cotton fiber from the seeds. Cotton's newfound profitability, along with the fact that the blacks from west Africa were the only ones who knew how to cultivate rice in America, made slavery likewise profitable. Otherwise, slavery might have died out in the South, just as it had in the North.
If $20/month was the actual wage the Irish were paid in the 1830s, that's actually pretty good money. White private soldiers in the Union Army in the Civil War 30 years later got $13 per month (black privates effectively got $7/month until 1864).
It was also far more likely that the Irishman would be chosen to do those dangerous jobs which had a high probability of injury or death. Slaves were too expensive. If the Irishman died doing the job, big deal, you would just go and pluck another one up off the streets. There was an endless supply.
To be as absolutely blunt as possible, what do you treat better? Something you own, or something you're only renting? So Southern planters careful not damage their investment. But rented slaves like the Irish? Worked to death.
Yet,Randy,they had the freedom to work else where if they didn't like the wages they were paid.Black slaves were raped by their masters ( both men & women) on a continual basis and this continued LONG after the Civil War.Black women were routinely raped/gang-raped by white males all the way till the 60s.If a case did go to trial an all white jury would find them not-guilty.This is a part of southern-heritage no one talks about,the ability to ravage black women on a wim.
"A house divided against itself cannot stand" is often attributed to Lincoln, but he was quoting the Bible at the time. He didn't need to point that out in his speeches, because most people in his audiences knew, where it came from.
It is sad that today, so many have to be told that. It is from Jesus's reply to the accusation that he was from the Satan not God.
Psalm 22 "My God My God why have you forsaken me?.... bulls of bashan surround me they pierce my hands and feet.... they cast lots for my garments... "“He trusts in the Lord,” they say,
“let the Lord rescue him.(R)
Let him deliver him,(S)
since he delights(T) in him.” "I am poured out like water" etc like with other passages in the psalms, genesis, (including theophany appearances in the torah) Isaiah, Zechariah, Daniel, Proverbs etc are considered messianic in rabbinic Judaism as the suffering servant messiah Ben Joseph, and to Christianity as Yeshua, Jesus bless you ❤
Edit: To expand on this is of course Isaiah 53 where you have the servant being crushed by God as an offering for sin for others, who dies and sees life and his seed afterwards, who dies with thieves and in a rich man's tomb, and who was despised and rejected, so why there is a common view of two messiahs, Ben yosef and Ben David, one messiah as the suffering servant and another as the conqueror who sets up the kingdom. Isaiah 52 the messiah draws Israel back to himself.
Some fun and sad things are like people would say Jesus didn't exist despite Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the younger, Lucian etc and the apostles writings and the successors/church fathers of the apostles/bishops writings and josephus, because "Nazareth doesn't exist" until of course Nazareth was discovered, or another one, "there was no synagogue in capnernaum" until we found it, or Thomas Payne in age of reason "Bible is false because there were no kings during Jesus's time" until we found King Herod Agrippa's coins, or "Jesus wasn't buried in a tomb because crucifixion victims weren't buried in tombs" until we found crucifixion victims with the nails still in tombs in tombs.
More cool things, are Jesus sweating blood in the garden of Gethsemane, this is a real phenomenon called Hematidrosis where death row inmates sweat blood, also another when Jesus is pierced and water and blood come out this actually happens when water builds around the lungs, it confused some early church fathers on the spiritual meaning, but it's a real phenomenon that occurs as well. Many rabbis into gematria etc say there is a curse upon reading Daniel 9 because it says Messiah The Prince must come and bring in eternal righteousness before the destruction of Solomon's temple, no wonder they say that as then if Messiah didn't come before 70 a.d. there is no messiah, those who have divided messiah into two were confused if the messiah would come riding on a donkey or horse, so the two messiahs, as opposed to the jews who believe in Jesus and himself, who state himself and two arrivals. Of course this is why Islam falls quickly because while they call Jesus messiah they don't understand what it means, and Muhammad of course denied the historical fact of Jesus dying by crucifixion (Which besides tacitus mentioning pontius pilate doing it to him, we even have an inscription that was uncovered oh pilate and dates lining up with his time being the procurator/prefect over Jerusalem) besides Muhammad being the total opposite of Jesus, Muhammad had sex with his child bride Aisha who was nine, he beheaded and crucified people, said not to trust jews and Christians, he had Ethiopian slaves and called them raisin heads, he called jews monkeys and rats, he slaughtered villages and the wives of families he killed said you can take them and have sex with them, he got caught having sex with his slave by Aisha and said he would not do it anymore then conveniently "Allah" comes and says it's fine and he can, he's a textbook false prophet, with of course takiyah being they will lie to you about what I said above, Islam is meant to subjugate the world I'd into belief by force, if you don't convert you must pay a tax, if you don't pay it you die. Allah has no love for unbelievers unlike Jesus who loves his enemies and we are meant to love all even to death, I'd write more but youtube doesn't like long messages, with eastern thought eternal universe doesn't fit the mold because and infinite amount of successive events becoming then impossible to have the present, we would never reach today because we would always have a yesterday or event before this moment, an immaterial, spaceless, timeless, mind (agency) bringing space-time into reality, is the best explanation for why anything exists including someone as amazing and as lovely as yourself 😊 So the disciples who say "For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty." And "13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is worthless, and so is your faith. 15In that case, we are also exposed as false witnesses about God. For we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead, but He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised.
16For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If our hope in Christ is for this life alone, we are to be pitied more than all men. But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep." Since the witnesses knew whether or not they were lying and knew what it would mean to continue to say he did in fact rise and is the Messiah and God in the flesh then yes I believe them as The Messiah had to come during that time, a mind/agency creating the universe is the best cause for reality, Jesus is the most moral, truthful and charismatic and loving and honest person there is, and the most important and influential, (Buddha said he was still searching for truth, Jesus say, "I am the truth, the way and the life") Jesus gives us love and salvation as a gift without earned merit by us, not working our way to the truth or God or eternal destiny through every other religious and spiritual framework, he loves you and cares so much for you before he created you and wants a living relationship with you here and now not just after you die 😊 There's a million other things to cover that I want to say but this is probably a good stopping point but Jesis wants to remove the shadow in your life and Jesus wants you as you are right now he wants your heart and to live in you and you to know his love personally 😊 I had people prophesy over me very specific things nobody else knew about my past, things I was thinking or experienced even just the day before, Jesus healed me of sleep paralysis I had for years, depression and loneliness, I had a dream of a woman named Heather and a voice telling me their dad had died, a couple days later i meet them and they tell me about how they had just lost their dad that week, I feel God telling me to sit down and close my eyes and I see an outline of someone going to the bathroom very bizarre, then shortly after someone out of the blue asking me to pray for them as they are having trouble going to the bathroom, another was I ask Jesus alone "are you my buddy?" A couple hours later someone contacts me and they say "Yes Jesus is saying yes he is your buddy" another time was I obsessing a little over this blue suit and someone prophecies "I see you in this blue suit" etc, another time I was testing this whole thing and I'm about to be prophecied over and I have my Google notes out I had tried writing out a little story and it was about a fire and forest being burnt down and I ask God to confirm if he wants me to write this and sort of as a test because everything had been scary accurate and the person right after says "God wants you to be his little stick lit ablaze with his love, it may not seem like much but one small flame can burn down a whole forest" 😂 another one was I had this. Surreal vision looking at stars, shortly after someone messages me saying Jesus is looking at a telescope with you saying to you "everything I have is yours even the stars" another one I was in the bathroom asking God for a message for my friend Moses in Nigeria and as I'm leaving the bathroom i freeze in place and go into this bizarre trance like Peter in the book of acts and I see my friend Moses as a child playing with a toy firetruck and Jesus sitting next to him with love, I quickly tell them and they are in shock as they had just thrown away that toy that same day, another time I had gotten a word from God about someone close to me who hadn't accepted Jesus and that they had been praying to God secretly, I told them that and the look on their face was priceless as I had no idea they had been praying to God at all, they were shook 😄 this is only a handful of many a 100 times in just the last 12 months after 5 years of me being born again, there's so many more amazing things that have happened but you are beautiful and desired of God, he is a gentleman and will not force you to choose him or love him but he loves so so much, he's asking you if you will come, he will love you and cherish you everyday of your life, he will never abandon you, I beg you to take a chance and not reject God's love for you, he wants to heal you and you to enjoy a living relationship between you, God bless you so much, Jesus says to come to him for rest your weary soul he is humble and meek and tender and gentle, he loves you so much he knows everything about you, nothing about you is unimportant to him 😭❤❤ If you repent and call on his name you will be saved from hell and Jesus's wrath and judgement for all have sinned!! ❤ For God so loved The World that gave his only begotten son that whoever should believe in him will not perish but have eternal life!! 💙🙌🏻 repent all have sinned and fallen short!!❤️🔥❤♥️❤❤
Everything I wrote really happened to me another time is I had just woken up and before my eyes like a lens or movie against my eyes wide awake I saw black women vacuuming and cleaning in a room and then it faded off and shortly after my friend from Nigeria messaged me about sisters he had never told me before and whose aunt was mistreating them and forcing them to work at a hotel and he had never shared this knowledge before and so we contacted child services, another time a woman I never met before God told me to tell them their mammogram would go well I didn't even know what a mammogram was and they cried and told me they had just gotten one and then later the results came back negative, so many other times too Jesus is alive and real and loves you he wants to bring you from spiritual death to life his life and spiritually adopt you he loves you so much he had always seen you and loved you I pray you recieve his forgiveness and love and freedom from condemnation the world is already condemned and he came to set you free! his arms are wide open! You can recieve him now wherever you are and he'll never reject you or abandon you when you are his! He gave his life up for you and to recieve you he is the truth and the real deal! Jesus bless you! He wants you to know him! He'll never force it he wants you to freely come to him he desires you to enter a loving relationship with him and give you peace! 🙏✝️❤ If you desire to email me you can at mileslmog@outlook.com but you don't need to go through anyone Jesus is there already beside you waiting for you! May you accept his love and forgiveness and a new life and new future! ❤✝️❤️❤❤❤
@@meboernerPsalm 22 "My God My God why have you forsaken me?.... bulls of bashan surround me they pierce my hands and feet.... they cast lots for my garments... "“He trusts in the Lord,” they say,
“let the Lord rescue him.(R)
Let him deliver him,(S)
since he delights(T) in him.” "I am poured out like water" etc like with other passages in the psalms, genesis, (including theophany appearances in the torah) Isaiah, Zechariah, Daniel, Proverbs etc are considered messianic in rabbinic Judaism as the suffering servant messiah Ben Joseph, and to Christianity as Yeshua, Jesus bless you ❤
Edit: To expand on this is of course Isaiah 53 where you have the servant being crushed by God as an offering for sin for others, who dies and sees life and his seed afterwards, who dies with thieves and in a rich man's tomb, and who was despised and rejected, so why there is a common view of two messiahs, Ben yosef and Ben David, one messiah as the suffering servant and another as the conqueror who sets up the kingdom. Isaiah 52 the messiah draws Israel back to himself.
Some fun and sad things are like people would say Jesus didn't exist despite Tacitus, Suetonius, Pliny the younger, Lucian etc and the apostles writings and the successors/church fathers of the apostles/bishops writings and josephus, because "Nazareth doesn't exist" until of course Nazareth was discovered, or another one, "there was no synagogue in capnernaum" until we found it, or Thomas Payne in age of reason "Bible is false because there were no kings during Jesus's time" until we found King Herod Agrippa's coins, or "Jesus wasn't buried in a tomb because crucifixion victims weren't buried in tombs" until we found crucifixion victims with the nails still in tombs in tombs.
More cool things, are Jesus sweating blood in the garden of Gethsemane, this is a real phenomenon called Hematidrosis where death row inmates sweat blood, also another when Jesus is pierced and water and blood come out this actually happens when water builds around the lungs, it confused some early church fathers on the spiritual meaning, but it's a real phenomenon that occurs as well. Many rabbis into gematria etc say there is a curse upon reading Daniel 9 because it says Messiah The Prince must come and bring in eternal righteousness before the destruction of Solomon's temple, no wonder they say that as then if Messiah didn't come before 70 a.d. there is no messiah, those who have divided messiah into two were confused if the messiah would come riding on a donkey or horse, so the two messiahs, as opposed to the jews who believe in Jesus and himself, who state himself and two arrivals. Of course this is why Islam falls quickly because while they call Jesus messiah they don't understand what it means, and Muhammad of course denied the historical fact of Jesus dying by crucifixion (Which besides tacitus mentioning pontius pilate doing it to him, we even have an inscription that was uncovered oh pilate and dates lining up with his time being the procurator/prefect over Jerusalem) besides Muhammad being the total opposite of Jesus, Muhammad had sex with his child bride Aisha who was nine, he beheaded and crucified people, said not to trust jews and Christians, he had Ethiopian slaves and called them raisin heads, he called jews monkeys and rats, he slaughtered villages and the wives of families he killed said you can take them and have sex with them, he got caught having sex with his slave by Aisha and said he would not do it anymore then conveniently "Allah" comes and says it's fine and he can, he's a textbook false prophet, with of course takiyah being they will lie to you about what I said above, Islam is meant to subjugate the world I'd into belief by force, if you don't convert you must pay a tax, if you don't pay it you die. Allah has no love for unbelievers unlike Jesus who loves his enemies and we are meant to love all even to death, I'd write more but youtube doesn't like long messages, with eastern thought eternal universe doesn't fit the mold because and infinite amount of successive events becoming then impossible to have the present, we would never reach today because we would always have a yesterday or event before this moment, an immaterial, spaceless, timeless, mind (agency) bringing space-time into reality, is the best explanation for why anything exists including someone as amazing and as lovely as yourself 😊 So the disciples who say "For we did not follow cleverly devised stories when we told you about the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ in power, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty." And "13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is worthless, and so is your faith. 15In that case, we are also exposed as false witnesses about God. For we have testified about God that He raised Christ from the dead, but He did not raise Him if in fact the dead are not raised.
16For if the dead are not raised, then not even Christ has been raised. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If our hope in Christ is for this life alone, we are to be pitied more than all men. But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep." Since the witnesses knew whether or not they were lying and knew what it would mean to continue to say he did in fact rise and is the Messiah and God in the flesh then yes I believe them as The Messiah had to come during that time, a mind/agency creating the universe is the best cause for reality, Jesus is the most moral, truthful and charismatic and loving and honest person there is, and the most important and influential, (Buddha said he was still searching for truth, Jesus say, "I am the truth, the way and the life") Jesus gives us love and salvation as a gift without earned merit by us, not working our way to the truth or God or eternal destiny through every other religious and spiritual framework, he loves you and cares so much for you before he created you and wants a living relationship with you here and now not just after you die 😊 There's a million other things to cover that I want to say but this is probably a good stopping point but Jesis wants to remove the shadow in your life and Jesus wants you as you are right now he wants your heart and to live in you and you to know his love personally 😊 I had people prophesy over me very specific things nobody else knew about my past, things I was thinking or experienced even just the day before, Jesus healed me of sleep paralysis I had for years, depression and loneliness, I had a dream of a woman named Heather and a voice telling me their dad had died, a couple days later i meet them and they tell me about how they had just lost their dad that week, I feel God telling me to sit down and close my eyes and I see an outline of someone going to the bathroom very bizarre, then shortly after someone out of the blue asking me to pray for them as they are having trouble going to the bathroom, another was I ask Jesus alone "are you my buddy?" A couple hours later someone contacts me and they say "Yes Jesus is saying yes he is your buddy" another time was I obsessing a little over this blue suit and someone prophecies "I see you in this blue suit" etc, another time I was testing this whole thing and I'm about to be prophecied over and I have my Google notes out I had tried writing out a little story and it was about a fire and forest being burnt down and I ask God to confirm if he wants me to write this and sort of as a test because everything had been scary accurate and the person right after says "God wants you to be his little stick lit ablaze with his love, it may not seem like much but one small flame can burn down a whole forest" 😂 another one was I had this. Surreal vision looking at stars, shortly after someone messages me saying Jesus is looking at a telescope with you saying to you "everything I have is yours even the stars" another one I was in the bathroom asking God for a message for my friend Moses in Nigeria and as I'm leaving the bathroom i freeze in place and go into this bizarre trance like Peter in the book of acts and I see my friend Moses as a child playing with a toy firetruck and Jesus sitting next to him with love, I quickly tell them and they are in shock as they had just thrown away that toy that same day, another time I had gotten a word from God about someone close to me who hadn't accepted Jesus and that they had been praying to God secretly, I told them that and the look on their face was priceless as I had no idea they had been praying to God at all, they were shook 😄 this is only a handful of many a 100 times in just the last 12 months after 5 years of me being born again, there's so many more amazing things that have happened but you are beautiful and desired of God, he is a gentleman and will not force you to choose him or love him but he loves so so much, he's asking you if you will come, he will love you and cherish you everyday of your life, he will never abandon you, I beg you to take a chance and not reject God's love for you, he wants to heal you and you to enjoy a living relationship between you, God bless you so much, Jesus says to come to him for rest your weary soul he is humble and meek and tender and gentle, he loves you so much he knows everything about you, nothing about you is unimportant to him 😭❤❤ If you repent and call on his name you will be saved from hell and Jesus's wrath and judgement for all have sinned!! ❤ For God so loved The World that gave his only begotten son that whoever should believe in him will not perish but have eternal life!! 💙🙌🏻 repent all have sinned and fallen short!!❤️🔥❤♥️❤❤❤❤
Everything I wrote really happened to me another time is I had just woken up and before my eyes like a lens or movie against my eyes wide awake I saw black women vacuuming and cleaning in a room and then it faded off and shortly after my friend from Nigeria messaged me about sisters he had never told me before and whose aunt was mistreating them and forcing them to work at a hotel and he had never shared this knowledge before and so we contacted child services, another time a woman I never met before God told me to tell them their mammogram would go well I didn't even know what a mammogram was and they cried and told me they had just gotten one and then later the results came back negative, so many other times too Jesus is alive and real and loves you he wants to bring you from spiritual death to life his life and spiritually adopt you he loves you so much he had always seen you and loved you I pray you recieve his forgiveness and love and freedom from condemnation the world is already condemned and he came to set you free! his arms are wide open! You can recieve him now wherever you are and he'll never reject you or abandon you when you are his! He gave his life up for you and to recieve you he is the truth and the real deal! Jesus bless you! He wants you to know him! He'll never force it he wants you to freely come to him he desires you to enter a loving relationship with him and give you peace! 🙏✝️❤ If you desire to email me you can at mileslmog@outlook.com but you don't need to go through anyone Jesus is there already beside you waiting for you! May you accept his love and forgiveness and a new life and new future! ❤✝️❤️❤❤
Kens Burns “The Civil War” is the best series on the American Civil War. Missouri was to the American Civil War what Poland was to WW2, they got invaded by everyone.
Ken burns…. Is he the guy who invented the slow pan in on iMovie?
@@DianeJennings Yes!
Y'know what? All of the documentaries that Ken Burns has directed &/or produced are amazing. He has a gift for making factual information entertaining.
@@twenty3enigma He’s a great story teller.
That series give a very distorted view of the war. For one thing, it give the east far more attention than the west, where the war was won. But there weren't as many photographers working in the west, so the east gets the attention in a visual medium.
Something you might appreciate Diane -Some of the best fighting units on both sides of the War were Irish immigrants. When Lee surrendered at Appomattox a Union Irish soldier met his counterpart Irishman in the Confederate army. They warmly embraced; the Confederate Irishman opined that the reason that the Federal army won - was they that they had more Irishman!
Yep. Most of the North's Irish soldiers were gang members out of NYC - which is essentially the basis for the movie "The Gangs of New York." And if I'm not mistaken, it was discovered that the crew of the C.S.S. Hunley - a Confederate sub that took on water and sank - was composed of Irishmen.
Indeed, my great-great-great grandfather served with the New York 69th himself, supposedly he was in almost every battle from the units conception.
Yup. That's how my family immigrated to the U.S. My great-grandfather's grandfather was hired by a man to fight in his place and given land in Missouri if he survived. McNeelys have been in Missouri ever since. LOL
@@johndavis7766 "Most" is a vast overstatement. "Some" would be more accurate. Don't let a Hollywood movie skew your reality. There were many Irish immigrants who fought in the CW who were not from NYC at all, let alone "gang members". Many Irish immigrants of that era had been farmers in Ireland. That's all they knew, so that's what they did once they arrived in the US, particularly sharecropping.
My dad's side of the family arrived in the US during the Irish immigrant wave of the 1840s and '50s, and were farming in Ohio by the time the CW began. Small town and rural catholic cemeteries in Ohio from the mid-late 1800s are full of Irish immigrants from that era. After arriving from Ireland in the 1840s, and before coming farther west to Ohio, part of my dad's family had briefly lived in a small farming town in upstate New York.
Another part of my family arrived in the US from Ireland via New Orleans, worked on the levees in N.O. only long enough to save up enough money to come up the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers by steamboat, and settled in and around their ultimate goal, the Irish farming towns of SW Ohio where they congregated and intermarried with other recent Irish arrivals. Many of them served in Ohio regiments during the war.
Massachusetts and Pennsylvania also famously contributed many recent Irish arrivals to the Union war effort.
Lots of Irish brigades from New York, Massachusetts and Pennsylvania
My ancestor that came here from Ireland (cork county I think) in 1772 came as an indentured servant. He fought the British in the American Revolution. He was captured and eventually released after we won. He drew pay for his time and bought a farm.
Diane the official name of the southern states was The Confederate States of America and as another commenter mentioned the Ken Burns documentary The Civil War is fantastic. Ken Burns has done a bunch of fantastic documentaries about America ranging from Baseball, our National Parks to Country Music. They're rather long several in multiple 2 hr installments but OH so worth the time
Facts: The American Civil War was an illegal coup against the United States of America. The "rebels" as they were called were based mainly in the south, they fought the U.S.A. After the war the Supreme Court (White vs Tx) determined the south was criminal in it's actions, as the Constitution has no provision for succession. Lincoln was prepared to charge the Rebel leaders with war crimes and treason, but was talked out of it in an attempt to heal and reunite the nation. Many places in the South still display the Confederate flag, and monuments to Southern Generals. It is despicable, these men attacked the USA.
Totally agree, Ken Burns is my favorite documentarian! Letters from the Civil War were amazing, and quite touching.
Country Music was especially well done, I thought. Ken Burns is a national treasure.
Definitely check out national parks America’s best idea. Yosemite
His jazz series is also incredible. Was a pretty casual jazz fan before watching, after watching it Jazz is probably the thing im most patriotic about lol
You definitely need to watch part 2. Even though you already know who won, there are still plot twists that you're going to find interesting. Go for it!
The thing that’s not mentioned is that many of the generals and leaders from both sides had gone to West Point college and/or fought together in the Mexican-American war and knew each other well.
To build on what you're saying, Lee was a graduate of West Point Military Academy and graduated with honors. He gained his commission - as one would expect of any military academy graduate - and served in the U.S. Army as an engineer. When the war started, he was offered a General commission by the president but he declined because of his ties to Virginia. He was actually against slavery and was for everything the North wanted to achieve but he accepted the General rank for the Confederate army simply because he - like many other people in his position - didn't want to face the possibility of having to kill one of their own. Lee surrendered because he saw the war was resulting in too many needless deaths on both sides and he knew that it had become unwinnable for the CSA. In the end, he was - and still is - regarded as a war hero on BOTH sides. He was the founder of the Virginia Military Institute which still produces American military officers to this day and he is even interred there. He actually lived a good life after the war. He was my fav military leader ever, so I learned as much about him as I possibly could. A lot of people don't know this but he even participated in some boat racing back in the 1870's in Western KY.
They knew one another's tactics well too.
Ahh, one thing that a lot of folks tend to leave out about the Indentured Servitude is that more often than not they would have their room and board added to their dept thus making it an endless pit they would be trying to dig themsleves out of.
That happened to the freed slaves when they continued working on plantations in the fields,it was called-SHARE-CROPING.
Outlined beautifully in "Tennessee" Ernie Ford's song '16 Tons.'
🎶"Saint Peter, don't you call me, 'cause I can't go! I owe my soul to the Company Store."🎵
Basically, debt slavery
@@powerbad696 - True, that.
@@TheLastGarou - A perfect reference of the despicable.
Definitely you should do part two! Also one of my favorite Lincoln quotes comes out of his frustration with McClellan. "General McClellan, if you are not going to use the army, I should like to borrow it."
Definitely need a part 2. The Battle of Gettysburg was the most important battle of the war and is not touched on yet.
And we haven't met General Lee or General Sherman yet either. Just getting good.
McClellan's problem? He had aspirations of becoming President of the United States and viewed any defeat as a roadblock to that goal. In fact, he believed a loss would end it all, even with several wins under his belt...so he tempered his powerful Army of the Potomac and failed to take any risks.
Do part 2. Absolutely. Not only are you right about how good this channel is, I just love watching your reactions to learning about US history.
The effects of the Civil War still linger today. My Southern mother-in-law asked me which side my family fought on. I told her I didn't know if anyone in my family was in the military at the time, but they would have fought for the British since they did not come to the US until around 1900.
I'm lucky, my only ancestors that were here at the time were Cherokee.
I don't really take sides, I had family on both sides, my family ranged from pro North or South Missouri militia, regulars, and one Cherokee ancestor in the CSA's Volunteer Cherokee mounted Rifles.
This was a great watch Diane, love these.
I hope that you are having a great week, take care.
PS You have to do a part 2 so we will know who wins
When the attack on Fort Sumter happened there were only 7 states in the Confederate States of America. When Lincoln called for 75,000 volunteers to put down the "rebellion" that resulted in four more southern states succeeding and joining the Confederacy.
I always love watching these with others. I'd love to see to see you do Part 2.
Oh boy! I've wanted to see your reaction to this for a long time!
Those were KFC buckets, not popcorn buckets. It's because he grew up in Kentucky.
Jefferson did condemn slavery in the Declaration of Independence (not the Constitution), even though he himself had slaves. Most of the founders were slaveholders. Notably, John Adams wasn't, although he had his own problems with respect to civil rights.
Lincoln was a pragmatist. He rarely took absolute positions, but instead would push things as far as he thought he could get away with. That's why he didn't push to outlaw slavery until the war was well underway. He didn't want to alienate the border states that hadn't seceded, and he was worried that white soldiers wouldn't fight a war to end slavery. But when he got the chance, he did use black troops, declared the slaves in rebel territories to be free, and pushed for a Constitutional amendment to outlaw slavery entirely.
The collective name of the the states that seceded was the Confederate States of America. The name was a callback to the period between the end of the American Revolution and the ratification of the Constitution, when the national government was organized under a document called the Articles of Confederation. The national government was very weak under this system, and the Confederates wanted a return to a weak central government.
I really, really, really want to see you do Part 2. Thanks!
It is not fair to say that most of the founders held slaves. Most, if not all, of the southerners did. Most, if not all, of the northerners did not. Decades before, Ben Franklin had, in fact, sold slaves out of his book store. He eventually gave up the practice of course.
@@odysseusrex5908 41 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence owned slaves. That includes northerners like Samuel Adams and John Hancock. Some of them (like Hancock) eventually freed their slaves, and it's true that slavery was more common in the south, but it was far from rare in the north.
@@Jeff_Lichtman 41 out of 56? Can you please point me toward a reference for that figure?
@@odysseusrex5908 I have tried three times to post a reply to this, and each time TH-cam has deleted it. This is my fourth attempt.
There's an article in the Chicago Sun-Times about a famous painting titled Declaration of Independence, in which an analysis showed that 34 of the 47 men in the painting were slaveowners. You can find it by searching for "chicago sun times declaration parsa".
Of those depicted, five were not signers of the Declaration:
Charles Thomson
George Clinton
John Dickinson
Robert R. Livingston
Thomas Willing
Of those, only Charles Thomson was not a slaveowner, which means 4 were slaveowners. So of the 42 signers in the painting, 30 were slaveowners.
I looked up the names of the signers not shown in the painting, and determined which owned slaves. The following were not slaveowners:
John Morton
James Smith
Matthew Thornton (I found conflicting information about whether he owned slaves, so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt).
The following 11 did own slaves:
Carter Braxton
Button Gwinett
Lyman Hall
John Hart
Francis Lightfoot Lee
Thomas Nelson, Jr.
John Penn
Caesar Rodney
George Ross
Thomas Stone
George Taylor
You can verify my results by searching for "did own slaves".
That's 41 slaveowners of the 56 signers.
I did make one mistake. Samuel Adams did not own slaves (apparently there was a different Samuel Adams was a slaveowner).
I wonder if Diane even knows that KFC was once Kentucky Fried Chicken. It's been a while since they made the name more anonymous.
My Dad's family, after came over from Ireland in 1851, A 25 year indenture was usually a life sentence
7 years was the standard length of servitude.
@@harvey1954 true but many lasted well over that or worked to death to avoid giving up land
Indentured servitude was long gone by 1851.
Robert E Lee's home was just outside of Washington DC, and is now where the US National cemetery of Arlington is located
The DC area has a lot of Civil War historic sites, including Manassas National Battlefield. I took a tour there that was led by a Park Ranger, and it was fascinating!
During the war, the South named battles after the nearest body of water, and the North after the nearest city. Bull Run is a stream near Manassas, so the Battle of Bull Run and the Battle of Manassas were the same battle. There were two battles at that site - one at the start of the war, and the other at the end.
True story: a farmer whose land included the Manassas battlefield moved to get away from the war. His new house was where the surrender was signed in 1865.
Good, but you got the naming conventions backwards. In the South it was the Battle of Manassas, and in the North it was the Battle of Bull Run (with two battles of the same name in different years, as it happened. Same for Antietam/Sharpsburg.
@@robdgaming Thank you for the correction! I should have been less specific, since my memory of the details was shaky.
Indeed, it was at Robert e. Lee's mansion still behind union lines that got turned into a hospital for the wounded and eventually the grounds became Arlington National Cemetary.
I remember learning from other sources that general McClellan is recognized as being a very timid commander which is why it led to him not engaging the confederacy the way it was supposed to but despite all of that he did help train the union army and helped to restructure the union military
These oversimplified videos are always fun to watch. I had a few ancestors that fought on the union side although they were from Kentucky which was mostly neutral. Check out Stone Mountain Georgia where there’s a civil war monument carved in the side of the mountain. Thanks for sharing this! ❤️U☘️🇮🇪🇺🇸
Stone Mountain will exist until the woke jokes cry enough to get it cancelled.
@@kevinkrichie Yes, yes, yes, keep traitors and slavers up on Stone Mountain so that the South can remember their heritage of treachery and their attempt to destroy the United States to keep an unfettered chattel slavery in practice. April is officially treason season, remember to burn a southern cross flag also known as the traitor's rag.
You know how ingrained the Confederacy's tyrannical white ethno-state was, even afterwards up of the white heroes of the underground railroad couldn't come out because their fellow Southerners would have tortured them to death for being race traitors. The Confederates States of America with their founding documents reason for existence was to impose a draconian racial order, and anyone who denies the primary sources of 1861 that declares that was CSA's original purpose is a white nationalist apologist and a compulsive liar.
Keep the white supremacist from using it as a gathering site!
Not only Stone Mountain, but Kennesaw Mountain in Marietta, GA. It was a small battle, but fascinating nonetheless. Side note, Kennesaw Mountain Landis (yes, he was named after it) was the first commissioners Major League Baseball.
@@TheGenXInfluencer Yes! I have a cousin In Marietta.
I got to say a refreshing thing I have noted in your reactions is that you not only cut to you editing it later and giving commentary but you really only pause if you feel it's necessary. As well as I notice slight little jumps in the video, but it's never jarring. You show a majority of the content. Great videos Las.
Side note: you can also tell your paying attention and learning as you watch. Just as we did watching the videos for the first time. Lol.
I had American history twice in elementary/ high school (not a left back, but that's what the curriculum was😊) and again in college. The story was pretty much the same. This video explained so much more in 22 minutes than all other classes combined! Thanks, and yes Please part 2
In the film "Lincoln" (2012), Daniel Day-Lewis as Lincoln gives an interesting thumbnail sketch of the president's thinking in issuing the Emancipation Proclamation as a war time measure as well as his concerns about whether courts might strike down the measure once the war ended. There was also the fact that the terms of the proclamation had not freed every slave held in the South and none who were still held in the North--of which there were still a few. Thus Lincoln's desire to pass the 13th Amendment to the Constitution.
The 2012 movie about Lincoln starred Benjamin Walker.
@@morielrorschach8090 I stand corrected. 😉
Too bad woke America and our idiotic government won't recognize the fact that there were still slaves in the North past "Juneteenth", the holiday they declared as the end of all slavery in America. A blatant lie known by anyone who isn't a moron, brainwashed by revisionist history.
@@johnsample7391 (since unspoken humor is lost online, I just wanted to specify: there were two "Lincoln" movies made that year. One more entertaining than the other)
I would add that it didn’t end slavery in the four slave states that didn’t leave the Union either. Only in those which rebelled.
Happy Wednesday to you Diane! Looking lovely as always! I'm always fascinated by history and I'm a big believer that those who don't learn from it are doomed to repeat it. There's still people out there that are still bitter about the North defeating the South. You can't undo what's already been done, especially when it comes to a war such as that. Thanks for sharing this video. I hope that you have a great rest of your week! 😎✌️♥️
Thank you!
@@DianeJennings You're welcome! The pleasure is all mine! ✌️😎♥️
@@DianeJennings I can't wait until we get The Reign of Editor Diane oversimplified....where I can sign up my young tender body as a concubine
@@DianeJennings I’m a Cuban black male who love World History, I never sow the slavery as big issue because I have different races in my veins. In the Caribbean Spanish whites and blacks are blended, of course in some cities the whites didn’t mix and remained Spaniard descendants, you can see that in the whole Spaniard colonies, from Mexico to Argentina-Chile. That’s another story.
When I came to this country I started to see the racial problem as big worry. I started to fill the hate toward me and my family from the African American. I married with a white woman for 30 years and I have colored kids. We never put on the table the racism problem, that’s not healthy for anyone. We have bad experiences with the African American, I remember one time we went to Philadelphia more than 15 years ago to an Amusement park, I’ll never forget that. We tried to reach some seats because some show almost went to start and one African American woman was there with her daughter( the kid was around 6 ) I put my daughter close to her daughter and that woman pulled her daughter really strong and was looking to us with hate.
We’re being in the “ South “ a few times. Here in the North the people are talking all the time about the racism in the South and I didn’t see that problem. It’s not the same traveling in a plane or by car, there’s big difference. I think you can’t erase events that happened so easily, especially when those events take years. We were crossing Virginia and we saw a big Confederate flag over a hill, it wasn’t regular size was a huge flag, we continue to travel and reached Myrtle Beach, in every corner you can see the Confederate flags in beach towels, souvenirs. We stayed for a week and the most important we didn’t see any white peoples treated us in bad way and that count for me.
So the Civil war marked several States, it wasn’t two or three cities, the division is still there and you can see and fill the pride.
See you blondie 😊
One of my northern Irish ancestors was a criminal who was brought to Cuba on a prison ship and sold into indentured servitude. He died in servitude, but his son was free and moved to the USA. That’s one big difference between indentured servitude and Chattel Slavery. The children of indentured servants aren’t property.
I also have a hand written note from a man to my great great grandpa. The note is a work contract. The man said he would work for so many years to pay off his debt as long as grandpa would provide a room and food for him.
I am a volunteer at Manassas National Battlefield Park in Northern Virginia. Two Civil War battles took place within the confines of the park. First Manassas -- or First Bull Run -- was fought on July 21, 1861 and was the first major battle of the Civil War. Second Manassas was fought between August 28 and 30. It was Robert E. Lee's first major victory.
I wouldn't make too much of a comparison between indentured servitude and slavery. Slavery was permanent(in the vast majority of cases). Indentured servitude wasn't.
The Civil War was the start of the slow acceptance of Irish-Americans into our society. There was a lot of xenophobia toward the Irish in the 19th century, largely due to their ties to Catholicism but the ones who did assimilate and served in the war started to be accepted.
There remained a lot of anti-Catholic bigotry for a long time. In fact, when he was running to ultimately be our first Catholic president in 1960, John F. Kennedy had to deal with a lot of questions about whether he supported the separation of church and state because people were still concerned that Catholics were more loyal to Rome than to the laws and the Constitution.
For a very long time after the Civil War there were NINA signs in store fronts and newspapers that were looking to hire. NINA being No Irish Need Apply. Most Irish ended up working farms, as police, early boxers, or working for railway companies.
@@dardell2001 True. There were even places that accepted blacks to hire, but no Irish need apply.
Thanks, now I want to watch "Gangs of New York".
One of my history teachers noted that before the Civil War, the U.S. was usually referred to in the plural, because the emphasis was on the individual states. “The United States are doing such-and-such.” After the war, it became a singular nation. “The United States is doing such-and-such.”
I love these videos.... They are so funny, and tackle all sort so serious issues or concepts at the same time. For as short as they are, and obviously in brief regarding the details, they cover so much. And for someone wanting a quick overview, they are ideal.
Indentured servitude was more of an 18th Century phenomenon than it was by the 19th. By the 19th Century there were well established transportation networks that made passage across the Atlantic far cheaper and more affordable for immigrants. It was also found that working people to death as wage slaves (just like they do today) was far more effective and profitable than it was to make resentful indentured servants profitable. Indentured servants had to be provided with shelter, food, and clothes at the expense of the employer. Wage slaves have to provide all of that for themselves. I remember reading one indentured servant contract circa 1760 that promised that indentured servants wouldn't be fed lobster more than twice a week. As one of the cheapest and most abundant foods found in the American colonies, lobster was seen as food fit only for slaves and indentured servants, not for free persons. It was only once water pollution and overfishing led to severe shortages of lobster by the mid-19th Century that it became the prestige food for rich people that it is today.
On a different note, people today don't really understand the general American attitude towards the Irish at the time of the Civil War. I remember reading a New York Times article about Irish women marrying Chinese men in New York City from 1857. The tenor of the article wasn't pointing towards such marriages as the shocking thing of white women marrying Chinese men, but more like haha look at what those monkeys are up to. The Irish weren't considered white people by the English American establishment at the time, so to them it wasn't a big deal what "those people" got up to. The Irish women interviewed said they loved their Chinese husbands because those guys would work hard everyday and bring home all the money, giving it all to the wife to spend on household expenses and the kids. Of course this fed into the racist stereotype of Chinese men being effeminate since they trusted their wives to handle the money for the household, unlike the stereotype of the strong Anglo-Saxon American men who handled all the finances on their own without regard to the woman. The article also reinforced another prevalent stereotype about the Irish because the Irish women were quoted as saying they'd rejected Irish husbands because their men would take all the money on payday and immediately get drunk and lose it all, leaving nothing for the household. I always thought what this really reflected was the fact that these Irish women were immigrants with horrible memories of the Potato Famine. Building a stable household with a reliable partner simply to survive would have been far more important to them than any racial prejudices they might otherwise have felt.
Also, I believe there was at least one brigade from Ireland who fought on the side of the union in order to gain U.S. citizenship.
@@kyledavis4890 The Irish were found on both sides of the Civil War. Gaining American citizenship wasn't difficult at that time. It only required the immigrant, as a free white person to have residency in the US for a certain number of years. I believe soldiers got a waiver on the residency time requirements. The key was the Immigration Act of 1795 that specified exactly those conditions, only free white persons were eligible for American citizenship. This was why the 13th Amendment was passed to make an exception to federal law that otherwise made it impossible for newly freed African American slaves to become American citizens. As it was, Congress passed the Chinese Exclusion Act in 1882 to specifically prohibit Chinese from becoming naturalized citizens. From what I recall, Native Americans weren't generally regarded as fully American citizens until the 20th Century by the federal government. As it was, the ban on naturalized citizenship was later extended to all Asians. This explains the wording still found in a lot of modern property deeds that still includes language excluding certain races and "aliens ineligible for citizenship" from owning that property.
There is a theory that all that slaughter in The American civil War could have been avoided. The British had officially finished with slavery so the States would have eventually followed. Given time Pressure would have been applied in many different ways from the North and from other Countries regarding trade. Albeit slowly it would have diminished until it would became sheer disgusting to most and the big land owners in the South under so much pressure would simply have to give in. Other political issues were at stake for the top guys and slavery was a one part of a more complex problem,
Quite rightly the Union used Slavery as the moral cause but there was a lot more too it.
Whatever other issues there were, its pretty obvious from their succession statements and constitution that the right to own slaves wasn't just 'part of the problem' but their main reason for rebelling.
Considering that convict labor STILL EXISTS in the U.S. and is still protected by the U.S. Constitution, I doubt very much that American slave owners would have easily given up their property. Not without financial compensation. By the way, the British government had to pay off slave owners to end slavery within their empire. The government had to borrow money to pay them off. And it took over a century - from 1833 to 2015 for British taxpayers to pay off this debt on behalf of the government. I have no patience with people advocating gradual compensation. That tells me they're more concerned about the country's financial situation or anyone other than the slaves themselves. Considering all of the blood, sweat and tears that slaves had to endure in order to help build this country, I regard the war as karmic payback.
@@juanitajones6900 The world is bigger than you are lead to believe 'This Country'!!! remember, there are more countries around the world that use the internet. There were many more civilised clever ways to abolish slavery, and that madman john Brown he actually believed the slaves would suddenly rise up at his antics but of course they didn't. Dialogue was the answer, and intelligence.
War; may be you never been in one or fought in one if you had you may have a different view. Approx. 2 percent of the population lost in ACW maimed wounded add x10. 620,000 dead in todays population that's around 6 million. Your quote 'karmic payback. Your words are abhorrent. They were human beings.
@@harpothehealer You obviously wanted slavery abolished without the country suffering any consequences for it. I believe the country needed to experience the consequences for the horrors of slavery that was allowed to exist.
Many Nations with the luxury of hindsight said lofty things about ending slavery and how awful it was.
But none of them stopped buying Tobacco, Sugar, or Cotton.
Large commercial agricultural operations required cheap labor in order for goods to be priced at a level that people could afford to buy them.
It wasn’t until the industrial equipment needed to work large operations was invented that the forced labor of immigrants and poverty stricken Americans obliged to work the land by their wealthy land lords came to a logical end.
That’s when the impoverished began moving from rural lands where they could substance farm while working their debt to their landlords began to move to cities where they could work in factories that produced the machinery that replaced them.
You should check out the book "The Immortal Irishman" by Tim Eagan. It is about an historical Irish man named Thomas Francis Meagher. It tells of his life in Ireland, time spent in a Tasmanian penal colony (Thank you England) and his ultimate arrival in the USA where he fought for the North in the civil war. We owe a lot to the Irish. So many Irish died for the north of a country that they weren't born to.
Diane, I suggest you watch the film, "Glory" (1989) Young Denzel Washington in his Academy award winning performance in the story of the first Black soldiers enlisted to fight in the Civil War. It also has a beautiful score.
I would love to see you do the second part. Indentured servitude was like slavery because a lot of times the people that were ruling over the servants would find any little mistake that someone had made and therefore make them work longer as a form of punishment therefore making that part slavery. Also while they were being in servitude they could be used for anything that there master wanted.
Indentured servitude and slavery were two very different beast
The issue with the indentured servitude of the Irish is that many masters would find dishonest ways to "fine" them, thus extending their debt in perpetuity (rendering them de facto slaves). Additionally, the British judicial system was sentencing Irish to involuntary work on sugar cane plantations in the Caribbean, again, often finding ways to keep them there beyond their sentences or work them to death.
And their children were also indentured servants? No, well that's surprising. How about indentured servant markets were they bought and sold? Never existed!? So in many ways not slaves but serfs and not treated like human livestock like the African slaves were.
@@Sean__F You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I was saying that that system and the chattle slavery system were exactly the same. I never said such a thing.
There are many kinds of slavery throughout human history. Involuntary servitude is slavery, even when it begins as temporary voluntary servitude and is transformed into perpetual servitude through fraud and abuse.
@@antaine1916 your use of the term "defacto slavery" is what led me to conclude that you equivocated indentured servitude as it related to the chattel slavery which was central reason for the Civil War. The trope of white slavery, is used to diminish the atrocity of the transatlantic or simply glom onto it that it wasn't exclusively racial order. Chattel slavery of the antebellum South was not in orders of magnitude anywhere close to the indentured servants, and your attempt to conflate that there's a spectrum of slavery is deliberately do exactly that. Come back and either acknowledge that the reference to "white slavery" didn't belong in a video about the American Civil War or double down and try to dilute the horrors of chattel slavery (again the primary reason for the Civil War) and virtue signal that being Europeans suffered is anywhere near what Africans suffered in this time period.
Diane should not have unknowingly mentioned the white supremacist narrative of white slavery, and you should either own up to being a propagator of the white supremacist narrative or stop it altogether.
The stated causes of secession had nothing to do with indentured servants and was exclusive to the African slaves, so it only gets brought to the attention by those who need it to be a deflection for the rank white supremacy of the CSA and lingering Confederate sympathizers that continue to this day. Why bring it up at all with regards to the Civil War?
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@@Sean__F It's not merely a trope, it's just not the Irish in the Americas that were the exemplars. The Ottomans were kidnapping Europeans for labor and sex slavery every bit as brutal as the American South (including the enslaving of offspring) for centuries -- and in as great of numbers, too -- from long before the "Triangle Trade" until the late 1800s, long after the US Civil War. People like to brush that under the rug, though.
@@antaine1916 cool, just interject that irrelevant anecdotal comment on a video about footballers' wives, because that's the same level of relevance to the video you commented on. Within the context of the American Civil War it is absolutely propagating a white supremacist trope.
Manassas is where I was born, and when I was a kid I would go to Civil War re-enactments and learn about some of this history via live drama. Now I live in Winchester, another key town in the civil war on which many battles were fought.
Chewie(?) chillin' like a cat on the sofa arm is all the happiness I can handle today.
There’s a story passed down in my family about my great grandmother when she was a little girl, some union troops came riding through their farm and she remembered seeing a soldier reach down from his horse and grab one of their geese by the neck to take with them.
And when Lee's army invaded Pennsylvania, they enslaved any non-white person they met, and sent them south. Which is worse: stealing a goose or enslaving a human?
@@michaelsommers2356 I’m sure they didn’t do worse things than steal a goose. 🤪
@@LS1007 Of course not. They were the saviors of the universal Yankee nation.
Her goose was cooked ? Sounds like she watch "Friendly Persuasion" a lot.
Part of the slave trade that us almost ALWAYS overlooked is that Africans captured other Africans (rival tribes) and sold them to slave traders or enslaved them themselves. Wars were fought between tribes and the living lovers were often enslaved. This was not illegal until fairly recently (20th century).
These were Kindoms, Empires and Caliphates....not tribes.
@@MicahsIntellectualCorner still enslaved each other, so hey
@@MicahsIntellectualCorner I mean, often it was " kingdoms, empires and caliphates" built significantly by the money they made conquering smaller TRIBES and selling them off. A huge reason for some of Africa's poverty is the degree to which their economy depended on the profits of slavers. Africa is among the few places today where slavery still exists fairly openly. Also most slaves were sent to south america and central america and many more were sold to the middle east. Among those sold to the middle east were many white slaves.
@@frenchynoob So what your point? They Enslaved their conquered enemies just like every other culture in the world.
@@nathanh1582 I know the Ottoman Empire had a policy of not enslaving Islamic people so that left all the Slavics and Greeks living in the European Ottoman region for slavery, yes I know, and it's a part of the reason for how poor it is but it's not a Huge reason though, that would be colonialism, I mean France alone still has a massive financial hold over most its old colonies even to this day, I mean look at Haiti, they had to pay for their own independence and only paid France back in the 1940s and this was because of the Haitian Revolution, so to say that is almost reckless to say the least, also Slavery exists every and I mean EVERYWHERE, its actually most prevalent in India but Human trafficking is a major problem Everywhere, to say it's only a problem in Africa is again kinda reckless.
'Yeah!!! Whiskey...' That's why I love @DianeJennings so much!!!
I know this is "over simplified" but there's so much more to how and why it started. There's also a lot more to the emancipation proclamation and why it was made.
James Cook - Totally agreed. Not to say I wished it hadn't been, but the Emancipation Proclamation in political reality, as you suggest, is very different from the common understanding of it.
Still, as executive orders go, it was soon approved by Congress, to become Law (of a fashion) as the Emancipation Approximation, was more about 'intent', which did, eventually become law (January 1, 1864, I think), about 4 months after Lincoln gave that speech, which ultimately culminated into the 13th, and eventual, 14th Amendments, to the US Constitution, being something we don't tend to take lightly, but for the 18th and 19th.
An Executive Order, is often comlied, to the Executive Branch (meaning, the President, and ultimately, Law Enforcement), particularly in times of War, or dis-order, to keep the seams of Democracy stitched, as no less so, in this case.
Point being, and as always, such orders are eventually to be compliant with the Will of Congress, the Supreme Court, and ultimately, the court of common opinion, implying - We, the People, somewhat conglomerate.
The south was the Confederate States of America. The civil war is still the deadliest war in American history. The deadliest day in Our history was at Antietam Creek, Sharpsburg
Maryland in September. 1862. 22,700 killed, missing, and wounded on that one day.
Bill - As far as I know, amongst it all, what you say seems true.
I'm not in charge of such things, but I've heard it said, that the casualties (meaning deaths, injuries, and MIA of the Civil War), both combatant and civilian, are greater numbers than all the other wars we (the USA) have fought and suffered, personally, conglomerate.
Crazy, but apparently true.
It was Americans killing each other, so all of the deaths and casualties were going to be overwhelmingly American…and it lasted over 4 years, so not surprising.
One issue with indentured servants is that "ways"were found to extend the time of service. Also many times the land given to them after their period wasn't good enough to survive on which forced them into debt and back into servitude.
That is why the push west was in many ways an effort to get away from being kept in the system.
It's a reason a good portion of my Scots-Irish ancestors left NY and Pennsylvania, and moved to both Southern states and Western territories.
I came across an interesting little detail recently The very first time that an indentured servant was formally, legally declared to be a slave by a court, his master was a free *black* man who had previously been indentured himself. The ironies of history abound.
Most of my high school class were Irish American but nothing in our history class never mentioned the Great Hunger. My mum said we don't want to EVER talk about this because it's too Painful.
You can't end on a cliff hangar. Please do part 2 as I am dying to see what happens.
Republicans win and the Democrats who love slavery get mad and assassinate Republican President Lincoln.
Sadly most people like to blame “America” for sins whose blame lies exclusively with the Democratic Party who supported those sins.
They often forget Republicans opposed slavery right from the start.
Heck it took Democrats until 1964 to finally agree to the Civil Rights act originally proposed by Republicans back under Ulysses Grant.
Like that’s insane to me to think Republicans were nearly 100 years morally superior to Democrats.
It sure explains why democrats don’t understand killing babies is wrong.
The official name was Confederate States of America. Confederacy for short. You're going to get so many trolls on this one. Despite the articles of secession being in plain english, far too many still like to rewrite history as to the origin of the war.
As someone who was a history major in college and still a huge history nerd, Lost Causers drive me up a wall. Guys, they were very clear about why they were fighting. Just because they're your ancestors doesn't mean you have to defend them or their actions. Times are different, we know better now and they're gone. None of us are claiming that you're them, it's time to accept the hard truth and move on.
So far I’m not seeing many trolls… I have faith
The hugest difference between indentured servitude and slavery, and why it's probably best not to conflate the two despite the parts they have in common, is that in the American form of slavery - the slaves were treated entirely as property, more like livestock than human beings - it was perfectly legal and all too common for owners to split families, selling children or parents apart from each other with no say in that matter. This was super cruel and horrible.
Note that in the video it talks of the North treating escaped slaves as "contraband" and putting them to work on supporting projects rather than letting them enlist as soldiers. This also is treating them like property and not like real full humans.
The kind of mental shenanigans required to justify this institution is quite something. Jefferson owned several of his own children as property, many slave owners did.
So, are you suggesting all slaves prior to 1655 were treated better?
@@morielrorschach8090 It's true that slave conditions did gradually worsen over time as new generations of slaveowners could not remember a time when slaves were not just property. It made these later generations more apt to abuse the slaves and treat them less as human beings. It also made some slaves themselves more apt to desire the stability of the plantation over the possibility of freedom. Similar to authoritarian states like the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany, the plantation bred a kind of sick loyalty in some of the very people it oppressed. It was a dark, unsustainable institution that negatively affected the psyches of both slave and slaveowner. Had the civil war never happened, it would have eventually all fallen apart because it was clearly in a downward spiral in terms of behavior.
@@wtk6069 That's a bit exaggerated. This "Roots" imagery that we're taught in America is BS. Slaves were generally not mistreated. Large plantations could afford to make an example out of a slave to keep the others in line. But broken slaves can't work the field. It's akin to slashing all your tires and beating the crap out of your car because it ran out of gas or the spark plugs went bad. Slaves cost money and had a job to do. It wasn't nearly as common to abuse them as reported, which gets more and more exaggerated over the years. Obviously mental abuse is a different issue. But I agree it would have fallen apart eventually. Really, it was doomed to be over as soon as technology made keeping slaves impractical.
@@wtk6069 And on top of that, both blacks and whites partook of slavery. In South Carolina, the 1830 census shows that a significant percentage of free blacks owned black slaves as well; some of them even owned plantations. Many of these free blacks were purchasing their relatives to protect them, but others exploited them for labor just as the whites did. In Charleston, nearly three-quarters of the free blacks were slaveowners.
Also many of the black slaves were routinely raped by their masters-both male and female.This practice continued until the 60s.Many black females were routinely raped/gang-raped by white men LONG after the civil war ended,like I said until the 60s.If a case did go to trial,an all white jury would find them not-guilty.After 1865 many black folks were also whipped,lynched,tortured and beaten to death for generations.The bombing of black homes,churches and businesses were routine in the south during the 1900s-until-the 60s.Even Ben Liden,Saddum and Al Queda didn't do this EVIL things,yet domestic terrorism on black citizens continued for generations,starting with the KKK.And don't forget the bombing of BlackWallstreet in 1921,what country does this to their citizens ??? Even Hitler didn't do this.
I LOVE Oversimplified, and would be happy to see you react to part 2. Great video :)
Yes! We need part 2!
Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. LOTS of people get that wrong.
Thanks for the info!
He also wrote "Separation of Church & State" in a Private letter. That term is NEVER used in any American Legal Documents. Just his Private Opinion to a friend.
@@chairmanmeow2413 One of the legal podcasts I like listening to, Amarica's Constitution, which is hosted by Akhil Amar, Yale Law Professor, liberal originalist, historian, and constitutional scholar has pointed out that his view was almost certainly shaped by his time in France when the Constitution was being ratified. They have a very strict aversion to faith in the public square and government that they call laicité(secularism) but that has never been the norm here.
@@HistoryNerd808 Agreed. I've read that was probably the case, makes sense.
The first of my European ancestors to come to North America was an Irish man named Jeremiah Jerkins. He was convicted of highway banditry and sentenced to enslavement and sold to a tobacco plantation in South Carolina.
He was *not* an indentured servant, he was a slave. His sentence was for life and had he tried to escape, he would have been hung. His son Adam was also a slave, born into it, due to a legal concept called "continuation of debt."
The political urge to erase the existence of white slaves by calling them all "indentured servants" is historic revisionism.
That must have been when America was a penal colony.
But,you said he was convicted of highway banditry,so,he brought all these bad things on himself.And his son-ADAM.A child paying for the SINS of his father.
Nooo the majority of the people pushing the "Irish were slaves to" are trying to minimize the effects of slavery on the black population that still holds today.
@@LostButBroken So true.And no one wants to hear about what happened to blacks after they were FREED.It's all a part of american history,don't run from it !!! LOL.
Yes, please watch part 2
The North was more industrialized and had more railroads. One iimportant reason reason the North was successful was they utilized the railroad to move supplies and soldiers. The rail lines in the South were less connected to each other.
Yes, definitely do Part 2.
As for indentured servitude (IS) it was a mixed curse when compared to treatment of slaves. As property, slaves produced income for their masters indefinitely while the IS's had an end date so working them to death before that date was an option. Surviving IS was not guaranteed.
You got THAT right. Think of owning a truck and how you take care of it vs renting it. Oops.
Indentured servitude is one thing but there’s a complete glossing over Irish prisoners of war who were sent to the new world as slaves. Not indentured servants. Academia loves to say”well they were prisoners” well they conveniently ignore they were prisoners for being Irish and occupying land next to England.
@@weignerleigner3037 Also when they were getting off the boat in NY, they were forced to sign up with the UNION army. I see that as forced labor. It doesn't matter if they were paid or not.
In addition to the Irish who were shipped to the Caribbean as indentured servants, that's the way many early European immigrants had their passage to America paid. That's how my German ancestors got from a Dutch port to Philadelphia in 1763.
@@robertjohnson5838 Key word. 'Own' plus humans. How is that not computing? African slaves were basically Cattle. While the Irish were just dupes that got caught with a 80% interest debt. They still had rights no black American had from the jump.
Ya'll forever trying to rewrite history to cover your demon ways.
6:32 Taney, the Chief Justice at the time, put his own bias into the case and tried to use it to end attacks against slavery. When he made his ruling in the Dred Scott case, he became a very hated figure and many politicians railed against him even after his death.
Believe it or not, there’s a street in Philadelphia named after him. There’s currently a movement to have the name changed.
@@gerstelb As it should be.
Tyler Fuller-battles - The Dred Scott case (and others), promulgated the Civil War, no doubt.
I am a Northerner, with Southern roots, but it wasn't until a few years later that I realized, that the 'Harper's Ferry' that I knew, was the one and same, of the stories I knew as a kid. Sorry, but at the time, I didn't add up 2 and 2 to be 4.
Regarding the Supreme Court, while the Constitution requires its existence, it does not mandate the number of Justices'.
Traditionally, there are 9 Supreme Court Justices, but at any time, ultimately with the approval of the Congress and the President, that number might be condensed (to be less than 9), or expanded, as to being 'more so'.
As per usual, our (USA) sense of democracy today, was just a crap shoot, as I don't think anyone in their right mind (17th Century or so), would have ever expected that our thought of it, might have survived.
Great job Diane. Yes let's see part 2.
"Give 'em Hell 54th!"
Can't wait for you to do part 2. Big things happen in part 2.
Definitely need to see part 2, I always slept through history class so now I'm curious how it ends, No Spoilers Please! lol
It ends with the Kaiser leading a big parade through the streets of DC.
Irish indentured servants HAD the opportunity to earn their freedom, but most never lived long enough to see it. The average lifespan of a black slave was 36 years. The average lifespan of an Irish indentured servant was 19. They were just flat out RUN INTO THE GROUND.
And there was an incentive for their "employers" to ensure they didn't survive. If they served the full seven years, they were to be given 50 acres upon their release. If they didn't survive, their employers kept the 50 acres for themselves. Besides indentured servants, there were literal slaves from Britain and Ireland, often vagrant children or petty criminals transported to the colonies. There are several books on the topic, but the most reliable is "White Cargo," published by New York University Press.
It true at all Africans world wide did better than other peoples in any form of bondage because of genetics because of muscle recovery and genetics
Could you please tell me where did you get the lifespan information? I genuinely want to know
Indentured servants usually served 7 years to pay off their passage to America. It was a contract, not slavery. What good would running one of your workers in the ground do you? As cruel as slave owners could be they rarely killed their slaves. It was not in their interest to reduce their work force.
@@saytr4 he made it up.
I also wanted to let you know that I am pretty sure that that same channel has a video or two about the Irish potato famine and it’s really good.
Your face when they talked about slaves being considered enemy contraband perfectly mirrored my own. I looked up and you were making the same face as me 😂
Also to point out, indentured servated had been going on in the Americas since 1607 in Jamestown. So it wasn't only an Irish experience but a colonial American experience. Also by 1840s when the famine caused the greatest wave of Irish to come to America it was no longer practiced.
So unless some ones ancestors came to the Americas 16/17 hundreds, they were most likely not indentured servants.
A kind of indenture resumed in the late 19th century, with the "company town" and owning your soul to the company store. This was perfectly legal and still is. This created friction with the Irish miners "Molly McGuires" who held strikes in the Pennsylvania coal fields. If most Americans hadn't been Christian, there would have been no objection to slavery. Karl Marx at this time was in London, as a foreign correspondent of the New York Times (which is still a radical paper).
Imagine thinking new york times is radical 🤣
@@LostButBroken Been part of Marxism since 1860. But then Marxism is as mainstream as Robespierre. President Lincoln was a radical himself, read the NYT and corresponded with Mr Marx.
@@LostButBroken uhm... they have been and always will be... they have ALWAYS leaned in the extreme one way..
Yes a HUGE part of the nation was Christian. Including most of the South (the Confederate States). So saying Christianity is why people objected... I'm not so sure about that. Let's be completely honest here. Both the North and the South were as Christian as Christian could be and both sides threw their "interpretation" of the Bible into the middle of all of it. The North said as followers of God it's their duty to ensure that ALL are treated with love and more or less follow the teachings of Jesus. The South turned around and said something along the lines of, uhh yeah we're followers of the same God and the used certain pages from the Bible to claim "see not only does God ordain slavery but the Holy Scripture upholds it."
So in another words it was one huge mess where a nation full of Christians both fight to end the practice and did all they could to keep it and both did so in the name of their shared religion. It was truly bizarre
@@michaelbrooks742 Several Protestant denominations split over it, and didn't reconcile for decades later.
Not sure how I missed this but it was more informative than what I learned in school. Thank you for sharing and yes you need to do part two.
Wow! I’m an American and studied this in school. I never knew some of this. Thank you for the proper education.
Indentured servants had some legal protections, it was a temporary state, and they all volunteered for indentured servitude. It was also not something inherited. African slaves had no protections, they were enslaved for life, and it was something forced on them. It was also passed down to their offspring. That is why New World slavery is particularly cruel.
Considering the African slaves were captured by other African tribes, who then sold them to Muslim traders, who then sold them to Europeans, and eventually to Americans, I wouldn't say that the New World slavery was any worse. In fact, the New World shed white blood, a lot of it from Irish immigrants, to free Blacks, whereas slavery is still in practice in Africa and Asia. And I had a chuckle when you said that indentured servants "volunteered for indentured servitude". Right, just like Irish "volunteered" to have their land taken from them by England, only to be tenants on their own land and forced to turn over most of what they were able to farm. That led to the Great Famine, which killed over a million Irish Catholics in a seven-year period. Many more would have faced a similar fate had they not emigrated to the U.S., only to be treated as sub-humans and suffer discrimination. That's why so many joined the Army - to fight for their new country, in hopes they would be accepted.
this isn't true even though a lot of people are taught that. Irish women could be bred with African slaves and had their children taken from them to serve in chattel slavery. I'm tired of hearing people say that poor people who came here thinking they could work off their debt and end up spending years of their lives and servitude is less than slavery. in some cases African slaves had more protections and were worth more than Irish slaves although both were terribly abused. it's like illegal aliens who cross the border thinking they can come into the United States for less money and without having to go through years of education. it's understandable why they do it, but they're taking their life and their hands when they do. whether they end up living permanently in the United States or whether they end up disappearing while working in some factory in a border Town is all up to whose hands they find themselves in. anytime you have a poor class like that which is basically just another step away from a refugees there are human rights abuses. we are kidding ourselves to think that this was an exception rather than the rule just because we're too far removed from history to remember it. there used to be signs that would hang in businesses and restaurants saying that Africans and Irishmen were not allowed to go in there. and if you notice in the video it said that indentured servitude as a form of slavery could be imposed against someone's will as a judicial thing. back then, there were poor houses and hard labor camps, things like that. a person who found themselves living in poverty was literally tried as a criminal by the courts. I don't remember ever being taught that in history class but it's true, it started in Europe. that's not a protected class.
@@jimtownsend7899 Indenturements were done by contract. Unfair and easily exploitable contracts, but contracts all the same. The fact that Africans raided the interior for slaves does not make New World slavery any better. Many whites did sacrifice their lives to end slavery in the Americas, and many whites also sacrificed to preserve it. Remember that the United States was the last North American country to end slavery unless you count Spain's Caribbean possessions.
The Potato Famine is a separate issue that is an indictment on British capitalism.
Again, it was voluntary and temporary. Indentured servitude was often the only way some people could make it to North America. It was a corrupt system and it was exploitable to such a degree that it might turn into debt peonage afterward. Still, it was a significant step above slavery.
Slave codes (most colonies had them) effectively stripped slaves of any legal protection and treated them like property. Each indenturement contract was between two individuals and also listed the sponsor's obligations and responsibilities.
There were many kinds of unfree labor in North America. You had indentured servants, redemptioners, convict laborers, and slaves. Slavery was by far the worst.
How do I know this? I'm a history professor.
@@IronBrig4 Nothing personal, but academics in general learn from other academics, but that doesn't mean what they learn is comprehensive or even completely factual. When I was in university, I had a business professor who had never worked in business. He took umbrage when I asked him, respectfully, how he could teach us about something he had never actually done. It's like learning to bake a cake from someone who never turned on an oven.
Diane
One of my ancestors was a delegate for the State of Georgia when the Georgia Assembly to vote to secede from the Union in January of 1861. I read that he voted to keep Georgia in the Union, but he was out voted. I know that I lost some ancestors in that war.
I'm from Wisconsin and Wisconsin had 3 Regiments that were part of the Famous Iron Brigade. The Iron Brigade was also known as the Black Hat Brigade because of the Black Hardee Hats they wore. The Iron Brigade composed of the 2nd,6th,7th Wisconsin Volunteer Infantry and the 19th Indiana and 24th Michigan and Battery B of the 4th U.S Light Artillery. They were part of the Army of the Potomac. Although they were known for their strong Discipline and fighting ability, the Iron Brigade suffered the highest percentage of casualties of any Brigade in the Civil War
As a follow-up, I recommend Thomas Sowell - Facts about Slavery never mentioned in school
They keep changing the rules. You said it sister 🤘👍🇺🇸
the irish were never enslaved in america as far as i know. they were virtually enslaved in brazil and the caribbean. both little charlie, and cromwell put down rebellions in ireland, convicted thousands of high treason, sentenced them (and on occasion their entire families) to life at hard labor. then, the sentences were sold to sugar planters. so unlike indenture , or even the beginnings of atlantic cost slavery, the irish could not buy their freedom, and they could not be set free, england would simply resell the sentence to someone else.
Always great reactions from you, thanks so much! Please do part 2. Thanks again
Indentured Servitude was literally not slavery, it was just a maid contract. And a REALLY good deal to come to the US from a starving country.
Now, as for the Scots/Irish being "indentured" slaves. That's how it was told, on paper but, far from the truth. Scots and Irish were arrested for small, petty crimes, on purpose, then given a higher than normal fine and prison time. People with plantations were allowed to "buy them", pay off the high fine, then put them to work at the plantations. They were the first "slaves" in America. They lost favor over the Africans because, the African slaves were cheaper. Now yes, there was a contract that, the Scot/Irish would have to work off their debt. Each day of work was worth a certain amount of money. The problem is, the owners would also charge them for rent, food, clothes, tools, etc, which all cost more than what they made in work. This was done on purpose so the "indentured servant" would never be freed. The only way out was, if they had a family member or friend that had enough money to pay the whole debt. In fact, if one ran away, the owner was allowed to hunt them down and hand out punishment or, even kill them. So, when you look at it that way, they were actually slaves. They made no real money for their work, and were punished if they ran away, and had no way out to freedom. At one point, they would mate a Scot/Irish woman "slave", with a black male "slave", and sell the child as a Mulatto person. They would get more money than a black slave, but not as expensive as a white slave.
Blacks were slaves for over a 100 yrs.
An interesting fact when Googled, 20% or less of white southerners owned 1 or more black slaves & 42% or less of free black southerners owned 1 or more black slaves. Slave ownership was not so much the issue of the civil war but how slavery or the end of slavery effected the economies of the North & South. Most southerners who fought & died did not own any slaves.
Ok, another "it wasn't about slavery" post. I'm going to be respectful here, but I must point out a few things regarding your research:
1. There is no denying that the succession was over slavery. Pull up the original wording of the Declaration of Succession of any of the Confederate states. There are easy to find. Every single one of them CLEARY states slavery was the reason they were leaving. Start with Mississippi and read paragraph 2.
2. The 20% owned slaves is misleading. They are counting individuals, usually the head of the family, as one slave owner. That's kinda like saying if you live in a family of five and all the slaves are in the father's name, then only 20% own slaves. If you include people that were in a household or family that owned slaves the number varies from 30 - 55%, depending upon where you were located. Add in everyone indirectly involved, such as those who sold and transported slaves, supplied plantations, worked as overseers and security and brokered plantation products, you've got a pretty good chunk of the population. It WAS almost the entirety of the economy.
2. Although there were a very tiny number of free blacks who owned slaves for labor, the vast majority were the owners of spouses or family members as that was the only legal way to get them safely off the plantation.
3. Yes, there were dirt-poor whites who never owned slaves who honestly felt they were fighting to protect their homeland, their state's rights, their freedom, and all that. That is simply because rich powerful people are good at convincing poor people to fight their battles for them. This has always been the case and likely always will be. They were fighting and dying and being cannon fodder so the rich guys could keep their slaves. That doesn't mean their cause was just.
As of the 1850s, probably about a quarter of white Southerners owned slaves at some point in their lives, another quarter renting or borrowing slaves at some time in their lives.
It is true that the majority of slaves were owned by the top 5% of white society (top 1% of the slave holding, or Master class.) Still, the majority of slave owners were small-holders (less than five.) This is the thing though, white Southerners who didn't own slaves usually *aspired* to own slaves. It was an emblem of success, having made it in the antebellum South.
It's quite clear that slavery and the desire to preserve the Union were the two causes of the Civil War. The fact that a minority of white Southerners ever owned slaves is neither here nor their. Even today, the elites lead us into wars that the majority of us wish they wouldn't. The rich declare the wars and the poor die fighting them.
@@EmpressMermaid Accurate on all points, and it's nice to see someone else here pushing back against this revisionist crap.
@@dmwalker24 I really don't get the revisionists who claim it wasn't about slavery when the Confederate states themselves clearly stated "we are leaving the Union due to slavery". And I'm saying this as the descendant of Confederate soldiers. I'm not proud of it, but it was what it was.
Slavery was LITERALLY the reason for the civil war. The south wanted to own humans
This makes me want to see Editor Diane host an entire video.
You definitely need to do part II; there are numerous important battles that they haven't gotten to yet.
Also, at the very beginning, when baby Abe popped out and said ' 9 months and 4 days ago my father brought forth upon my mother himself...' , it was a very clever rewording of the Gettysburg address, which were the words that Lincoln was most famous for. (the address starts off 'Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal....' )
The US Civil War tears me in two directions.
I'm very anti slavery and every part of me is thankful it has ended. Treating people that way is one of the biggest evils of history.
But I also believe if you aren't free to leave any situation then you aren't free at all. A government turning it's military on their own people to force their submission is something I think most people would find abhorrent if you take the slavery issue out of the equation.
The right to secession isn't in the Constitution and what the Confederate states did was outright treason. I am also a resident of Texas and while I like my state, I am very anti-secessionist and irritated that the Texas GOP is apparently considering a referendum on secession in the near future.
Also the Republic of Texas was very pro-slavery and I find it ironic that you are against slavery and yet chose that as your username.
@@0816M3RC The future Republic of Texas not the previous one.
By the way the Romans and many other historical nations were pro slavery. Are you bothered by every single username that may have a Roman, Greek, Egyptian reference, etc, or just by Texas and US names?
@@0816M3RC Secession isn't in the constitution one way or another. But what is in the constitution is the 10th amendment; "The powers not delegated to the United States by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
In this situation, the people turned their guns on the government first.
Yeah Irish were treated like dirt!!! Black men got rights before we did. And it was illegal to speak German or Irish in public!!
That's not true. Irish people had inalienable rights the moment they arrived because of their skin color.
They were never slaves, Jim Crow laws didn't apply to them, they weren't lynched for supposedly whistling at a white women.
Were the Irish treated poorly? Yes. Was it on par to the 400 years of enslavement that black people endured in our country? Of course not.
You can't compare the two.
Black men did not get rights before the Irish.
Absolute nonsense. I had family members from Ulster (northern Ireland) who ended up owning slaves. Black people did not get rights before the Irish.
"we did" you ain't Irish sit down
Part two absolutely! Don’t stop now!
Ireland is magical. Just is. The wee people. So, it is joyful to be on your channel. Born there, but not raised. American citizen.
I've lived in 9 States. I spent grades 10-12 in Richmond VA. Each classroom flew a small American flag at one end of the blackboard, and an equal-sized Confederate flag at the other end of the blackboard. This was the mid-1970's. Once I was babysitting for a couple who had two little boys. It was during the day, and only the younger boy was there. I asked him where his brother was, and he said, "His class went on a field trip to the President's house." I thought, wow, DC is pretty far away for kids that little to go on a day trip - a 2 hour drive. Turned out he meant Jefferson Davis's house in downtown Richmond.
Hello Diane, my name is Robert E Lee (there are thousands of us in US). Because you were discussing indentured slaves, I wanted to note my interesting family history with that.
My ancestors came from Cheshire County, UK; while the Lee Family of Virginia (general Robert E Lee and his grandfather, founding father Richard H Lee) were from Shropshire County, UK. Of interest, my ancestor Hugh Lee, who was an 8th son, had to indenture himself to pay for passage to the colonies in 1630. Also of note, Hugh's grandfather had been a Knight of the garter under Elizabeth I many years earlier. It's not that the family wasn't rich but that everything went to the oldest male child alone.
My ancestor started at St. Mary's in Maryland (the original capital) and over multiple generations eventually moved south the North Carolina. I do have a direct ancestor who died in the Civil War at the Battle of Chancellorsville (along with Gen. Stonewall Jackson).
I would welcome you reacting to the second part or the series. While I note that I'm a self-appointed Civil War expert based on defending my birth name over 60 years, I am not a southern apologist. Slavery and the way blacks were treated was wrong and should have been ended earlier.
At about 14 minutes in. That's how Stonewall Jackson got his name. Someone else shouted "Take cover behind Jackson's unit! They are standing like a stone wall!"
Awesome!! Please do part 2! Really looking forward to it! 😁😁
One major omission in the "this will solve the slavery question" category was the "Three-Fifths Compromise", in which slaves were counted as exactly three-fifths of a person in determining the allocation of House of Representatives seats, and maybe for other purposes. IIRC the wording of this has a convoluted description of what a slave is, to avoid mentioning the word "slave". The "Bleeding Kansas" conflict over whether Kansas would be slave or free, with much violence on both sides, was also of importance.
Well, dang, I learned a lot here. They always put me in remedial classes until high school when someone realized I could make it in the advanced classes. But by that time I had missed out on a whole lot of things. Can't wait check out part 2. Thanks, DIane!
My great great grandfather fought in the Civil War for the Union. Very proud he was on the right side of history to end slavery.
Part 2 has a lot of interesting parts. Hope you do it
5:48 That is what we call The Missouri Compromise, which was eventually overturned.
Yes, please do Part 2. I need to find out who wins, and who is buried in Grant's Tomb.
Y'know...I'm only 8.08 minutes into this video "but"...I think I'll subscribe to you. I'm a 54 year old Canadian boy...who's Grandfather on my Mother's side immigrated from Ireland over to Canada back when thing were "not so great" in the Emerald Isle... I am enjoying your reaction thus far. As a Canadian, we often think that the US was the birthplace of Lawyers...either that or they wore capes and fly around like superheros...more so than our lawyers up here. That's why there is so much law/lawyer stuff in this video. That being said I still love how the OverSimplived Channel explains and actually makes you curious about Real History. it was a truly legal time back then... Cheers to you!!
I❤️ your interruptions. You're funny 😁. That reference I only know because of Animaniacs with the 3 pigeons.