Dr. West: "...whether Lewis finally accepted that humans evolved from lower animals..." There really is no such thing as "lower animals". All organisms on earth occupy environmental niches, and are very good at occupying those niches. In fact, given that 99% of organisms that have existed on earth are extinct, one could say the extant organisms are the "1%". Nothing "lower" about that. Dr. West also appears to not understand the evolution of humans. Humans and other primates of the Caterrhini clade are the products of a common ancestor. In the same way you are related to others who have the same grandparents as you, humans are related to other primates that have the same (great-great) grandparents.
The concept of "lower animals" is derived from the understanding and appreciation that humans possess unique capabilities that no other species has acquired. If we wished it, we could bend all other species to our will or eradicate them altogether. We have been able to manipulate our environment to a greater extent than any other species in history. You are right in that all species occupy niches on Earth. But humans are unique in that we could occupy almost any niche on Earth with sufficient preparation. If you deny that, it is not worth my time to speak to you.
Sad to hear he was willing to be manipulated by popular thinking. BUT he didn’t see most of the evidence that we now know, which makes the case much clearer.
@@KenJackson_US I was being facetious. I was incredulous at the dissonance between the appellation "theistic evolutionist" and the indication that Lewis really believed that natural selection accounted for the loss of attributes, or the honing or speciation of innate potential traits or characteristics as we observe in plant and animal husbandry, involving (again) a loss or refinement of information.
@@KenJackson_US I reckon when you're as famous as C.S. Lewis, & everyone wants to glom on to your legacy, your name lives posthumously in the Appellation Mountains.
You can't set-up religious beliefs as a pre-condition to accepting scientific evidence, and the conclusions that follow. Most religious beliefs are founded on highly questionable, and even non-existent evidence, so why should 'beliefs' trump actual evidence? Faith is by definition a personal choice to believe in that which there is no credible evidence. (Otherwise it would be called fact, not faith...)
Six miracles atheists believe in... But there is no miracle worker 1. Existence from non-existence 2. Order comes from chaos 3. Life comes from non-life 4. The personal comes from the non-personal 5. Reason comes from non-reason 6. Morality comes from matter
Thanks. Now I know that Lewis learned nothing than he studied philosophy. Darwin is based on evidence, Spencer is based on prejudice. And Lewis - it seems - is based on a total lack of understanding, making him the perfect witness for creationists
The Origin of Species OR The Reason for Superior Races
Very good stuff
Wisest wisdom persists like Psalms. Thank you for this aggregation.
One of the best lectures I have ever heard and it has fifty three upvotes. That describes the times we live in pretty well.
Ah much better
Mom ❤
Dr. West: "...whether Lewis finally accepted that humans evolved from lower animals..." There really is no such thing as "lower animals". All organisms on earth occupy environmental niches, and are very good at occupying those niches. In fact, given that 99% of organisms that have existed on earth are extinct, one could say the extant organisms are the "1%". Nothing "lower" about that. Dr. West also appears to not understand the evolution of humans. Humans and other primates of the Caterrhini clade are the products of a common ancestor. In the same way you are related to others who have the same grandparents as you, humans are related to other primates that have the same (great-great) grandparents.
The concept of "lower animals" is derived from the understanding and appreciation that humans possess unique capabilities that no other species has acquired. If we wished it, we could bend all other species to our will or eradicate them altogether. We have been able to manipulate our environment to a greater extent than any other species in history. You are right in that all species occupy niches on Earth. But humans are unique in that we could occupy almost any niche on Earth with sufficient preparation. If you deny that, it is not worth my time to speak to you.
Relax and stop hurrying
Sad to hear he was willing to be manipulated by popular thinking. BUT he didn’t see most of the evidence that we now know, which makes the case much clearer.
Those arguments have been shown to be false for a long time now. A simple web search can debunk them.
Its very intelligent design to have a tail bone at the end of our spine.
and to let organs function all at the same time simultaneously
@@janpieternieman5295 "Let there be light".
So evolution explains devolution. Hilarious!
What do you mean by _"evolution"?_
@@KenJackson_US I was being facetious. I was incredulous at the dissonance between the appellation "theistic evolutionist" and the indication that Lewis really believed that natural selection accounted for the loss of attributes, or the honing or speciation of innate potential traits or characteristics as we observe in plant and animal husbandry, involving (again) a loss or refinement of information.
@@KenJackson_US I reckon when you're as famous as C.S. Lewis, & everyone wants to glom on to your legacy, your name lives posthumously in the Appellation Mountains.
@@KenJackson_US medicalmisinformation is probably referring to macro evolution.
KenJackson asks "What do you mean by evolution"? I'm asking what do you mean? And you find that hilarious?
You can't set-up religious beliefs as a pre-condition to accepting scientific evidence, and the conclusions that follow.
Most religious beliefs are founded on highly questionable, and even non-existent evidence, so why should 'beliefs' trump actual evidence?
Faith is by definition a personal choice to believe in that which there is no credible evidence. (Otherwise it would be called fact, not faith...)
Six miracles atheists believe in... But there is no miracle worker
1. Existence from non-existence
2. Order comes from chaos
3. Life comes from non-life
4. The personal comes from the non-personal
5. Reason comes from non-reason
6. Morality comes from matter
@@Johnny-mz9ot stop calling them atheists. They are Marxist.
@@Johnny-mz9ot
7. A pile of rubble will spontaneously form into a mansion.
C S Lewis , fictional author 😂
Thanks. Now I know that Lewis learned nothing than he studied philosophy. Darwin is based on evidence, Spencer is based on prejudice. And Lewis - it seems - is based on a total lack of understanding, making him the perfect witness for creationists
Seriously empty opinion
Darwin literally wrote “i think” in his first phylogenetic tree.
Time for you to update your knowledge with recent studies, instead of making assertions based on "zombie science"
Darwinism is still yet to explain how life came from none life though. 🤔
There is no support for the Darwinian narrative of evolution within the fossil record