Incredible. Fantastic scenery on this journey. You guys are tough, fearless, and adventurous beyond definition. thank you for taking the time to put this video together for all to enjoy. I KNOW the editing process is a major PIA. Take care- Al near Seattle....
You are putting out one of the best, maybe the best series of videos on Tour of Idaho. Lots of useful details and information along with great video and just the right amount of narration. This is a dream trip for me and at almost 56 years old I better do it soon! Living all the way on the east coast makes the logistics extra challenging as I'd need to block out almost 3 weeks to make it happen. Until then, I'll live vicariously through your videos. Thank You for all your hard work putting these out!
Thank you Dale. That's a generous compliment, but I do appreciate it. I know what it's like to be on the other side of the equation, trying to read, view, and soak up all the information you can in preparation for the Tour. We were fortunate to finish the Tour and going in, I knew I wanted to do something like this if I was fortunate enough to finish.
I was surprised that Charles would ride a 2 stroke bike on a trip like this. How could he possibly carry all the premix required to fuel his bike? What make/model bike was Charles riding? Incredible video series on the TOI, easily the best series I have seen. Mike on the orange KTM 500 is a seriously talented rider! What gearing did you select for this trip? I live in a remote section of CO and use a 14/48 setup on my 350 EXC-F.
His bike was a TPI so he didn't have to mix gas, but he did have to carry oil. He had enough to make it the first 5 days and then had an opportunity to buy more in Salmon, but unfortunately he wasn't able to ride after Day 4.
When we finished the tour in 2018, we both said that Day 4 and Day 7 (now Day 8) were the toughest. We had a similar issue on Custer and you're right, the last 15-20 miles seem to go on forever, even in the daylight. I remember being ticked because I could see Challis but it still took use almost two hours to get there! Great videos Mike, really enjoying them!
@@ridewithmike962 :) something along the lines of going too fast and clipping that one rock...I was a little rung out too which didn't help! Some good pictures of it. I'll share more someday.
@@donstafford9658 Funny thing is, I know "that one rock" you are referring to, and I 100% understand the "little rung out too" comment. All too familiar :)
I live at the eastern end of th eMagruder Corridor. I've never had the time to do the whole route in one trip but I've been fortunate enough to do several pieces of The Tour. I am here to make the case for 125 two strokes. SOMe days you dump the bike a lot. Or just horseing the bike up and down hill can really wear you out. I have my '89 YZ125 down to 203 lbs wet. It makes a big difference. You just have to be more proficient with clutch and throttle on a 125 but there is plenty of power there even for me at 205lbs with 40 pounds of gear.
It's worth the wait. This is invaluable beta and entertainment. It would be interesting to get your thoughts on gear and strategy now that you've completed the tour.
The only change I made was switched the rear to a 50 tooth. It was plenty low for the trails.....maybe a tad too low for the long road sections but not a problem if kept under 60-65 mph. My buddy had a 52 tooth rear and although it was great on the trail, I think he wished had something taller for the transfer sections. I also think his gas mileage suffered a bit because of it too.
I always carry 35 feet of 3/8 rope. WHen you dump it on a steep side hill I can tie off on wheel to something uphill and move the other end. I ride alone a lot so "self-rescue" is important to me. But in that side hill nightmare, tieing th ebike off can save HUGE headaches
Agreed. We had some rope with us for just that purpose, but with two guys, it was quicker and easier in that situation to just heave it back on the trail. Riding solo in this country, a self-rescue kit would be essential.
Enjoying your vids. I noticed you had about 4.5 hours of no riding time. That's quite a lot for the day but I understand with the lunch decision and all. What do you think ideally is the most off riding time you should give yourself?
Hi...good quesiton. 4.5 hours was a lot for this day but lunch was a good portion of that, plus what many don't realize (and I didn't either) until running the Tour, is that stopping to take selfies at all the challenge points and taking the time to post them, takes a little more time than you think. Over the courses of a long day, it can really add up. We didn't lolly gag, but we did take a few breaks each day so it's really hard to put a recommended duration out there. I would say, focus more on just being consistent all day. Breaks are good and necessary, but they shouldn't be too long. We tried to eat and drink when we stopped for challenge points.
It's a Mosko Moto Pico tank bag. I just wanted something small enough for phone, wallet, cables, a few other small items. It fits the bill perfectly for that.
We were using the Baofeng UV-82 radios programmed to an FRS channel (lots of videos on TH-cam of how to do this). We then used a push to talk helmet headset from planetheadset.com. Initially I didn't want to use the push to talk headset because I figured the radios clipped to our packs would be good enough (and they could have been), but having the ability to conveniently communicate without stopping was totally worth the trade off for having to clip in everytime you got on/off the bike. The power and range of these radios was far greater than any bluetooth wireless headset and allowed us to really space ourselves at times.
I was running 14/50. My buddy who was also on a 500 EXC (a 2020), was running 14/52. I had a little more top-speed. With either of those gearing combos, 2nd gear is the sweet spot on these bikes for this type of riding. 1st gear is a granny gear, but in all but the absolute gnarliest of stuff, I found 2nd gear with some good clutch control, to be the better (smoother) combo.
Just posted Day 5 today. They’re part of a Tour of Idaho playlist so the next video in sequence should auto play. I’m slowly working on them between life :)
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That Custer lookout trail is amazing and terrifying. I love Idaho single track!
Incredible. Fantastic scenery on this journey. You guys are tough, fearless, and adventurous beyond definition. thank you for taking the time to put this video together for all to enjoy. I KNOW the editing process is a major PIA. Take care- Al near Seattle....
Glad you enjoyed it. I love this kind of riding.
You are putting out one of the best, maybe the best series of videos on Tour of Idaho. Lots of useful details and information along with great video and just the right amount of narration. This is a dream trip for me and at almost 56 years old I better do it soon! Living all the way on the east coast makes the logistics extra challenging as I'd need to block out almost 3 weeks to make it happen. Until then, I'll live vicariously through your videos. Thank You for all your hard work putting these out!
Thank you Dale. That's a generous compliment, but I do appreciate it. I know what it's like to be on the other side of the equation, trying to read, view, and soak up all the information you can in preparation for the Tour. We were fortunate to finish the Tour and going in, I knew I wanted to do something like this if I was fortunate enough to finish.
Ride on!!
Amazing riding and video production! Wow!
Thanks for sharing!
Amazing job documenting this epic ride!! Really enjoying this series - thx guys!
I was surprised that Charles would ride a 2 stroke bike on a trip like this. How could he possibly carry all the premix required to fuel his bike? What make/model bike was Charles riding? Incredible video series on the TOI, easily the best series I have seen. Mike on the orange KTM 500 is a seriously talented rider! What gearing did you select for this trip? I live in a remote section of CO and use a 14/48 setup on my 350 EXC-F.
His bike was a TPI so he didn't have to mix gas, but he did have to carry oil. He had enough to make it the first 5 days and then had an opportunity to buy more in Salmon, but unfortunately he wasn't able to ride after Day 4.
When we finished the tour in 2018, we both said that Day 4 and Day 7 (now Day 8) were the toughest. We had a similar issue on Custer and you're right, the last 15-20 miles seem to go on forever, even in the daylight. I remember being ticked because I could see Challis but it still took use almost two hours to get there! Great videos Mike, really enjoying them!
I've heard rumor of your similar troubles on Custer :) Would love the whole story someday.
@@ridewithmike962 :) something along the lines of going too fast and clipping that one rock...I was a little rung out too which didn't help! Some good pictures of it. I'll share more someday.
@@donstafford9658 Funny thing is, I know "that one rock" you are referring to, and I 100% understand the "little rung out too" comment. All too familiar :)
We enjoy your videos been sharing them with friends!
Glad you're enjoying them!
I live at the eastern end of th eMagruder Corridor. I've never had the time to do the whole route in one trip but I've been fortunate enough to do several pieces of The Tour. I am here to make the case for 125 two strokes. SOMe days you dump the bike a lot. Or just horseing the bike up and down hill can really wear you out. I have my '89 YZ125 down to 203 lbs wet. It makes a big difference. You just have to be more proficient with clutch and throttle on a 125 but there is plenty of power there even for me at 205lbs with 40 pounds of gear.
Sounds like a great place to live. I also have a KTM 250xc and for many sections of the Tour, it would have been an ideal bike.
Yes!!! Been waiting for this. You guys ROCK.
Thanks for being patient and following along! The other days will be coming.
It's worth the wait. This is invaluable beta and entertainment. It would be interesting to get your thoughts on gear and strategy now that you've completed the tour.
Great video. What time of year did you do the tour?
Whar gearing did you run on your 500?
The only change I made was switched the rear to a 50 tooth. It was plenty low for the trails.....maybe a tad too low for the long road sections but not a problem if kept under 60-65 mph. My buddy had a 52 tooth rear and although it was great on the trail, I think he wished had something taller for the transfer sections. I also think his gas mileage suffered a bit because of it too.
Great Video, I'm a follower now. This was a long day after that day 3. Brings back great memories, and gets me motivated again. Thanks man.
Glad you enjoyed it. More to come.
I always carry 35 feet of 3/8 rope. WHen you dump it on a steep side hill I can tie off on wheel to something uphill and move the other end. I ride alone a lot so "self-rescue" is important to me. But in that side hill nightmare, tieing th ebike off can save HUGE headaches
Agreed. We had some rope with us for just that purpose, but with two guys, it was quicker and easier in that situation to just heave it back on the trail. Riding solo in this country, a self-rescue kit would be essential.
I see a two-stroke in the mix.
I’m riding this season on my 2018 300xcw. Please hit me up so we can talk about the variant on gas and oil needs?
Enjoying your vids. I noticed you had about 4.5 hours of no riding time. That's quite a lot for the day but I understand with the lunch decision and all. What do you think ideally is the most off riding time you should give yourself?
Hi...good quesiton. 4.5 hours was a lot for this day but lunch was a good portion of that, plus what many don't realize (and I didn't either) until running the Tour, is that stopping to take selfies at all the challenge points and taking the time to post them, takes a little more time than you think. Over the courses of a long day, it can really add up. We didn't lolly gag, but we did take a few breaks each day so it's really hard to put a recommended duration out there. I would say, focus more on just being consistent all day. Breaks are good and necessary, but they shouldn't be too long. We tried to eat and drink when we stopped for challenge points.
What tank bag are you using?
It's a Mosko Moto Pico tank bag. I just wanted something small enough for phone, wallet, cables, a few other small items. It fits the bill perfectly for that.
Could you tell me what are you were using for communications on your bikes?
We were using the Baofeng UV-82 radios programmed to an FRS channel (lots of videos on TH-cam of how to do this). We then used a push to talk helmet headset from planetheadset.com. Initially I didn't want to use the push to talk headset because I figured the radios clipped to our packs would be good enough (and they could have been), but having the ability to conveniently communicate without stopping was totally worth the trade off for having to clip in everytime you got on/off the bike. The power and range of these radios was far greater than any bluetooth wireless headset and allowed us to really space ourselves at times.
@@ridewithmike962 Any chance you could post the link of the PTT headset that you bought?
@@bobbyrouse898 m.planetheadset.com/Snowcom.php
How did you recreate the trip on Google Earth?
Hi Mike. What gearing were you running on the 500?
I was running 14/50. My buddy who was also on a 500 EXC (a 2020), was running 14/52. I had a little more top-speed. With either of those gearing combos, 2nd gear is the sweet spot on these bikes for this type of riding. 1st gear is a granny gear, but in all but the absolute gnarliest of stuff, I found 2nd gear with some good clutch control, to be the better (smoother) combo.
Where is day 5 and so forth?
Just posted Day 5 today. They’re part of a Tour of Idaho playlist so the next video in sequence should auto play.
I’m slowly working on them between life :)
Wow, quite a day! Your videos are approaching commercial grade. Ha, you might have to start charging us to watch them…..
Thanks Marshal. Glad you're enjoying them. As a "Tour vet", I know you can appreciate some of what goes throughout the day out there on the trail. .
Ktm lead guy can ride a bike!!! 🙌🏻 nice job fellas. That ole 5 hunny just a lugging