RARE Factory Olds Drag Package 442
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- Old School muscle at its finest! The 1966 and 67 Oldsmobile W-30's were built for NHRA C/stock class and are the only specific race package cars ever produced by the division. This one is fresh off an 11 year long restoration, accurate right down to the paint marks on it's hoses.
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I believe actor James Garner owned one. Being he was involved in offroad with Olds in his Banshee and 442's. His team was American International Racers.
Apparently the stunt drivers were so impressed by his pace on the set of Grand Prix they thought he'd have what it takes to be a racing driver had he chosen that instead of acting.
I think it snowballed from there.
He also ran off-road modified Rambler SC/Ramblers as well. Quite a legacy...
Check out the Big Oly Bronco Garner raced. Super, super cool. James Garner was one of the greats.
@@disgruntledmarmotcustomsan1530 cool! Will do thx!
The off road Olds was on Jay Leno a while back, it is still being raced. A few things, the chassis is all tube, the body 3/4 ish scale fiberglass , front spindles are Dodge van, the motor is mostly in the passenger compartment. I " think " George Barris made the body.
Sometimes I can appreciate a trailer queen...... and this is one of those times.... that thing is beautiful.
Beautiful, OUTSTANDING, I love the sound of that cam.
Oldsmobile always SO far ahead of the curve and under appreciated! GM used them and abused them and never deserved to have them under their banner! So Many Oldsmobile oddities and amazing stories! Go to the REO museum in Lansing and you will learn about the Genius that started this iconic and storied brand!
That's an awesome car I can't Believe the amount of detail he put into it. It's beautiful. I wonder if the drag package was designed to be the successor to the J2 olds.
No wonder Andy wasn’t bothered by the state of the Hemi car. Fixing this car to that level makes that Hemi project look like taking a trip to Walmart. Lol That is a crazy high end restoration. Like $50k plus I would bet.
I'd bet it was more like 50k for each year it was being restored...He mentioned a few rare parts they acquired that had to cost metric buckets of cash..
Legendary Interiors was in Macedon,ny and moved to Newerk 9 miles away to a much bigger building.
Pebble Beach should be so lucky.
Beautifully restored car and very interesting piece of olds history. Sorry guys but the exhaust doesn’t sound good 😌. But again a very interesting piece of history.
wow this is incredible! the attention to detail is insane!
My first “real” job after college was as an insurance adjuster in Western KY starting in the fall of 1966. My first claim was on a ‘66 Olds 442 tri-power that caught fire on a dealership post service test drive after working on a carburetor leak. The car burned on the side of the road before the Hopkinsville, KY FD could respond. The car was less than a month old and the owner said when he took delivery the odor of raw gasoline was constantly present. The dealership and Oldsmobile denied the young man’s claim pretty much as stuff happens.
The MSRP on the car was over $4k which was about five or six hundred dollars more than the standard 442’s at the time. The owner explained to me and my (trainer) senior claim rep this was a “special” edition but never called it a W-30. He said he would prolly would not be able to replace the burned out unit with a like model. Several months earlier Hot Rod mag did an article on the 442’s and said to remember the option called W-30, I was intrigued by the article, and once I saw the sales invoice provided for the claim settlement I realized that the car was very special. Now I really realize what a “very special edition” that car was.
How did they legally get away with denying that claim? Today that would be a cut and dry case of fraud on the dealership and manufacturers part. Massive lawsuit, the owner would likely get a settlement large enough he and several of his descendants would never have to work again.
@@outspokengenius yeah unfortunately litigation is an everyday occurrence people are looking for ways to make money without actually making money
i would’ve sued the shit out of the dealer and GM! That could’ve killed the whole family!
@@ahoneyman He posted that it burned after the dealer worked on the carb, didn't catch if it was him that was driving, could have been the mechanic?
Bought a new 442 in 69. Paid just over 5 grand.
Haven't seen one of these in years. Beginning of the "W" machines. Love the Olds love.
Top 10 fastest cars of the era. People just don't know how quick these are.
Thanks for sharing that with us Uncle Tony, Oldsmobile's don't get as much attention as the others in the big three
A friend of the family Paul was an Oldsmobile guy and would have loved to see that one for sure
I love how he beat Uncle Tony to saying "See ya tomorrow" lmfao
Right on the money in several ways. Damn near brought a tear to my eye.
As in most restorations, it’s much nicer than the say it was new. They did not have as nice of paint
I am proud of and will never sell my set of Olds "B" heads with the "tr" code stamped on the pad for a set of original L-69 tri power cars...not to be confused with the super rare w-30 like this one they made, oh crap forgot the exact number, 2700 ish tri power L-69 cars. Also got the 400 block from same set of heads but unfortunately know for a fact the original donor body is long gone. Still tho want to find the right home for these B heads and a bad Ass g block 400 olds and hit up pure stock.
It's not like I've never turned a wrench on a classic olds before!
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I know how you feel, sir... as an old machinist/racer, I saved an LS6 and a w30455
I saw a magazine article on the three carburetor olds and they had 1275 L69s I think plus 54 W30s with the forced induction air cleaner.
I own a L69 intake and carbs with 3 tiny air filters. I used it on a low compression 455 from a 73 or so cutlass.
Never underestimate an Oldsmobile. I've got a 455 in my jet boat with a tuned Qjet that spanks a lot of big dollar boats. Absolutely a beautiful car! Great vid guys!
i saw an old olds ad- from about 1903. it claimed that the gas fuel supply was much more dependable that trying to find quality hay and oats! times have changed? lol
@@craigrheberling
I own a 1927 Ford Model T. It's been in my family for a long time. I recall my Grandfather telling me that during the depression, it was easier to keep one of those running than it was to feed a horse.
those old Qjets would run better than a holy would, if you could find someone that new how to properly tune one
@@jackhayes7282NO, they don't, BUT they're a great carb for a mild street car.
I've gotten into the 10s in the quarter with a Q-Jet, but it had a LOT of work into it, and that's about as far as it would go. Once I finally replaced it with a Holley, the car went into the 9s on it's first pass off the trailer, and went even faster once the Holley was tuned to perfection.
The Q-Jet is a GREAT street carb though, and gets respectable MPGs and good throttle response because of the tiny triple booster design. They start well in the cold also because the automatic choke on them works very well. The HUGE secondaries make some sweet noises when you bury the throttle pedal too... 😁
You are correct though, they are a P.I.T.A. to work on, tuning parts aren't easy to come by compared to Holley parts. The single float bowl is very small, and doesn't hold alot of fuel, it's hard to keep that tiny bowl full of fuel on a fast car, and when the fuel level in the bowl starts to get low it will vastly affect the tuning. They're not a very user friendly carb to work on either, as you have to remove it and take the entire thing apart to get at the jets, power pistons, metering rods, and other tuning parts. And it takes a guy with specific knowledge of them to be able to super tune one. Most guys have no clue how they work, and simply call them "Junk" when they can't get them tuned properly.
I've spent MANY hours working on mine to get it to the point of running low 10s, and I now can do then in my sleep. There's a great book put there by Cliff Ruggles if anyone is interested in learning how to super tune them.
What an amazing restoration, very cool car. Well done boys! That exhaust is music to the ears.
I've never heard a car like that in my life. what a absolute gem
I wonder if it has the factory boxed convertible frame. Olds had a lot of options to chose from when ordering a car. Tons of gears, trannys, handling options ect.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah! I'm a on the younger side of your viewership, but man I love old Oldsmobiles.
This really is a piece of art that's been masterfully executed.
No Flowmaster will ever sound like this car, that son is unique sound of true American Muscle.
The air intakes where mounted under bumpers I Race olds w 30 drag cars in 1967. none Olds in St Paul Minnesota sold me one of the 52 drag pack cars the car wone the division nhra champions in 1967 at Minnesota dragways that 66 is not a olds drag PAC car why do I know I had a 65 and a a 66 tri power car bought them new this guy is full of s. Don't get suck in you can check me out Gary Hansen also owner of Tenora Dragways
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In my past "work" life of car shows and going to them, meeting the people who care for these Special Classics was major plus.. thanks Boss and Boss lady..
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Sweet. I owned a 1973 W45 Hurst/Olds. With the swivel buckets...
The 73 is such a one off look...... they are sweet.
My favorite of the early colonnade cars. They look absolutely menacing with the front bumpers off.
I also had a 1973 Olds 442. Red with the lower white stripe that ran along the bottom and over the wheel wells with stripe down the hood that came with the fake louvers. Olds 350 Rocket with Turbo 350 which i replaced with a 455 from a 70 Toronado adding a "Mondell Olds" Camshaft and a set of Hooker headers. I ended up ripping the right rear lower control arm out the frame ( it was from Ohio so it was a little rusty) on the 1-2 shift street racing and spinning it into the guard rail on I-680 bridge.
@@danielscott6787 I also had a Mondello 455 full roller motor. I was also one of the 1st 10 people in the US to get the edelbrock aluminum heads when they 1st came out. Mandello did the port work to my heads and Offenhauser intake. Had the Mondello support girdle 1050 holly dom. 600hp motor and 800hp/777tq on a 175 shot of nos. 455 has a long stroke great torque but they don't love rpms.
@@theeoddments960 yes, the front bumpers are flippin' HUGE!!! They do look good when properly shaved...
1966 is the first year for the W30. A 66 W30 is a holy grail car for Olds lovers since only 54 were built. Sam Murray's 67 W30 442 (single QJet) runs 10.90's in E Stock so a race prepped 66 W30 would run at least as quick.
There's a 67 W30 in front of that 66 just to the left at 2:30 in, I'm at the show now.
Not as rare, but I never see them - the '64 442. I used to see '65s, but never '64s. I finally came to realize the reason for the low '64 production numbers. It was a mid-year response to the success of the iconic '64 GTO - the car that started the big V8 in a small car (muscle car) movement.
There's 3 or 4 64s here at the show. Also, I remember Olds played by the rules per say as GM said no larger than 330 cubic inch engine so Olds came out with a 330. Pontiac got around it by saying it was an option on the Tempest/LeMans.
Thanks Tony! This is the holy grail of olds. We have a guy in our olds club with one...it's just a beast with the short stroke 400
It has a 3.975 stroke that's not exactly short even by big block standards just slightly less than the 454 stroke. The 427 Ford, 426 Mopars and 427 Chevy were around 3.75 give or take a few.
The 68+ 400s had a 4.25 stroke, same as the 455, the 65-67 400s had forged steel crank and rods and were known to be more rev happy than 68+.
@@olznut 67 330 had the same goodies inside... lucky to have the 394417 block that has a 39° cba
@@robd7365 Yes, all 330, 400 and 425 from 64-67 had those goodies.
gm really had the best looking midsized car in 66 and 67 to me.
Glad you told him to start it up Tony 👍
I always loved those chambered tailpipes; they have a distinct, unique sound.
And GM killed Oldsmobile. But keeps Cadillac. Duh
This is an abso-damn-lutely BEAUTIFUL and rare beast that was clearly shown the love it deserves. Uncle Tony and the owner, you guys both rock.
And this is high praise from a Ford and Mopar man.
Reminds me there was a w30 package for the 425 Toronado's. The regional Olds tech school instructor in Kansas city had one. Their were 5 guys init at a stop light when a popular Chevelle 327 pulls up. Imagine he was a little surprised that this hug car jumped him off the line smok coming from the front wheels.
W-34 package
Beautiful car! Can't help thinking Dodge nicked that roof line for the '68 Charger.
Same roofline appeared on some 1966 Chevelles (and on Beaumonts in Canada), but half of them had Stovebolt 6's that always stalled when the light turned green (because of their infamous intake manifold gasket vacuum leak)
Seems odd that it has factory under hood insulation…. I thought that would add unnecessary weight.
True. And the carpet and wood trim on the doors. Part of what set Oldsmobile apart from totally plebeian Chevys! 😁
CHEERS! 🇺🇸
I thought the battery should have been at the rear of the trunk...
Plan Z!!
Thank you for starting the car! That exhaust note is truly amazing
It needs a coat of tire rubber at the rear wheel wells to go with the factory overspray.
YES! Because he has documentation that says it was raced.
PLEASE ADD THIS DETAIL!
Would make a great burn out video.
Omfg that car is beautiful and sounds amazing. Andy is so relaxed. I could never own a car that nice. Well I could but I wouldn't want anyone or anything near it. I'd be nervous 24/7
_I'd be nervous 24/7_ And this is the problem; Cars like this don't get used. I'm glad they exist as specimens but that's all they are, a display piece, not a real car.
@@buggs9950 true, the originals are too rare to be driven much, if at all, which is kinda sad but would be more sad to see or hear of one getting totaled in a traffic incident. This is the reason I have no problem with building clones/tributes.... provided the clone/tribute isn't being passed off as an original.
Nice to see an Olds from a Quad 4 owner. I really think GM biggest mistake of that era was NOT allowing their various 7 liter engines to be dropped (with all around disc brakes) in the later 60's musclecars, because if they did I don't think Chrysler would have a market for their cars outside the hemi 426. These 442's would have been damn near unbeatable with the Toronado 425 in there. I talked with an 442 owner at Carsile pa GM fairgrounds show, who said swapping in the 425 into the late 6's442's was a popular swap with Olds owners.
I had a 65' I bought in 69'. On Friday or Saturday night 1rst street cruises in San Jose CA. We would throw our hoods open. My engine would measure up to be as big of a block as the 427s, a head scratcher? I investigated, turns out the 65 442s 400s was a 425ci block taken from a surplus of them from their Olds 98 line, reduced to 400ci by the heads. That explained why I could run in the red but competition usually had to back off or blow! That engine was indestructible! That's the engine that tee'd things up for years to come.
I knew it existed but never saw one thank you for restoring this time capsle great restoration it can only be original once but you did a OUTSTANDING job of tryining to get the feel of a new oringinal example as you drove it off the line
If it was rusty and crusty like he said , then it needed a resto.
Glad to see it saved.
I once knew a guy who had a "regular" 1966 442 in red with black vinyl top. I tuned it for him in order to get a turn behind the wheel. It was one very sweet car to drive, handled great for a car of the time, rode well, and you could catch rubber at every upshift...and that was without the W30 motor.
Once the choke valve opened up, the engine sounded lovely! I love the X brand musclecars!
Those olds 400 from 66 to 67 could rev to 7,000. 68 to 69 400s are junk bc they have the 455 crankshaft which made it the most over square engine gm made at the time. These are an epic car.
Handy is never smiling much but you can tell he is having a stellar good time, good for you men!
You are becoming a legend!
Super cool Olds and absolutely stunning resoration!
Two Oldsmobile videos in two days! I’m in heaven! Ty uncle Tony!
I've seen 2 Olds vids just today. Keep 'em coming.
Amazing and beautiful car. In 55 years will a Tesla Model S P100 D be this impressive and rare? Don’t think so. One thing is for sure, a Tesla will never have a sound like this Oldsmobile.
Give the car its balls back, take it drag racing at least occasionally!
Is it just me or does it aggravate you as well that insecure interviewers like this can't resist butting in/interrupting the owners w/their nothing comments, while we just want to hear from the knowledgeable owners. If I owned this car & was asked for interview permission, my groundwork rules would be, "ONLY if you let ME do the talking!" I imagine if this obnoxious "yakker" was deprived of running his mouth, he'd friggin' explode! All 54 original W30 air cleaners were in fact stamped w/a number, whereas aftermarket re-pops were not. The 3-2s were available separately from the complete W30 package via option code L69.
Olds fan forlife.badazz what ever
Did I Hear SHROUD??...
Except the SHROUD Tony..
Be the SHROUD Tony..
You are the SHROUD Tony...
Beautiful love the w-30 olds daughters 71 w-30 sitting in my garage now have original intake someday take off the Holley dominator and mondello 850 Holley put on intake and original quadrajet engine has small 308 cam
I'm at the show and took many many pics of this car to help me in my 66 F85 Deluxe 442 restoration. What's even crazier is that this car didn't win the class, an equally nice 65 F85 442 won.
Big Oldsmobile fan had two a 64 jetstar88 and a 67 Delmont 88. Saddened me when they discontinued the brand.
I remember a commercial on TV saying that’s not your daddy‘s Oldsmobile from the by gone era !!!
I knew. It will scream Big Bore short stroke 400. It's a far superior vehicle than the GTX.
That's not my opinion it's a fact.
Who remembers Dr. Oldsmobile
I had a 67 442 back in 1973. They always had a distinct exhaust sound. We used to say it sounded like the didn't have any exhaust valves.
Traded a 1969 Mach 351 Mustang with only 6000 miles showing on the od for a 1967 Buick GS 400 Blk/Blk int. 4spd. 3:91 posi w/fact air & fact. Sun tach back in 1970-71 that had 80,000 miles on od......my friend (a Buick mechanic/auto shop teacher) gave it a super/tune & I replaced the tailpipes with 1967 442 slash cut pipes & installed a Hurst shifter/t-handle ......proceeded to win my first street race over another friend and his newly purchased '69 Z 28 RS twice .....lol
Perfect accompaniment to my Sunday morning coffee here in NZ.
It's cocktail hour for me!
Sunday morning?? Still Saturday evening here in Canada lol
It’s a comment from the future lol
Seems nobody remembers Dr. Olds nowadays, with his mustache and white lab coat.
Yeah I do, and what year did the advertising come out , 69?
@@lautburns4829 69 or 70 I think.
Incredible and underrated slice of Detroit muscle
My mom's first car was a bird egg blue 64 442 F85. Got a cool old picture of her on the hood of it from 1974. 😎 I'm a Olds,Buick,Pontiac Fan🤘 I want a 70 GSX or a 65to67 Buick Wildcat GS
That is amazing the reasearch and attention to detail that went into the restoration and presentation of that rare old's. Very nice job Guys!👍
This has always been one of my favorite cars, the 66 442! Comfort and power!
That is a beautiful car. I think I like it more than his HEMI GTX.
Big Block 400 was probably best GM motor.
Just for fun, the Oldsmobile 3 carb setup was a J-2 option, Tri-power was Pontiac. These cars (the W-30 option)came from the factory with a balanced engine. Pontiac got a lot more press and they were fantastic cars no doubt about it, but this thing was a monster and would destroy any challenger.
J2 is from the 1957 & 58 model years. The Oldsmobile L69 tri carb option was available for 1 year only, 1966.
LOVE.... LOVE.... LOVE THAT EXHAUST NOTE! 🥰
Great video. I was unaware that Oldsmobile produced any W30 series cars prior to their 1968 ramrod 350's. I owned a 1969 2-door post coup F85 with the W31 package with the 4:33 rear end. It was an awesome sleeper and on the street surprised a lot of Roadrunners, Chevelles, and GTO's. It ran in the low 14's in F stock at the Grand Bend drag strip in Ontario, Canada.
Oh man to buy a car new and it sound like that. I wish I was around in the day.
Seeing that Hurst reminded me of my '66 tri-power goat. The greatest driving experience of my life. How I regret not having that car today. Much respect for the thought, skill, time and effort that went into that W-30. I salute you.
Definitely agree ! My 66 goat with the 389 tri-power was the absolute best car I've ever owned !
My dad had a 66 delta 88 4dr I loved that car so this was cool to see thanks
Wow! Nice job l know how much work that is. Interesting l was born in '66 and I'm 54.
GREAT VIDEO UTG!!!👍👍 GREAT CAMERA WORK ULTRA KATHY!!!
Imagine having to wait 11 years to get your car back from restoration. That's a sweeet lookin' car and it sure does sound AWESOME. Music to my ears!!😊
His name is, Scott !
Nobody ever did it like Oldsmobile.
Outstanding job on the car Andy !!!
Steve did an amazing job on the restoration
Good luck at the next events with it
I might be a bit biased with the 66 in my garage 👍
me too
I talked to a guy at a car show once, he owned an Olds 442. He had no idea what that number meant 🤦♂️ I could never have a car that perfect. I am the reason we can't have nice things 😂
/w\ROAST'EM/w\ !!
A real "Time Capsule"!! Cool ride!!
Makes me want to get my 66 442 out of storage and bring it back to life!
I love Oldsmobiles.
I cant say enough . Great work guys . keep up the top Notch work and teaching the new Hot Rodders what its all about .
How can anyone dislike this video
This Olds is soooo cool, congratulation on this unique find and incredible work!
My Dad had a 67 F-85 std no frills and we loved it. I lived very close to rochester products and had a couple freinds who worked there and came home with some interesting things thrown away. The F-85 grill in 66 was so sexy. I really liked this set up. I am a Ford guy but I love them all.
Same here, Ford Torino's from 68/69 especially, but love them all from the Big 3 +1, even the oddballs of the 4dr and wagon lines.
That's a concours level restoration. It would almost be sacrilege to be doing donuts with it considering how many parts are impossible to replace. (But then again it would be sacrilege not to get some time slips as that is what the car was built for).
To do a concours level restoration you need to know your stuff!
Awesome indeed!
Amazing vehicle there are probably more Tuckers left than this one… and I thought my 1971 Buick stage 1 was low production
Best OAI/ram air system...cold air is toward the ground
How cold is it when it gets to the carb?
holy hell what a good job,......
Nuthin like a factory stock Hot Rod. Love those Rare Cars. Absolutely Beautiful.
If you haven’t figured it out yet, Tony doesn’t suffer fools. You could say he likes who he likes, and he genuinely seems to enjoy being in Andy’s company.
Yeah, this guy Andy certainly appears to have his shit together. Dude is obviously loaded, and not afraid to drop some serious cash on a hobby he loves.
Fantastic, never seen one, thanks for sharing a fine piece of automotive history. 2021
Oldsmobile or No Car!
As a Jr. in High School I quickly became an Olds fan when my uncle sold me his 'perfect' red 1964 442, 330 4 spd. w/American mags. After a 300 ft burnout in front of the school, my friend challenged me with his 1969 Boss 302.
We headed to Fremont dragstrip for Wednesday Drag night, where I ran 14.90 and beat the Boss 2 out of 2 ..with the High School girls cheering from the bleachers.
When GM shined!
The 66 Sports coup ( post car ) comes in around 3,430 pounds. The hard top Holiday coup is almost 3,700 pounds. I was amazed how smooth the W-30 cam sounded with the 308 Der. X .472 lift compared to my W-31 cam with a 295 Der. X .472 lift, however I changed to a 110 deg center line for a wider power band for Automatic trans .
CULT LEADER UTG
What an amazing find and very worthy of the restoration! 🇺🇸
I love the fact that it has carpet and wood trim. No sense in being completely plebeian, after all! 👍
Now thats an ending baby! Thanks
The SOUND!!! Beauty of a car