I agree with everything on the list. I love meks so much and I was initially upset when you brought it up but then I realized how right you are. I played a dedi where meks took much more turret damage than normal and it balanced it out, they should’ve done that on official. The bubble ability, laser pistol, and spam destruction is all it should really be used for in PVP
@@LogicWinsEventually I mean in your case just play unofficial where the rates are boosted or play 1x where everyone only has to do a little and it adds up to a lot. Stryders made farming too easy and screwed up the economy of a lot of resources…
i was waiting for the mana to be mentioned like you said when it first came out completely shifted the playstyle of the game they were untouchable when before all the nerfs
I hit a raid on a lost island pearl and there was a solid 80-100 neutral max level shadow manes in it. I got the loot out but literally could not figure out any means of killing them. I had a giga, a velo, a shadow mane, a poison wyvern all die trying to kill them. Its f-ing impossible
that is a pretty good/important video right here ! Shadowmanes are completely broken and have way too much abilities that are game breaking, these dinos should be removed or at least made non-breedable (that would set the deal as they are hard to tame) Stryder are too powerfull for farming... Karkinos magmasaur and skiff already broke farming but aparently they wanted more Fjordhawk are really frustrating and the teleport ability is breaking the game too... about meks they are 'fine' as long as they can't be duped and astro is 'fine' as long as there is no aimbotters on it... I'm really looking forward for fixes on those dinos and for a more OG gameplay with ASA, but i'm pretty scared already as they announced rhyniognatha will be on the Island at launch... and rhyniognatha is wayyyy stronger than other any The Island dinos, especially with no cryopods
4:00 honestly fjordhawks take the fun out of pve, too. You die in a location that it won’t be easy getting back to like inside the Magmasaur nests on gen1? Haha fjordhawk go brrr. It’s a dumb concept and I hope it’s reworked to do something different in ASA (maybe choosing like 5 random items from your kit and bringing them? Or the amount of the kit it can bring scales with weight? So you either have a tanky fjordhawk that brings back 2 random things or a fjordhawk with like 200 hp than brings your whole kit).
I never had a problem with new dinos but always hated Tec while playing on official pvp servers. Imagine you are flying on your hard earned lvl 290 100% imprint lightning wyvern. You get taken off the wyvern but a sneaky bat. You shoot the bat with a net shot and save yourself with a parachute. Now you are against a netted bat with your big wyvern roasting the enemy. But wait, he has crazy ascendant tec gear and just kills your wyvern on foot then kills you aswell. Not to mention, despite my friend and I surviving long enough to have an army of 20k hp and 600% damage shadowmanes. It was literally impossible for us to get Tec gear because every server had caves blocked by mega stacked clans that had probably controlled the server for years.
I remember when the mana came out it have render distance range with the same DMG as if you were in its face n it's dash could kill you through your armour in 1 hit off tames
Vind heart this if u remember playing with TFM (The Faceless Men) I was in it with u started watching u back then and glad to see you still here and coming to ASA
i agree with these and i would add few more Maewings (auto feed all babies) high weight one of the fastest dinos in the game they can have high hp so they became new speed pts to rush walls with can be ridden in caves as they are not considered fliers and can have 124 saddles pretty easily OP af Bats i think its self explenatory huge pick up radius like ridiculously high easy to heal can dive are decently fast quite possible one of the most manuverable dinos in the game can ride them anywhere on the map caves included and can have 124 saddles owls its stupid that such a small dino that can have a 124 saddle can have 80k+ hp when brontos can have like 75k with what 74.5 max saddles? pure stupidity and it can heal not just itself but also other dinos and players if u aint stupid in pvp they are close to immortal stegos oh lord 170k hp dino THAT HAS A REDUCED DMG TO TURRETS WTF saddles a piss cheap and u can find apprentice ones that can cap... litteraly 0 counter except the nets and even that is easy to prevent.... Carchas well i mean they are ok for now but i bet when lines get capped in the future they will be menece no dps dino will come even close to it and there will be 0 counter to a 100 stack bonus carchas 124 saddles high dmg can heal super fast on their own are fast and have way higher stam then gigas basically gigas without a single disadvantage of a giga + more still if only 1 dino can not make it in ASA i wish its shadowmain that shit needs to get the f out of this game + game needs hella balancing
I do agree with most of the things u said, but i would say Stego has alot more counters than just net. U can pick it with wyverns and crabs, kill player of with poison wyv / gas nades / rocketlaunchers, also the Mantis knocks out stegos very fast and thylas kill it very fast. I think the only thing that should be removed or nerved about stegos is the pin / bleeddamage it does.
Mana on unofficial is a nightmare capped saddles, slightly boosted melee and it kills anything in seconds which is most of the servers and yeah fjordhawk and almost everyone meshing on console was the end for me
I agree with most of them. Tje shadowmane really just ruined openworld pvp and the mana was gamebreaking when it came out, but after the balances it is in my opinion one of the best dinos in the game.
I kinda disagree about the Fjordhawk because is too useful to not lose everything you have when you're solo or you are starting and some random dude with a lv +300 dino comes to kill you, a good HP Fjordhawk would save your loot, and in my opinion is the best dino for starting because of how many times you are going to die to wild dinos
I’m excited for the drop of asa cuz it’ll only be the island for awhile butttt dude new big swamp bug might make things a bit tough if anyone tames one. That’s why I do pve now lol
i guess they were more thinking of pve when they released shadowmanes stryders and fjordhawks since after so many yaers people dont want to spend forever farming for resources and shadowmanes are a really cool mount for pve and u know not lose ur entire inventory to falling into the lava due to lag or some goofy bugs like falling through the ground, but yeah all this stuff breaks pvp i never touched ark pve cos i feel pve is more fun but damn imagine losing someones kit after u beat them to a fjordhawk or getting ur base spammed by meks, ngl really cool stuff for pve is always broken for pvp maybe they can disable some dinos in pvp but its mightbe kinda wierd idk
Ok lets be real now Vin. Its ark we are talking about, the one and only snail games. Do you honestly think everything will be good and awesome when the "new ark" comes out in a few days? I know it, you know it and every1 els knows it will be trash, they are just in a panic atm cus they need to make money - If they dont its bye bye ark. Meshing, duping, EPS .... U name it, and it will be there.
Voidwyrm isnt really that op tho it can be used to stop mek and tapy rush but shadowmane is way better in regular pvp so almost no one uses them anymore
Meks didn't break the game. So I don't think it fits the list. It's directly linked to cheating .. duped meks ruined the game. Allowing for each tribe to have unlimited duped meks ruined the game, with zero policing.
I understand why these are your issues. You are more pvp focused. But for the ppl that don’t have the time of day cause they have a family and work. And just want to hop on real quick to add a little more everyday. Not tryna spend the next week grinding for materials
Everyone saying this is only for pvp yeah that’s true but pvp is a part of the player base and should be taken into account aswell if not Pve should have different Dino’s to pvp lol
I always hated flyer PvP Big Dino going chomp chomp always seemed more fun to me Shadowmanes definitely succeed in bringing the fight back to the ground
bro if you want take out all the dinos what are not from island to don't broke ark right?, i see what u don't know how play ark bro, u don't know how to kill easly a fjorhawk?, come on it's the easiest thing to do on ark
I agree with everything on the list. I love meks so much and I was initially upset when you brought it up but then I realized how right you are. I played a dedi where meks took much more turret damage than normal and it balanced it out, they should’ve done that on official. The bubble ability, laser pistol, and spam destruction is all it should really be used for in PVP
@@LogicWinsEventually I mean in your case just play unofficial where the rates are boosted or play 1x where everyone only has to do a little and it adds up to a lot. Stryders made farming too easy and screwed up the economy of a lot of resources…
i was waiting for the mana to be mentioned like you said when it first came out completely shifted the playstyle of the game they were untouchable when before all the nerfs
Yeah but by now they are actually pretty balanced, the Gen2 Dinos are still stupidly overpowered.
After dinos aberation > OP.
Yes
Stryders gave us chance to compete against dupers
Tek broke Ark long ago.
I hit a raid on a lost island pearl and there was a solid 80-100 neutral max level shadow manes in it. I got the loot out but literally could not figure out any means of killing them. I had a giga, a velo, a shadow mane, a poison wyvern all die trying to kill them. Its f-ing impossible
that is a pretty good/important video right here !
Shadowmanes are completely broken and have way too much abilities that are game breaking, these dinos should be removed or at least made non-breedable (that would set the deal as they are hard to tame)
Stryder are too powerfull for farming... Karkinos magmasaur and skiff already broke farming but aparently they wanted more
Fjordhawk are really frustrating and the teleport ability is breaking the game too...
about meks they are 'fine' as long as they can't be duped
and astro is 'fine' as long as there is no aimbotters on it...
I'm really looking forward for fixes on those dinos and for a more OG gameplay with ASA, but i'm pretty scared already as they announced rhyniognatha will be on the Island at launch... and rhyniognatha is wayyyy stronger than other any The Island dinos, especially with no cryopods
The creatures from GEN 1 & 2 and extinction shouldn't be transfarble to the other maps in ase
They should just never release Gen2, everything about it just makes pvp suck.
Notice how every single thing that broke ark was released from Genesis onwards
4:00 honestly fjordhawks take the fun out of pve, too. You die in a location that it won’t be easy getting back to like inside the Magmasaur nests on gen1? Haha fjordhawk go brrr. It’s a dumb concept and I hope it’s reworked to do something different in ASA (maybe choosing like 5 random items from your kit and bringing them? Or the amount of the kit it can bring scales with weight? So you either have a tanky fjordhawk that brings back 2 random things or a fjordhawk with like 200 hp than brings your whole kit).
true but some servers have a low Decay Timer and you can lose all your stuff a whole lot more often
I never had a problem with new dinos but always hated Tec while playing on official pvp servers.
Imagine you are flying on your hard earned lvl 290 100% imprint lightning wyvern. You get taken off the wyvern but a sneaky bat. You shoot the bat with a net shot and save yourself with a parachute. Now you are against a netted bat with your big wyvern roasting the enemy. But wait, he has crazy ascendant tec gear and just kills your wyvern on foot then kills you aswell.
Not to mention, despite my friend and I surviving long enough to have an army of 20k hp and 600% damage shadowmanes. It was literally impossible for us to get Tec gear because every server had caves blocked by mega stacked clans that had probably controlled the server for years.
I remember when the mana came out it have render distance range with the same DMG as if you were in its face n it's dash could kill you through your armour in 1 hit off tames
Vind heart this if u remember playing with TFM (The Faceless Men) I was in it with u started watching u back then and glad to see you still here and coming to ASA
I don't mind mana now but holy I remember when that bitty first came out ark was hell.
Any Dino that is quality of life shouldn’t be on this list complaining something is too efficient is crazy to me
I really hope genesis doesn’t come out nor net guns and if it does I hope it has a full rework for ASA so there’s no missions or broken tames etc
+rhynio
I think they should make meks like the skiff when crafting. You should have to have space to craft rather than getting an item
You should Make a vid on what ruined ark with metas throughout the years
i agree with these and i would add few more
Maewings (auto feed all babies) high weight one of the fastest dinos in the game they can have high hp so they became new speed pts to rush walls with can be ridden in caves as they are not considered fliers and can have 124 saddles pretty easily OP af
Bats i think its self explenatory huge pick up radius like ridiculously high easy to heal can dive are decently fast quite possible one of the most manuverable dinos in the game can ride them anywhere on the map caves included and can have 124 saddles
owls its stupid that such a small dino that can have a 124 saddle can have 80k+ hp when brontos can have like 75k with what 74.5 max saddles? pure stupidity and it can heal not just itself but also other dinos and players if u aint stupid in pvp they are close to immortal
stegos oh lord 170k hp dino THAT HAS A REDUCED DMG TO TURRETS WTF saddles a piss cheap and u can find apprentice ones that can cap... litteraly 0 counter except the nets and even that is easy to prevent....
Carchas well i mean they are ok for now but i bet when lines get capped in the future they will be menece no dps dino will come even close to it and there will be 0 counter to a 100 stack bonus carchas 124 saddles high dmg can heal super fast on their own are fast and have way higher stam then gigas basically gigas without a single disadvantage of a giga + more
still if only 1 dino can not make it in ASA i wish its shadowmain that shit needs to get the f out of this game + game needs hella balancing
Everything u said was just perfect and understandable I really hope ASA fix these problems
I do agree with most of the things u said, but i would say Stego has alot more counters than just net. U can pick it with wyverns and crabs, kill player of with poison wyv / gas nades / rocketlaunchers, also the Mantis knocks out stegos very fast and thylas kill it very fast. I think the only thing that should be removed or nerved about stegos is the pin / bleeddamage it does.
Mana on unofficial is a nightmare capped saddles, slightly boosted melee and it kills anything in seconds which is most of the servers and yeah fjordhawk and almost everyone meshing on console was the end for me
An OG alpha homie said ever since Extinction the game became broken
All those dinos for PVP are broken AF, but those dinos for PVE are totally fine, and sometimes even useless haha
u forgot to mention with the mana how before it use to one tap you with a pounce and it even hit through paracer boxes
I agree with most of them. Tje shadowmane really just ruined openworld pvp and the mana was gamebreaking when it came out, but after the balances it is in my opinion one of the best dinos in the game.
I kinda disagree about the Fjordhawk because is too useful to not lose everything you have when you're solo or you are starting and some random dude with a lv +300 dino comes to kill you, a good HP Fjordhawk would save your loot, and in my opinion is the best dino for starting because of how many times you are going to die to wild dinos
yeah but then you get luck and kill the dude on 450 lvl dino and hit shit flys away on with 10k hp fjordhawk
Glad you made this video I hope someone from wild card sees this and removes all these creatures from pvp
I’m excited for the drop of asa cuz it’ll only be the island for awhile butttt dude new big swamp bug might make things a bit tough if anyone tames one. That’s why I do pve now lol
I think you made a mistake in the title. Shouldnt there be a that instead of the the?
thanks
The noglin is also a big problem
Noglins are avoidable
Classic servers number one.
Im going to miss my shadows
Title needs to be changed to "The Top 5 Dinos That Broke PVP
I see you woke up and chose to speak the language of facts, not many people learn it, use it wisely
i love shadowmanes more than anything
Ya I don't wanna see those dinos or tek. Except for cryopods and cryofridge
i guess they were more thinking of pve when they released shadowmanes stryders and fjordhawks since after so many yaers people dont want to spend forever farming for resources and shadowmanes are a really cool mount for pve and u know not lose ur entire inventory to falling into the lava due to lag or some goofy bugs like falling through the ground, but yeah all this stuff breaks pvp i never touched ark pve cos i feel pve is more fun but damn imagine losing someones kit after u beat them to a fjordhawk or getting ur base spammed by meks, ngl really cool stuff for pve is always broken for pvp maybe they can disable some dinos in pvp but its mightbe kinda wierd idk
Meks didn’t break the game duping is what made them broken
For mek they just need to make them weak against turret ,also you forget the last dino they had the big bee shit that is broken
Bloodstalker ?
Ok lets be real now Vin. Its ark we are talking about, the one and only snail games.
Do you honestly think everything will be good and awesome when the "new ark" comes out in a few days?
I know it, you know it and every1 els knows it will be trash, they are just in a panic atm cus they need to make money -
If they dont its bye bye ark.
Meshing, duping, EPS .... U name it, and it will be there.
Maewings also but in a good wat
1-shadow
2-voidwyv
3-Mek
4-mana
5-carcha
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Weapons
1-tekbow
2-netgun
Thyall broke the game ..
Voidwyrm isnt really that op tho it can be used to stop mek and tapy rush but shadowmane is way better in regular pvp so almost no one uses them anymore
The game was broke after extinction for PVP.
Shadowmane OP
Amen
Meks didn't break the game. So I don't think it fits the list.
It's directly linked to cheating .. duped meks ruined the game. Allowing for each tribe to have unlimited duped meks ruined the game, with zero policing.
Honestly dinos got so strong having a way to dismount people to counter or fight them off their tames was needed IMO
I understand why these are your issues. You are more pvp focused. But for the ppl that don’t have the time of day cause they have a family and work. And just want to hop on real quick to add a little more everyday. Not tryna spend the next week grinding for materials
Everyone saying this is only for pvp yeah that’s true but pvp is a part of the player base and should be taken into account aswell if not Pve should have different Dino’s to pvp lol
I hope none of theses dinos will enter ark ascended, feels pointless to grind a pvp game when its unbalanced and broken.
Would be nice for them to think about map locking dinos.
I hate how most people solely think of pvp in these lists, like ark is not solely a pvp game.
yeah my bad, i mean i hope they dont enter pvp servers, pve is fine i guess@@arron5063
Yo r dom
I always hated flyer PvP
Big Dino going chomp chomp always seemed more fun to me
Shadowmanes definitely succeed in bringing the fight back to the ground
This gam iszt udt dious it ubt tik
all 5 of these are literally useless in pvp LOL what the npc
You're the npc who plays fiber crafts
@@Tiger-eu5ur don’t think I’ve ever played a fiber craft but ok
@@Tiger-eu5ur I’m like 1000x better than you’ll ever be I mean I’m not really sure what u think ur gonna do LMFAO
Nah but you play servers who always have them banned so how you suppose to have an opinion @@yourbarber9668
bro if you want take out all the dinos what are not from island to don't broke ark right?, i see what u don't know how play ark bro, u don't know how to kill easly a fjorhawk?, come on it's the easiest thing to do on ark