Are ONI a necessary evil in the Halo universe?
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ONI have no doubt done some extremely disturbing messed up stuff in the Halo universe, as we've demonstrated in recent videos, but are these things necessary evils to keep humanity existing? Today we're gonna have a bit of a philosophical debate about the ethics and necessity of ONI for humanity's survival and prosperity in the Halo universe!
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Well... glassed planets do have bad records
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When you said Glassed Planets...
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but do glassed PEOPLE have bad records?
remember that if the human covenant war had not existed, the spartans would essentially have been used as ONI's lap dogs to crush any rebellion and ensure the UNSC's reign over anyone that defies it
ONI created Spartans purely for the purpose of stopping other humans, as they were in a civil war.
Sure, Spartans saved humanity, but ONI had no idea that the human-covenant war was gonna happen and that Spartans would be needed to save the race.
Jiraffe I felt the same till I heard about the death tolls the rebels were inflicting on innocent civvies.
High Charity was spotted even before the civil war though, and they were only funded because of the figures presented (both by the UNSC And Catherine Halsey years later) were completely unacceptable. It would either take 30 years and trillions of dollars to win the civil war, or take an indefinite amount of time and do catastrophic damage to most / all colonies. A couple hundred children and
Risk the collapse of our fragile unity... waste lives and credits and have to rebuild and renew relationships. Or 75 kids who can infiltrate better than Sam Fisher and butcher better than John Wick? I mean 75 kids out of several trillion humans? Besides those kids actually were quite happy even though they knew they were kidnapped. Nothing less than the protectors of humanity would have satisfied them in life.
Jiraffe there’s a saying, “a good king never seeks war but must always be prepared or it” (yes this was around long before Thor ragnarok) Spartans were the next technological and genetic advancement in warefare, if Halsey didn’t create them someone else would’ve. ONI is a necessary faction in order for humanity to survive and become a major power in the Orion Arm. Even seeing our world now, espionage and covert tactics are used to sabotage and cripple other countries militaries and economic standing discreetly. This is the same with the different races in halo.
That concur with that wholeheartedly. Even despite Halsey, Cortana, and Chief's forerunner backstory, super soldiers would be the next step next to a super militarized UEG and UNSC. The covenant invasion was mere coincidence given the circumstances for the Spartan projects.
This has been going on my mind for while now. About ONI being a future enemy later in the halo series.They could be building a super soldier or some top secret evil spartan program right under our noses. cause they could be testing stuff out for human evalution.Since them and halsey build the spartans after all.
ONI is not going to be an enemy. Stop it 🤦♂️
While it might seem a good strategy, screwing with your allies efforts to defeat the enemy that actually wants to kill you is going to bite in the behind sooner or later. Great video by the way.
Daphlie Lampa not if they ever find out. And the two people that could squeal are indeed dead. Telcam and mdama
I'll just say that ONI has way too much pull in the human government. Its pretty much canon that they run the UEG and UNSC.
While I'll stand by the Spartan Program being an unfortunate necessity, even without taking the Covenant War into account, I can't stand their attempts to try to genocide the Sangheilli with poisonous crops. Those who battle monsters must be careful not to become monsters themselves or far worse. Problem is that only has no problem with becoming worse than the monsters they fight.
Which makes all the Halsey hate in the Kilo-Five trilogy that much more irritating and hypocritical.
If humanity wants to prevent another human covenant war, they need to become THE major power in the Orion Arm. Keep all the other races down using covert operations is a prime way to do that. Our fleet is still recovering, we only have around 400 ships and like 50 colonies. It’s necessary for some to become monsters to fight monsters. As Leonard church said, “When faced with extinction, any alternative is preferable.”
IRL, doesn't the US have a similar thing going on with the CIA/NSA?
Can't help but think ONI is at least in some form inspired by the former mentions.
Nicholas Wong exactly. Better to covertly weaken your former enemies to avoid another war. Besides, clever shady shit is what humanity excels at compared to the covenant races.
I think ONI might be worse
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ONI seems to operate under the same philosophy as project freelancer from rvb. In the face of extinction, every alternative is preferable
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One who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
nicely said
You need a balance. Too much freedom and no security is an anarchy--too little freedom and maximum security is martial law.
A fine Murican Hey like it or not freedom always come at a cost on someone elses life. Even the freedoms we enjoy today. Its all built upon our men and women who die for us in the millitary. Everyone who is enjoying freedom right now is not because they deserve it,but because there are people making decisive sacrifices and fucked up shit in the process to do so. Like it or not.
ACOG GAMING Most of the "descisive" choices are out of paranoia and over extentiom of ones power that leads to needless sacrifice. Which is whag ONI does, which in the end will prove more fatal.
RaginDXDemon I beg your pardon? I see nothing of what you said relating to what i posted. I was talking about freedom to the OP and didnt include ONI in this.
Could you consider making a video based on the engineers and what happened to them after ODST?
Jyper this ^
Jyper They disappear along with the prophets race after halo 3
Doktor Skeletor except they are present in the 2nd battle for the ark in halo wars 2...but I wonder that myself
Sidewinder Gaming Thats only a few, when the prophets faced extinction from the elites they fled into another part of the galaxy taking most of the engineer species with them. Few are still around but thats it for the moment.
+Doktor Skeletor The UNSC has quite a few. They got a group of them from Onyx and have some others around. I don’t think there’s many after that, but I’m sure some other factions have at least 1 or 2 lying around (except for the Banished which seem to have a bunch)
Im a strong believer that ONI was necesary, especially during the human covenant war. With that much at stake, moral compasses aren't a priority. For example, had the covenant not shown up, Halsey would likely have been put in the slammer for the Spartan program. But the introduction of the Covenant made the Spartans a necesity, regardless of whether or not it was a morally good decision.
Falconeering United according to that insufferable morale inquiry of the kilo-5 trilogy, had she not used clones, her ass wouldve been covered by paragosky. Not to mention her forerunner studies...
Argument from hindsight is built on sand.
Honestly, I think George Orwell put it best:
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
How do the rough men know where to do violence without someone to tell them where to go?
Does ONI do a lot of dodgy and questionable shit? Absolutely. Would humanity have survived the war without them? Probably not. Sometimes a necessary evil is just that, necessary.
Yeah but then explain the experiment on the flood trying to genocide an entire race after the war was over kidnapping reporter and journalist and then torturing them or trying to kill the master chief oni has done more bad then actually help humanity yeah they made the spartan and they did some helpful shit in the war but this isn’t call of duty this isn’t some cia un scp type shit oni has and always cared about themselves then only good they do is when one of them go roque and actually do good or create something good oni as a whole has done Jack shit in the actual war
Oni could have tested the flood on human cells instead of using humans. Plus they could have kept the tests by using cells at a microscopic level
Killermickey or using flash clone (still creppy but the clone will die soon anyway).
The flood can't infect unicellular organisms. A central nervous system is required hence the difficulty in infecting lekgolo colonies.
anh dinh lam duc the flood can correct defects yknow... It's not like in world war z if you have cancer or something it passes you up.
Tavian Armstrong no i mean that because those clone will die anyway so it would be less immoral.
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Does ONI count as their own faction?
Yes
Ya I think so
Yes they act independently from the UNSC and UEG and even have their own equipment and ships to support their operations.
Yes and no
They are like black ops cia
When I think of ONI, I think of this phrase: Inter arma enim silent lēgēs. It is a Latin phrase meaning, "In times of war the law falls silent."
You have to remember, humanity was fighting a losing battle against an alien army ten times more advanced than what they could bring. Any advantage was taken and, though one cringes to think about it, the ONI section had to do what they had to do in order to assure humanity's survival. Hindsight is 20/20, but at the time it seemed like a necessity in order to beat the Covenant. Even the continuation of keeping the Sangheeli (sp?) Fighting each other is better than them going after humanity with a grudge.
Huh, I think of the SS, KGB and Gestapo with the kind of criminal activities they get up too
@@BattlestarZenobia No
@@Aden_III okay worse then, the CIA
@@BattlestarZenobia No such thing. They’re necessary
@@Aden_III CIA necessary? 😂😂
A lot of the points put forward in support of ONI here are flawed.
ONI's plan to weaken the Swords of Sanghelios was of no benefit to humanity, and didn't make sense. There was no campaign for reprisal among those on the Arbiter's side. We have seen no evidence for it, so there was no benefit to humanity in doing this. It made no sense and was a hindrance to humanity because it weakened the only ally humanity had against all those other factions that did want to continue hostilities in some form. In a setting where the UNSC had only one ally and several enemies, they decided to attack their only ally. In doing so, they made their own position worse as it lessened the Arbiter's ability to police and suppress these hostile remnant factions, leaving humans more exposed to attack. The effects of this were seen clearly in the cases of the colonies Oban and Cleyell.
And the number of Elites that have an axe to grind against humans is rather very small. Were it any other way, the Arbiter and his pro-peace SoS would not have found the political capital to become the dominant polity among the post-Covenant factions. Humans are an irrelevant backwater species that were only discovered 30 odd years ago, and the war was about as unpopular for the Covenant as the Vietnam war was, and has about the same legacy as the Second Invasion of Iraq. To boot, it was also against their faith and against the Covenant meta-culture of assimilation, so why on earth do you think there would be many Elites that would give a shit about humans, who are so far away that even Covenant ships take a lot of time to get there?
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The Mona Lisa testing did not necessitate human experimentation in order to find a cure. ONI had only come into contact with the Flood within the last year of the date of the Mona Lisa taking place. That's like saying that because mostly all Alzheimer's drugs have failed clinical trial in the last two decades, that we need to start strapping elderly people down and pumping their brains with random assortments of chemicals to see what does the job. With regards to the Flood, precaution and containment are the best solutions, not a cure. You can't "cure" someone who has been infected by a disease that hideously warps their body into an anatomically impossibly configuration. They are dead.
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The Spartans being beneficial to Humanity due to the Covenant attack is an argument from hindsight. When the people at ONI greenlit the program, it was to prop up a failing system of governance which was leading to societal collapse every day it continued. The Spartan program only looks beneficial if you exclude all other options for diffusing the growing problems identified by Elias Carver when he looked at the driving forces behind the Insurrection.
Voka i did read somwhere that the mona lisa experiments were ONI trying to use the flood as a bioweapon. Also even if the argument for spartans was from hindsight it still holds weight as they undeniably were what stopped both the flood and covenant.
Hindsight matters. Unintended consequences of an action or decision don't necessarily reflect the mindset or the competence of the people who took that action or decision.
What this means for the Spartans is evident in just how well they actually did - or not. Out of all Spartans ever created, only one was able to make a large enough impact to change the course of the war and even he would have failed were it not for the political machinations of the Prophet of Truth that eventually lead to the Great Schism. In other words, ONI couldn't have known about all the unlikely events that had to transpire in order for one of their Spartans to make a difference at all.
And they certainly didn't know that the Covenant were coming when they originally made the Spartan's to prop up an outdated and failing style of government.
ONI were simply lucky that the Covenant arrived in order to make the creation of the Spartan-IIs look good or competent; they were lucky that the Prophet of Truth destroyed the Covenant with his politics, in order to make the S-II's look effective in ending the war without human extinction.
I full heartedly agree with this. ONI criping the SoS, like you said humanity's only ally atm, made absolute zero sense, and in all honesty, makes me mad to even think about.
Arbiter is a rational dude so is Rtas but what will happen if someone else become the leader of the Elites? What if someone that shares Jul Vadam hatred and blindness? They can't take that risks, one Great War is enough
Problem is... if you attack your only current ally AND they hold a grudge for it? You lose that only ally and just end up in a war sooner than any projection.
It kinda reminds me of the quote from the Dracula Untold film. "Sometimes the world doesn't need a hero, sometimes what it needs is a monster". To be straight up, there is 0% chance Humanity survives the war without ONI and its tactics. Therefore they are definitely a necessary evil.
Exactly
@HiddenXperia ONI is a great example of two old sayings "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" and "power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
is there lore explicitly mentioning ONI researching a cure on the Mona Lisa? If not I honestly question their motives. I really think they'd try to weaponize the flood if they had a chance to, because there's a faction in the real world in our country that would love to weaponize some of history's most deadly diseases for the sake of grabbing power. It doesn't matter that its illegal, or that it could turn on them, they believe they'd get away with it because of the amount of power they wield.
Also, Asteroidia is NOT a grey area. The CDC would consider something like that top level threat to humanity. The period of time a disease can incubate vs the amount of time someone is contagious and can spread that disease is one of the factors that the CDC uses to determine what diseases are a threat. Asteroidia is the fictional nightmare extreme of that factor.
I use real world analogs as a stand in because it seems that in terms of things that ONI has done in the past with its research projects there are a lot of things with a real world analog. The GMO elite grain engineered to destroy their agriculture capacity is one I wrote you about in the comments of another video. But this fascination that ONI has with biowarfare is... dangerous. The Mona Lisa is not the worst case scenario, the worst case scenario is someone stealing their germ weapons, taking them to a planet in a crowded city and deliberately smashing the vial in a transit hub.
The faster the form of transit the worse the situation. And if they stole enough of the stuff it could be like a planetary version of the Tokyo Subway attacks. People don't know this but the cult responsible, Oom Shin Rikyo, had actually gotten their hands on Ebola and were planning to use that instead. But they couldn't get Ebola to readily aerosolize. So they used sarin gas instead. And yes, they had a lab with vials of Ebola in a refrigeration unit ready to use in experiments or attacks.
If the Halo equivalent of Oom Shin Rikyo got their hands on some of ONI's fucked up shit and managed to unleash it on multiple planets, especially the asteroidia, they could destroy an entire planet's worth of life, humans, aliens, doesn't matter they'd all be fucked.
Most everything ONI has done, has been in an effort to defend humanity from the covenant. And based on how close the covenant came to destroying us, I think ONI was scared, and willing to use anything to save humanity. Was it fucked up? Yes. Was it justified? Almost
It's not even a question regarding the Spartan program. Had it not been for them there would be no one to decide if it's ethical. There no price to high to save humanity.
agent nukaz I disagree. Genocide is too high. And biological weapons like flood experimentation... human experimentation can be justified but bioweapons have too much sway with Murphy's law
@@tavianarmstrong974 Genocide is not too high. I would genocide the former covenant races if possible and not shed a tear about it. They would do the same to us
@@Aden_III Ave Mankind.
When it comes to life or death, your fight or flight instincts kick in. ONI are like humanities fight instict and everything they did Is to make sure the government and humanity stays afloat. I don't think they are morally right, but they know what they are doing.
A subjective question deserves an equally subjective answer.... ONI is more than necessary, they’re one of the few pins holding up the galaxy.... keeping the more panic inducing situations and information under wraps while also making the decisions that no one wants to know about let alone make themselves (Spartans forerunners precursors/flood) thus giving the UNSC as a whole the added benefit of plausible deniability on top of everything else they have a hand in. The shady things they do are for the benefit of mankind not aliens. Though a lot of their plans do go sideways and get out of control there are plenty more that go exactly as planned leading us to wonder which plans were folly, and which were fortuitous.... love the channel (even in the drought) keep it up, and as always.....
when in doubt, blow shit up.....
most of yall seem smart, but so stupid to not even know why 343 gets so much hate...i mean its pretty obvious why.
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We get it mate they are indeed fucked up.
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ONI was made to do hard choices, because sometimes you have to break the law to uphold it, but with that much power that is with ONI, many agents abuse it, new organizations have better judgments, old ones needs to be tore down and rebuilt from the foundation, because members will secretly betray the organizations Ideals.
haven't watched the whole video but there is one of the many definitions in confusionism/taoism that goes like "small acts of evil, for the greater good. and, small acts of good, for the greater evil."
Reminds me of an article I read while doing a project on godzilla, “In America, the bomb is viewed as a necessary evil. In Japan, the bomb is evil, period.” It depends a lot more on your culture and history. If the truth about ONI was revealed, I think people on a planet like reach, while still agreeing that it was fucked, would be more willing to accept ONI as an awful means to a worthwhile goal. Someone on an outer colonial world like harvest would definitely disagree however.
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We've scene groups like this all over the place like section 31 from Star Trek, mostly Deep Space Nine.
Bet Oni is watching this right now.
My hopes for the video are already high
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There really is no line as long as humanity is kept safe you will do what ever it takes to win no matter what.
I had a lot of fun listening to this and going "yeah!! Yeah that's a good fucking point!"
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There is a lot wrong with what you said here.
1.) Humanity didn't kill billions of Elites. Elites don't even have a population that large. They have a population around a billion, but more likely within the hundreds of millions.
2.) 80% of those billions killed by the Elites were civilians. The other 20% were UNSC casualties who died defending humanity.
3.) Any Elites killed were killed in self-defense.
So in short, maybe 2% of the Elite Population was killed in the war whereas 60% of humanity was ERADICATED due to unprovoked genocide. Countless colonies destroy, countless planets made uninhabitable, and the Elites were one of the major contributers to the Covenant for over 95% of the war, only outranked by the Prophets. Not to mention they GLADLY killed humans and did so without remorse. They WANTED to drive humanity to extinction. Even when we were allies, High-ranking Elites made their hatred for mankind explicitly clear, and many desired to go right back to exterminating us after the war.
So... ONI is backed into a corner. It was like ignoring a catastrophe you know is coming. They didn't want to see people die unnecessarily, so they made the decision to CRIPPLE the Elite Population- Not exterminate them. Sure, that's a bit assholish, but it was the only option.
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." - Spock
Rant over. The hate boner people have for ONI is ridiculous. Spartans aside, do you know how fucked humanity would have been had they never existed? We wouldn't have even made through the first decade. ONI is single-handedly responsible for keeping humanity going for twenty years, and they didn't even receive a thanks. They operate in the shadows. They bloody their hands so everybody else doesn't have to. So yeah, they are a necessary evil. Only they aren't even evil really, they're probably the best humanity has to offer.
*Mic drop*
Edit: ONI is completely justified in their persecution of the Elites. If half their race weren't genocidal maniacs, ONI wouldn't have to take action.
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While I don’t have as high an opinion of ONI as you do, i agree with you. Hidden often implies that ONI was unprovoked for much of its actions despite himself listing the justifications / circumstances in which those decisions were made. The atrocities that the elites (alongside the rest of the covenant) committed were nothing less than abhorrent. While it’s BEST to put aside hatred in the long run, it is ridiculous to act as if the humans would just forget about such events.
Not all were in self defense. Two entire elite exclusive worlds happened to be utterly obliterated. One was nova bombed by grey team. The other by admiral stanforth. Or was it danforth? Either way two worlds were shattered in cold blooded ferocity
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That's still self-defense. At that time the Covenant War had already been going on for awhile. The UNSC was strategically cutting it's enemy's numbers.
LightAndDarkMdness02 what about the winter contingency on reach
But its hard to paint the Sangheili with a broad brush either, many of them respected humans to a degree and wondered why the Prophets wouldn't even consider assimilating them into the Covenant. If anything, the Prophets of Truth, Mercy, and Regret take the lion's share of the blame for conscripting their subjects in a senseless war based on a lie.
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The spartan program was a good thing that was carried out badly but had good results. Maybe try taking eligible volunteers? Then its ethical because voluntary things are also well informed.
I think ONI is like the WH:40k Inquistion: they're the assholes of the imperium/UNSC, but they're pretty nessisary....at the same time, at least ONI is written pretty consistantly.
"When in the face of extinction, any alternative is preferable." Dr. Leonard Church, The Director.
I think you mean "Is Oni a necessary evil..."
Really Good Gaming I think that both work. The title of the video is referring to ONI as a conglomerate of people rather than the department itself.
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"They had good intentions..."
Ever heard the phrase "the road to hell is paved in good intentions"?
The consequences could have been world ending.
Interesting points made, keep up the great videos
The SCP Foundation is better at their jobs then ONI will ever be.
ONI is the illuminate of Halo.
While what they do is pretty messed up, I'd have to say they're necessary
Master chief wasn't just the one guy who saved humanity countless times, he was also the guy who in a way made peace with the elites, more specifically gained and respected the arbiter to the point where arbiter would consider chief a friend, in which helped turn the tides of the war to bring down the covenant completely, and for ONI to put a false mark on chief by making him seem like he was killing innocent people makes everything more fucked. Its just amazing how chief completely ignores it all to continue protecting humanity
Oni has actually done things that saved humanity. Compared to the nsa who, save your nude snapchats.
xv7kyle7vx At least the FBI can go and get me milk if I need some 😂
And who makes those immoral snapchats then? Why, the civvies.
Oni: "We get dirty, and the world stays clean"
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That's just what the back end of a jet looks like with thermal imaging, btw.
What if one of those secret projects in the background is ONI's attempt to make cat girls.
And this is the reason the covenant glassed us.
karganor what are cat girls
Human's with cat ears and tails, it originated in Anime.
karganor or avatar.
I need horse girls like in uma musume, but cat girls aren’t so bad..... unless you try to lewd them
This channel should really be called the ONI Network
Matthew Vega or Flood Network
Dragon XL Gaming definitely Flood Network.
Section 3 ?
"Where do you draw the line?"
"We draw the line wherever we need it!"
Before Winter Contingency was declared, ONI spooks kept themselves occupied in this remote installation.
the spartan program was unethical but given the circumstances of the war against insurrectionists and the human covenant war it was necessary although it would have been better if they adults used like in the oroin project
with all these big words and adult language it seems so out of place when you put 343s games in the equation...
kail davey
The Spartan process was a success because they were children. The augmentations had to be done at puberty.
@@JustinBallard117 what are you even trying to say?
You know, you should probably try to come up with some synonyms for "fucked up" (horrible, abhorrent, frightening, etc.). I find it a bit grating to hear that phrase every 5 seconds, and I don't doubt that at least a few other people think the same thing. Good vid aside from that though. Love your stuff.
I think one thing everyone should keep in mind is, most of the shaddy stuff going on in ONI were the making of Section 3, the "special project division". Spartan, flood study, etc, most of these stuff are their doing.
Meanwhile, you have section 0, the IA of ONI, section 1, tasked with military intelligence (i think Dare was part of it), section II, the propagande division, but you also got the prowler corps, the signal corps that led the covies to a lot of false alarm, etc...
except the fact that section 0 the IA of ONI should answer to a Justice Department or something outside of ONI's jurisdiction to prevent abuses in power. this video is a good example why: th-cam.com/video/9ZmXqaIBlkY/w-d-xo.html
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ive never heard of that franchise
ONI is abousotly disturbing as hell
haloplayer 62 as is your spelling
ONI is the Halo equivalent of the CIA.
Doesn’t matter
@@Garry_Combine doesn’t matter
@@Aden_III ?
Mega g u u d
Loving your new intro
Yo that intro just got u a like. Good job on the intro damn
Not to be nitpickey, shouldn’t the title be “Is ONI a Necessary Evil”?
Also, wow this is dark. Nice video, though.
Matthew K. I was gonna say the same thing. Lol
Thanks :) I refer to ONI more as a collective, which makes it a plural and therefore 'are', but both make sense tbf. Just depends on whether you refer to them as a collective or a single body, and they're technically both so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
HiddenXperia Lol wut? You do realize your title reads “Are Office of Naval Intelligence a necessary evil?”
Really Good Gaming and do you realise what he said?
ACOG GAMING it makes no sense but whateves, not my vid
Hi
Thank you for this video it help with my upcoming machining series showing the dark side of ONI
Still in the making
Amazing elite intro. Love it
ONI did nothing wrong. And given what the Sangheili did to Humanity, ONI has been going easy if anything.
Amen.
yes they necessarily because people are dumb and need to be keep in line
jayjeet kataria Not exactly a well worded arguement, dude.
TheAKgunner English probably isn't his first language
Darth Revan Maybe. Even so, his comment sounds like something a dictator would say about his subjects.
Some people need a dictator to keep them in line. Ex the middle east.
Aka 343s fanbase...😆😆
6:05
a little coutner argument to that, yes what they did to him was terrible, but also think like this, if all the shady stuff they did got exposed, they would possibly be forced to show down, and cease opperations.
thus all the stuff they were working towards would become compromised.
Framing Chief though, that makes no sense.
At 9:48 you said that ONI knows all about the entire forerunner trilogy and that makes me wonder, primordial is told by 343GS after they found his remaines. At the end of the book he takes over the ship, so there is no way ONI knows about the things he said except if they found the ship. I wonder what that means for the future of ONI if they have the mind of Chakas.
there can be no good without the evil to balance it
I dont know why but i really like the music at the end, need to know it dude
Once again another elite executed for an intro video
Dude, the new intro is cooooool AF
Dude I love the new intro!!
Your intro makes my finger itchy to pull the melee and shoot button.
Another great vid💯
Best notification on my phone was you uploading this
Quoting Director Leonard Church : Any alternative to extinction is preferable.
Dude I cant get over how sick that intro is
I could watch your vids forever
I would like to see a book on which ONI's dirty secret of the SPARTAN ii project is finally exposed to the public by none other than a surviving flash clone, and revealing how ONI lied about Ben being a consperacy theorist, thus causing an uproar accross all human systems and the beginning of the fall of ONI.
Hey Xperia, could you possibly make a video on how ONI covered up the Retriever incident at voi?(if you don’t know, in Hunters in the Dark, the moniter of the ark sent a shit load of retrievers to earth to dismantle it, and humanity lost a shit ton of ships).
I love the new intro!!
I've got the reach special edition 360. It has the oni symbol on the side.. It's one of my favourite consoles.
Yessss love your videos
Jummy back (cue grunt birthday effect)
Have a feeling is going to be the new protagonist if there’s going to be a new trilogy. It’s like the Cerberus if the halo universe
Love the new intro!
The Mona Lisa was about creating mindless zombie soldiers they could control and possibly find a cure.
The Spartan program is the only reason the halo universe wasn’t engulfed by the flood as well. If chief was never made then the flood would’ve made it off Halo in CE
Nobody here understands that
Next vid: who is the leader/s of oni and a bit of bio on them
That new intro never gets old
Hey hidden xpidia is there any back story or information about that one white elite spec ops in sword base on the halo reach campaign? Just before you start firing rockets and you have to kill the gold elite general, downstairs from that there is a white spec ops with 2 plasma rifles. I’ve only noticed him recently and was wondering if we knew anything about him or what he was doing. Thanks keep making videos
He's just an Easter egg, I think. Like the gold Rangers in other missions.
Aren't the gold generals shipmasters?