One thing we've seen in the anime when Luffy transforms is that he releases a lot of Haki. Maybe Luffy is right now in a rougher form of his power and he needs to learn to contain his power and keep all that Haki inside. That might give him a stronger Haki and/or longer time in Gear 5.
Nah I feel like that wouldn't work, at least I don't think it fit with the idea of the fruit. Knowing the rules of the fruit would just make Luffy, you know... less free? Being bounded by something, make it expected, and hence you don't get that same level of freedom, which is the power of the fruit. Kinda like comedy, you can't force it, you can't prepare for it, you gotta let it flow naturally
Mastering THE FRUIT IS THE ONLY POWER UP LUFFY STILL DONT KNOW THE BACKGROUND AND HISTORY AND REAL POWERS OF THE FRUIT WHEN HE MASTERS THE FRUIT HE WILL BE UNSTOPABLE @@HieuLe-fi2ri
I think Luffy is stronger if he doesn't know. Because remember he doesn't want to be a hero. He just wants to be free. If he learns about Nika then he automatically becomes a hero. Luffy just wants to be free and try out what he wants to do and what he thinks about. Like "can i do that? Lets try"
@@1AverageGamer its not that luffy will not be doing heroic things if he learns about nika he just dont want to be a hero so it wont effect his power at all
One of the idea's about this is that luffy always knew he couldn't be pirate king on his own, luffy is nearing his maximum potential while everyone else would be dead weight in a fight vs the threats we are facing now. I think now the story is for the crew to come together and show how they can be as a sum instead of individual parts, I believe joyboy failed because his crew wasn't fully behind him.
The Gorosei called Luffy's Gear 5 "Nika's white form", that makes me wonder if there might be something like a "red form", there is a chapter of the anime (chapter 1091) where Luffy gets mad because the food he is seeing isn't real, and he transforms into some sort of Gear 5 form with red hair, I think that might be a clue to Luffy's new form, Nika's red form that represents Nika's anger.
I made a comment to say that Luffy will develop 3 forms of the Sungod Nika that coincide with the phases of the Sun, his first form is the dawn phase as he has just awoken, he will gain a midday form and a sunset/dusk form. And these will be a special version of the 3 versions Zoans typically gain.
13:47 personal theory, Gear 5th is the hybrid form of the awakened Nika fruit and the full transformation turns him into an even stronger version that's a Luffy of the original Nika's race, either a Giant or a Buccaneer depending on which Oda has in store as Joyboy's race. Obviously it would grant him even stronger powers, or at least enough stamina to stay in gear 5th Nika as long as he likes.
They Gorosei remind me of Mr Mxyzpltk: they're immortal, magical beings, who are unaffected by physical attacks. The Gorosei can be harmed, or slowed down, at best; but they'll just negate the damage.
@@minokawatv7236 it just makes sense. We don't have many more powerups, and Luffy has to find a way to negate Blackbeards dark dark fruit even more than the Gorosei or Blackbeard will grab Gear 5 Luffy and drain his Devil Fruit powers like he has done to others. If Luffy learns it I see Zoro learning it too, with Sanji picking up something too keeping the power trio above Jinbe. Also I subscribe to Yasopp teaching his son about advanced observation haki, or Van Augur will destroy Usopp.(but that likely means Yasopp is the only survivor of whatever Blackbeard does to Shanks crew later this year)
Not to come across like "duh" but yeah I hope so we running out of islands for them to stop off at. Unless they all learn something on Laughtale. Everyone is going to need to gain this ability because they all will be facing a different member.
I could see the full realization of the nika fruit being effectively having the unique benefits of all three fruit types, the paramecia awakening, zoan stat boost and recovery, and logia intangibility. Would be a nice inversion of Blackbeard’s multi-fruit shenanigans
I always think that Luffy had a logia fruit. As the definition of element in One Piece is not pure element, it's a substance (sand, for example). Rubber is a kind of substance for sure. So that made Luffy a Logia fruit user. If Blackbeard unable to elementalize is an exception, why can't Luffy's be too?
5:00 While it's not said outright, it's clear that their powers ar DF-based. So I'm 100% sure that their weaknesses align to standard weaknesses like Seawater/Kairoseki/Sea Salt. The last part is important since Sea Salt is known to ward off evil spirits/yokai.
This is why the Gorosei are afraid to be exposed despite all their power. They're NOT invincible. It's impossible for them to be! Otherwise, Luffy will have 0 chances of winning. The "glug-glug" thing is probably the giant trying to splash the whole island of seawater in order to expose these "immortals".
my guess for the escape is: the Secret Vegapunk will share with the world is a Live Video from Egghead where Nika fight versus Demons and the Gorosei will retreat before everyone will know theyre true apperance.
Pretty sure the reason why the Gorosei didn't go after Roger was because he didn't have the DF, with the foreshadowing from what little we have seen of Imu, I would wager Imu+Gorosei have been anticipating the return of Nika and planned to jump him at the earliest time possible (in this case, egghead, b/c luffy was confirmed to have Nika fruit in Wano). These guys are some serious rats fr fr.
People keep thinking that the Gorosei all have the ability to teleport vast distances but my theory is that its REALLY just St. Saturn’s ability to teleport people. I think each Gorosei has various abilities unique to them and I think Saturn’s is to teleport people/Gorosei.
Then how would the power to teleport people be related to him being a mutant spider unless you are saying that the power is not from his df but then why would he be the only one with that power and how
I think the best explanation for their passivity is their contempt for the races of one piece. They consider everyone not a celestial dragon to be an insect. Do you feel like an insect is ever a threat to you, your ambitions or your plans? No. They’re just bugs. When you see one and don’t kill it, you’ve granted it life at your whim and you could end that life on those same whims. The machinations of the insect don’t matter. That’s how the gorosei seem to feel about the inhabitants of the OP world.
I think they probably consider most of the Celestial Dragons insects too. Just play nice with them to keep the world order. Maybe the Celestial Dragons aren't "insects" maybe they're more like cattle or breeding stock?
I think they are just lazy and overconfident. I don't think it was a easy fight when they faced the first Joyboy. And if they have some sense, they should expect a second, third, fourth Joyboy. So, the only reason for them to stay passive, is that they beat Joyboy once, they thought they could beat him again. With that set in mind, they could just lie down and enjoy.
or they dont want everyone to know about their powers. morgans can find out everything if the gorosei take action :D if their demonic forms land in the news, that would be very bad i think for egghead, there was no other way ^^
@@Justin-oq3ng I wonder. At the world conference, Morgans News took the picture of Sabo and King Cobra. Supposedly, they should know about Imu by that movement. Why is it like nothing ever happened?
I believe that Luffy's power up will give him colors. I love the white. But it makes sense thematically if his color-based power ups could give him different attributes or abilities. Current gear 5 is a blank canvas.
Something I don’t think ppl are talking much about is how luffy has been able to conjure physical object out of nothing within his fights like the goggles against lucci and helmet to go with the baseball bat he made. Against Kaido he mainly affected his surroundings but not to the point of creating anything tangible. Just wondering if this is something that will be able to develop further.
What would be epic of vegapunk would be if the information/secret was actually spread out/ciphered in the 10 minutes of the broadcast so that now everyone has it and the gorosei have been wasting their time thinking it was at the end of it. I don’t think that’s what will happen but I liked the idea
Tbf, the durability and regeneration seems to be the only thing Warcury has over him. Each Gorosei have a unique quirk and durability's specific to the Boar as you can still see Saturn and Ju Peter still get cut/slabbed.
Tbh the real reason they’d win is because they aren’t afraid to jump tf outta someone. We can see it with literally ALL of them pulling up on Luffy after Saturn was feelin some pressure. When it’s a 1v1, always bet on Kaido, but it for sure isn’t a 1v1 fighting the gorosei 😂
Kaido can't challenge the gorosei because he's a man and the gorosei are gods. One Piece is based on greek mythology and in greek mythology, men that believe themselves the equal of the gods have become arrogant and they meet their destruction (like vegapunk. Only a god can defeat the other gods, which is why the world had to wait for nika for 800 years.
5:55 i think they knew that Roger, also like Luffy, doesn't care at all about "void century" stuff. They are just enjoying life as they travel. Freedom in life and freedom to party is all that matters to them. So they might not be concerned with Roger learning about the secret. (Clearly, didn't expect him to start the great pirate era.)
Luffys Sungod form is going to evolve over time to coincide with the 3 stages of the Suns phases, gear 5 is the sunrise form as he has just "awoken" there will be a midday form and a sunset form in the same scope as the 3 forms that zoan fruits usually have just in a slightly different manner.
I've always thought the Gorosei or Imu are immortal because of previous uses of the Ope Ope no mi which has granted them immortality. The fact that Spider-guy was ready to call a buster call on himself is proof of his confidence in his immortality.
Dorry and Brogy uses Haki at Little Garden when fending of the giant goldfish and claims that the only thing they cant cut is the giant red serpent (probably a norse myhtology reference to the World Serpent circulating the world, indicating the end of the world when it connects, the red line). In that scene they never connect their swords to the goldfish, but send out a wave of haki, which very well could be this wi-fi haki Shanks know of. It would make sense if Luffy would learn this form of Haki from the giants in Elbaf, who once learned it from their god, Nika.
Just by basing it on the previous chapters, the dynamic between the strawhats, kid pirate and law’s group is that out of the three pirate group the straw hats always come out of their predicament in good shape(not counting before time-skip). So I can see the straw hats pulling out of there just fine hinting a upcoming massive war. just don’t forget the straw hats pirate alliance group that came out of Doflamingo arc that consist of strong pirates from the new world and all the people the straw hats met will be involved. This will be a decisive battle that will conclude the war that was started 800 years ago, the clash between the world gov and all Luffy’s allies will happen. This arc is a pivotal part of the whole massive storyline, it’s only obvious because we can actually see these 5 elders put in work, instead of just them sitting around.
I have a theory That oda gonna introduce some other power system Like in Naruto we see sage mode in pain arc we any attack other then physical attack had any affect in rinnegun user but then they introduced sage art that can truly damage pain And in final arc in Naruto they use sage art significantly that only sage art attack is have any affect against true seeking orbs So i really think oda Sensei gona introduce some other Power system other than devil fruit or haki And that's the reason why they didn't think roger was a threat to world government cause he don't have that power or qualifications And that's the biggest reason why they are to Stop vegapunk and to destroy luffy cause they know if vegapunk relished the video about void century then the whole world gonna know about the Power system that can actually pose threat to world government and also luffy has qualification to learn the power system cause he is joyboy
"That oda gonna introduce some other power system" he already introduced it. Luffy is the ancient power source. Nika emanates the infinite energy of the sun. Luffy just doesn't realize that yet.
that was a really weird plot twist. Oda worked almost 3 decades on all of this in detail, only to rip it all to shreds and throwing it into the thrash just because he decided, everything before wasn´t really what he now thinks would be needed and must be removed. just a complete and sudden 180 without real explanation. the villains he created became so powerful, so Luffy needs to become a god to stand a chance against them.
I think Luffy's next stage of power evolution could very well be a more hybrid form of Gear 5 that allows him to take things a bit more serious and also use his Haki. We need to remember that up until now Luffy has not used Haki together with Gear 5 at all, every attack working is simply part of his fruit effecting the world around him and we know he isn't using observation Haki since he keeps taking hits and reacting in a cartoonish way, and as for Conquer's Haki well I put that the same as the armament in that he doesn't need it for weaker enemies since they would need to justify Gear 5 first but also since he hasn't used armament with Gear 5 then he definitely hasn't with Conquer's either.
At 16:00 this kind of backs up my theory before about laughtale being the ancient kingdom or at least having a close connection to it. If we go back and think about roger and crew laughing and saying that they were too early but also laughing because maybe it was said that they need the nika DF since it’s users heartbeat when awakened can access and power up all the ancient technology left behind. So they laughed knowing that no one on rogers crew had any DF powers let alone the one for what’s on laughtale and given that even the voice of all things told roger that someone will surpass them (which we all know is luffy). That’s what I think but I would love for you to think about it and see if it makes sense.
There could be an interesting flashback where Garp was about to leave the marine after seeing the true form of the Gorosei, but then stayed after talked down by Sengoku or somebody, reminding him of his duty.
For god's sake. Kaido was in base. And Luffy was using Ryou. Ryou as we know 'bypasses' physical durability as the damage done is internal. Warcury is in full Zoan form. And we have no idea if Luffy used Ryou when using the Red Roc. So, no, Warcury and Kaido are not comparable. Not in this case at the very least.
Nasjuro having ice abilities to me confirms that they are demons or from the underworld Brooks ice powers coming from the icy underworld confirms this for me Maybe only nika attacks hurt the elders because since they are darkness , only the power of the sun can hurt them
Um kaido was in his normal form and mercury is in his devil form its still too early to say they are stronger than Yonkos Edit :-i do believe they will be stronger than yonkos but based on the feats right now no absolutely not !!!
It makes sense tho. Kido to strong for gear 4? Make gear 5. Old guys to strong for gear 5? Gear six, master haki, Something. Luffy doesn't stay the same the next enemy is always stronger.
I have a theory about Luffy‘s power up that i haven’t seen anywhere. We all know that Zoan fruits have a will of their own and we have seen how Luffy and Lucci are influenced by their DF in their awakened forms, but what if the user is able to overtake and erase the DF will! We know that the opposite is absolutely possible, so this should be also possible. Right now Luffy in G5 is basically Nika lending him power cause their wills align and have the same goal, freedom. But it is still borrowed power, there is no way that he is using 100% of it. Only by erasing Nika‘s will from the DF he will be able to unlock 100% of it‘s potential and of course Luffy being Luffy he will call it Gear 6!
Haki is the a mysterious power that allows living beings to use their spiritual energy to develop abilities, so what if instead of Luffy having to manfiest Haki, He becomes Haki, Or a spiritual Being, Maybe Haki Is Just Spiritual energy taking physical form and The Gorsei have physical form but are spiritual being or like Astral Projection. Maybe Instead of Luffy Manfiesting Haki he Becomes the Haki or a Spiritual being.
What if the gorosei weakness is that when most of them transforms back, the immortality gimick kinda wears off and its only when they all are in their full form that they simply cannot get damage. Im thinking of a scenario like that. Wifi haki hotspot for healing other's souls could be an explanation. This is my theory.
@Ohara My theory is - HAKI works against any devil fruit and what Gorosei have is absolute monster level haki and they are even able to explode heads with just presence so even though Luffy has a literal GOD level devil fruit it can still be fought with use of HAKI so the next step should be a weapon that can nullify haki (maybe a staff, since he is inspired from Monkey king ) or a he himself becomes Sun god and no longer remains the Luffy that transforms back to human after some time. and the possibility that he becomes the god himself is by getting his memories back from 800 years ago which are stored on Laugh-tale and when other people like roger watch his memories they just laugh cause he was that good of human being with awesome life
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I think one reason the Gorosei aren't very active is because they're celestial dragons in which they'd rather leave the dirty work for the marines and cipher pol. But I think the real reason is that won't act unless they've been ordered by Imu to do so, and the only time Imu would order the Gorosei to go take care of something directly would be for something as serious as Vegapunk seeking out Luffy's protection from them aka a Yonko
I’ve thought about a potential “Gear X” for awhile now because it just makes sense, it’s a pirate anime and X marks the spot, reverse mountain where he started his grandline adventure is an X, he has an X scar on his chest, it’s been awhile since I’ve actually written about this so I don’t remember my other points but I mean it’s a possibility
What if for the goresei to teleport there has to be one of them present but the could not catch rogers because his ship had something which was given to shanks(how shanks got to marineford so fast)
I’m pretty sure that the reason that the Gorosei did not act against Roger at the time is that they probably know that only Nika can be a treat to them. And since they were more focus on finding the fruit. They let most other people do what they wanted. Unless it challenged them or the Turibito directly
10:47 it's possible in Kuma's final moments he reenacts his role at Sabaody, sending some of the straw hats to a new location, while the giants save whoever they can
Kuma might sacrifice himself to get the Straw Hats off the island. One more burst of energy to paw the ship with his daughter on board to Elbaf. Kuma gets left behind and explodes the plant that York was talking about. Would be a fitting way to end his story but also get Bonney as a Straw Hat. It would suck but I can see it being a call back to Sabaody sending the Straw Hats off again to the place they can get stronger, Elbaf.
I can't help but believe that the 5 elders can't be hurt directly and, if we are able to use 'lich' terms for them, they have a phylactery or 'core' somewhere else. Either under Imu's possession or locked away.
Back in the Sabo flashback, when he entered the Gorosei room when Cobra was being killed by them, they also transformed at will into their Yokai form, so I'm fairly sure they can transform whenever they want
I mean, I suppose the nika dance that the buccanneers/every did to worship the sun god may have had some use in preventing these demon guys from popping up.
can u make a video about what happens if sabo ace and luffy was born differently for example luffy is rogers son sabo is dragons son and ace as the nobles
I think the interpretation for the end of the chapter is that he sees something in a lab tube. Like soemthing or somone in a hydrostasis type pod (think dragon ball restoration chamber) and whatver it is, is troubling
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One thing we've seen in the anime when Luffy transforms is that he releases a lot of Haki. Maybe Luffy is right now in a rougher form of his power and he needs to learn to contain his power and keep all that Haki inside. That might give him a stronger Haki and/or longer time in Gear 5.
Id imagine his next form would be a mastered form of gear 5 like how toriyama did UI makes sense when you think about how Oda looks up to him
Luffy just need to understand he don’t eat the gomu gomu and he can control the reality but it’s probably too soon for that now
@@FnRkuit's like goku's not mastered UI at this moment for luffy
Gear 5.5 lol
I was thinking of Ichigo and his giant Zampakuto
telling luffy what his real fruit is and what he could do with his imagination could be a simple but working power up :D
Yea I think he's barely scratched the potential of gear 5 yet.
Nah I feel like that wouldn't work, at least I don't think it fit with the idea of the fruit. Knowing the rules of the fruit would just make Luffy, you know... less free? Being bounded by something, make it expected, and hence you don't get that same level of freedom, which is the power of the fruit. Kinda like comedy, you can't force it, you can't prepare for it, you gotta let it flow naturally
Mastering THE FRUIT IS THE ONLY POWER UP LUFFY STILL DONT KNOW THE BACKGROUND AND HISTORY AND REAL POWERS OF THE FRUIT WHEN HE MASTERS THE FRUIT HE WILL BE UNSTOPABLE @@HieuLe-fi2ri
I think Luffy is stronger if he doesn't know. Because remember he doesn't want to be a hero. He just wants to be free. If he learns about Nika then he automatically becomes a hero. Luffy just wants to be free and try out what he wants to do and what he thinks about. Like "can i do that? Lets try"
@@1AverageGamer its not that luffy will not be doing heroic things if he learns about nika he just dont want to be a hero so it wont effect his power at all
One of the idea's about this is that luffy always knew he couldn't be pirate king on his own, luffy is nearing his maximum potential while everyone else would be dead weight in a fight vs the threats we are facing now. I think now the story is for the crew to come together and show how they can be as a sum instead of individual parts, I believe joyboy failed because his crew wasn't fully behind him.
I like this theory because they NEED to be stronger to fight the Blackbeard pirates
luffy nearing his maximum i don't think so, Imu is still around
Joyboys crew failing him is heavily implied! Even Emeth is constantly apologising to Joyboy.
@@thechristian5425 hes at the max of his devil fruit yes. Haki potential he still has a long way to go as we saw with Joyboys haki
The Gorosei called Luffy's Gear 5 "Nika's white form", that makes me wonder if there might be something like a "red form", there is a chapter of the anime (chapter 1091) where Luffy gets mad because the food he is seeing isn't real, and he transforms into some sort of Gear 5 form with red hair, I think that might be a clue to Luffy's new form, Nika's red form that represents Nika's anger.
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I made a comment to say that Luffy will develop 3 forms of the Sungod Nika that coincide with the phases of the Sun, his first form is the dawn phase as he has just awoken, he will gain a midday form and a sunset/dusk form. And these will be a special version of the 3 versions Zoans typically gain.
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13:47 personal theory, Gear 5th is the hybrid form of the awakened Nika fruit and the full transformation turns him into an even stronger version that's a Luffy of the original Nika's race, either a Giant or a Buccaneer depending on which Oda has in store as Joyboy's race. Obviously it would grant him even stronger powers, or at least enough stamina to stay in gear 5th Nika as long as he likes.
Had the same thought and i guess, luffy will turn into a god damn giant... imagine a giant with grizzly magnum😳
I think it's more because he's fighting against 5 opponents instead of them individually being particularly strong on their own.
They Gorosei remind me of
Mr Mxyzpltk: they're immortal, magical beings, who are unaffected by physical attacks.
The Gorosei can be harmed, or slowed down, at best; but they'll just negate the damage.
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Nesjuro: "I am you luffy"
*Where you go, what you see I see*
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He was actually spot-on with the Iron Giant doing something massive to let the Strawhats escape
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I think Luffy will learn something in Elbaf which is a more advance than Ryou that will make the Gorosei unable to regenerate anymore
Shanks conquerors lightning walk?
@@Pickn4Gold i think thats it, maybe the lightning haki can prevent their regeneration just like the effect of seastone to devil fruit users
@@minokawatv7236 it just makes sense. We don't have many more powerups, and Luffy has to find a way to negate Blackbeards dark dark fruit even more than the Gorosei or Blackbeard will grab Gear 5 Luffy and drain his Devil Fruit powers like he has done to others. If Luffy learns it I see Zoro learning it too, with Sanji picking up something too keeping the power trio above Jinbe.
Also I subscribe to Yasopp teaching his son about advanced observation haki, or Van Augur will destroy Usopp.(but that likely means Yasopp is the only survivor of whatever Blackbeard does to Shanks crew later this year)
No need really easy to kill them and imu just have law remove the effects of the op op fruit used on them
Not to come across like "duh" but yeah I hope so we running out of islands for them to stop off at. Unless they all learn something on Laughtale. Everyone is going to need to gain this ability because they all will be facing a different member.
Seeing as sanji is nearest to nesjuro, I'm really hyped to see sanjis flames of hell melt away the chill of the devil himself
Sanji is the nearest of the strong Straw Hats, Iron Giant is likely closer than Luffy is to the Giants ship too.
A thought just occurred to me! What if the pirate king isn't the king of pirates but rather, the pirate who became the king?
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14:37 OMG I DIDNT KNOW LUFFY HAD A LOGIA FRUIT
I could see the full realization of the nika fruit being effectively having the unique benefits of all three fruit types, the paramecia awakening, zoan stat boost and recovery, and logia intangibility. Would be a nice inversion of Blackbeard’s multi-fruit shenanigans
I always think that Luffy had a logia fruit. As the definition of element in One Piece is not pure element, it's a substance (sand, for example). Rubber is a kind of substance for sure. So that made Luffy a Logia fruit user.
If Blackbeard unable to elementalize is an exception, why can't Luffy's be too?
10:50 who’s here after it happened?
5:00 While it's not said outright, it's clear that their powers ar DF-based. So I'm 100% sure that their weaknesses align to standard weaknesses like Seawater/Kairoseki/Sea Salt. The last part is important since Sea Salt is known to ward off evil spirits/yokai.
This is why the Gorosei are afraid to be exposed despite all their power. They're NOT invincible. It's impossible for them to be! Otherwise, Luffy will have 0 chances of winning. The "glug-glug" thing is probably the giant trying to splash the whole island of seawater in order to expose these "immortals".
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my guess for the escape is: the Secret Vegapunk will share with the world is a Live Video from Egghead where Nika fight versus Demons and the Gorosei will retreat before everyone will know theyre true apperance.
Pretty sure the reason why the Gorosei didn't go after Roger was because he didn't have the DF, with the foreshadowing from what little we have seen of Imu, I would wager Imu+Gorosei have been anticipating the return of Nika and planned to jump him at the earliest time possible (in this case, egghead, b/c luffy was confirmed to have Nika fruit in Wano). These guys are some serious rats fr fr.
People keep thinking that the Gorosei all have the ability to teleport vast distances but my theory is that its REALLY just St. Saturn’s ability to teleport people. I think each Gorosei has various abilities unique to them and I think Saturn’s is to teleport people/Gorosei.
Same
It's summoning not teleporting brings people to you while teleport more like kuma's power
Then how would the power to teleport people be related to him being a mutant spider unless you are saying that the power is not from his df but then why would he be the only one with that power and how
@@MarkRAM40582 the gorosei are not devil fruit users, they are gods.
I think the best explanation for their passivity is their contempt for the races of one piece.
They consider everyone not a celestial dragon to be an insect. Do you feel like an insect is ever a threat to you, your ambitions or your plans?
No. They’re just bugs. When you see one and don’t kill it, you’ve granted it life at your whim and you could end that life on those same whims. The machinations of the insect don’t matter.
That’s how the gorosei seem to feel about the inhabitants of the OP world.
I think they probably consider most of the Celestial Dragons insects too. Just play nice with them to keep the world order. Maybe the Celestial Dragons aren't "insects" maybe they're more like cattle or breeding stock?
I think they are just lazy and overconfident.
I don't think it was a easy fight when they faced the first Joyboy. And if they have some sense, they should expect a second, third, fourth Joyboy.
So, the only reason for them to stay passive, is that they beat Joyboy once, they thought they could beat him again. With that set in mind, they could just lie down and enjoy.
yea its like the coliseum fighters entertaining doffy trapped until they die, on a much larger scale
or they dont want everyone to know about their powers. morgans can find out everything if the gorosei take action :D if their demonic forms land in the news, that would be very bad i think
for egghead, there was no other way ^^
@@Justin-oq3ng I wonder. At the world conference, Morgans News took the picture of Sabo and King Cobra. Supposedly, they should know about Imu by that movement. Why is it like nothing ever happened?
just a new stepping stone for Zoro towards becoming the world's strongest swordsman.
I believe that Luffy's power up will give him colors. I love the white. But it makes sense thematically if his color-based power ups could give him different attributes or abilities. Current gear 5 is a blank canvas.
Gear5 is enough imo, just need to figure out the elders secret with the regen thing..
Something I don’t think ppl are talking much about is how luffy has been able to conjure physical object out of nothing within his fights like the goggles against lucci and helmet to go with the baseball bat he made. Against Kaido he mainly affected his surroundings but not to the point of creating anything tangible. Just wondering if this is something that will be able to develop further.
What would be epic of vegapunk would be if the information/secret was actually spread out/ciphered in the 10 minutes of the broadcast so that now everyone has it and the gorosei have been wasting their time thinking it was at the end of it. I don’t think that’s what will happen but I liked the idea
Plus it could use the random topic of coffee as part of the cipher or whatever
The Gorosei are primarily public figures in the world, thats probably why their powers are rarely used, and covered up when they are
Me in wano arc: “if Kaido is so strong, why can’t he just wipe out the gorosei” Me after watching 4:00 to 4:13 of this video:” Ohhhh now I see why”
Tbf, the durability and regeneration seems to be the only thing Warcury has over him. Each Gorosei have a unique quirk and durability's specific to the Boar as you can still see Saturn and Ju Peter still get cut/slabbed.
Tbh the real reason they’d win is because they aren’t afraid to jump tf outta someone. We can see it with literally ALL of them pulling up on Luffy after Saturn was feelin some pressure. When it’s a 1v1, always bet on Kaido, but it for sure isn’t a 1v1 fighting the gorosei 😂
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Kaido can't challenge the gorosei because he's a man and the gorosei are gods. One Piece is based on greek mythology and in greek mythology, men that believe themselves the equal of the gods have become arrogant and they meet their destruction (like vegapunk. Only a god can defeat the other gods, which is why the world had to wait for nika for 800 years.
5:55 i think they knew that Roger, also like Luffy, doesn't care at all about "void century" stuff. They are just enjoying life as they travel. Freedom in life and freedom to party is all that matters to them. So they might not be concerned with Roger learning about the secret. (Clearly, didn't expect him to start the great pirate era.)
0:44 Ah yes, the Pacifisat, classic
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Instead of funky tribal music during gear 5 his heart starts beating like a breakcore drummer for gear 5.2
just came home and this banger dropped!
13:48 that's the most insane looking gear 6 I have ever seen
Water luffy solos every verse fr fr
Luffys Sungod form is going to evolve over time to coincide with the 3 stages of the Suns phases, gear 5 is the sunrise form as he has just "awoken" there will be a midday form and a sunset form in the same scope as the 3 forms that zoan fruits usually have just in a slightly different manner.
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I've always thought the Gorosei or Imu are immortal because of previous uses of the Ope Ope no mi which has granted them immortality. The fact that Spider-guy was ready to call a buster call on himself is proof of his confidence in his immortality.
Luffy needa use that bajrang gattling
Dorry and Brogy uses Haki at Little Garden when fending of the giant goldfish and claims that the only thing they cant cut is the giant red serpent (probably a norse myhtology reference to the World Serpent circulating the world, indicating the end of the world when it connects, the red line). In that scene they never connect their swords to the goldfish, but send out a wave of haki, which very well could be this wi-fi haki Shanks know of. It would make sense if Luffy would learn this form of Haki from the giants in Elbaf, who once learned it from their god, Nika.
you should do "what if the Strawhats went to different place over the timeskip?" e.g., brook in amazon lily or luffy in Weatheria
Your videos always make my day when im bored!
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Keep up the great work and videos ohara love the video
Theory : The broadcast Den Den Mushi is in the lake of Ohara .
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The drums of liberation = a sign of hope and freedom = the ancient power source is hope haki.
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i loved itttt pls upload a vid on every gorosei!!
Just by basing it on the previous chapters, the dynamic between the strawhats, kid pirate and law’s group is that out of the three pirate group the straw hats always come out of their predicament in good shape(not counting before time-skip). So I can see the straw hats pulling out of there just fine hinting a upcoming massive war. just don’t forget the straw hats pirate alliance group that came out of Doflamingo arc that consist of strong pirates from the new world and all the people the straw hats met will be involved. This will be a decisive battle that will conclude the war that was started 800 years ago, the clash between the world gov and all Luffy’s allies will happen. This arc is a pivotal part of the whole massive storyline, it’s only obvious because we can actually see these 5 elders put in work, instead of just them sitting around.
12:40 probably there weakness will be a cross
And garlic
14:37 logia?????
I have a theory
That oda gonna introduce some other power system
Like in Naruto we see sage mode in pain arc we any attack other then physical attack had any affect in rinnegun user but then they introduced sage art that can truly damage pain
And in final arc in Naruto they use sage art significantly that only sage art attack is have any affect against true seeking orbs
So i really think oda Sensei gona introduce some other Power system other than devil fruit or haki
And that's the reason why they didn't think roger was a threat to world government cause he don't have that power or qualifications
And that's the biggest reason why they are to Stop vegapunk and to destroy luffy cause they know if vegapunk relished the video about void century then the whole world gonna know about the Power system that can actually pose threat to world government and also luffy has qualification to learn the power system cause he is joyboy
"That oda gonna introduce some other power system"
he already introduced it. Luffy is the ancient power source. Nika emanates the infinite energy of the sun. Luffy just doesn't realize that yet.
I think luffy’s gonna have the same Haki as joy boy and awaken it again imu or blackbleard
14:37 i cant still cant believe to the day how cool it was when we understood luffy is a logia fruit of godess gum
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that was a really weird plot twist. Oda worked almost 3 decades on all of this in detail, only to rip it all to shreds and throwing it into the thrash just because he decided, everything before wasn´t really what he now thinks would be needed and must be removed. just a complete and sudden 180 without real explanation.
the villains he created became so powerful, so Luffy needs to become a god to stand a chance against them.
is it a joke or sarcasm 😭 I think puffy was zoan type
@@Anonymous-sy5bw lol puffy heard the jewmans call him ruffy before.
I think Luffy's next stage of power evolution could very well be a more hybrid form of Gear 5 that allows him to take things a bit more serious and also use his Haki. We need to remember that up until now Luffy has not used Haki together with Gear 5 at all, every attack working is simply part of his fruit effecting the world around him and we know he isn't using observation Haki since he keeps taking hits and reacting in a cartoonish way, and as for Conquer's Haki well I put that the same as the armament in that he doesn't need it for weaker enemies since they would need to justify Gear 5 first but also since he hasn't used armament with Gear 5 then he definitely hasn't with Conquer's either.
Luffy could also just use sword style and use his inner demon with domain expansion to defeat them
At 16:00 this kind of backs up my theory before about laughtale being the ancient kingdom or at least having a close connection to it. If we go back and think about roger and crew laughing and saying that they were too early but also laughing because maybe it was said that they need the nika DF since it’s users heartbeat when awakened can access and power up all the ancient technology left behind. So they laughed knowing that no one on rogers crew had any DF powers let alone the one for what’s on laughtale and given that even the voice of all things told roger that someone will surpass them (which we all know is luffy). That’s what I think but I would love for you to think about it and see if it makes sense.
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There could be an interesting flashback where Garp was about to leave the marine after seeing the true form of the Gorosei, but then stayed after talked down by Sengoku or somebody, reminding him of his duty.
For god's sake. Kaido was in base. And Luffy was using Ryou. Ryou as we know 'bypasses' physical durability as the damage done is internal.
Warcury is in full Zoan form. And we have no idea if Luffy used Ryou when using the Red Roc.
So, no, Warcury and Kaido are not comparable. Not in this case at the very least.
Right. Exactly. It just looked like basic armament to me as well.
can you tell me any other moves that spontaneously switch haki use? if you can't come up with something Im gonna assume he used ryou.
@@thebarbelllifestyle1478: It is basic armament ryou. Just no Conq coating on it.
@@jacjac7154: Luffy's in base. Out of G5 and exhausted. And there's no black lightning to indicate Conq coating.
@@johnnk3256 so none?
Nasjuro having ice abilities to me confirms that they are demons or from the underworld
Brooks ice powers coming from the icy underworld confirms this for me
Maybe only nika attacks hurt the elders because since they are darkness , only the power of the sun can hurt them
Um kaido was in his normal form and mercury is in his devil form its still too early to say they are stronger than Yonkos
Edit :-i do believe they will be stronger than yonkos but based on the feats right now no absolutely not !!!
It makes sense tho. Kido to strong for gear 4? Make gear 5. Old guys to strong for gear 5? Gear six, master haki, Something. Luffy doesn't stay the same the next enemy is always stronger.
For now. Even G5 can't damage Topman. Topman body is definitely tougher than Kaido
Mark my words: The 5 elders will somehow merge into one being, like Power Rangers or Exodia. They may even end up as parts or limbs of imu.
I think that can happen to ko luffys gear 12 but i dont think ir would be true but its my theory that luffy could unlock gear 12
I have a theory about Luffy‘s power up that i haven’t seen anywhere. We all know that Zoan fruits have a will of their own and we have seen how Luffy and Lucci are influenced by their DF in their awakened forms, but what if the user is able to overtake and erase the DF will! We know that the opposite is absolutely possible, so this should be also possible. Right now Luffy in G5 is basically Nika lending him power cause their wills align and have the same goal, freedom. But it is still borrowed power, there is no way that he is using 100% of it. Only by erasing Nika‘s will from the DF he will be able to unlock 100% of it‘s potential and of course Luffy being Luffy he will call it Gear 6!
Gear 5 white luffy when laugh, red when angry so we can see colored difference by emotions and hope so get power up
14:39 *zoan
Haki is the a mysterious power that allows living beings to use their spiritual energy to develop abilities, so what if instead of Luffy having to manfiest Haki, He becomes Haki, Or a spiritual Being, Maybe Haki Is Just Spiritual energy taking physical form and The Gorsei have physical form but are spiritual being or like Astral Projection. Maybe Instead of Luffy Manfiesting Haki he Becomes the Haki or a Spiritual being.
What if the gorosei weakness is that when most of them transforms back, the immortality gimick kinda wears off and its only when they all are in their full form that they simply cannot get damage. Im thinking of a scenario like that. Wifi haki hotspot for healing other's souls could be an explanation. This is my theory.
it's the power of the op op fruit reason blackbeard asked law to use it on him
maybe the ancient robot can reales 800 joyboy conqurer haki aand stun all gorosa so straw hat can run
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The wings. Think Megazord in Power Rangers. There will be a way Luffy, Zoro, and Sanji combine their abilities to create something unheard of.
Don’t forget that it was base Kaido and he was also not expecting that. In other words caught off guard
Reasons. Lol this was a post wano luffy vs wano luffy, so obviously egghead luffy red roc is much stronger than the one he used in wano lol.
Don't forget. Luffy mock Hybrid Kaido for dodging his attack cause he knows it hurts
@Ohara My theory is - HAKI works against any devil fruit and what Gorosei have is absolute monster level haki and they are even able to explode heads with just presence so even though Luffy has a literal GOD level devil fruit it can still be fought with use of HAKI so the next step should be a weapon that can nullify haki (maybe a staff, since he is inspired from Monkey king ) or a he himself becomes Sun god and no longer remains the Luffy that transforms back to human after some time. and the possibility that he becomes the god himself is by getting his memories back from 800 years ago which are stored on Laugh-tale and when other people like roger watch his memories they just laugh cause he was that good of human being with awesome life
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I think that the Gorosei definitely do take care of business when they deem it necessary, its iust that we never hear about it, because, well....
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3:41 Bro used his shirt shirt fruit to generate a new shirt
Brook, Chopper and Robin gotta awaken and Franky, Brook, Robin and Chopper at the very least gotta get some armament and observation haki
How to beat the Elder.
Step 1: start researching the void century
Step 2: get one of your alter egos to defect and promise all your secrets
Step 3: get them to your island with a video threatening to release information about the void century
Step 4: bubble one of them in a trap
Step 5: hostage situation
its crazy this new power up for luffy is just the beginning so excited
I think one reason the Gorosei aren't very active is because they're celestial dragons in which they'd rather leave the dirty work for the marines and cipher pol. But I think the real reason is that won't act unless they've been ordered by Imu to do so, and the only time Imu would order the Gorosei to go take care of something directly would be for something as serious as Vegapunk seeking out Luffy's protection from them aka a Yonko
Ohh JOYBOY I wish I had been born during your time. This is quite a treasure you left behind " A Tale full of Laughs".
I’ve thought about a potential “Gear X” for awhile now because it just makes sense, it’s a pirate anime and X marks the spot, reverse mountain where he started his grandline adventure is an X, he has an X scar on his chest, it’s been awhile since I’ve actually written about this so I don’t remember my other points but I mean it’s a possibility
Gear X as in 10?
@@imamsanji maybe thought it’s more of symbolism and cause it’s better to end on X than 5 imo
When referencing Chopper's rumble fruit, you called Luffy's fruit a Logia instead of a Zoan. 14:35
What if for the goresei to teleport there has to be one of them present but the could not catch rogers because his ship had something which was given to shanks(how shanks got to marineford so fast)
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I’m pretty sure that the reason that the Gorosei did not act against Roger at the time is that they probably know that only Nika can be a treat to them. And since they were more focus on finding the fruit. They let most other people do what they wanted. Unless it challenged them or the Turibito directly
My boy O’Hara looking like he been hitting the gym and eating good 💪🏼
Red rock on base kaido vs transformed goresy if they were both in base form kaido is taking less damage
10:47 it's possible in Kuma's final moments he reenacts his role at Sabaody, sending some of the straw hats to a new location, while the giants save whoever they can
Kuma might sacrifice himself to get the Straw Hats off the island. One more burst of energy to paw the ship with his daughter on board to Elbaf. Kuma gets left behind and explodes the plant that York was talking about. Would be a fitting way to end his story but also get Bonney as a Straw Hat. It would suck but I can see it being a call back to Sabaody sending the Straw Hats off again to the place they can get stronger, Elbaf.
I can't help but believe that the 5 elders can't be hurt directly and, if we are able to use 'lich' terms for them, they have a phylactery or 'core' somewhere else. Either under Imu's possession or locked away.
Back in the Sabo flashback, when he entered the Gorosei room when Cobra was being killed by them, they also transformed at will into their Yokai form, so I'm fairly sure they can transform whenever they want
I mean, I suppose the nika dance that the buccanneers/every did to worship the sun god may have had some use in preventing these demon guys from popping up.
keep it up u work so hard to find all the information so keep it up
Love the drawings! So top notch and super clean 🫧
5:06 like Luffy, there's likely a rebound effect to them using their powers. We just haven't seen it yet
can u make a video about what happens if sabo ace and luffy was born differently for example luffy is rogers son sabo is dragons son and ace as the nobles
This is wild. Imagine what gear 6 would look like
I think the interpretation for the end of the chapter is that he sees something in a lab tube. Like soemthing or somone in a hydrostasis type pod (think dragon ball restoration chamber) and whatver it is, is troubling
Maybe luffy will master gear fifth to its full potential