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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- After the releases of Ace Combat X and X2, Bandai Namco Games wasn’t planning to slow down on the handheld releases anytime soon. They gave Access Games the go-ahead on another title, but this time around, it wouldn’t be made for the PSP like the last couple were. Nintendo’s new 3DS handheld had just recently come out, and had a little more horsepower behind it than Sony’s PSP did. So not only would the next handheld Ace Combat game be developed for the 3DS, but it wouldn’t be an original game either, with Access Games instead choosing to remake Ace Combat 2. So how would the new tech allow Access Games to improve the handheld Ace Combat titles, and how would they go about improving upon the original AC2? Well, let’s talk about it.
Full Ace Combat Series: • A First Timer's Journe...
Ace Combat: Assault Horizon Legacy, released as Ace Combat 3D: Cross Rumble (エースコンバット 3D クロスランブル, Ēsu Konbatto Surī Dī Kurosu Ranburu) in Japan, is a 2011 combat flight simulation video game developed by Access Games and published by Namco Bandai Games for the Nintendo 3DS. Despite the game's international title outside Japan, it has little relation to Ace Combat: Assault Horizon, and is instead a remake of Ace Combat 2. The original Japanese version features compatibility with the Circle Pad Pro accessory.
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I've always liked how AC3D uses an epic orchestral piece with choir as the first mission bgm. The AC series normally reserves such pieces for the important turning point or climactic missions. So, in a way, it's like they're saying that Phoenix's very first sortie in the war *is* the turning point.
That's a good point. Never thought of it that way.
You actually can zoom out the radar using up and down on the D-pad! It’s not as quick as holding a button, but by zooming out you get a better view of the map and any bonus enemies or enemy aces that show up in NG+. There’s 3 settings to the radar I think.
Also, the lore of ZOE being the prototype testing of Belka’s AI fighter program that existed to fill in the gap after the events of the Belkan War is so cool.
Fun fact: that "close quarter auto maneuver" came from the Sky Crawler (Novel turned anime movie) game. Which was made by Project Ace. Even some of the animations are exactly the same.
Love that game, hate wii controls
AC3 deserves a remake.
The Japanese version was the first to introduce the anime tropes, conspiracy plots, and futuristic tech.
It was so big, the game required 2 disc on PS1.
This. With the rise of anime in the west, only Bandai & PA themselves are holding back with this one.
I remember awhile back, kono stated that a remake of ac3 alone would be more expensive and difficult than if they tried remaking the entire holy trinity, safe to assume we'll get the trinity first if anything
@@aceofaces1506AC3 still has licensed planes they would have to shell out money for in addition to the studio who created the artwork for the rights to reuse it in a new title.
In AC7, you can hear "Fighter's honor" during MP matches, i didn't realize it until this video, I thought it was an AC5 song
Surprised you didn't mention Gravity (or its multiple names) during the Soundtrack appreciation part of the video
It was really close to getting in there! I wanted to showcase the three distinct styles and Gravity is just kind of in its own category 😅
@@notcole It deserved a mention and you know it you fraud.
@@notcole Yeah i agree cus it's a rap "restyle" of Fighter's Honour so it makes it unique, shame that you'll be skipping Infinity though since it did bring up an interesting cliffhanger
I love Gravity, and I love how it plays on a very fun level
Ah, AHL. My personal favorite Ace Combat. I’m about to go on a bit of a rant so… Also There’s a map button that zooms out the Map on the bottom screen, it’s bottom on the dpad, lol. And, if you don’t like the maneuvers, you can simply turn them off in the options, at least in the “+” versions.
Trigger Warning: Death of a Family Member
AHL was my first Ace Combat which I got for my 3DS a bit over a year ago now. During that time, my dad had redeveloped cancer… for the third time… he couldn’t fight it anymore. Playing AHL helped me get through what I’d consider the worst part of my life. My dad tried to get me into Ace Combat when 7 released, but I quit after the 7th mission. Playing AHL made me feel close to him even after he passed. And thus I will forever consider it my favorite game in the series.
Damn that's pretty sad
I’m very sorry for your loss 💔
Any plans for doing Project Wingman? Or alternatively you could take a look at "The Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces". It's an arcade flight game made by Access Games in cooperation Project Aces.
Project Wingman is basically manditory for any Ace Combat fan with a PC
@@scott2100 it's on playstation as well, the VR addon includes the base campaign.
@@ihavewaited90daystochangem51
Isn't it also on X-Box as well?
3D Cross Rumble received an enhanced port for the New 3DS in 2015 that added improved controls, camera control through the systems' second analog stick, and Nintendo themed aircraft available through ingame collectibles and the systems' added Amiibo support.
Finally time for ace combat 7, you better play dlc missions and VR missions too they are so good.
The WW2 planes were in Joint Assault, they were just behind stupid levels of requirements for unlocks. Also, you could just turn the game down if its that bad on the audio side. When I played it, it really wasn't that bad. Some not as good dub lines, maybe, but it sounded good overall. As for the OST stuff, it would have been neat to have an option to switch between them. Now, some are in the game in the bonus missions. The new stuff made for this game is good as well, but it always felt off since I associate the sound with God Eater over Ace Combat.
This is one of my favorite in the series... feature rich, deep, and engaging. Also, color customization makes it so worth cultivating your "acesona". (I'm trademarking that word if no one has already 😂)
"No, I'M the real Razgriz!"
"No I am!"
"Hey Thunderhead, this is 'Razgriz-3'"
"What did you say?"
This was my first AC game, got it for like 15 bucks in a sale back in 2015 iirc. From there I fell in love with the series and have played almost all games. I have probably beaten the main campaign at ace difficulty like 5 times or so lol, it holds a special place in my heart.
I don't have the Plus version so the controls are a bit more restrictive in the game. Yaw is on the left and right D-Pad, which is the same thumb you're using to control the plane with the Circle Pad. This makes it really hard to make any fine adjustments while still staying mobile. On the standard control scheme, I found the "shoot down the cruise missile" mission extremely hard, so I use baby mode controls specifically for that mission so I can actually track the thing. The non-Plus version does support the Circle Pad Pro thing, but that's an extra accessory that I don't have, which is why I suggest people play the Plus version if they can.
Also to chime in on the WW2 fighters. Who says Ace Combat has to only involve modern fighter jets? Even if ACES were to keep the series in Strangereal, they could still explore how air combat was when propeller planes and ballistic rockets/bullets were the best things available. A super plane could have homing missiles and a primitive rocket or jet engine.
They did this already. Twice.
Ace Combat Infinity and Sky Crawlers
You're welcome
@@o_mighty_thunder Don't have a Wii for Sky Crawlers but it looks interesting. Infinity is moot since it is literally unplayable
@@StarPilot87 It's not moot. It's the best Ace Combat Namco ever made and the memory needs to be preserved so it can come back.
Playing this on my 3DS was such an amazing time. I 100% the game and had almost 100 hours into it
Don't forget Sky Crawlers, it's worth covering. Good film also.
Very nice video as allways man! Goddam, Fighters Honor and Gravity still some of my favorite tracks for any AC game. Is next going to be AC 7 now right? Can`t wait for it! Maybe do Project Wingman next as well? Since the community already accepted it as an AC game haha
Croos Rumble's DFM isn't new. Project Aces used the same thing in Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces, which is the only time Project Aces made a game that wasnt Ace Combat.
13:05, I'm curious did you not use the down dpad? The radar screen doesn't get bigger or anything, but it shows you the whole map. Also this game has an option too to switch between all views. L + X + dpad up
I didn't 😅
Don't forget the Sky Crawlers on the Wii ;) instead of reviewing Infinity. Being made by Project Aces I guess it'll fit right in.
There’s also a Linux version. But definitely worth including Sky Crawlers!
Sky Crawlers was/is good. Absolute dog of a time to get running on Dol with any sort of stable FPS. Finally the latest beta versions (not Dev) using PAL with PAL60 mode OFF (so the game run at 50FPS) got the game truly playable and I was able to use a joystick. Glad to finally have it playable with a joystick along with the PS1, PS2 and PSP Ace Combats.
Yes I know the PS1 has twin stick that is questionable and the PS2 has joystick for AC. I have both but the PS2 don't looks the best on flat panel TVs and the PS1 stick is still questionable.
I own the New 3DS rerelease (AH Legacy Plus/Cross Rumble Pluis). It is fricken AWESOME in 3D. It's actually my favorite in the series.
I agree with the idea of using the ac2 soundtrack but man, fighters honor has a special place in my heart
Three things:
1- You actually CAN zoom out the map, on the 3DS it was the up arrow (or down arrow, one of the two, been a wile since I didn't play it).
2- This game thanks to the digital screen allowed something that can greatly save your sanity, you can manually choose which targets to lock on by simply holding your finger on it, it will make appear a little circle on the top screen that you can move around by moving your finger, any target inside that circle when you release it will be automatically selected for a lock on, making the pain of switching targets and game always picking the wrong one almost inexistant.
3- Z.O.E is canonicaly Belka secret project of IA piloted fighter, the one we shot down in Ace Combat 7 last missions, so just another shot for Belka to test on the field their projects while remaining undercover, and that's why all aircraft marked as Z.O.E don't bear any army markings, to keep it secret despite being on the side of the enemy
This was my first (proper) Ace Combat game I experienced. Next to Star Fox 64 3D and Kid Icarus Uprising, its one of my favourite 3DS games. Love all the unlocks, the missions, even don't mind the maneuvers.
I believe you missed an important detail about this game.
This game got a re-release in 2015 with the name of "Ace Combat Assault Horizon Legacy +" (or Ace Combat 3D Cross Rumble +).
The difference between the original and the + version is a fixed typo, support for the New Nintendo 3DS's added inputs and better processing on the New 3DS's improved hardware.
Not only that, it includes some special aircrafts that have skins of Nintendo characters (and PAC-MAN) that you can unlock them in some selected missions in a hidden "?" Block or you can scan an amiibo to unlock it earlier and if you do unlock it via amiibo, you will also get a secondary skin for that specific aircraft and a special cockpit that ONLY that special aircraft could use (example: to unlock in-game the Mario F-22, you have to find a hidden block in Mission 23, but if you use the Mario amiibo, not only you'll unlock it early, but you'll also get a secondary skin and a special cockpit that only the Mario F-22 could use. In this case, Mario F-22's special cockpit improves the plane's Attack Maneuver ability and increases lock-on range)
It would've been really neat for some of the Amiibo to give you actual Nintendo-exclusive planes like Starfox could've given you an Arwing, Metroid could've given you Samus' gunship, F-Zero could've given you a flying Blue Falcon or the Falcon Flyer, etc, etc...
Instead we just got some fancy Nintendo-themed skins on existing planes... but at least you could get some advanced planes early through this way.
ace combat assault horzion legcey is my fave ace combat game
mainly coz i grew up with it
so probably a personal bios
but still a great game
Still hoping that when you finish AC7, you play Project Wingman. I recently replayed 7 then played PW on its coattails, and while 7 is really good, PW is fantastic to me
I was about to flip out wondering why i didn't know the 3DS had an Ace Combat game, but when you revealed it was called Assault Horizon Legacy i'm guessing that had something to do with it, i probably avoided it due to the name (i wouldn't get around to trying AH until the PC version and finding out it was weird but pretty cool).
I managed to get a copy of this game for super cheap, seems the user didn't know he had the rare plus version.
this is one of the few games in the series that ive played the most and if you have the time i do urge you to replay the game on Ace Difficulty. while it does mean you take more damage, some missions play slightly differently with the enemy squad battles being the most notable (with the exception of Lancer squad). On top of that if you leave the Squad leader alive as the last one special dialog plays for each of them.
This was my first Ace Combat game and I've been a fan of the series ever since... I was itching for something like Starfox and in many ways, this scratched that itch I've been looking for. Also a lot of people in the comments already said a lot of their critiques I would've said about this video, so I'll refrain from repeating them here :P
This has been an entertaining series of videos as I've been curious to try out the older games but have little means to do so, and I've been extremely happy AC7 just recently got a port on the Switch, so I can get more of that AC gameplay outside of my 3DS... even if the turning isn't as quick and tight as the 3DS version, plus also no crutch of that "action button", which I learned can be turned off in the 3DS game as well so I can replay the 3DS game as I have on AC7 without overly relying on my "get out of jail free" card.
AC3D/AHL was a quite good remake, successfully being charming both for the series fans and the casual gamers on 3DS
The Maneuver stuff make the playthrough a bit easier, friendly for the casual yet the game itself is beatable without those, UNLIKE notorious DFM from AH
Also I totally adore the additional enemy ace squads, with ACZ style introductions as a cherry on top
This game was so atmospheric when you turned the 3D up to the maximum setting and plugged in some headphones. It will still give me chills whenever I play it.
The only game I wish I had Nintendo 3ds just for it. I completed it on emulator though but due to the unstable framerate it was rather an uncomfortable experience.
The frame rate is completely stable for me
@@legomania2427 glad to hear.
I haven't watched this vid yet, but before you dig into Ace Combat 7, i suggest you research into the localization because some parts of the English localization is messed up (Italian Bistros now exist,) and might hinder the writing/story of the game
And Yoko Martha Inoue is now Massa and the cutscene where Avril talks about her dad is completely incoherent. The cutscene makes it sound like he fought in the Continental War while he actually fought in the Circum-pacific war.
@@Jusuff “That pipe. What exactly are you doing with it” 🤨❓
I’m gonna be real with you, it really doesn’t matter unless you’re an extreme diehard fan who care about the lore details
@@Ikcatcher fair enough, but its a good thing to know about since 7 kind of suffers from the AC3 Export effect in terms of localization
Would be interesting to see Cross Rumble being pulled in for smartphone I bet it would be a hit!
I've also been doin a marathon of every AC game I'm able to play atm (including the OG arcade titles), and 2 is hands-down my favorite so far :D
Had no idea it was remade until now, might have to try it out sometime X33
EDIT: Damn, they didn't re-record the OG soundtrack?? That was like one of the best things about the original BIG OOF
12:38
Uhhh I think you may be wrong there
This was actually my first Ace Combat ever and I remember playing the absolute hell out of it.
But I also remember that it had that radar option. I think you have to press the "Select" button on the 3DS
I'm not certain though, because it has been YEARS since I last played this game
Hey Cole, Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces
I bought the 3ds version for 5 clams, and boy I was hooked enough to play the whole AC library
Excelent video, this and Avance are the only games in the series that i haven't played, it looks really cool, i should try it in an emulator.
actually the attack manuver and defense ne came from the Sky crawler game.
I'd give everything for them to remake Ace Combat Infinity for PC...
I need to mod my 3ds so bad this looks so so so cool!
Next up is Ace Combat 7 so only one more Ace Combat review. There's also that one Project game about Wingmen which is pretty good
Not gonna lie, this is one of the few games where the 3D felt madatory and not just like a gimmic. Not only was it cool to feel like you where looking out of an actual cockpit but being able to accuratly estimate distances made me play more boldly then I otherwise would have on a flat image.
so stoked for you to cover AC7, its really the game that brings it to modern standards. It does have some hickups IMO but its an amazing game, have played thru more than 10 times and have all the trophies XD cant wait for AC8
i would say both sounds tracks from the orginal and remake have their merits
but i think i persoanlly prefer the remake ost
+ gravity that song hits hard
For a mobile Handheld game, having short gameplay sessions is a real boon.
YES YOU COVERED MY FAVORITE ACE COMBAT GAME!
It would be good if Namco remastered all 3 on the ps1 and all 3 on the ps2.
Ace Combat: Ace collection Vol. 1 and 2??
I really wish they remade AC1 as well as 2 in this game, since AC1's conflict is just a prologue to AC2.
WW2 planes are also available in Joint Assault FYI
I love this game, and have been playing since I was 7 and just got a new 3ds to play it cause I've kept the cartridge all these years
I thought the Counter Maneuver system was heavily tweaked from the one from The Sky Crawlers.
This game was my childhood
I own every AC from 4 onwards, and I wish they made one for Vita.
NOT TRUE.
Ace Combat 04 is a "re-imagining" of 2, played in reverse. ACE 04 takes place in Erusea, which is a country that has a small break-away republic called the Twinkle Islands where ACE 2 took place and where some of the battlefields of 04 also occur.
The Z.O.E. planes were revealed to be autonomous drones in the second PS1 title and there is even a prototype Scinfaxi boss battle near the end of the game.
Moebius Strip, an unending ribbon shape that loops infinitely into itself
Phoenix, an immortal creature that births itself anew after extinguishing to old age
Both pilots flew Tomcats canonically before switching to their "boxart planes"; the SU-37 (the traditional enemy craft of the series; Gelb Team, Yellows) and the F-22 Raptor (Mobius One)
Fortress Intolerance is the final boss location of both games with ACE 04 utilizing the same tunnel flight section within Megalith to destroy the missile warheads, just as was done in Fighter's Honor (ACE 2's final mission.)
Mobius One disables "Megalith" the same way Phoenix destroyed Fortress Intolerance.
They've remade it before and even tried to subtly hint this to the players 🤭
Also; Ace Combat Infinity is a sort of "best-of" collaboration of the series' missions and settings but re-imagined for a purely multiplayer environment.
The red MiG-29 in Ace Combat 04 is likely a mercenary. Before Ace Combat Zero established that freelance pilots are a thing (confirmed with ACE 6's reference to Galm), Erusea's access to the Wyvern programme and the Z.O.E.'s role of protecting important military installations would lead one to think "MARKOS" is just a machine as this appearance in itself seems like a reference to the "Powerplay" mission, which featured a ZOE aircraft protecting the airspace.
Makes you wonder if this was intentional but it's likely that someone at Project Aces just liked R. Prowling Devil and the choice MAY be purely coincidental considering an autonomous Wyvern never appears as an enemy at any point in ACE 04. The lineage with ACE 2 makes me question why MARKOS was not set as an enemy ace in a different mission. Sorry, just geeking out lol xD
It would be cool if MARKOS was a ZOE Aggressor, considering by the end of ACE 04 the remnants of the Erusean airforce essentially do this (Battle of Megalith) after the true Yellow Squadron is mostly eradicated by the time of Emancipation and outrightly destroyed during the battle over Farbanti. Imagine a scenario where you have to find the real drone "red plane" that's the true problem causer amongst a sea of other ZOE "aggressors" flown by human pilots--that would make for a cool set piece!
* Edit: there may be more to the Lifeline mission's similarities to Powerplay but I've never read R. Prowling Devil to know; punctuation
Random thing, which would actually be more prescient for when AC7 is covered on this channel;
A certain DLC plane (that isn't an ADF(X)-series or a Wyvern for that matter) has a livery that is a direct reference to ZOE.
@@TornaitSuperBird I hated 7; which plane is it?
@@o_mighty_thunder It's the Darkstar from the Top Gun: Maverick collaboration.
That's all very interesting but it isn't what a remake is
Ah 3D, the game I wish I wish I could have bought digitally before the EShop was Shut down... Now you can only get it via an extremely expensive physical cart...
I got it through jailbreaking my New 3DS XL, though that's why I'm able to play the Plus version.
I'm getting so goddamn sick and tired of not having re-releases or remakes of either Ace combat or armored core games what the actual fuck I get it I get it that they are in licensing hell I understand but there is so much goddamn money to be made by all parties involved I don't understand what the problem is
I want Joint Assult remade!!!!!! Antarus 1 is GOAT! the soundtrack is GOAT!
I prefer the AC2 music but I also love AC2's music.
My first ace comabt I played was Ace combat X and to this day my favorite in the entire franchise.
Some time later I bought Ace combat Assault Horizon Legacy, and the truth is that I hated it at first for being a “minor” version of the console game and not having the same story.
I then played the rest of the franchise and instead loved that the 3DS game is a remake of 2 instead of an attempt to be the disastrous Ace combat Assault Horizon.
One of my biggest wishes is ti have a reedition of this game in switch.
Ngl, AC1 and 2 was kind of massively inspired by Top gun movies
I'm of a similar opinion regarding Cross Rumble. I appreciate the Usean Coup being better tied into series lore, the ace squadron fights, the Z.O.E units getting story focus, and your wingmen getting some characterization (I too grew to like Slash).
But I can't help but feel that Cross Rumble overall is inferior to AC2. Its too held back by the 3ds' limitations. The gameplay feels slower, the controls have that sluggish jank feel, and enemy encounters are reduced from AC2 to fit on the 3ds. The lore additions are nice but they are still too barebones to really get me invested like previous entries. So if it comes down to playing just for fun, fast gameplay, I'd rather play AC2.
I too wouldn't mind if Project Aces tried another AC2 remake. The potential is there. It needed more to time cook, and a better oven than the 3ds.
No Idea AC2 was remade!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
I absolutely adore this game
You know, you could at least credit the person you took the wallpaper from (that is, me) to make your thumbnail.
Oh that’s my bad man. I've gone ahead and replaced it, but if you would like me to put it back and just credit you for it let me know!
wait does that mean ac5 on ps4 was just emu?
i have a good question
would anyone play a ww2 ace combat game
and since its in a fictonial world what would be the plot of it
would it be something like the me 262 was devloped a lot earlier in the war?
it would be cool i could imagine all the aircraft would have a mix of both real and probably luftwaffe 1946 "what if planes" but possably they would make there own take on a scifi ww2 planes
such as like a spitfire with a jet engline
a p51 with more upgrades
the possablites of that would be great
Ace Combat Infinity. Sky Crawlers.
Ace Combat Infinity even had WWI fighters (Sky Kid -Blue Max- and -Red Baron-)
The piston fighters are a cute novelty but we're here for the Firing Control Systems, automated flaps, radars and missiles lol
The strongest and most customized piston fighter was outdone by any basic Lv. 1 jet, just to put into perspective how dramatic the technological leap was presented even in game. They had better machine guns than the modern jet fighters but this was marginal and niche at best.
So much so that Namco had specific tournaments just for these aircraft lol
The series has had classic warbirds in it before
@@o_mighty_thunderi didbn't even know about this game thanks
their really is something about war birds
built for fighting
but by gods given grace do planes look beutiful
I felt the game was a little mediocre, but the Fighter’s Honor Remix is among the best AC soundtracks to me.
Actually this game has 3 levels of radar screen.
I Would say ace3DS is probably THE BEST HANDHELD, but has Kinda Lame Physics
Except for X-29 and Su-47 🤷♂️
Original AC2 soundtrack way better
AC2 soundtrack... for me, that is the biggest loss in the series so far)
Too much orchestra in a clear power fantasy on planes.
Ace combat 2 has a good ost but for AHL I think the current ost fits better for the pace and well the current time frame of the game. Plus AHL has some pretty good bangers as well so the more the better!