Tales of Destiny 2, PS2 (Tales Retrospective)

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  • In this series we take a deep dive into each entry in the Tales series.
    Today we look at the forth Tales game and the first one to be made by Team Destiny. With Tales of Eternia facing stiff competition from next generation games Wolf Team would be tasked to make another 2D Tales game as quickly as possible. With fans clamouring for a 3D entry could Wolf Team possibly keep the 2D formula relevant?
    Time Stamps:
    0:56 Origin
    4:42 Story
    8:01 Presentation
    10:51 Gameplay
    14:57 Music
    17:23 Final Thoughts
    Link to my Patreon:
    / sormon
    Disclaimer:
    Certain footage shown in this video is taken from google images and TH-cam I do not own any of it nor do I claim to.

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  • @mrdarkstar3756
    @mrdarkstar3756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Stahn and Asbel did the deed. You can see Sophie in the ending scene playing with Cheria and Asbels descendant.

  • @azurestarseliph5926
    @azurestarseliph5926 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "this makes Stahn the only Tales Protagonist to go all the way with the game's Female Lead"
    >Asbel has entered the chat

    • @xenosanctum2531
      @xenosanctum2531  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In my defance I hadn't gotten to the end of Graces yet ATM.

  • @temporaryhandle802
    @temporaryhandle802 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Tales should do another game with 2d sprite work.
    The last main one I believe was Hearts. Phantasia psp if you count remakes.
    There's definitely a market for this now. 2d is a thing now, not seen as inferior (I think...)

    • @xenosanctum2531
      @xenosanctum2531  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah Narikiri Dungeon X in 2010 was the last 2D sprite made game . We did get a Phantasia port to IOS in 2011 but since then Namco has not touched the 2D entries with a 10 foot pole which is really sad.

  • @AngeVNs
    @AngeVNs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The romance is super cheesy and maybe not developed as much as I'd like, but I can't deny that story was decently fun
    You're definitely right that the game is pretty hard. I just personally don't like the SP system kind of forcing you to min max. Your party of having one physical attacker and three magic users to take advantage of the magic hit stun SP thing

  • @basman2006
    @basman2006 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the number one game i would love to see get the live a live treatment.
    How unlikely it might be

  • @xx_pit_xx8492
    @xx_pit_xx8492 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really didn't expect this one, almost no one talked about the non translated games (understandable), and I even losed hope for a translation until destiny DC and project lumina where anuced, really cool to know there are people still putting effort in them.
    But anyways, until the patch drops I can't say anything about the game other than I want to play it. So good video and I really appreciate that you toke your time to talk about the most dark entries in the series even if they won't give as much views, keep up the good work

    • @xenosanctum2531
      @xenosanctum2531  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I felt the same (hence my statements in the Origin section).
      I'm hoping that being the only one with a full in-depth English retrospective of this game I might win some extra views (especially with the fan translation out soon) but I also have to deal with search algorithms sending everyone towards Tales of Eternia videos.

    • @xx_pit_xx8492
      @xx_pit_xx8492 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank good they actually named it Eternia in Psp because it is really fun searching about any of them and getting results of the others 🗿.
      But yeah good luck with the search results

    • @xenosanctum2531
      @xenosanctum2531  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@xx_pit_xx8492 Sometimes I wonder if Eternia PSP never came Stateside because of the naming conflict. Since Destiny II never came to PAL regions we faced no such conflict thus why it was released here.
      Shame the PS2 Tales games PSP ports never came in English at all.

  • @willian4428
    @willian4428 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tales of Eternia had the dpad mashing to shorten spells time first.

  • @Pelendralaar94
    @Pelendralaar94 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I absolutely love the graphics...the PS1 and PS2 had some games with a beautiful artstyle, like Legend of Mana, SaGa Frontier, Atelier Iris, Mana Khemia, Ar Tonelico and this game...
    It would be so wonderful if they would return to this graphicstyle, I can't stand 3D that's why I can't get myself to play the newer Tales and Atelier games no matter how many good things one hears about them :(

  • @davidsparrow-m3p
    @davidsparrow-m3p 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you for your services sir

  • @tigerfog_scypher
    @tigerfog_scypher 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tales of Destiny 2 is one of my favorite Tales games and I played a lot of them. The pacing was the rock-solid compared many of the more bloated games after and the length was just perfect. Most Tales games have a weaker final arc, but I found this one to have the strongest one with a rewarding ending (and a playable epilogue).

  • @destroyerinazuma96
    @destroyerinazuma96 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some interesting hardware facts: from what I've heard, the PS2 tech specs weren't actually that great. It's still a marvel how much devs did with them. A French reviewer said that Shadow of the Colossus and FFXII pushed the console to the brink. It's also the system that handled Gran Turismo 4 with pretty high resolution for the time.

  • @kres6009
    @kres6009 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've been going through your retrospective videos and I really like that you actually talk about the specific developer team working on the game, as well as the composer(s) and main illustrator. It's those tidbits I definitely look for in a retrospective which other Tales retrospectives kinda miss lol, and it helps that you've actually gone through the JP titles too.
    I know you compiled your retrospectives into a playlist, but I was wondering if you'd maybe consider compiling them into a single video, similar to other 1+ hour retrospective videos about various media in TH-cam? Tales content like this in TH-cam is so scarce and I'd love to see that you get more traction for the effort you put since you actually know your stuff!
    I've been looking for Tales retrospectives and I could've sworn that I saw one before talking about the series history (like talking about Tale Phantasia, Wolf Team, and even the people who left the team to form tri-Ace and create Star Ocean), but I can no longer seem to find one. The videos I got to watch from you are fairly in depth without going through much of the story, and you talk about these intricate details other videos just never really delve upon, like the characteristic genre of each game. It'd be cool to see a sort of "definitive" and complete Tales series retrospective one day.

    • @kres6009
      @kres6009 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      13:00 ToD2 was my 3rd or 4th Tales game and while I never got to maximize the gameplay experience, it was still pretty fun despite how limiting SP can feel, which I partly attribute to being able to cast spells as the MC. I never played as anyone but the MC, but Destiny 2 (and Hearts R even) eased me into liking to play characters that can cast spells. I ended up playing as Judas more tho lol
      Also, those Golden Sun and Baten Kaitos catches are pretty interesting to learn lol

    • @xenosanctum2531
      @xenosanctum2531  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll have a think about the whole compilation video idea. Personally I don't like working with super long video fromats.
      As for definative reviews where I go into the who story and characters, thats too much for me. My idea with theses series is to cover all the key details of the game and my genral thoughts. I don't really want to spend 2 hours explaining each intrisic part of the story and gameplay.

    • @kres6009
      @kres6009 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xenosanctum2531 Ah no, I'm saying that your reviews are already pretty intricate and complete as they are.

  • @stage666
    @stage666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me having the unforunate fate of being born in poor China, I was very content to spend all my savings on consoles(only able to afford GBA and PSP) and play pirated Japanese titles. I finished golden sun lost age, legend of heroes 6, and this game all in japanese without understanding a word in the game. I was already extemely greatful that I even had the chance to play these games...

  • @CHMernerner
    @CHMernerner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a good opening music..

  • @sharebear421
    @sharebear421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So how would you rank the tales games you’ve played so far from best to worst?

    • @xenosanctum2531
      @xenosanctum2531  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Abyss, Rebirth, Destiny 2, Symphonia, Legendia, Eternia, Destiny, Tempest, Phantasia. I can rank the others but I want to play them again first.

  • @Zxcas
    @Zxcas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have only watched like 30 seconds of the video but damn, that price
    I paid like 5$ for each PS2 tales (except Destiny DC)... One of the few perks of living in latam i guess

    • @xenosanctum2531
      @xenosanctum2531  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are you sure they where legit copies?

    • @Zxcas
      @Zxcas 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xenosanctum2531 yeah, i have them CiB and everything, they even have promotional material for other tales games and some have like publicity for the band that made the opening
      Where i live the jp copies of games can be stupid cheap for some reason

    • @kres6009
      @kres6009 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Used legitimate copies of JP Tales games tend to go for really, really cheap honestly if you live in places that like to import retro games from Japan.

  • @goncaloferreira6429
    @goncaloferreira6429 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    stepping, defining skits, Grade.

  • @werdna2841
    @werdna2841 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i really want to play this game but I can't find the iso:(

    • @xenosanctum2531
      @xenosanctum2531  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you looking for an English one or 日本語 one?

    • @werdna2841
      @werdna2841 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xenosanctum2531 english one, its so hard to find

    • @xenosanctum2531
      @xenosanctum2531  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@werdna2841 The current English one is only a menu ptch and its really buggy. Wait for Lumia Tales to finish there copy ot just play the JP version.

    • @werdna2841
      @werdna2841 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@xenosanctum2531 not sure how to play the jp version because I love the story of tale series, and I can't read either katakana hiragana or even kanji. but I'm just gonna wait for lumia tales to finish the copy, thank you for the info pal, appreciate it

    • @xenosanctum2531
      @xenosanctum2531  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@werdna2841 What you do is use a translation guide. Its a PDF with every line in English. You then cross refrance it as yo you play. Although its prob easier to just wait.

  • @basedmek
    @basedmek ปีที่แล้ว

    Yoooo I can't help but feel hella spoiled 😅

    • @xenosanctum2531
      @xenosanctum2531  ปีที่แล้ว

      You refering to how the game spoils the end of Tales of Destiny in the operning cutscene.

    • @basedmek
      @basedmek ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xenosanctum2531 no with just how much of the story you covered for ToD2. I'm assuming much of that happens in the first hour or so?

    • @xenosanctum2531
      @xenosanctum2531  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@basedmek Of my story synopsis this is actually one of my shortest. I really only covered the first dungeons. For contex where i endded was around same point where Llyod leaves Iselia in Symphonia.

  • @GiordanDiodato
    @GiordanDiodato ปีที่แล้ว

    we can all thank Mattel for this bullshit

    • @SormonAusPol
      @SormonAusPol ปีที่แล้ว

      Tales of Etarina kepts its name for the PSP release. I think Mattel is not to balem here. Namco US's confidence in the series IS.