Meanwhile Raleigh havent used his sword for a while. In the manga, Kizaru clearly says he doesnt stand a chance against Rayleigh alone, unless he's prepared. Meanwhile Rayleigh admitted he wont win against emperor Blackbeard
Wich makes sense since Garp was training everyday before the event and Rayleigh hasnt touched his swords in over a decade before his confrontation with Kizaru.
@@LKZ405 no it dosent it says his strength is still in tact. Meaning he should be relative but below his prime self which even he admits multiple times
Sbs don't validate anything. I trust the manga. That being said. Kizaru was out after one blow. Oden got up right after taking the kamusari. Unlike kid who folded instantly. Similar to Kizaru. One blow and he's out
It sounds more like it was saying that Garp is still strong, not that he's equal to his prime self. Oda consistently goes out of his way to show us that basically nobody is immune to the effects of aging, not even the God tiers of One Piece. Prime Garp>>>> Old Garp and Prime Rayleigh>>>> Old Rayleigh.
@@Greenbull_goat old Rayleigh was able to keep Kizaru from doing anything else And he said so as well No special blade or adv haki That was why he caught 500 pirates And he did this while protecting the crew Heck he can’t solo CURRENT Ray bro, think again
@@ashlol1839 1. Kizaru really only used his sword against Rayleigh. No acceleration nor light beams. He used the one thing Rayleigh should be best at to fight him with. 2. Kizaru arguably held back because from egghead, we know it’s in kizarus character to not fully go 100% at something unless it’s his exact mission, and his exact mission wasn’t killing or capturing Rayleigh. 3. Once he saw kuma go after the straw hats instead, he also didn’t even need to overpower Rayleigh. He just had to stall him, which makes for yet another reason kizaru held back. 4. Can’t really say no acoc since makes no sense in context and Haki want even properly introduced yet. 5. Him catching 50 pirates doesn’t prove that he was going all out. It could be that he’s disappointed that he didn’t try harder to capture Rayleigh and that he wasn’t able to do it with whatever percentage of power he used. Kizaru solos both versions of Rayleigh tbh. He has no feats and no statements. His narrative scaling is also too unsupported and far fetched most of the time.
Kizaru wasn't even trying against old ray he was literally was just clashing swords
Meanwhile Raleigh havent used his sword for a while.
In the manga, Kizaru clearly says he doesnt stand a chance against Rayleigh alone, unless he's prepared. Meanwhile Rayleigh admitted he wont win against emperor Blackbeard
@gravito1573 kizaru isn't even a swordsman and was doing better than him
@@the_marvelous_onesick of these ray fanboys
Kizaru is a troll tho he trolls everyone i dont think he went all out on ray
Recent Sbs says Garp hasnt got down in power.
Wich makes sense since Garp was training everyday before the event and Rayleigh hasnt touched his swords in over a decade before his confrontation with Kizaru.
@@LKZ405 no it dosent it says his strength is still in tact. Meaning he should be relative but below his prime self which even he admits multiple times
Mistrans @@LKZ405
Sbs don't validate anything. I trust the manga. That being said. Kizaru was out after one blow. Oden got up right after taking the kamusari. Unlike kid who folded instantly. Similar to Kizaru. One blow and he's out
It sounds more like it was saying that Garp is still strong, not that he's equal to his prime self. Oda consistently goes out of his way to show us that basically nobody is immune to the effects of aging, not even the God tiers of One Piece.
Prime Garp>>>> Old Garp and Prime Rayleigh>>>> Old Rayleigh.
Kizaru low diffs prime ray
Cap as heck
@ashlol1839 tell feats from ace victim
@@Greenbull_goat old Rayleigh was able to keep Kizaru from doing anything else
And he said so as well
No special blade or adv haki
That was why he caught 500 pirates
And he did this while protecting the crew
Heck he can’t solo CURRENT Ray bro, think again
@@ashlol1839 1. Kizaru really only used his sword against Rayleigh. No acceleration nor light beams. He used the one thing Rayleigh should be best at to fight him with.
2. Kizaru arguably held back because from egghead, we know it’s in kizarus character to not fully go 100% at something unless it’s his exact mission, and his exact mission wasn’t killing or capturing Rayleigh.
3. Once he saw kuma go after the straw hats instead, he also didn’t even need to overpower Rayleigh. He just had to stall him, which makes for yet another reason kizaru held back.
4. Can’t really say no acoc since makes no sense in context and Haki want even properly introduced yet.
5. Him catching 50 pirates doesn’t prove that he was going all out. It could be that he’s disappointed that he didn’t try harder to capture Rayleigh and that he wasn’t able to do it with whatever percentage of power he used.
Kizaru solos both versions of Rayleigh tbh. He has no feats and no statements. His narrative scaling is also too unsupported and far fetched most of the time.
of course