Death By Wallpaper: The Hidden Killers In The Victorian Home | Hidden Killers | Absolute History
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- Hidden Killers of the Victorian Home: In a genuine horror story, Suzannah Lipscomb reveals the lethal products, gadgets and conveniences that lurked in every room of the Victorian home and shows how they were unmasked.
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It is really a Netflix story. It should be on Netflix.👍👍
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Imagine 100 years from now, there will be a documentary on "How Phone and Social Media Addiction led to Depressed and Early Deaths of the Millenials", I can't even imagine old pictures of us with filters lol
*dead*
Lol
Lol...thought the same when I was watching another documentary, about how future generations would talk about us and what kind of filters would describe our time..
How will we explain memes and our broken humor
OMG LMAO
"how much poison do you want?"
Victorians: "Yes"
Good one! 😹😹😹
🤣🤣🤣
More like:
“How much do you want to die?”
Victorians: “Yes”
Lol
I got this video on my recommendations after watching how Victorian kids died due to lead poison 💀
Victorian people:Let's kill children with toys to see if there smart
Other Victorian people:YES SO SMART THIS IS IDEAL
The last line what Suzannah said "It makes me wonder what we're oblivious to today" is exactly what I've been thinking throughout the whole documentary.
I wouldn't say oblivious, more hidden by greedy capitalists to ensure products continue to sell with the cheapest of materials for maximum profit.
How about during covid? Simple cheep meds like hydroxycloroquin being vilified
I think stuff like toxic fumes and global warming 100 years from now if a solution was found people would wander how did we live like this
One thing common to us now that i imagine could be quite outrageous in the future is plastic, more specifically due to microplastic everywhere
Pfas
Forever chemical
They're in nonstick pan.
I just wanted to point out that in your discussion around corsets you forgot to mention that woman wore PADS on their busts and hips to create the 'ideal shape' - in this way most people got the shape without endangering their health through tight lacing. In fact, there are many costume historians (Bernadette Banner for example) who have proved that women who tight-laced were very rare indeed.
Well she did say it was the minority that was doing it
YESSSS we need more people to understand this
She literally said "a minority of women" did it.
@@pandamandimax Minority and very rare are 2 different things. Like 1 in 10 can be a minority , while very rare has to be something less than 1 in a 1000..
I've seen that padding and corsets in person, My Great, Great Grandmother was born 1863, when she passed her Victorian era clothing was stored away and when I was a young child I was up in my Great Grandmothers attic (Born 1898) playing and looking thru the old steamer trunks- It was a like a Victorian Era museum- beautiful clothing, shoes, hair ornaments and the underthings, the padding was dry rotted though no bad but you could tell it was very old- If I knew then what it would be worth now-This was 1980-1985 time frame so the clothing would have been approx 120-130 years old.
It’s sad how I can watch stuff like this on my own but when my teachers assigns a video like this I can’t stand to watch it
SAME
Because the teachers try to control what should be your "takeaway", instead of just letting you watch something and discuss it from whatever perspective you want.
@@Whol3NothaL3v3l That's surprising. I grew up in Greece, and critical thinking was extremely encouraged. Arguing your position properly, without resolving to the use of fallacies was the key, whether or not your position was controversial.
My final religion exam had questions about abortion and euthanasia and I was furious, because I knew what the teacher (who was a priest) wanted me to say. But I didn't. I wrote my opinions and made sure my arguments were solid and walked out of that classroom ready for battle if I got a bad grade. But I ended up with a good grade, and the teacher even handed out little laminated icons of Mary and baby Jesus, with a blessing on the back, to everyone graduating that year. And even though I'm not religious, or even like organized religion, I've kept it in my wallet ever since. Because it's a nice reminder that you can just agree to disagree and still be respectful.
Anyway, my point was, if they don't encourage making up your own mind in your school system, that's really messed up. That's where repression and misplaced hatred comes from.
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@@dreamystone it really depends, I remember doing the International Baccalaureate, which even though it boasted about “thinking outside the box” and critical analysis. If you even dared to go out of their checklist criteria, you would fail.
I’m pretty glad I managed to pass it but its still pretty bad how it ruined my thought process into a more robotic and less free thinking one.
Ok but arsenic does make a very pretty green
Audrey the cat nerd a price to pay for salvation
I’d pay for a deadly dress that color
Oddly enough, the same chemical used in the wallpaper (copper (II) acetoarsenate) burns a very pretty blue color when used in pyrotechnics formulas.
@@r.awilliams9815 interesting.
@@kimwong305 The fireworks industry hasn't used it for many years, there are far less toxic alternatives now. Some amateur pyros still experiment with it, but quickly come to the same conclusion I did...it makes a nice color, but nothing that can't be duplicated with less toxic chemicals.
For a more accurate description and discussion of the effect of corsetry on the human body, I would recommend checking out Karolina Zebrowska and Bernadette Banner. Both are fashion historians and have done extensive research (with personal experience) into corsetry. Tightlacing (what has so frequently been misconstrued as "the only method of corsetry") is what we find so distressing today, but was not nearly as widespread as it is commonly made to seem
I so agree. It's ridiculous to think working women would have done anything to prevent them from earning a living.
I want to second the recommendation of Bernadette and Carolina, and add Abby Cox, who has done some excellent videos on corsets.
I legit only clicked onto this video to comment that they didn’t lmao
It is not to my knowledge,at the present time, if she made a reportage about this particular topic..however I would vividly suggest even Mina Lee
@@AndersWatches same haha. I was just checking to make sure people were breaking this myth if not, I would have had to 😂
corsetry is so much more complex and it's definitely worth looking into it through a fashion historian. It's a true art in how they are hand-stitched with whalebone to fit the curves of an individual's body, but it's often assumed that corsets were the thing to hurt people, not people tightlacing them, against the natural flow of their body. Many people talk about corsets as an oppressive commercial scheme, but the hatred and vilification of corsets was just as much about profit.
Not to mention: beauty standards for women are constantly changing, tiny waists were definitely not always the norm and the desire.
yeah honestly ive owned a couple corsets since high school and they are not necessarily the torture devices people act like they always were?? they dont fit anymore since i had a kid and i genuinely miss the back support and postural help, lmao, im top-heavy and bras simply arent enough sometimes
yeah tight-lacing is bad, but comparing all corsets to tight-lacing corsets is like comparing a sensible ankle boot with a one-inch heel to a seven-inch strappy stiletto, i feel like-- both may be unnatural to the form of the body, but one of em'll do a heck of a lot more damage than the other, and it's disingenuous to pretend otherwise
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@@starfakename9293 yes plus I like corset they help with back pain and posture they also help with stomachache sometimes I really wanna get some
@@sharonsplat Not all corsets in the Victorian era are like the ones described in this video. Some were even only a tightened piece of cloth.
Anything that is stopping your belly from expanding is unhealthy as you need bellybreathing to steady your nerves and it's how you are meant to breathe. basically unless your corset is loose it's bad for you. Any reduction in waist is going to come at the expense of a space you need. Even one of the defenders of the corset Bernadette Banner who had a medical corset still doesn't like feeling full and eats small quantities and she's railthin. Because eating in the corset would be uncomfortable. That's not healthy in the least.
It's weird how easy it is for us to go: "Haha people back then were so stupid!", when 200 years from now people will look back at our current way of living and probably come to the very same conclusions about us.
Such as: Plastic food containers; baby powder(talc); “enriched” flower; etc.
Plus, our crazy surgeries for cosmetic purposes that use silicone implants.
Daclunator I wasn’t alive in the 80s but I remember being little early 2000s and people were still pressing on save the trees use less paper then, the movement just disappeared
If we last that long
yes but people today already think the same thing! like I can guarantee almost nobody has heard of the documentary Overpriced or the upcoming documentary Antimatter Future. I rest my case lol people 200 years from now might even watch those films like historical reference, Overpriced was uploaded December 2016 and exposed the carbon tax as a scam wtf its 2020 still a media BLACKOUT Trudeau INCREASED the carbon tax during a pandemic. my upcoming film Antimatter Future has solutions as well so we can develop tech and spaceships that would otherwise be in 2300!
In college literature class we read "The Yellow Wallpaper" which told the story of a woman confined to a room due to her deteriorating mental health. It was covered with arsenic laced wallpaper. It was her demise rather than her mental health.
God, that's depressing.
This was the first thing I looked up seeing this video. I’m glad someone else thought of it too.
Wait, what? I’m seriously about to go look that up right now!
Who wrote that? I do remember reading that story.
@@missyoothoudt8243 Charlotte Perkins Gilman
Just wanna say, that not everyone wore corsets this tight. Women do used to do sports such as tennis and climbing with them on. Tight lacing was a problem though.
Also the pictures of corset waist are edited. The the Victorians were famous for doing so.
You can find a few videos on this.
Their photoshoping skills were legendary and corsets certainly werent oppression tools either because men didnt like them and made fun of them. Tight lacing (as you said) was a problem but only in the very richest who could afford a little mosr discomfort vut tight lacing certainly wasnt practised outside of a small majority and certainly not from the working class. Im glad to have found another person who knkws the truths of corsetry.
@@callmeaspen3868 Finally. Thank you
@@callmeaspen3868 there is a youtuber called karolina zebrouski (i think) who covers this.
@@Climbacliffandjumpoff karolina zebrowska*
My grandmother was born in 1893, she always wore a corset, she did have a prolapse & as an old woman she said she couldn’t stand up straight & walk about without a corset. Listening to my grandmother it may be a case that only a few women tightened their corsets to the extreme, but they certainly did wear them tight or there was no benefit to wearing them. It certainly does answer the question as to why ladies were always swooning & fainting in old novels.
“The main problem was that they didn’t understand the dangers of what they were doing”
~ Victorian period in a nutshell
Dani Stratosphere as I read this comment this exact part of the video played. 😂
Dani Stratosphere *humanity at any time period, in a nutshell.
@@Books_Makeup Yes, the environment. It's not that we get smarter so much as we just find new things to be dumb about.
@@vanyadolly Like smartphones, perhaps? :) Or maybe body-piercings (9:31)
@@kyriacrosszeria EXACTLY this.
In 500 years, instead of this, there will be a hologram showing millennials dropping their phones on their faces while in bed.
I don’t know why but fuck this is funny haha
Haha 😂
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Narrator: Not realizing the dangers, these innocent, vulnerable young people put their plugged-in smartphones beneath their pillows, only to be burned horribly when the heat from the charging battery ignited the bedding.
🤣🤣😂💀
Okay, I made myself watch the entire "killer corset" section before ROASTING THEM on spreading misinformation.
They got off to an okay start by very briefly mentioning a general function of the corset for posture, bust, and weight support, and even later specifically mention tightlacing-- which is indeed the real danger -- but they failed to mention how uncommon it was for women to tightlace regularly. They didn't mention the very small percentage of corset-wearing women that actually died from tightlacing. These extreme situations were the exception, not the rule.
They didn't stress WHY stays and corsets had been worn for centuries prior. Stays/corsets are support garments. Not only for posture, and bust support, but the primary function was to support the WEIGHT of all of those petticoats and underlayers necessary for achieving the desired silhouette. Can you imagine how uncomfortable it would've been to wear all of that weight suspended entirely on the soft flesh around your abdomen?? That would certainly result in injury without a proper support garment.
They made no mention of the bust and hip padding regularly used under corsets in order to build out the fashionable silhouette WITHOUT waist reduction. The "tiny waist" was an ILLUSION by making the other proportions bigger. The *natural* waist looks small by contrast. All of these "extreme" images depicted were DRAWINGS. Of course they're going to look impossible and cartoonish...
Since support garments like this seem foreign to us, we are inclined to view the opinions of the period through a modern lens. Corsets weren't this weird thing that was forced upon women for centuries to oppress them. To them, it was no different than the modern bra, a bust support garment. It's just underwear; you don't think it's weird because it's just a standard part of our wardrobe. Many of us know how uncomfortable it can be to wear a bra that doesn't fit correctly (because hello commercially mass-produced standard sizing). At least corsets would be custom fitted to you, and the lacing allows for adjustments with weight fluctuation that happens naturally.
Ughhh 30:01 this woman is under-researched and spouting off generalized and unspecific nonsense. It does NOT take HOURS to put on a corset. A woman could dress BY HERSELF in under 10 minutes, including all of those underlayers and yes you CAN put on shoes while wearing a corset. 😤
Finally, allow me to poke holes in their "very revealing" little study about the physiological effects of corset-wearing during physical activity.
1) They did the corset test AFTER she had already tired herself out... of course she's more tired the 2nd time around. How long was she at rest before putting on the corset and going again?
2) You do have to learn to breathe differently with a corset on, and it does take a couple hours to adapt, and learn to use different muscle groups. But even with limiting the waist expansion during the inhale, there shouldn't have been restriction to her ribcage... unless she WAS tightlaced, in which case AGAIN general corsetry is not evil, tightlacing is. She stated that she was not tightlaced, but she should not have been hyperventilating if she wasn't.
3) She kept mentioning "24 inch waist," but at no point do they mention what her natural waist measurement was... what was the difference? Waist reduction of 1-2 inches can still be comfortable, as long as the bust and hips are loose on the body (left loose intentionally for padding).
4) Since corsets are form-fitting, they are highly personal garments. As with all clothing of the period, EVERYTHING you wore was custom tailored to your body measurements. I highly doubt they had time to make the host a custom corset to her actual measurements for this show. Which explains her immediate discomfort and shortness of breath.. unless she was just dramatizing when they put it on. 🤨 "Sigh. Everyone knows corsets are just the worst thing ever."
They have lost my respect on historical topics, as they couldn't even be bothered to portray the corset correctly. Complete loss of any credibility they had before.
There are several other comments referencing other "cos-tubers" like Bernadette Banner, Abby Cox, Karolina Zebrowska, to name a few. Highly recommend educating yourself with REAL EVIDENCE, and not taking the hot garbage in this video as fact. 🥲
It's bc the mere idea of a corset offends liberals & fat women , ya Kno , jus like here in America how they're attempting to teach our kids all this fake history , oh I mean " re-imagine" hahaha I'm pretty sure u Kno exactly what I'm saying
Yes I am sure you are right But then again the clothes they were wearing were absurd If they just wore regular clothes there would be no need to have to wear corsets "but the primary function was to support the WEIGHT of all of those petticoats and under layers necessary for achieving the desired silhouette." So why wear such ridiculous clothing to begin with!!
@@lisamac8503 they weren't just going to start wearing jeans and t-shirts lol that doesn't make much sense for a few reasons, they also helped supported their bodies, people still wear girdles because they grew up with them even though people who didn't would say they're uncomfortable :)
About 21:00 - corsetry wasn’t that extreme because they padded themselves out in the hips and shoulders instead of tight lacing. They knew the danger of tight lacing and only a small percentage of women actually did it. When worn normally, nothing anatomical changed internally. Also in most cases the corset would break before the wearer because most corset construction were not created for tight lacing. They weren’t torture they were bras! And they actually helped in places such as posture because they forced a better posture and evenly distributed weight throughout the entire mid section rather than putting all weight and pressure on the shoulders and spine such as modern bras
But she wasn't tight laced. She even said so
Bras ARE torture.
To be fair, those patterns are to die for.
Applause, applause!
At least you'd go out in style.
It was worth it 😄
Noice
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"I spend hours in the morning getting into my corset"
*bernadette banner and karolina zebrowska have left the chat*
Exactly 😂 I have been wearing corsets for years, not even when I started wearing them did I take hours. 😑
Was legit going through the comments to see if anyone was gonna mention Bernadette!
I wonder what Bernadette would say about it, having her video in mind where she references the various types of coursets that existed.
I love both of them!
It was time for the fashion historians to leave, they had seen enough bs already-
Jk
Suzannah: “I feel close to fainting”
Karolina and Bernadette: excuse me, what?
This is amazing to me. I wonder how many people died from wallpaper. All these abandoned buildings and farm houses. Chateaus, castles. Explains a lot.
Back in the 1950's my grandmother warned me away from playing with an old green window blind. I doubt it was arsenic laden, but she had the knowledge passed down about green things, apparently.
Venus Angelic: The Living Doll
That’s crazy! It must’ve been a thing where people feared the colour green!
Better safe than sorry...
@@amnedits4898 Green is "unlucky" for exactly this reason (arsenic). My MIL hates anything in the house - wallpaper, paint etc. - that's green because it's "unlucky". She was born in the early 50's, so she probably has the superstition without knowing why.
@@MissPickles1980 I wonder if it's inherit. I hate green in my house
I remember being taught a fantastic Victorian nursery rhyme.
“Last night the kitchen boiler burst
And Father cursed and cursed,
But Mother, with a kinder feeling
Scraped the housemaid off the ceiling.”
Jfc
Oh my god I hate how funny I find thay
"Last night, the stove gassed all the kids,
And father cried, 'What! no pan-lids?',
But mother answered, 'Yes, indeed,'
'And now, there's five mouths less to feed.'"
Let's be honest the victorians spit mad bars
My godfather taught me that one!
I remember visiting a wax museum in Blackpool and there was an exhibition on the top floor to do with diseases and medical curiosities.
You had to be of certain age and not of a nervous person to enter, but there was a wax exhibit of a victorian lady propped upright in an open coffin with the tiniest waist you can ever imagine. A plague beside it described how tight corsets could lead to early deaths of Victorian ladies. That wax model literally haunted my dreams for years
I remember that exhibition at Madame Tussaud’s Blackpool. Was terrifying for kids!
The myth of killer corsets was created by men, who thought women’s corset fashion was terribly unattractive. Women didn’t wear corsets for men, they wore them in spite of men. As always, fashion was and is polarising and men have always had strong opinions on what women want to wear.
Remember that quote from Elizabeth Swann from the Prites of the Caribbean? "Women in London must have learned not to breathe". Didn't believe it back then but now, I'm absolutely stumped
Imagine how depressing it would be to be a 5 year old child working in a factory making toys you could never play with.
You can ask kids in Bangladesh these days
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꧁ঔৣ Eric Crites ঔৣ꧂ well it’s probably for the best since the toys caused lead poisoning
@@Living20222 agreed! But wouldnt they still die or atleast have a high risk of dying?
꧁ঔৣ Eric Crites ঔৣ꧂ absolutely! People in factories had it the worst in the Victorian days in my opinion.. them an women being thrown into the Looney hospital for having pms. Look up Radium girls.
I love this series because it’s just like, “check out how disgusting we used to be haha, they all died bruh”
@@ciciwoods4556 just like she said at the end of the video: We're probably doing a lot of unsafe things even today that'll be discovered later and made safer.
@@ciciwoods4556 That’s what I’m thinking right now 😓
I bet vaping will end up being toxic in like 20 years and a whole generation will die.
Vaping has already been deemed more dangerous than tobacco!!
@@ella_cinder4361 Natural selection then
this sometimes makes me wonder, "what if there's something similar to this in our modern world?" Say, additives in food, or maybe the products we use. What if one day in the far (or near) future, there's a video about us online, talking about it the way this video does now.
Lmao just imagine robots tlwkigm about us "Yoo these humans were stupid asf"
We have phtalates used in plastic items that are ruining male fertility today.
Estrogen-Progesterone Birth control is a class 1 carcinogen...and yet no one ever talks about waht that is doing to women or the water supply as it it released into our sewer systems.
I think a big thing is fillers/botox/implant.. Think about bbl, some women die from it but many still get it and there's still research lacking on fillers etc. Breast implant illness is also a thing but there's lack of research on it.
I think #1 will be allowing kids to have sex change surgery or hormones. I cannot believe that it is not only allowed by the AMA but actually encouraged.
Your talking about it being shocking that lead paint wasn't banned till 1970. I live in the USA I bought a house in 2008. While living there my 4 year old tested positive for lead. Turned out that all the white crown moulding in the house had lead paint. It took me over a year to find out.
Asbestos is a killer too, in homes and shelters.
My grandmother was born in 1897 in New York City. She hated corsets. Women who didn’t wear them were considered loose. My grandmother was very slender and small busted. The corset would ride up and poke her under arms which made her very uncomfortable. She told me the purpose of the corset was so if a man was so bold as to put his arm around your waist he would only feel the bone or metal stays. When her father died, her mother had died when she was very young, she was in her mid-20s. She came home from the funeral and threw all of the corsets in the trash. She switched To wearing camisoles. She lived to be 100 years old.
That's very interesting!
@Phuk yt I am flat chested and I am now retired and very lucky. I threw out all of my bras. I never wear a bra.
@@ramu-silly There is no wrong size. The corset lashed tightly to accent the waist. I.e. Scarlett O’Hara
Umm... what?
@@jeanieq6153 pf course there is wrong size. A corset is support so someone without a bust would need it less for that but it also still gave more even support for all the skirts. And the silhouette was achieved through padding not tight lacing in the middle. You would add pads to the boobs and hips which made it even more comfortable. Most women would also have larger than very flat chests from usually having quite a large amount of children. So this seems like a story of an individual who may or may not have worn the wrong corset size and or not padded correctly. Not a good representation of most women at the time.
Yeah but you see with a nice tight corset you can’t breathe in the poison in the green colored wallpaper! Get it?
😂👌
Silly me... Of course!
Kimberley Naegele ~ Of course, a nice garment that restricts my breathing will stop me from inhaling the deadly poison that I have painted my walls with!!!
Brilliant!! 😆
@B.D. Mercer I know. I was just joking Lmao 😂
If your corset is uncomfortable and so tight, its the wrong size. Corsets were generally very comfortable
I've been binge watching Absolute History for the past couple of days but this one is my favorite. Not only is it beyond interesting, but the comic visuals of the time depicting the gas explosions are darkly hilarious. Call me childish for laughing, but the one with the flying cat literally made me lol. Seriously though, we should all be appreciative of what these people went through. They experienced the worst part of "trial and error" so we can safely enjoy/use these amenities today.❤❤❤
I find the Victorian era fascinating but rather creepy at the same time.
same
That is what what niche and cliche groups are into. Many sub-cultures embrace and see it that way as well. Like all the drawings with skeleton people in the video. Goth and Steampunk specifically, draw some elements of that time frame. Its interesting. Check this out:
Steampunk Society of Nebraska. 615 Steampunks | Omaha, USA. ...
Riverside Dancing Meetup. ...
Victorian Tea Society of Orange County. ...
Victorian Fencing Society. ...
The Calgary Steampunk Assemblage. ...
Lewis Carroll Society Meetup. ...
Keepers of Goldfish Pond. ...
Central Library Athenaeum Steampunk Book Club.
I find all the past horrific!
Don’t research Victorian death photos! The poor people had no photographs of their children, so if a child died, the grief-stricken parents would take the body to the local photographer and prop them up on a sofa as if they were sitting up. There are books of these photos-called Sleeping Beauties. Some you cannot even tell the child is dead, and others are truly creepy.
And that's the dreary beauty of it.
No wonder we equate the color green with "sick".
Smart
Interesting point !!
Green is also considered unlucky in theater
I hate green unless i dont.
True did not think that
I love that they said a "Very small percentage of women would tight lace" and the entire take on corsets as a whole is "OMG THEY ARE KILLING THEMSELVES." If you wear the appropriate size and you don't lace tighter than you have to, you'll be fine.
And why should we believe you?..
@@Keralasha444 Because its backed by unbiased facts that actually delve into it? Because you can watch people live comfortably in a corset and talk about their experiences? Because you can LITERALLY look up the information yourself?
@@Keralasha444 Believe it or not, corsets were actually designed with the human body in mind, and were each made to fit the individual's body type correctly. Modern mass-produced corsets are not the same corsets Marie Antoinette or the average Victorian or Edwardian lady wore. The materials used and how they were constructed and shaped were (for the most part) designed to be comfortable enough for everyday use whilst giving women that desired figure that was popular at the time. Some corsets were designed purely for fashion's sake, which might lead to a little more discomfort. Those corsets were usually reserved for more special occasions or more specially designed dresses. Looking at it that way, it's not that different from how fashion is today.
I always found the Victorian Age fascinating; but scary as well.
Hey, I just noticed at 34:05 when I was pausing to read the newspaper article ... it says that several people suffocated from gas, but one man and his child were saved by their dog, whose scratching at the door woke the man up just in time.
Moral: Be good to animals. They might just save your life.
Maddi Silver ok maddi
Did you spot the "Heating Ipsum dolor sit amet" on the central heating diagram? 36:53
Don't know if my mom's 10 year old arthritic Labrodoodle would make a good guard dog but I'm sure he loves her.
Be always good to animals!!! Even if they don't save your life later.
@Adam Smith Ok..you said the exact same thing 2 weeks ago...🤭😅😅
"We don't want people thinking our products are bad. Who cares if there is any proof that it is killing people, Keep selling!!"
Big companies never change do they...
You guys have very warped views and lack of knowledge
WarmMilk or do the consumer that buys them....
Fearghus Keitz Sweet refutation
As long as you can afford to not have your own wallpaper who cares?
Nope.
Case and point: Let's put a lot of sugar in every product and keep selling it even if people get obese, get diabetes and die. More money for us!
Sugar is 8x more addictive than cocaine and that why we keep buying our Oreos and cheesecakes. Most of us are sugar addicts. I wonder when people we finally open their eyes.
00:46:15 Hey, just to let you know. The drawing is actually of a 23 year old Viennese woman, before and after getting sick from cholera in 1831. The drawing is in a book called The Sick Rose by Richard Barnett, which is a really cool book filled with drawings of diseases. Ifv you like to learn about historic medicine I would defiantly recommend it. Not trying to be rude just wanted to be helpful.
Stacy, ansr me
I've watched these a hundred times and I still find them interesting! I just adore the narrator.
There’s a difference between “wearing a corset” and “tight lacing a corset”
Thank you! This is not mentioned enough. If you tight laced a corset, you were showing off for a formal occasion. Besides, women wore corsets day in, and day out, for centuries with minimal complaints. There are also people today that wear corsets rather constantly and find them completely comfortable.
I've been looking for someone mentioning this. I always cringe a little when people start talking about corsets because they seldom discuss them as how they were actually worn... Only about tightlacing and how they were "torture devices" when they were nothing of the sort when worn properly...
Everything in this comment chain was, in fact, mentioned.
@@Mia-ln1zs from my viewing of that segment one person mentioned these things which is good, but the rest of the people focused on the negative and shocking aspects of it and (to me anyway) made it seem as if it was more common
@Jenavieve Hottenstein I wouldn't defend corsets by comparing them to high heels - high heels are awful for your feet. The more you wear them, and the more you weigh (you don't have to be fat, just tall instead of petite), and the higher they are, the worse they are for you. Generations of women have destroyed their feet with high heels and otherwise inappropriate footwear. Hallux valgus is an example of what comes of wearing bad shoes for most of your life. To not mention the joint and back problems.
I think heels are really pretty too, and I used to wear them a lot, but I'm choosing flat, roomy and comfortable these days. Room to stretch out and wiggle your toes, good arch support, good shock absorption.
That said, I think corsets - when laced only tight enough to lift your boobs and gently hug your middle, which is to say: comfortably - would probably have been quite good for your back. Good support, and constant posture corrector. But of course people wouldn't have left it at that.
"is it safe for you to touch?"
"probably not" continues to flip through book
Lol Victorians just find so many ways to die
There are two kinds of scientists. Those who worship safety as a religion and those who only uses it when most necessary. The guy with that book and I are of the last kind
Lol
No wonder they all are dead.
king james488 and breath in. Oh I’ll wash my hands after this. Don’t think that’s how it works, doesn’t it come in through the skin? That’s what she said. Well, it is
You’ve done a great job with these videos thanks for sharing !!
"It makes me wonder what we're oblivious to today" - great final words.
"the colour yellow and red is associated with barbaric countries.." Victorians throwing shade at China and India like nobody's business..LOL
And "yellowish red" (aka orange) throwing shade at the Dutch there, with their royal house being the House of Orange.
Spain.
@@Luubelaar the Victorians didn't like the Dutch? I wasn't aware of that tbh..😂
@@nataliaalfonso2662 yeah I thought they meant China and India because these two countries were pretty much colonised by England and the Victorians think that these countries are barbaric because of the cultural differences..but I guess Spain works too simply because Spain has kicked England's ass a few times and the Victorians are being sore losers about it..😂😂
I’ve never seen blatant racism re-contextualized as “throwing shade” before
Seeing things like this just confuse me on how we managed to survive this long 😂
Imagine the deadly piercings of this era!
of all places to find you why are you on the history side of youtube. love your videos man
I was just thinking the very same thing 🤣🤣🤣
Human invention
I mean... yeah. Yeah...
I guess that green was truly to die for
I lost my family, mother, father, and brother. I wear jewelry with their ashes every day. Clearly, I know they are not physically with me. But, it does make me somehow feel close to them. I don’t think some of these things are that odd at all. It’s hard to lose someone you love. No reason to judge anybody for what they need to do to get through such a difficult journey.
Well at least now we know Victoria's secret.
God that was bad
😄
I guess multiple deaths is quite a secret to keep
Lol
uuhuuahuuaaaahh
Your toilet leaks methane.
Your radiator explodes
Your led based toys
Arsenic in the walls
Borax in your milk and bread.
Asbestos insulation.
What a great era
Edit: 5 thousand likes oh my god you people are legends ilysm ❤❤❤
Don't forget plaster of paris in bread.
@@PallabDutt cheers mate.
Small Stairs
Honestly, the corsets were the least awful part- sure if you tightlaced you were immediately impacting your health, but worn 'correctly' they functioned like bras with back support. Of course, this meant abdominal muscles went severely undeveloped, making it hard to stand upright without a corset if one had become too accustomed to them.
I’m amazed anyone survived
I came to the conclusion that the only reason why anyone survived the Victorian era is because they were poor and couldn’t afford all the fancy things that killed people
This is actually my conclusion too
Ah yes
Good point The rather choose to poverty Then, is extensional life, literally certainly in Victorian Britain
"24 inches!"
"24 and three quarters"
WELL DAMN GIRL OKAY THEN 😂😂
Something they helpfully leave out is that the small waist illusion was mostly achieved by padding the hips and bust
Yes! I was waiting for someone to mention a bum roll or some sort of other padding.
Yea like corsets weren't the only undergarments they wore. As someone who wears a corset on occasion, they really aren't bad, I find them comfortable, they support me better than a bra
And photo shop lol
@@madisongreen8913 did the Victorians have Photoshop? I mean they had exaggerated illustrative adverts but not computers haha
@@kitsunecookie372 They used paint. They quite literally painted over their photos to fake a tiny waist. If you google Victorian photos, you can sometimes see the editing around the waist.
"There will be a huge explosion and you'll be leaving the building without opening the door!" 🤣🤣 his sense of humor is gold.
Now That's funny
Old news. The color was popularly known as Paris Green. Metallic oxides were a popular source of bright colors. They
were used in textiles
and laundering wasn't
particularly thorough.
@@janicelmckee what
Ha! I read this comment literally while he said it lol too funny tho 😂 👍
@@janicelmckee of course it's "old news" it's HISTORY.....🙄
I live in the USA, lead paint was removed from oil based paint only a few short years ago.. now 2023, my husband is a painter. My nephew was poisoned as a baby in the 90's, he recovered.. but had symptoms for years..I can't imagine him being any more smarter then he is now😊
Wow these documentaries are great!
The image of that liver with the ridges in it is burned into my memory forever. Absolutely sickening.
right, insane
Thanks for the warning. I am extremely squeamish about that sort of thing.
When is it?
@@fitzgeraldsinclair5354 watch and find out
I find it fascinating.
37:20 "You could be tucking into your turtle soup and the next thing there's a huge explosion and you could be leaving the building without opening the door" DRAMATIC MUSIC
Beware of Latent Turtle Vengeance
I just want to learn more about the pigeon story at 37:52
Thanks guy's those time stamps actually work..
i actually texted 2 friends this exact quote when they said it lol fabulous description! :D
🤣
This is the kind of video that makes you relieved that you’re living today.
In the early 1960s we decorated a dear little room for our upcoming baby. I had chosen a very pale gray with pink roses paper for the walls. When my little girl could stand in her cot, at about 10 months, she would amuse herself for a few moments by licking the wallpaper to wet it then scratch it off. When I saw this I moved the cot out a couple of feet. Imagine if there had been arsenic in that paper. She is nearly 60 now and a doctor. I have never told her this because I had forgotten. Those poor Victorians. But I do love William Morris fabrics nothing to do with showing off. I just love his colours and patterns. Couldn’t the Victorians have felt the same ? I think your judgment maybe a little harsh.
"Benefits of a warm cozy home ment that most were willing to risk the consequences" - Victorian for we here for a good time, not a long time y'all
Ellyanna Davey no it meant they didn't know that the arsenic was killing them.... once they understood it's danger they stopped buyimg it forcing manufactures to make arsenic free wallpaper tf
@@sueb6662 its called a joke
In public they were very tightly laced (excuse the modern pun), but in the dark corners they were very hedonistic.
@@sueb6662 it's a joke
I think it's a bad time if you're dying a painful slow death from any number of poisons and infections. So, a short and bad time.
"Killer Corsets"
**Bernadette Banner has left the chat - in disgust**
I really want her to react to this video but I know that she would just be so annoyed.
Me too, corsets for common people were practical for support (as they said, they predated bras). I myself have worn corsets (especially after surgeries that weakened my back and stomach) for support, I have a horrible tendency to slouch when I spend countless hours sitting down doing my work. The corset just helps me sit straight, as it probably did for most of the working class. A very small group tightlaced, which is why you see the media demonize all corsets as this oppressive item when it was really just the best they had at the time before the brassiere was invented.
Bernadette: *Sips tea whilst scowling furiously at her computer screen*
They made me sit thru green arsenic before watching the corsetbashing. I cry foul
😂
... mercury as well makes the hatter a mad one.
Yep, in 100 years, they won't believe that many of us willingly had Mercury fillings put into our heads 😅
it feels like im watching a documentary, I love it
I can't imagine how families dealt with the deaths in this era.
"Oh Mummy, I heard Grandmother died! Was it the borax in her milk or her radiator exploding?"
"No love, it was the arsenic in those emerald green walls of hers".
"Ah, just the way Grandfather died".
deaths were like sneezing...the infant mortality rate was horrendous...ffs they still sent small children to climb up the inside of chimneys to clean them
@@magumba1000 lost another one. God bless 'em. Anyway - who's hungry?
@@ChubbyTeletubby and I play this skit in my head just perfectly.....lol
@ Snail Queen.... She was heating her milk up on the stove n the stove exploded!! She never had a chance to drink her milk b4 going to bed....
@Tom Meadows ah ha haha!
why the hell weren’t they wearing gloves while handling the book full of poison?
And when they check her airflow and heart rate with and without a corset, the exercise they go for is walking up and down a steep stairwell for several minutes. At the end of the corset section she says she felt close to fainting. That could have gone HORRIBLY
As Bernadette Banner said in one of her videos they where few women that did tight-lacing as a way for fashion. It was mostly few of the high class women, but the corsets was just to straight their back and support their bust like today’s bra. The way to achieve a small waist is by padding the bust and the hips or waist.
I definitely wouldn't touch it, as it can be absorbed through the skin. Maybe he knew which parts in the book did not contain it??? There are also different types. I believe "elemental" is less toxic. It can be also be disturbed/airbourne and affect the respiratory system, particularly if the arsenic becomes damp or moldy... can mix with the water droplets and mold spores. When I was on a ghost tour in Edinburgh, we stopped outside an old ally/ enclosure place that was behind a locked gate with original arsenic paint inside. We weren't allowed to go within there at the time because it was raining and the guide said it becomes dangerous in the rain. I wouldn't want to even be a little close to an arsenic book ahahah
They never watched "The name of the Rose" ?
Tryna be edgy.
Lol.
That's really interesting, in my coloring in, I've been using felt pens, with metallic art pens and metallic gel pens to recreate the same asthenic as the brightly colored wallpapers they were showing.
How sad! They designed such beautiful items with amazing style. What a tragedy that many items were unsafe!
That old lady's a Savage 😂😂
Reporter: "I can see why they would wear corsets, my waistline is only 24 inches!!!"
Old lady: *clears throat* "24 and three quarters" 😂😂😂😂
*Don't you just **_love_** people with dry, blunt personalities?*
@@Griselda_Puppy no
@@Griselda_Puppy Do you mean someone telling someone their waist has been compressed 3/4 of an inch less than they thought, or someone calling a fourty-something "old lady"?
how is correcting someone being a savage? 🤨🤨
@@lynxsyn9003 idk
No wonder infant mortality rate was so high. The real wonder is how anyone, at least anyone in England, survived to adulthood.
Maybe the poor couldn’t afford the new and unknowingly poisoning stuff:
Adulthood.... what's that? We're all children over here.
They were breeding faster than the death rate !
Also explains how susceptible to plagues they often were. Dayum, maybe they wouldn't have ad to deal with one every few years if they weren't so unbelievably careless lol
@@NomadTheProtogen huh I guess that made the poor lucky in a way.....
And history repeats itself over and over, “heartless industrialists” for example the chemicals that used to be used to make Teflon products and the DuPont disaster
I absolutely love these docs !! Thank you
My favourite meme will forever be "Being an old timey doctor would rule, being drunk as hell like; "You've got ghosts in your blood, you should do cocaine about it".
Mister Garfield
Ghost: “yes! YES! I’ve been in withdrawal for eons... my spirit can finally be at peace...” 420 blaze-its out of there
Ghosts get hooked on coke and won't leave.
MG Not if they r the ghosts of users.
So did it get rid the ghosts? 🤣
Thats an all time favorite of mine!!! Itll never not be funny!!😂😂😂
the odd part is that arsenic was a known poison in the Roman times...
But that was barbaric knowledge and was probably discarded as not being scientific enough.
So was lead....
Asbestos, too, was known to be toxic back then.
@@jayamilapersson4030 Those were savages. LOL Did Romans like Red and Orange?
I think for some folk it killed flies on the wallpaper. Arsenic has to unite with another metal to be poisonous. We have metals in our bodies so the poisoning would be slow. People try to kill themselves and others with Arsenic and are disapointed Lead Arsenic there's your man! Lead and open coal fires probably killed more.
The Victorian period went on long after Victoria.Science and technology advanced in an enormous leap. Art was unbelievably ugly and staid with exceptions and colonialism unspeakable. Housing heating is still very expensive in
Britain. I live in Auckland NZ which is a dream climate for old Scotsmen.
I was a baby in the early 80s in the US. I actually remember my parents mentioning that they'd made sure not to get lead paint for the house, heh, so I guess that's around when things started changing.
Once I heard the squeaking sound of the door, I was obsessed!
My grandparents were born in the 1880s. I listened to all the stories about gas heating and cooking, wall paper and frightening explosions. My Nana always wore a corset to look her proper best. It is wonderful so many people survived all the hazards.
Some politician during Victorian time would eat the wallpaper to show how safe it was. Some politician, nowadays, would drink Flint Michigan water to show how safe it was.
WOW that was an amazing comparison. WOW
Ivanka trump will televise her being injected with the covid vaccine
I had a teacher in high school that would joke about how it seemed people died so easily in the past. These hidden killers in the homes makes that make sense
Now people die slowly with all the food additives .
One of the most fascinating videos I have ever watched. Thank you!
did anyone else catch that shade at 25:44 ?? LOL
Host: "I was delighted to have a smaller waist- 24 inches!"
Shady Corset Lady: "24 and three quarters..."
lol I immediately paused to see who else noticed
Yeah, my first thought......."catty bitch"!😼
That response is cleverly addressed at about 31:25
In the day of the corset a 24" waist was considered large.
@@patriciaribaric3409 No it wasn't
I had gaslighting installed in my flat when my ex moved in with me. Wouldn't recommend.
This needs more upvotes...narcissists victims, we are everywhere.
@@mariaduszak9064 Amen.
OMG!
HILARIOUS!
OMG!
Hilarious
100/10
Wow! Very interesting. I love history. And, yes, this made me think of what we're oblivious to today.
Fascinating episode! Suzanne, your coat color is gorgeous and so flattering…
Victorian middle-class..."measuring how good your life is based on how many objects you own & your taste dictated by the media"...gee wez, just like today😀
That is not true anymore. Today you don;t have to own that stuff, just rent it or fake it take a photo and leave. Its just what piece of value can you put together with yourself in one camera lense.
Experience are the new indicator for how good your life is.
Posing on vacations, party's and activities etc.
@@Kino_Cartoon ... I have never taken seriously any Instagram post or Facebook post... If you think about it.. you actually know some of those people personally and know their life is nowhere near as beautiful and stress-free as they pretend...lol
@@WhatsUpWithSheila
Yeah I know!
It's just showing those events. Like the big Fyre scandal. I saw a video about that in which the narrator was saying that this were the new 'things" people are posing with. If course that isn't the full truth but he made some good points.
I just said this in a short sentence. To understand everything about you should watch the video (if you want to). I think he can explain it better than me.
If you want I'll look for it and post the link 🤔
Kino Cartoon yes please can you send the link , I want yo know
Companies have always prioritized money over people's lives :/
Well yeah. It's a company not a hospital. It's a business not a charity.
GloomGaiGar Money is worthless compared to life itself. You’d have to be painfully shallow to think otherwise
@@irarelyupload6930
Tell anyone who is broke "Well at least you have life!" and see how well they take it.
megan2478 That’s only because they have limited access to food and opportunity. Which is pathetic for 1st world countries
@@irarelyupload6930 okay I see you held your own. What your saying I definitely agree with. Everyone is depressed nowadays because of the struggle to do everyday things with the stuff we are provided based on how we conform to the system.
Thank you for this lesson in history.
Love watching documentary like this
These shows always remind me of how actually lucky we are to be alive. Like so many people died from all kinds of gross and dangerous stuff all through history and we came from the survivors.
You idiot.
@@KVID1000 You've won the award for most retarded comment in this whole comment section. Now kindly, fuck right off.
Descended from survivors, yes... And yet we're similarly dying from things in our own 21st century homes, and the danger of most of these products is already known. Ironic.
Well atleast you're looking at the bright side.
So you’ve got a choice between milk with tb or poison walls
Victorians: I’ll take the lot
Keira lol
And here are some wall infused loaves of “bread”
Excellent documentary 👏👏🍿
History repeats itself and it continues to do so. Question everything
"Well, if I could just show you..."
*suddenly, a naked guy's torso appears*
guy's?
wismar3630 they had a masculine physique
@@JacquelineUnderwood 23:54 that'd be a woman there my friend. You can see underboob for sure.
Hawkpelt94 like 99% sure that’s not under boob, it’s a pec, because I’m 98% sure I see a nipple but maybe I’m wrong?
ahahah
Narrator: “I’m headed to the nursery to seek out the next killer-“
Me- “The baby!”
Possibly...if it accuses you of witchcraft (referencing another episode)
Having a baby certainly was pretty deadly
The baby looken kinda sus......
Same energy as:
"There is only one thing worse than a rapist BOOM"
*rips off paper above rapist*
"A child"
"No"
A child
das ist sehr informativ;👍👍 und ich kannte das Problem mit dem Arsen verseuchten Tapeten bisher nicht.
I like how obsessive materialism is just good in this documentary
One day, future historians will look back on us now regarding plastic surgery and talk about the extraordinary lengths people went to fit the idea of beauty
Comparatively maybe corsets aren't that bad lol 🤔
I agree. And how people deluded themselves into thinking it was empowering somehow....
Also caking on a shit ton of makeup and distorting their pictures online...
Yes! They will be like why did they inject their lips to look like a fish. And what’s with the breast implants? 😂😂😂
@@gayledimitri5887 you can literally get infections and die from some of the materials used for breast implants
Hipster Madara oh, IK. That’s why I don’t have any of those things, lol.
Watch future historians talk about how the Kardashians surgery was "deadly"😂
"even if you hadn't eaten the wallpaper you'd still be in danger" just caused me to lose it laughing my ass off
Sorta made me want to eat the wallpaper...
@Gi Gi 😂😂😂lol
@Gi Gi i know its a joke but few years ago baby ate a piece of wallpaper and it was lead that was the culprit! Lots of homes built had lead
Corsets can't do you any harm unless you're wearing them incorrectly (to tight, not worn as it should be, etc). Fashion historians would say the same thing.