Chisel Plowing | Added Suitcase Weights
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- Chisel Plowing | Added Suitcase Weights. Do front weights on a tractor help you plow better? How much front weight does a tractor need to chisel plow effectively? #farmallfanatic #farmall #farming
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I got quite a controversial statement that most arnt going to like. No antique tractors or trucks are “better” than the others. It really depends on who you are and what you need. You can prefer an ih, I’m a Deere guy because that is what I prefer, but ain’t nothin wrong with Oliver allis or ih. For someone to just go out and say “oh Deere is better than ih” they’ve probably never owned an ih in their life or operated one. Now some do have their perks, like ih torque amplifiers or fords without live hydrolics or an overrun pto. I like deeres because they are very simple with the two cylinder and they are easy to get attatchments for considering they never had specialty ones like farmall or allis. Not that I wouldn’t love a nice farmall M but I would prefer a Deere A more just because that’s what I think is cool. Just because I like one brand doesn’t mean I don’t like the others. Same goes for trucks. If you are looking for a cheap durable work truck dodge is what you need. If you need something to pull a trailer with that is good on fuel, go get yourself a ford. Now with modern tractors that’s a whole nother story because some are better than others. Tell ya right now kinze makes a better planter than Deere. I love the channel. I hope you never stop making videos. Have a good day. 💥
We can't all root for the same team
I like that you deal with the critics with humor
Yep water off a ducks back
I pulled one with an m
😊@@dandurham4288
How deep and how many shanks
Kind of reminds me of my dad. For years he farmed with F-20 and B Farmall. Out of nowhere a M Farmall showed up. Giant leap forward. A few years go by and F-20 was gone. Replaced by C Farmall. Giant leap forward again. Super M showed up. Wow, 3 tractors. 450 showed up. First M was gone. Able to do field work in hours instead of days. Mostly what I see in your recent purchases is just how amazed you see what more power can do for you. Just like my dad. Getting advice from so many people can be good or bad. Depends all on what works and what works for you. I enjoy your videos. Most of all I enjoy how you set up your equipment for your use. Thanks
Yeah I like to hear the progression stories
That 826 sure sounds nice!!
It's still our big tractor too.
I'm a Deere guy,grew up with them,owned them and love them,but I'm not going to bash anybody because of the color of the paint.I just like to watch and hear tractors at work.Keep up the good work.
What I do is a long way from bashing... But I've also learned most of the derogatory comments, on this channel, come from green guys.
@@FarmallFanatic Not saying you're bashing,I don't like the Deere guys bashing you.Just saying,I like watching all tractors work.
@thomasdaniel6495 I just block em lol
We always chisel plowed at a angle and then deep disked at a slightly different angle. That's what breaks up the big clodes and then likely disk the direction of planting for a great seadbed.
If you really want to turn some dirt with the chisel, put some 3” twisted shovels on. But it will pull harder. A mounted spike tooth harrow would really smooth it out.
Boy, I tell you what, that tractor is just walking the dog!🔥🔥🔥
When we chisel plowed at the dairy farm we went on a slight angle compared to how it would be planted then disked the opposite angle. But sod would either get chiseled twice or disked twice.
The only way to know for sure if a tractor will pull something or not, hook 'em together and go to the field!
Absolutely
826 sounding good ,nice chisel plow ,mine is 3 point it works great ,draft control work really well on my set-up for depth control ,you got yours set-up well ,forsure disking after first ripping will take out the bounce on the plow ,great video and the front weights and hubs look good bud .
Thanks man tonight's video I definitely have her dialed in
We used a similar chisel plow. Works great when you get it deep in the ground. Loosens up all the compacted ground and loosens it up for the disc. You're gonna like the results better than a plow probably. Helps with those wet spots in the fields of PA.
I really enjoy your videos, Im originally from Mercer county,PA and grew up on a small dairy farm. Hearing those Farmall tractors take me back in time, First tractor I drove was a 606 , We had a H but didn't use it for much, running the blower filling silo or cultivator duty and had a blade for snow on the front. Last tractor I was operating was a Hydro 70 that was a great tractor in my opinion. Take care and thank you for letting me hear those Farmall tractors
Thanks for watching much more to come
thank you for the education. Don’t know a lot about tractor only know how to drive it.👍🇺🇸
👍
I enjoy your videos for multiple reasons and the humor is just one. Thanks for the video and I will see you later.
I sure do love hearing that diesel! Always happy when you upload videos :) I’ve got a 4020 diesel (John Deere) and I love the sound of it. I’ve got a couple of cubs, and boy are they useful. Hope the best for your garden this year!
Yes some people were like you could sell one of the cubs... never
Excellent video Geno :) also may sounds weird but I remember some years chisel then disk to plow and other years sometime plow then disk no chisel needed when farm with my dad also uncle too with them! Think depending on type ground dirt type farm have and moisture water had with it from Winter and Spring Season started up !
I really enjoyed watching the video! I'm sure by this season you will know what method works best and have a plan next year using the chisel plow. I would think plowed in the Fall then chiseled in the Spring would be the most ideal situation. Thanks for sharing and have a great day!
Right on
Awesome the ole girl sounds good and she’s running smooth
It will all work out in the end! Nothing to concern about! Great video!
Yep and fun along the way
I don't know about you, but my old hip bones just still hurt after a full days plowing until they finally get Field Tough every year. That ground should dress out great after disking. Great progress on the tractor update. Bill
I call it "tractor shape." Takes about 2 weeks lol
Nice set up
Hello Gino I think made a big difference. Looks great. I would not go to deep brings up the subsoil. Enjoyed your video have a great day.
Right on
30 second attention span.😂😂😂 Some people just have to be dirt bag's. Love watching your equipment work. 👍
The bad weather moving in⛈️.
Over here also.
The biggest IH tractor we had was an early 706 diesel with the lesser diesel engine and clamshell fenders, narrow front and quick hitch. We did have the 3pt conversion parts. It was a good tractor for us in Sandy central Wisconsin. Pulled 4-16 semi mounted plow easily. We baked hay a lot with it as well. Never had any problems with the engine. The parking brake pawl gave way while the tractor was moving and took out a bunch of gears. To me, that’s just a stupid parking brake design . Let’s set the parking brake by jambing some iron in the transmission gears. Overall it though it was a good tractor for us
I have never seen those stroke inhibitors before kinda interesting. 826 sounds good
That 826 is a beast. Great addition to the farm. Hardly sips any fuel too I bet!
Still on full lol
Nice set up.
Thanks
Up here in NY we chisel plow once and then disc it once on corn ground
Perfect timing on the rain!
Super lucky
Exactly on the video when you said I probably should have disced it first I thought the same thing. That guy was right. Good you for admitting it
This is the channel of admitting
I didn’t get to watch the first video but we would pull a wooden drag behind a disk to help level and break up clumps behind the disk it helped tremendously all without an extra trip thru the field
With all that green did you consider burn down before hitting it with the chisel plow?
Supper a looking good
How dare you talk on your own channel! 😂 Loving the 826 content, deff my favorite tractor on ypur farm so far. Glad its field work season. Boom!
Yep...talked an extra 5 minutes, this past video, in his honor 🎖
Excellent video 👍 just purely an observation based on your comments re discing before ripping watching the ripper from the good ground level camera the ripper is bouncing in and out of the ground as it hits the clumps from previous pass 🤔 looking forward to more experiments, 826 surely runs so sweet 👍 possibly if that tractor was only used for hay work the engine will surely benefit from some good old cultivation work 💪💪💪Red Power 💥
Yeah work it
👍 letting her run 🚨💥💯
You Know The Deal 🤙
We used the chisel to stir the top 5 or 6 inches. This would mix the grain stubble in so we could plow down a blended soil profile instead of plowing down a mat layer of organic matter. A 3pt 55 chisel plow 11 shanks, 966 in what we called 5th gear, hi range 1st TA forward. No suitcase weights 18.4-R38 duals, no rear weights. Pulled great for years.
I believe it
Hey FF,,,we pulled the same thing with a SMTAD in Iowa black dirt. No problem,,just don't go crazy deep. That said,few things prettier than disced,then hit it with the 3 bottom little genius.
True
I believe your really liking that 826. It looks and sounds good.
Is it a petrol or gasser as yee call them.
@@martymartin2894 diesel
Yeah. Discing that is going to be rough.
Hate to see you sell the A or the M, but I’m not paying the bills.
Thanks for the show.
First pass will be brutal lol
Boom 💥
We use a disk chisel. It saves you from having to disk before chiseling, and it saves you from plugging up, and you only need to chisel once. Tailor way made a nice heavy seven shank disk chisel . We now have a John Deere nine shank disk chisel.
Around here, Glencoe is big
would there be any benefit on putting some weight on the chisel plow frame?
No that thing sinks like an anchor
I watched this video 1 more time and noticed that the chisel plow is not really that deep as the tires are caring it all the time.
The wheels should only be used so it can not go to deep but not to carry it through the fields.
Nice job painting the duals!!
Thanks
I like all your videos and watch alot of them but am sure I missed some. I always wonder why you seem to use the 756 very seldom. Is it a gas hog or just not a tractor you care for much? I had a 656 diesel years ago and loved it but traded it for a new tractor and have always wished I had kept it. It was comfortable, easy to operate, super easy on fuel, and a real powerhouse. So am just curious why you don't use your 756 much?
One tractor, one job
It pulls the cultimulcher
"Where theres thunder, theres lightning" ya think? lol so funny
No not at all
Here we call them deep tillage cultivators. We always pull harrows behind them and it helps a lot with smooth. We don't dare disc in our clay ground that much otherwise it's too fine and becomes concrete. Now your Farmall M (Not Super MTA) will not only pull 7 shanks but will pull them deeper than you think it will. The Super MTA will of course handle it better, but the M will do it. We don't use the suitcase weights at all here. The primary purpose of suitcase weights is to counterbalance mounted implements. For drawbar work, they're seldom necessary.
Well they sure made a difference here
Here in eastern washington we chisel in the fall to. Break up the hard pan. Then in sping disk then cultivator with harrows behind the cultivator.
That's what you're supposed to do... But I can't do that because I have deer food plots
It seems like all the IH diesels drink a little oil even if they dont leak it. Spring and fall when the 856 racks up 15-20 hours a week I usually have to add a couple quarts a week. 560 is the same way in the summer with hay.
I think that oil absorption was probably from the filter
826 purring with the chisel plow!
Is that a petrol tractor, they seem weird to me because we never had them over here where Ireland.
Diesel
All it does is rain , good luck.
At least you are having some fun. TAKE CARE !!!
Constant rain for sure
Do you have any of the 65lb IH suitcase weights?
No
Going to my first real tractor show this weekend anything I should look out for? Like Hidden gems
I could write a dissertation on that
That's the way to learn. Is by doing. I learned to disk or run a digger lightly
That's the way I see it
The object is to work the ground as little as possible. Less expense per acre the more profit from the crop. Also the more you drive over the ground the more compaction you have. Duels will let you work ground a bit more wet but it does spread out the compaction.
It's just me but I would have brought out the disc after the chisel. The more you chisel the lumpy it becomes. Still I believe your going down a foot where you used to plow 6 to 8 inches so you are breaking up dirt so the rain can drain the the roots can go down in the ground. From the video I didn't notice any wheel slippage. You need a bigger plow or you need to put something else behind the plow.
Not my objective
Best way to learn is to just do it and see. Looks good though
For sure
Field cultivator with harrow then plant.
That is why we chisel plowed in the fall. Let winter calm the ground down then hit it with the disk and field cultivator in the spring.
That is definitely the thing to do
When you plow grass. It is Usually rough to disc it after.
I just go over it a second time with the disc
A German diesel sounds really good.Sounds strong.
How many horsepower
102
Plow then disk and it would be ready to plant or seed. These weeds will be back growing at the end of the 1st week.
With all the green growing on that land, you might have saved yourself some time hitting it with the moldboard plow first. Then just a single trip with the disk would likely be all you would have needed before pulling in with the planter.
Well that's what's normally done here but i'm trying something different. I just bought this 826 and chisel plow.. so i'm definitely going to play with it
You should be pulling some harrows be hide it or tine mount harrows on the cultivator after if you cultivate go to wide sweep shovels .When we go over fields spike it deep with wide spikesthen disc it then after or all summer wide shoels on cult with tine harros mounted on cult all summer we all ways have harrows on cult even spiking does a nice job saves the kiddneys on the second trip but if you spike first then dic its smooth after that on our disc we pull it deepas we can we have tine harrow s on the disc as well and pull a set of coil type packers behinde the disc does a wouderfull job
What state?
We only chiseled our corn fields so we didn't have to worry about sod clumps.
I couldn’t help but notice that you’re kicking up dust there buddy, no fear of kicking up dust around my place right now too much rain
Yeah well then we got about a quarter inch of rain
Looks good trial and error but it’s your farm and you do what you want right or wrong
I think I figured it out
Probably the right amount of spacers for a FIRST pass but you could definitely REMOVE a spacer for the 2nd pass and go just a tad bit deeper!!.
Yeah you're definitely correct
Looks like the wheel slip has been eliminated. It's dry, so that helps.
Yeah it was gone
You will like the ride once you put the duals on your 826.
Agree
The chisel plow is for breaking the hard pan.
And that i've done
How many acres do u farm there where ur at!
Why the!
Tramp that clutch before hitting the start button
Why
Something about rolling a cover crop under.
That is a just a heavy duty field cultivator with those small shovels on there
Yeah pretty much
Another gem FF, you hit the nail on the head, the problem with today’s world is no attention span or patience.
And a sense of entitlement
They are called stroke restrictors😊
This video is proof of why it’s important to have a good seat 😂🇺🇸
Oh I was gettin' rocked lol
826 doesn't even know it's back there.
You need to pull a drag behind your chisal plow
Yeah dude. You'll be alright if you've got power steering. I always get reminded of that Massy Harris 33 without power steering and trying to disc after the clay ground was plowed. It would spin that steering wheel right out of your hands. It was an arm breaker. The ones complaining about the too much talk have a bit of a problem with critical thinking. Patience grass hopper.
New generation
My neighbor (sprays) first, kills all the grass??? No clumps. Do you think this is better way instead ?? Do you think it’s better than just plowing. Seems like you have a mess with all of this grass???
Just depends on what your views are
Too bouncy. Maybe inch or two lower.slower. nice tractor.is there hard pan?
No real hard pan it's sandy loam
If ya put 3 inch twist points on there it will cover way better
That's what I hear
@@FarmallFanatic on my 55 7 shank I have the 3 inch twist points does a great job behind my 450 gas , the first row of shanks I have the twist so both are throwing the dirt out then the middle row of two throwing the dirt in the back row the outside shanks throwing dirt out the middle shank on back row I left just the straight point like you have on it now does a nice even job and covers nice
another name for a chisel plow is a deep tillage
Is it a 826 deisel??
Yes
Should custom a turbo... you might make 110pto hp. You should be able to pull a 10 shank chisel plow. For now you should be able to pull 9 shank fine. Got to add the duals. My 74 case 1270 hub duals 135pto hp I'm able to pull 11 shank krause chisel plow 8 inches in the ground at 2100rpm pto rated..
@@meateaterwhitetail7291 You don't have to add a Turbo...You can just turn the pump up
@@FarmallFanatic that's ur call... me personally if I want to pull a 20ft disc, 24ft field cultivator and a 10 shank chisel. I'd look for a 1086 with duals.. 130pto hp you can pull as much implements as what a 150 and 180 pto hp tractor can pull... dad had a 1066 it was a nice tractor pulling a 15ft jd disc.. I brought my 1270 for a good price. But I had to rebuilt the powershift along with new starter, hydraulic couplers.. I'd get ih. But there just too expensive to buy...
@meateaterwhitetail7291 If you want to pull larger implements you need a bigger tractor... plain and simply put
My grandfather chisel plow first then disk second it that's how we did it always chisel plow first then disk always
That would make sense to me just by looking at the two different machines, the discs would be more like a finer finish and I don't know about this type of work.
That what you call tearing it up like a new ground.
It really did
@@FarmallFanatic Jtwes has a chisel plow for his 140 I'd love to have.
I’m no expert farmer but I thought it was to pull up the clouds to keep it from blowing when he gets dry
In the Fall yes, then it settles all Winter....I'm gonna have a good time discing lol
Who's Vladimir?
Outta Here's Brother
That seems very narrow i wouldn't like to have many acres to do with that.
I do
See, the more you listen to me, the more you learn, and the more you get done.
Aren't you glad I got you into farming and taught you everything?
It almost seems like the chisel plow is too light. If I were you I’d build a weight bar on top to get it a little heavier.
And here I'm trying to make it lighter...All it wants to do is sink down two feet
I must not have heard you say that, it just looked like it bounced around a lot.
@@AntiqueIron05 I put the depth limiters on the cylinder because it was buried in the ground.
I gotcha now. Makes sense.
Keep an eye out for coyotes.... You'll never when they might pay you a visit for a nice chicken dinner.....
Poor guys need to eat 2. He should leave them out a bit of food.
Fox here
Here is some humor....why are john deere tractors painted green? ....... So they can hide in the grass when the big red ones go by..haha
Tractors are red, crops are green
I don't think its is necessary to chisel plow in two directions. Just an opinion not hating.
I'm gonna agree
The M is still crap super M or not.
Super M is a beast
@@FarmallFanatic In your mind only still only 42 hp
@@colinvoss8484 44 Antique horse power