The Image of God and Original Justice (Aquinas 101)
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“The image of God exists in the mind, not because it has a remembrance of itself, loves itself, and understands itself; but because it can also remember, understand, and love God by Whom it was made.” -St. Augustine of Hippo
The human being is made in God's image as spiritual creatures. We are most like God by knowledge and by love. When we come to know God and love God, we reflect His image most clearly, because then in our faculties we reflect what God simply is.
The Image of God and Original Justice (Aquinas 101) - Fr. Thomas Joseph White, O.P.
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Well played!
Good is good....
He gave us A Good life.
This is a tremendous video lecture!!!
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Frank B I found ( or I should say it appeared in my youtube suggestions ) this fantastic talk from the Thomistic Institute that actually answers my question about palaeontology and some work catholic thinkers are doing in the field, here is the link, very interesting indeed. I had been wondering a lot about this since I learned I had about 2% neanderthal DNA like most humans today. th-cam.com/video/NKcwCpWOZhk/w-d-xo.html
So the preternatural graces that our first parents lost due to sin were Infused knowledge, Immortality, Impassibility and Integrity. Did I missed anything? I am looking forward that these God's gift to man be restored in the new creation Jesus promised. Laudamus te!
St. Thomas teaches that original justice is, at root, grace. But, to this grace there are super-added benefits for our original parents including what you list: natural integrity (lower powers perfectly subordinated to higher powers), immortality/impassibility, and plenary knowledge/virtue. St. Thomas teaches that most of this would have been communicated to the offspring, but some not (e.g. plenary knowledge).
I find it helpful to think of evolution being: Not "the evolution of man (human)", but, Rather it is: "the evolution of disposed matter" finally one day being disposed for participating the human soul (yes, transitive use of 'participating') and this applied soul is present where there is a living disposed human body, applied by 'The Angel of the LORD' in that Now of disposition.
[Aquinas + Aristotle + Augustine]
I would say that the figures of Adam and Eve cannot symbolize the first human community, contrary to what is stated around 2:40. This view that Adam and Eve symbolize the first human community is called polygenism, and it was kind of forbidden by Pope Pius XII in his encyclical Human Generis. In it, he states:
_37. _*_When, however, there is question of another conjectural opinion, namely polygenism, the children of the Church by no means enjoy such liberty. For the faithful cannot embrace that opinion which maintains that either after Adam there existed on this earth true men who did not take their origin through natural generation from him as from the first parent of all, or that Adam represents a certain number of first parents._*_ Now it is in no way apparent how such an opinion can be reconciled with that which the sources of revealed truth and the documents of the Teaching Authority of the Church propose with regard to original sin, which proceeds from a sin actually committed by an individual Adam and which, through generation, is passed on to all and is in everyone as his own.[12]_
So I think that we should hold fast to monogenism, the view that the whole of human race originated with two literal first humans, Adam and Eve, as this conforms to papal teaching. At least if subsequent papal teaching did not overturn Pope Pius's. I, at least, have no knowledge of such teaching.
Source: www.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_12081950_humani-generis.html
I don't think he meant Adam and Eve symbolized a group of people. Instead, first human community = first man and first woman, symbolized by Adam and Eve.
Are there any thomistic views on stoicism?
One place in which this comes up often is in discussions of the passions. Check back in in a few weeks when we release two videos on this theme. Those videos are addressed as a partial critique of Stoicism.
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What “evolution trait” gave us the ability to think? I would say “the ability to communicate to one another.”
Dear Fr. Thomas, did St. Thomas also believe that prehuman hominids were the slime of the earth from which God created Adam? How do you reconcile the million years of evolution and struggle for life, death and decay before the first humans came on the scene with God's Word that tells us that everything he created was good, very good? And St. Paul's words in 1st Corinthians 15:21-22 and Romans 8:19-22? How did St. Thomas interpret these verses?
St Thomas believed that God's very good creation included natural evils such as the death of plants and animals because these are necessary for the perfection of the universe. Of course, since the genetic and paleontological evidences for evolution had not been discovered and synthesized, no one at the time supposed the slime of the earth to be an irrational animal, but the Doctors seem more concerned with what the language of creation symbolizes than its face value meaning (St Augustine in particular took a large amount of Moses' language to be symbolic for the sake of the unlearned Jews).
There is no difficult in animal death occurring before the advent of sin, for animals are not subsistent; they exist for the sake of humans, not for their own sake, and the good of the species and of the natural order requires individual brutes to die to, for instance, feed other animals. It is human death specifically that is unnatural (and St Thomas insists it is altogether unnatural) because humans are created to be God's friends and existence is proper to us (specifically to our souls) as spiritual creatures.
God created me..
I don't understand what you meant by "fully subject to reason" or how man's reason was subject to God?
I am human ...
I'm a very big student of paleontology and follow every development I see in the field. I not only accept the theory of evolution but take great joy in it. I know this is in keeping with Catholic faith which is great because were it otherwise I'd be feeling I'd not only be not using my reason but actually throwing it under the bus. I'm also aware that Catholics are free to believe in a more literal version of the story of Adam and Eve if they wish. This somewhat confused me as while of course I'm aware the science in this field will always undergo further development, there is much about it that is as settled as the fact that the earth goes round the sun and not vice versa. For example it is very interesting that we have only very recently discovered that every single human alive has the same one woman in their ancestry and every one had the same one man in the ancestors ( know as genetic Adam and Eve ) however it is also known by the exact same scientific method that these two people were seperated from each other by thousands of years, so obviously never met. I know the church has not commented much in this area and is content to let science continue to make new findings in this field but I was curious to know if this knowledge has had any impact in church thinking and if there are any theories within church thinking as to what might have happened given what we now know. For example , does anyone think that the first humans that received souls had parents that did not have souls and if so what kind of relationship ( from a Christian perspective did they have or not have or even should have with such animal but sentient and caring parents ) just curious , that's all. I'm not expecting much of an answer really but given you guys produce such good stuff I thought there is a chance you might have some idea or perhaps thoughts on this topic 🤔
there`s a site called thomistic evolution, many essays on the subject there. Also when it comes to genetic Eves and Adams we are only aware of the last time it happened. There obviously are other bottleneck points especially when it comes to male ancestry.
@@McRingil thanks Adam , I'll check out that site, sounds interesting. 👍 Can you expand a little on what you are saying about us only knowing about the last bottleneck , or point me to somewhere I can learn about it. I love paleontology, it fascinates me.
@@adventureinallthings it`s all a matter of statistical drift, but more recent (actually pretty old and known, 2013) studies:
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23908240?dopt=Abstract&holding=npg
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23908240?dopt=Abstract&holding=npg
put the MOST RECENT common female and male ancestors much more closely. It doesn`t imply necessarily they were a pair of course. There`s no doubt we get such pairs earlier in the evolution, like the common ancestors of all placental mammals.
If you accept evolution you are swallowing non sense. Most probably because you dont want to be called a fanatic.
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Totally agree with you.
I am a sinner not a perfect human being
The truth is that God was created (by men) in the image of men.
Thank goodness someone here has common sense. The rest of the discussion is as daft as the John Frum cult.
we have to invent an other word for evolution or an other example with which science-religion non-contradiction is exemplified, because some people get immediately triggered on this word and starts never ending skirmish and denial. at any means. to the death. just see any comment section.
I read The Metaphysics of Evolution by Fr. Chad Ripperger, and the message from this video seem to contradict each other insofar as "man evolving from an ape". There's also a comment below that seems to reinforce the unsettled science of the Earth rotating the sun or the sun rotating around the Earth; which is it? And here I was rejoicing in Francis not interjecting his type of catholicism in today's Querida Amazonia!
Sorry , do I misunderstand you. ? The unsettled question about the sun ? What are you asking or saying ? 🤔
Heliocentric versus Geocentric.
Hi Andrew. The Church accepts the findings of sound science, of course. It seems you are speaking "tongue-in-cheek" regarding Galileo, but why would you do this? You also seem to be "ripping" on Ripperger, but both these priests fully accept Catholic teaching, which its unclear if you know.
Angelic Doctor , If you’ve read Fr Ripperger book on the Metaphysics of Evolution, I believe he’s saying that the notion of humans evolving from anything but what we are today is nonsensical and I agree with him. So, you may have misunderstood my comment. On the contrary I believe Fr Ripperger to be a 1st class Thomist. And I also support O.P.
@@andrewf.castaneda4695 and you believe which ?
How could be a human is an animal?
I choose to be human...
I asked a simple question yesterday in the hope of nothing more in response than perhaps some mild speculation that might provide some food for thought. The question is there below near the beginning. What I wasn't expecting was ignorant bile and threats of damnation for holding perfectly normal views on the topic that are in keeping with church teaching. I'm not upset at the comments ( I'm a big boy and can take it and a whole lot worse ) but I'm done listening to such people. Is there anyone there that would like to make some speculation on what I asked initially that is not some ranting raving 'Trad' ( self identified as such I mean, as I don't believe in such a concept, there is just catholic , no prefix nonsense of any kind) . Anyone except them have any thoughts ?. If they come in again I'm just going to ignore them. Life is too short
So, a good resource is thomisticevolution.org. We've also benefitted from the research of Fr. Nicanor Austriaco, Fr. Simon Gaine, Dr. Kenneth Kemp, and Dr. James Madden on these issues. if you search any of these names with the word "evolution" you will find a wealth of resources. We also have a variety of excellent lectures on the theme on the Thomistic Institute podcast (found at soundcloud.com). All the best in your research!
Your view on evolution is truly disappointing and, in my view, scandalous. This is not the first video I have watched of yours in which you leave to "scientific competence" whether God created man in an evolutionary process at a certain period of time distanced from the "big bang" (another theory you seem to embrace). I expect these views from heretics, atheists, protestants and even so-called Catholics, but I honestly wasn't expecting them from priests promoting the beautiful writings of Saint Thomas Aquinas.. Modernism truly is the synthesis of all evils.
If you're at all interested in what some Dominicans of our Province (with whom we collaborate) have to say on the matter, you might find this book interesting: www.clunymedia.com/product/thomistic-evolution/
John - do you have a literalist interpretation of Genesis 1-11 (i.e. do you believe in talking snakes)? What Church teaching would you point to in order to refute what was said here?
@@angelicdoctor8016 Hey, talking snakes and donkeys are fun, and tbh I see a lot of them every day