Well he did also add “if you buy from Amazon or a store that’s not just a dedicated knife shop.” I’m like 160-170 in and I’ve never had a fake but that’s only because I buy all my knives from legit sites. Probably 65% of them have been through just 3 sites: WMK, Kizer & Mojave Outdoor. I’m also counting Mojave Outdoors store on Amazon which is the only Amazon buying I do for knives.
I have bought clones in my life as well and they are not allways bad. Just take note: Amazon is a platform, where sellers sell. It is not amazon selling.
@@cheaperthanyouthink2646 A couple years ago these were 160, now spyderco wants 280+ This shits so funny to me, they're using _bearings_ on a clone? Screw paying (near) full price for a knock off, but buying knockoffs directly are like 20 bucks. Sure the steel isn't as good but just buy five and swap them out when they're dull they'll sharpen faster anyway Lots of clones seem to be using actual carbon fiber and titanium too, wild.
Damn bro The same thing happened to me when I got my shaman yesterday from Amazon I disassembled my knife today and saw that it had bearings and thought it was really strange. At first, i gave the benefit of the doubt because the microtech manual stitch runs on a bearing and thought spyderco was just trying something new. Also, it uses a Chicago screw and I looked into it. But this video confirms it We got scammed.... But it's just a little weird because amazon doesn't permit the sale of counterfeit products I'm gonna call spyderco first thing in the morning
@CheaperThanYouThink I'm not really asking them to do anything because thank god I can still return it and get my money back The knife fels pretty good for a fake But it's not fair to pay full price for a counterfeit I just want to hear it from them if it's sopose to run on washers and not bearings
@@cheaperthanyouthink2646 Nope. It’s part of the Native line, Native CHIEF. Like American Indian or the Gnostics were Shaman’s….ask Eric Glesser what it’s called. Or look in a dictionary or Google 👍🏻🤙🏻
Detent wasn’t necessarily the problem with this one, it was just a clone which ofc happens from time to time, it’s better to shop through strictly knife shops
This was about a year ago for me when I bought this and I’ll admit money was very tight. I was paying for school, living, groceries, gas, all the stuff that put a recent adult (me) in a tight spot when buying knives. Funny enough that’s why my channel name is cheaper than you think, when I started the channel had barely any money for knives haha. I would never do this now that I’m a little more financially secure but when Amazon dropped this guy bellow $200 I chanced it and unfortunately lost the chance haha
I bought my first couple spyderco's from Amazon when I started knife collecting because I didn't know there were websites that sell knives. I also didn't know knife scams were a thing. That's probably why the majority of people would buy from Amazon.
what you pay is what you get. i came across some AMAZING clone knives that offer you the 95% of the original for literally 1/3 of the price. if you view it as a tool and nothing more then there is no reason to pay the extra cost, especially when the good ones (clones) are sooooo close to the original. Plus this should be food for thought for the companies that sell the original product on how they calculate the cost, especially with the performance you get from a more budget steel like Chinese D2. that steel is killing it!
@cheaperthanyouthink2646 hell yeah....I buy a lot off of Amazon and it's usually bout 50/50 on having to send it back. Glad to hear you got it straight though. If they put that knife on Wish for bout $40 I'd pick one up
Well, 150 Spyderco knives deep and not a single clone. DLT trading, GP Knives,National Knives,BHQ, Knives Ship Free….🤔 Knife Center and Cutlery Shoppe 👍🏻
It’s not enough that you say Shay-men instead of Shaman but you said it like 50 times throughout the video. It was irritating me more every time I heard it like a drippy faucet in the middle of the night lol
😂, I am a man of influence, when I get told by store clerk at my local knife shop that it’s “shay-man” then that was unfortunately all I knew haha. In my most recent review I made the change however, after all the comments haha
@@cheaperthanyouthink2646 well can’t blame ya then. If I had heard it that way the first time I would’ve been saying the same until someone corrected me. I thought u were doing it intentionally like u just didn’t believe it was supposed to be pronounced “Shah-man.” I don’t know how old you are so you might not find this funny or even know who I’m talking about. Back when I was like 15 there was a rapper Chamillionaire that just came out. His first big song was “Ridin’ Dirty.” The song was insanely popular but no one had heard of the guy before that song. To everyone I knew I kept pronouncing his name Cha-millionaire, well because that’s how it’s spelled. These girls I was hanging out with were introduced to his music by me so they were pronouncing his name the same way. Until one day I met up with them and told me they went to the record store and asked for the Cha-millionaire CD 💿 and all the workers gave each other a look, laughed at them and said “yeah the KUH-millionaire CD is right over here.” Little oopsie on my part. I got a good laugh out of it too and wish I’d seen the whole interaction in the store 😂
I just bought a shaman clone with micarta for $25, 8cr13mov. perfect lock up no movement up down or side to side, maybe 10% so lots of life left on that wedge bit of metal, razor sharp. Would never pay more than that for a knife so a great deal from my perspective. Not fair to sell them as originals though. Hard to say they're good value at 280 dollars, pretty much just throwing money away.
@@cheaperthanyouthink2646 Yea, but they literally committed a crime. Amazon needs to refund you the money. You should also report the seller as fraud. If the seller and amazon will not refund you, go to your bank and have them charge back due to fraud.
Would help if you could let everyone know the who the seller was that used Amazon to sell the knife.
Nope,I’m 116 Spyderco knives deep not one fake. SHAMAN. No shay-men🙋♂️
Well he did also add “if you buy from Amazon or a store that’s not just a dedicated knife shop.”
I’m like 160-170 in and I’ve never had a fake but that’s only because I buy all my knives from legit sites. Probably 65% of them have been through just 3 sites: WMK, Kizer & Mojave Outdoor. I’m also counting Mojave Outdoors store on Amazon which is the only Amazon buying I do for knives.
That thing is a shame man. 😬
Wha wha😂
“ShAy-MaNn” 😂😂
I hate when ppl call it Shayman lol.
I have bought clones in my life as well and they are not allways bad.
Just take note: Amazon is a platform, where sellers sell. It is not amazon selling.
Wow The detent almost sounds better than a real shaman lol
It’s got ball bearings in it that’s why😂
@@cheaperthanyouthink2646 A couple years ago these were 160, now spyderco wants 280+
This shits so funny to me, they're using _bearings_ on a clone? Screw paying (near) full price for a knock off, but buying knockoffs directly are like 20 bucks. Sure the steel isn't as good but just buy five and swap them out when they're dull they'll sharpen faster anyway
Lots of clones seem to be using actual carbon fiber and titanium too, wild.
Gotta HATE when that happens.🤨
Damn bro
The same thing happened to me when I got my shaman yesterday from Amazon
I disassembled my knife today and saw that it had bearings and thought it was really strange. At first, i gave the benefit of the doubt because the microtech manual stitch runs on a bearing and thought spyderco was just trying something new. Also, it uses a Chicago screw and I looked into it.
But this video confirms it
We got scammed....
But it's just a little weird because amazon doesn't permit the sale of counterfeit products
I'm gonna call spyderco first thing in the morning
I called spyderco they couldn’t do anything, honestly I recommend just returning it asap so you can get your money back in 2 weeks
@CheaperThanYouThink I'm not really asking them to do anything because thank god I can still return it and get my money back
The knife fels pretty good for a fake
But it's not fair to pay full price for a counterfeit
I just want to hear it from them if it's sopose to run on washers and not bearings
@@kevinteran5624 mine felt really good too, held a decent edge too
SHA-MEN. 🙋♂️👍🏻
It’s a shayman
@@cheaperthanyouthink2646 Negative 😎
@@DuhYaThink It’s got an accent to it
@@cheaperthanyouthink2646 Nope. It’s part of the Native line, Native CHIEF. Like American Indian or the Gnostics were Shaman’s….ask Eric Glesser what it’s called. Or look in a dictionary or Google 👍🏻🤙🏻
Always be careful on Amazon and eBay... :-( Peace, Stiletto :-)
A lesson only needed once to learn haha. Awesome that you’ve seen my channel, I’ve been a fan of yours for quite a while!
What happened? You returned it right?
Yessir, about 15 minutes after this video was posted
Send it back and go buy from your local hunting and gun store . That way you can pick one with a detent you like
Detent wasn’t necessarily the problem with this one, it was just a clone which ofc happens from time to time, it’s better to shop through strictly knife shops
That’s not a CLONE, it’s a COUNTERFEIT because it bears the Spyderco insignia. A clone is legal, but a counterfeit is illegal.
I actually didn’t even think of that myself!
Shaymin is a Pokémon. The SHAH-MAN is a knife
That it is😂
Luv them knives can do metal testing if you send it to him
That would be awesome if I still had it
Why would you give Amazon your money for knives when there are a bunch of awesome knife exclusive websites that actually support the community.
This was about a year ago for me when I bought this and I’ll admit money was very tight. I was paying for school, living, groceries, gas, all the stuff that put a recent adult (me) in a tight spot when buying knives. Funny enough that’s why my channel name is cheaper than you think, when I started the channel had barely any money for knives haha. I would never do this now that I’m a little more financially secure but when Amazon dropped this guy bellow $200 I chanced it and unfortunately lost the chance haha
I bought my first couple spyderco's from Amazon when I started knife collecting because I didn't know there were websites that sell knives. I also didn't know knife scams were a thing. That's probably why the majority of people would buy from Amazon.
@@iamfuckingyourwaifuandther2743 that’s exactly right, I was the same way
evil bay
Things get crazy out here on Ama-con
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I don’t even think it’s good enough to be called a clone. That looked terrible.
I agree, honestly it handled decent but the mixed up font accompanied by the ball bearings were such dead giveaways
what you pay is what you get.
i came across some AMAZING clone knives that offer you the 95% of the original for literally 1/3 of the price.
if you view it as a tool and nothing more then there is no reason to pay the extra cost, especially when the good ones (clones) are sooooo close to the original.
Plus this should be food for thought for the companies that sell the original product on how they calculate the cost, especially with the performance you get from a more budget steel like Chinese D2. that steel is killing it!
cant you return it and report it to amazon...you need to at least a review stating this
I did don’t worry, this was more of a psa don’t worry
Send it back and Amazon will give youyour money back
I did it actually 5 minutes after making the video haha
@cheaperthanyouthink2646 hell yeah....I buy a lot off of Amazon and it's usually bout 50/50 on having to send it back. Glad to hear you got it straight though. If they put that knife on Wish for bout $40 I'd pick one up
If they are selling it as an actual spyderco that's not a clone, that's a counterfeit.
Well, 150 Spyderco knives deep and not a single clone. DLT trading, GP Knives,National Knives,BHQ, Knives Ship Free….🤔 Knife Center and Cutlery Shoppe 👍🏻
It’s not enough that you say Shay-men instead of Shaman but you said it like 50 times throughout the video. It was irritating me more every time I heard it like a drippy faucet in the middle of the night lol
😂, I am a man of influence, when I get told by store clerk at my local knife shop that it’s “shay-man” then that was unfortunately all I knew haha. In my most recent review I made the change however, after all the comments haha
@@cheaperthanyouthink2646 well can’t blame ya then. If I had heard it that way the first time I would’ve been saying the same until someone corrected me. I thought u were doing it intentionally like u just didn’t believe it was supposed to be pronounced “Shah-man.”
I don’t know how old you are so you might not find this funny or even know who I’m talking about. Back when I was like 15 there was a rapper Chamillionaire that just came out. His first big song was “Ridin’ Dirty.” The song was insanely popular but no one had heard of the guy before that song. To everyone I knew I kept pronouncing his name Cha-millionaire, well because that’s how it’s spelled. These girls I was hanging out with were introduced to his music by me so they were pronouncing his name the same way. Until one day I met up with them and told me they went to the record store and asked for the Cha-millionaire CD 💿 and all the workers gave each other a look, laughed at them and said “yeah the KUH-millionaire CD is right over here.” Little oopsie on my part. I got a good laugh out of it too and wish I’d seen the whole interaction in the store 😂
send it back
Already on it
Never order of Amazon
Always sucks but I had to learn the hard way apparently haha
Every knife reviewer that mispronounces Shaman I immediately stop watching & give a 👎.
I understand these terms😔
I just bought a shaman clone with micarta for $25, 8cr13mov. perfect lock up no movement up down or side to side, maybe 10% so lots of life left on that wedge bit of metal, razor sharp. Would never pay more than that for a knife so a great deal from my perspective. Not fair to sell them as originals though. Hard to say they're good value at 280 dollars, pretty much just throwing money away.
Yeah this was $236 haha
How are you screwed over? You should have gotten your money back from amazon.
Well originally I read on the page the company didn’t do refunds
@@cheaperthanyouthink2646 Yea, but they literally committed a crime. Amazon needs to refund you the money. You should also report the seller as fraud. If the seller and amazon will not refund you, go to your bank and have them charge back due to fraud.