Bought a bike this past winter and am taking the MSF this coming weekend. As a new rider, I appreciate each and every one of your videos. Practical, logical and assuring. Going to go from parking lot drills to the streets this week in prep for the course, thanks to confidence imparted by your vids. Much appreciated man!
Say Bro that MSF class is amazing I took that safety class to when I got my Gsxr 1000 and I'm riding safe and using the things I learned in that class to be a better rider..
This past winter? It’s spring now! U should be riding already. I had zero experience and brought a gsxr 750. No msf course and I ride daily and everywhere I go I go fast 😂 it’s really easier than people make it out to be 💯
The best thing I ever learned at the track was being able to brake in a corner to fix my radius, I swear there are no more scary corners on the road anymore. I cannot recommend champ school enough if you can afford it. You can brake with the front, the rear, reduce or increase throttle all while leaned over, dependent on context of course. Practice practice practice, start off slow and try breaking while leaned over, nice and smoothly, you'll be surprised how quickly you'll be able to tighten up the turn.
I wish that was preached more to beginners. There's just less margin for error, but in an instance where a new rider misjudged a turn, it makes way more sense to me to teach not to be afraid of the brake in an attempt to not yeet yourself off a cliff lol.
@@HeldIntegral Try driving in "Stralia" mate! (to be fair, most of our city roads aren't too bad. Country? The white lines might as well have been painted by a drunk gone walkabout through the scrub!)
This man's advice is top notch. People that ride bikes, snowboard, etc... get the cut/ grip. It's almost natural. Lean harder/ throttle less = better reaction from object in motion on a substrate...road/snow. It pushes the object into the substrate. Think of a speed bump. If you fly fast over it the vehicle barely recognizes it go slow and the connection is complete...you feel every up and down....as does said object.
I agree with you 100%. Fear is why new riders go wide, and you can see it in many crash videos. They start with a modest lean angle, then they realize that they're going wide, but they have absolutely no idea what to do about it. What happens next in those crash videos is that they'll stick their leg out (I guess because it works for the Flintstones?) and often they scream things in fear, but they do not change their speed or their lean angle (if anything, they do the opposite, straightening the bike). It also drives me crazy when people say that the front brake makes the bike go wide. No it doesn't! FEAR OF PRESSING THE INSIDE HANDLEBAR is what makes the bike go wide ! The front brake is a life saver, if used correctly. There's another misconception that one must roll on the throttle because of "traction". Again, that's simply wrong. Traction is determined by the laws of physics, in particular, the law of friction. In summary: You got everything 100% correct.
I agree with you on the fear of counter steering for more lean angle when going wide. I disagree with the not being on the throttle when in a turn, it lightly seats the bike back to 60/40 weight distribution (nominal) reducing the chance of the front wheel overloading. Twist of the wrist is worth watching if you haven’t seen it. ✌️ (Search twist of the wrist 2 movie on TH-cam)
@@PartyChicken407 but heres the thing. you dont actually want 60/40 distribution into the corner. grip to turn is determined by the front tire which guides the bike, you actually do want the front forks compressing into a corner and gradually decompressing out of the apex which is the function from trail braking. i would say the optimal weight distribution into a corner would be 40/60 into the corner up to the apex, the gradually turning it into 60/40 out of the apex.
@@luis_exotics - please don’t try and explain to me cornering physics and the utility of using throttle inputs to manage weight distribution when you just finished inferring that I don’t understand how to trail brake and you clearly aren’t aware of the teaching points in twist of the wrist and why it’s considered a bible for motorcycling for generations. Whatever… just ride safe. ✌️
@@PartyChicken407 I seen twist of the wrist multiple times I know exactly what you’re talking about. That’s old teachings already. Even in race car racing you want the front suspension being loaded into entry. Don’t get upset so easily part of riding is learning more and more not thinking you know it all. I Been riding sport bikes over a decade and I still search for knowledge.
I've definitely ran dangerously wide the first couple years I started riding. Like so bad I had to cross into oncoming traffic and go into the shoulder of the opposite lane. The main reason I did this was because I was going too fast and I was thinking about hitting the apex as soon as possible. Even when I learned to decrease speed into a turn and what delayed apexing was, I still ran wide because I was attacking turns early, unconsciously, because I was so focused on finding an apex. I had to train myself to stop looking for apexes altogether. Now I just hold the turn, while keeping the bike as straight as possible till I see the exit then go into a more aggressive counter steer, and once my bike is pointed where I want it to go I gradually roll onto the throttle to stand the bike back up. I can handle much more aggressive turns, much safer and faster now.
The thing with going into a corner too hot and not being sure if you can lean more and brake, is you don't have anything to lose. If you do nothing, you're going to crash anyway. May as well do what you can to ride out of it. I can't think of a reason to ever give up on a bike, other than it catching on fire and you have to jump off. Next time, work on not going in too hot.
This! I always see experienced rider says to might as well fully commit leaning and cornering since its safer that way so we "smoothly" crash than getting thrown over by the bike
I've only been riding 6 months, and I've stopped running wide, I actually wasn't sure what I was originally doing wrong. this video exsplains it really well. Going around corners I useto stay on the line I entered, now I'll brake more, turn more whatever is needed to go where I want.
Wish this video came out about 3 weeks ago because it’s the exact thing that would have helped keep me from wrecking. Love what you make though and definitely learning from my mistakes.
I love the informal & nuanced way you teach. You make it understandable for even seasoned riders to better understand what we are doing. I understand most things you say & you often give me better perspective of what I already understand & that’s priceless. Thank you!
The hard part is implementing these instructions when you are scared. Typically, you are frozen, and target fixated, creating a moment that is difficult to overcome. But you're right. Practice at speeds you are accustomed to from the start and gradually increasing speed will both help with the ability to practice these and prevent the issue in the first place.
Turn in...... late! This and the deceleration rather than freezing, (something I suffer from occasionally) - awesome, I can't wait to get back on my bike and try this. I don't want to be Rossi, I just want to have more confidence and less fear. This helps so much. Thank you.
The problem with msf courses is the entire course is taught in a parking lot. I remember my first time on the road and i was scared shitless bc msf class does not prepare you for real traffic esp if you're a true beginner like i was. Year later i commute to work everyday, highways etc no problem. But damn, learning to turn fast in real traffic (fresh out of msf class) was fucking terrifying. Now it's the funnest feeling ever.
I can speak from recent experience here - being a super experienced cyclist, but a super novice motorcyclist. I have had this issue of getting too wide on corner exits. And to me, it *feels* like the problem is: You can enter fine, but then you hesitate to commit, before you've reached the apex you were aiming for. The hesitation means the bike stands up. You're now going straight. You're fixated on the exit or how to bail, so you slow down or roll off the gas and the bike stands up even more. You're now rolling directly towards the ditch and you have no grip. An experienced rider would calculate a new curve, re-commit, lean and continue to exit the corner.. but a new rider (like me) freezes in fear and fixates on the ditch or tries to stop completely. At least, that's how it happens with me. But it's getting better.
I watched a video of yours lately that explained turning late. I did notice I was running wide and this was causing me issues, so I tried to apply what you taught. I think it worked, but it didn't quite make sense or feel natural. Now watching this video I applied this to being in a car. And the lightbulb went off straight away - it made perfect sense, I can't believe I would ever do it differently. And I think you are right, it is to do with fear and not trusting in my(our fellow learning riders) and my bike's ability to do that sharp quick lean that it a late turn requires.
I think part of it too is that people don't really understand (as a part of muscle memory) countersteering and when they are flowing at a angle through a turn, they are both scared to do anything and also start consciously thinking about steering. Frequently, in this situation, you need to countersteer in the turn. They don't know how to do that when suddenly thinking about that when the bike is at an angle, so they lock in everything and hope for the best. At most they might try to adjust lean angle only by literally leaning their body weight more which of course has the opposite effect they were going for (the bike stands up more) and the bike goes into the ditch. This is why this happens in long sweeping arches more frequently.
Thanks, is it me but you have a really soothing and comunicative voice, what a gift! Thank you for all the videos, reallly helped me on my first days riding
It puts a smile on my face seeing every new video you're posting , you're getting more subscribers. You are offering great advice and more people need to hear it!
Man I look at some of these videos of folks going off on a turn and I'm usually completely baffled. I'm not a professional at all but when I do see these I think exactly what you said...it must be fear.
Just cleared my MSF at the beginning of this month and watching you I realized that I should be letting off the throttle in these situations, what I was always doing is pulling in the clutch and adding or removing power as needed that way. A few times I also added light rear break, which I think accomplishes a similar thing.
really appreciate this video though I wish it had been posted before my first long ride a couple weeks back in which I crashed into a curb going wide in a roundabout a block from my apartment :)
Also very important for new riders. Don't ride with groups that are faster than you or try to prove something. The best case scenario is that you will be left behind.
your videos are super helpful,, dude i actually just realized this the other day ik stupid but its my first year riding and if i woulda seen this first it woulda helped but keep up your vids man ur gonna save someones life
You're a cool dude. Massive respect for just posting these and trying to help people. Going out and riding my bike is one of the best feelings in the world, so to have more people learn to ride safe and have that same fun experience puts a smile on my face. Wish you the best brother.❤
While I agree that fear is the cause of target fixation, input freezing and uncorrected premature entry, I'd contend that the cause of said fear is lack of input control, because of bad position and lack of core support of course, but mainly because of the lack of understanding of countersteering. Once you understand countersteering, trailbraking entries with late apexes are no problem anymore, and better input control follows.
Long year ago my friend unfortunately also wide turn because brain distraction (hes think about something while turned) and it caused bad injuries include leg and ribs fractures and thank God he's still breathing till now... I wish y'all don't think about anything while you ride or drive it's really dangerous just stay focused and enjoy the road
Great vid. As a new rider i’ve found that the line you choose is extremely important. I realised this after riding behind some extremely skilled riders that were going up a mountain at a slow pace. While trying to track their lines I found that the bike would lean “naturally”. In the beginning I was wrestling the bike into a lean because I would steer in too early and not counter steer nearly enough. After some practice I’ve found that my problem was never the lean, but that I was picking lines that were too tight and didn’t facilitate the natural lean of the bike.
I didn’t realize it until you pointed it out but you’re 100% right about what is causing the beginner fear. Personally my fear came from all the info I absorbed telling you can’t brake, accelerate and shift in turns- while yes you don’t want to do anything to ‘scare’ your suspension or abruptly change inputs..but realistically the 2 gyroscopes under you will keep you up so long as you let them travel smoothly. Awesome video dude, I know this will help make it click for a lot of people.
I brake, throttle or change leanangle midturn if needed. But smooth 😊 You never know what new roads offers, gravel, tractors, children or trees you name it. ALLWAYS be prepared to break/stop!
Doing a great job at explaining the dynamics and the trajectory of the bike on the turns so don't think that you're overexplaining, i'm used to ride in the South Island of New Zealand where the roads are extremly windy so i used to overthink all this dynamics and practice untill i got the hang of it but still there's a lot to learn.
only thing I would add to this is you can add more lean and aggressively too if your bike is in good shape I.E. good tires you don't know how many beginner or intermediate riders I've ridden with or bike swapped with that have crappy cupped worn tires or low tire pressure
You failed to mention the most important skills for cornering: visual. What to look at, how to look, when to look at it and when to move the focus, how wide of a visual field do you process are all key ingredients and some of the more difficult to master. That's why the California Superbike School curriculum begins with two full days of throttle control and visual skills training. They teach the theory, the techniques and then you drill it over and over in structured exercises supervised by a pro coach. Target fixation usually starts with looking in the wrong place and with the wrong width of focus. When you become uncomfortable with what you see and the general situation, you tend to tighten up, especially your arms, shoulders and grip on the handlebars. This tension is what prevents further steering input, more focus on the target, and ultimately the wide turn and crash. It requires considerable practice and time to counteract what are generally innate survival responses.
I thought it was when they go to let off the lean and loose traction. I lean the bike and and counter balance with my body opposite of the lean. This keeps most of your body weight over the tires. I had a bad habit of kicking out a foot like a dirt bike. And the counter balance lean keeps me looking in the correct direction and from kicking the foot out. It's like the only way I can do a one lane u turn.
one take is all you need man, your knowledge is all that matters, if you think you've gotten off track with your explanations you can just say something like, let me restart or something like that. I think you're doing awesome ❤ thanks for the content!
I think another thing that has to do with the fear factor for new riders is the feeling of leaning in general. Most times new riders think they’re leaning but really are barely leaning at all. It can be a pretty jarring feeling to lean sufficiently, and I can see how many can kind of shy away from it. I had to get used to it myself by just practicing U-turns in a parking lot, and feeling what it was like to lean the bike more and more. After some time I realized what the bike is actually capable of and how much I was afraid to go there because it felt awkward.
let off throttle lean harder lol. this is why i strongly advocate the sv650 as a beginner bike, letting off the throttle allows for that strong v twin engine braking to slow you down so much that if youre in a panic and cant apply front brakes that it could potentially still be enough to save your hide in a poorly executed turn.
Great video, even with the editing hickups. One thing I'd like to add as a factor for some newbies' feeling of "oh no I can't add lean angle" is a tendency to fall back into stiff, locked-elbow arms - at that point your corner-outside arm will resist the input from the other hand pushing the bike down, and you're literally fightibg your own arm strength over trying to stay in the turn! That can really feel as if you've reached some sort of angle limitation, when I was a new rider I actually thought to get your knee down, you'd need to basically do that initial turn-in very violently to overcome that weird resistance 😂... that is because for me, even starting out with a more correct arm posture, the locked elbows would easily return during the ride after a bit of braking or going downhill - so that was usually in the mid of a twisty section. Way to get through that for myself and find the next ceiling was to simply try short lean corrections mid-turn in everyday turns, rememberin that feeling, and actively going through a mental checklist to bring my head just slightly (like 5 or 10cm) forward and towards the corner inside, which would auto-correct the locked elbows. Also, the biggest relief was when I noticed I could still use the front brake in a corner while leaned. Really gave me back that feelibg of "if there's a problem, I can do somethibg about it" that was otherwise lacking and feeling terrifying - and I guess rightly so, if that was a car one could say I was basically entering all turns with unusable brakes and a steering wheel that would only move 1/8th of a turn, just hoping I'd somehow make it! Oh, one more thing for newbies: Regularly check your tire pressures at gas stops, if they are underinflated that will very.much contribute to a feeling of the bike not being willing or able to lean more!
You could even practice on a bicycle to build confidence. My first time I rode a bike, I really struggled with turning because I want counter steering correctly. Rode a bicycle to refresh myself, came back, and I was able to steer much more effectively. A bicycle has the same turning fundamentals. It's just slower, self powered, and lighter.
Learn to look through the corners as well, takes away from the fear of losing traction or not making a turn. Been a huge help for me. Also light rear brake is hugely helpful if you're mid corner and find yourself cookin a little too much
I noticed something the other day... if you go through a turn at a reasonable speed, you can quite easily stay in the center of the lane through the whole turn without any effort at all. If you're doing anything else going through a turn, (i.e. slowing down, going wide, going narrow, going wide) you're probably going through it way to fast. I would say 90% of the motorcycle crashes I see on YT can be attributed ultimately to people... just going to fast. Slow down. Seriously, slow the F down. Across the board. The faster you go, the shorter your reaction window, the longer your braking distance. Slow down. Expand your distances between you and everything else greatly.
Can you do a video about reaching tire limits and what the signs are that you're close? I've only been riding about six months and have never been close to the limits (that I know of), but I've been thinking about it and I don't know how to safely tell when I'm close to the limit of mechanical grip. I have tracked cars a long time ago, and am very familiar with how to find the limit of grip in a car, but it seems to me that my method in a car would be dangerous on a bike, especially for someone new, like me. I don't want to induce any kind of slide at my skill level. I also don't want to use just 50% of my grip when I have a lot more to play with. BTW, I have naturally picked up on everything you spoke about here, and have been practicing it, but wasn't sure if that was the correct method. This video confirms that I'm on the right track.
Where in GA is this beautiful place. Once I get some riding experience I would love to take a ride on countryside / mountain roads. Do you ride the clutch on those turns?
Can you please do a video on your vlog setup more specifically your helmet setup, I really want to do the same to mine at least for personal logs. Much appreciated for the content
Another common cause is looking back at your buddy then realizing you're an inch from the curb😂 almost ate shit going 60 because I looked back to tell my boy to wheelie and bounced off the curb😂
This is correct 💯 Target fixation almost cost me a wipe out I arrived at the turn faster than anticipated fortunately I leaned out of it For me it's not fear it's a lack of experience Uncertainty in the corner what can and what can't I do What can I get away it etc... I take the same route on some mountain roads with long radius turns Gradually building speed on each approach. Question? Do you counter steer into lean? Or just lean With my sport bike I'm counter steering more than ever The body position is completely different to anything I had in the past.
Counter steering is inducing lean, impossible to do one without the other. But definitely steering only, impossible to shift weight over quick and smooth enough mid turn to effect turn radius in any meaningful way or to not disrupt suspension. If you had higher bars prior the reason you could "lean" rather than steer is you had better leverage on the bars so positioning shoulders over would more easily/unconsciously push the bar. Try getting your forearms more parallel to the ground and elbows tucked and bent so you push with your tris and turning will feel a lot better with those clip ons 🙂
My friend crashed his Ducati in a turn by going to wide. 50mph into concrete divider but he had a full track suit on and didn’t get hurt just bruises. Gnarly
Nope just steering harder, once leaned your body needs to be about glued to how you entered until reducing lean again because suspension can be so easily disrupted with bodyweight
Push the handlebars even further to create more lean. He is saying that you shouldn't be afraid to create more lean mid-turn. As long as you don't hit the brake, your bike will keep traction and allow you to add more lean angle.
Keep in mind this is all at street speed and leam angle* You may be thinking of the idea of never downshift while leaned due to the risk of locking that rear, or the idea you never add power while increasing lean, both of which can very quickly break rear traction and cause a low side. The risk of breaking traction through deceleration + adding lean from either brake is a risk, and where the idea of "points of grip" comes from. However engine braking alone while keeping that gear the same is insanely forgiving in how it shifts weight and keeps that rear rolling and planted on the ground I highly suggest the straight road deceleration through engine braking only and playing with the steering I mention and I think it'll make a lot more sense when you feel how your bike is responding 🙂
I see you're riding a Suzuki. If you were riding the Yamaha MT 03, MT07, MT09, or MT10 in the Cyan Storm paint trim, it would match your riding gloves.
It can be fear, however, the root cause is not looking ahead. You touched on it by saying “target fixation”, however the this is caused by not looking far enough ahead. Making small corrections is a good tool for reaction purposes, and understand what the bike will do should something go wrong. But looking ahead will solve almost everything. The bike goes where you look right? If a very abrupt correction is needed…that would suggest you are not looking far enough ahead. Especially with maintenance speed, watch professional riders and how far they look ahead in corners, it applies exactly the same. Disregarding line choices, because they come in wide and enter tight, leaning hard and then to stand the bike back up requires heavy throttle. But looking FAR ahead will improve literally everything.
You demonstrate this many many times by saying “noticing how youre going towards the white line” where are you looking? The white line, the natural reaction would be to fixate then closer to the motorcycle, and trying to avoid the white line, which makes you look at where you do NOT want to go, and the consequence is that unfortunately because thats where youre looking, thats where you end up going. The solution is the opposite. Look further ahead, and let the bike take you where your eyes are looking. What if there was no white line? Then you would be forced to look where you want to go, rather than where you do not. Which further drives home that looking ahead at where you want to go, at the speed you are traveling at, you are not only riding safer (because you have more reaction time), but youre focusing on where you want to go, instead of where you dont. Which takes away the fear. Start slow, and work up as you build confidence. But always always always be looking ahead, way further ahead than you think.
can you make a video on how to slow down properly when approaching a red light or a stop when you are going rather fast or just normally slowing down smoothly, i ride a 300 so i think theres more gear shifts but its probably similar
People has too much expectation with MSF course, they can only do MSF training in the Parking lot, so what you learn is just parking survival, the rest is yours to know and learn. MSF has its place for new riders.
Bro I can tell that what youre doing is scary.. But yeah it's correct reduce or maintain slow speed then add lean angle and don't oppose the lean of the bike to avoid hindsiding.
Where were you a year ago? I lowsided around a curve going too fast. I had the bike pretty much all the way lent over and, following the advice given by my instructor, I just lent it over even more. Turns out bikes can't go 90 degrees lol I researched a ton online, and everyone always says to not mess with the throttle. I had it in my head that the only thing I could do if I didn't trail brake first was to add more lean angle. Had I know that I could've just rolled off a bit, I probably wouldn't of went wide but lesson learned lol ps. Love the content. I loved the vid you did about what a litre bike is actually like at slow speeds. I haven't seen anyone else actually explain what 1st gear actually is like on one of those. Explains a lot of videos of guys looping their bikes on takeoff
First note is Gsxr1000r is worth the extra money for the suspension over the standard gsxr1000 imo. The zx10r I'd argue is the more feature rich user friendly 1000 for the money. Bmw 2nd place. Kawi's ability to consistently make bikes with no major pros or cons is fascinating honestly. But, and this is a big but, the gsxr has that suzuki touch, the engine is the most street friendly of any of the inline 4's with the vvt. This thing feels punchier from 3-8k rpm than any of the others by a mile. Its also weighted lower so it feels extremely light between the legs. But at a cost haha, gsxr has the worst vibration of any of them. The rsv4 is the only bike that I feel beats the gsxr in terms of street friendly low to mid range.
@@skyoom1 Great information! Much appreciated! Did not know about the midrange punch which would be key as that rev range is used all the time. Did not know that about the RSV4 too. Props!
Thanks for making such practical videos. Would you be able to make one one taking a right turn (without stopping) at an intersection? I always struggle with this especially when to slow down, downshift, and feather the clutch in the turn. I have a 300cc so i am usually on 3/4 gear before approaching a right turn.
Id bet you're downshifting later than necessary and then trying to kick down gears last sec. Kick down gears the second you start to slow down and dont be worried about letting the rpm float higher. Sounds like you may be rolling through slow enough its bogging engine and youre using clutch to hide the gear being too high for the speed 🙂
Why are you so afraid of gravel? If you're going in a straight line it doesn't matter at all which speed you're taking it at. Also, why do you pull in the clutch in the hairpin turn?
Hes just being safe? You can definitely be going straight, and lose control because of accelerating over gravel or similar debris. The same way that ppl have lost control while accelerating over wet, painted areas.
Based on the quality of the roads you ride on I sometimes wonder if you live in a third world country😂 I know there are gsxr off road bikes out there but I've never seen one in a stock standard road bike frame! I'm waiting for the next video...How to race motocross with your gixer!
Not dumb at all! It requires constant pressure on the bar to keep the bike leaned over so depending on what you're doing you just remove pressure from the bar and the bike will stand up as pressure is removed. If you need to lean the other way you begin pushing with the opposite hand and adjust from there for turn/lean needs.
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Bought a bike this past winter and am taking the MSF this coming weekend. As a new rider, I appreciate each and every one of your videos. Practical, logical and assuring. Going to go from parking lot drills to the streets this week in prep for the course, thanks to confidence imparted by your vids. Much appreciated man!
Say Bro that MSF class is amazing I took that safety class to when I got my Gsxr 1000 and I'm riding safe and using the things I learned in that class to be a better rider..
This past winter? It’s spring now! U should be riding already. I had zero experience and brought a gsxr 750. No msf course and I ride daily and everywhere I go I go fast 😂 it’s really easier than people make it out to be 💯
@@splashmobpgtae1330but can you handle the bike below 10mph?
@@ms_vive8426 Good Question! :D
@@splashmobpgtae1330 Some people use their brains before doing things. Chill.
The best thing I ever learned at the track was being able to brake in a corner to fix my radius, I swear there are no more scary corners on the road anymore. I cannot recommend champ school enough if you can afford it.
You can brake with the front, the rear, reduce or increase throttle all while leaned over, dependent on context of course.
Practice practice practice, start off slow and try breaking while leaned over, nice and smoothly, you'll be surprised how quickly you'll be able to tighten up the turn.
Braking mid turn is a life saver. Without it, there's no safe way to corner quickly.
I wish that was preached more to beginners. There's just less margin for error, but in an instance where a new rider misjudged a turn, it makes way more sense to me to teach not to be afraid of the brake in an attempt to not yeet yourself off a cliff lol.
I only use rear brake unless I want to come to a complete stop fast
Ive already saved myself from a few crashes by being able to break mid corner and not panicking.
Champ school is fantastic. I buy the course for anybody I know getting into riding.
This is super useful for New Zealand where we have super-talented road builders who can make corners that tighten up in both directions...
Nz roads are filthy. I have 0 faith. Potholes, gravel, dead bodies, broken bottles. 🙈
The amount of times I've had to dodge some bs on the road
@@HeldIntegral Try driving in "Stralia" mate! (to be fair, most of our city roads aren't too bad. Country? The white lines might as well have been painted by a drunk gone walkabout through the scrub!)
@@OhSoddit i also cant imagine being torched by the Australian sun for the majority of the day is good for the asphalt either
This man's advice is top notch. People that ride bikes, snowboard, etc... get the cut/ grip. It's almost natural. Lean harder/ throttle less = better reaction from object in motion on a substrate...road/snow. It pushes the object into the substrate. Think of a speed bump. If you fly fast over it the vehicle barely recognizes it go slow and the connection is complete...you feel every up and down....as does said object.
I agree with you 100%. Fear is why new riders go wide, and you can see it in many crash videos. They start with a modest lean angle, then they realize that they're going wide, but they have absolutely no idea what to do about it. What happens next in those crash videos is that they'll stick their leg out (I guess because it works for the Flintstones?) and often they scream things in fear, but they do not change their speed or their lean angle (if anything, they do the opposite, straightening the bike).
It also drives me crazy when people say that the front brake makes the bike go wide. No it doesn't!
FEAR OF PRESSING THE INSIDE HANDLEBAR is what makes the bike go wide !
The front brake is a life saver, if used correctly.
There's another misconception that one must roll on the throttle because of "traction". Again, that's simply wrong. Traction is determined by the laws of physics, in particular, the law of friction.
In summary: You got everything 100% correct.
I agree with you on the fear of counter steering for more lean angle when going wide. I disagree with the not being on the throttle when in a turn, it lightly seats the bike back to 60/40 weight distribution (nominal) reducing the chance of the front wheel overloading.
Twist of the wrist is worth watching if you haven’t seen it. ✌️
(Search twist of the wrist 2 movie on TH-cam)
@@PartyChicken407 but heres the thing. you dont actually want 60/40 distribution into the corner. grip to turn is determined by the front tire which guides the bike, you actually do want the front forks compressing into a corner and gradually decompressing out of the apex which is the function from trail braking. i would say the optimal weight distribution into a corner would be 40/60 into the corner up to the apex, the gradually turning it into 60/40 out of the apex.
@@luis_exotics - please don’t try and explain to me cornering physics and the utility of using throttle inputs to manage weight distribution when you just finished inferring that I don’t understand how to trail brake and you clearly aren’t aware of the teaching points in twist of the wrist and why it’s considered a bible for motorcycling for generations.
Whatever… just ride safe. ✌️
@@PartyChicken407thanks for the recommendation!
@@PartyChicken407 I seen twist of the wrist multiple times I know exactly what you’re talking about. That’s old teachings already. Even in race car racing you want the front suspension being loaded into entry. Don’t get upset so easily part of riding is learning more and more not thinking you know it all. I Been riding sport bikes over a decade and I still search for knowledge.
I've definitely ran dangerously wide the first couple years I started riding. Like so bad I had to cross into oncoming traffic and go into the shoulder of the opposite lane.
The main reason I did this was because I was going too fast and I was thinking about hitting the apex as soon as possible. Even when I learned to decrease speed into a turn and what delayed apexing was, I still ran wide because I was attacking turns early, unconsciously, because I was so focused on finding an apex.
I had to train myself to stop looking for apexes altogether. Now I just hold the turn, while keeping the bike as straight as possible till I see the exit then go into a more aggressive counter steer, and once my bike is pointed where I want it to go I gradually roll onto the throttle to stand the bike back up. I can handle much more aggressive turns, much safer and faster now.
You nailed it brother. You learned that fixing your issue is looking “through the corner” at where you want to go. Looking further ahead. Nice work 🤘🏻
The thing with going into a corner too hot and not being sure if you can lean more and brake, is you don't have anything to lose. If you do nothing, you're going to crash anyway. May as well do what you can to ride out of it. I can't think of a reason to ever give up on a bike, other than it catching on fire and you have to jump off.
Next time, work on not going in too hot.
Haha double your bet
This! I always see experienced rider says to might as well fully commit leaning and cornering since its safer that way so we "smoothly" crash than getting thrown over by the bike
been riding for 13 years and you have helped me in my never ending search for riding knowledge. appreciate it man
I've only been riding 6 months, and I've stopped running wide, I actually wasn't sure what I was originally doing wrong. this video exsplains it really well. Going around corners I useto stay on the line I entered, now I'll brake more, turn more whatever is needed to go where I want.
Wish this video came out about 3 weeks ago because it’s the exact thing that would have helped keep me from wrecking. Love what you make though and definitely learning from my mistakes.
Glad you're good man
I love the informal & nuanced way you teach. You make it understandable for even seasoned riders to better understand what we are doing. I understand most things you say & you often give me better perspective of what I already understand & that’s priceless. Thank you!
The hard part is implementing these instructions when you are scared. Typically, you are frozen, and target fixated, creating a moment that is difficult to overcome. But you're right. Practice at speeds you are accustomed to from the start and gradually increasing speed will both help with the ability to practice these and prevent the issue in the first place.
Eyes up look where you want to go, That simple tip cures alot of bad cornering habits.
First season rider, this helped correct mistakes I made on my first few riding sessions, thanks!
Turn in...... late! This and the deceleration rather than freezing, (something I suffer from occasionally) - awesome, I can't wait to get back on my bike and try this. I don't want to be Rossi, I just want to have more confidence and less fear. This helps so much. Thank you.
"and the prayers went unanswered" 🤣
The problem with msf courses is the entire course is taught in a parking lot. I remember my first time on the road and i was scared shitless bc msf class does not prepare you for real traffic esp if you're a true beginner like i was. Year later i commute to work everyday, highways etc no problem. But damn, learning to turn fast in real traffic (fresh out of msf class) was fucking terrifying. Now it's the funnest feeling ever.
Concise and practical. I really like what you do. ❤
I can speak from recent experience here - being a super experienced cyclist, but a super novice motorcyclist.
I have had this issue of getting too wide on corner exits. And to me, it *feels* like the problem is:
You can enter fine, but then you hesitate to commit, before you've reached the apex you were aiming for.
The hesitation means the bike stands up. You're now going straight. You're fixated on the exit or how to bail, so you slow down or roll off the gas and the bike stands up even more. You're now rolling directly towards the ditch and you have no grip.
An experienced rider would calculate a new curve, re-commit, lean and continue to exit the corner.. but a new rider (like me) freezes in fear and fixates on the ditch or tries to stop completely.
At least, that's how it happens with me.
But it's getting better.
You will get passed it, after a while if you dont ride crazy you will fix "problems" without thinking.
But you will get a adrenalin rush 😊
Very well explained sir. I always say you have to respect the bike, but never fear it.
you're going to help so many new and experienced riders.
thank you
I watched a video of yours lately that explained turning late. I did notice I was running wide and this was causing me issues, so I tried to apply what you taught. I think it worked, but it didn't quite make sense or feel natural. Now watching this video I applied this to being in a car. And the lightbulb went off straight away - it made perfect sense, I can't believe I would ever do it differently. And I think you are right, it is to do with fear and not trusting in my(our fellow learning riders) and my bike's ability to do that sharp quick lean that it a late turn requires.
I think part of it too is that people don't really understand (as a part of muscle memory) countersteering and when they are flowing at a angle through a turn, they are both scared to do anything and also start consciously thinking about steering. Frequently, in this situation, you need to countersteer in the turn. They don't know how to do that when suddenly thinking about that when the bike is at an angle, so they lock in everything and hope for the best. At most they might try to adjust lean angle only by literally leaning their body weight more which of course has the opposite effect they were going for (the bike stands up more) and the bike goes into the ditch. This is why this happens in long sweeping arches more frequently.
Keep doing it your way, it’s refreshing. With the irregular ending 😂👌🏼 it’s cool, you keep people on their toes doing that 🤣
Thanks! You are the only one that makes it easy to understand unlike other TH-camrs who teach this things. 👏 great content
My prayers were answered when you started making videos.
Thanks, is it me but you have a really soothing and comunicative voice, what a gift! Thank you for all the videos, reallly helped me on my first days riding
It puts a smile on my face seeing every new video you're posting , you're getting more subscribers. You are offering great advice and more people need to hear it!
Man I look at some of these videos of folks going off on a turn and I'm usually completely baffled. I'm not a professional at all but when I do see these I think exactly what you said...it must be fear.
Just cleared my MSF at the beginning of this month and watching you I realized that I should be letting off the throttle in these situations, what I was always doing is pulling in the clutch and adding or removing power as needed that way. A few times I also added light rear break, which I think accomplishes a similar thing.
really appreciate this video though I wish it had been posted before my first long ride a couple weeks back in which I crashed into a curb going wide in a roundabout a block from my apartment :)
😂 glad youre alright man
Also very important for new riders. Don't ride with groups that are faster than you or try to prove something. The best case scenario is that you will be left behind.
Ride your own ride!
Easy said, way harder to live by! 😊
maintain steady throttle in terms of not accelerating hard until the bike starts to stand up. Steady throttle gives the best traction.
That's kind of the opposite of the message in this video.
No get off throttle and onto brakes
@@mhoeij if ur not running wide then thats the best course of action. If you are then obviously you need to do some inputs to correct it
@@schwifty7996 If you're not running wide then what are you fixing with steady throttle?
@@aluisious Nothing Im saying keeping smoothe throttle will give you the best traction going through corners
Hey bro love the videos!
And truth! When I started riding I had a minor crash. Target fixation!!
Anyway keep the videos coming! Tones of info!
I never realized I was correcting so many wide turns naturally as a newer rider just based on feel and not fighting against my bike. Awesome video!
your videos are super helpful,, dude i actually just realized this the other day ik stupid but its my first year riding and if i woulda seen this first it woulda helped but keep up your vids man ur gonna save someones life
You're a cool dude. Massive respect for just posting these and trying to help people. Going out and riding my bike is one of the best feelings in the world, so to have more people learn to ride safe and have that same fun experience puts a smile on my face. Wish you the best brother.❤
While I agree that fear is the cause of target fixation, input freezing and uncorrected premature entry, I'd contend that the cause of said fear is lack of input control, because of bad position and lack of core support of course, but mainly because of the lack of understanding of countersteering.
Once you understand countersteering, trailbraking entries with late apexes are no problem anymore, and better input control follows.
Long year ago my friend unfortunately also wide turn because brain distraction (hes think about something while turned) and it caused bad injuries include leg and ribs fractures and thank God he's still breathing till now... I wish y'all don't think about anything while you ride or drive it's really dangerous just stay focused and enjoy the road
Great vid. As a new rider i’ve found that the line you choose is extremely important. I realised this after riding behind some extremely skilled riders that were going up a mountain at a slow pace. While trying to track their lines I found that the bike would lean “naturally”. In the beginning I was wrestling the bike into a lean because I would steer in too early and not counter steer nearly enough. After some practice I’ve found that my problem was never the lean, but that I was picking lines that were too tight and didn’t facilitate the natural lean of the bike.
Good vid, another easy one is just dab the rear brake a bit, you don't need to change anything else and the line immediately tightens.
I didn’t realize it until you pointed it out but you’re 100% right about what is causing the beginner fear. Personally my fear came from all the info I absorbed telling you can’t brake, accelerate and shift in turns- while yes you don’t want to do anything to ‘scare’ your suspension or abruptly change inputs..but realistically the 2 gyroscopes under you will keep you up so long as you let them travel smoothly. Awesome video dude, I know this will help make it click for a lot of people.
I brake, throttle or change leanangle midturn if needed.
But smooth 😊
You never know what new roads offers, gravel, tractors, children or trees you name it.
ALLWAYS be prepared to break/stop!
Doing a great job at explaining the dynamics and the trajectory of the bike on the turns so don't think that you're overexplaining, i'm used to ride in the South Island of New Zealand where the roads are extremly windy so i used to overthink all this dynamics and practice untill i got the hang of it but still there's a lot to learn.
only thing I would add to this is you can add more lean and aggressively too if your bike is in good shape I.E. good tires you don't know how many beginner or intermediate riders I've ridden with or bike swapped with that have crappy cupped worn tires or low tire pressure
You failed to mention the most important skills for cornering: visual. What to look at, how to look, when to look at it and when to move the focus, how wide of a visual field do you process are all key ingredients and some of the more difficult to master. That's why the California Superbike School curriculum begins with two full days of throttle control and visual skills training. They teach the theory, the techniques and then you drill it over and over in structured exercises supervised by a pro coach.
Target fixation usually starts with looking in the wrong place and with the wrong width of focus. When you become uncomfortable with what you see and the general situation, you tend to tighten up, especially your arms, shoulders and grip on the handlebars. This tension is what prevents further steering input, more focus on the target, and ultimately the wide turn and crash.
It requires considerable practice and time to counteract what are generally innate survival responses.
Nailed it with fear of adding inputs mid corner. Great video!
I am a new subscriber and I really enjoy and appreciate your content, great job!
I thought it was when they go to let off the lean and loose traction. I lean the bike and and counter balance with my body opposite of the lean. This keeps most of your body weight over the tires. I had a bad habit of kicking out a foot like a dirt bike. And the counter balance lean keeps me looking in the correct direction and from kicking the foot out. It's like the only way I can do a one lane u turn.
U turn that's great, at speed you'll be forced to lean the bike more counter leaning to make the same turn which can get you into trouble
Really good analysis of the problem and demonstration of solutions.
one take is all you need man, your knowledge is all that matters, if you think you've gotten off track with your explanations you can just say something like, let me restart or something like that.
I think you're doing awesome ❤ thanks for the content!
Oh man and I was always adding on throttle and lean in this sort of situations lol. I have to try this on some quiet road.
I think another thing that has to do with the fear factor for new riders is the feeling of leaning in general. Most times new riders think they’re leaning but really are barely leaning at all. It can be a pretty jarring feeling to lean sufficiently, and I can see how many can kind of shy away from it. I had to get used to it myself by just practicing U-turns in a parking lot, and feeling what it was like to lean the bike more and more. After some time I realized what the bike is actually capable of and how much I was afraid to go there because it felt awkward.
Bro be reading all our minds in these videos 😂 please keep ‘em coming
let off throttle lean harder lol. this is why i strongly advocate the sv650 as a beginner bike, letting off the throttle allows for that strong v twin engine braking to slow you down so much that if youre in a panic and cant apply front brakes that it could potentially still be enough to save your hide in a poorly executed turn.
Had my first wreck a few days ago. Didn't run wide in a turn though. Got cut off after driver pulled out of a parking lot and crossed 3 lanes.
Great content. Thank you!!!
Great video, even with the editing hickups. One thing I'd like to add as a factor for some newbies' feeling of "oh no I can't add lean angle" is a tendency to fall back into stiff, locked-elbow arms - at that point your corner-outside arm will resist the input from the other hand pushing the bike down, and you're literally fightibg your own arm strength over trying to stay in the turn! That can really feel as if you've reached some sort of angle limitation, when I was a new rider I actually thought to get your knee down, you'd need to basically do that initial turn-in very violently to overcome that weird resistance 😂... that is because for me, even starting out with a more correct arm posture, the locked elbows would easily return during the ride after a bit of braking or going downhill - so that was usually in the mid of a twisty section. Way to get through that for myself and find the next ceiling was to simply try short lean corrections mid-turn in everyday turns, rememberin that feeling, and actively going through a mental checklist to bring my head just slightly (like 5 or 10cm) forward and towards the corner inside, which would auto-correct the locked elbows. Also, the biggest relief was when I noticed I could still use the front brake in a corner while leaned. Really gave me back that feelibg of "if there's a problem, I can do somethibg about it" that was otherwise lacking and feeling terrifying - and I guess rightly so, if that was a car one could say I was basically entering all turns with unusable brakes and a steering wheel that would only move 1/8th of a turn, just hoping I'd somehow make it! Oh, one more thing for newbies: Regularly check your tire pressures at gas stops, if they are underinflated that will very.much contribute to a feeling of the bike not being willing or able to lean more!
Now i feel like an idiot. I need to practice easing off the throttle in corners to get over my lose of traction thoughts.
You could even practice on a bicycle to build confidence. My first time I rode a bike, I really struggled with turning because I want counter steering correctly. Rode a bicycle to refresh myself, came back, and I was able to steer much more effectively.
A bicycle has the same turning fundamentals. It's just slower, self powered, and lighter.
Learn to look through the corners as well, takes away from the fear of losing traction or not making a turn. Been a huge help for me. Also light rear brake is hugely helpful if you're mid corner and find yourself cookin a little too much
Man glad I came across this video I’ve been turning early
I noticed something the other day... if you go through a turn at a reasonable speed, you can quite easily stay in the center of the lane through the whole turn without any effort at all.
If you're doing anything else going through a turn, (i.e. slowing down, going wide, going narrow, going wide) you're probably going through it way to fast.
I would say 90% of the motorcycle crashes I see on YT can be attributed ultimately to people... just going to fast. Slow down. Seriously, slow the F down. Across the board. The faster you go, the shorter your reaction window, the longer your braking distance. Slow down. Expand your distances between you and everything else greatly.
I am simple man. I see Skyoom video I hit like.
This guy is just the best for beginner riders
Can you do a video about reaching tire limits and what the signs are that you're close?
I've only been riding about six months and have never been close to the limits (that I know of), but I've been thinking about it and I don't know how to safely tell when I'm close to the limit of mechanical grip. I have tracked cars a long time ago, and am very familiar with how to find the limit of grip in a car, but it seems to me that my method in a car would be dangerous on a bike, especially for someone new, like me. I don't want to induce any kind of slide at my skill level. I also don't want to use just 50% of my grip when I have a lot more to play with.
BTW, I have naturally picked up on everything you spoke about here, and have been practicing it, but wasn't sure if that was the correct method. This video confirms that I'm on the right track.
Where in GA is this beautiful place. Once I get some riding experience I would love to take a ride on countryside / mountain roads. Do you ride the clutch on those turns?
Awesome video man, thank you for this
Can you please do a video on your vlog setup more specifically your helmet setup, I really want to do the same to mine at least for personal logs. Much appreciated for the content
Those gloves are sweet man
Bison brand
Another common cause is looking back at your buddy then realizing you're an inch from the curb😂 almost ate shit going 60 because I looked back to tell my boy to wheelie and bounced off the curb😂
turning in too early is my bad habit
Steering- low speeds vs higher speeds video next 🙏
This is correct 💯
Target fixation almost cost me a wipe out I arrived at the turn faster than anticipated fortunately I leaned out of it
For me it's not fear it's a lack of experience
Uncertainty in the corner what can and what can't I do
What can I get away it etc...
I take the same route on some mountain roads with long radius turns
Gradually building speed on each approach.
Question? Do you counter steer into lean? Or just lean
With my sport bike I'm counter steering more than ever
The body position is completely different to anything I had in the past.
Counter steering is inducing lean, impossible to do one without the other. But definitely steering only, impossible to shift weight over quick and smooth enough mid turn to effect turn radius in any meaningful way or to not disrupt suspension.
If you had higher bars prior the reason you could "lean" rather than steer is you had better leverage on the bars so positioning shoulders over would more easily/unconsciously push the bar. Try getting your forearms more parallel to the ground and elbows tucked and bent so you push with your tris and turning will feel a lot better with those clip ons 🙂
My friend crashed his Ducati in a turn by going to wide. 50mph into concrete divider but he had a full track suit on and didn’t get hurt just bruises. Gnarly
Or or just know that if you're close enough to the speed limit you'll have a better chance at making the turn lol
appreciated as always brotha
Are you adding more lean by body position (leaning off the bike further) or counter steering or both?
Nope just steering harder, once leaned your body needs to be about glued to how you entered until reducing lean again because suspension can be so easily disrupted with bodyweight
@@skyoom1 thank you
Answer this: When already in a turn, you would lean your body over more,without changing the suspension? You don’t re- counter steer.
Push the handlebars even further to create more lean. He is saying that you shouldn't be afraid to create more lean mid-turn.
As long as you don't hit the brake, your bike will keep traction and allow you to add more lean angle.
The road was like no, son. You don't remember my power (The anime HAHA)
But wouldn’t cutting power AND increasing the lean angle make you more susceptible to low side crashes?
Keep in mind this is all at street speed and leam angle*
You may be thinking of the idea of never downshift while leaned due to the risk of locking that rear, or the idea you never add power while increasing lean, both of which can very quickly break rear traction and cause a low side.
The risk of breaking traction through deceleration + adding lean from either brake is a risk, and where the idea of "points of grip" comes from. However engine braking alone while keeping that gear the same is insanely forgiving in how it shifts weight and keeps that rear rolling and planted on the ground
I highly suggest the straight road deceleration through engine braking only and playing with the steering I mention and I think it'll make a lot more sense when you feel how your bike is responding 🙂
I see you're riding a Suzuki. If you were riding the Yamaha MT 03, MT07, MT09, or MT10 in the Cyan Storm paint trim, it would match your riding gloves.
It can be fear, however, the root cause is not looking ahead. You touched on it by saying “target fixation”, however the this is caused by not looking far enough ahead. Making small corrections is a good tool for reaction purposes, and understand what the bike will do should something go wrong. But looking ahead will solve almost everything. The bike goes where you look right? If a very abrupt correction is needed…that would suggest you are not looking far enough ahead.
Especially with maintenance speed, watch professional riders and how far they look ahead in corners, it applies exactly the same. Disregarding line choices, because they come in wide and enter tight, leaning hard and then to stand the bike back up requires heavy throttle.
But looking FAR ahead will improve literally everything.
You demonstrate this many many times by saying “noticing how youre going towards the white line” where are you looking? The white line, the natural reaction would be to fixate then closer to the motorcycle, and trying to avoid the white line, which makes you look at where you do NOT want to go, and the consequence is that unfortunately because thats where youre looking, thats where you end up going. The solution is the opposite. Look further ahead, and let the bike take you where your eyes are looking. What if there was no white line? Then you would be forced to look where you want to go, rather than where you do not. Which further drives home that looking ahead at where you want to go, at the speed you are traveling at, you are not only riding safer (because you have more reaction time), but youre focusing on where you want to go, instead of where you dont. Which takes away the fear. Start slow, and work up as you build confidence. But always always always be looking ahead, way further ahead than you think.
Late apex, if not sure about corner
can you make a video on how to slow down properly when approaching a red light or a stop when you are going rather fast or just normally slowing down smoothly, i ride a 300 so i think theres more gear shifts but its probably similar
Hey geezer I like your videos but i have to ask where did you get your gloves because i need to get a pair like them that much 😅
Thor.1's from Bison got a discount code in my description as well as link to website 🙂
@@skyoom1 thanks bro I appreciate that so much
Great vid and excellent info.
Got a vid on your audio setup? It sounds great. Thanks in advance, ride safe.
Movo acm400 is all I have, works well for the price but ive had a couple times where audio will randomly die on me so may have to order another soon
@@skyoom1
Thanks for the reply. This going into a GP/w media mod or an external recorder?
@@CrustyClad oh sorry yep, gopro10 with the media mod
@@skyoom1 Many thanks. Keep the content coming.
Is it just me, or do other people notice that best riders are the ones who dont fear admitting their mistakes
That's usually the case for people who are the best at anything. You can't get better if you don't acknowledge what you're bad at.
great insights
My bike doesn’t even have inputs. It doesn’t have a screen. I don’t even think it has an hdmi port.
Are You just strictly adding more lean or counter steering?
Another thing is braking mid corner, front brakes make bike stand up and go wide, only use rear brake in corner if need to slow down while in corner
People has too much expectation with MSF course, they can only do MSF training in the Parking lot, so what you learn is just parking survival, the rest is yours to know and learn. MSF has its place for new riders.
Bro I can tell that what youre doing is scary.. But yeah it's correct reduce or maintain slow speed then add lean angle and don't oppose the lean of the bike to avoid hindsiding.
It's only scary if you don't ease into it. I think everyone rider could do it if they take their time to learn it.
Where were you a year ago? I lowsided around a curve going too fast. I had the bike pretty much all the way lent over and, following the advice given by my instructor, I just lent it over even more. Turns out bikes can't go 90 degrees lol
I researched a ton online, and everyone always says to not mess with the throttle. I had it in my head that the only thing I could do if I didn't trail brake first was to add more lean angle. Had I know that I could've just rolled off a bit, I probably wouldn't of went wide but lesson learned lol
ps. Love the content. I loved the vid you did about what a litre bike is actually like at slow speeds. I haven't seen anyone else actually explain what 1st gear actually is like on one of those. Explains a lot of videos of guys looping their bikes on takeoff
Hi Skyroom, great video of problems for new riders. I like that GSXR1000! Am undecided between a GSXR1000 and a ZX10R, do you have a preference?
First note is Gsxr1000r is worth the extra money for the suspension over the standard gsxr1000 imo.
The zx10r I'd argue is the more feature rich user friendly 1000 for the money. Bmw 2nd place. Kawi's ability to consistently make bikes with no major pros or cons is fascinating honestly.
But, and this is a big but, the gsxr has that suzuki touch, the engine is the most street friendly of any of the inline 4's with the vvt. This thing feels punchier from 3-8k rpm than any of the others by a mile. Its also weighted lower so it feels extremely light between the legs. But at a cost haha, gsxr has the worst vibration of any of them. The rsv4 is the only bike that I feel beats the gsxr in terms of street friendly low to mid range.
@@skyoom1 Great information! Much appreciated! Did not know about the midrange punch which would be key as that rev range is used all the time. Did not know that about the RSV4 too. Props!
What is the meaning behind "skyoom"?
would you use the same speed for a 300?
Yep the speeds here could be done on anything minus knobby tires
Thanks for making such practical videos. Would you be able to make one one taking a right turn (without stopping) at an intersection? I always struggle with this especially when to slow down, downshift, and feather the clutch in the turn. I have a 300cc so i am usually on 3/4 gear before approaching a right turn.
Id bet you're downshifting later than necessary and then trying to kick down gears last sec. Kick down gears the second you start to slow down and dont be worried about letting the rpm float higher. Sounds like you may be rolling through slow enough its bogging engine and youre using clutch to hide the gear being too high for the speed 🙂
@@skyoom1 Thank you so much. I am going to start practicing this now that the weather is warming up in Canada :)
Why are you so afraid of gravel? If you're going in a straight line it doesn't matter at all which speed you're taking it at. Also, why do you pull in the clutch in the hairpin turn?
Hes just being safe? You can definitely be going straight, and lose control because of accelerating over gravel or similar debris. The same way that ppl have lost control while accelerating over wet, painted areas.
Based on the quality of the roads you ride on I sometimes wonder if you live in a third world country😂 I know there are gsxr off road bikes out there but I've never seen one in a stock standard road bike frame! I'm waiting for the next video...How to race motocross with your gixer!
this might be a dumb question but how do you get up from a lean?
Not dumb at all! It requires constant pressure on the bar to keep the bike leaned over so depending on what you're doing you just remove pressure from the bar and the bike will stand up as pressure is removed. If you need to lean the other way you begin pushing with the opposite hand and adjust from there for turn/lean needs.
What are your thoughts on adding risers to the handlebars on sports bikes?
Personally id say save the money and buy a naked or standard sport and just buy some higher rearsets